So true, after watching some of Eleanor's videos and always just listening about those parents that just didn't do anything or didnt think of certain situation anything... Breck's mom did everything she could. Absolutelly heartbreaking that police ignored an ADULT woman's concerns after giving them such a good reasons to AT LEAST type his name into the system...unbelivable. I wonder what those police officers thought after learning what happened to this boy. We can at least hope they have learned from this as well and will never ignore another calls like this.
No she didn't. If she tried her best she would have taken Brecks technology away the moment he started to change his personality. So all in all it's not her fault but she is partly to blame as well as the police and Breck.
Jessica Madison his mum actually took his tech away from him that’s why the murderer sent him a phone in those post. It’s not easy to remove equipment, kids have internet access at school and can use their friends stuff it’s not simple.
Unfortunately, both Breck’s mom & dad have said that they’ll always hold some guilt for what happened to him 😔 I think it’s just impossible to help the “what if’s”, even when you’ve tried everything. The father said he “sent Breck off to his death”, which is absolutely heartbreaking. The parents hold no blame whatsoever, but I think there will always be guilt even if it’s completely unwarranted.
@@isitoveryet9525 that’s so heartbreaking, she did everything she needed to do. She tried so hard. It’s not her fault that the police didn’t do their job.
Right? They say parents often will miss a lot of things but she never missed anything. She called the police and reported the grooming, she kept wanting this to be looked into and the police failed on that end. For Breck to die on her birthday is awful. May he rest in peace and may the family find peace about his passing
@Callaghan did you watch the video? She has clearly stated that this could have been all avoided so quickly if the police typed in Lewis' name on to the system when the mother made the first report about him. Then they'd see how Lewis already has been a threat to minors before.
I feel it was deliberate in order to hurt the mother. He's a psycho and needed this control over the family. The mum will never be able to celebrate and enjoy her birthday ever again because of this and he knows it.
@@lulu1111 I totally agree, I just rewatched this video and I really shred a tear before just the fact that she won't be able to celebrate her birthday again 😢😢
omg i went to orminston academy too!! do you remember when lewis would bring a briefcase to school everyday? i think the whole school knew he was a freak! sicko!
@@nataliarose1598 omg using a briefcase is such a psychopath thing. Lol just kidding, he actually sounds like a weird guy though. Why would someone lie about those things he said? Creepy.
Exactly. When she talked about supposed “consensual sex” I couldn’t help but get pissed off. He couldn’t have consented, he was just a kid. Also, there’s no such thing as consensual sex and un-consensual sex. It’s just sex and rape. Definitely poorly thought out on Eleanor’s part
@@tatemckinney2663 saying words like rape can trigger a lot of people, however she did record this years ago so she’s grown a lot and now properly thinks out her script i hope
@@tatemckinney2663 obviously not legally but she has to distinguish between him agreeing and him saying no, because it is different (basically rape vs statutory rape)
I think that probably one of the sadder aspects of this case is his parents moved to the UK because they thought it was safer than America. They so genuinely wanted to protect their children and they were still affected by violence. Edit: Guys, I wasn't saying the UK was "so much safer" I was saying that the parents were under the impression that it was safer because, living in the US you don't hear about gun crime (or really any kind of assault related crime) in the UK so it appears to be safer. Obviously violence is prevalent the world over but these people were just genuinely optimistic.
@@evangriffiths4921 Thanks! I was trying to be smart and use a word that I suck at using. I even Googled it. 😂 I'm just going to say impact from now on.
He probably wanted to make sure his confession was properly recorded so that he'd seem compliant. That doesn't make this ok, he's still a terrible person in every way
Yes! As soon as I heard this part, I thought Lewis wanted to have his version of what happened recorded fully before he could forget or mix up the words he had rehearsed. Because it also sounded like it was all very well thought in his head, and now he had to say it perfectly to the operator, since he knows the call is recorded. Argh. Such a horrible, horrible man.
I recently found my 13yr old talking to a "18yr old" online through fortnite.. he didnt sound 18, he sounded way older.. i shut that shit down straight away, he gave his number to this man and he was from the Netherlands, i blocked all communication, i have shown my boy this video and gave him massive lectures, and it scared him, so im hoping he is more aware now and not to give his number to any random....it is so scary and it terrifies me... this story broke my heart 💔 RIP Breck 💙
Gods job mama! That was definitely a creep!! I don’t care if people think that I am overprotective and making my kids too weary. When it comes to my kids I really don’t trust anyone.
The mom literally did EVERYTHING she was supposed to do.. a mother really does always knows best even if kids dont want to admit it. This is so crazy what kids will actually believe.
Kids are kids and their brains aren't fully developed (if I remember correctly it's not until their 20's) so their knowledge of stuff like that is at best minimal and they take many things as truths and cases like this are tragic on the behalf of the family, horrendous by the culprit, and frustration by the lack of police support. It fucking sucks, but on the lighter side it hopefully puts in motion and educates ways to further prevent this stuff from happening as often.
Watching his mom speak about the case on “Web of Lies” was pretty tough. She did her utmost to protect Breck from Lewis & unfortunately tragedy took him away 😔
I wish she had shut down his gaming account in the first place when she saw he was talking to this stranger. I understand why she wouldn’t of course, it would seem like a harsh punishment. But a kid spending 5+ hours gaming every day- especially when they’re barely ever seeing anyone in person- definitely shouldn’t be considered normal and should be a red flag as there is no way for a child to develop properly and learn to trust their gut instinct if almost all of their interactions are online. This case should serve as a warning to parents of how dangerous it can be for a child to become consumed by online life.
When I was a kid I would have poked some holes out of his secret services story I would have been like if you are then why are you telling for 1 and us 2
It's terrible that a mother had to lose her son because a few people didn't wanna type two words, I mean it's so sad, I can't believe Lewis would TAKE PICTURES and SEND them to Breck's own friends.
@Chocolate Stars not every older person is a bad influence so why punish someone for making an older friend? If they show that they are a bad influence on the kid then yeah take away whatever contact they have from that person. But in the eyes of many she did what she could. Don’t victim blame a mother who lost her son.
@Chocolate Stars i agree. and im sure she beats herself up about it too. i think what she is doing now, going around and telling others about the dangers, is great. so others wont wait so long to take action. and informing the children themselves of what to look out for.
@Chocolate Stars Barely even a family friend... If it's not family there is no reason an adult should be integrating themselves into kids playing as a group, period.
I wonder if she had been sharing her feelings about this with his dad? If he knew that his son was being groomed by an adult & still was so lax about where he was really going & what he was doing.
July, we had a week of lectures on different subjects like drugs and internet safety and first aid and body dysmorphia. She came in for the internet safety one and it was just heart breaking
I feel like they need to give anti-grooming talks to children/teens in schools, like minimum 8 years old, explain how to not bcs personally ive played online since i was like 7-8 and tho i dont talk to really anyone that i dont know, i feel kids should know how to avoid people like lewis, breck deserved so much better and it makes me sick ppl like lewis even exist
i was playing roblox at 7-8, and my chat was turned off until i turned 9 and passed this little test (basically my parents asking me what to do in cetain situations) and that helped me a lot, but i definitely agree
as someone who's been playing online games from 5 years old, I definitely agree. I've met a lot of creeps and dodgy people in my time. we've had a lot of talks about not being scammed online and not talking to strangers online but never anything about the signs of grooming and what to do
I can’t explain enough how thankful I am for this video. Had I not watched this, my 9 year old brother would’ve gone the same was a Breck. My brother, (for privacy reasons I’m going to change his name) let’s call him Isaac, was chatting with a 18 year old man named (again, changing names) Charlie. He has been grooming my little brother for 8 MONTHS. Eleanor Neale, you have saved a life. Eleanor Neale, you have saved my brother’s life! I am so thankful. I love you so much. My dedication to you will be endless. I love you so much! I wish nothing but the very best for you. Lots and LOTS of love, ace edit: thank you for all the support! he is now 11 and much safer online
As a big brother, I can say that internet grooming doesn't apply to just boys. I have a little sister, and there are more and more girls playing games online in each generation. I'm very protective of my sister, as my parents were with me. If Breck were still around, he would be just a year older than me. And Lewis Danes looks like a freaking child! I thought I had baby face, but at least I look within five years of my actual age! Danes (at age 18) looks like he's an eight year old with acne! He did himself in, sending himself to prison by committing such a despicable and heinous crime.
That Man In the Yellow Shirt 2000 fuck they go for girls more. We are more vularable because most teen girls(not all) have horrible self essteem. With me, I was 14 to16 on and off and had a horrible self image. But you have these older men wanting you and tellin you your pretty and wanted you dont even have to be attracted to these people just the fact that someone is giving attintion made the difference. You hear it with girls they usually have low self essteem and with boys thinking they are boys and arent going to be groomed.
When I have kids, if they ever ask to have sleepovers I’m dropping them off and meeting the parents, my kids will never take themselves off to mysterious sleepovers‼️ and if they say they’re going to a known friend, I’m ringing that friend’s parents to confirm all this‼️
This is a really good idea and while I really think this is definitely how you should do it be careful in what way you do it my parents always have done to for me I’m really glad they have but the way they did it it really felt like they had no trust in me and it always make ms feel distant from them so reassure them while you do it 🥰
Agree, this seems like a very good way of protecting your children from stuff but i also want to say that the mom did everything she could do and she def. didn't deserve this.
I'm going to share a story from my own experience with grooming and poor police work: I was 18 at the time and had a friend that was 15 - I talked to her parents and introduced myself, they were fine with the friendship! (We met at a comic con, people familiar with those events will know that it is hard to tell people's ages and its kinda awkward to ask straight up, we both thought we were the same age. Anyway I'm going off topic, I just wanted everyone to know I'm not a weirdo haha) After a few months she confided in me that she thought she was being groomed online, and sent me screenshots of conversations she had had with the person. Some of the comments were wildly inappropriate and he kept pushing her to send photos and meet up. And she had told him where she lived, because she was naive and didn't realise the danger.I advised her to block him and contact the police, because obviously him knowing where she lived was dangerous, but she didn't feel comfortable so asked if I would do it on her behalf. So I said i would have the initial conversation, but that there was only so much I could do and that they would want to speak to her as I was an adult and not the victim. Anyways, I called and told them the whole story and offered to email screenshots of these conversations. However, all they were interested in was me. They kept ignoring what I was saying and focusing on our ages, asking 'how do you know your friend?' 'How old did you say you both were again?' 'What's your full name?' 'Do you talk often?' 'Do you meet up with her or are your conversations purely online?' amongst other things. I understand that they wanted to verify my own identity and the nature of the adult/minor friendship, but it was INTENSE. I understand that it isn't a usual thing for a 15 year old and an 18 year old to be friends, but I was upset that they wouldn't listen to me. They were treating me like I was grooming my friend. (Were still friends btw, she's now 18 and I'm 21). Eventually, literal MONTHS later I found out this guy was on trial for rape of another young girl because it was on the local news. I can't help but think that if the police had taken my report seriously rather than questioning me like I was in the wrong, that girl wouldn't have had to go through that 🥺 Absolutely awful police work, I gave them the full name of the guy and they didn't so much as check it! I don't know if he had prior convictions but really? It's awful.
