An extremely abusive person in my life ended up with terminal pancreatic cancer, and you can bet your ass I did not feel any ounce of sorrow for him 💀 For them to manipulate the girls like that is disgusting behavior.
I thought that was so bizarre & manipulative too. Someone who S/A me ended up having a cancer scare. I didn't have contact with them for 4 years at the time and it affected me deeply but I didn't get in contact with them to say anything. Though this person did hurt me we had a very long history with each other so it really shocked me to hear.
Jojo is just a selfish jerk who only cares about herself and don’t care about other peoples feelings she treats leigha and the others like trash because she’s nasty and basically a dictator it basically her way or nothing it horrible
I think jojo needs to acknowledge that her mom and her joined KNOWING what the experience would be like. I sort of agree with her personally in that a teacher being blunt with me doesn't really bother me as much as it seems to bother other people. But her and her mom knew that is what they were signing up for. The other girls signed up for a dance documentary and then were trapped having to perform and work with a teacher that was yelling insults at them. Save for Melissa, I don't think the other moms would've joined the series if they knew what it would be like before hand. It's okay for Jojo to not be bothered by that style of teaching but not okay to not realize the different circumstances.
@@moriahmcgill3687 At this point I feel like Jojo is doing all of this stuff for attention, I mean that's obvious. But I just can't believe she's dumb enough to think she's ACTUALLY doing something with her rebrand and shit.
@@derrickjuinoryeah I mean she makes a big deal about the others girls not coming and being mad at them for not good reason its ridiculous she just likes Abby
Holly still had Nia do the show even after all the awful things Abby did to the children. Holly might be more well spoken than the rest, but she was no better.
I think it’s more so that people are protective of the other girls because Maddie was the favorite…. But that’s still weird because like this all happened 10 years ago and all the girls have trauma from Abby.
She’s a scapegoat for them and it’s so sad. She doesn’t talk bad about them, she literally just minds her own business and they’re all so bothered for some reason
Jojo saying it's okay because people like Abby are normal in Hollywood, is just rationalizing the person Jojo herself became and the people she chooses to associate with like Colleen. Gross behavior.
Exactly, of course she thinks it's okay because she's surrounded by toxic people and grown up in it and around it so it's normal to her. Disappointing but not surprised
Especially for Maddie, she'd have to sit there and pretend her trauma wasn't real and be made to feel like the other girl's trauma is part her fault. I wouldn't have went either and listen to all of Jojo's wrong opinions 😂
im sorry but why would melissa invite jojo and kalani to paige's surprise bd party(?, they never met paige, they were not paige's friends, and im sorry but christi saying jojo is a threat to maddie and kenzie is just pure delusion, jojo's career is not being an actress like maddie, she does not write her songs like kenzie, how is she a threat? I've listen to some of the episodes of back to the barre (the christi and kelly podcast) and the way christi talks about the zieglers is just pure bitterness even after all of these years PS: Forgot to mention, kira and kalani are so quick to point the fingers at melissa, and also quick to forgot melissa literally "babysat" kalani for several weeks in season 6 when kira was pregnant and took legal guardianship of her so that kalani could continue dancing, and now all of the sudden she is a bad person? Give me a break
@@imoniann2543 I mean either way why should Jojo or kalani be there I mean isn't kalani part of the reason Brooke and Paige left also Jojo never even met them so why should they be there and kirah can shut the hell up because the amount of times Melissa took care of kalani makes me wonder if kirah even parents her and kirah still has the audacity to say that Melisa always wants drama is insane.
Nia has always been so mature and her response was amazing. It’s sad Jojo was manipulated by her mom and Abbey but it doesn’t excuse her behavior. I’m so happy Chloe is beginning to heal!
It's so bizarre that Jojo seems to believe that everyone owes Abbie something. It's possible for a person to both present opportunities and also have a horrible personality 👀
I think jojo sees herself in Abbie. I think her way of dealing with Abbie was to be like her Weather to protect herself as a kid or just because she's they away she (and her mum is). It really shows with how she treated xomgpop. If she admitted Abbie was abusive she would have to admit her oun behaviour is abusive.
melissa literally has such a close relationship with paige and brooke, of course she would throw her a party when they’re all in LA. it’s not a conspiracy that it “happened to be the night before”, it’s just…the best time to do it cuz everyone’s in the same place (i don’t think brooke and paige live in LA, and i know kendall goes to college on the east coast)
Christi needs to drop the grudge at this point. It's really vindictive at this point and it was cruel to compare Jojo's success to Maddie and Kenzie's when they're just as successful
@@PGOumawell they’re definitely not as successful but it doesn’t matter. They are in different fields. And there’s no threat they are all adults and can handle things like adults and should be able the accept things they way they are. They’re not petty 12 year olds. Plus I think it’s better to be famous as a teen/adult actress and or musician than as a kid magnet bc while it may make more money, it’s also a short lived career whereas Maddie can keep doing this for another 20 years. Jojo is a falling star right now. 2-3 years from now she may be forgetten she’s already a meme and walking disaster now
Jojo is so weird defending Abby, she also defended Colleen after her pedo accusations. She defends these really problematic women and sees no problem with it. This is horrible to assume, but I wonder if she got taken advantage of when little by a woman. She does all these mental gymnastics to defend the abuser
It's not too weird if you look at the bigger picture. She came on the show later on so she knew what she was getting into, she left the show after 2 seasons to pursue another opportunity thus not having the full years long Abby experience like the OG girls did, because she dealt with Abby in her formative years she views people like Abby as normal thus normalizing the toxic people she associates with. Her mom definitely helped normalize it by allowing her to be around these types of people too. Think about it. Every single person or friend she defends has some horrible controversy or are groomers or just outright act toxic. It's all normal for her and she can't see it differently. She won't ever see it differently until she finally has the epiphany and works to unpack her whole childhood experience in therapy. Plus, we can see she's emotionally stunted to some degree. Her idea of being "bad" or adult is to keep telling everyone how adult she is now while wearing a bunch of bedazzled outfits like she's still her 12 year old self then playfully hunching another dancer in a music video. Her response to Tana Mongeau when her feelings were hurt was to send a passive aggressive text rather than telling Tana how she felt directly. Then talked about her behind her back on a podcast letting her other friend call Tana a bitch. If you look at all of her behavior over time and place it all together it makes a lot of sense that she would defend Abby.
