MISTBORN: The Final Empire | Review and Discussion

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @LostinDiscovery
    @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +21

    Timestamps for mobile users :)
    0:00 - Intro
    0:48 - No Spoilers
    11:27 - Spoilers
    18:18 - Thank you

  • @IbbyMelbourne
    @IbbyMelbourne 3 года назад +32

    Just finished Final Empire a few hours ago. Maybe not the best book I've ever read or anything, but a really fun book, and I can see why it's a classic.
    I actually liked the chapters at the balls, because that's where most of the politicking was. They also had a really creepy vibe to me, because of the contrast of all the unspeakable horrible things the nobles would do to Skaa and each other.
    Something goofy I noticed, was that even by the end of the book Elend never learns Vins real name. I'm assuming it happens off screen in the epilogue, but it's still weird.
    Also, Kelsier and Sazed are Vins two dads lol

  • @emjaeteel5599
    @emjaeteel5599 4 года назад +48

    I had to laugh that you think you know where this is going. It is going to be wonderful to watch you take the upcoming ride!

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +10

      Man I have absolutely no clue, all I know is that I completely trust Sanderson to deliver!

    • @Rafdi13
      @Rafdi13 4 года назад +7

      @@LostinDiscovery oh man. You have no Idea.

    • @madspunj1
      @madspunj1 4 года назад +11

      There's always another secret...

  • @Arezoo298195
    @Arezoo298195 4 года назад +16

    You knew it was coming?! Well done! I was floored. I remember I said out loud, ‘oh my god! How could you?!’ And then I spent the rest of the book expecting him to come back so the Kandra totally had me for a minuet.

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +4

      Ugh, man. What made me feel it coming was how he intentionally created a god-like persona around the skaa, always telling himself it would be necessary. I was like oh god... are we really going to go there?
      Regardless, that scene hit me HARD. The Kandra had me for a second too! Sanderson had to just crush me once more didn't he?

    • @Arezoo298195
      @Arezoo298195 4 года назад +1

      Lost in Discovery I was actually really mad at Kelsier for not sharing his plan at all. Like maybe they could have thought of something if they tried it together. Maybe they could have figured out the lord rulers secret if he had shared that metal with Vin before he died. I know the mentor dying is supposed to happen, but usually it would happen in book two!

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +3

      I understand why he had to hold things back but I agree with the fact that he could've shared at least a little bit more! I suspect that doesn't create as much drama or you know... PAIN! I'm still not coping.

    • @Arezoo298195
      @Arezoo298195 4 года назад +1

      Lost in Discovery Take it one more chapter at a time and remember Kelsier. “There is always another secret.”
      I look forward to seeing you read the rest of the books. You have no idea what’s coming. 😈😂

  • @christophrcolon
    @christophrcolon 4 года назад +13

    Man, your channel is SO FREAKING GOOD! Please keep making more videos.

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +3

      Thanks so much man! Will do!

    • @christophrcolon
      @christophrcolon 4 года назад +2

      @@LostinDiscovery would really love to see some more of your analytical stuff on the Stormlight archives. Also, more detailed videos about cosmere connections would be amazing!

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад

      Absolutely dude. Right now I’m getting through Rhythm of War and will be doing discussion videos for each part. Once that’s finished I’d love to get into Cosmere connections and things like that :)

  • @Nobrev
    @Nobrev 3 года назад +1

    It's been a few years since I've read the Mistborn series and I can say it's still one of my all time favorite fantasy series. I fell in love with allomancy immediately and just fell into the world Sanderson created. I actually, just today, recieved a set of metal dice for the tabletop Mistborn game that are plated with all the allomantic metals with their allomantic symbols either raised or depressed into the surface depending on if they are a pushing or pulling metal. Definitely going to be the centerpiece of my dice collection.

  • @banjotiki3910
    @banjotiki3910 4 года назад +11

    I have just finished this book. This will be one of my new favorite series. Sadly, I was spoiled and I knew Kelsier was going to die in the series, but I hoped it would happen in the last book.

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +1

      I was so shocked it happened in book 1 but I can say the series doesn't lose any quality because of it :)

    • @KriusAerion
      @KriusAerion 4 года назад +2

      Fret not, true believer of the surviver 😉

    • @benjaminwhitehead4050
      @benjaminwhitehead4050 3 года назад

      I listened to the book over a long car trip so I, fortunately, didn't get it spoiled. But when that carriage was rolling up to them I was thinking "Oh Kelsier is gonna get floored isn't he" And yeah that pretty much happened XD

    • @Madeline64
      @Madeline64 Год назад

      Thank you for spoiling it for me, really appreciate that ☺️ maybe put a spoiler warning next time

    • @banjotiki3910
      @banjotiki3910 Год назад

      @@Madeline64 don't open comments if you haven't read it 💀

  • @deltapi6880
    @deltapi6880 Год назад +1

    dude you are the most underrated youtuber I have ever seen, here's to hoping you get more success and attention in the future!

