thanks for the video! I have these in my basement and for the life of me couldn't figure out how to take it apart without destroying it. so you pretty much have to wreck the old tiles while removing and buy replacements?
I suppose you could carefully remove the staples with pliers and slide the tiles out. In my case there were missing tiles when we bought the house. I had to rewire the basement ceiling to get the lights working, so I pulled down more. Since I had to buy tiles anyway I just put up new.
They have worked for the 10 years since I put the tiles up. Glue and staples will work. You would need the staples to hold the tile up until the glue sets. The problem will come if you need to replace a broken tile. It will have to be scraped away from the furring strips. That's messy but not a big problem. If the tile is glued to the other tiles then good luck trying to take off just the broken tile without breaking whatever other tiles it is glued to. If it wasn't for the loss of ceiling height I would prefer a suspended ceiling in a basement. The tiles are easily removed and would allow access to all the plumbing and wiring that run through a typical basement.
@@OldSneelock Thank you. Let me put my question in a different way. How can you put the very last tile where there is not enough space for sliding the tile? I wish we could see that.
I see. in my case on the very last tile I cut the tongue off of one side slid it in, then pushed it up in where it belongs and then put some Staples in. It wasn't perfect, but you know you're stuck in the corner.
I have the same issue in my basement. Previous owner ripped them out in places to upgrade electrical. Would prefer not to take them all out since it only a basement but I cannot source 16x16 tiles anywhere! Where did you find them?
I have the same question as Frank did below... does anyone have ideas for how to get the tiles to slide into place? They’re quite fragile and break if I force them. Even if I use a buffer. Thank you! And thanks Sneelock!
I used a wide blade putty knife to guide the tongue and groove edged together. To help tap them into place without bending the edges I used a section of tongue and grooved wood to slip over or into the tile groove and give me a solid surface to tap on with a hammer.
As someone that has to replace some ceiling tiles that were damaged by a leak this is super helpful! I have a question... can something be used to help slide the tiles into place? I mean, would putting a small amount of vasoline on the edges help? Or would it cause a different problem?
Arrow Fastener I purchased dozens of them for stapling tags to pallets. The packaging department was having difficulty with tags falling off. Staples were the answer but hand stength was an issue with the standard staplers they were using. Not enough pressure to hold them in place and requiring two hands to cock the spring. Electrics and pneumatcs both had a cord or hose to drag around. My wife had a Power Shot and she loved it. I bought 6 and then I just had to make up for "missing" staplers. They were showing up all over the shop. Great design. Very ergonomic. No more carpal tunnel complaints. BRAVO
Seriously, this will sound stupid but those staplers have the staples coming out the bottom? Maybe that's why ours was so hard to use... Thank you for the video, learn something new everyday.
There are no stupid questions. This stapler is different than the one most people are used to. It's called a Powershot stapler and it's made by Arrow. It works really well and has an advantage that when you are pushing on the handle it forces the end of the stapler into the object being stapled. The other style actually lifts the exit end of the stapler off of the surface. Also since you are pressing down on the handle with your whole arm it is easier to use than the type that relies on grip strength. Thanks for asking. www.amazon.com/Arrow-5700-PowerShot-Heavy-Staple/dp/B0001MQHZ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407348444&sr=8-1&keywords=powershot+stapler
Old Sneelock's Workshop That's the one we have but I believe it is a Craftsman, and we were trying to use it the traditional grip strength way. Needless to say it was very awkward.
Joseph Grn This particular type of tile normally doesn't contain asbestos. These aren't the fireproof type of ceiling tile. They look like the are made from wood fiber or paper. I have run across suspended ceiling tiles that had asbestos in them but not this type. I have also supervised the removal of asbestos from several manufacturing buildings. Asbestos was commonly used up until the early 80's. It was an ingredient in flooring, pipe insulation, furnace cement, fireplaces, furnaces, boilers, and all manner of heating equipment. It also was used as a wall covering in the form of a whitish board thai is very brittle and breaks into fuzzy edged shards. If you suspect that any tiles, or anything else, might have hazardous materials in them you should contact a professional inspector.
ZIOS GAMER Long ago I wanted to add music to the intros. RUclips offered "free" tracks. Later when I went to monetize my vids the said they were all copywrite violations. I asked my son to play his high school marching bands cadence on my Trenton anvil. Until I found Incompetech, with their royalty free music it was the only music I owned.
thanks for the video! I have these in my basement and for the life of me couldn't figure out how to take it apart without destroying it. so you pretty much have to wreck the old tiles while removing and buy replacements?
I suppose you could carefully remove the staples with pliers and slide the tiles out. In my case there were missing tiles when we bought the house. I had to rewire the basement ceiling to get the lights working, so I pulled down more. Since I had to buy tiles anyway I just put up new.
Thanks for sharing! This was totally helpful as I am remodeling in my home! Universal Blessings! ~ PsychicSuesie
Glad I could help. 😆
Do the staples work? Some folks use glue? Any objections to using glue and staples?
They have worked for the 10 years since I put the tiles up.
Glue and staples will work. You would need the staples to hold the tile up until the glue sets.
The problem will come if you need to replace a broken tile. It will have to be scraped away from the furring strips. That's messy but not a big problem. If the tile is glued to the other tiles then good luck trying to take off just the broken tile without breaking whatever other tiles it is glued to.
If it wasn't for the loss of ceiling height I would prefer a suspended ceiling in a basement. The tiles are easily removed and would allow access to all the plumbing and wiring that run through a typical basement.