@@Ashbrash1998 I actually believe that jojo and her mom don't see anything wrong with it. They approach this from a business perspective to build jojo's career.
that‘s a wild thing to even consider. plus she also defends james charles who is a man. she doesn‘t have a full education and questionable morals not unsurprising given how she grew up.
jojo normalising abbys abuse and saying it taught her how to deal with hollywood is absurd. no child at that age or anyone in that matter deserves to be treated the way these girls were. and after years her and her mom both abused little kids on their own show. honestly ridiculous. someone please get her off of social media.
Absolutely. There is no excuse for Jojo at this point. I had a horseback instructor growing up, who was just like Abbey. She would scream at us, call us stupid, and so on. I would absolutely not defend her to *anyone* , let alone national tv.
None of the original dancers should have to feel grateful for anything! They worked their childhood butts off both physical and emotionally. In my opinion earned everything they have from the show.
Jojo's the type to think "It didn't happen to me so that means it couldn't possibly be true." But it _did_ happen to her. She just doesn't realize it yet.
To be honest, I'm kinda glad maddie and kenzie weren't there because I feel like their presence would have overshadowed a lot of the other girls, not on purpose ofc but I feel like the producer's would have filmed and edited it in that way or purposely try to create more drama and tension. But idk just my thoughts.
Kira would sell her daughter to the highest bidder… noone cares about her thoughts towards the other children and their choices. Outrageous for her to try to make her opinion relevant
I wish Camryn was there tbh I would love to see her drag Kira cuz that vile women BULLIED HER at such a young age when I saw a video she made abt her I realized Kira just sucks 🤷♂️ she was mean and has been mean to many kids and Sarah/brynn is also an exemple of her being a bully
Is anyone shocked about how Jojo is acting anyone…. anyone. My heart goes out to the girls who didn’t want to come back bc if you don’t feel comfortable putting yourself in that environment again then that is absolutely your right.
Fun fact, Jojo actually disregarded Christi saying that Gia was horrible to her and Chloe by saying ‘oh, well when I was there after you guys left, she was never mean to me’ … 😃
I cannot stand how it's constantly thrown around like these rivalries were Maddie's doing. It was Abby. Maddie didn't change the score cards, Maddie didn't move the pictures around on the pyramid. Maddie was a puppet for a bunch of adults and then her friends felt bad because of situations Maddie was put in, and then the moms are blaming her like this nine year old was calling all the shots. Even now, they're all in their 20s and so much of that reunion was still talking about Maddie like she was a shitty friend and a backstabber, when she was just doing what she was told and was just trying to dance
I lost all my respect for JoJo. Matter of fact, I've been lost my respect for JoJo. She never cares about anyone but herself. She always thinks that everything that Abby did was normal. That's not normal!!? That's ABUSE!! and then she has the audacity to shame the three girls who didn't show up. It's optional!! They don't have to come. It's not a big deal but she's making it a big deal. All these girls have trauma, especially Chloe, Brooke, Paige, Maddie, Mackenzie, Nia and Kendall (Correct me if I'm wrong respectfully please). She's the most problematic person ever and I can't stand her. This whole reunion she made me mad bro. They all went through so much in the past and she has no respect for any of them. Unbelievable....
3:17 her saying “I just didn’t want to go” is enough of an explanation. She doesn’t owe us a damn thing. She doesn’t owe those people a damn thing. She set a boundary leave her be.
watching that clip of Nia reminded me why I've always loved her and Holly. They are both so emotionally mature and I've always loved how Holly would always stand up to Abby for those kids! unproblematic queens👑💗
The victim absolutely does not “usually” become an abuser. There is a cycle of abuse but that’s not the only reason people become abusive. Some people just only care about themselves and put what they want over harm to other people, not because they have trauma or mental illness, but because people are not made the same and have different world views that allow them to justify abuses others to themselves. People with trauma and mental illness are more likely to be abused than abusive.
I agree like why would jojo & Kalanie (idk how to spell her name so don't come at me) would be invited when Chloe, Paige & Brooke left the show before they even joined 🤦🏾♀️ like I wouldn't want people I don't know at my party 🙄 & I don't blame any of the girls that didn't show up cuz I pro would do the same thing if I was them 🤷🏾♀️ (honestly om very surprised that Chloe Paige & Brooke even showed up idk why I just do)
Nia maddie and Kenzie don’t owe anyone an explanation for anything! It’s their choice so why is jojo being so butthurt like what if jojo was on the other side… she wouldn’t like it either
the problem i have is that this was produced by the same people who caused some of the trauma these girls have. of course they probably couldn't speak freely and i wouldn't be surprised if it came out that abby orchestrated the whole reunion. and kalani and jojo being mad that they weren't invited to a party for a girl they either never met or barely know is so audacious and just shows how out of touch both of them are. what i did like was hearing how chloe has started healing from this and that she is so strong and confident now, she was always the reason i watched dance moms growing up. i like that the o.g. girls are still really close even after everything and seem to have a stronger bond than when the show first started. of course kalani and jojo aren't going to be included because they knew what they were getting into, they worked with abby on audc before joining the main show.