  • @costelinha1867
    @costelinha1867 2 года назад +2

    Me reading The Hero of Ages: Wait... Vin was 16 in book 1? damm time flies.

  • @NerdyPunk93
    @NerdyPunk93 3 года назад +4

    Just finished this myself. Loved it. There wasn’t a moment/chapter that I didn’t get gripped by - I especially loved the ball scenes, so I’m interested by your take on them. I dunno, maybe it’s my love for political intrigue. Honestly, I think this first book makes for a good stand-alone - though I am excited to see where the story takes us!

  • @kalpeshsutar2405
    @kalpeshsutar2405 2 года назад +1

    I finished reading The Final Empire yesterday. I was looking for a book review to see what others felt about the book. Your spoiler part of the video was exactly my reaction after finishing the book!

  • @KriusAerion
    @KriusAerion 4 года назад +3

    BRANDO SANDO BACK AT IT AGAIN.
    I'm (finally) reading through Warbreaker and man, I've never wanted a tattoo based on a book before but I find it hard to resist getting a Nightblood tattoo. "Hello! Would you like to destroy some Evil today? :3

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +1

      Hahaha ah man, that would be a sick tattoo.

  • @shananika
    @shananika 3 года назад +3

    Finished the book about a week ago. I loved Sazed too (I pronounce it “Sah Zed”). In fact, aside from the clearly defined “bad guys” like Camon, I like all of the characters. I liked the twist that Rashek was the Lord Ruler. Loved the twist about Reen not really abandoning Vin, but actually dying while protecting her with his silence. Sadly, I was hoping Vin would bump into him again at some point but oh well. Kelsier’s death was spoiled for me by some Rhythum of War review channels because they just threw out Cosmere spoilers. But because of their spoilers, I’m excited to read Mistborn: Secret History when I finish the main series 😍

  • @OntheOtherHandVideos
    @OntheOtherHandVideos 4 года назад +7

    Love Mistborn and this review! Ya, on the topic of how gruesome it is, my brother said he would like to see it as a movie, but I don't feel like it could translated into a movie without TONS of blood and gore, and I don't feel like it could both have the gore and keep the tone the book had. (And according to the audio book, Sazed is pronounced 'say-zid')

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад

      Thanks! Yeah I agree with you, I hope they manage to find a way to bring it to the screen though. I feel like it would absolutely blow up!

    • @OntheOtherHandVideos
      @OntheOtherHandVideos 4 года назад +1

      @@LostinDiscovery Ya, I think a video game adaptation might be the best of both words - moving like spider-man through the city, and having reserves of metals to gather/manage and use in battles, it could be sweet.

    • @ohlookakitty911
      @ohlookakitty911 4 года назад +1

      @@OntheOtherHandVideos Hi. I think maybe an animated adaptation will also be good in this case. Especially for the battle mechanics(think Attack on Titan).

    • @OntheOtherHandVideos
      @OntheOtherHandVideos 4 года назад

      @@ohlookakitty911 Hi! Ya, I could see that - animation would provide a lot more leeway when it came to visualizing the various elements abilities, and discretion at the level of gore, it could be really cool!

  • @flippingpages4288
    @flippingpages4288 4 года назад +2

    Glad to hear you liked The Final Empire! It was so good. Just like you, I am not ok. lol. I wasnt ready for that loss lol. I was really liking him too. Sazed is amazing and i love his role!

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +1

      Hahah I'm glad I'm not alone man.

    • @flippingpages4288
      @flippingpages4288 4 года назад +1

      I had such a sad face when it happened lol.. When do you plan to pick up the 2nd book?

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +1

      Probably this weekend! Though I should get onto the Hunger Games prequel first... I'm kind of struggling through that one though. Have you started it too?

    • @flippingpages4288
      @flippingpages4288 4 года назад +1

      no I haven't started the prequel yet. I've been reading Elantris and I have about 200 pages left of that. and about 10 chapters left of well of ascension. Im so behind lol

  • @shailejanarain
    @shailejanarain 3 года назад +6

    I feel bad for the people who haven't read the book yet and stumbled upon the comments. They're all fraught with spoilers holy shit😅

