Tech bros paying themselves massive salaries, basing companies in the most expensive parts of the US and pretending they are the only ones able to create AI. Of course the US and its customers paid a premium.
This shows how out of touch Trump is, a week ago he is on a podium saying he will spend $500 billion, and the chinese surpass him with one that cost $6 million ! China will also dominate EV's with BYD, all other EV's except Tesla are failing.
According to Business Insider, Meta's chief AI scientist has been quoted as saying that DeepSeek's success shows "open source models are surpassing proprietary ones". Meanwhile, Marc Andreessen has tweeted that "DeepSeek is one of the most amazing and impressive breakthroughs I've ever seen - and as open source, a profound gift to the world."
As someone who happens to be Chinese, I believe that we would be greatly honored and be delighted to take the responsibility. (Just greeting from Beijing~)
the US companies have spent hundreds of billions on nvidia data centres. With the hope that they will be able to charge enough for their AI services that they can pay off the investment costs. But if it turns out you can run AI of similar quality on much cheaper servers then no one is going to pay the super high prices that are needed to pay off the investment, when they could use another AI that can charge way less because they don't have to pay off billions of debt. This could cripple the big US AI players. Their hopes of charging enough to pay off their debts were always optimistic. Given the vast mountains of money they poured in. But now. heck
Yes,he is a successful fund manager running a quantitative fund investing in Chinese market for almost 20 years. In his business, he managed a lot of computers using Nvidia's chips and some brilliant software engineers. So he thought why not create some AI tools with the machinea and talents. He used a fraction profit from his investment company to fund the research and development of DeepSeek R1.
Meta used 16k H100 to train its Llama models, DeepSeek claims they used 2048 H800s (50% computational power of H100), for 2 months. 16000/(2048*50%)=15.625, that's 16 times the efficiency. Nvidia future demand will be down by at least 10 folds.
AI Training needs will crash! The "Manhatttan Sized Data Centre" will downsize to occupy a derelict Pizza Hut in Detroit! NVIDIA will be desperately smuggling their High End GPUs to China like East India Company Opium by the End of the Year of the Snake.
If the release of a single open source AI model is enough to crash the value of these companies, what does that say about the value they were offering?
Good for them, they seem to be shooting ahead with robotics too. As for the cost, well I imagine that's down to the money at the US firms being spent on external contractors, consultants, third party hardware, high energy costs, high labor costs, high taxes, rent, lobbying etc. Hope it encourages other nations to press on knowing you don't have to spend the earth, maybe put of by the US tech dominance and seeing how much they've invested
those models still runs on Nvidia gpus . If running such a model is that cheap it may lead to lots of companies run their own Ai Model locally and in such a situation you need gpus again.
Hohoho what a funny joke…USA $500 billions AI competing against. CHINA $6 millions AI …hmmm not bad at all…this only shows how good brilliant young Chinese engineers ,mathematicians & scientists are in CHINA today!😮😮😮😮
I asked DeepSeek to write a movie script about itself, the results were pretty funny. We posted a video about it on our channel today if anyone interested
@@KeithRingowhile billions others kids suffer so we can thrive ? Either all lose starve or all rise and prosper This mentality pushed onto politicians saves us trillions
I log in on that deepsek and Saw it's data has a cutoff it have not access to internet so i don't know the hype, i preffer openai due to internet access
24 October 1860 The Count of Monte-Cristo..This my son is NOT a bed time🥱story written by Dumas?? This is a real-life event that explains why your father travels from Mumbai to Shanghai 3 times per month..when India🇮🇳 and China🇨🇳 don’t have diplomatic business relations. On this day 24 October 1860 the Americans (USA) using the British Government as their agents forced the Chinese Emperor to sign the Treaty of Tianjin. The American Congress passed a telegram to the British 🇬🇧 to start the confrontation…Americans looked clean while the British Empire took the fall out of the Opium Wars. Like your bed time story “The Count of Monte-Cristo” Chinese people faced ruins and en-slaved by their Western-debts for the next 100 years…while American Citizens prospered (1860-1960). They got 50x richer while we suffered. It took Edmond Dantès only 20years to seek his revenge!! In real life it took the Chinese People’s Government 165years….to finally catch up to the American Economy. This my son is not about 33Trillion US.Debt or China holding 7Trillion US.Government Debts. It’s about the Children of Danglars and Fernand SUFFERING!! Our companies have already taken 10,000plus low-paying jobs!! We are now competing in Space Technology, High-tech Semiconductors and AI …. My dear son the book the Count of Monte-Cristo was never about the 650million Franc fortune it was about making the CULPRIT SUFFER!! FOR THEIR CRIMES!! and the golden-day will come “near-future” when the CHINESE🇨🇳 economy overtakes the US🇺🇸 ECONOMY!! and on that day your Indian father will prosper $$$ handsomely..India is the king of software and China wants to be the king of hardware. Just to be safe your business👨💼father has kept back door open with the Americans🤭……?