I don't think that Abby was involved, she was mad that they were using so many clips with her in it without her permission (shows how out of touch she is seeing as they own the footage, not her). A couple of the girls said that they wouldn't do the reunion if Abby was there and apparently the producers asked JoJo to facetime Abby during filming and JoJo refused (Abby was in the UK when this was filmed)
Jojo and kalani proving maddie, kenzi and nia’s point by creating drama out of nothing and trying to control other people’s narratives. Not surprised at all lmao
Jojo and Kalani not being invited kinda makes sense bc the OG girls (except for Kendall) knew eachother since they were like 2. It’s more than just friendship, it’s a sisterhood. Jojo and Kalani don’t know the Hylands. Also, why would they want to invite people that are actively choosing to be in contact with the person that hurt them the most. Imagine how awkward and annoying that meeting would be
Why is JoJo even considered an OG if she was only on for one season? So why was she even invited to go? What about the other girls who was on for longer then JoJo
Kendall is kinda an OG but not really so i was confused when she walked with Chloe Paige and Brooke when she’s not an OG. Plus, Kendall also said the same thing that JoJo and Kalani said and liked JoJo’s shady instagram caption. Like Kendall literally went through sm trauma just like Paige, Brooke and Chloe so why is she throwing shade?
Christi and Melissa are on good terms now, so her saying all that stuff just feels so coached and fake. Sad to see these producers are STILL trying to divide the Lukasiaks and the Zieglers 🙄
Jojo needs to mind her own business. Those girls are women now and perfectly within their right to protect their peace. Heaven knows it wasn't protected when they were children.
Jojo and Kalani are both being such pick-mes. Ofc we all expected it from Jojo, but Kalani must just be bitter that she’s just a basic ass dance teacher now, while Maddie’s in movies and Kenzie is a full blown musician. They didn’t even know Paige, the Ziegler’s threw Paige a surprise party, why would they be invited? Them saying that the Ziegler’s were just trying to make headlines is sooo hypocritical.
If you watched the show, Christi also agreed with them as well when Kelly faced time her. You can tell she still has bitterness towards Melissa as the other mom’s and Kelly
@@justsochelsea And why did she compare Jojo's success to Maddie and Kenzie's?? They're just as successful (and aren't becoming a mini Abby) and she's just proving Abby's point that she WAS jealous of the Ziegler kids because the grudge she has against Melissa is vindictive at this point. And I hate how Chloe agrees with her mom about Melissa's intentions.
@@justsochelsea 100% agree. She’s fsfs still bitter about the opportunities Melissa’s girls were given over Chloe. I think Chloe was treated so unfairly by Abby, she did not ever deserve the cruelty. But Christi acting as if she wouldn’t have done the same damn thing as Melissa if Chloe was the star dancer instead of Maddie is despicable.
An exploitative, abusive show with child members who were being parade around in insult and hate, mostly by abbey, not surprised it made an egoistical, rude jojo siwa who values her image first and others never. I have full respect and understanding for the dancers who didnt attend the reunion for their better health
Christi has always been soooo jealous of Melissa and her kids its ridiculous. Shes so bitter even after all these years. Also when rhey did the OG panel, why was Kendall there?? Shes not an OG. It should have just been Chloe, Brooke, ans Paige.
It is so incredibly frustrating to see Jojo's mindset of "if its true for me then its true for everyone else." She can't seem to understand that everyone is different. You can see it in her behavior on The Reunion, but also in how she treated her own pop group! 😮💨
Ok let’s be real here the only reason why Abby still keeps in touch with Jojo is because she’s super famous and rich now. They are both using each other for clout. There I said it lol
Unfortunately most people who get fillers get too much. It makes me so sad just love what God gave you. If you absolutely need it don't do too much a little goes a long way and can be very beautiful.
Not the producers claiming the chaos and emotional abuse isn’t what the show was supposed to be about in the beginning when they’ve literally admitted in the past that the first moment that made them realize they wanted the show was when Abby screamed at a mom and degraded her daughter calling her stupid, called the cops, and expelled the kid all because she was WEARING SOCKS
the reunion was bad....they never called out the producers or anything...just looked back on moments...but they all do that already on their socials..were i feel like they were more honest..
Nia’s so over it LOL she seems beyond ready to give it a rest and move on . Those moms owe their own daughters an apology aswell . Some one those moms LOVED being on tv too much . There’s something up with Christy for sure LOL she was so weird towards Maddie when she was little
There was just this huge Abby apologist vibe that was icky. Starting from the very beginning implying Melissa is just So manipulative and Maddie and Kenzie are always saying they aren't grateful for what DM has given them in their current lives (which isn't true) and was being purposefully manipulative when it came to Paige's birthday party the night before (like Jojo and Kalani didn't really overlap with Paige) They brought up so many traumas and then asked if they'll ever talk to Abby again. Literally having Jojo there. (She did not come away from this looking good)
That’s true but it still doesn’t diminish what they went through. Even though others trauma isn’t as great as your doesn’t mean they don’t have their own trauma too. ❤
Nah I’m sorry I don’t like any of the moms. To put your child through literal abuse that affects them throughout their lives for a check? They could have left or not renew their contracts but they didn’t care about the mental wellbeing of their daughters as long as they were getting paid.
christi is waaaay too hateful towards maddie.. you can tell she still holds such strong resentment and even on the show she’d try to say it’s not about maddie but made no effort to protect her from her remarks as an actual child
Yall talking about the racism. I wanna remind yall Nia has a disorder that turns her stress into physical pain. There’s an episode where it’s in her feet from the stress Abby put on her. That’s a lot for a kid
Jojo is so irratating. You have Nia who faced a lot of racism on the show. Why would she want to come back to that environment Even jojo was mistreated so why is it hard for her to grasp that ppl dont want to come back that
JoJo is an obnoxious mess that did not experience the trauma that some did. Abby was a monster to several of the girls, Nia and Chloe in particular were treated horribly. Over the seven years that this show was taping we saw Abby literally beat the joy of dancing out of Brooke, Paige, Chloe, Nia, Maddie and Mackenzie. JoJo was only there for two seasons and bounced before Abby could screw her up!