  • @elcee8
    @elcee8 2 года назад

    Props to you and any Cosmere fan for reading this series after reading the SA. When I first read the Way of Kings I was like - woah, is this really the same author who wrote the Final Empire? People put Mistborn in the bridge between YA and adult fantasy - and I can see why. The content is not really YA. Maybe having a female protagonist as a 16 year old is. But really I think it's the writing in the Final Empire that seems super accessible and YA-ish compared to his later books. That's not a bad thing. I am just pleased to see an author improve so fast in his writing. Like there is a HUGE difference, at least to me, in his prose and writing skills between the Final Empire and Hero of Ages. That's just from book 1 to book 3 in a series. And even though he may not be a master at prose like Rothfuss or Patricia A Mckillip (the queen of prose - so good at it that one of her fans, a poet, got her to marry him somehow), he is just so amazing at storytelling that you just can't help but be so invested. And his character work improves over time as well. Though Mistborn era 1 is always near and dear to my heart, Era 2 has the amazing character work and quirks that make them, to me, way more colorful than era 1 characters (except Kelsier, I'll always love him the best from the Mistborn series).
    That said, I'm happy that Mistborn was my first Sanderson series. Weirdly, my very first Sanderson chapter that I ever read was the first chapter of the Hero of Ages. My friend's husband took my kindle and uploaded hundreds and hundreds books onto it like almost a decade ago. Always a lover a fantasy, I checked some titles on there and thought, "oh, Hero of Ages sounds like the first of a series. The final empire can't be the first of the series." And thought how weird the series was for starting out with some flying guy in white trying to save a town or something. It wasn't until I got to the second chapter with a kandra that I got really confused and realized that this definitely can't be the first of a series. I guess I really spoiled myself, especially for Well of Ascension. But moral of the story, reading Mistborn first before SA = good decision. But if you're used to big epic fantasies, then Stormlight would be the way to go. And I think according to Man Carrying Thing you're supposed to read Warbreaker in between each entry...I forget....

  • @ifsadks
    @ifsadks 3 года назад +3

    You're great, man! Subbed.

  • @kentrose2520
    @kentrose2520 2 года назад

    I just finished this book a few days ago and have been thinking about it a lot. I don't really read that often so if I actually finish a book it means I probably enjoyed it quite a bit and Mistborn I definitely enjoyed. The world Sanderson created is dark and interesting and I can just imagine strolling down the ash-covered streets of Luthadel. While I thought Kelsier was a bit too "hey i'm charastimatic, I wink!" for me, he was still an interesting character. Marsh was also an interesting character in the way that he was sort of in the background for a while but then played a significant part later on. Thanks for the vid!

  • @mrsduncanthetall
    @mrsduncanthetall 3 года назад +1

    Hi i just discovered your channel a couple of weeks ago i been meaning to complement you. I spent the last 3 months on a cosmere rabit hole and i got everyone just about annoyed talking about it.😝🙈 i love how passionate you are about the cosmere .and trust me ive seen other yt channels but you are extremely genuine

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  3 года назад +1

      I definitely know that feeling of bugging everyone around me about the Cosmere! So glad you enjoy the videos, thank you.

  • @eternal_napalm6442
    @eternal_napalm6442 Год назад

    I loved the journal entries and the intrigue. The entire novel I was wondering how someone who seemed so normal got so corrupted. The twist was set up in an innocent and unsuspecting way but hit hard when revealed.

  • @shadowmaxxx
    @shadowmaxxx 3 года назад +2

    You need to check out alloy of law series, it's Soo good. It's many years after the last book but it's a continuation of mistborn

  • @august1837
    @august1837 3 года назад

    My first video of yours. I’m subscribing this is great

  • @GalacticReads
    @GalacticReads 4 года назад +2

    Fantastic review again! I've been meaning to re-read Mistborn. When I read it years ago, I wasn't really a fan. Though I agree, the magic system was SO cool! I'm wanting to get into Sanderson - would you recommend re-reading Mistborn or starting with the Stormlight Archive first? I'm tempted to read Way of Kings first, because it sounds more like WoT (which I love!)

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +1

      Thanks so much! Knowing a bit about your taste I'd say jump right into Way of Kings. I've enjoyed every Sanderson book I've read so far but still none come close to the Stormlight Archive. I haven't read WoT but I can vouch for the fact that Stormlight is similar it certain ways. It has that grand scale and is quickly becoming as all time classic :)

    • @GalacticReads
      @GalacticReads 4 года назад +1

      @@LostinDiscovery thank you! That sounds perfect actually, as I've been wanting a grand epic fantasy. I'm gonna read Way of Kings next then ^_^ I'm so excited! Especially as there's a new book coming out soon right?

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +1

      Ahh that makes me so excited! I can't wait to hear your thoughts on it! Book 4 is out mid November!

    • @GalacticReads
      @GalacticReads 4 года назад +1

      @@LostinDiscovery that's so soon! But still, totally enough time to catch up. So exciting :D I hope I like it!! I'll probably cry if I'm the one fantasy nerd who doesn't haha

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +1

      If you catch up in that time I'll be so damn impressed!! Hahaha, I'm crossing my fingers for you.

