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  • Continuing to learn about the lore of Elden Ring from Vaati. This time the Demigods. To see all of our Elden Ring reactions check out this playlist • FromSoftware Games Rea...
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  • @warhammertrash1626
    @warhammertrash1626 Год назад +543

    Fun fact: Mohg is actually the one who kidnapped Miquella, seeking to use the Empyrean blood of his half-brother to fashion his own dynasty of gods, possibly even having been accidently bewitched by Miquella's enchanting aura. His palace of blood lays directly below Caelid... Radahn's domain, and the sight where Radahn and Malenia had their fateful battle, so there's a common theory that Malenia knew WHERE Miquella was, but not who took him, bringing her into conflict with her stepbrother and ultimately leading to the fate of everyone involved. And where better for a Lord of Blood to build his palace than under a warzone, where it can all trickle down and empower him? It's my theory that Mohg is one of the biggest masterminds in the whole story, who often goes overlooked in analysis of the greater events of the story.

    • @MiguelSanchezDelVillar
      @MiguelSanchezDelVillar Год назад +73

      I remember reading a description that said that Mogh planted fake clues that pointed to Radhan to weaken the 2 most powerful demygods

    • @nosir7882
      @nosir7882 Год назад +38

      Wasn’t Miquella taken by Mohg after Malenia left? That’s why Mohg was able to take him to begin with.

    • @isaacdayton4962
      @isaacdayton4962 Год назад +18

      @@nosir7882this is correct. I don’t know what they are talking about

    • @MiguelSanchezDelVillar
      @MiguelSanchezDelVillar Год назад +2

      @@nosir7882 i think he did It while was sleepin

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Год назад +38

      Mohg the puppet master 😯

  • @SyxxPunk
    @SyxxPunk Год назад +45

    Malenia considers Miquela to be the most fearsome of demi-gods.
    If there's a DLC where we get to fight him, I would be terrified of what that would be like.

    • @pratiksengupta5336
      @pratiksengupta5336 Год назад +1

      Fearsome doesn't mean strongest.

    • @Danganraptor
      @Danganraptor Год назад +13

      Miquella isn't blessed with might, but with mind.
      That, and I doubt FromSoft would make us fight a (demigod with the appearance of a) child.

    • @fakeblue8985
      @fakeblue8985 Год назад +4

      @@Danganraptor imagine fighting a prime adult miquella, now that would be scary

    • @Danganraptor
      @Danganraptor Год назад +1

      @@fakeblue8985 And near impossible, considering his curse. That said, it'd be interesting to see how they'd impliment his charisma into his boss fight.

    • @fakeblue8985
      @fakeblue8985 Год назад

      @@Danganraptor It would almost certainly never happen, although he did almost break the curse (just take a look at the size of him in the egg) and I'd assume that the whole "charisma" thing would probably be something to prevent the player from just getting up in his face and absolutely wailing on him, considering that it's an aura he exudes

  • @zielj5131
    @zielj5131 Год назад +1

    Please please watch the prepare to cry series its actually amazing. i recommend the lord of frenzied flame to start it feels like a story not just a lore dump.

  • @jeremiahemery9627
    @jeremiahemery9627 Год назад +1

    I REALLY enjoy these longer lore videos, I'd like to see more!😁😁👍

  • @fnafking4154
    @fnafking4154 Год назад

    You should check out this video that’s all about the omen curse, the misbegotten and a specific ending of the game: VaatiVidya’s Prepare to cry: The blessing of Despair

  • @Frostbite08
    @Frostbite08 Год назад +155

    Malenia is considered the toughest boss because she heals herself every time she hits you, and as you saw, she has one attack that can hit you like 12 times in about 4 seconds.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Год назад +38

      Oh damn 😯😨😱

    • @jacthing1
      @jacthing1 Год назад +3

      ​​@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames you should react to her boss fight...also for reference, I've not beaten her yet and I've fought her over at least 20 times maybe even thirty. And I don't always get her down below half health

    • @himynameismike
      @himynameismike Год назад +3

      @@jacthing1 Took me about 50~ to beat her my first time. What helped me was that I never hyperfocused on beating her, I mean, I was never going at it full brute force trying to win at any cost. I just wanted to learn how to deal with her moves, so dying never frustrated me. And boy, let me tell ya, it's such a rush when you can consistently dodge Waterfowl Dance. At some point it legit becomes a choreography, I bet that's how Let Me Solo Her must feel.

    • @Lyko5
      @Lyko5 Год назад +3

      and yet, fromsoft went ahead and made her rune to be the most useless...

  • @corvus9627
    @corvus9627 Год назад +85

    34:35 Radahn is actually also known as the "Starscourge" which is just as cool a title in my opinion

  • @Waltarwhiet
    @Waltarwhiet Год назад +211

    One thing I really like about from software's characters is that rarely do we get characters that are pure good or pure evil.
    The majority of characters are morally grey and have their own faults and redeeming qualities.
    However when we do get pure evil villians in souls games, they're really damn good!
    Like Pontiff Sulyvahn from dark souls or Mohg in elden ring.

    • @moonrabbit2334
      @moonrabbit2334 Год назад +33

      Pontiff was such an ass with his combos as is Mogh with his Delayed roll catch and f-king Heal

    • @Waltarwhiet
      @Waltarwhiet Год назад +23

      @@moonrabbit2334 pontiff was hard, but after ER and it's bosses, he was a piece of cake
      As for Mohg, I love the fight. I think he's one of the very few fights where delayed attacks make sense, because instead of seeming like the boss is just holding his attack, Mohg looks like he's having a hard time swinging that massive weapon.

    • @Sezenian
      @Sezenian Год назад +16

      @@Waltarwhiet nihil, Nihil, NIHIL!!!

    • @1asts1eep
      @1asts1eep Год назад

      Mohg is a pure evil?