Guys remember DO NOT trust what you see!!!! These producers always set things up like this for drama. Kalani is usually so classy and respectful so why is she so angry with Melissa all of a sudden? Same with Christi she's calmed down a lot over the years and Melissa and her are on good terms so I don't believe that scene was real at all
showing clips of abby’s cancer diagnosis after them talking about all the trauma they have from abby is so incredibly manipulative.
Producers up to their same old crap.
An extremely abusive person in my life ended up with terminal pancreatic cancer, and you can bet your ass I did not feel any ounce of sorrow for him 💀 For them to manipulate the girls like that is disgusting behavior.
Yes it was so gross and obvious manipulation
fr i would hope the show would change the producers because of this same exact reason but they didn’t
I thought that was so bizarre & manipulative too.
Someone who S/A me ended up having a cancer scare. I didn't have contact with them for 4 years at the time and it affected me deeply but I didn't get in contact with them to say anything. Though this person did hurt me we had a very long history with each other so it really shocked me to hear.
Jojo needs to stfu and the O.G girls have the right to express THEIR trauma and feelings on what they went through with Abby.
Jojo is just a selfish jerk who only cares about herself and don’t care about other peoples feelings she treats leigha and the others like trash because she’s nasty and basically a dictator it basically her way or nothing it horrible
THIS!! well said! 👏💯
I think jojo needs to acknowledge that her mom and her joined KNOWING what the experience would be like. I sort of agree with her personally in that a teacher being blunt with me doesn't really bother me as much as it seems to bother other people. But her and her mom knew that is what they were signing up for. The other girls signed up for a dance documentary and then were trapped having to perform and work with a teacher that was yelling insults at them. Save for Melissa, I don't think the other moms would've joined the series if they knew what it would be like before hand. It's okay for Jojo to not be bothered by that style of teaching but not okay to not realize the different circumstances.
@@new0news that was really thought out and well said 👏
And so does Jojo. Leave her alone. She is just expressing her feelings about her experience as well
the girls def have a groupchat without jojo 😭
Wouldn't be surprised cuz if i was them I would too!
Feel like she's that one friend who tries to tag along and can't take the hint that everyone secretly dislike her
Jojo was groomed to perpetuate the toxicity.
yup. it sucks with the victims become the abusers.
I hope she comes to her senses someday.
Exactly if you have seen the show and JoJo’s mother. She is definitely her mother’s daughter. Loves to start unnecessary sh*t.
@@moriahmcgill3687 At this point I feel like Jojo is doing all of this stuff for attention, I mean that's obvious. But I just can't believe she's dumb enough to think she's ACTUALLY doing something with her rebrand and shit.
No jojo is just horrible and selfish Maddie didn’t become like her nor Kenzie so no excuse
Well JoJo has become a mini Abbey.
trueee with what she’s been doing to the xomg pop girls
Both can't dance 😂
Literally
@@Jennchannel24Oh no. She can be stopped just wait. They always fall.
So sad
Jojo just thinks about herself as always
Yeah she doesn’t care about the others her selfish actions are putting her popularity in the downfall
Then she defend those who abuse others
@@derrickjuinoryeah I mean she makes a big deal about the others girls not coming and being mad at them for not good reason its ridiculous she just likes Abby
She’s always been that way since she was a kid
@@xchel715 Yep she really has no chill
You can see the confidence in Nia that Holly helped shape. They are so genuine. Holly will always be my favorite mom from the show.
Nia's confidence and honesty is so admirable.
Loveee Nia
They always made themselves a victim of their race.
Holly still had Nia do the show even after all the awful things Abby did to the children. Holly might be more well spoken than the rest, but she was no better.
FR!
Y’all forget that Abby was like overtly racist to Nia. So why would she want to come back.
I feel like people villainize Maddie wayyy too much
100%
I think it’s more so that people are protective of the other girls because Maddie was the favorite…. But that’s still weird because like this all happened 10 years ago and all the girls have trauma from Abby.
She’s a scapegoat for them and it’s so sad. She doesn’t talk bad about them, she literally just minds her own business and they’re all so bothered for some reason
ikr people forget she was like 8 lol
@@snappiepappie9899that and she was fed lines by producers
Jojo saying it's okay because people like Abby are normal in Hollywood, is just rationalizing the person Jojo herself became and the people she chooses to associate with like Colleen. Gross behavior.
Exactly, of course she thinks it's okay because she's surrounded by toxic people and grown up in it and around it so it's normal to her. Disappointing but not surprised
Love Nia's response. Good for her!
Ya agree
Nias response was EVERYTHING i love her sm
She has that Black Girl Magic.
