Beyond Salsa Percussion Vol. 3-Calixto Oviedo-Timba Gears (learn salsa drums & timbales)
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An introduction to Kevin Moore's Beyond Salsa Percussion, Volume 3 - Calixto Oviedo - Timba Gears. Innovative methods for learning Latin rhythms and a detailed study of the rhythm section differences between salsa and timba including the fascinating topic of gear changes, the differences in dance styles, etc.
00:00:58 About Beyond Salsa Percussion Volume 1
00:02:19 About Slow Motion Video Looping
00:02:54 About Volume 3 and Rhythm Section Gears
00:03:05 From marcha abajo to marcha arriba in NG La Banda's Santa palabra
00:05:13 Using Bamboleo to show differences between timba and salsa
00:07:02 A/B comparisons of salsa and timba
00:11:01 comparing the different timba bands - Los Van Van, Charanga Habanera, NG La Banda, Paulito FG et al
00:14:35 Calixto Oviedo bio and drum style changes
00:15:15 Calixto and the hihat
00:16:07 Chapter 1: Marcha abajo
00:17:55 Chapter 2: Marcha arriba
00:18:23 CSI: La Habana quiz
00:21:13 Chapter 3: Marcha de mambo
00:27:32 Chapter 4: Muela
00:33:54 Differences between timba and salsa - Timba Gears
00:40:47 Differences between timba and salsa dancing
00:43:50 Afro-Cuban Folkloric Dancing, tembleque and despelote
00:45:50 Salsa vs. Timba Arrangements
00:48:25 Changing Gears with Hand Signals - Paulito FG: De la Habana
00:50:34 Chapter 5: Presión and Masacote
00:52:24 Chapter 6: Bomba
00:53:02 Looking Ahead to Beyond Salsa for Ensemble
Kevin, I've read with great pleasure all of your Roots of Timba. You're a genius, man! As a Cuban, I'm very proud that our music can excite people like you. And as the big NG fan I was as a teenager I am super happy to see Calixto Oviedo featured here as the maestro he is. Que siga la rumba!
My son & I just discovered your video last now. How did we NEVER hear about this before.now??? INCREDIBLE Documentation!I’m a fan & will be purchasing this series very soon. 🙏🏽🎼🔥
excellent....Kevin,
you are the mystery dispeller!
que interesante documental, nos hace aprender y sobre todo entender desde la perspectiva técnica musical a la timba, dios los bendiga
Thanks so much for adding all of these NG la Banda videos. You are killing me!!!!
>Maybe it's closer to masacote?
I'd agree with that. Tomás Cruz plays little interjections with his elbow on the head of the drum in PFG's presión, but he definitely avoids playing any type of marcha. Once any kind of steady conga marcha comes in it tends to anchor the groove (as opposed to the soaring, euphoric "arrival" feeling of presión). Think of Paulito's De la Habana when the coro goes "y dónde están los especuladores" - that soaring, "arrival" feeling! The technical definition I use is that if it's a marcha, even the heel-toe-slap-toe (like Papiosco did with Klímax), it gives it more of a masacote feel. BUT, the main thing is the emotional feel - each of the three timba gear families has an intangible emotional quality - masacote is more funky and presión is more dramatic and soaring - bomba is that explosive tembleque thing. So if the band is soaring and bass is pedaling it will still feel like presión even if the conguero is keeping time with a manoteo. The role of each instrument is more like an observation of how most of the main timba bands orchestrate that emotional feel but it's the feel and the types of dance moves it inspires that really define the gear. The ultimate way to know what the gear is (if you don't know the band's sello) is to task yourself whether it "arrives" dramatically and then soars emotionally (presión), falls into a super-funky, improvisational percussion groove with no bass tumbao (masacote), or explodes with out-of-control rhythmic madness and makes the dancers become "possessed" with wild tembleque abandon (bomba).
Awesome documentary Kevin, thank you for breaking down all these complex topics. I'm currently reading the Beyond Salsa series of books for Piano and Percussion, and I highly recommend them to anyone that wants to make Latin music and understand the inner workings.