    • @dirtydeeds576
      @dirtydeeds576 Год назад +14

      @@1asts1eep can’t name a single positive thing Moghs done. Built a dynasty around killing Maidens and other tarnished, kidnapped Miquella and ditched the golden order which may or may not be evil depending on how you look at it

  • @thanedynamo8434
    @thanedynamo8434 Год назад +113

    Given that George R.R Martin wrote the lore of the game with director Hidetaka Miyazaki, the idea of a Game of Thrones-style adaptation is an interesting one. Just imagine a medieval/mythological socio-political thriller with these living legends, covering the events from the coronation of Marika, through the Shattering, right up to the summoning of the Tarnished that begins the game.
    It does conflict with the environmental storytelling that gives these games their identity, but of all the games FromSoftware has gifted us, Elden Ring might be easiest to adapt (that or Sekiro). Like how Fire and Blood exists in relation to A Song of Ice and Fire.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Год назад +11

      Wonder if that was part of the reason for bringing in GRRM 🤔😀

    • @thanedynamo8434
      @thanedynamo8434 Год назад

      @Definitely Not Definitive - Games It's quite possible. Soulsborne is known for having so many multi-layered characters reminiscent of those in Martin's work, so for such an ambitious project (their first open world game), working with a renowned author of similar style is a logical choice that worked so well.

    • @adrielic_
      @adrielic_ Год назад +2

      If an adaptation were really to take place BEFORE the events of the game, as you said, from the coronation to the Shattering, I don't see the obvious lack of enviromental storytelling being a problem. Since it's telling something we didn't actually see it happening and events that surely holds the interest of everyone who played the game, that would be fantastic. However, if they'd opt to adapt the the main journey of from the game, with the Tarnished being the protagonist, I don't see how it could work and we'd feel the lack of enviromental storytelling much more.

    • @Stefan-xt5sk
      @Stefan-xt5sk Год назад +3

      I enjoyed Dark Souls and Elden Ring for the exploration, challenge and a vague "weird factor", but I could never connect with the story at all because the presentation was so scattered and impersonal. Seeing an attempted adaptation in a non-interactive medium would be interesting, even if I probably wouldn't enjoy it.

    • @thanedynamo8434
      @thanedynamo8434 Год назад +3

      @i That is a good point. I think it's the enduring mysteries (e.g. Miquella, the exact nature of Marika-Radagon's duality) in some of the lore that made me feel like an adaptation would be a challenge, but imagination is a powerful thing in the right direction, and it's still possible, even best, to leave some things a mystery while telling a strong narrative.

  • @internaut4257
    @internaut4257 Год назад +85

    Radahn is an absolute badass, and fighting him was the most glorious battle ive ever taken part in

  • @theinspiredgamer1949
    @theinspiredgamer1949 Год назад +53

    *LONG POST WARNING*
    Ranni is my favorite of the demigods in Elden Ring (followed by Malenia, because I am also an older sibling), and her ending is perhaps the only ending that can be described as the "good" ending in Elden Ring (the others are either kind of anticlimactic or just plain evil).
    Ranni's quest involves the player choosing to enter her service to help her achieve her destiny, which involves severing her connection to the Greater Will and freeing her from its influence. That's why she placed her soul into the body of a doll and had her body killed, so her actions would be entirely her own. Part of this quest has you traveling with the doll that contains Ranni's soul, and you learn that she actually cares deeply for the people around her, mainly Blaidd (basically her bodyguard) and Iji (the troll blacksmith at 12:20), but she feels like she's being forced to walk this path alone. That is, until she meets you.
    At the end of her quest line, Ranni has successfully killed her own set of Two Fingers (every demigod has one) and freed herself of the Greater Will's control. In a secret bit of dialogue (that was actually mistranslated from Japanese, so here's the true meaning), she says that her plan is to free The Lands Between from the influence of all the Outer Gods, creating a new Age of Stars that will eventually allow mortals to choose their own fate rather than be at the mercy of an Outer God. After finishing the game, Ranni proclaims that she's going on a thousand-year voyage across the stars, and she invites you to come with her, saying, "Well then. Shall we? My fair consort eternal." But if you experience that secret dialogue, she will instead say, "Let us go together. My dear consort eternal." In the end, Ranni no longer is forced to walk this path alone. She will set the world free from the gods and embark on a voyage across the stars with the man/woman she loves (at least, if you interpret it that way, which I do).
    So, yeah. This was my super long way of describing how the best ending in Elden Ring is the one where you marry a witch, banish the gods from the world, and go on a voyage through space. If you actually stuck around, thank you for taking the time to read this! It means a lot!

    • @greekjohn1998
      @greekjohn1998 Год назад +5

      Isn't the whole undeath Ranni's fault? Killing her brother who was a hero to all and because of that caused everyone to suffer?

    • @willowhealy453
      @willowhealy453 Год назад +8

      @@greekjohn1998 the entire circumstances of that are unclear, she absolutely did set it up but there are plenty of theories that marika was behind all that, and if the reading is that she is trying to rid the lands between of the influence of outer gods then it could have all been a part of her plan to eventually exile the greater will, it kind of depends on lots of other context which can be viewed in v different ways, i think ranni is just extremely pragmatic and wants freedom for all things at any cost, even if that cost is killing her brother and causing the deathblight

    • @greekjohn1998
      @greekjohn1998 Год назад +2

      @@willowhealy453 Well, she does want freedom but for herself only from the greater will, she wants to have the stars and moon to rule maybe with her as a God, quite different than having no outer gods influence. Miquela is the one who wants the no outer gods influence. As for Marika, it's only implied, but I think that theory does have a strong foundation. But we need more lore on Marika to know for certain.