And shes a GORGEOUS WOMAN NOW so proud of her
If I was in Nia, Maddie or Mackenzie’s position , I wouldn’t want to do the reunion either
like would you go back to the place where it affected you badly? i wouldn't either even if its civil by then
Especially for Maddie, she'd have to sit there and pretend her trauma wasn't real and be made to feel like the other girl's trauma is part her fault. I wouldn't have went either and listen to all of Jojo's wrong opinions 😂
im sorry but why would melissa invite jojo and kalani to paige's surprise bd party(?, they never met paige, they were not paige's friends, and im sorry but christi saying jojo is a threat to maddie and kenzie is just pure delusion, jojo's career is not being an actress like maddie, she does not write her songs like kenzie, how is she a threat? I've listen to some of the episodes of back to the barre (the christi and kelly podcast) and the way christi talks about the zieglers is just pure bitterness even after all of these years
PS: Forgot to mention, kira and kalani are so quick to point the fingers at melissa, and also quick to forgot melissa literally "babysat" kalani for several weeks in season 6 when kira was pregnant and took legal guardianship of her so that kalani could continue dancing, and now all of the sudden she is a bad person? Give me a break
Cristi just fed into jojis ego 🤮
PREACHHHHHHHHH
The whole party situation is so dumb anyways due to Maddie hosting the party at her house but Nia was the one who actually planned it.
@@imoniann2543 I mean either way why should Jojo or kalani be there I mean isn't kalani part of the reason Brooke and Paige left also Jojo never even met them so why should they be there and kirah can shut the hell up because the amount of times Melissa took care of kalani makes me wonder if kirah even parents her and kirah still has the audacity to say that Melisa always wants drama is insane.
exactly
Nia has always been so mature and her response was amazing. It’s sad Jojo was manipulated by her mom and Abbey but it doesn’t excuse her behavior. I’m so happy Chloe is beginning to heal!
JoJo is always fighting for the wrong people
Yeah and she’s just blames the victims she’s is a victim blamer
Melissa didn't even organize the party. It was Nia, confirmed by Melissa and Holly
❤😅
It's so bizarre that Jojo seems to believe that everyone owes Abbie something. It's possible for a person to both present opportunities and also have a horrible personality 👀
I think jojo sees herself in Abbie. I think her way of dealing with Abbie was to be like her Weather to protect herself as a kid or just because she's they away she (and her mum is). It really shows with how she treated xomgpop. If she admitted Abbie was abusive she would have to admit her oun behaviour is abusive.
melissa literally has such a close relationship with paige and brooke, of course she would throw her a party when they’re all in LA. it’s not a conspiracy that it “happened to be the night before”, it’s just…the best time to do it cuz everyone’s in the same place (i don’t think brooke and paige live in LA, and i know kendall goes to college on the east coast)
Christi needs to drop the grudge at this point. It's really vindictive at this point and it was cruel to compare Jojo's success to Maddie and Kenzie's when they're just as successful
Ikr, and it was just at their house. I heard Nia actually organised this party which makes sense cause she lives like a block away
@@PGOumawell they’re definitely not as successful but it doesn’t matter. They are in different fields. And there’s no threat they are all adults and can handle things like adults and should be able the accept things they way they are. They’re not petty 12 year olds. Plus I think it’s better to be famous as a teen/adult actress and or musician than as a kid magnet bc while it may make more money, it’s also a short lived career whereas Maddie can keep doing this for another 20 years. Jojo is a falling star right now. 2-3 years from now she may be forgetten she’s already a meme and walking disaster now
Jojo is so weird defending Abby, she also defended Colleen after her pedo accusations. She defends these really problematic women and sees no problem with it.
This is horrible to assume, but I wonder if she got taken advantage of when little by a woman. She does all these mental gymnastics to defend the abuser
I think the reason jojo was not really affected by abby was because she approached the show as a cast member perspective.
@sowhat1674 Or she is continuing the cycle if abuse. To admit it's wrong is to admit she is wrong.
It's not too weird if you look at the bigger picture. She came on the show later on so she knew what she was getting into, she left the show after 2 seasons to pursue another opportunity thus not having the full years long Abby experience like the OG girls did, because she dealt with Abby in her formative years she views people like Abby as normal thus normalizing the toxic people she associates with. Her mom definitely helped normalize it by allowing her to be around these types of people too. Think about it. Every single person or friend she defends has some horrible controversy or are groomers or just outright act toxic. It's all normal for her and she can't see it differently. She won't ever see it differently until she finally has the epiphany and works to unpack her whole childhood experience in therapy.
Plus, we can see she's emotionally stunted to some degree. Her idea of being "bad" or adult is to keep telling everyone how adult she is now while wearing a bunch of bedazzled outfits like she's still her 12 year old self then playfully hunching another dancer in a music video. Her response to Tana Mongeau when her feelings were hurt was to send a passive aggressive text rather than telling Tana how she felt directly. Then talked about her behind her back on a podcast letting her other friend call Tana a bitch.
If you look at all of her behavior over time and place it all together it makes a lot of sense that she would defend Abby.
@@Ashbrash1998 I actually believe that jojo and her mom don't see anything wrong with it. They approach this from a business perspective to build jojo's career.
that‘s a wild thing to even consider. plus she also defends james charles who is a man. she doesn‘t have a full education and questionable morals not unsurprising given how she grew up.
jojo normalising abbys abuse and saying it taught her how to deal with hollywood is absurd. no child at that age or anyone in that matter deserves to be treated the way these girls were. and after years her and her mom both abused little kids on their own show. honestly ridiculous. someone please get her off of social media.
Absolutely. There is no excuse for Jojo at this point. I had a horseback instructor growing up, who was just like Abbey. She would scream at us, call us stupid, and so on. I would absolutely not defend her to *anyone* , let alone national tv.