Wow, that's... pretty fkn bad on the part of law enforcement. I've had many older friends w/years between us in highschool even, so it's not that unusual. I get having to verify identity and all of that, but the more important thing was that you were calling on behalf of the victim, as a friend - you weren't calling as a perpetrator. I do commend you for calling though!! Most people wouldn't do that :) I hope you and your friend are doing alright
The fact that they didn't even look into the information you were offering is just terrible. I had a friend from my old military school who turned 18 in his senior year just a month before graduation (I was 14 at the time) and he was like an awesome big brother to me. I was harassed by a boy in my science class and when I reported this other boy the staff instantly looked at my friend and thought I was trying to cover up for him. It's understandable why people would look at the older person in the situation because of cases that have happened in the past, but it seems like people just get tunnel vision on one suspect, even when there is evidence of another person causing an issue. I hope your friend is okay, and I really hope that man is put behind bars and never let out.
it’s so important to talk about this stuff. im 17 now and i look back on conversations and “friendships” i had with older people on line when i was 12-14 where i was definitely being groomed. as a kid you honestly just don’t realize it and i’m so grateful that i didn’t put myself in a situation where i could’ve been in physical danger.
That phone call is so so chilling. The clinical way he describes what he did and the detail it just makes my skin crawl.He was obviously enjoying describing what he had done. When he said "don't interrupt me at this part" it was most likely because that would've ruined his retelling and the fantasising.
Yeah no doubt, he had a big ego and didn't feel bad about what he did because he felt Breck was beneath him. He even treats the phone operator like she is inferior by not letting her speak.
I still find it very strange that he went to so much trouble to set up his alibi & then called the police himself. Plus sending pics to friends. Very, very strange boy!!!
Nah, I don't think so. The detailed and clinical description actually suggests he was lying about it. He probably came up with the story and was trying to set up attenuating circumstances already.
Panonymous Bloom .....not necessarily. BTK went into great detail because he fantasized about it. Great details in writing. Needing to live the fantasy and to remember it was no longer fantasy but had really happened, were obviously really important to him.
@@WyattRyeSway Yes but I feel it's different. Like, remember that this crime is still very fresh in his mind and he described it basically without any emotion - not forgetting any details, like any normal person would, not returning to any point in the story to add any details. he doesn't even seem to be excited or anything, not like he's reliving but like he's desperately trying to dig himself out his mess. He literally sounds like he's reciting a presentation in front of his class. Hell, maybe he even had written what he should say before, we don't know, it was only a phone call. It surely sounds like it. He sounds annoyed at the interruption because he lost the track of his thoughts, and doesn't know where to return to. Whatever he tried to do with this phonecall, he failed spectacularly lmao.
i met brecks mom last year, and she was so incredibly sweet and genuine about her son's death. she truly didn't deserve this, she's such a kind soul and she's so incredible for talking about it
yummy bear she goes into schools to talk about how important internet safety is and how she lost her son she came into my high school and talked about iy
Lewis has it out for Brecks mother... he killed her son on her birthday. Manipulated him to not trust his mother. Changed her picture from a dancing woman to a witch. Then harasses her and the family after being in jail. 😥
Not that this excuses it at all, but apparently Lewis Daynes was abandoned by his own mother. His parents weren't there for him growing up, and it was likely that he harbored some resentment towards them, which manifested itself in this crime.
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@@courtneygardner64 i think she means his life was beautiful and how hes described. And let’s be real if an ugly person was murdered ppl would still see beauty in the poor victim.
He went to St. Bede's, the high school next to mine. He was in the year above me and I knew him well because my dad was friends with his mum. My dad actually went to his funeral. He was a really wonderful, kind guy and we all say this couldn't have happened to a more lovely person. It makes me feel sick to my stomach that he was killed in such a callous, planned way. It's so sad.
It honestly makes me so sick knowing how the police just disregarded a parents concern for her son being groomed and if they had just did their job this could have all been avoided, so sad
Mark O lewis daynes is the only one really to blame. however, it is very disappointing that the police could’ve simply searched his name & most likely, none of this would’ve happened. you have no idea how extensive the lies he made breck tell his father were. personally, when i was 14, if i asked my patents to stay over somewhere & told them who & where, they would never question it because they trust me & they were right in those situations as obviously i’m fine now. so that was probably what happened with his father & clearly, breck was usually very well behaved & trustworthy so they had no reason to no believe him, especially as they thought he hadn’t been talking to lewis for ages. don’t blame the father, that’s a singular person who probably regrets his seemingly innocent actions so much whereas the police are an entity, some of which who need to learn to do their jobs better. if the mum was concerned enough to call the police about the situation, they could’ve simply searched his name & that would mean the situation with the father most likely never would’ve occurred.
Emily H that’s what they’re supposed to do 😐 but the police is super corrupt almost everywhere but that’s what happens when you give people w egos power
This case really like really breaks my heart for some reason. I feel so much emotional agony that someone who was so innocent and kind was taken from this world in such a cruel way
Same! Especially when his mother tried SO HARD to keep him safe and still failed... Like that break my heart that she still couldn't save him. Such a pure soul was taken and it's so sad. I hope his mother doesn't blame herself. Of course parents usually do but she actually TRIED and did everything she could.
Mine too. I have a cousin who is a gamer and this makes me really worried for him. I've warned him to be careful online. Child grooming and sexual abuse is absolutely disgusting and abhorrent.
The mother of Breck came to my school in Surrey. Absolutely heartbreaking to see her talk about this in person. One small innocent year 2 asked where Breck was now, mother took it very well but you could tell she was crying inside.
nah, i’d rather lewis rot in a cell for the rest of his life. plus, criminals who harm children get the worst treatment from other inmates and rightly so.
@@molly386 Usually I would agree with this, but he has gotten internet access and repeatedly harassed Breck's family. Like dude deserves the Electric and I can't stress this enough Chair. The "Justice" system seriously failed this family, time and time again.
his mum came to our school and told us about breck and what happened to him. to hear it come from his mother was absolutely heartbreaking, she was telling us how after his death she was bedridden for a whole year and it extremely effected her mental health. i couldn’t even begin to imagine how hard it would’ve been on the family and my love and respect goes out to all of them💔
Poor Breck, rest in peace. This story made me realize that I have been groomed as a kid. I don't remember how old I was but I must have been 13 or less. I met this "boy" online , I don't remember a lot but "we" agreed to meet. So I took a bus, and went to meet him (I am from a small village so I travelled to a city where we were supposed to meet at a bus station). This was before cell phone era, so he just told me what he would be wearing and the place where he would be. So I got off the bus, and went to the spot we were supposed to meet. I remember seeing him from afar and I got the feeling that something was off (he also looked older that he was supposed to be - definitely not my age). So I turned around and went back home without ever approaching him. I always felt guilty that I stood up this poor "boy", but literally after I finished watching this video.. and after 22 years after this "almost" meeting, it clicked. Now I believe that I made a really smart decision not go to that man. I just feel a bit stupid that I agreed to a meeting in first place. But I mean, 22-23 years ago.. the internet was starting, I had no idea what could happen.
I find it EVEN MORE heartbreaking that the parents had a hard time getting pregnant with Him. And they finally have this miracle and have the baby and don’t get to enjoy the huge milestones with their first son. Of course they have the triplets, but it’s still so sad.
I'm always hit especially hard by cases where the person was born the same year as me because I think about how they should be doing all the same things I'm doing and instead they're just dead and it always makes death feel a bit less distant and makes me appreciate how lucky I am still to be here
Far as demographics go, I'm a 31 year old male farmer in Oklahoma, U.S. You do great work, and acknowledging your younger demographic like that, and informing them of these dangers, likely has and will save lives. Keep up the great work!
He is a complete narcissistic pyschopath with an obsessive fixation on sadistic control. The way he tried to manipulate the mother and try and tell her how to raise her son, the way he spoke to the police operator asking her not to interrupt. He should never be allowed out, he will repeat offend and never change.
He went to my primary and secondary school and was such a well rounded person. I didn’t know him very well because I was in the year above but he was always smiling, surrounded by friends, liked by teachers and just seemed a nice person. I was at a party when someone told me he’d been murdered and everyone was shocked and in silence. His form room was next to mine and I’d see him almost everyday and it became very noticeable that he wasn’t there anymore. Our school did an assembly the week before he died on meeting people over the internet but apparently he didn’t think he was in the same situation. Such a shame and a lovely family are now missing their dear son. I can’t even imagine their pain but I hope they are able to carry on and let Breck live through them. Rest in peace Breck 🤍
While i was growing, my mom never allowed me to visit friend's houses that she didn't know personally and never let me go out with them without talking to their parents first. At the time i thought she was just being dramatic, but now that i'm 19, i understand why she did it.
Murders with a sexual element are the absolute worst to me. You've just experienced one of the worst crimes imaginable, and now you don't even get the chance to heal from it. Instead you murdered (more often than not brutally)
i am nobody ik, just the phrasing seems like you’re saying that this is one of the saddest cases because breck had a future, as if the other cases aren’t sad and that they didn’t have futures.
Amber Morgan teens don’t always like listening to their parents; I know I didn’t though I wasn’t in this kind of situation. Breck was warned that Lewis wasn’t a good influence, but he probably had blinders on and they didn’t come off until it was too late. In no way would I ever blame Breck because he didn’t know this was a man who would end up harming or murdering him. A life taken too soon and robbed of a bright future and his loving family
"I believe I did this, and I believe I did that, and then, I believe, I cut his throat" This isn't like some greater unknown force here, dude, this is you killing someone. You murdered a child, you didn't accidentally crush the tooth fairy.
