As a former law student, just like you, I also immediately registered the dishonesty and the financial gain/loss as it’s required by the Fraud Act 2006. But I’m also aware now, after experiencing the system, the Police, CPS and authorities that it’s not something that will ever be held against the local authority or people being involved.
Sorry mate, you are not born free, quite the contrary, you are subjects and by law inferior to your ruling class. You have no Constitution to protect you. From forcefully moving you to the cities during the industrial revolution to still making you pay land lease, your history is just a long row of abuse by your aristocrats. And yet you love it, and take it with you wherever you go--see Canada, Australia, etc.
It's malfeasance in a public office..... If only we had a justice system... Instead we have an injustice system and police that actually protect criminals (government and all their agents)
Money going back into the councilors bank accounts. That's why they sub contract out instead of doing work by the council themselves....they are robbing everyone.
Staff went up as did the golden package of a lifetime worths savings, I've probably heard wrong but some get 190,000.00😅 may be fair for the few outstanding but for the bad apples
You may be referring to proper services and services that would benefit most taxpayers. Meanwhile, there are costly services that do nothing for most, but benefit a select few, including the subcontractors, management and those who we cannot mention here.
When the trough is empty they go (rogue) hungry. All local authorities need audits, all of them. They are all dishonest and so are all their contractors. R.
Because I'm finding out council tax doesn't go to public services it goes straight to the treasury and that why they quick enough to collect it 2:41 and you get threatening letters if you go in arrears like I had . So I'm wondering if local authorities get penalty fines from central government .for not collecting a certain sum of money
That is shocking, especially considering the poor services and the fact that the salary is gross, so it’s still subject to tax, while the council tax is what’s coming out of the taxed income.
What I don't understand is why the people who live in the roads of LTN don't remove them themselves. Every person in the road all together to remove these things? What they going to do take you all to court? I know that councils love to take people to court but imagine if every LTN was removed on the same day by the people who actually live there. What are they going to do?
Councils HIRE THE COURT ROOMS. they're not real courts. They're fraudulent as fk. If you get a council court invite (summons) ring the court and ask for all the details....... They'll not know anything about any court summons in your name...
Wait until someone dies because an ambulance or fire engine can't access an LTN. then the stuff is going to hit the fan, and Mr money grabbing councillor is going to need a very good explanation.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yes that's right just blindly "vote" for your next slave master thinking there's a saviour in a different colour tie.... Spoiler alert.... There isn't.. Government and Politics IS OUR PROBLEM. always has been always will be.
We got rid of the responsible government, now Croydon need to get rid of the Tory mayor that put this in place. Reform would do nothing because Frogface will be up Trumps arse on the second shelf.
These types of blockades are illegal anyway because they’re a major health and safety risk that can lead to the loss of life. To be honest I’ve got no idea how it wasn’t challenged before. For example what happens if someone at the end of one of these blocked roads is having a heart attack? The ambulance would need to pull up and the paramedics would need to run all the way up the road wasting time or as I’ve been told they can get out and remove the blocks and then drive through…but has spoken to the union looking after ambulance stance about that? When did removing these obstacles become part of their job. What happens if in the process of doing this the ambulance stance hurt themselves? lol What about if there’s a fire? Game over for your house then lol It’s so weird that this was allowed to happen.
Not so much when you observe the level of 'competance' (for which read incompetance) of the people employed both by Local Councils and our National Government !
At what point do you think they give a shit about their slaves??? The 15 minute rabbit hutches they're herding us into is by design.. and they not only couldn't give a shit if the rabbits die.. they seem to be actively trying to kill lots of the rabbits (3 dart finish being the obvious one) I'd only the peasants would stop giving authority to criminals (government and their agents) But the gullible will continue to "vote" thinking there's a saviour in a different colour tie... Spoiler alert.... There isn't
I wonder what might happen if all the affecting residents put in a claim for a partial refund on their vehicles road tax and extra fuel consumption directly to the council if that might give the council second thoughts?
Because 7 out of 10 houses are being built for none British citizen and there will be no rent no council tax bugger all while we have to pay in full and next year a sharp rise to pay for administration services ( you watch )
And you wonder why the councils like Birmingham are bankruptcy ALLMOST no money coming in from none British people and Birmingham council having to find more accommodation for our long term holiday makers!!!!