  • @andrew_ray
    @andrew_ray 3 года назад +2

    No spoilers, but the best way to get over Kelsier's death is probably to read Mistborn Secret History.

    • @leonie.243
      @leonie.243 3 года назад

      My friend recommended the Mistborn Trilogy to me a couple of weeks ago, and I finished the first book yesterday, but the day before I had cried so much over Kelsier’s death and was low-key feeling weird about carrying on the book because of how much of a comfort character he was to me, but luckily I found out about Secret History yesterday, so I’ll be adding that to my Christmas list. 😂

    • @andrew_ray
      @andrew_ray 3 года назад

      @@leonie.243 Definitely don't read Secret History until you finish the first trilogy.

    • @leonie.243
      @leonie.243 3 года назад

      @@andrew_ray Oh yeah, I did do a little bit of research on the Secret History book so I know when to read it. Because even though it’s after he died apparently, it also said it has some spoilers from the other two books. But unfortunately I’m borrowing the books from my friend I don’t see often, so that will be a while. 😂 Thank you though.

  • @Madeline64
    @Madeline64 Год назад

    This comment section did NOT pass the vibe check. I came to see other peoples opinions on the book and got completely spoiled so thanks a lot for that everyone.. there should be a warning in the comments.. I AM WARNING EVERYONE DO NOT CONTINUE SCROLLING.

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 2 года назад

    I really enjoyed the first book in era one unfortunately book 2 not so much I can't wait to read the third book

  • @tannerrich2388
    @tannerrich2388 3 года назад

    is there a Hero of Ages review?

  • @fena_reti
    @fena_reti 4 года назад +1

    I've been hearing so much about Brandon Sanderson since discovering the booktube community. The way you explain everything makes his books sound so intresting.
    Everyone seems to love his books and his writing, I'm not sure which of his books I should pick up first. Which one would you recommend for someone who enjoys character driven books?

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +3

      I'd recommend Warbreaker! It's very character driven and is a standalone book (with sequels planned in the coming years). I think it's a great one to start on because it's not the massive undertaking that his other series are and it's a very focussed and enjoyable story.
      I really loved the characters and setting so much. I have a video explaining why people should read it if you need more information :)

    • @fena_reti
      @fena_reti 4 года назад +1

      @@LostinDiscovery okay then I will take your recommendation and get the book! I will also watch your video to make sure I'm making the right choice 😁 thank you for your help 😊

    • @LostinDiscovery
      @LostinDiscovery  4 года назад +2

      @@fena_reti Awesome, no worries! :)

  • @rochoa7408
    @rochoa7408 2 года назад

    No wait, cause I need to speak my peace. When Vin fought and killed Shan Elariel, the seratonin boost that I got from that was amazing. Oooh I hated her and her death was so satisfying.

  • @eliezertorres9236
    @eliezertorres9236 Год назад

    I absolutely cried like a little b after Kelsier got bitchslapped out of existence, this one book sort of reinvigorated my taste for the whole genre

  • @thomassears1432
    @thomassears1432 3 года назад

    I just finished the first book. Spoiler alert here, but I didn’t follow how Vin pulled the bracelets from the Lord Ruler. Unless I missed something, that was too easy. I mean you would think that in a thousand years, the Lord Ruler would have known how to keep those bracelets from flying away. Especially since they were the key to his immortality.

    • @o_o-lj1ym
      @o_o-lj1ym 3 года назад +1

      I think it was because he suppressed the knowledge of the bracelets by suppressing that terrisman population. So he wasn’t expecting anyone to know that that the bracelets were important, or that only the top ones were important.

    • @siruglymane8343
      @siruglymane8343 2 года назад +1

      Most mistborn aren’t able to push/pull metals that are inside peoples bodies, the lord ruler + vin + his inquisitors are able to do this however. The lord ruler assumed everyone who was able to rip the bands out of his arms was on his side

  • @jojosoni
    @jojosoni 2 года назад

    I thought it was an ok story. It was nice and solid, but nothing great. I just had higher expectations i guess. Though 2nd part is really great

  • @cmation1073
    @cmation1073 3 года назад +1

    if I were to do the movie, I’d cut away before the major gore is shown, for example, SPOILERS,
    In the beheadings scene after yeaden attacks the garrison, I’d show the blood in the water instead of showing the beheading straight on. Using the viewers inferences to play into the violence. I think if the movie can be Pg-13 then it would hit it’s target audience better.

  • @JOSEPH-vs2gc
    @JOSEPH-vs2gc 2 года назад

    The Dialogue in this book i soooo painfully average, i'm insulted people think Sanderson is current the Goat of fantasy. Nonetheless this wasn't a terrible read. and i did enjoy it for what it is.