This case hit me so freaking hard in the feels. It just hit home. When I was 17, my brother was 11 or 12. We played that old game Disney’s Toontown Online (do you guys remember that?! Throwback!) Anyway one day we joined a group of other people who very often went out and did task together, made funny music videos for RUclips, and just explored in the game. They called themselves The Leaves and everyone had nature based names, cute right? Well we had actually joined them because an online friend of ours, a girl my age, that we had met on a Minecraft server was like “it’s kind of fun and they’re all super nice” so we tagged along. Everyone had a green character, either a cat or dog, and it was just cool to have people to actually play the game with. None of us ever talked outside of the game, no Skype, no discord, no Facebook, just the game. One day we met the “leader” of the group. He called himself Tree (we never told each other our real names, why would we?) well he said he was 19 years old, not weird, a lot of teenagers played the game, even grown adults, it was fun and nostalgic and super stress relieving. He was nice, and always told the younger kids in the group to be polite as he didn’t want other players associating the group with online bullies. He seemed nice, though I only personally spoke to him a few times. As time went on he started sharing personal news just stuff like his family moving into a bigger house and he wouldn’t have WiFi to play the game for a few days, or that school had gotten busy. He later told everyone he was in Law School. I was like....Um okay.....I doubt it. Maybe he means he’s studying law and prepping for law school, whatever. Then he dropped a bomb. “My family is rich, we live in a big mansion. I’m dropping out of law school to start my own company” The kids, including my brother thought he was so cool. But me and Petal (our Minecraft friend who asked us to join this group with her) didn’t believe it. We called him out on it when we were the only 3 online. He got mad and defended himself. We still didn’t believe him. More lies followed like, his company had just hired a few employees and a game was being developed. He has just bought a corvette, he was moving out of his parents house into his own mansion, blah blah blah. Petal and I kept calling him out on it, telling these kids not to believe him because he was most likely lying. They got mad at us and told Tree who kicked us out! My brother would say things like “he doesn’t want you around, he hates you, why would he lie?, mind your own business. Later on I created a fake account and asked to join them, only petal knew, as she did the same. We were worried this guy was an online predator, in fact we knew he was. They didn’t suspect a thing and let us in. We acted as if we believed Tree and just played along. Soon enough Tree just disappeared for about 2 months. The group continued as usual, basically forgetting about Tree and invited Petal and I back because we were the oldest now and they wanted a moderator. Cool, all was normal. 8 months passed and Tree just showed up again. He told everyone his game had launched and that’s why he was gone so long, but this time nobody believed him. They asked where to buy the game, he gave a link to one person in the group, Petal. What she saw was scary as f*ck. She was so scared she wouldn’t even tell me what it was, she just said, I know him irl, he’s 19 but he’s not who he says he is and I’m gonna go call the cops. I freaked out because my brother had befriended this fool! They were close! I never told our parents, I wanted to handle it on my own. The next day Petal told everyone that he was no good. He was a predator. Turns out, he was gone so long as he had been caught with a minor, a minor! He had been in jail, mom bailed him out. She later told me that he had sent her the link to his secondary FB account with inappropriate pics of him with young girls and boys. The other kids got so scared. My brother apologized to me and the kid was soon kicked off the game. Be careful online guys. You never know who’s out there. My brother now only games with his real life friends. Petal stopped online gaming a year later when she started college. I don’t online game often, only with my brother and friends. Not sure what happened to Tree but I hope he never hurt anyone and is rotting in Prison or Hell. Even now, as a 28 year old woman, I am so careful online. You should too.
I always thought my mom was strict and “exaggerated” with these topics, she told me to never talk with strangers or approach them, to never leave or get in a stranger’s car, and literally any kind of advice, and now I realized that some people do fall for it. So sad that things like this need to happen for someone to be behind bars.
Same. If you hear a report involving a minor (or report period) CHECK ON IT. He had his whole life ahead of him and he was so happy. I don't believe his family or himself deserved that at all
@@nz_mose5079 that makes him more sick, not less. Calling the police, pretending to be innocent, as opposed to just running, and then acting the same in your normal life, is horrific.
@@nz_mose5079 there's something in common majority of these killers have and that's exploring the Dark Web in their early teens.... The obsession seems to fester inside until they too act out what they watch. 💀☠️
Breck’s mother visited my school, as one of the teachers there had previously taught Breck, and even though she radiated positivity, her suffering and emotion was clear. Hearing her tell Brecks story in person was heartbreaking and shame on the police for not doing something quicker. May Breck rest in peace.
As a parent it's so scary to know his mother did absolutely everything she could've to prevent this. His father sincerely thought he was just being a good dad and supporting his son. My heart goes out to the family. I truly can't begin to Imagine how horrible and traumatic this whole event must have been
Lewis probably did it purposely on Breck's mother's birthday because he knew that she didn't like him since he had heard those recordings from those meetings and he knew she was trying to stop him
Matthew The tiger It happens in the US as well. Inmates regularly updating their social media and calling their loved ones from their cell phones... Shit is crazy.
I got groomed online too when I was very young. I feel like I'm lucky that I never met anyone irl. I feel sorry for these kids who weren't as lucky as me :(
@@tiny631 i know, i was adding to their comment. She tried her hardest and it still didn’t work but she would have blamed herself probably, although there was absolutely nothing she could do anymore
my heart aches for his mom, she fought so hard for her son, she did everything you are supposed to do as mother and she lost her son to a sick individual. I hope the police officers who did nothing got fired and that Lewis rots in hell.
Breck used to go to my school and they talk about the case so much, as the sad story of Breck’s murder shook the whole school, and now they are really strict on cyber bullying and being careful online and this video, gave me so much more information and now I finally know the whole story not just the basics, I am so sorry for the loss of this wonderful, smart, young man who deserved so much better than this x
I went to brecks school it’s called saint bedes in redhill Surrey so his mum worked with our school a lot I actually spoke to him like 3 times and he is very nice
I can so relate to mental health. I have not been on holiday abroad for 22 years and I can not even stay one night away from home. Love your videos. Glad you are feeling better.
If the police would’ve typed 2 words a life would’ve been saved a family wouldn’t be grieving and a dangerous person would be in jail Imagine how the Taxi driver felt tho Rip Breck
It makes me sick to my stomach that his mother called the police and this could have been stopped. I can't imagine what she's gone through. I hope she knows she is the best parent she could ever be and did everything to protect her children. What a strong woman. ❤️
it's so disgusting that poor breck's mother literally tipped the police off so long ago and gave suspect's and future perpetrator's full name and they just sat on the information and didn't bother to look into it! i think they are almost as much to blame as lewis. and i've got two words for that guy. electric chair. i was so sorry to hear about you struggling again at the end of the video. i'm happy each time you update, and i hope all the best for you emotionally as well 💕
I know right! In every single crime stories that I watch, it is always the police that is not doing their responsibility... It is so infuriating... At this points, the police is as guilty as that freaking killer! I’m feeling so sorry to Breck’s mother... :(
Pedophiles are getting more clever with grooming children and it's sick. Unfortunately kids around the ages of 11-15 are at the age that they want to be independent and they want to think they know everything so when you tell them they're being groomed, they get mad and say "no I'm not I know what I'm doing!!" And it's really unfortunate because the hardest victims to save are the ones that don't want to be. It's just so heartbreaking. I know this isn't relevant to this case exactly but recently internet pedophiles have been targeting young and lonely LGBT kids and they've been trying to tell them that they're the same by claiming that pedophile is an oppressed sexuality. And these kids just don't know any better. I'm so infuriated with the police department. Some 9 to 5 beat cop receptionist couldn't take the four goddamn seconds to type in the name in the database and a promising young boy is dead now because of it. I really hope whoever took that call and ignored it knows. I hope they know. I hope they know that this man was in the system and that they could have stopped this and I hope it eats at them. He was only a child that wanted to make friends. All I can hope is that he didn't suffer. I just hope that if he was assaulted by this demon of a man that it was after his death so he wouldn't have to suffer through an attack like that. May this sweet child Rest In Peace knowing his killer is behind bars.
So im here 31:55 i to the video. And when i hear the voice of lewis i realize that i had heard this story before from i believe one of shane dawsons videos. And my mouth DROPPED. You gave in so much detail into this video that i literally thought that this was a completely different story and i felt this hit me more in the heart then when i heard shane briefly talk about it. Don’t get me wrong i love shane but that just shows how incredible your content and story telling skills are! Keep up the awesome work!!!
Joslin Lopez I knew I heard this story somewhere, and it was Shane Dawson. This story is explained so well, she’s so dedicated. Poor thing that happened to this young boy though.
Man this really fucked me off! The mother rang the police with suspicion her young son was being groomed!! Why the frick did they not step in immediately! I’m really not ok with this video usually I can watch them but this one messed with me. I have a 12 year old brother who plays online a lot
Honestly, shoddy law work is a main reason for these things. A lot of laws just sort of; make the police incapable of doing shit until things get really bad
I can't even imagine how terrified Breck must've felt, he was an Innocent child with SO much potential. God forbid Lewis ever gets out but if he does who wanna come to England 🙌🏻
Eleanor I love watching what you post. It's a little addictive. I'm in my 40's and I live in Australia. I really am completely intrigued by the psychology of people. Your posts really help us to understand the stories of these victims. They certainly have been me wondering how the psyche of the people doing the crimes works. Thank you Eleanor for sharing the stories of these people and so proud of you for self caring x
Nets K she did actually , but Lewis the predator was a step ahead and sent him a phone in the mail that Brett mom never knew he even had. So after while they gave back his stuff because his behavior had improved & grades, but it was because Brett was still secretly in contact with Lewis. It’s just really so sad how this mastermind manipulator took advantage of this kid. The mom did everything right by reporting his name to police and they didn’t do their job or even search the name smh
Hellixz ah I see, I must have missed that bit. I know she tried but it think I’d have removed his console myself. Totally not blaming her you understand, she didn’t know what was eventually going to happen. I think if my kid had a phone they where using slyly I’d have figured out quite quickly too, maybe mine are just easier to read, I don’t know. Police sure could have stopped it!
@@netsk1679 I believe because Breck had gone back to the way he was before Lewis, she truly believed he was out of contact. She did remove his electronics and contacted police. A lot more than a lot of parents would do. But her and Breck were failed every step of the way by both Lewis and the police. :( And in teenage years children will obviously change and some will rebel even without an influence like Lewis. My mom noticed changes in me when I was going through a grooming situation but our family had already been going through a lot beforehand, so I was already acting off. And some kids are better at hiding stuff than others, y'know?
I had a conversation about parenting with my dad back when i was a teenager, i was upset he didnt like my current toxic bf and wanted me to break up with him. Back then my dad said to me that he is my parent first before he is my friend, he doesnt 'need' me to like him, he needs me to listen and respect him as a parent. Long short story, i listened to him, cut off my toxic ex and my grades went up again. Had my dad been too lenient back then, i wouldnt really listen to him nor understand how serioud the condition is.
This is the thing that baffles me. When I was growing up, everyone knew not to use your real name online, never give your address, never share your age. It was seen as weird to tell people who you are, or where you live. But slowly, somehow, this changed. Now you need to be connected to accounts using your real name. Everyone just posts pictures of where they are, who they're with. It's mental.
Facebook started it. Changed the online landscape for the worse. Before that, it was standard to use screen names and protect your identity. Then Zuckerberg convinced the normies to get online and share full names, locations, photos, emloyers, schools, all their data so he could sell it to app developers and advertisers. And here we are. People think it's normal to put your whole stupid life online. The internet pre-2009 was the best internet. Fun, not regulated and people had more common sense. Kids shouldn't be on social media, full stop. Ever. Nobody under 18 should have the right to an account. They're too dumb and inexerienced to ever understand how others see them as easy meat.