Lambeth Council is another! Accountability is required so it will be easy to sue council officials for those who break regulations and laws of the land! Motorists are targeted and then harassed & intimidated by bailiffs! 😢
The LTN in Exeter didn't last long. Main routes were clogging up, causing extra mileage for locals. Emergency vehicles were delayed as they had to divert around the LTN's plus taxi drivers were worried adding extra fares.
What do we actually get from our councils? Almost every year, council tax rises above inflation, yet we get fewer refuse collections than we used to, we have to pay for anything above bin collections to be taken away; public libraries are closing wherever they can get away with it; there are fewer and fewer, but larger schools, forcing people to travel further; there are fewer and fewer sports centres and swimming pools; and lastly, the roads are completed f****d.
Even if the British Council were caught teaching the King to swear in Cockney rhyming slang, they'd probably just get a slap on the wrist and a polite 'tut-tut' over tea
Imagine you lived next to the these boxes, you just want go to another side, usually take 5 seconds, now you have to take 5 minutes, so every car spend 5 minutes extra on the road, how do you help the traffic?
May I ask what they are doing with the revenue from said fines? Is it planting trees perhaps? Is it subsidising Greener vehicles? Perhaps more buses you say? Hmmm none of the above I’m sure. It’s pocketed.
£98 rates on my first council house in 1986, just before poll tax, and just under £2k now, a 20x increase while my wages have gone up 5x. According to the ONS "A pound today only buys 27.231% of what it could buy back then[1986].", which is an interesting statistic I think. My GB pound has devalued, my wages haven't kept up with inflation and my bills have increased in a way that defies gravity.
It's easy spending other people's money it seems. We are millions, they are few. If they're supposed to work 'for you' but continue to work against you, then they need throwing out.
In my area they should focus on fly tipping, anti social behaviour and crime in general. The sheeps in my borough voted labour in who already inposed LTNs. LTNs just increase pollution as it concentrates cars on a main road and increase traffic. As someone said id like to see what happens when a emergency vehicle fails to get to a LTN area on time
Regrettably it's all our own fault, only about a third of people vote in local council elections which gives them carte blanche to do whatever they want. Want these clowns gone? Get off your arse and vote next May.
Croydon Council has in the past couple of years forced through planning permission for multiple occupancy buildings on sites where detached and semi-detached houses once stood. All in the name of diversity, and increasing their revenue from Council Tax. It's a socialist council.
the cash srapped sheffield council has just spent £470000000 on scewing up the city centre now they are on about spending anther £23.5 million doing the same to attercliffe and Darnall
As much as i'd like this council to get cut down to size and pay up, it ain't gonna happen. Nothing will come of this, watch. And as for the 'future income' bit, all councils and TFL factor in fines and penalties in their future income forecasts. It's devious, it's nasty, it's underhand and should be illegal. But it won't change, it never does.
dont agree with emission zones at all , why has a guy sitting behind a desk ( who definatly doesnt understand an ICE ) told me I cant drive my perfectly legal car , which has passed all the relavent Vehicle Operating Standards Agency requirments down certain selected roads without paying them ? For What ? Wheres the money going ? apart from to fund themselves ? they could use the money to buy everyone a newer car ! But more emmisions is produced manufacturing the car than it produces , no logic there then !!
Their supposed to represent the public, when are the people ever consulted, never. I've been on this planet 76 years and never been asked once about anything that concerns me and the rest of joe public. Democracy my arse
The zones are not about the environment, they about reducing traffic on residential streets so the space can be used by people who live there. Ones around me tend to be used for street parties and local BBQs in the summer, kids will often play in the street now it's safe too which is nice. Brings back the old community feel i grew up with
Let’s see. A to B is the shortest route. Then the direct route is blocked. So now you go a longer route, A to C to B. Does that seem like a lower emission plan to you? It was never about emissions.
We don't have LTNs in my country. How are the LTN road blocks configured? Specifically, can one drive in from one end of the road but not the other, or are both ends blocked?