    • @Crispifordthe3rd515
      @Crispifordthe3rd515 Год назад

      Yeah, that's why you like them lol

    • @raidenxt8737
      @raidenxt8737 Год назад +2

      @@greekjohn1998 undeath was a side effect of ranni's plans. it only caused some to suffer if their revival got corrupted. everyone graced by the erdtree is technically immortal, as their souls are bound and they will revive due to the erdtree. with the destruction of the erdtree, those who live in death are also freed, and ranni gets to banish the golden outer god

  • @rampantfantasy1181
    @rampantfantasy1181 Год назад +40

    I always love Beth's takes on these things. i completely agree, Miyazaki just has a way of making these characters so incredibly interesting through literally just backstory and item descriptions.
    Miquella is definitely my favorite. to me it seems like he was "the guy" to fix everythinh before he got kidnapped by Mohg

  • @freewillgeorge
    @freewillgeorge Год назад +41

    Radahn is cool, but i gotta love the tragedy of Morgott and Malenia. Honestly there aint a bad one in the line up save maybe Rykard (although he's still entertaining)

    • @Danganraptor
      @Danganraptor Год назад +4

      *ahem*
      Mohg exists. I'd say he's pretty bad.

    • @freewillgeorge
      @freewillgeorge Год назад

      @@Danganraptor Mogh is pretty bad, but at least I can sympathise with him given the whole 'locked up in the sewers for daring to be born wrong' thing

    • @Danganraptor
      @Danganraptor Год назад

      @@freewillgeorge You know he also "shared every inch of his bedchamber" with Miquella, right?

    • @freewillgeorge
      @freewillgeorge Год назад

      @@Danganraptor didn't say he's a good dude, just that I can at least sympathise :P

    • @Danganraptor
      @Danganraptor Год назад

      @@freewillgeorge I can't.

  • @Potato96780
    @Potato96780 Год назад +13

    Always find it so cool Radahn held back all the stars in the galaxy

  • @Anch0rd
    @Anch0rd Год назад +23

    Ranni and Marika are two of the most interesting characters fromsoft has ever created. They're both so entrenched in conspiracy and plotting that most of many major plot points can be linked directly to one or even both of them. Can't wait to see you check out more!

  • @L2PlayJ
    @L2PlayJ Год назад +87

    The theory that Melina is possibly Ranni is a cool one as well. They both have their eyes closed, Ranni having a "twin" that matches Melina. Both are the only ones familiar with Torrent also. Some believe that similar to Radagon and Marika being the same person, Melina and Ranni are also the same.

    • @alicea3421
      @alicea3421 Год назад +1

      Isn't Melina also Marika, or at least partly? - i.e. the offspring of her and Radagon
      Edit: I watched the video, didn't expect it to be mentioned in this one

    • @TalonWren
      @TalonWren Год назад +7

      I believe this theory. Mostly because of their matching but mirrored eye tattoos.

    • @tyrusdalet
      @tyrusdalet Год назад +19

      I think perhaps not her twin, but her reflection. If Ranni is the Dark Moon, icy and cold. Melina is the Sun, she is the kindling, the inferno. And that’s why she hunts you in the Frenzied Flame ending

    • @slevi8746
      @slevi8746 Год назад

      I kinda believe that too because when you first meet Ranni, she requests to see Torrent. Seeing how he stood by Melina (who could be Ranni's former master who influenced Ranni's current puppet), it would make sense that Ranni would request this to ensure that her interactions are with approved/accredited people (being you, the tarnished accredited by torrents trust)

    • @pokimanefartcompilation
      @pokimanefartcompilation Год назад +1

      But Melina opens her other eye during the frenzied flame ending and it's clearly different from Ranni's eye

  • @VitorMouraoddvtr
    @VitorMouraoddvtr Год назад +17

    Lunar princess Ranni has one of the best stories in the game, in my opinions. She, along with Malenia e Miquella are the coolest demigods

  • @biglion4631
    @biglion4631 6 месяцев назад +5

    Radahn is a true Chad.
    When you fight him you can summon 6 NPCs and do so unlimited. He’s fighting all these people while using gravity magic to hold back the starts WHILE using gravity magic to hold his horse up, WHILE ALSO being crazy.
    Fighting him in his prime would be impossible

  • @vergil8833
    @vergil8833 Год назад +24

    The names of the demigods sort of follow a system referring to their parentage. All the children born from Radagon and Rennala have names starting with R, so Ranni, Radahn, and Rykard. The ones of the "true" Golden Lineage born from Marika and Godfrey have "God" in their names. He only talked about Godwyn in this video, but there is also some later decendants called Godefroy and Godrick. The M names are a bit more muddled. They're split between the husbands. Mohg and Morgott being Marika and Godfreys children, while Miquella and Malenia are Marika and Radagons children.
    I like all the demigods and the lore surrounding them, but as someone who has been diving deep in it for a while I think Miquella is the most intriguing to me simply because he is the most mysterious at this moment. I suspect we'll get more of him in an upcoming DLC since he's the only demigod we haven't met. Godwyn is very interesting to me for the same reason, but we know how his story has kind of settled him as a god of death after what happend during the shattering. Godwyn and Miquella have some interesting connections to each other actually despite having different fathers. Miquella refers to Godwyn as his most beloved brother in the description of a golden sword.
    The story there also involves Ranni the Carian Princess alot since she kind of killed Godwyns soul in order to let her own flesh die while her soul remains. Thats why Rannis body is a blue doll, thats the vessel of her soul after she had her own flesh killed in order to escape the influence of the Golden Order. Godwyn died the opposite death as a result of this, his body lived on while his soul perished, turning him into some malformed representation of unnatural death which spreads the death blight throughout the lands. In every corner of the Lands Between you can find the corruption of black roots surrounding stangant water. This is what causes the undead to rise in all the crypts and graveyards.
    Miquella is trying to help his half brother Godwyn die a true death so that the Lands Between can be saved from the spreading blight, just like he's trying to halt his sisters Scarlet Rot so that she might live without turning everything into a rotten hellhole where only insectoid creatures may survive.
    Miquella was doing alot of good things apparently, until he was kidnapped by his other half brother Mohg. Mohg is the omen brother who embraced his cursed blood. His relationship with Miquella is a weird and creepy one, because he wants to make Miquella the new god, but he wants to make sure he himself can be his consort so that he can enforce an Age of Blood in service of his blood god called the Formless Mother. Miquella is seen as a perfect match for this since Miquella is not only cursed with eternal youth, but he is also kind of blessed with abundance.
    Like Vaati mentioned, Miquella watered his great tree with his own blood, he could do that because he apparently has endlessly flowing blood. His statues are depicted with thick veins on his arms to represent this. But thats perfect for a crazy guy who worships bloodloss. Thats the thing about the Formless Mother, she doesn't care about blood alone, she specifically rewards bloodloss.
    So Mohg kidnapped Miquella before Miquella could do all the good things he intended to do. Ever since then Mohg has rested inside the blood of Miquella whos inside his cocoon, it looks kinda like a silk moth cocoon. We haven't seen or heard from Miquella after that since we the player draw Mohg out of there and kill him. Miquella might be very different from how he once was if we meet him in a DLC.
    Miquellas imagry seems to reference the manga Berserk a bit, specifically the character Griffith. But if thats the character they took inspiration from when writing Miquellas story then he definately won't be a good dude when he finally hatches from his cocoon.
    Regarding the Vaati videos, the upcoming ones are my favorites. This one and the previous one are more like history books, while the next ones are more hyperfocused and narrative driven. Speciically "The Warrior Within", "The Lord of the Frenzied Flame", "The Blessing of Despair", and his newest one about the mages like the Carians called "The Lore of the Elden Ring's Cosmic Sorcerers".