@@littleblackpistol Ugh I remember Facebook. I was in my senior year of high school and I saw an older friend log in to his university's Facebook portal. It was limited to those with college email addresses then. And then things went down hill from there. When you really do trace it, it's all back to Facebook. People ask me why I stopped using my account after university. Well, I don't need it anymore as I was just using it because everyone in my classes were communicating on it. I'm sure it'd be as easy for others to not use it as well, if everyone just got off it.
The drop in tone that you do when it comes to the murder or hurt part of these stories happen is truly amazing, Eleanor. It’s a simple tone change but so thoughtful.
Siobhan O'Connor More likely a psychopath, as he was very scheming and preplanned his murder. Sociopaths often do something bad without thinking and psychopaths plan greatly on it.
@@crissy4445 I'm sorry but autism would not explain an 18 year old feeling no remorse over MURDERING a child, also most autistic people find it very hard to lie
brecks mum came into my primary school and told us all about this but obviously couldnt put it into this much detail. this case infuriates me so much cause i live so close to them 🥺
She’s really become a terrific advocate for protecting other youths from suffering the same tragedy. Believe she’s even trying to work with legislation to try and get a law passed in her son’s name
i went to the same school as lewis, we went to orminston academy! he was older than me but everyone thought and said he was a weirdo because he always carried a briefcase with him! he always gave off creepy vibes!
Thank you for making this video, I’ve been “friends” with a guy online for about a year now and i’ve always had a bad feeling about him and have been super careful around him... While watching this I was able to make some comparisons between him and this man and I’m officially deciding to cut all ties with him. Thank you.
I think its really commendable that his mum now goes round schools and gives talks about this and internet safety with parents, teachers and students, she came to my school a little while back and it was very emotional to hear this story come from her directly. So glad you mad a video on it.
I don't think it will help correct anything she thinks she didn't do at the time. if anything, this sort of thing makes people worse. Fromt he junkie that feels the urge to tell people not to take drugs to the criminal that goes around telling children not to act as they have. It's a bad idea to treat this as some sort of excusal or therapy.
The amount of times I hear 'but unfortunately police didn't [blank] so nothing ever came of it' in these stories is just heartbreaking. It's all well and good that they solved the crime eventually, but it should never have happened in the first place, and you just can't help but wonder in disgust at how many of these cases could've never even been cases if they'd done their damn job right. This case is heartbreaking. I'm so glad the family is using this awful tragedy to spread awareness to others. A friend of mine was murdered a few years ago, her name was Bianca Faith Girven, it was such an... Indescribably awful thing to happen. Her family started a charity and awareness campaign for domestic abuse survivors, they spend a lot of time on it now, it was one of the only things giving the family peace, closure, purpose. I can see that same drive in Breck's mum, I wish her the best of luck with her work.
Unfortunately, the police I the uk dont have much money as the government keep slashing their budget in order to line their own pockets. Police in my hometown dont have enough money to even pay for petrol to leave the station sometimes...
Bryn Jackson ik what being groomed is and it’s not so easy you just think u have it under control but then you become friends with that person and it just seems so real right now I’m probably being groomed and u just can’t exactly now it u feel like oh yeah he is a friend he must be maybe ugly that is why he doesn’t show his face and u two become so close he convinces you to go to where he lives and u just wanna see that person’s face so u try it all like I am gonna do this summer wish me luck with that guy..
Mark O and then what? Break would be so ashamed and cry, maybe it’s better than dying but if they’re parents got to now what he was planning they would have struggled so hardly with everything especially his parents
I've been watching you for a few years now. I landed on this case a few times then decided to look for more videos on it. I watched until the end & even though it's 4 years later. Listening to how happy you are at the end & loving being a youtuber. The most purest moment I've seen from a creator I've ever seen. My heart. 💙💙
I want to hug her so much. It’s absolutely devastating that her efforts to save Breck were for naught by the end. However she’s been such an advocate for protecting other youths from a similar fate
if the police had just typed up two words then a 14 year old boy wouldn’t have died
Yeah! that part genuinely infuriates me
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fuck the police
it’s so heartbreaking that his mum tried the best she possibly could and was so observant yet she couldn’t help him
So true, after watching some of Eleanor's videos and always just listening about those parents that just didn't do anything or didnt think of certain situation anything... Breck's mom did everything she could. Absolutelly heartbreaking that police ignored an ADULT woman's concerns after giving them such a good reasons to AT LEAST type his name into the system...unbelivable. I wonder what those police officers thought after learning what happened to this boy. We can at least hope they have learned from this as well and will never ignore another calls like this.
She just wanted her baby back 😭
ela morgant just shows how manipulative Lewis was
No she didn't. If she tried her best she would have taken Brecks technology away the moment he started to change his personality. So all in all it's not her fault but she is partly to blame as well as the police and Breck.
Jessica Madison his mum actually took his tech away from him that’s why the murderer sent him a phone in those post. It’s not easy to remove equipment, kids have internet access at school and can use their friends stuff it’s not simple.
She literally moved to the UK to protect her baby 🥺😔
She should have looked-up that murder rates are the same, over there. They just don't do it with guns. 🤪
@@miastrong151 I didn’t ask tho.
@@yas6616 I mean, if you care about safety, you should be scientific. Otherwise, that is called dis-crim-in-a-tor-y.
@@miastrong151 i just dont think I asked tho?
It truly is a sad case, I hope his siblings are doing okay too, I can’t imagine how hard to is to lose an older brother
I hope brecks mom never thinks it’s her fault because she did exactly what a mother should do to protect their child
I pray for her and his family and friends to not bear the blame♥️💓💕❤️may they find healing 🙏🏿RIP Breck💕💓💖
THISSS!!! so many parents turn a blind eye towards this. so many parents ik today just let their kids have social media and talk to people
Unfortunately, both Breck’s mom & dad have said that they’ll always hold some guilt for what happened to him 😔 I think it’s just impossible to help the “what if’s”, even when you’ve tried everything. The father said he “sent Breck off to his death”, which is absolutely heartbreaking. The parents hold no blame whatsoever, but I think there will always be guilt even if it’s completely unwarranted.
@@isitoveryet9525 that’s so heartbreaking, she did everything she needed to do. She tried so hard. It’s not her fault that the police didn’t do their job.
Right? They say parents often will miss a lot of things but she never missed anything. She called the police and reported the grooming, she kept wanting this to be looked into and the police failed on that end.
For Breck to die on her birthday is awful. May he rest in peace and may the family find peace about his passing
Police work is absolutely shocking on this case. Breck could have been saved.
Lily just to think that he could be having a happy life and police didn’t do anything is disgusting
That’s the UK for you
It's ridiculous they didn't do anything
@Callaghan did you watch the video? She has clearly stated that this could have been all avoided so quickly if the police typed in Lewis' name on to the system when the mother made the first report about him. Then they'd see how Lewis already has been a threat to minors before.
Callaghan it’s in the video what
On his mother's birthday? I👏 really👏 want👏 to👏 fight👏 Lewis.
I'll help.
I feel it was deliberate in order to hurt the mother. He's a psycho and needed this control over the family. The mum will never be able to celebrate and enjoy her birthday ever again because of this and he knows it.
@@lulu1111 I totally agree, I just rewatched this video and I really shred a tear before just the fact that she won't be able to celebrate her birthday again 😢😢
You can borrow all my knives if u want (I have a collection, for varying purposes)
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I went to the same school as Lewis, he always creeped me out. Horrible person. May Breck rest in peace.
He looks like such a fucking weirdo
Some people just instantly give you those creepy feelings in our gut.... we should listen to those feelings. They’re very rarely wrong.
omg i went to orminston academy too!! do you remember when lewis would bring a briefcase to school everyday? i think the whole school knew he was a freak! sicko!
@@nataliarose1598 omg using a briefcase is such a psychopath thing. Lol just kidding, he actually sounds like a weird guy though. Why would someone lie about those things he said? Creepy.
how did he creep you out? (just curious)
The sex could never have been consensual Lewis was an 18 year old man and breck was a 14 year old boy
Yeah, Breck literally *couldn’t* consent.
And also he was in love and very happy with this girl!!!
Exactly. When she talked about supposed “consensual sex” I couldn’t help but get pissed off. He couldn’t have consented, he was just a kid. Also, there’s no such thing as consensual sex and un-consensual sex. It’s just sex and rape. Definitely poorly thought out on Eleanor’s part
@@tatemckinney2663 saying words like rape can trigger a lot of people, however she did record this years ago so she’s grown a lot and now properly thinks out her script i hope
@@tatemckinney2663 obviously not legally but she has to distinguish between him agreeing and him saying no, because it is different (basically rape vs statutory rape)
That boy In USA is so lucky his mum and dad didn't let him go
Joe Salmon who
+Pepto Bismol The first kid that Lewis tried to groom before Breck.
did you even watch the video ?
observed newt46 relax bitch ass
Sophie Rutigliano thank u 💕
I think that probably one of the sadder aspects of this case is his parents moved to the UK because they thought it was safer than America. They so genuinely wanted to protect their children and they were still affected by violence.
Edit: Guys, I wasn't saying the UK was "so much safer" I was saying that the parents were under the impression that it was safer because, living in the US you don't hear about gun crime (or really any kind of assault related crime) in the UK so it appears to be safer. Obviously violence is prevalent the world over but these people were just genuinely optimistic.
No place is 100% safe ever
Lovezys123 your right
It's so horrible and sad. I can't imagine how they felt when they found out about it from other people, and it was on the mother's birthday too. 😟
*affected
@@evangriffiths4921 Thanks! I was trying to be smart and use a word that I suck at using. I even Googled it. 😂 I'm just going to say impact from now on.
and he has the AUDACITY to say ‘Can you not interrupt me at this part?’
He probably wanted to make sure his confession was properly recorded so that he'd seem compliant. That doesn't make this ok, he's still a terrible person in every way
@@dgcfgvvgb6555 I'd say he just wanted to control as much as he could.
That's the nature of all sick narcissists they think that they are god like, and better than everyone else.😤😤😤🤮🤮🤮
Yes! As soon as I heard this part, I thought Lewis wanted to have his version of what happened recorded fully before he could forget or mix up the words he had rehearsed. Because it also sounded like it was all very well thought in his head, and now he had to say it perfectly to the operator, since he knows the call is recorded. Argh. Such a horrible, horrible man.
I recently found my 13yr old talking to a "18yr old" online through fortnite.. he didnt sound 18, he sounded way older.. i shut that shit down straight away, he gave his number to this man and he was from the Netherlands, i blocked all communication, i have shown my boy this video and gave him massive lectures, and it scared him, so im hoping he is more aware now and not to give his number to any random....it is so scary and it terrifies me... this story broke my heart 💔 RIP Breck 💙
through fortnite you got me scared
@@ILY.Isaiah at least you’ll be careful
@@bambiii787 trueee
Gods job mama! That was definitely a creep!! I don’t care if people think that I am overprotective and making my kids too weary. When it comes to my kids I really don’t trust anyone.