Or maybe the idea is to go back to horse and cart and yes 20 million pounds talk about being a cash cow so much to say about the environment then isn't it I think most of us had a good idea that this was the case make people with cars pay this money they forget sometimes that some of us do need our cars to get to work I suppose if we all get on our push bikes and use them they'll think of a way of charging for using them the whole thing is a big scam anyway 🤔😮
How much money did the council spend on decorating every office and government building with Ukrainian flags and LBQT+Flags ? (+ is minor attracted BTW)
And the rest is more like £50,000 plus consultant fees, lamps, signage, new cameras, maintenance etc etc! Do not forget to change a bulb by the council may well cost £500! 😂
well it would seem that the reasonable thing to do would be to start taking the council to court for damages brought by potholes to cars theyve got the cash now so the potholes should be getting fixed and if not then they should be fixing the cars afterall how many times have the council said "we did it to prevent liability and getting sued" well you didnt fix the potholes to avoid getting sued so now were suing you
The issue with taking Councils to court is that any judgement, that imposes a fine on the council, will come from tax payer money. Therefore, they do not care about being fined as they themselves, as individuals, are safe from the penalty. Fines against Councils, and those making the decisions, should be held against those personally responsible, and taken from their own personal assets. Maybe then they will start to think twice about doing it again.
Never Mind The Bollards! :D
Love it.... Sucks Pistols.
Here's the Sex Pistols?
It's fraud. Jail those council officers and councillors.
all of them.
As a former law student, just like you, I also immediately registered the dishonesty and the financial gain/loss as it’s required by the Fraud Act 2006. But I’m also aware now, after experiencing the system, the Police, CPS and authorities that it’s not something that will ever be held against the local authority or people being involved.
Born free taxed to death.
My old mam used to say this
Sorry mate, you are not born free, quite the contrary, you are subjects and by law inferior to your ruling class. You have no Constitution to protect you. From forcefully moving you to the cities during the industrial revolution to still making you pay land lease, your history is just a long row of abuse by your aristocrats. And yet you love it, and take it with you wherever you go--see Canada, Australia, etc.
Your not free mate never were never will be.
the council going against 95% of the residents wishes. this should be illegal.
It's malfeasance in a public office..... If only we had a justice system... Instead we have an injustice system and police that actually protect criminals (government and all their agents)
My council tax has gone up 90% in twenty years ..and services have been reduced ..
Money going back into the councilors bank accounts.
That's why they sub contract out instead of doing work by the council themselves....they are robbing everyone.
Staff went up as did the golden package of a lifetime worths savings, I've probably heard wrong but some get 190,000.00😅 may be fair for the few outstanding but for the bad apples
You may be referring to proper services and services that would benefit most taxpayers. Meanwhile, there are costly services that do nothing for most, but benefit a select few, including the subcontractors, management and those who we cannot mention here.
YUP, services HAVE been continually cut......BUT councils continue to 'recruit' jobsworths on salaries of £200k each!!!
Why are all the councils cash strapped? They all need auditing immediately.
When the trough is empty they
go (rogue) hungry. All local
authorities need audits, all of
them. They are all dishonest
and so are all their contractors.
R.
Final salary pensions for the council parasites 🤔
Because I'm finding out council tax doesn't go to public services it goes straight to the treasury and that why they quick enough to collect it 2:41 and you get threatening letters if you go in arrears like I had . So I'm wondering if local authorities get penalty fines from central government .for not collecting a certain sum of money
One big reason now is the cost of temporary accommodation rented from the private sector. And guess who is getting that housing?
It's like I have always said your council tax
(property tax)
keeps going up, but services keep going down
❤ from teesside 🏴
Not to mention the many emergency vehicles these road blocks have held up putting peoples lives in danger.
Where is the accountability for the council wasting money!
Walking cash machines for the elites.
it was always about money and control. the environment was just the excuse.
truth
Bingo
no such thing as climate change, sea levels haven't risen in centuries, any old postcard will prove that
york council sees motorists as mobile ATM machines
@@chriswasniowski3149 they are all heading that way Glasgow city council are a nightmare.
If the council can't balance their books that's their business, not ours🤦♂
Exactly, we the people aren't responsible for their mismanagement!
@@techjunkie68smusicandtech56 No, but we are the ones who always end up paying for it.
Stop paying it.
They should make up the difference out of their large salaries.
It is our business - it's our money they're wasting or haven't you realised that yet ! ?
