The most unrealistic part of this system is that one good interaction seems to bring confidence up, and repeated bad interactions barely bring it down. In real life, it would be the opposite.
yeah. like in real life you can be good at some hobby but have low confidence because nobody appreciate it. I am trying to raise sim with low confidence and best I am gonna try lower the confidence just before b-day.
I agree. I wish we had a "bad childhood" milestone. So people would have to put effort to make it happy. I raised my todler miserably. For one I had a birthday party, for the other twin I let her grow old without anybody care. She had a sad moodlet of "they forget my birthday" but beside that nothing bad stick to the milestones.
Honestly it would’ve been cool if they made it differ from kid to kid because personality. Some kids are actually confident and hard to bring down while many others are not
Disappointing but not unexpected… I had to download mods for Parenthood too to be able to get the bad traits. And freeze the parents’ parenting level cause they become experts with zero effort. Like seriously, they gain parenting skill from shouting at the crying toddler, I can’t.🤣 Games are just no fun without challenges and bad events.
in my opinion i think it's cute bc kids who play can see the confidence rise fast but it lowers slow but then again it's the fucking sims kids who play this probably don't understand half the game elements💀 anyway waiting for a mod to fix this x
You could use this... dubious method of parenting to play the Pleasants from Sims 2. Angela has memories of learning to talk, walk, and use the potty. Lilith doesn't :/
I loved watching my husband play through that family! He had the dad cheat with the maid, mom kicked him out, the kids reconciled, and everyone but the dad was happy lol.
@@Kristenhas3cats Omg! Me and my sis both played it the same way, too, lol! Made the guy get a crappy appartement somewhere in the city, all lonesome. The rest of the fam wanted nothing to do with him anymore and the mom found a really nice, sound guy.
One thing I was annoyed with the childhood personalities is that its SO HARD to let your child sims grow up with the traits in the red. Its like every single little thing improves their childhood traits, like, PLEASE let me raise my children to be delinquents?? I usually just end up cheating to plummet their traits to the max red but the worst thing is that usually they start going back up soon after 💀💀
same, i just wanna be able to have more complex relationships with my sim families, where maybe a mom treats children differently because of.. whatever
They need to be better at hating each other when it's actually appropriate, it's annoying when my sims start going off at each other out of the blue despite being super close Fights between close friends are normal every now and then but not to the extent I see in my sims like bro you should not be going from full friendship to like half over a couple persistent negative interactions that you had out of nowhere you guys have been nothing but nice to each other where is this coming from??
@@disasterducky ikr, i also wish like mischief interactions with close friends were positive and not negative cuz i’d like my sims to be able to poke fun at eachother, like normal friends. adding on to that, poking fun could either be good or bad depending on how sensitive the sim is… god i wish we had better personalities 😒
@@odaphii My point more was it apparently takes two separate packs to provide rounded content for a single life stage, just like how it often takes multiple packs on the same subject/theme to cover that apparently It also doesn't help that she spent almost half a video based purely on confidence to actually manage to get the confidence level where it should have been for both children
@@Sylrien I mean, I'd rather have two packs both expanding upon a life stage than not expanding upon it at all. I think it's good that things take time and effort as well, because TS4 is WAY too easy as it currently stands.
If your adult Sim has the Hates Children trait, with toddlers and children they get an interaction of "Crush Dreams," which makes the little one sad. I bet that would have a good impact on lowering confidence.
They are only taken aways if they are hunger. My experiment was with toddler but is probably the same. The poor toodler had the sad moodlet all the time. Sometimes she got angry. I let her dirty, sleep outside of the house, ignore the social bar. She hate her father but wasnt taken away because I filled the hunger bar. I was expecting a sad milestone maybe like "bad childood" but she doesnt have any bad memory from it.