    • @carlhausman8157
      @carlhausman8157 Год назад +1

      Slight clarification (I won't go so far as to say correction, I think it just wasn't said clearly)-Godefroy and Godrick were in fact most likely descendants of Godwyn, not direct children of Godfrey and Marika.

    • @vergil8833
      @vergil8833 Год назад +1

      @@carlhausman8157 Indeed, I did refer to them as later decendants, but I guess the previous line made that a bit confusing.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Год назад +2

      Thanks so much for all this info and for helping us with the names as well. 😀 Will be cool to see the next videos if they have more of a narrative feel to them 🙂

  • @theworstcatholic7247
    @theworstcatholic7247 Год назад +10

    For names you can see it as almost a puzzle, one that has a learning curve but once you get, it's easy.
    You've got the G & M Family, also known as the golden lineage.
    Godfrey (The Chad Dad)
    Marika (Goddess Dearest)
    Godwyn (How to train your dragon)
    (Godefrey and Godrick are also members of this lineage but more so decendents, so lesser gods than truly demigods, likely from the naming convention descendants of Godwyn)
    You got the R family.
    Radagon (Pre-fusion of Marika, Daddy)
    Rennala (Mommy, Put all her stats into Int and yet still couldn't see that boy was no good for her.)
    Ranni (Waifu bait simulator, tricking fools to her ending one copy of elden ring at a time for her darkmoon god.)
    Rykard(Fiercest contender to most screwed individual in the game with Mohg. He also likes snakes and blasphemy, and is a real family man.)
    Radahn (Scourge of the stars, the Red Lion, lover of scrawny horses and bestest of bois)
    Then you've got the Empyrean children of R and M
    Marika
    Radagon
    Malenia(Rot Goddess, also known as cosmic STD's)
    Miquella (Very lucifer figure who is beloved by everyone and eternal Jail bait if you ask Mogh)
    and all but confirmed Melina.
    The only one's that really break this naming convention are Mohg and Morgott the omen twins, whom are part of the golden lineage. Other than the omen twins if they got an M to start their name then they're likely Marika + Radagon, if they got a G to start their name it's golden time, if they've got an R to start their name it's Redheads + Goth Witch = the best so fight me.

  • @DefinitivelyNotCthulhu
    @DefinitivelyNotCthulhu Год назад +11

    Miquella is quite a mysterious fella. For example, he’s the only male empyrean that we know of and he’s the only empyrean that doesn’t have a obvious god behind him. My theory is that Malenia’s and Miquella’s births being vulnerable meant that other outer gods influenced their births giving him a similar situation as Malenia. I believe the Outer God influencing his curse is the formless mother but similarly to Malenia, is resisting her influence. Perhaps he also is communicating with another outer god in his sleep, after all cut content shows that him and St. Trina (a patron of sleep with potential connections to the sea) were the same and still share similarities for example both of their flowers are water lilies. My working theory on them is that perhaps they will work like Marika and Radagon as we still know little about Miquella and his personal life.

    • @rickywyness5230
      @rickywyness5230 Год назад

      Miquella is also said to have had a Great Rune shard of the Elden Ring. I think it was called the Great Rune of Abundance.

  • @badwolf6665
    @badwolf6665 Год назад +6

    Would love to see you two react to the prepare to cry about the 'frenzied flame' it's a beautiful video from Vati and I think you'd like it a lot. Great stuff from you guy's as always.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Год назад +1

      Look forward to checking that out 😅

    • @Moschel91
      @Moschel91 Год назад

      Easily one of the best videos he ever made, it's just like watching a movie and covers one of the most interesting storylines of the game.

    • @badwolf6665
      @badwolf6665 Год назад

      It's so haunting and the music mixed with the perfect editing by Vati is amazing. The song of despair is truly great.

  • @rabidrobbie
    @rabidrobbie Год назад +4

    The frustrating similarities of all of the names is how you know that George R. R. Martin wrote for this game. You even named a character from House of the Dragon when you were trying to remember one of the Elden Ring characters.