I must insist that "Muela" has to do with the fact that the word Muela (tooth) in cuban slang means to "speak" or to "speak too long" If you notice when the Muela segments arrive, the singer "Speaks" about something that has nothing to do with the song but more related to the audience, he's just 'speaking' not 'singing' and it can be as long as he wants, therefore it applies to "dar muela" known as to " just speak" although there's a point to whatever he's saying, leading to a chorus later, to the musicians, he's just "dando muela"
Hi Kevin thank you for sharing . Your books for piano and percussion ensemble are worth their weight in gold. We're so lucky to have this in English. I want to use hand signals more in my band. I was taught the gesture "bomba" by my percussion teacher (imitate dropping of bomb). Could you share a few more please?
mis respetos!
NG la banda lo marciano super final
Love this!!! Thank you!!
Hola este material esta impresionante , no entiendo por que un material de esta categoría no sale en español
Pedro Gabriel Rojas porque nosotros los cubanos solo tocamos, bailamos y tomamos ron pero a la hora de hacer el trabajo de recolección de datos y de investigar y atar cabos le damos de lado. Pecamos de talentosos presosos y por eso tiene que venir "un mesias" de "la yuma" para aclarar y enaltecer nuestro virtuosismo. Algún día cambiará.
Espero haberte ayudado con mi respuesta
Amazing video. 👍🔥
hello, I'd want to buy the book with Calixto's approach to drum-timbal.
Beyond salsa , hola ...algo de este material audio esoañol hay ??? Quiero saberlo
Just to be clear: when you say that prescion has no congas, you mean no standard marcha, correct? because Havana D'Primera's prescion always has conga playing "heel-toe-slap-toe-heel-toe-slap-toe," etc...super nerdy I know, but worth mentioning.
Presión, as I hear it, is defined by the *absence* of both conga marcha and bass tumbao. Either or both can comment on the proceedings improvisationally, but neither is keeping time. So, for example, in the first few Klímax albums, Papiosco plays a manoteo figure where it would never occur in PFG or ID.. Same on all those Envidia releases. Same with Havana d'Primera. For me (and what do I know?) the best timba aesthetic is to separate presión and bomba as far as possible from masacote. Presión should be like a huge void of percussion - soaring higher as a result. Bomba should be total orgasm, with everyone pounding away at the groove in the most un-subtle way. This creates a large space in the middle for funky conga-playing like Mengual in the 1999 Charanga Habanera or Papiosco in the Envidia "house band" (e.g. Ases de la Timba), or of course, Tomasito and Yoel Páez in the "songo con efectos" mode of Paulito.
To put it another way, in the ideal timba configuration, presión is a huge soaring explosion created by the absence of time-keeping; bomba is a huge dance explosion created by everyone grooving as hard as possible without trying to add subtleties; and masacote is all about this super funky subtle conversational exchange of all the rhythm section players.
@@kevinmoore4237 Gabriel's example is very close to probably the original root of this from Los Van Van what they called "La Bóta"?
like: HTSTHSTS. Notice the last three strokes are different. The last 2 Slaps can be replaced with open tones like tumba to conga.
While this might not be for Presión it's still very groovy (pretty sure I got it from Mike Spiro who got it from Changuito).
Hay algo de esto en español???
Lo siento, pero si quieres utilizar este video y reemplazar la narración con la tuya y encargar tu propio video, tienes mi promiso.
Maybe it's closer to masacote?
To understand Bomba....check Puerto Rico..there are some great examples of the music and dancing. Very different rhythm.
Cuando nos referimos al ritmo Bomba Oriundo de Puerto Rico aclaró que hemos tomado su base rítmica para añadir otros movimientos.
a recogerseeeeeeeeeeeee... sombrero quitado....
There is a Bible of information, here! 📜🗞️
My goodness!!!
Thanks for sharing!
Playing drums tTimbles is very uncomfortable and not very ergodynamic. But this is only my opinion. Congratulations
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