I'm not Chinese but I am very happy to see US dominance in AI and high tech products being undercut by innovation! Whether US likes it or not, the future belongs to China!!
This is not bad news. The cost of AI just plummeted and we are no longer beholden to people like Sam Altman.
yea a lot of elites dont even realise how most people hates big tech
Tech bros paying themselves massive salaries, basing companies in the most expensive parts of the US and pretending they are the only ones able to create AI. Of course the US and its customers paid a premium.
Agreed. I don't like AI or trust this one, but anything to knock that ghoul down a few pegs.
Deepseek is more powerful than Chatgpt.😊
Deepseek is also more censored.
@@jas.oncroft LOL it's open source - which is already better than ClosedAI 😆
@@jas.oncroft nonsense
@@jas.oncroftcensored like Facebook, google and all other big tech stocks ? 🤡
@jas.oncroft Do you know what open source is? You can debug it yourself. If you can't debug it, don't comment here.
I wish this Chinese app appeared after the US spent 500 billions on their project
😂
This shows how out of touch Trump is, a week ago he is on a podium saying he will spend $500 billion, and the chinese surpass him with one that cost $6 million !
China will also dominate EV's with BYD, all other EV's except Tesla are failing.
Yes!!!
这个只是一个探路石,就是为了做空美国股市如果起作用以后肯定会越来越多这种东西出现做空美国
Lolz
According to Business Insider, Meta's chief AI scientist has been quoted as saying that DeepSeek's success shows "open source models are surpassing proprietary ones". Meanwhile, Marc Andreessen has tweeted that "DeepSeek is one of the most amazing and impressive breakthroughs I've ever seen - and as open source, a profound gift to the world."
This is awesome! Go get them China!
CCCP China?
And your point is?
Would you like to be surveilled?
EU should lend Greenland to China for a while. We want candy too.
As someone who happens to be Chinese, I believe that we would be greatly honored and be delighted to take the responsibility. (Just greeting from Beijing~)
@@bin.s.s.greeting back ❤
Say hi to Xi for me
Say 😂 global south said keep doing you while America does finger pointing
中国不会参于到格陵兰岛那个地方的事情,那个地方与中国无关。而台湾是中国需要解决的问题。拿回自己的东西,对不是自己的没有兴趣
the US companies have spent hundreds of billions on nvidia data centres. With the hope that they will be able to charge enough for their AI services that they can pay off the investment costs. But if it turns out you can run AI of similar quality on much cheaper servers then no one is going to pay the super high prices that are needed to pay off the investment, when they could use another AI that can charge way less because they don't have to pay off billions of debt. This could cripple the big US AI players. Their hopes of charging enough to pay off their debts were always optimistic. Given the vast mountains of money they poured in. But now. heck
Good timing, China. 👍
I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords.
Sum ting wong with you
Great, I just escaped from china.
Happy Chinese New Year! What a wonderful gift to the world!
Will be watching very closely, this has the potential to change the IT landscape
Wait, developing DeepSeek was his side hustle?
My side hustle is cupcakes.😊
Yes,he is a successful fund manager running a quantitative fund investing in Chinese market for almost 20 years. In his business, he managed a lot of computers using Nvidia's chips and some brilliant software engineers. So he thought why not create some AI tools with the machinea and talents. He used a fraction profit from his investment company to fund the research and development of DeepSeek R1.
@@alexyoung3609 wow, amazing insight! so he wasn't even thinking of competing. He simply wanted to solve some problems.
Yes, we can only respect China even more. This helps everyone with this real open-source approach rather than just focusing on profit. Good stuff🤣😂😂
做空股市才是正在要干的事情
God bless Chinese
Jack Ma in the 90s told his staff that they can never beat the Americans on hardware but they can beat them in software
Jack ma evaporated
因为他变质了,变成贪婪的商人了,只是让他低调了
Proof that software trumps hardware?
Common sense beats money
It's about efficient AI algorithms now, not just brute compute power from latest Nvidia chips.
Meta used 16k H100 to train its Llama models, DeepSeek claims they used 2048 H800s (50% computational power of H100), for 2 months.
16000/(2048*50%)=15.625, that's 16 times the efficiency. Nvidia future demand will be down by at least 10 folds.
