Liked that plane repair for Bandit, but REALLY liked that plane repair on your new aircraft carrier. Good work buddy. Always like & share your stuff. Eric
Hi, Dave . Glad to see you restore that old plane . Just imagine if it could talk, I bet it could tell some stories . I watched you fix that crack you may not have not got it hot enough to fill that area ? I was always taught to drill through where the crack is to stop it from going further this has worked for me . Perhaps you have learned and been sucessful with your technique . Let me know how well your method has worked for you . Perhaps I could learn something from that . I like your videos Thanks for sharing Best Regards Terry
Terry thank you for the kind words. Yes I did not get it as hot as it should be. If it was a manifold for a car I would have had a method of keeping it very hot before and after the repair. Drilling a through hole would be the proper method. I have a strong fear of further warping or cracking these planes. So I get it just hot enough for the patch to adhere . But that is my humble opinion. The old cast iron on these planes is very brittle and to much stress will make the problem worse.
Dave Bardin Hi, Dave . There is a channel on youtube called weldingtips and tricks he has many videos and very good . There is a rod called sillicone bronze that he uses with a tig torch to braze cast iron . You could check with your local welding supply to see if you could use this rod with a torch . Less heat less stress . Perhaps this is useful to you . Have a great day Dave Terry
I'm curious about the frog on the No. 8. It looks, for all the world, like a Bed Rock frog, but the frog base on the plane body looks like a regular ole Bailey. Do we have a bit of a frankenplane going on, or did older No. 8s have full-faced frogs like that?
Hello Dave. Nice work on the restoration! How did you remove the rust? Did you retap any of the blind threads? That looks like automotive black paint. There is a source of jappanning compound on the Internet. It is a stinky process, but restores the finish to original. Thanks for the video. Bill
+Bill Sutherland I most likely used electrolysis. You cant re-tap a Stanley thread and keep it to the Stanley thread. They used an old Winworth thread that died out 150 years ago. And yep good ole box store spray paint. Taking the time to re japan is a pain. If I every find the rare Stanley that is worth a lot and choose to refurbish it I would love to take the time to Japan it. Thank you for you wonderful comment Bill have a safe and happy new year.
I believe the screw thread was one used only for planes called "Sheffield plane thread". Taps and dies are available from specialist suppliers in the UK.
Not the usual thing for cast iron! Might work with some Nickle wire. Brazing is common for cast iron, I wonder if what we're seeing here is "nickle silver", our host said "silver" though. I have nickle silver brazing rod with blue flux on it like that, and have never seen any kind of silver solder with flux on it at all, is why I guess that. I'm interested b/c this kind of repair is something that comes up a lot!
Dave Bardin Two patent dates and no frog adjustment screw is a 9, yup. 1902-1907 though, not 1907-1909 (these were type 10, two dates AND the frog screw). Yours has a B casting mark which makes it an early type 9 (type 8 had that, it's a defining feature of them and was eliminated later on), but it has the later, type 9 tote shape - type 8 totes and earlier were way wide at the base. I'd give an offhand guess at maybe built around 1905 or so. The weird thing is that I have a 7C type 9 that has the early tote but no B casting mark! --> G at timetestedtools...
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Great work
Thank you Harry
GREAT VIDEO NICE WORK YOU TURNED JUNK INTO BEAUTIFUL RESTORATIONS
Thank you bud. I have found a few rare ones and have done this. It gives them a second chance.
Great work Dave, thanks for posting it.
Nice work 👏👌, Thats a Type 9 - 1902 to 1907 , i have restored hundreds of them in my time .
4:32 ...this aircraft carrier...
😂🤣 perfect size comparison for a no. 08
Liked that plane repair for Bandit, but REALLY liked that plane repair on your new aircraft carrier.
Good work buddy.
Always like & share your stuff.
Eric
Thanks Eric. When the 8 was handed to me, I was not expecting it. It was a very pleasant surprise.
Thank you my friend for all you do.
Hi, Dave . Glad to see you restore that old plane . Just imagine if it could talk, I bet it could tell some stories . I watched you fix that crack you may not have not got it hot enough to fill that area ? I was always taught to drill through where the crack is to stop it from going further this has worked for me . Perhaps you have learned and been sucessful with your technique . Let me know how well your method has worked for you . Perhaps I could learn something from that . I like your videos Thanks for sharing
Best Regards
Terry
Terry thank you for the kind words. Yes I did not get it as hot as it should be. If it was a manifold for a car I would have had a method of keeping it very hot before and after the repair. Drilling a through hole would be the proper method. I have a strong fear of further warping or cracking these planes. So I get it just hot enough for the patch to adhere . But that is my humble opinion. The old cast iron on these planes is very brittle and to much stress will make the problem worse.
Dave Bardin
Hi, Dave . There is a channel on youtube called weldingtips and tricks he has many videos and very good . There is a rod called sillicone bronze that he uses with a tig torch to braze cast iron . You could check with your local welding supply to see if you could use this rod with a torch . Less heat less stress . Perhaps this is useful to you . Have a great day Dave
Terry
I'm curious about the frog on the No. 8. It looks, for all the world, like a Bed Rock frog, but the frog base on the plane body looks like a regular ole Bailey. Do we have a bit of a frankenplane going on, or did older No. 8s have full-faced frogs like that?
They did.
Looks great. awesome job! Passing on the TP...might leave unwanted splinters! OUCH
Thank you my friend.
Very, very nice work. I couldn't say more.
Hello Dave. Nice work on the restoration! How did you remove the rust? Did you retap any of the blind threads? That looks like automotive black paint. There is a source of jappanning compound on the Internet. It is a stinky process, but restores the finish to original. Thanks for the video. Bill
+Bill Sutherland I most likely used electrolysis.
You cant re-tap a Stanley thread and keep it to the Stanley thread. They used an old Winworth thread that died out 150 years ago.
And yep good ole box store spray paint. Taking the time to re japan is a pain.
If I every find the rare Stanley that is worth a lot and choose to refurbish it I would love to take the time to Japan it.
Thank you for you wonderful comment Bill have a safe and happy new year.
I believe the screw thread was one used only for planes called "Sheffield plane thread". Taps and dies are available from specialist suppliers in the UK.
Why not tig weld it?
What would be the advantage? Strength, but seems brazing is sufficient and possibly easier to set up.
Not the usual thing for cast iron! Might work with some Nickle wire. Brazing is common for cast iron, I wonder if what we're seeing here is "nickle silver", our host said "silver" though. I have nickle silver brazing rod with blue flux on it like that, and have never seen any kind of silver solder with flux on it at all, is why I guess that. I'm interested b/c this kind of repair is something that comes up a lot!
@@FranconiaFriend Brazing might be stronger than cast iron, and is certainly more ductile.
-You did not mention how old t is. My guess is type 9. 1907-1909
Man I haven't type studied yet. I would Agree with you.
Dave Bardin Two patent dates and no frog adjustment screw is a 9, yup. 1902-1907 though, not 1907-1909 (these were type 10, two dates AND the frog screw). Yours has a B casting mark which makes it an early type 9 (type 8 had that, it's a defining feature of them and was eliminated later on), but it has the later, type 9 tote shape - type 8 totes and earlier were way wide at the base. I'd give an offhand guess at maybe built around 1905 or so. The weird thing is that I have a 7C type 9 that has the early tote but no B casting mark! --> G at timetestedtools...
I haven't typed it. If I did I don't remember but you close.
Good work on the planes, Sir.
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www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/start_flowchart.php
@0:35 It runs right into to the corner of the mouth lol That's what she said