Rates (old council tax) when i got my first house £102 a year and my wages were £5500. Council tax now £2105 my wages now £21k
That is shocking, especially considering the poor services and the fact that the salary is gross, so it’s still subject to tax, while the council tax is what’s coming out of the taxed income.
Blocking roads makes other roads Rat runs, traffic should freely flow in all directions.
A local council acting like highwaymen? Who would have thought...
Dick Turpin was more honourable!
Stand and deliver.
What I don't understand is why the people who live in the roads of LTN don't remove them themselves. Every person in the road all together to remove these things? What they going to do take you all to court? I know that councils love to take people to court but imagine if every LTN was removed on the same day by the people who actually live there. What are they going to do?
Same with the ULEZ cameras. That's a shed load of money for nothing! They're just taxing us all to death!
They will do nothing to the people, but will reinstall the bollards etc.
Councils HIRE THE COURT ROOMS. they're not real courts. They're fraudulent as fk. If you get a council court invite (summons) ring the court and ask for all the details....... They'll not know anything about any court summons in your name...
Wait until someone dies because an ambulance or fire engine can't access an LTN.
then the stuff is going to hit the fan, and Mr money grabbing councillor is going to need a very good explanation.
Mr Money Grabber will blame the people as usual, and the people will accept it as usual
Because accepting and asking for more is all they can reason to do.
Already happened.
Let's hope it's mister money grabber who needs the ambulance
Let's hope it's mister money grabber who needs the ambulance
Vote Reform and Clear the
Swamps.
FARAGE is Establishment - WAKE UP !!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yes that's right just blindly "vote" for your next slave master thinking there's a saviour in a different colour tie.... Spoiler alert.... There isn't..
Government and Politics IS OUR PROBLEM. always has been always will be.
We got rid of the responsible government, now Croydon need to get rid of the Tory mayor that put this in place. Reform would do nothing because Frogface will be up Trumps arse on the second shelf.
They'd be no different.
@@shh_you_are_wrongSays the Laborious HQ Employee.
Common in Oxford I must say.
Causes more congestion, more emissions, more angry drivers and more busy roads. No benefits to these existing at all.
Enough is Enough, 🤬🤬🤬.
These types of blockades are illegal anyway because they’re a major health and safety risk that can lead to the loss of life. To be honest I’ve got no idea how it wasn’t challenged before.
For example what happens if someone at the end of one of these blocked roads is having a heart attack? The ambulance would need to pull up and the paramedics would need to run all the way up the road wasting time or as I’ve been told they can get out and remove the blocks and then drive through…but has spoken to the union looking after ambulance stance about that? When did removing these obstacles become part of their job. What happens if in the process of doing this the ambulance stance hurt themselves? lol
What about if there’s a fire? Game over for your house then lol
It’s so weird that this was allowed to happen.
Not so much when you observe the level of 'competance' (for which read incompetance) of the people employed both by Local Councils and our National Government !
At what point do you think they give a shit about their slaves???
The 15 minute rabbit hutches they're herding us into is by design.. and they not only couldn't give a shit if the rabbits die.. they seem to be actively trying to kill lots of the rabbits (3 dart finish being the obvious one)
I'd only the peasants would stop giving authority to criminals (government and their agents)
But the gullible will continue to "vote" thinking there's a saviour in a different colour tie... Spoiler alert.... There isn't
Closing secondary routes making sure you drive in front of the miles counter tax cams,
That's the green they are talking about.
High way robbery
They have been removed in Exeter.....totally pointless....
More money less work
I wonder what might happen if all the affecting residents put in a claim for a partial refund on their vehicles road tax and extra fuel consumption directly to the council if that might give the council second thoughts?
It should be mandatory that all local authorities must publish an impact statement about any proposed road and traffic plans before implementation.
Because 7 out of 10 houses are being built for none British citizen and there will be no rent no council tax bugger all while we have to pay in full and next year a sharp rise to pay for administration services ( you watch )
And you wonder why the councils like Birmingham are bankruptcy ALLMOST no money coming in from none British people and Birmingham council having to find more accommodation for our long term holiday makers!!!!