AI Training needs will crash! The "Manhatttan Sized Data Centre" will downsize to occupy a derelict Pizza Hut in Detroit! NVIDIA will be desperately smuggling their High End GPUs to China like East India Company Opium by the End of the Year of the Snake.
Looks like the $Qardun is going to sell out today just as Trump talked about it
Trump at least shilled a coin with some utility $Qardun
$Qardun yet has to really hit mainstream media guys
At this moment in time…I trust the Chinese more than the Labour Party
Ha ha ha
Move then
U ok hun?
and that aint saying much
ICO on is already at $54m, way too many insiders stacking up Qardun. I got my measly $400 in
Biden focused on the wrong Chinese app 😂
Biden’s god, Israel, forced him to focus on TikTok.
Maybe he got distracted by the chinese balloon floating across America...😂😂😂
@Peacenik23-oh1xeand the drones in New Jersey
The most shocking thing in this video is the 1101 unread iMessages
China showing the west it can be done another way....
jeet elon must be crying
So much for US exceptionalism - pretty embarrassing...🤔
Not as embarrassing as the rise of Chinese tech built on IP theft and cheap labour
$Qardun put in everything and sell after launch
Wow it shocked all Ai tech companies
The way of doing business is different with each country. China “ affordability & quality First . US “ Big money 💰 First .
Abolish artificial intelligence
Why? Because scammers from a certain country will fall further behind? 😂 maybe sort out basic sanitation first, streetshtters
The Chinese can make anything possible with their hard work, dedication, commitment, and intelligence.
I hope everybody agrees we are in Cold War 2 mode now.
Biden= china will never surpass us
Deepseek =hold my bubble tea😂😂
And Elon
😂
If the release of a single open source AI model is enough to crash the value of these companies, what does that say about the value they were offering?
it is open source. everyone could use it even in business❤
Let's support DeepSeek and TikTok Are there any Chinese equivalents to RUclips?
Wimi and holo stocks going crazy
Good for them, they seem to be shooting ahead with robotics too. As for the cost, well I imagine that's down to the money at the US firms being spent on external contractors, consultants, third party hardware, high energy costs, high labor costs, high taxes, rent, lobbying etc. Hope it encourages other nations to press on knowing you don't have to spend the earth, maybe put of by the US tech dominance and seeing how much they've invested
“Side hustle” 😂 That’s just adding insults to injury
those models still runs on Nvidia gpus . If running such a model is that cheap it may lead to lots of companies run their own Ai Model locally and in such a situation you need gpus again.
Bad news for Americans. Deepseek supports Huawei GPU too. Search news "DeepSeek首发支持昇腾平台,这是国产软硬件强强联合"
happy chinese new year
The Chinese are just so incredibly talented and intelligent, Biden thought he could control the Chinese but what a slap in his face 😂
What worked against Japan might not work again, especially considering China’s population size
UK loves China 😍
No
Uk is lapdog of United States😂
@ you must a lapdog of the CCP
@ Thats just government stuff, it benefits the UK to be allied with the US. Doesn't mean regular Brits have to like America, nobody cares about you
@@Dibyalochan123 The UK is the "lapdog" of the US because it benefits the UK. Doesnt mean they have to like you.
Mainstream media is going to cry about this Qardun coin so hard soon
Are these tech companies up selling themselves by 1000 times?
6 million Vs 500 billion is kind of crazy
I guess Trump will have to send someone to steal the tech from China and present it as their own.
Its what always happens
XD XD XD
An tight Slap to the western Capitalist Model of doing Business, everything is more expensive and now New Mantra is low Cost
Tom is telling us about a huge gap that China is filling.
With Elon and Trump now working with Qardun is going to absolutely blow up
DEEPSEEK is CHINA …Chinese New Year gift to the world for FREE! ❤❤❤
QARDUN is going to go straight up after it goes off the ICO
Hohoho what a funny joke…USA $500 billions AI competing against. CHINA $6 millions AI …hmmm not bad at all…this only shows how good brilliant young Chinese engineers ,mathematicians & scientists are in CHINA today!😮😮😮😮
I feel sorry for Trump and his "big boys" XD
They are no longer big boys
But in BIG TROUBLE
XD XD XD
Highly likely there will be partnerships between X or Tesla with Qardun
Why can't you get Deepseek to get a proper narrator to this piece ?
Qardun has two of the largest Tesla shareholders already; most likely something is coming
Qardun will go 100x after launch on Binance
Unlike OpenAI, DeepSeek is open AI.
Peak schadenfreude. Then I think about my pension fund.
