Trailering Mishap: Bias Ply Or Radials? A Tale Of Two Tires
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- I share my experience of losing a tire while trailering. Discuss my needs for hauling a John Deere 1025R. Tell you what tires I decided to invest in and lessons learned.
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Just needs a patch, lol.
Radials are over rated , if your're not driving insane speeds . As a 90 year old retired from the trucking industry , but still persuing the truck hobby, I've had good luck with bias , running lower pressures for ride quality and usually no load . And when a bias fails, it won't demolish your vehicle, fenders, mud flap brackets and full wheel well on my travel trailer . Yes I drank the radial "cool aid" when radials came on board in the '80s, but I also paid the price with destruction . The steel radial plies rust and fail .
When your axles are front to back they are called tandem axles. When you tires are side by side they are called duals or a dually. You have a single tire tandem axle trailer
Yeah bias tires can’t have low pressure make sure there full. Mine has bias tires they handle more weight.
Guys....just saying I'm not downing radial tires for cross country runs but if you keep the air pressure correct in a bias ply tire just as said you will find they are NOT junk! Bias tires have stronger sidewalls ...carry more weight and one thing most people don't want to talk about is bias tires will save on gas or fuel mileage. Yes they will save you on fuel mileage because there's less friction rolling with bias tires than radials. Radials put more drag on the trailer. They roll softer which in turn causes drag just as if you had a slight brake dragging. Most tire dealers won't tell that part because they want to sell the higher priced radials and make more money. Ask around and you'll find what I'm saying is in fact true. I've been pulling trailers for 40 years and have learned a few things. Also ask any drag racer if they run radials on the front tires.....Answer is NO....Same as running with the brakes on ! Nice info Video Sir Keep up the good work !!!
You should add a wood 8x8 wedge for easy tire change out, just roll over the good tire over the wedge and that elevates the flat tire for easy changing.
Whoa! I never would have thought of that! What a great idea! Seriously, thanks for posting this! 👍😎
Never too old to learn lessons in life
You know, Harbor Freight has tire covers, they come in a pack of 4. Worth it to help keep sun off tires, I’ve always kept a set on mine.
Just subscribed! I appreciate you for sharing this story as I was looking at the differences between Bias-Ply and Radial for my 2 trailers…Ill keep my Bias-Ply for spares but definitely the Radials for the on-road ones as I travel long distances with not so heavy loads
I didn't own a trailer yet and I had to grab my stepson with his broken down car from Ohio and bring them back to CT. I got my trailer from a place in Carlisle, PA when I was on my way to OH. It came with radial tires and a few other things that I was looking for in a car hauler. I am sooo glad that I didn't have any tire issues. I did purchase a spare with the trailer (just in case).
I am glad to hear that your adventure ended up working out well. We all learned a lesson from your experience. The tire should have lasted more than 2000 miles. I hope the radials will give you many years of usage. By the way, thanks for the tips on what you have in the trailer box. I need to purchase a few items.
Nice title: A tale of two tires and I am sure that a little patch could have fixed it lol
You got a very calm demeanor and voice. I could listen to you narrate a story about paint drying😊
I plan to replace mine with light truck tires as in LT235-75-16 like a pickup uses. My F250 weighs 8500lbs empty and I got 50K miles out of a set, to me there is no reason to buy a tire marketed as a trailer tire for the loads most folks are pulling. The high end campers and 5th wheels are now offering light truck tires as a premium upgrade option from the factory.
It's not all about the weight rating. Actual trailer tires have much stiffer sidewalls and will handle / drive /pull better if your hauling heavy on curvy worn out roads that have a lot of swagging places in them. But yes LT tires have a bigger contact patch which usually last a lot longer as far as tread wear goes
Dude, you been driving around without a spare???.....lol. Nah, I'd probably be that trustworthy too if I didn't watch these videos about trailers first too! Out of all the videos I've seen, yours was the most informational about the tires. And the story with the flat tire on the trailer really got me thinking about replacing the ply's that are on my trailer now, which I'm glad that you've helped me change my mind. Your laid back story telling with the messages on there (should have got a bottle jack) had me cracking up. This was a great video and thanks for sharing. 👍😎 A+
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Your DJI Mic link in description doesn't go anywhere for me. Not sure if its bad but the others seem to work.
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Good information for anyone with a trailer. I have many trailers and some misadventures in my 76 years. If it can happen it will, eventually. I carry so much “stuff” it makes Boy Scouts look unprepared. Decades in the Army made a believer. Our motto was “if your attack is going as planned, you’ve just walked into an ambush”! Again, good info.