I think the reason they would have the same level of confidence is because your “being mean” in front of both kids even though your directing it to bad kid
1:32 i relate to this so much😂 some girl in middle school said “your nose is so perfect, until it gets down to the bottom & it looks all bubbly” LIKE WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?? Ppl always compliment my nose and every time i’m just like thanks BUT….😅
i wear glasses and rarely take them off. if i have to clean them i try to turn away from everyone because i'm insecure about how i look without them (my eyes are a bit small for my face so my glasses balance it out). one time someone saw me take them off and told me that my nose looked smaller with my glasses on. i know my nose isn't exactly super small so i guess my expression was uncomfortable and they quickly followed it with "in a good way, i mean!" oh... thanks...
It’s kinda fun that you hadn’t noticed the earthquakes though, haha. I think we got them in city living. It’s a lot trait. What I don’t get is how you see if there’s neutral/high/low confidence? None of the kids in my game has had any confidence traits even with the new pack. They just get the happy toddler or whatever.
I tried so hard to create a storyline of a verbally abusive parent producing kids with low confidence and it was impossible. LET THE SIMS HAVE PERVASIVE TRAUMA!
Well the upside is the complaint everyone has is that it's much harder to ruin a child's life than to bring them up well. Use MCCC to make everyone's needs decay much slower and you can use it as "healthy re-parenting simulator".
I wish the world made things as easy as The Sims 4 does; I literally can’t get rid of money fast enough or spend enough of it on stuff, and every person easily becomes confident and great but requires active work to become a hot mess
I enjoyed this episode! Other topic: There's a dancing BONEHILDA loading screen mod, by 20th century plumbob. Thought this might be relevant to your interests.
I love when you do these! Feels like reading a fic with a friend lmao oh no its Max I really love this! I can't wait for that video cuz I know it'll be just as good as every video you put out!
I don't know why but I expected this to be about the responsible/reputation thing that came with Parenthood. I've never known if having a bad reputation actually affects meeting people and making friends.
(In response to the flat ass conversation) I'm a guy but I have a dumbstruck and a half. During my first ever party, a drinking game called for an "ass content" where all the guys had to line up and let the rest judge their ass. I won :) Considering I didn't know the others that well yet it was kinda awkward lol Did boost my confidence though
I successfully avoided Mother's Day because of No Contact. I wish I had a good Mum but I don't. Those with good parents make sure you appreciate them. You're lucky.
I also remember the bad things that one person once said years ago that I hold onto and can never forget like one person called me “stocky” and I’m just a short girl and it was the wrong choice of words but I still will always think of myself as “stocky”😂😂😂 I relate! 1:30
I know it goes against this experiment but the way I found myself rooting for Bad Child like I rooted for Neglected to find moments of joy and do ok in school and development despite everything in their home life.
The missed opportunity to name them Angela Pleasant and Lilith Pleasant... 👀 The moment I saw they both have red hair and one of them is gonna be "good" and the other "bad", it just clicked.
11:18 When she set their reputation to atrocious and said "you literally did nothing" made me realize that that should be a feature in the game. Kids and teens can be awful to each other and even if you've done literally nothing wrong, they can give you a horrible reputation. I think it'd be awesome if they could incorporate that somehow along with the reverse like "spread rumor about X" It would've been SO good had they brought it with the high school pack and at least acknowledged the hierarchy system. Like a kid's social butterfly aspiration brought to teens with a task to be prom queen or a member of The Popular Kid club or added new lifestyles specific to their ages ... I guess, I just want to see more cross-pack integration.
I'd love to see an LP where you raise a child as bare minimum as possible, just enough to not get them taken away, and play through the child. This shows us what happens when you actively hate and attack your childs confidence, but I'm curious to see about general hands off/neglect parenting
My child was so confidence that he thought he can help the nanny put out the fire and caught himself on fire and the mom took the infant outside and stayed out there
I also think it would be so neat if they added a mechanic that made it harder to gain confidence in ur teen years cause like everyone is most vulnerable at that age 😭
At first I liked the confidence mechanic but when I tried to create drama with constantly confident sims it really got on my nerves lol. Like my current Sim Jolene has been confident 458 TIMES!! In comparison she's been uncomfortable only 120 times. Like wtf that girl has been on the street, stuck with a child, cheated on, and I had mods to make her life miserable but her confidence messes it all up
I think rather than having parents not interact at all with 2 children (when we could do that with just one) for the leaving things up to the game, I would make one practically raise themselves, and the other be raised with parents like you did that other time before this pack. Kinda like one being Dudley and the other being Harry. So you aren't actively shit to the kid, but they don't have any additional support, it's all up to them how they turn out. No making it harder either or cancelling autonomous actions if good like doing homework, cause it'd be interesting to see if they still turn out decent on their own ,despite the "struggle".