As a dutchie. I am so sorry that happend to you and your son.
just looking at lewis's face makes me feel very uncomfortable.
kwitten same it makes me so sad
He looks like an eleven year old with bad acne and a sunburn...
he’s so ugly
Bayblade Bayblade yes
he lowkey looks like cook from skins
The mom literally did EVERYTHING she was supposed to do.. a mother really does always knows best even if kids dont want to admit it. This is so crazy what kids will actually believe.
Kids are kids and their brains aren't fully developed (if I remember correctly it's not until their 20's) so their knowledge of stuff like that is at best minimal and they take many things as truths and cases like this are tragic on the behalf of the family, horrendous by the culprit, and frustration by the lack of police support. It fucking sucks, but on the lighter side it hopefully puts in motion and educates ways to further prevent this stuff from happening as often.
Watching his mom speak about the case on “Web of Lies” was pretty tough. She did her utmost to protect Breck from Lewis & unfortunately tragedy took him away 😔
I wish she had shut down his gaming account in the first place when she saw he was talking to this stranger. I understand why she wouldn’t of course, it would seem like a harsh punishment. But a kid spending 5+ hours gaming every day- especially when they’re barely ever seeing anyone in person- definitely shouldn’t be considered normal and should be a red flag as there is no way for a child to develop properly and learn to trust their gut instinct if almost all of their interactions are online. This case should serve as a warning to parents of how dangerous it can be for a child to become consumed by online life.
No she could've of taken the computer
When I was a kid I would have poked some holes out of his secret services story I would have been like if you are then why are you telling for 1 and us 2
His mom fought beyond her limit, she did everything a parent could and more. But the police failed her. Shame on them.
It's terrible that a mother had to lose her son because a few people didn't wanna type two words, I mean it's so sad, I can't believe Lewis would TAKE PICTURES and SEND them to Breck's own friends.
💔
This is awful, Breck’s mother literally did everything she could to protect him, and she was still let down by the police and lost her son.
It’s so tragic that her efforts to protect Breck couldn’t save his life 😔 no mother should ever have to go through this
@Chocolate Stars not every older person is a bad influence so why punish someone for making an older friend? If they show that they are a bad influence on the kid then yeah take away whatever contact they have from that person. But in the eyes of many she did what she could. Don’t victim blame a mother who lost her son.
@Chocolate Stars i agree. and im sure she beats herself up about it too. i think what she is doing now, going around and telling others about the dangers, is great. so others wont wait so long to take action. and informing the children themselves of what to look out for.
@Chocolate Stars Barely even a family friend... If it's not family there is no reason an adult should be integrating themselves into kids playing as a group, period.
I wonder if she had been sharing her feelings about this with his dad? If he knew that his son was being groomed by an adult & still was so lax about where he was really going & what he was doing.
His mum came in to my school and did a speech about internet safety.. it was heart breaking to here from her :(
Lizzie Watermellon when did she come to your school? X
July, we had a week of lectures on different subjects like drugs and internet safety and first aid and body dysmorphia. She came in for the internet safety one and it was just heart breaking
OMG same
Hear*
@Kitcat Pear really?!
I feel like they need to give anti-grooming talks to children/teens in schools, like minimum 8 years old, explain how to not bcs personally ive played online since i was like 7-8 and tho i dont talk to really anyone that i dont know, i feel kids should know how to avoid people like lewis, breck deserved so much better and it makes me sick ppl like lewis even exist
exactly and parents need to supervise them and get parental controls
i was playing roblox at 7-8, and my chat was turned off until i turned 9 and passed this little test (basically my parents asking me what to do in cetain situations) and that helped me a lot, but i definitely agree
We got that lesson in 6th grade (11 years old)
as someone who's been playing online games from 5 years old, I definitely agree. I've met a lot of creeps and dodgy people in my time.
we've had a lot of talks about not being scammed online and not talking to strangers online but never anything about the signs of grooming and what to do
❤️💕💓♥️❣️🙏🏿
I feel awful for Brecks friends. Imagine at 14 seeing a photo of your murdered friend. Traumitising.
I can’t explain enough how thankful I am for this video. Had I not watched this, my 9 year old brother would’ve gone the same was a Breck. My brother, (for privacy reasons I’m going to change his name) let’s call him Isaac, was chatting with a 18 year old man named (again, changing names) Charlie. He has been grooming my little brother for 8 MONTHS. Eleanor Neale, you have saved a life. Eleanor Neale, you have saved my brother’s life! I am so thankful. I love you so much. My dedication to you will be endless. I love you so much! I wish nothing but the very best for you. Lots and LOTS of love, ace
edit: thank you for all the support! he is now 11 and much safer online
I’m so glad you and your brother are safe🙌🏽
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He saw that with you?
As a big brother, I can say that internet grooming doesn't apply to just boys. I have a little sister, and there are more and more girls playing games online in each generation. I'm very protective of my sister, as my parents were with me. If Breck were still around, he would be just a year older than me. And Lewis Danes looks like a freaking child! I thought I had baby face, but at least I look within five years of my actual age! Danes (at age 18) looks like he's an eight year old with acne! He did himself in, sending himself to prison by committing such a despicable and heinous crime.
That Man In the Yellow Shirt 2000 fuck they go for girls more. We are more vularable because most teen girls(not all) have horrible self essteem. With me, I was 14 to16 on and off and had a horrible self image. But you have these older men wanting you and tellin you your pretty and wanted you dont even have to be attracted to these people just the fact that someone is giving attintion made the difference. You hear it with girls they usually have low self essteem and with boys thinking they are boys and arent going to be groomed.
When I have kids, if they ever ask to have sleepovers I’m dropping them off and meeting the parents, my kids will never take themselves off to mysterious sleepovers‼️ and if they say they’re going to a known friend, I’m ringing that friend’s parents to confirm all this‼️
This is a really good idea and while I really think this is definitely how you should do it be careful in what way you do it my parents always have done to for me I’m really glad they have but the way they did it it really felt like they had no trust in me and it always make ms feel distant from them so reassure them while you do it 🥰
Agree, this seems like a very good way of protecting your children from stuff but i also want to say that the mom did everything she could do and she def. didn't deserve this.
Ioana Enachi definitely no one to blame in this story but helped me know how to try to protect my kids when it comes to sleepovers 💔
my mum does this when i was younger i would be so angry telling her to get out of my business but she was trying to protect me
Dropping them off is not 100% ... Because they can still sneak out in the middle of the night.
I'm going to share a story from my own experience with grooming and poor police work:
I was 18 at the time and had a friend that was 15 - I talked to her parents and introduced myself, they were fine with the friendship! (We met at a comic con, people familiar with those events will know that it is hard to tell people's ages and its kinda awkward to ask straight up, we both thought we were the same age. Anyway I'm going off topic, I just wanted everyone to know I'm not a weirdo haha)
After a few months she confided in me that she thought she was being groomed online, and sent me screenshots of conversations she had had with the person. Some of the comments were wildly inappropriate and he kept pushing her to send photos and meet up. And she had told him where she lived, because she was naive and didn't realise the danger.I advised her to block him and contact the police, because obviously him knowing where she lived was dangerous, but she didn't feel comfortable so asked if I would do it on her behalf. So I said i would have the initial conversation, but that there was only so much I could do and that they would want to speak to her as I was an adult and not the victim.
Anyways, I called and told them the whole story and offered to email screenshots of these conversations. However, all they were interested in was me. They kept ignoring what I was saying and focusing on our ages, asking 'how do you know your friend?' 'How old did you say you both were again?' 'What's your full name?' 'Do you talk often?' 'Do you meet up with her or are your conversations purely online?' amongst other things. I understand that they wanted to verify my own identity and the nature of the adult/minor friendship, but it was INTENSE.
I understand that it isn't a usual thing for a 15 year old and an 18 year old to be friends, but I was upset that they wouldn't listen to me. They were treating me like I was grooming my friend. (Were still friends btw, she's now 18 and I'm 21).
Eventually, literal MONTHS later I found out this guy was on trial for rape of another young girl because it was on the local news. I can't help but think that if the police had taken my report seriously rather than questioning me like I was in the wrong, that girl wouldn't have had to go through that 🥺 Absolutely awful police work, I gave them the full name of the guy and they didn't so much as check it! I don't know if he had prior convictions but really? It's awful.
Wow, that's... pretty fkn bad on the part of law enforcement. I've had many older friends w/years between us in highschool even, so it's not that unusual. I get having to verify identity and all of that, but the more important thing was that you were calling on behalf of the victim, as a friend - you weren't calling as a perpetrator. I do commend you for calling though!! Most people wouldn't do that :) I hope you and your friend are doing alright
None of this is your or your friend’s fault in any way shape or form, I hope u guys are doing better now xoxoxo
Zzzzzss
I did
The fact that they didn't even look into the information you were offering is just terrible.
I had a friend from my old military school who turned 18 in his senior year just a month before graduation (I was 14 at the time) and he was like an awesome big brother to me. I was harassed by a boy in my science class and when I reported this other boy the staff instantly looked at my friend and thought I was trying to cover up for him.
It's understandable why people would look at the older person in the situation because of cases that have happened in the past, but it seems like people just get tunnel vision on one suspect, even when there is evidence of another person causing an issue.
I hope your friend is okay, and I really hope that man is put behind bars and never let out.
it’s so important to talk about this stuff. im 17 now and i look back on conversations and “friendships” i had with older people on line when i was 12-14 where i was definitely being groomed. as a kid you honestly just don’t realize it and i’m so grateful that i didn’t put myself in a situation where i could’ve been in physical danger.
i was just thinking this myself !
What were they doing to you that made it grooming? Just curious
That phone call is so so chilling. The clinical way he describes what he did and the detail it just makes my skin crawl.He was obviously enjoying describing what he had done. When he said "don't interrupt me at this part" it was most likely because that would've ruined his retelling and the fantasising.
Yeah no doubt, he had a big ego and didn't feel bad about what he did because he felt Breck was beneath him. He even treats the phone operator like she is inferior by not letting her speak.
I still find it very strange that he went to so much trouble to set up his alibi & then called the police himself. Plus sending pics to friends. Very, very strange boy!!!
Nah, I don't think so. The detailed and clinical description actually suggests he was lying about it. He probably came up with the story and was trying to set up attenuating circumstances already.
Panonymous Bloom .....not necessarily. BTK went into great detail because he fantasized about it. Great details in writing. Needing to live the fantasy and to remember it was no longer fantasy but had really happened, were obviously really important to him.