  • @SoulKingKurosaki
    @SoulKingKurosaki Год назад +13

    Indeed as many pointed out, Elden Ring was created with George R. R. Martin who made Game of Thrones/House of Dragon. And it definitely shows with this game. But Miyazuki deserves praise to cuz he knows how to make characters. This game really is incredible

  • @LethalTigerX
    @LethalTigerX Год назад +1

    I truly recommend a video called "el descenso de elden ring", is a video on Spanish but is one of the best explaining deep elden ring lore

  • @TheSubjectx
    @TheSubjectx Год назад +8

    If you want to see life breathed into some characters, watch the prepare to Cry episode about morgott. It tells his tragic story and gives more humanity to characters.

  • @jdim4628
    @jdim4628 Год назад +6

    I haven’t watched the whole thing yet but I’m scared for when they get to learning about Mohg

    • @Knightlight-kw9sh
      @Knightlight-kw9sh Год назад +3

      He doesn't touch on THAT part of Mohg in this so don't worry

    • @yorukage5926
      @yorukage5926 Год назад +1

      Luckily he only touches on his past not the questionable actions he took

  • @Gamerking430
    @Gamerking430 Год назад +1

    34:42 star killer sounds nice and cool but STARSCOURGE is some ruthless sounding shite imo

  • @Thecarianknight
    @Thecarianknight Год назад +3

    Interesting to see you interested in the elden ring lore even though you havent played the game:-).
    Although it doesnt make that much of a diference;-)

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Год назад +1

      That’s the cool thing. Playing the game doesn’t mean you get and understand all the lore. You still have to break it down and connect it all like Vaati does 🙂

  • @crusader3108
    @crusader3108 2 месяца назад +1

    I think describing elden ring as a text book is actually extremely accurate. Some things are explicitly told, but most are from item descriptions and voice lines, even then the meaning has to be interpreted. Locations also tell a story, but its not said. The environment is a big one, but you have to play and experience by wandering around looking at place names and piecing things together.

  • @Diablogremory2023
    @Diablogremory2023 Год назад +1

    Make a reaction to the cool video from Games Workshop.
    Name of the video: The Goff Rocker - 'Ere We Go (2:42)

  • @darkphoenix1836
    @darkphoenix1836 Год назад +3

    Would love to watch a video of you guys reacting to a compilation of Malenia deaths (someday). Or just all the boss fights. ^^

  • @obchamp
    @obchamp Год назад +3

    LOL I respect you guys trying to embrace Fromsoftware lore because it can be hard to follow even after playing through the game.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Год назад

      Haha, at least we aren’t alone in finding it tough to grasp. But Vaati does a good job and we are starting to digest it more 🙂

  • @Stryfe_KOA
    @Stryfe_KOA Год назад +6

    I'm glad you brought up Game of Thrones because I believe the creator worked on this game, so there are most definitely some elements in the game from Game of Thrones.

  • @shiin6345
    @shiin6345 Год назад +1

    I really wished you guys played it

  • @Sherudons
    @Sherudons Год назад +2

    Vaati's stuff is rather good if a little long, though it does go into the lore pretty well.
    Myself, I hope the next dlc offer you a chance to get a new ending and save malenia and millennia by the game acknowledging you have the needle fully powered up after using it on yourself to avoid the chaos ending.

  • @geraldthegoose1685
    @geraldthegoose1685 Год назад +11

    Radahn and Morgott are definitely my favorite demigods in elden ring both gameplay and lore

  • @Mankey619
    @Mankey619 Год назад +1

    Funny thing that you mentioned Game Of Thrones,cause the writer for Elden Ring is done by non other than George R.R Martin. He even said that he loved the story and lore of Dark Souls,and Miyazaki called him to write the story and lore for Elden Ring.
    So that’s why your seeing some Game Of Thrones references here in Elden Ring. There’s even a sword that’s called Grafted Blade Greatsword. It looks just like the Iron Throne from the show itself.

  • @Inshabael.
    @Inshabael. Год назад +2

    Oh yes, guys you have to do the Elden Ring Prepare to cry series.

  • @Revelation40000
    @Revelation40000 Год назад +1

    I highly recommend looking into the Elden Ring Prepare to Cry. A heads up, the Warrior Within is about a meme in the community. The other two are two of the six endings which he is doing a lore video on each.

  • @kingkayleb
    @kingkayleb Год назад +1

    You need to react to boss cutscenes in this game!!

  • @the98themperoroftheholybri33
    @the98themperoroftheholybri33 Год назад +1

    I prefer to think that I killed all the demi gods in the game, and I became a god by slaying the elden beast.
    (I know it's not lore accurate, but it's fun)

  • @sethshearhart3682
    @sethshearhart3682 Год назад +2

    I recommend the Tarnished Archeologist RUclips channel for more of a in depth look and explanation of the histories of the lands and peoples of Elden Ring. Very digestible and is on the fore-front of lore and lore related theories. EDIT: Addendum; a playlist I recommend is his one about the Empires of the Lands Between. It is comprehensive of the past and sheds lights on the past of Marika.

    • @elias.t
      @elias.t Год назад +1

      Vaati is perfect for getting the basic lore knowledge down. If they ever want to go into the deeper parts of the iceberg, though... I'd rather recommend Hawkshaw.

    • @sethshearhart3682
      @sethshearhart3682 Год назад

      @@elias.t Yeah basic. I specifically said if they want to go deeper they can try one of the recommended videos. I think his theories which are given credence by real world events that likely to no doubt are the inspiration to the events and characters of the game. As well as he looks at the in game archeology which when given context explains some well hidden bits of lore.

  • @youngwindmillgang3239
    @youngwindmillgang3239 Год назад

    ITS HAPPANING BOIS PREPARE TO CRY LETSSSSSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @urtoryu_dy_althraidn
    @urtoryu_dy_althraidn 10 месяцев назад

    Funny that you considering calling Radahn "Star Killer", because his in-game nick name is "Star Scourge", which is kinda similar.