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The most unrealistic part of this system is that one good interaction seems to bring confidence up, and repeated bad interactions barely bring it down. In real life, it would be the opposite.
The sims 4 has a bad habit of being a happiness simulator instead of a life simulator so I can’t even say I’m surprised at it
I've noticed the opposite I notice how easy it us to lose confidence lol 😆
the issue i’m having is one twin never goes below high confidence while the other switches between high and neutral even if i praise her all the time
yeah. like in real life you can be good at some hobby but have low confidence because nobody appreciate it. I am trying to raise sim with low confidence and best I am gonna try lower the confidence just before b-day.
I agree. I wish we had a "bad childhood" milestone. So people would have to put effort to make it happy. I raised my todler miserably. For one I had a birthday party, for the other twin I let her grow old without anybody care. She had a sad moodlet of "they forget my birthday" but beside that nothing bad stick to the milestones.
The way you subconsciously created Lilith and Angela Pleasant's origin stories lol
They even turn into Lilith and Angela as teens 12:43 😂😂
I came here to comment this exact thing
They're both redheads too
And the peppy one is the neglected one because she's trying to achieve her mother's love by being perfect.
the unrealisticness is how hard it is to lower confidence and how easy it is to raise it🙂🤣
Honestly it would’ve been cool if they made it differ from kid to kid because personality. Some kids are actually confident and hard to bring down while many others are not
at least we can be sure that the modding community will come through
Disappointing but not unexpected… I had to download mods for Parenthood too to be able to get the bad traits. And freeze the parents’ parenting level cause they become experts with zero effort. Like seriously, they gain parenting skill from shouting at the crying toddler, I can’t.🤣
Games are just no fun without challenges and bad events.
in my opinion i think it's cute bc kids who play can see the confidence rise fast but it lowers slow
but then again it's the fucking sims kids who play this probably don't understand half the game elements💀
anyway waiting for a mod to fix this x
Right!!!
The sims 4 childhood trauma
End of the year new sims pack 😂 only 29.99
Make your adult sims have favorite kids and play out the hated child!...and you can make your parent sim cheat for more trauma!!!
@@CreekBoltGaming wow its my childhood! /hj
0/10 for ethics 10/10 for implementation of the scientific method, love a twin study. Very effective.
so true, love a woman in stem
Women in stem ❤
You could use this... dubious method of parenting to play the Pleasants from Sims 2. Angela has memories of learning to talk, walk, and use the potty. Lilith doesn't :/
I loved watching my husband play through that family! He had the dad cheat with the maid, mom kicked him out, the kids reconciled, and everyone but the dad was happy lol.
@@Kristenhas3cats Omg! Me and my sis both played it the same way, too, lol! Made the guy get a crappy appartement somewhere in the city, all lonesome. The rest of the fam wanted nothing to do with him anymore and the mom found a really nice, sound guy.
One thing I was annoyed with the childhood personalities is that its SO HARD to let your child sims grow up with the traits in the red. Its like every single little thing improves their childhood traits, like, PLEASE let me raise my children to be delinquents?? I usually just end up cheating to plummet their traits to the max red but the worst thing is that usually they start going back up soon after 💀💀
theres a hard parenting mod that starts the traits out in red instead of neutral. it's not a fix your your issue but it might help!