It's such a bad take, considering Hollywood's reputation with child actors
Yes it shows how delusional she is
What abuse lmao
@@tekgid433 she mentally abused the girls on xomg pop a girl group her mom and her created
sry but i feel like this reunion would’ve been sm better with just brooke, paige, chloe, and kendall -
well they can’t just be like “no, i don’t want you on the reunion” if ppl say they’re gonna be on the reunion. also kendall isn’t even an OG.
@@daniedits9030 Kendall was she was on the show for a long time. She is OG adjacent
Kendall backstabbed the girls who didn't show up and immediately had something negative to say about them so she can go too
And kalani
Kalani being there is Fine, She's Not that Bad as JoJo IMO.
jojo drama, what a surprise.
None of the original dancers should have to feel grateful for anything! They worked their childhood butts off both physical and emotionally. In my opinion earned everything they have from the show.
Jojo's the type to think "It didn't happen to me so that means it couldn't possibly be true." But it _did_ happen to her. She just doesn't realize it yet.
jojo actually needs to pipe the fuck down
lol yes fr, she gives her input on things she doesn’t need to give her input on, and she steals moments that aren’t hers…
To be honest, I'm kinda glad maddie and kenzie weren't there because I feel like their presence would have overshadowed a lot of the other girls, not on purpose ofc but I feel like the producer's would have filmed and edited it in that way or purposely try to create more drama and tension. But idk just my thoughts.
No you're so right ! It was just better they sit it out, damned if they do damned if they don't.
Kira would sell her daughter to the highest bidder… noone cares about her thoughts towards the other children and their choices. Outrageous for her to try to make her opinion relevant
😂 yes ur so right
I wish Camryn was there tbh I would love to see her drag Kira cuz that vile women BULLIED HER at such a young age when I saw a video she made abt her I realized Kira just sucks 🤷♂️ she was mean and has been mean to many kids and Sarah/brynn is also an exemple of her being a bully
@@emt07fr. she’s a see u next tuesday
Is anyone shocked about how Jojo is acting anyone…. anyone. My heart goes out to the girls who didn’t want to come back bc if you don’t feel comfortable putting yourself in that environment again then that is absolutely your right.
Jojo is so aggressive for no reason. It's her whole personality.
Let's be honest, Siwa is a D-List nobody.
Fun fact, Jojo actually disregarded Christi saying that Gia was horrible to her and Chloe by saying ‘oh, well when I was there after you guys left, she was never mean to me’ … 😃
Lmao it prepared Jojo for her life of emotionally and physically abusing young performers. Shes happy to carry on Abbys Legacy for her.
jojo drama, what a surprise
Over her
That's what keeps her career alive.
I cannot stand how it's constantly thrown around like these rivalries were Maddie's doing. It was Abby. Maddie didn't change the score cards, Maddie didn't move the pictures around on the pyramid. Maddie was a puppet for a bunch of adults and then her friends felt bad because of situations Maddie was put in, and then the moms are blaming her like this nine year old was calling all the shots. Even now, they're all in their 20s and so much of that reunion was still talking about Maddie like she was a shitty friend and a backstabber, when she was just doing what she was told and was just trying to dance
I wish they invited other girls cause Camryn danced at the superbowl & toured with Usher & Kendrick Lamar. Autumn Miller was on tour with Beyoncé.
She’s booked and busy
Autumn wasn't on DM?
@@taydream Lmaoooo omg I thought she was a guest or did I mix her up with Sophia?🤣
KENDAL IS NOT AN OG!!! I repeat Kendal is not an OG🙄
Exactly. Ms, Candy Apples
Thank you!!!
She didn't have a problem stabbing the zieglers in the back either. Shut up girl.
I lost all my respect for JoJo. Matter of fact, I've been lost my respect for JoJo. She never cares about anyone but herself. She always thinks that everything that Abby did was normal. That's not normal!!? That's ABUSE!! and then she has the audacity to shame the three girls who didn't show up. It's optional!! They don't have to come. It's not a big deal but she's making it a big deal. All these girls have trauma, especially Chloe, Brooke, Paige, Maddie, Mackenzie, Nia and Kendall (Correct me if I'm wrong respectfully please). She's the most problematic person ever and I can't stand her. This whole reunion she made me mad bro. They all went through so much in the past and she has no respect for any of them. Unbelievable....
preachhh
3:17 her saying “I just didn’t want to go” is enough of an explanation. She doesn’t owe us a damn thing. She doesn’t owe those people a damn thing. She set a boundary leave her be.
Jojo seems like a watered down version of Natalie nunn…Just clinging on to past fame…Idk maybe it’s just me
That’s a good comparison
No you’re 100% correct lmao
I feel like Jojo is Abby Lee 2.0
watching that clip of Nia reminded me why I've always loved her and Holly. They are both so emotionally mature and I've always loved how Holly would always stand up to Abby for those kids! unproblematic queens👑💗
Maddie has literally stated she has PTSD from the time she spent on the show. of course she's not gonna be at the reunion jfc
Jojo is a pick me girl, it’s infuriating
Finally the word being used right
Jojo defends predators. Literally. How does she still have a platform?!
Bc even worse those predators still have a platform. Unfortunately it will never stop. All we can do is diminish it but not extinguish it
Jojo sticks out so much when she's sitting with the other girls. Her outfit, body language, and overall vibe were a stark contrast to the others.
Jojo is what grooming and brainwashing can do to a child without therapy.
“The victim usually, becomes the abuser”
Like Chevy Chase
The victim absolutely does not “usually” become an abuser. There is a cycle of abuse but that’s not the only reason people become abusive. Some people just only care about themselves and put what they want over harm to other people, not because they have trauma or mental illness, but because people are not made the same and have different world views that allow them to justify abuses others to themselves.