Hope every council thats implemented this stupid cash grab idea gets taken to court and the 💩-weasels that introduced it gets the boot 😡
criminal intent without justified reasoning by councils run by criminals who should be removed for abuse of powers ,
Lambeth Council is another! Accountability is required so it will be easy to sue council officials for those who break regulations and laws of the land! Motorists are targeted and then harassed & intimidated by bailiffs! 😢
So denying people direct access to their homes because they will generate future income of £20 millions hmm.
Council elections coming up, vote Reform!
It should be an interesting few years Mate
The LTN in Exeter didn't last long. Main routes were clogging up, causing extra mileage for locals. Emergency vehicles were delayed as they had to divert around the LTN's plus taxi drivers were worried adding extra fares.
What do we actually get from our councils? Almost every year, council tax rises above inflation, yet we get fewer refuse collections than we used to, we have to pay for anything above bin collections to be taken away; public libraries are closing wherever they can get away with it; there are fewer and fewer, but larger schools, forcing people to travel further; there are fewer and fewer sports centres and swimming pools; and lastly, the roads are completed f****d.
Counting chickens before they hatch.
They shouldn't be allowed to shut our roads that we need to use
Croydon.....say no more
Terrible, deliberately ugly, mega-diverse place.
They make pollution worse because a 5 minute journey becomes a 15 minute one.
Council tax.
A tax paid in return for
Zero services.
They will be low traffic... when we are all so poor that we cant afford to run a car.
We barely have street lights anymore what the hell are the councils doing with this money?
100%
It gets proper dark on some of the roads by me
All councils aren’t fit for purpose and exist for free money and control. Just another parasite on the producers and creators in this country.
Even if the British Council were caught teaching the King to swear in Cockney rhyming slang, they'd probably just get a slap on the wrist and a polite 'tut-tut' over tea
Imagine you lived next to the these boxes, you just want go to another side, usually take 5 seconds, now you have to take 5 minutes, so every car spend 5 minutes extra on the road, how do you help the traffic?
If these barriers where in my neighbourhood they would be wrenched out- broken up - roads are for cars with engines non of your EV nonsense
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
VOTE REFORM AT ANY AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY. WHETHER YOU LIKE THAT IDEA OR NOT, IT WILL BE YOUR LAST CHANCE TO SAVE YOUR COUNTRY!
May I ask what they are doing with the revenue from said fines? Is it planting trees perhaps? Is it subsidising Greener vehicles? Perhaps more buses you say? Hmmm none of the above I’m sure. It’s pocketed.
All the extra money is used to top up there inflated pensions that they do not deserve.
Needs to come out of their pension
Common purpose running councils .
We’ve had your crap, councils & gov.
Shove it right up your ‘arrises 🤩🤩🤩🤔👊🏻
So let me get this right. You have to pay a tax to use these roads?
People should just remove those blocks…
Scandalous.
No cameras = no fines!
Legalised mugging😡At least Dick Turpin wore a mask when robbing🤬
Drain the swamp
£98 rates on my first council house in 1986, just before poll tax, and just under £2k now, a 20x increase while my wages have gone up 5x. According to the ONS "A pound today only buys 27.231% of what it could buy back then[1986].", which is an interesting statistic I think. My GB pound has devalued, my wages haven't kept up with inflation and my bills have increased in a way that defies gravity.
They just make up the rules as they go along.
It's easy spending other people's money it seems.
We are millions, they are few.
If they're supposed to work 'for you' but continue to work against you, then they need throwing out.
Dismantle those wooden blockades. Its good quality wood and soil that can be repurposed
There is no man or woman called the council... Who did they take to court
Isn't that the whole reason...💰🤔
Imagine if it’s foggy and you didn’t notice them throwing them up in the middle of the night.
Extortion by another name!
It's all about the MONEY.
100% Always
Just competed a video today with pretty much that theme
In my area they should focus on fly tipping, anti social behaviour and crime in general. The sheeps in my borough voted labour in who already inposed LTNs. LTNs just increase pollution as it concentrates cars on a main road and increase traffic. As someone said id like to see what happens when a emergency vehicle fails to get to a LTN area on time
They’re connected to w, ef .
Need to fund their brass houses and rent boys
Some of those wooden planters cost us £250,000 each as well! Sorry traffic calming installations.
Regrettably it's all our own fault, only about a third of people vote in local council elections which gives them carte blanche to do whatever they want. Want these clowns gone? Get off your arse and vote next May.
you obviously have no clue how it all works........voting is the illusion of choice
SO . . you still have faith in the voting system ??