Same. I had to get mods for that. Time to wait for modders to fix the game mechanics again.😓
i wish i could make my sims parents actually neglectful and mean to them but they always apologize… sims need to be better at hating eachother…
same, i just wanna be able to have more complex relationships with my sim families, where maybe a mom treats children differently because of.. whatever
@@HydraVenus fr
They need to be better at hating each other when it's actually appropriate, it's annoying when my sims start going off at each other out of the blue despite being super close
Fights between close friends are normal every now and then but not to the extent I see in my sims like bro you should not be going from full friendship to like half over a couple persistent negative interactions that you had out of nowhere you guys have been nothing but nice to each other where is this coming from??
@@disasterducky ikr, i also wish like mischief interactions with close friends were positive and not negative cuz i’d like my sims to be able to poke fun at eachother, like normal friends. adding on to that, poking fun could either be good or bad depending on how sensitive the sim is… god i wish we had better personalities 😒
One of my sims was mean and her son and her had a horrible relationship, but somehow she got along with the daughter
Having two entire packs catering towards the child life stage and still not being able to even impact them in gameplay is on brand for the Sims 4
wdym? parenthood is great when it comes to impact lmao
@@odaphii My point more was it apparently takes two separate packs to provide rounded content for a single life stage, just like how it often takes multiple packs on the same subject/theme to cover that apparently
It also doesn't help that she spent almost half a video based purely on confidence to actually manage to get the confidence level where it should have been for both children
@@Sylrien I mean, I'd rather have two packs both expanding upon a life stage than not expanding upon it at all. I think it's good that things take time and effort as well, because TS4 is WAY too easy as it currently stands.
This is basically Angela and Lilith Pleasant as children
If your adult Sim has the Hates Children trait, with toddlers and children they get an interaction of "Crush Dreams," which makes the little one sad. I bet that would have a good impact on lowering confidence.
thank goodness for the sims to practice non ethical experiments kind of ethically
Now I’m waiting on a video from you on how long it takes infants to be taken away due to neglect. New life stage, new experiment!
i feel like every time i play with infants, i come dangerously close to discovering that limit
@@emmaisliterate1047 🤣🤣
They are only taken aways if they are hunger. My experiment was with toddler but is probably the same. The poor toodler had the sad moodlet all the time. Sometimes she got angry. I let her dirty, sleep outside of the house, ignore the social bar. She hate her father but wasnt taken away because I filled the hunger bar. I was expecting a sad milestone maybe like "bad childood" but she doesnt have any bad memory from it.
I feel like this is always a problem with sims 4 packs (parenthood, eco lifestyle..). EA just does not add negative consequences.
A wise person once said “pancakes still get ate” and with that I will see myself out
Even pancakes come in many varieties, from crepes to those 3 inch ones. Therefore, everyone has pancake booty
I love you both for that. Thank you for the laughs
I really thought this was about Bob and Eliza for a second
....Now I know what will happen to Bob and Eliza..... 😬😅
I think the reason they would have the same level of confidence is because your “being mean” in front of both kids even though your directing it to bad kid
1:32 i relate to this so much😂 some girl in middle school said “your nose is so perfect, until it gets down to the bottom & it looks all bubbly” LIKE WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?? Ppl always compliment my nose and every time i’m just like thanks BUT….😅
i wear glasses and rarely take them off. if i have to clean them i try to turn away from everyone because i'm insecure about how i look without them (my eyes are a bit small for my face so my glasses balance it out). one time someone saw me take them off and told me that my nose looked smaller with my glasses on. i know my nose isn't exactly super small so i guess my expression was uncomfortable and they quickly followed it with "in a good way, i mean!" oh... thanks...
It’s kinda fun that you hadn’t noticed the earthquakes though, haha. I think we got them in city living. It’s a lot trait. What I don’t get is how you see if there’s neutral/high/low confidence? None of the kids in my game has had any confidence traits even with the new pack. They just get the happy toddler or whatever.
I think it only appear in the kid stage.
Plumbella: Locks Bad child from bathroom
Also Plumbella: WhY cAn'T yOu PiSs???