People with trauma and mental illness are more likely to be abused than abusive.
I agree like why would jojo & Kalanie (idk how to spell her name so don't come at me) would be invited when Chloe, Paige & Brooke left the show before they even joined 🤦🏾♀️ like I wouldn't want people I don't know at my party 🙄 & I don't blame any of the girls that didn't show up cuz I pro would do the same thing if I was them 🤷🏾♀️ (honestly om very surprised that Chloe Paige & Brooke even showed up idk why I just do)
Nia maddie and Kenzie don’t owe anyone an explanation for anything! It’s their choice so why is jojo being so butthurt like what if jojo was on the other side… she wouldn’t like it either
the problem i have is that this was produced by the same people who caused some of the trauma these girls have. of course they probably couldn't speak freely and i wouldn't be surprised if it came out that abby orchestrated the whole reunion. and kalani and jojo being mad that they weren't invited to a party for a girl they either never met or barely know is so audacious and just shows how out of touch both of them are. what i did like was hearing how chloe has started healing from this and that she is so strong and confident now, she was always the reason i watched dance moms growing up. i like that the o.g. girls are still really close even after everything and seem to have a stronger bond than when the show first started. of course kalani and jojo aren't going to be included because they knew what they were getting into, they worked with abby on audc before joining the main show.
I don't think that Abby was involved, she was mad that they were using so many clips with her in it without her permission (shows how out of touch she is seeing as they own the footage, not her). A couple of the girls said that they wouldn't do the reunion if Abby was there and apparently the producers asked JoJo to facetime Abby during filming and JoJo refused (Abby was in the UK when this was filmed)
At Least Kalani isn't as Problematic as JoJo in terms of How Much Controversy she Creates.
Jojo and kalani proving maddie, kenzi and nia’s point by creating drama out of nothing and trying to control other people’s narratives. Not surprised at all lmao
They villianize the Ziegler's wayyy too much. It's giving bitter.
Jojo and Kalani not being invited kinda makes sense bc the OG girls (except for Kendall) knew eachother since they were like 2. It’s more than just friendship, it’s a sisterhood. Jojo and Kalani don’t know the Hylands. Also, why would they want to invite people that are actively choosing to be in contact with the person that hurt them the most. Imagine how awkward and annoying that meeting would be
Why is JoJo even considered an OG if she was only on for one season? So why was she even invited to go? What about the other girls who was on for longer then JoJo
Mia is so sweet. She's so humble and genuine. It's sad how she has to preface any statement by asking not to turn it into drama 😕
Kendall is kinda an OG but not really so i was confused when she walked with Chloe Paige and Brooke when she’s not an OG. Plus, Kendall also said the same thing that JoJo and Kalani said and liked JoJo’s shady instagram caption. Like Kendall literally went through sm trauma just like Paige, Brooke and Chloe so why is she throwing shade?
She's jealous of Maddie. Her liked comment shows that
@@PGOuma wait what liked comment
@@PGOuma Exactly
Christi and Melissa are on good terms now, so her saying all that stuff just feels so coached and fake. Sad to see these producers are STILL trying to divide the Lukasiaks and the Zieglers 🙄
Jojo needs to mind her own business. Those girls are women now and perfectly within their right to protect their peace. Heaven knows it wasn't protected when they were children.
Not Chloe’s mother Christy getting into the mess and stirring the pot 😂😂😂
Go Nia always and forever will be on the top of my pyramid ❤❤
I just noticed, two of the OG girls had the same dress on! They look so cute 🥰 besties
Jojo and Kalani are both being such pick-mes. Ofc we all expected it from Jojo, but Kalani must just be bitter that she’s just a basic ass dance teacher now, while Maddie’s in movies and Kenzie is a full blown musician. They didn’t even know Paige, the Ziegler’s threw Paige a surprise party, why would they be invited? Them saying that the Ziegler’s were just trying to make headlines is sooo hypocritical.
If you watched the show, Christi also agreed with them as well when Kelly faced time her. You can tell she still has bitterness towards Melissa as the other mom’s and Kelly
@@justsochelsea And why did she compare Jojo's success to Maddie and Kenzie's?? They're just as successful (and aren't becoming a mini Abby) and she's just proving Abby's point that she WAS jealous of the Ziegler kids because the grudge she has against Melissa is vindictive at this point. And I hate how Chloe agrees with her mom about Melissa's intentions.
@@justsochelsea 100% agree. She’s fsfs still bitter about the opportunities Melissa’s girls were given over Chloe. I think Chloe was treated so unfairly by Abby, she did not ever deserve the cruelty. But Christi acting as if she wouldn’t have done the same damn thing as Melissa if Chloe was the star dancer instead of Maddie is despicable.
@@PGOuma this!!!! The whole world HATES Jojo rn too which is soooo funny. Success where? Play stupid games win stupid prizes ig.
She's not a basic dance teacher. You need to watch your wording and what you comment about people.
Jojo has so much to say for someone who wasn't on the show for a long time
It says a lot about Jojo that she’s ok with cruelty towards others.
An exploitative, abusive show with child members who were being parade around in insult and hate, mostly by abbey, not surprised it made an egoistical, rude jojo siwa who values her image first and others never. I have full respect and understanding for the dancers who didnt attend the reunion for their better health
Christi has always been soooo jealous of Melissa and her kids its ridiculous. Shes so bitter even after all these years. Also when rhey did the OG panel, why was Kendall there?? Shes not an OG. It should have just been Chloe, Brooke, ans Paige.