Croydon Council has in the past couple of years forced through planning permission for multiple occupancy buildings on sites where detached and semi-detached houses once stood. All in the name of diversity, and increasing their revenue from Council Tax. It's a socialist council.
Hello in the morning
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I hope Oxford city council are watching this and shitting themselves.
the cash srapped sheffield council has just spent £470000000 on scewing up the city centre now they are on about spending anther £23.5 million doing the same to attercliffe and Darnall
It always about the money
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I wonder how much them boxes cost…
£50,000 plus the road signs! At a guess, I am sure the council will not verify this.
they closed some waste drop off points near me and ofcourse, no reduction of tax.
As much as i'd like this council to get cut down to size and pay up, it ain't gonna happen. Nothing will come of this, watch. And as for the 'future income' bit, all councils and TFL factor in fines and penalties in their future income forecasts. It's devious, it's nasty, it's underhand and should be illegal. But it won't change, it never does.
Another step towards 15 minuet cities
What you expect under a labour government, it's there policy....
dont agree with emission zones at all , why has a guy sitting behind a desk ( who definatly doesnt understand an ICE ) told me I cant drive my perfectly legal car , which has passed all the relavent Vehicle Operating Standards Agency requirments down certain selected roads without paying them ? For What ? Wheres the money going ? apart from to fund themselves ? they could use the money to buy everyone a newer car ! But more emmisions is produced manufacturing the car than it produces , no logic there then !!
Why are we not surprised ?
Think about why "councils" are listed on Dunn & Bradstreet...
Their supposed to represent the public, when are the people ever consulted, never. I've been on this planet 76 years and never been asked once about anything that concerns me and the rest of joe public. Democracy my arse
The zones are not about the environment, they about reducing traffic on residential streets so the space can be used by people who live there. Ones around me tend to be used for street parties and local BBQs in the summer, kids will often play in the street now it's safe too which is nice. Brings back the old community feel i grew up with
Sorry but my road tax is being misappropriated ! I need a rebate !
@@legsdymond2121 its not paid with road tax ...
its paid with council tax from the people living in that area
Who is allowed to audit councils?
its the same down the road from where I am, side roads been blocked off, main high street chockablock with traffic
Just pushes the traffic else where doesnt solve any problems just makes more problems
Another bill for the tax payers
100%
As if we don't have enough of them already
Let’s see. A to B is the shortest route. Then the direct route is blocked. So now you go a longer route, A to C to B. Does that seem like a lower emission plan to you? It was never about emissions.
100% Mate
A-B-C
It’s called moon lighting
Not shocked or surprised..
We don't have LTNs in my country.
How are the LTN road blocks configured? Specifically, can one drive in from one end of the road but not the other, or are both ends blocked?
Or maybe the idea is to go back to horse and cart and yes 20 million pounds talk about being a cash cow so much to say about the environment then isn't it I think most of us had a good idea that this was the case make people with cars pay this money they forget sometimes that some of us do need our cars to get to work I suppose if we all get on our push bikes and use them they'll think of a way of charging for using them the whole thing is a big scam anyway 🤔😮
How much money did the council spend on decorating every office and government building with Ukrainian flags and LBQT+Flags ? (+ is minor attracted BTW)
Those boxes cost around £3000 each in harrow yes
And the rest is more like £50,000 plus consultant fees, lamps, signage, new cameras, maintenance etc etc! Do not forget to change a bulb by the council may well cost £500! 😂
well it would seem that the reasonable thing to do would be to start taking the council to court for damages brought by potholes to cars
theyve got the cash now
so the potholes should be getting fixed
and if not then they should be fixing the cars
afterall how many times have the council said "we did it to prevent liability and getting sued" well you didnt fix the potholes to avoid getting sued so now were suing you
They'll put up a warning sign or close the entire road, before spending less on a bag of asfalt each year.
The issue with taking Councils to court is that any judgement, that imposes a fine on the council, will come from tax payer money.
Therefore, they do not care about being fined as they themselves, as individuals, are safe from the penalty.
Fines against Councils, and those making the decisions, should be held against those personally responsible, and taken from their own personal assets.
Maybe then they will start to think twice about doing it again.