Jesse casually roleplaying as abby lee miller
okay but if you're already making ginger twin girls and the parent only cares about one of them, you might as well just call them angela and lillith
They are literally giving Lillith and Angela (from The Sims 2 Pleasant family) vibes! Lol
I'm so happy that you have subtitles now
Although at the end it did say "please describe your oven already" instead of "please subscribe if you haven't already" xD
I tried so hard to create a storyline of a verbally abusive parent producing kids with low confidence and it was impossible. LET THE SIMS HAVE PERVASIVE TRAUMA!
mother's day in the uk always does freak me out! when I see people posting about it I'm like "SHIT I FORGOT" 😂
I am LOVING that this new pack is giving us such GREAT content from Jesse! Amazing!
this is the pleasant twins origin story.. it’s plums doing
Video idea: New ranking of Townies on a scale of how iconic to terrible it would be to "have bladder failure" in front of.
I I Think this pack would make the sims feel too realistic for me, I don't need to be vicariously retraumatized
Well the upside is the complaint everyone has is that it's much harder to ruin a child's life than to bring them up well. Use MCCC to make everyone's needs decay much slower and you can use it as "healthy re-parenting simulator".
these new videos have been absolutely incredible jesse this is GLORIOUS im lovin it xxx
Yea . . . the Confidence system for children . . . the math isn't mathing.
Aw, poor "Bad". She's actually a cute little sim. Love the chaos though.
I really hope jesse is loving this pack as much as she hoped 🥰
The auto captions transcribe "please subscribe if you haven't already" to "please describe your oven already"
I wanted someone to test this out on Lilith & Angela Pleasant recreations and Plumbella has delivered.
My parents did the same test
I wish the world made things as easy as The Sims 4 does; I literally can’t get rid of money fast enough or spend enough of it on stuff, and every person easily becomes confident and great but requires active work to become a hot mess
I enjoyed this episode!
Other topic: There's a dancing BONEHILDA loading screen mod, by 20th century plumbob. Thought this might be relevant to your interests.
You just made a golden child and a scapegoat.
I love the chaos. The best way to start today.
Missed opportunity to name the children angela and lilith!!!
Okay but I've also never seen that earthquake thing??
This would be a great experiment to do with the Pleasant twins
i’ve just been thinking i want to make angela and lilith and see how they turn out after being treated oppositely in every life stage!
So you basically did Angela and Lilith Pleasant, you monster! :P
The title of this is unhinged and I love it
I love when you do these! Feels like reading a fic with a friend lmao
oh no its Max
I really love this! I can't wait for that video cuz I know it'll be just as good as every video you put out!
My sims lived in that house, too, and I also thought the earthquakes were new. I literally never had it happen until living in that house😂
Mary-Sue Pleasant simulator be like:
LMFAO
anyone else feel bad for bad child and want a redemption arc where they find love and raise kids to the best of their abilities
Yikes was someone controlling me in my childhood too?!
"We have low confidence now, which is great 😄" 6:32
I'm laughing so much at the advice you gave at the beginning.
“You can’t be happy and funny! It’s one or the other” 😂😂
omg i thought you had gotten a bob from the thumbnail and i was SHOOK
If you have the volcanic lot trait it can land on your sim or if the sim touches it you can die
thanks for the closed captions, really appreciate it!
I don't know why but I expected this to be about the responsible/reputation thing that came with Parenthood. I've never known if having a bad reputation actually affects meeting people and making friends.
5:38 The monster under the bed smash cut to the earthquake with Plumbella's reactions fucking destroyed me 😂🤣😂
(In response to the flat ass conversation)
I'm a guy but I have a dumbstruck and a half. During my first ever party, a drinking game called for an "ass content" where all the guys had to line up and let the rest judge their ass. I won :)
Considering I didn't know the others that well yet it was kinda awkward lol Did boost my confidence though
I successfully avoided Mother's Day because of No Contact. I wish I had a good Mum but I don't.
Those with good parents make sure you appreciate them. You're lucky.
I also remember the bad things that one person once said years ago that I hold onto and can never forget like one person called me “stocky” and I’m just a short girl and it was the wrong choice of words but I still will always think of myself as “stocky”😂😂😂 I relate! 1:30
Bad child said you can’t break me binch
i think it should have been "good child and ....sad child" :/ LOL
It’s loosely based on San Francisco.. of course they have given lots the earthquake trait Ah!