@@WyattRyeSway Yes but I feel it's different. Like, remember that this crime is still very fresh in his mind and he described it basically without any emotion - not forgetting any details, like any normal person would, not returning to any point in the story to add any details. he doesn't even seem to be excited or anything, not like he's reliving but like he's desperately trying to dig himself out his mess. He literally sounds like he's reciting a presentation in front of his class. Hell, maybe he even had written what he should say before, we don't know, it was only a phone call. It surely sounds like it. He sounds annoyed at the interruption because he lost the track of his thoughts, and doesn't know where to return to.
Whatever he tried to do with this phonecall, he failed spectacularly lmao.
i met brecks mom last year, and she was so incredibly sweet and genuine about her son's death. she truly didn't deserve this, she's such a kind soul and she's so incredible for talking about it
What?how?
yummy bear I did as well she came to my school
she came to my school a few years ago too
Same she came to my high school it was so sad
yummy bear she goes into schools to talk about how important internet safety is and how she lost her son she came into my high school and talked about iy
Lewis has it out for Brecks mother... he killed her son on her birthday. Manipulated him to not trust his mother. Changed her picture from a dancing woman to a witch. Then harasses her and the family after being in jail. 😥
Great point. It is very much about her too. I wonder why this obsession
Most likely because mom was on to him
Not that this excuses it at all, but apparently Lewis Daynes was abandoned by his own mother. His parents weren't there for him growing up, and it was likely that he harbored some resentment towards them, which manifested itself in this crime.
How is he not locked away with no chance of parole?
He sent pictures of what he did to his victims friends!
What the hell!!
So I'm an air cadet, and we still mourn him when we're on parade. It's such a sad case
We always think of him and respect him. Our prayers go out to him. My squadron will always remember him
Im a sea cadet but joining the air cadets soon
just a random person What do sea or air cadets do?
D.O Kyungsoo air cadets fly planes and sea cadets drive boats. we all shoot guns and stuff. it’s pretty fun. air cadets it’s for the raf and sea cadets are for the navy
I get rrly bad sea sickness yet im a sea cadet 😂
The boy was so beautiful, he never deserved this. Honestly, this case infuriates me.
Utterly disgusting from the descriptions given by the killer
Would he deserve it if he was ugly?
@@courtneygardner64 i think she means his life was beautiful and how hes described. And let’s be real if an ugly person was murdered ppl would still see beauty in the poor victim.
he had such a bright future its terrible
@@courtneygardner64 no one said that
being a child is terrifying
Imagine having a child, oh my god...
Being alive is terrifying tbh
He went to St. Bede's, the high school next to mine. He was in the year above me and I knew him well because my dad was friends with his mum. My dad actually went to his funeral. He was a really wonderful, kind guy and we all say this couldn't have happened to a more lovely person. It makes me feel sick to my stomach that he was killed in such a callous, planned way. It's so sad.
i go to st bedes
Isnt that Redhill?
It honestly makes me so sick knowing how the police just disregarded a parents concern for her son being groomed and if they had just did their job this could have all been avoided, so sad
Rebecca Li this is why I hate pigs😡😡😡
JLS Jay yet you’ll be the first to call them when you need that help
Mark O lewis daynes is the only one really to blame. however, it is very disappointing that the police could’ve simply searched his name & most likely, none of this would’ve happened. you have no idea how extensive the lies he made breck tell his father were. personally, when i was 14, if i asked my patents to stay over somewhere & told them who & where, they would never question it because they trust me & they were right in those situations as obviously i’m fine now. so that was probably what happened with his father & clearly, breck was usually very well behaved & trustworthy so they had no reason to no believe him, especially as they thought he hadn’t been talking to lewis for ages. don’t blame the father, that’s a singular person who probably regrets his seemingly innocent actions so much whereas the police are an entity, some of which who need to learn to do their jobs better. if the mum was concerned enough to call the police about the situation, they could’ve simply searched his name & that would mean the situation with the father most likely never would’ve occurred.
Emily H That is what the police is for 🙄🙄
Emily H that’s what they’re supposed to do 😐 but the police is super corrupt almost everywhere but that’s what happens when you give people w egos power
This case really like really breaks my heart for some reason. I feel so much emotional agony that someone who was so innocent and kind was taken from this world in such a cruel way
I feel exactly the same... This story really touched me, i feel so many different emotions and I can't really put them in words.
Same! Especially when his mother tried SO HARD to keep him safe and still failed... Like that break my heart that she still couldn't save him. Such a pure soul was taken and it's so sad. I hope his mother doesn't blame herself. Of course parents usually do but she actually TRIED and did everything she could.
Mine too.
I have a cousin who is a gamer and this makes me really worried for him. I've warned him to be careful online.
Child grooming and sexual abuse is absolutely disgusting and abhorrent.
The mother of Breck came to my school in Surrey. Absolutely heartbreaking to see her talk about this in person. One small innocent year 2 asked where Breck was now, mother took it very well but you could tell she was crying inside.
The mother and 3 of her children went to my sixth from and they were so nice, everyone just left seb to his own peace on the bus
How did the mother respond?
Lewis sounds “satisfied” during his 911 call. Despicable.
He was finally able to do what he wanted to do thats why he so proud what a fucking weirdo
Breck looked like such a sweet and loving boy 😔 I wish Lewis would get the electric chair
the toes hand them over we don’t have the death penalty here in england, unfortunately :(
Nah electric is to easy I would love to beat him and let him die painfully an slowly! Sick peopel in this world 😭🤮
dying is easy
nah, i’d rather lewis rot in a cell for the rest of his life. plus, criminals who harm children get the worst treatment from other inmates and rightly so.
@@molly386 Usually I would agree with this, but he has gotten internet access and repeatedly harassed Breck's family. Like dude deserves the Electric and I can't stress this enough Chair. The "Justice" system seriously failed this family, time and time again.
his mum came to our school and told us about breck and what happened to him. to hear it come from his mother was absolutely heartbreaking, she was telling us how after his death she was bedridden for a whole year and it extremely effected her mental health. i couldn’t even begin to imagine how hard it would’ve been on the family and my love and respect goes out to all of them💔
Danielle Goldring same :( x
Danielle Goldring yeah she came to my school aswell she seemed so upset she even started to cry :(
She came to my school too.
Wish she came to my school
Me too
I just walked into my daughter’s room and hugged her. This was so hard to watch.
Poor Breck, rest in peace. This story made me realize that I have been groomed as a kid. I don't remember how old I was but I must have been 13 or less. I met this "boy" online , I don't remember a lot but "we" agreed to meet. So I took a bus, and went to meet him (I am from a small village so I travelled to a city where we were supposed to meet at a bus station). This was before cell phone era, so he just told me what he would be wearing and the place where he would be. So I got off the bus, and went to the spot we were supposed to meet. I remember seeing him from afar and I got the feeling that something was off (he also looked older that he was supposed to be - definitely not my age). So I turned around and went back home without ever approaching him. I always felt guilty that I stood up this poor "boy", but literally after I finished watching this video.. and after 22 years after this "almost" meeting, it clicked. Now I believe that I made a really smart decision not go to that man. I just feel a bit stupid that I agreed to a meeting in first place. But I mean, 22-23 years ago.. the internet was starting, I had no idea what could happen.
Wow. You dodged a bullet on that one.
You dodged a bullet!
Ahhh I posted this without reading any other comments but yeah person above agrees lol bullet dodged
@@berlyngrey9242 haha
Always trust your instincts.
Damn, if you hadn't walked away, you could've died a horrible death
I find it EVEN MORE heartbreaking that the parents had a hard time getting pregnant with Him. And they finally have this miracle and have the baby and don’t get to enjoy the huge milestones with their first son. Of course they have the triplets, but it’s still so sad.
I'm always hit especially hard by cases where the person was born the same year as me because I think about how they should be doing all the same things I'm doing and instead they're just dead and it always makes death feel a bit less distant and makes me appreciate how lucky I am still to be here
Caitlin C-R same. He was born 12 days after me, same year.
Exactly
I was born a year after he was. This case just makes me sad..
Far as demographics go, I'm a 31 year old male farmer in Oklahoma, U.S.
You do great work, and acknowledging your younger demographic like that, and informing them of these dangers, likely has and will save lives.
Keep up the great work!
Ppl from Oklahoma are so weird lol
He is a complete narcissistic pyschopath with an obsessive fixation on sadistic control. The way he tried to manipulate the mother and try and tell her how to raise her son, the way he spoke to the police operator asking her not to interrupt. He should never be allowed out, he will repeat offend and never change.
He went to my primary and secondary school and was such a well rounded person. I didn’t know him very well because I was in the year above but he was always smiling, surrounded by friends, liked by teachers and just seemed a nice person. I was at a party when someone told me he’d been murdered and everyone was shocked and in silence. His form room was next to mine and I’d see him almost everyday and it became very noticeable that he wasn’t there anymore. Our school did an assembly the week before he died on meeting people over the internet but apparently he didn’t think he was in the same situation. Such a shame and a lovely family are now missing their dear son. I can’t even imagine their pain but I hope they are able to carry on and let Breck live through them. Rest in peace Breck 🤍
This so sad.
God Bless 🙏🏾💜, I’m so sorry about your loss 🙏🏾💜, may God protect over you all Amen 🙏🏾💜
was that caterham , i go there too
OscarJ no he only went to caterham for a year or 2 then changed, he went to primary school at St John’s then St Bedes
@Kayleigh Hayes so sorry for your loss
That boiling frog analogy, even though I’ve heard it before, makes me sad.
Don't worry about it too much, it's not true
@@norupologies5926 what?
It’s not true. The frog does jump out if the water gets too hot. It’s still a good analogy.
??????
It applies to a lot of stuff (whether true or not IRL). Political stuff comes to mind.
While i was growing, my mom never allowed me to visit friend's houses that she didn't know personally and never let me go out with them without talking to their parents first. At the time i thought she was just being dramatic, but now that i'm 19, i understand why she did it.
Wrddd im 16 and im happy she never let me go
Murders with a sexual element are the absolute worst to me. You've just experienced one of the worst crimes imaginable, and now you don't even get the chance to heal from it.
Instead you murdered (more often than not brutally)
this is one of the saddest cases. breck actually had a future, he could’ve been saved. :(
i am nobody Everyone has a future. Not just Breck, everyone that things like this happened to. Everyone can be saved.
Rae V.M yeah but this video is about him means we’re talking about him lmao
i am nobody ik, just the phrasing seems like you’re saying that this is one of the saddest cases because breck had a future, as if the other cases aren’t sad and that they didn’t have futures.
I don’t think he could have been saved. His family and friends warned him time and time again but he wouldn’t listen.
Amber Morgan teens don’t always like listening to their parents; I know I didn’t though I wasn’t in this kind of situation. Breck was warned that Lewis wasn’t a good influence, but he probably had blinders on and they didn’t come off until it was too late. In no way would I ever blame Breck because he didn’t know this was a man who would end up harming or murdering him. A life taken too soon and robbed of a bright future and his loving family
"I believe I did this, and I believe I did that, and then, I believe, I cut his throat"
This isn't like some greater unknown force here, dude, this is you killing someone. You murdered a child, you didn't accidentally crush the tooth fairy.