Brand and age is not a big deal? It doesnt matter if one axle os Goodyear made this year and the one axle is Kendas or whatever from two years ago. As long as you know what you have and their age and condition. Dont over think it. Id not be afraid to run one sidebbias and one side radial as you see nothing happens in reality. Be smart know what you have what your doing and the limits.
Well inconvenient but no incident which is the important part. Your supposed to rotate trailer tires just like on a car as well. You're doing the other important things keeping it out of the Sun and weight off of it. They are some tire changing ramp that they sell and you just drive over the lift the tire. I am going to buy one for my trailer. I can see the benefit especially when you have it loaded and you're trying to jack it up on a side oven uneven road. You may want to check that out.
Probably should have selected Help is on it's Way rather than Lonesome Loser. 😂
I run radials, cover them when I’m not towing, check tire pressure every trip etc. I’ve had failures with tires in the 5-6 year old range. US DOT recommends replacing trailer tires that are over 5 years from manufacture date. Now I replace them at the 5 year mark.
i always thought the bias play at least 10 ply tires where better hell ive had some 20 years old still rolling down the road
Good video Glad everything worked out! How do you like new tires? I just ordered those exact same tires!
I was waiting for this one. I knew you would have a thorough analysis. Good to hear you upgraded all around. One thing a lot of people neglect on a tandem axil is making it level.
Long before I was a trailer nerd, I was a tire nerd. I bought a new 78 4x4 3/4 ton pickup and immediately lifted it and put on big tires. I weight each corner and adjusted tire pressure accordingly.
I always carry a spare. Unless I am not. Ha! Sometimes it happens. Thanks for a good reminder DK
I wonder if when you spun the trailer around at the bottom of your driveway at camp it either cut the tire on something or pulled the tire away from the rim letting just enough air out that it caused an issue.
What an experience. I had a similar one. Hopefully we can all learn the lessons. Thank you for sharing.
I say Bias for spare radial for running tires
Got a spare after watching this video
Looks like your in real hot weather !
Good video, thanks for sharing.
Tire food jar,haha
$1,800? I don't even think I can build one for that price. How was that possible. I just spent $4,000 on a 7x14 aluminum😅😅😅
you can buy them all day long for 1800 but that trailer he has more like 2500 or so
because its just a 5 lug anyhow so rated for 7k ish he almost has it maxed out in my opinion probably should opt for 6-8 lug flatbed instead
What kind of phone holder is that on your desk? Looks interesting. Also, very surprised to see only the rear axle with brakes. I thought both axles needed brakes if tandem, but maybe not. Regardless it's a sure way to keep the cost down on a economy trailer. Good vid and thanks for sharing.
I think since the trailer is rated for 7000 pounds brakes on one axle will suffice. If it had double the capacity with 7000 pound per axles, both should have brakes. The phone stand has been redesigned: Licheers Cell Phone Stand, Angle Height Adjustable Phone Stand Holder for Desk (Black-LC352) a.co/d/g03HrD8
@@ataleofthreecabins1025 Thanks for the reply!
Awesome video.
If you had to purchase a new trailer, would you still go with something similar, or perhaps something higher quality?
This one works for our needs. Even if we went to a 2 series or a 3025e one day.
@@ataleofthreecabins1025 gotcha. I only ask because I'm in a similar boat, and I do like the price point of the cheaper wholesale trailers. I'm tempted to go with a heavier duty equipment hauler though for piece of mind.
I have a car trailer that I got 9yrs out of a set of radial tires. I replaced them with bias ply tires and only got 1.5yrs out of them. I went back to radial after that. Brand dosnt really matter I have found. I live in the northeast and trailer sat in the shade.
One thing I can say is when I put bias ply tires on they wore very very odd and I found out that the spring hangers where welded on this trailer not streight. At this point I had put thousands of miles across 10yrs. I think the bias ply tires are just softer.
Also I have only ever had one flat trailer tire, because i carry a spare. But i also check my tires every trip. I have found and repaired leaks that would have caused a blow out like you have. None of those leaky tires where taken out of service. They just got a plug and aired back up.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree that radials are the way to go, unless you’re only using them around the farm w/ an occasional trip to town. I always carry a bottle jack. It never hurts to have it. I made a rectangular base for mine from 3 pieces of 3/4” ply so that the jack is more stable. I used a router to recess the jack ~1/2” into the ply, then bolted the jack to the ply. If i was to do it again, I would have cut the top (of 3) layer of ply w/ a jig saw before gluing & screwing the sheets together. Glad you mentioned torquing your trailer wheel lug nuts, especially since you don’t use it often. Always good to do the same w/ your tractor wheels. I recommend you check the torque on your tractor wheels EVERY time before using it.
Bias tires are junk.. no wonder radials came about. They run smoother, cooler and don't fly apart. Any new trailer, people should take the bias plys off and put Radials on.