Dude I have never seen the earthquake thing before what
I know it goes against this experiment but the way I found myself rooting for Bad Child like I rooted for Neglected to find moments of joy and do ok in school and development despite everything in their home life.
"You are the last puzzle in this piece". Wise words, Jesse HAHA
"You WILL take my text Peirce" is my favorite line from this video 😄
The missed opportunity to name them Angela Pleasant and Lilith Pleasant... 👀
The moment I saw they both have red hair and one of them is gonna be "good" and the other "bad", it just clicked.
11:18 When she set their reputation to atrocious and said "you literally did nothing" made me realize that that should be a feature in the game. Kids and teens can be awful to each other and even if you've done literally nothing wrong, they can give you a horrible reputation. I think it'd be awesome if they could incorporate that somehow along with the reverse like "spread rumor about X" It would've been SO good had they brought it with the high school pack and at least acknowledged the hierarchy system. Like a kid's social butterfly aspiration brought to teens with a task to be prom queen or a member of The Popular Kid club or added new lifestyles specific to their ages ... I guess, I just want to see more cross-pack integration.
I think you should do the "leave the Sims for 24 hours challenge" again but including infants this time (+ extreme violence😂)
I immediately subbed lmaoo, love your personality❤️
The earthquake is because they gave that house a lot trait edit just seen you figure it out lol it took me a while
THE TITTLE😂I LOVE YOU😂❤
I love how you put translations in your description
When you said its almost mothers day there, I freaked out for a second and thought I missed mothers day. Then I remembered I dont live in the UK. yet.
2:53 had me rolling😭😭
Tysm for the captions!!
I'd love to see an LP where you raise a child as bare minimum as possible, just enough to not get them taken away, and play through the child. This shows us what happens when you actively hate and attack your childs confidence, but I'm curious to see about general hands off/neglect parenting
It would be interesting to see how Bad is effected by the bonus trait as an adult
My child was so confidence that he thought he can help the nanny put out the fire and caught himself on fire and the mom took the infant outside and stayed out there
Good child is a cat lover, bad child is a cat lover. 😂 That was hilarious. My type of humor.
What confidence mechanism I must have missed something 😂
I also think it would be so neat if they added a mechanic that made it harder to gain confidence in ur teen years cause like everyone is most vulnerable at that age 😭
They're giving ✨️Parent Trap✨️
the earthquakes send me 😭
Jessie! You missed the opportunity to make TS2 Pleasant twins 😭 one grows up good and one Bad.
I feel kinda bad for Bad Child :( Mom should've been named Bad Mother lol. 10/10 experiment tho
Twins be looking like parent trap! 😂
I just watched game theory’s video on Bella Goth disappearance and omg I think he cracked it
im like 20 seconds in but... im pretty sure this was a legit experiment done in like the 50's? one of the nature vs nurture things or something
At first I liked the confidence mechanic but when I tried to create drama with constantly confident sims it really got on my nerves lol. Like my current Sim Jolene has been confident 458 TIMES!! In comparison she's been uncomfortable only 120 times. Like wtf that girl has been on the street, stuck with a child, cheated on, and I had mods to make her life miserable but her confidence messes it all up
I think rather than having parents not interact at all with 2 children (when we could do that with just one) for the leaving things up to the game, I would make one practically raise themselves, and the other be raised with parents like you did that other time before this pack. Kinda like one being Dudley and the other being Harry. So you aren't actively shit to the kid, but they don't have any additional support, it's all up to them how they turn out. No making it harder either or cancelling autonomous actions if good like doing homework, cause it'd be interesting to see if they still turn out decent on their own ,despite the "struggle".
Well now I have a new experiment to run...
plz post a video reacting to sims tik toks they’ve been so good
Sims 4 being another mediator of human experiments
Mother of sims looks like F1Elly like a scary amount
COMPLETELY UNRELATED BUT I LOVE YOUR CHAIR
hey gurlllll love ya 💖
basically the pleasants