  • @fernandohinojosa3211
    @fernandohinojosa3211 Год назад

    Can you react to the video: "The Decade-Long Quest For Shadow of the Colossus’ Last Secret" from Jacob Geller channel and "Remake and remasters", "Legends of the box art" and "Video game pricing" from Dunkey channel?

  • @mifoon8727
    @mifoon8727 Год назад

    Game of Thrones adaptation makes sense considering it was co-written by George RR Martin who wrote the Game of Thrones books
    TOGETHAAAAA

  • @kaidennoctiskyuubi1160
    @kaidennoctiskyuubi1160 Год назад

    Is there a game play for the following games?
    WatchDogs
    WD DLC
    WatchDogs2
    WD2 DLCs
    WatchDogs Legion
    WDL DLCs

  • @kookoo9235
    @kookoo9235 Месяц назад

    I would hate for there to be series on elden ring. It would solidify lore way too much and it would take away from the open endedness of the original lore where a lot of the things are left for interpretation of the player. I hope fromsoft never goes down this road and keeps this way of story telling because that's my favorite part of all their soulsborne games, i genuinely enjoy the lore scrounging more than the gameplay itself.

  • @BEOWULF_VON_KRIEGER
    @BEOWULF_VON_KRIEGER Год назад

    Could you guys react to the frenzied flame ending explained by also VaatiVidya

  • @zara835
    @zara835 Год назад

    On your comment that your gaming skills aren't up to snuff to play something like Elden Ring, I doubt that's true. About 3 or 4 years ago I finally played through Dark Souls 1 & 3 (DS2 gave me really bad motion sickness sadly), then Sekiro, and Elden Ring when it came out. Despite playing video games for like 20+ years, I had to find my way to play these games. Sure some basic knowledge of video games, such as how to traverse menus, or just other little things long time gamers think are obvious, but new or non-gamers don't understand, is nice, but I feel Elden Ring especially gives you enough knowledge, if you let it, to get you playing the game, and then all that's left is enjoying yourself, and "getting good" as necessary. All my years of playing video games didn't impart anything helpful beyond knowledge that all enemies, basic or boss, have a script of what they will do in any situation.
    So the only thing you NEED to know going into Elden Ring is this: Die, Learn, Repeat, and you'll get there eventually.

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Год назад

    I recommend doing the Kingdom Hearts: Timeline Series made by Everglow at some point, if you’re interested?

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Год назад

    Hm, how about doing The (Mostly) Complete Lore of Hollow Knight at some point? That could be interesting.

  • @Lothnar5070
    @Lothnar5070 2 месяца назад

    The guy can't even pronounce *Malenia* correctly, instead he keeps saying *"Millenia"* She even says her name several times as she kicks your ass

  • @urtoryu_dy_althraidn
    @urtoryu_dy_althraidn 10 месяцев назад

    I hope you guys got to play Elden Ring. The game is difficult, but not nearly as much as the internet would make you believe. Souls games have this overblown reputation of being super hard when they aren't really.
    They're not easy games, but it's far more about learning and experience than it is about pure skill, so while you might die more times in a souls game than in others, I'd argue those others might be harder.
    I'm saying this because I too a really long time to get into Dark Souls, I spend many years pushing off the game because I was intimidated by how everyone kept saying it's so hard. Then when I finally picked up DS3 to play it, I found it so much more manageable than I expected and regretted taking so long to try it.

  • @esmith2k2
    @esmith2k2 Год назад

    "I dont think our gaming skills are there yet" They are. Elden Ring and all of the other fromsoftware games are designed to be beaten by everyone. They're designed to push you, of course, but they aren't designed solely for hardcore gamers. What I mean by that is im a "hardcore" gamer. I died over and over and over hundreds of times exploring Elden Ring. However, now that ive played it half a dozen times, its "easy". It didnt START easy, but it is once you play it a bunch.

  • @musso9yh3
    @musso9yh3 Год назад

    Hey, you should check out DOOM Eternal all cutscenes!!!!

  • @itsCaptainEli
    @itsCaptainEli Год назад

    The funny thing is, you wanna learn more about Marika first hand? So do we, she's almost not in the game, and has not first hand lines. Such is the nature of souls-likes. All of them happen after the big climax, us playing during the kinda 'post apocalypse' as it were.

  • @jaydunna2645
    @jaydunna2645 Год назад +2

    Elden Ring has an easy mode...you can use summons/spirits to make it trivial.

  • @gacktdirge17
    @gacktdirge17 2 месяца назад

    To be fair most ppl come to Vaati to make sense of their journey through the game. So when he comment on something you immediatly have a gameplay moment that come to mind, make sense that it doesn't connect as much without that part.

  • @logeyperogi1805
    @logeyperogi1805 Год назад

    I personally like the theory that Radahn conquered the stars out of service of the Greater Will, to prevent the interference of Outer Gods within the Lands Between
    Just looking at the design of the Elden Beast, it looks a little bit similar to the design of Nyarlathotep in Lovecraftian mythos, and we know FromSoft has dipped their toes in such ideas in the past, cough Bloodborne cough, so the idea of other Outer Gods trying to interfere with the Lands Between, and potentially take them from the Greater Will seems interesting

  • @CordovanSplotchVT
    @CordovanSplotchVT Год назад

    Yeah, RUclips lore videos on FromSoft games are a lot like sitting through a history lecture, compared to watching a historical TV show.
    Without the more narrative timeline of causal events, a lot of it sort of muddles together into a large pool of loosely fitted together information that you can't always make heads or tails of unless you played through the game studying all the lore bits and analysing them yourself at least a bit.