I like Christi, I always thought there was something a little shifty about Melissa. That was just my take.
@@calamity716how you feel about Melissa is how I always felt about that evil bitch Christi, glad to see she's the same bitter person
It is so incredibly frustrating to see Jojo's mindset of "if its true for me then its true for everyone else." She can't seem to understand that everyone is different. You can see it in her behavior on The Reunion, but also in how she treated her own pop group! 😮💨
Nia's hairstyle in that clip is freakin awesome !!
Jojo feels like a mild case of Stockholm syndrome happening right in front of us
Jojo talked too much then and she talks too much now. The girl has literally learned nothing.
How come no one ever mentions Brynn? Shouldn’t she also be included in the reunion?
The OG moms who did season 7 probably weren’t happy that Ashlee went back to Abby and were calling the girls hookers for The Last Dance.
Ok let’s be real here the only reason why Abby still keeps in touch with Jojo is because she’s super famous and rich now. They are both using each other for clout.
There I said it lol
I’m mad that Abby Lee is not trapped in prison today for her child abused over the years
Look at the non OGs having the BIGGEST mouths 🙄🙄🙄
Kendall’s lip filler is too much
It’s definitely a tad excessive. I’m pretty sure all her sisters have it too
Unfortunately most people who get fillers get too much. It makes me so sad just love what God gave you. If you absolutely need it don't do too much a little goes a long way and can be very beautiful.
she for lip filler?…
That's her body, so don't be coming on here talking about what she does to her face.
@@ALT1308_LMAO.
"ungrateful for what the show gave them" yeah, the show gave them deep trauma jojo, I wouldnt wanna be grateful for that either.
Someone needs to see who those producers were and keep them away from reality TV
Exactly why are they still even working with them
Not the producers claiming the chaos and emotional abuse isn’t what the show was supposed to be about in the beginning when they’ve literally admitted in the past that the first moment that made them realize they wanted the show was when Abby screamed at a mom and degraded her daughter calling her stupid, called the cops, and expelled the kid all because she was WEARING SOCKS
Like mother like daughter! Go nia!!!
the reunion was bad....they never called out the producers or anything...just looked back on moments...but they all do that already on their socials..were i feel like they were more honest..
Apparently, the ones who filmed the reunion were also the OG producers, which might be why the girls never really went off or were more open
I felt the same way about them showing the footage of abby being sick,,,,, they were definetily trying to make certain girls feel bad
Damn that’s crazy thinking Brooke and Paige didn’t know Jojo. They were lucky.
Nia had college finals WHY SHOULD SHE HAVE TO GO TO THE REUNION;!
Jojo has seen everything that happened and still sides with Abby. She just needs to hush. Stop diminishing the traumatizing experiences of others.
Brooke is so absolutely stunning.
Nia’s so over it LOL she seems beyond ready to give it a rest and move on . Those moms owe their own daughters an apology aswell . Some one those moms LOVED being on tv too much . There’s something up with Christy for sure LOL she was so weird towards Maddie when she was little
YOU NOTICED THAT TOO
Jojo trying to tell the girls how they feel. 😒 Smh
There was just this huge Abby apologist vibe that was icky. Starting from the very beginning implying Melissa is just So manipulative and Maddie and Kenzie are always saying they aren't grateful for what DM has given them in their current lives (which isn't true) and was being purposefully manipulative when it came to Paige's birthday party the night before (like Jojo and Kalani didn't really overlap with Paige)
They brought up so many traumas and then asked if they'll ever talk to Abby again.
Literally having Jojo there. (She did not come away from this looking good)
Nia was treated the worst.. Maddie and mckenzie was the favorite. Nia had to deal with way more shit than Maddie.
That’s true but it still doesn’t diminish what they went through. Even though others trauma isn’t as great as your doesn’t mean they don’t have their own trauma too. ❤
I am so sick of JoJo.
Jojo's such a clout chaser
Nah I’m sorry I don’t like any of the moms. To put your child through literal abuse that affects them throughout their lives for a check? They could have left or not renew their contracts but they didn’t care about the mental wellbeing of their daughters as long as they were getting paid.
christi is waaaay too hateful towards maddie.. you can tell she still holds such strong resentment and even on the show she’d try to say it’s not about maddie but made no effort to protect her from her remarks as an actual child
like no one cares about jojos career her audience is children 😭
Yall talking about the racism. I wanna remind yall Nia has a disorder that turns her stress into physical pain. There’s an episode where it’s in her feet from the stress Abby put on her. That’s a lot for a kid
Jojo defended Colleen so it's not surprising that she would defend Abby.
And it’s sad that people defend jojo
Wasn’t there also racism allegations on the show ? Why would she want to return …
Yes, you're 100 percent correct. There were racism allegations (more like NOT allegations)
Jojo is so irratating. You have Nia who faced a lot of racism on the show. Why would she want to come back to that environment
Even jojo was mistreated so why is it hard for her to grasp that ppl dont want to come back that
JoJo is an obnoxious mess that did not experience the trauma that some did. Abby was a monster to several of the girls, Nia and Chloe in particular were treated horribly. Over the seven years that this show was taping we saw Abby literally beat the joy of dancing out of Brooke, Paige, Chloe, Nia, Maddie and Mackenzie. JoJo was only there for two seasons and bounced before Abby could screw her up!
Am I the only one who wonders what happened or JoJo's dog?
Probably died...
Guys remember DO NOT trust what you see!!!! These producers always set things up like this for drama. Kalani is usually so classy and respectful so why is she so angry with Melissa all of a sudden? Same with Christi she's calmed down a lot over the years and Melissa and her are on good terms so I don't believe that scene was real at all