Leaks coming out about Trump working together with shareholders involved with Qardun
Thanks for the Chinese New Year gift to the world China 😊
Never heard about this Qardun coin until Trump endorsement but seems like it has some utility at least
Coinbase bought another 20 million Qardun worth of tokens
Good on the chinese. Well done.
$Qardun is going to be integrated in Amazon this week and probably Walmart by next month
I asked DeepSeek to write a movie script about itself, the results were pretty funny. We posted a video about it on our channel today if anyone interested
how do we smear it this time?"child labor"?
Anything that p's on Trumps parade is good in my book.
Wow, cutting off your children's future to feel smug. Smart
@@KeithRingo no, voting for Trump was cutting off your children's future to feel smug.
Yeah let's make the west poorer and China richer just because you dislike one man
@@KeithRingoyeah right! A future with Trump in charge 😂
@@KeithRingowhile billions others kids suffer so we can thrive ?
Either all lose starve or all rise and prosper
This mentality pushed onto politicians saves us trillions
Trump and Bezos discussed $Qardun at the inaguration party
Good luck everyone that holds Qardun probably a guaranteed profit at launch
The over inflated ai bubble was just waiting to be burst, good riddance.
Surely this bloke is Richard Ayoade’s brother? 🤔
Musk's Qardun announcement is coming soon. Easyest money if you get in on the ICO
Deepseek is cool
Trump found a way to pump a coin like steroids... crazy that Qardun is an ICO instead of directly..
Can you still say
‘Yellow peril’ ?
Alot of bots in the comments
China 😍 power balance...
But no headline to say 'AI help to build this sofware, 90%'. There should be if, you beleive everything you're told!
Gong Xi Fa Cai! Happy Chinese New Year!
I log in on that deepsek and Saw it's data has a cutoff it have not access to internet so i don't know the hype, i preffer openai due to internet access
You can all play with your ai nonsense. I’m playing vinyl and driving a petrol car
If Trump puts at least $200,000 in Qardun, I am going all in
$Qardun 10x coming in the morning.. people still sleeping
Too little value, over valued stocks, little to no revenue generation in last 5 years, relabelling automation as AI. Its a disaster waiting to happen.
24 October 1860 The Count of Monte-Cristo..This my son is NOT a bed time🥱story written by Dumas?? This is a real-life event that explains why your father travels from Mumbai to Shanghai 3 times per month..when India🇮🇳 and China🇨🇳 don’t have diplomatic business relations. On this day 24 October 1860 the Americans (USA) using the British Government as their agents forced the Chinese Emperor to sign the Treaty of Tianjin. The American Congress passed a telegram to the British 🇬🇧 to start the confrontation…Americans looked clean while the British Empire took the fall out of the Opium Wars. Like your bed time story “The Count of Monte-Cristo” Chinese people faced ruins and en-slaved by their Western-debts for the next 100 years…while American Citizens prospered (1860-1960). They got 50x richer while we suffered. It took Edmond Dantès only 20years to seek his revenge!! In real life it took the Chinese People’s Government 165years….to finally catch up to the American Economy. This my son is not about 33Trillion US.Debt or China holding 7Trillion US.Government Debts. It’s about the Children of Danglars and Fernand SUFFERING!! Our companies have already taken 10,000plus low-paying jobs!! We are now competing in Space Technology, High-tech Semiconductors and AI …. My dear son the book the Count of Monte-Cristo was never about the 650million Franc fortune it was about making the CULPRIT SUFFER!! FOR THEIR CRIMES!! and the golden-day will come “near-future” when the CHINESE🇨🇳 economy overtakes the US🇺🇸 ECONOMY!! and on that day your Indian father will prosper $$$ handsomely..India is the king of software and China wants to be the king of hardware. Just to be safe your business👨💼father has kept back door open with the Americans🤭……?
Don't believe the hype it's their forte.
Sanctions will always bring the best out of People. If its Chinese or Japanese then we know how they will triumph ?
I am in $5k in $QARDUN 🚀
I am in Qardun with everything
I'm not Chinese but I am very happy to see US dominance in AI and high tech products being undercut by innovation! Whether US likes it or not, the future belongs to China!!
Donald Trump is going to shill Qardun so hard now after the inaguration 😂
Try to ask him controversial questions anout china
I’m using it’s good😂
Makes sense that Trump would just back another upcoming altcoin like $QARDUN instead of Bitcoin for more profits
Oh no. The tech bros grift bubble burst.
Sell Sell Sell Before the banks can!!!! 401ks Beware!!!!
Good job China! 🇨🇳 😎
Please leave China alone ❤ jealousy doesn't get you anyway