  • @cerb1221
    @cerb1221 Год назад

    sadly he didnt go into nearly enough detail about godwyn.
    So i will. After godwyn was killed, only his "soul" was killed. His body and the fragments of him that remained still lived on, which allowed presumably an outer god to infect him. Once he arrived at the roots of the erdtree, the god inside him festered and changed him into the thing shown at 1:00 .
    From here the god infected the water, which went up the roots and into various parts of the world. His face can be seen on some crabs and other creatures drinking the water. He is connected to a few spells, incantations, etc etc that instantly kills players. Deathroot, the essence of the outer god, sprouts in through the player, impaling them.
    What makes him even more disturbing is the mermaid tail he has grown, and his new name.
    The Prince of Death. That his his new name, and "Prince" implies a king.
    As for the tail, the original meaning of mermaids were harbingers of bad weather. Seeing as an outer god infected him, im guessing thats the "bad weather"

  • @ukiahduran6793
    @ukiahduran6793 Год назад

    "I want to see HBO Max do an eldenring series"
    -looks at what they did to Velma-
    Yeee are ya sure ya want THEM to do that? I todaly get it I would love to see a series like that done right but considering what they have done with shows lately...

  • @WokeandProud
    @WokeandProud Год назад

    Were you expecting anything less from a video game co-worked on by the guy who wrote the game of thrones series?

  • @darrylferguson3622
    @darrylferguson3622 Год назад

    Them watching this before Maxxor's video was a great idea

  • @Lyko5
    @Lyko5 Год назад

    in order to learn about Rennala, you might need to look into the Astrologer class and also, the relationship they had with the mountaintop giants: eventualy, the study of stars became the use of the power of the stars to fashion changes in reality known as glinstone magic. In Rennala's case, she was a girl astrologer like any of the Carian family but eventualy her gazing up led to finding the full moon, even creating a sect of sorceres that believes the study of the moon as important as the stars and she passed that to her daughter Ranni, who found the Dark Moon. Knowing the Carian family has their fate in the stars, its interesting that the nox of the Eternal City were in search of the lord of their dark moon and so desperate that they attempted to ''create'' a lord through alchemy, but here after so long we have someon who pocess power over the dark moon that caused the shattering and potentially the end the nox people wanted: The Age of the Stars

  • @dess1619
    @dess1619 Год назад

    You should check out Vaati's video on the Lore of Miquella, one of the best ones I think and I've only seen 1 person react to it.

  • @praisethesun3907
    @praisethesun3907 Год назад

    The Mad Taint of their newfound strenght... Triggered the Shattering.

  • @voxstelarum
    @voxstelarum Год назад

    At this point you guys must play the game, lore videos are nice but you lack the context to put all this info into perspective

  • @undead_heratic1648
    @undead_heratic1648 Год назад

    Please watch the prepare to cry videos if you want a more cinematic experience.

  • @viniqo
    @viniqo Год назад

    Radahn nickname is Starscourge :D

  • @insertcommaname1388
    @insertcommaname1388 Год назад

    19:23 to make it clear, elden ring is originally a Japanese game, just like dark souls.

  • @shanedillis153
    @shanedillis153 Год назад

    Check out the tarnish archeologists dudes awesome

  • @lordcommissar7813
    @lordcommissar7813 Год назад

    Can you react to king of frenzied flame lore by vaatividya

  • @miguelsilva1830
    @miguelsilva1830 Год назад

    The manga is my favorite manga, its just the funiest shit Ive ever writen

  • @HexxKnight
    @HexxKnight Год назад

    now yall gettin why these kinda games are good, u get a lil lore and it just makes u hunger for more.

  • @LadyMarias_number1simp
    @LadyMarias_number1simp Год назад

    You guy's have to react to dork souls yes you heard that right 😂

  • @anwertunio8341
    @anwertunio8341 Год назад

    Heyyyy you guys should try out maxors summary of elden ring

  • @tufiking5439
    @tufiking5439 Год назад +1

    If you think elden ring lore is complicated ... Just wait until you see dark souls lore 😂

  • @Funnywargamesman
    @Funnywargamesman Год назад

    Cool that you are watching another video

  • @dragonbreath7274
    @dragonbreath7274 Год назад

    Saw it was vatti you were reacting to and I had to watch

  • @jakobecameron7732
    @jakobecameron7732 Год назад

    REACT TO THE APEX LEGENDS REVELRY TRAILER

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Год назад

    Well, this was very interesting.

  • @moonrabbit2334
    @moonrabbit2334 Год назад +1

    34:39 What about "Starscourge Radah" instead of Star killer?
    Yeah it's his actual title😊

  • @Experiment-hh6lo
    @Experiment-hh6lo Год назад +1

    Man, Elden Ring has some the most complex lore I’ve seen in a while!
    Rivaling that of Dark Souls! 😦

  • @shadowboy0126
    @shadowboy0126 Год назад

    Rennala's daughter, Ranni has a questline tied to her in game, one where you enter her service and after helping her slay her own Two Fingers you essentially marry her. Shes the most compassionate of the demigods we can interact with. Miquella would be the only other one that comes close but we dont get to interact with him. Ranni wishes to end the influences of all the outer gods that want to meddle with humanity and exert their control. She wants humanity to control their own fate. Its a path she believed she had to walk alone, but in her ending she realizes she wishes to walk it with you, her "fair consort, eternal." You even get a really cool greatsword as a wedding gift. its the Moonlight Greatsword with a twist that appears in every souls game.
    The description of the sword tells you its something carian royals would gift to their spouses. Its a tradition to gift one of these upon being wed. You can find Radagon's cast away in a cave somewhere, corrupted by the Golden Order.

  • @WillowTheGremlin
    @WillowTheGremlin Год назад +1

    You guys should watch all of the cutscenes. It gives you a good look into what each demigod is like at the current present times in which the players journey takes place

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Год назад

      Yeah we will most likely check that out after diving a bit more into lore to Linda get the story 😅

  • @ChuckRuck523
    @ChuckRuck523 Год назад +1

    I would highly request watching more of these videos. The lore and everything in elden ring is so good and Vaati is the perfect man to explain it.
    My personal favorites that I hope you watch one day are The Lord of Frenzied Flame and the Blessing of Despair

  • @jaimemoreno7203
    @jaimemoreno7203 Год назад

    I love vaatividya’s elden ring lore videos

  • @youngprince7820
    @youngprince7820 Год назад +1

    Being a God is Good.