@@OldSneelock Thank you so much. You're really helping me figure this out. So just to confirm, you only use staples?
Yes.
Thanks. I have a few singles that are stained. How to replace one tile among the others that are good. Is sliding the only way?
There may be other ways, but this worked best for me. 😁😎
@@OldSneelock Thank you. Let me put my question in a different way. How can you put the very last tile where there is not enough space for sliding the tile? I wish we could see that.
I see. in my case on the very last tile I cut the tongue off of one side slid it in, then pushed it up in where it belongs and then put some Staples in. It wasn't perfect, but you know you're stuck in the corner.
@@OldSneelock Thank you for the elaboration. 👍
I have the same issue in my basement. Previous owner ripped them out in places to upgrade electrical. Would prefer not to take them all out since it only a basement but I cannot source 16x16 tiles anywhere! Where did you find them?
Mine are 12 x12 . I got them at Menards.
@@OldSneelock That explains it. 16x16 appear to be unavailable unfortunately. Cheers
I have the same question as Frank did below... does anyone have ideas for how to get the tiles to slide into place? They’re quite fragile and break if I force them. Even if I use a buffer. Thank you! And thanks Sneelock!
I used a wide blade putty knife to guide the tongue and groove edged together. To help tap them into place without bending the edges I used a section of tongue and grooved wood to slip over or into the tile groove and give me a solid surface to tap on with a hammer.
Also where can i buy these tile?
this may sound weird & i know this video is old but what inch staples were used if you remember ?
9/16"
As someone that has to replace some ceiling tiles that were damaged by a leak this is super helpful!
I have a question... can something be used to help slide the tiles into place? I mean, would putting a small amount of vasoline on the edges help? Or would it cause a different problem?
Frank Ferranti The tiles are very absorbent and I think the vaseline would begin traveling. You would end up with a dark patch along the edge.
@@OldSneelock How about chap stick?
@@calogan4219 You could try it.
I fortunately have not had to replace any tiles since finishing this project.
Where can i find these type of tile?
I bought them at Menards in Kalamazoo.
@@OldSneelock thank you. Is it like a 12"x 12" ?
@@syfodias-jedimasteryes it is a 12 x 12.
Sorry the notifications didn't show your question.
@@OldSneelock np. Found em online already a while back n job is complete. Ty
Where did you buy the tiles from?
Menards. 😁😎
@@OldSneelock thanks
Can u paint over these tiles
I have seen it done. It isn't great but in a pinch it is better than dirt and water stains.
Kilz makes a primer that will block bleed through.
Where did you get them
10 years ago at Menards in Kalamazoo.
Union City, Pa?
Thanks for using our PowerShot staple gun! #ArrowStrong
Arrow Fastener I purchased dozens of them for stapling tags to pallets. The packaging department was having difficulty with tags falling off. Staples were the answer but hand stength was an issue with the standard staplers they were using. Not enough pressure to hold them in place and requiring two hands to cock the spring. Electrics and pneumatcs both had a cord or hose to drag around.
My wife had a Power Shot and she loved it. I bought 6 and then I just had to make up for "missing" staplers. They were showing up all over the shop.
Great design. Very ergonomic. No more carpal tunnel complaints. BRAVO
Seriously, this will sound stupid but those staplers have the staples coming out the bottom? Maybe that's why ours was so hard to use...
Thank you for the video, learn something new everyday.
There are no stupid questions. This stapler is different than the one most people are used to. It's called a Powershot stapler and it's made by Arrow. It works really well and has an advantage that when you are pushing on the handle it forces the end of the stapler into the object being stapled. The other style actually lifts the exit end of the stapler off of the surface. Also since you are pressing down on the handle with your whole arm it is easier to use than the type that relies on grip strength.
Thanks for asking.
www.amazon.com/Arrow-5700-PowerShot-Heavy-Staple/dp/B0001MQHZ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407348444&sr=8-1&keywords=powershot+stapler
Old Sneelock's Workshop That's the one we have but I believe it is a Craftsman, and we were trying to use it the traditional grip strength way. Needless to say it was very awkward.
Jonathan Sterling Glad that you have gained from watching. :-)
Power shots are a piece of junk, arrows are alot better, I prefer pneumatic, $35 gets you a good electric stapler -bradnailer
Is it possible these would contain asbestos?
Joseph Grn This particular type of tile normally doesn't contain asbestos. These aren't the fireproof type of ceiling tile. They look like the are made from wood fiber or paper.
I have run across suspended ceiling tiles that had asbestos in them but not this type. I have also supervised the removal of asbestos from several manufacturing buildings. Asbestos was commonly used up until the early 80's. It was an ingredient in flooring, pipe insulation, furnace cement, fireplaces, furnaces, boilers, and all manner of heating equipment. It also was used as a wall covering in the form of a whitish board thai is very brittle and breaks into fuzzy edged shards.
If you suspect that any tiles, or anything else, might have hazardous materials in them you should contact a professional inspector.
50th like but what was that intro 😂
ZIOS GAMER Long ago I wanted to add music to the intros. RUclips offered "free" tracks. Later when I went to monetize my vids the said they were all copywrite violations. I asked my son to play his high school marching bands cadence on my Trenton anvil. Until I found Incompetech, with their royalty free music it was the only music I owned.
Why not just take them all down and put some 1/2 sheet rock up there?
Sure that would be easy. Have you ever put up sheet rock?
Sir dywall is easy
Yes it is. So are tiles.
These tiles are a royal pain in the ass. They should be illegal.
They can be.
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