💀
Hell will give him a just punishment when that time comes. If only he could’ve been executed for what he did to Breck
This case hit me so freaking hard in the feels. It just hit home. When I was 17, my brother was 11 or 12. We played that old game Disney’s Toontown Online (do you guys remember that?! Throwback!) Anyway one day we joined a group of other people who very often went out and did task together, made funny music videos for RUclips, and just explored in the game. They called themselves The Leaves and everyone had nature based names, cute right? Well we had actually joined them because an online friend of ours, a girl my age, that we had met on a Minecraft server was like “it’s kind of fun and they’re all super nice” so we tagged along. Everyone had a green character, either a cat or dog, and it was just cool to have people to actually play the game with. None of us ever talked outside of the game, no Skype, no discord, no Facebook, just the game. One day we met the “leader” of the group. He called himself Tree (we never told each other our real names, why would we?) well he said he was 19 years old, not weird, a lot of teenagers played the game, even grown adults, it was fun and nostalgic and super stress relieving. He was nice, and always told the younger kids in the group to be polite as he didn’t want other players associating the group with online bullies. He seemed nice, though I only personally spoke to him a few times. As time went on he started sharing personal news just stuff like his family moving into a bigger house and he wouldn’t have WiFi to play the game for a few days, or that school had gotten busy. He later told everyone he was in Law School. I was like....Um okay.....I doubt it. Maybe he means he’s studying law and prepping for law school, whatever. Then he dropped a bomb. “My family is rich, we live in a big mansion. I’m dropping out of law school to start my own company” The kids, including my brother thought he was so cool. But me and Petal (our Minecraft friend who asked us to join this group with her) didn’t believe it. We called him out on it when we were the only 3 online. He got mad and defended himself. We still didn’t believe him. More lies followed like, his company had just hired a few employees and a game was being developed. He has just bought a corvette, he was moving out of his parents house into his own mansion, blah blah blah. Petal and I kept calling him out on it, telling these kids not to believe him because he was most likely lying. They got mad at us and told Tree who kicked us out! My brother would say things like “he doesn’t want you around, he hates you, why would he lie?, mind your own business. Later on I created a fake account and asked to join them, only petal knew, as she did the same. We were worried this guy was an online predator, in fact we knew he was. They didn’t suspect a thing and let us in. We acted as if we believed Tree and just played along. Soon enough Tree just disappeared for about 2 months. The group continued as usual, basically forgetting about Tree and invited Petal and I back because we were the oldest now and they wanted a moderator. Cool, all was normal. 8 months passed and Tree just showed up again. He told everyone his game had launched and that’s why he was gone so long, but this time nobody believed him. They asked where to buy the game, he gave a link to one person in the group, Petal. What she saw was scary as f*ck. She was so scared she wouldn’t even tell me what it was, she just said, I know him irl, he’s 19 but he’s not who he says he is and I’m gonna go call the cops. I freaked out because my brother had befriended this fool! They were close! I never told our parents, I wanted to handle it on my own. The next day Petal told everyone that he was no good. He was a predator. Turns out, he was gone so long as he had been caught with a minor, a minor! He had been in jail, mom bailed him out. She later told me that he had sent her the link to his secondary FB account with inappropriate pics of him with young girls and boys. The other kids got so scared. My brother apologized to me and the kid was soon kicked off the game. Be careful online guys. You never know who’s out there. My brother now only games with his real life friends. Petal stopped online gaming a year later when she started college. I don’t online game often, only with my brother and friends. Not sure what happened to Tree but I hope he never hurt anyone and is rotting in Prison or Hell. Even now, as a 28 year old woman, I am so careful online. You should too.
My son is 14 and this reminded me of him so much.... the technology skills, gaming, the sweet character.... heart breaking and I can't even imagine!
*enters the video even tho has already watched it just to like it
Literally just did this gotta support our girl
Lol same 😂
Lol same
OMG same... Lol
Same 😅
THIS YEAR (2019) he has been trying to contact Brecks sisters on snapchat. There’s tons of news on it as Snapchat wouldn’t work with police!
OmgitsDannii excuse me what? This man boy child thing is trying to contact brecks sisters and Snapchat won’t work with them?
Snapchat should actually help, it’s their responsibility and it could literally cost someone their life
@Ailsa Tully prisoners smuggle phones in or buy them of prisoners who've smuggled them in
So a bit of information from Snapchat is more valuable than another life? Great move Snapchat
Where is the proof?
Aww. When he said “by doing really well” regarding the 3 merits I just lost it. He was so sweet. 💜😭
I always thought my mom was strict and “exaggerated” with these topics, she told me to never talk with strangers or approach them, to never leave or get in a stranger’s car, and literally any kind of advice, and now I realized that some people do fall for it. So sad that things like this need to happen for someone to be behind bars.
He could be alive today if the police had done their job! that makes me so so angry
Ikr there so lazy and stupid like you have people to save
Same. If you hear a report involving a minor (or report period) CHECK ON IT. He had his whole life ahead of him and he was so happy. I don't believe his family or himself deserved that at all
I don't understand how people can be so sick..
@@nz_mose5079 I'm sorry WHAT if you hurt or kill people on purpose you are a SICK FUCK no matter how many people you kill or if you call the cops
@@nz_mose5079 that makes him more sick, not less. Calling the police, pretending to be innocent, as opposed to just running, and then acting the same in your normal life, is horrific.
@@nz_mose5079 there's something in common majority of these killers have and that's exploring the Dark Web in their early teens.... The obsession seems to fester inside until they too act out what they watch. 💀☠️
Breck’s mother visited my school, as one of the teachers there had previously taught Breck, and even though she radiated positivity, her suffering and emotion was clear. Hearing her tell Brecks story in person was heartbreaking and shame on the police for not doing something quicker. May Breck rest in peace.
As a parent it's so scary to know his mother did absolutely everything she could've to prevent this. His father sincerely thought he was just being a good dad and supporting his son. My heart goes out to the family. I truly can't begin to Imagine how horrible and traumatic this whole event must have been
Lewis probably did it purposely on Breck's mother's birthday because he knew that she didn't like him since he had heard those recordings from those meetings and he knew she was trying to stop him
I think Lewis even said that at one point. He wanted to make it extra personal for Breck’s mum and make HER pay
@@LucyLioness100 omg, he's a sick monster. Unfortunately there are others like him out there wearing masks when it comes off they're are pure evil
How can that monster be posting on social media from jail? That's infuriating.
Julie McLean life of luxury in prison now a days 😢🙄
Uk prisons and sentences are not as bad as it should be and i fuckin hate tht
IKRRRR
Matthew The tiger It happens in the US as well. Inmates regularly updating their social media and calling their loved ones from their cell phones... Shit is crazy.
Jade Raé fr ye i heard about tayk on a ipad smh they shouldnt have no freedom like that
I got groomed online too when I was very young. I feel like I'm lucky that I never met anyone irl. I feel sorry for these kids who weren't as lucky as me :(
It’s terrifying thinking that it’s so common. Heartbreaking.
the police work is unacceptable it just makes me rage it would have taken two seconds to save this innocent child’s life
dude imagine how the taxi driver feels😭
@Evie Steele the taxi driver wasn't involved. They were just doing there job. Its truly a sad fate.
imagine how the dad feels knowing he gave the okay
@@kiaratobin8941 the mum would feel guilt too for not stopping communication
@@zoex8432 thing is she tried and thought things had stopped due to brec acted
@@tiny631 i know, i was adding to their comment. She tried her hardest and it still didn’t work but she would have blamed herself probably, although there was absolutely nothing she could do anymore
but can we acknowledge how beautiful breck is 🥺😔❤️💔💔
julia macko ikrrrrr. Like gosh.
He would have had such a beautiful family. It’s heartbreaking that he died in such a horrible way 😔😔💔💔
N O N C E
Ikr he has beautiful... gone too soon 💔
He looks like my crush, who also goes to air cadets with me 🥺
This is why it makes me so nervous that people give their kids phones and tablets. They could be talking to absolutely anybody.
my heart aches for his mom, she fought so hard for her son, she did everything you are supposed to do as mother and she lost her son to a sick individual. I hope the police officers who did nothing got fired and that Lewis rots in hell.
Breck used to go to my school and they talk about the case so much, as the sad story of Breck’s murder shook the whole school, and now they are really strict on cyber bullying and being careful online and this video, gave me so much more information and now I finally know the whole story not just the basics, I am so sorry for the loss of this wonderful, smart, young man who deserved so much better than this x
He went to my school too aha, we probably go to the same school. I wasn’t here when he was though. Yet it is very heartbreaking :(
The mother of breck came to our school and told us the story of what happened it was so sad the mother started crying :(
I went to brecks school it’s called saint bedes in redhill Surrey so his mum worked with our school a lot I actually spoke to him like 3 times and he is very nice
jessie Howarth same :(
Shit
This breaks my heart
I’m so glad you brought up mental health here. A lot of us struggle with it and it’s nice to hear you are doing better.
I can so relate to mental health. I have not been on holiday abroad for 22 years and I can not even stay one night away from home. Love your videos. Glad you are feeling better.
If the police would’ve typed 2 words a life would’ve been saved a family wouldn’t be grieving and a dangerous person would be in jail
Imagine how the Taxi driver felt tho
Rip Breck
It makes me sick to my stomach that his mother called the police and this could have been stopped. I can't imagine what she's gone through. I hope she knows she is the best parent she could ever be and did everything to protect her children. What a strong woman. ❤️
it's so disgusting that poor breck's mother literally tipped the police off so long ago and gave suspect's and future perpetrator's full name and they just sat on the information and didn't bother to look into it! i think they are almost as much to blame as lewis.
and i've got two words for that guy. electric chair.
i was so sorry to hear about you struggling again at the end of the video. i'm happy each time you update, and i hope all the best for you emotionally as well 💕
I know right! In every single crime stories that I watch, it is always the police that is not doing their responsibility... It is so infuriating... At this points, the police is as guilty as that freaking killer! I’m feeling so sorry to Breck’s mother... :(
This was quite the case to listen too. Im pregnant currently and I hope my child never ends up in a situation like this
I actually cried, this is so heartbreaking
Pedophiles are getting more clever with grooming children and it's sick. Unfortunately kids around the ages of 11-15 are at the age that they want to be independent and they want to think they know everything so when you tell them they're being groomed, they get mad and say "no I'm not I know what I'm doing!!" And it's really unfortunate because the hardest victims to save are the ones that don't want to be. It's just so heartbreaking. I know this isn't relevant to this case exactly but recently internet pedophiles have been targeting young and lonely LGBT kids and they've been trying to tell them that they're the same by claiming that pedophile is an oppressed sexuality. And these kids just don't know any better.