  • @ArvindRajAgnosticAtheist
    @ArvindRajAgnosticAtheist Год назад

    2 videos in and we're barely scratching the surface. I love your reactions!

  • @dandyprime5338
    @dandyprime5338 Год назад

    Here's a quick and simple list of names for each demi-god character to help distinguish an study them:
    Remember that all offspring of Queen Marika the Eternal are demi-gods.
    [QUEEN MARIKA & GODFREY, FIRST ELDEN LORD]
    - Godwyn the Golden (first of the demi-gods to die during The Night of the Black Knives)
    - Morgott, the Grace-Given, Omen King and Lord of Leyndell
    - Mohg, Lord of Blood
    Remember that Morgott and Mohg are cursed Omen twins.
    [RADAGON OF THE GOLDEN ORDER & RENNALA, QUEEN OF THE FULL MOON]
    - Starscourge Radahn
    - Lunar Princess Ranni
    - Praetor Rykard, Lord of Volcano Manor
    [RADAGON OF THE GOLDEN ORDER & QUEEN MARIKA THE ETERNAL]
    - Malenia, Blade of Miquella (Goddess of Rot)
    - Miquella (cursed with eternal childhood)
    Melina, the young female who helps guide the player in the game, is the one mentioned by Vaatividya that may be the child of Marika and Radagon as well.

  • @acephas3
    @acephas3 Год назад

    Melina and Ranni share faces.

  • @Iso20227
    @Iso20227 Год назад

    6:10
    “Horns, scales, and feathers used to grow in the human body and were considered signifies of the divine, now they are disdained as impurities as civilization advanced”.
    Eventually, these once holy traits were regarded as taboo, and all of which have manifested on the corpse of Godwyn the golden, (prince of death, first demigod to die, inheritor of the rune of death) as he lie dead under the Erdtree.
    22:26
    Melenia was fighting for Miquella, to protect him while he grew his haligtree. But while she was fighting Radahn, Mohg broke into the haligtree and kidnapped Miquella to become his empyrean vessel for the blood god.
    (From my understanding).

  • @emperorpalpatine2957
    @emperorpalpatine2957 Год назад

    I imagine the reason why Malenia challenged Radahn in the first place was likely due to that outer god. I think it was probably whispering in her ear to, you know as I would say "Dew it." She reluctantly agreed so she challenged him. I think the Outer god knew she was no match for Radahn but wanted to put her into a situation where she's cornered and has no choice but to rely on her rot to win. She couldn't just run away because she's a proud and prideful warrior.

  • @SylverQrow
    @SylverQrow Год назад

    So Radahn’s full title is StarScourge Radahn. That is very close to StarKiller. XD
    Almost all the Demigods have a title.

  • @spacemegalodon5049
    @spacemegalodon5049 Год назад

    One demigod that was not mentioned in this video was Godrick. Godrick was a descendant of Godfrey and Marika, unlike the ones in this video who are direct offspring. Godrick was incredibly weak and pathetic compared to the rest of the family because each generation of the golden linage had less power than the ones before. This caused some issues with Godrick became he wanted to live up to Godfrey and Godwyn, but he wasn't strong enough to do it and he was often mocked by people. During the shattering, he fled from the capital by hiding with the women, he hid from Radhan as he passed Godrick's castle, and he lost a fight with Malenia and had to beg for his life. All these events damaged any pride he had and caused him to turn to grafting to make himself stronger. Grafting is when someone takes another things body parts and attaches it to themselves. They would normally use the limbs of other humans in grafting but it seems like it could work with any animal. This allowed Godrick to go from a weak man that was smaller than most of his subjects, to a giant asymmetric mass of limbs. Despite grafting dozens of limbs onto himself to become stronger, he was still the weakest demigod.

  • @yuriwilde506
    @yuriwilde506 Год назад

    MY FAV!!! ❤❤❤❤

  • @alexroman8878
    @alexroman8878 Год назад

    About Rennala
    From the beginning, noxes lived on the lands of Rai Lukaria, the cities that are now underground were also theirs, but then, so far I remember, the monster Astel flew in, who took away the moon from them and drove them underground. Then stars began to fall into lake Liurnia, bringing with them crystal golems and those very stone people - masters of gravitational magic. The Rai Lukaria Academy was built to study the "magic of the stars". but then Rennala appeared, who was chosen by an outer god, the personification of which was the new moon, and began to crush the academy under her (there were enough of those in the academy who did not like Rennala). Then Rennala raised her family as the greater will got strong enough(its influence on this particular world) and wished for expansion. Marika's first husband went to north to fight against the giants and their god of fire, and Radagon went to lake Liurnia, where he met Rennala in battles, fell in love and married her under the pretext of "no war". Ranni, as a petty prankster, found the former moon of the Noxes (as well as the Noxes themselves, I suspect) and began to study it. Rennala understood that the greater will did not approve of the Noxes and everything connected with them, so she created a puppet - Renna(Rennala), who began to teach Ranni ice magic and distract her daughter from deepening into the topic of Noxes. Then Radagon left Rennala and Renni lost both her mother and her teacher. Then Ranni made contact with Marika, who had already lost Melina by that time, which was a tool(call it otherwise if you wish) for creating weapons against the greater will and a part of its manifestation in the Land between(the golden order) - she studied two things that the greater will was most afraid of - the flame of the giants and the rune of death. Ranni made contact with Marika when she was already preparing to break the ring. Ranni wasn't very happy with the golden order also, and her mother's madness didn't help at all(what was fully the greater will fault). It was then that she deprived herself of her body in order to escape the influence of a greater will and fall out of the race for the throne.
    I deeply studied the subject long ago so could forget something but have tried to make right accents.