I'm so infuriated with the police department. Some 9 to 5 beat cop receptionist couldn't take the four goddamn seconds to type in the name in the database and a promising young boy is dead now because of it. I really hope whoever took that call and ignored it knows. I hope they know. I hope they know that this man was in the system and that they could have stopped this and I hope it eats at them. He was only a child that wanted to make friends. All I can hope is that he didn't suffer. I just hope that if he was assaulted by this demon of a man that it was after his death so he wouldn't have to suffer through an attack like that. May this sweet child Rest In Peace knowing his killer is behind bars.
this is why parents need to teach their kids from a young age to not to be so damn naive
@@cheery-hex the fact that you are blaming a child is vile
Thankfully the majority of people around me are way more careful and know the signs of grooming so that they don’t get dragged into things like that
Ross Vegas I think I’m getting groomed..
@@emmacm7910 please contact someone.anyone.
Am the only one that gets anxiety when looking at Lewis’ mugshot?
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That profile picture matches so good though. Also she ain’t even that good looking, and that’s coming from me.
@@aisha5156 she?
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My bad, meant he.
@@aisha5156 you're right he honestly looks terrifying
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Fr.😂👌🏾💀
the sex could never be consensual because Breck was a 14 year old CHILD and Lewis was an 18 year old ADULT
Rape is not sex.
So im here 31:55 i to the video. And when i hear the voice of lewis i realize that i had heard this story before from i believe one of shane dawsons videos. And my mouth DROPPED. You gave in so much detail into this video that i literally thought that this was a completely different story and i felt this hit me more in the heart then when i heard shane briefly talk about it. Don’t get me wrong i love shane but that just shows how incredible your content and story telling skills are! Keep up the awesome work!!!
Joslin Lopez I knew I heard this story somewhere, and it was Shane Dawson. This story is explained so well, she’s so dedicated. Poor thing that happened to this young boy though.
She deff explained it well, but Shane probably didn’t do an entire dedicated video about this like she did.
where did shane talk about it?
Lauren C oh yeah definitely, since his was part of a short video with multiple videos
amber on his video “Scariest Catfishes Ever 2”
Man this really fucked me off! The mother rang the police with suspicion her young son was being groomed!! Why the frick did they not step in immediately! I’m really not ok with this video usually I can watch them but this one messed with me. I have a 12 year old brother who plays online a lot
That's British police for you.
same i couldnt finish it, it upset me so much
Honestly, shoddy law work is a main reason for these things. A lot of laws just sort of; make the police incapable of doing shit until things get really bad
I watched this whole thing. It never got better. I agree with ya
I pray your brother lives a safe life. 🙏
I can't even imagine how terrified Breck must've felt, he was an Innocent child with SO much potential. God forbid Lewis ever gets out but if he does who wanna come to England 🙌🏻
I'm already in England, but I'll happily go on the hunt for this thing!
Eleanor I love watching what you post. It's a little addictive. I'm in my 40's and I live in Australia. I really am completely intrigued by the psychology of people. Your posts really help us to understand the stories of these victims. They certainly have been me wondering how the psyche of the people doing the crimes works.
Thank you Eleanor for sharing the stories of these people and so proud of you for self caring x
It’s actually heartbreaks the fact that his mum tried everything she could to help him but it didn’t work
Although she didn't cut off the internet or remove his phone etc...
Nets K she did actually , but Lewis the predator was a step ahead and sent him a phone in the mail that Brett mom never knew he even had. So after while they gave back his stuff because his behavior had improved & grades, but it was because Brett was still secretly in contact with Lewis. It’s just really so sad how this mastermind manipulator took advantage of this kid. The mom did everything right by reporting his name to police and they didn’t do their job or even search the name smh
Hellixz ah I see, I must have missed that bit. I know she tried but it think I’d have removed his console myself. Totally not blaming her you understand, she didn’t know what was eventually going to happen. I think if my kid had a phone they where using slyly I’d have figured out quite quickly too, maybe mine are just easier to read, I don’t know. Police sure could have stopped it!
@@netsk1679 I believe because Breck had gone back to the way he was before Lewis, she truly believed he was out of contact. She did remove his electronics and contacted police. A lot more than a lot of parents would do. But her and Breck were failed every step of the way by both Lewis and the police. :( And in teenage years children will obviously change and some will rebel even without an influence like Lewis. My mom noticed changes in me when I was going through a grooming situation but our family had already been going through a lot beforehand, so I was already acting off. And some kids are better at hiding stuff than others, y'know?
Wow, that murderer was sending threatening messages to Breck's sister on Snapchat as recent as Feb. 2019.
Utterly disgusting
Holy shit, can we just give him the death penalty already?
@ we don’t, we also lack proper sentencing :-/
Tbh, Daynes deserves to live with the guilt every minute of every day.
How?? How does he have access to social media?!
I had a conversation about parenting with my dad back when i was a teenager, i was upset he didnt like my current toxic bf and wanted me to break up with him. Back then my dad said to me that he is my parent first before he is my friend, he doesnt 'need' me to like him, he needs me to listen and respect him as a parent. Long short story, i listened to him, cut off my toxic ex and my grades went up again. Had my dad been too lenient back then, i wouldnt really listen to him nor understand how serioud the condition is.
Well done to your Dad and well done to you for listening.
This is the thing that baffles me. When I was growing up, everyone knew not to use your real name online, never give your address, never share your age. It was seen as weird to tell people who you are, or where you live. But slowly, somehow, this changed. Now you need to be connected to accounts using your real name. Everyone just posts pictures of where they are, who they're with. It's mental.
Facebook started it. Changed the online landscape for the worse. Before that, it was standard to use screen names and protect your identity. Then Zuckerberg convinced the normies to get online and share full names, locations, photos, emloyers, schools, all their data so he could sell it to app developers and advertisers. And here we are. People think it's normal to put your whole stupid life online. The internet pre-2009 was the best internet. Fun, not regulated and people had more common sense. Kids shouldn't be on social media, full stop. Ever. Nobody under 18 should have the right to an account. They're too dumb and inexerienced to ever understand how others see them as easy meat.
@@littleblackpistol Ugh I remember Facebook. I was in my senior year of high school and I saw an older friend log in to his university's Facebook portal. It was limited to those with college email addresses then. And then things went down hill from there. When you really do trace it, it's all back to Facebook. People ask me why I stopped using my account after university. Well, I don't need it anymore as I was just using it because everyone in my classes were communicating on it. I'm sure it'd be as easy for others to not use it as well, if everyone just got off it.
side note: your hair always looks so perfect and so healthy
i know right like im jealous
On his poor mothers birthday as well, sonheartbreaking he seemed like such a sweet boy
The drop in tone that you do when it comes to the murder or hurt part of these stories happen is truly amazing, Eleanor. It’s a simple tone change but so thoughtful.
Was Lewis a sociopath? He sounded like it on the phone to the emergency services. Pretending to heavy breath, he was calm and collected.
Siobhan O'Connor Psychopath, more like. It’s clear he felt/feels no remorse, and that he did it all for the thrill.
He probably is
More like a phycopath
Siobhan O'Connor More likely a psychopath, as he was very scheming and preplanned his murder. Sociopaths often do something bad without thinking and psychopaths plan greatly on it.
@@crissy4445 I'm sorry but autism would not explain an 18 year old feeling no remorse over MURDERING a child, also most autistic people find it very hard to lie
brecks mum came into my primary school and told us all about this but obviously couldnt put it into this much detail. this case infuriates me so much cause i live so close to them 🥺
She’s really become a terrific advocate for protecting other youths from suffering the same tragedy. Believe she’s even trying to work with legislation to try and get a law passed in her son’s name
same, she also came into my school, it was so sad.!!
It’s nice to hear some good is coming from this horribleness and she is educating kids and government officials.
i lived close to where he was from as my mum used his case to scare me straight about staying safe online
i went to the same school as lewis, we went to orminston academy! he was older than me but everyone thought and said he was a weirdo because he always carried a briefcase with him! he always gave off creepy vibes!
Thank you for making this video, I’ve been “friends” with a guy online for about a year now and i’ve always had a bad feeling about him and have been super careful around him... While watching this I was able to make some comparisons between him and this man and I’m officially deciding to cut all ties with him. Thank you.
i know this is old but i’m hoping you cut off contact ❤️
i grew up on social media and it’s honestly so easy now to make friends and not know their real age..it’s scary
Good on you. Hope life is treating you well.
Thanks for making the right decision.
I think its really commendable that his mum now goes round schools and gives talks about this and internet safety with parents, teachers and students, she came to my school a little while back and it was very emotional to hear this story come from her directly. So glad you mad a video on it.
I don't think it will help correct anything she thinks she didn't do at the time. if anything, this sort of thing makes people worse. Fromt he junkie that feels the urge to tell people not to take drugs to the criminal that goes around telling children not to act as they have.
It's a bad idea to treat this as some sort of excusal or therapy.
The amount of times I hear 'but unfortunately police didn't [blank] so nothing ever came of it' in these stories is just heartbreaking. It's all well and good that they solved the crime eventually, but it should never have happened in the first place, and you just can't help but wonder in disgust at how many of these cases could've never even been cases if they'd done their damn job right. This case is heartbreaking. I'm so glad the family is using this awful tragedy to spread awareness to others. A friend of mine was murdered a few years ago, her name was Bianca Faith Girven, it was such an... Indescribably awful thing to happen. Her family started a charity and awareness campaign for domestic abuse survivors, they spend a lot of time on it now, it was one of the only things giving the family peace, closure, purpose. I can see that same drive in Breck's mum, I wish her the best of luck with her work.
Mark o and the police should have DONE THEIR JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE
Unfortunately, the police I the uk dont have much money as the government keep slashing their budget in order to line their own pockets. Police in my hometown dont have enough money to even pay for petrol to leave the station sometimes...
Exactly
Bryn Jackson ik what being groomed is and it’s not so easy you just think u have it under control but then you become friends with that person and it just seems so real right now I’m probably being groomed and u just can’t exactly now it u feel like oh yeah he is a friend he must be maybe ugly that is why he doesn’t show his face and u two become so close he convinces you to go to where he lives and u just wanna see that person’s face so u try it all like I am gonna do this summer wish me luck with that guy..
Mark O and then what? Break would be so ashamed and cry, maybe it’s better than dying but if they’re parents got to now what he was planning they would have struggled so hardly with everything especially his parents
I've been watching you for a few years now. I landed on this case a few times then decided to look for more videos on it.
I watched until the end & even though it's 4 years later. Listening to how happy you are at the end & loving being a youtuber. The most purest moment I've seen from a creator I've ever seen. My heart. 💙💙
this literally happened like a 20 minute drive away from me. this is terrifying
Ikr it’s so sad I’m from the same town as him 😞
The pain in the mother’s voice is heartbreaking 💔
I want to hug her so much. It’s absolutely devastating that her efforts to save Breck were for naught by the end. However she’s been such an advocate for protecting other youths from a similar fate
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