The Black Cat tarp is from MCcat tarps , I have the 4 season tarp they make. When stringing it I like to have one side down and the other out on a 45 degree angle for ventilation. It also stops any condensation plus gives good visibility when sleeping. I use the snake skins to pack the tarp in since it goes up 1st and down last , especially in the rain. In the hammock sleeping I don't use a pillow but have a self inflating mattress ( 1/2 inflated) under me for insulation and a quilt over me.
I'm currently amping up for my first thru-hike starting at Springer in GA ( home state ) and headed north with flip flop back south from WV. You have been the best source yet for me personally because of the similar preferences. Totally flipped my perception on its ass how I thought my hammock system was going to work. Thank you for saving me from many cold nights.
Hard to believe you made all of this yourself! Glad it all worked good and held up throughout the entire AT thru-hike. Looks like its ready to hit the trail again.
Great job, you crafty man you! .. I have a lot of respect for someone who made all their hammock gear like you did.. I am currently watching your CDT series.. Bravo sir!
It would then be compressed underneath you, thereby ruining any insulating properties. (In order to insulate you the quilt needs to be able to trap air. If it is smushed underneath you, it can't trap as much air as it can when it is freely lofted underneath the hammock.)
The shackle is 7/64th Amsteel just like the whoopie slings. It probably appears bigger because it is completely fed through itself, whereas only certain parts of the slings are fed through themselves.
Hammocks are easy to put up and a lot cooler in this Florida heat and humidity. The snake skins are the only way to go. I find a camp site and the 1st thing up is the tarp. The tarp is set up on a continues ridge line and stays in the skins. Then the hammock goes up and if the weather is nice I leave the tarp in the skins. If weather moves in or is expected then the tarp is staked out. Later if it has rained all the dry stuff is taken down and packed up then the tarp is taken down and placed in the mesh pocket on the back of the pack.
The silnylon I used was around 62" wide. It came from a website called backwoodsdaydreamer. They supply all sorts of excellent DIY materials. I used their silnylon 2nds for my tarp and it performed incredibly.
Great to see this whole setup. as I am trying to get into doing more trips like this near my area ( Northwest ) lots of rain to work around. Thanks so much for the information on all the setup. I cant wait to get my one setup just like this.
I just bought an Eno hammock and was looking at accessories. I'm glad i found your video. I would love to get some dimensions from you for the Tarp and the Bug net. Cool video.
Very nice job of explaining the hammock system. I wish I new how to sew I want a 900 quilt for my tent . Like your system I think heaver than my tent and small x light pad and a thermarest tech blanket. But really nice.
They can, but in my experience it is hard to stay on top of them. Also, if any part of your body falls off it gets cold fairly quick. Trying to sleep with a pad in my hammock is ultimately what led me to making an underquilt. Many people do sleep with pads in hammocks though, so you may find it works fine for you.
Not sure at this point in time. It would be incredible if I did, but only time will tell. I would love to be out on the trail meeting the hikers and such, maybe doing a little trail magic now and then.
Not at all, it's as simple as raising your hands up above your head. I never cinch the actual cord-lock, as the tulle fabric tends to keep itself cinched due to friction. That means to open the bug net all I have to do is pull the end open and slide it down past my hips.
Well, for the first few trails, I'd just work temporary jobs until I had saved up enough to get out and hike (around $5,000). It worked out quite well heheh, but now I am working to actually put some money into savings.
Great vid. Where did you get your under quilt? I use a thermarest in mine works great w my hennesy because of the guidelines. For anyone looking to use a pad having a guideline on eachside really helps out a lot to keep your pad from moving around. I usually use a pad and toss a car sun visor on top to reflect the heat and then put my top quilt on.
Yes I followed the dimensions listed. That said, this tarp is huge and could absolutely be sized down a little. The width could be dropped quite a bit, maybe 3 ft. The length is pretty adequate, but could maybe be dropped a foot at most.
I've estimated it to about $415 for the: top quilt, under quilt, hammock, tarp, and bug net. Though that left me with some left-over material and down. Certainly not cheap, but cheaper than buying from stores.
Some people not familiar with hammocks might wonder why you don't just use a sleeping bag, once an insulating material loses its loft the insulating value drops significantly. Great job, very low impact. Your tarp can be set up first in wet or windy conditions allowing protection of your additional gear and yourself.
Hello, I was going to make a tarp and stumbled upon your channel. All your vids are great. I was wondering if you made this tarp to the same dimensions as the instructions? I was wondering if you could go a little smaller and still be effective? Thanks for any info.
+umweltingenieur I've used the system down to about 10 degrees Fahrenheit. I think that is pushing it to the lower limit though, as I was wearing all of my layers. I think 20 degrees Fahrenheit is a more realistic/accurate rating. On the other end of things, I have used this mid-summer with success as well. The under quilt can be adjusted to be cooler ( or removed completely) and the top quilt can be moved to the side to vent heat. Not ideal for summertime use but manageable.
This can and has been done effectively, but there are some issues you'll have to address. First is getting a tight enough fit without getting it too tight. If it is too baggy, cold air will get in and fill the gaps. Other the other hand, if it is too tight it can be restricting and uncomfortable. Second issue is maintaining a comfortable temperature. Since you can't really "unzip" or remove part of the bag from your body to vent heat, you may get way too hot in the bag.
Have you considered ditching the quilt compression sack and instead packing the quilts directly into your backpack? Seems like it would utilize the free space in the pack a little better.
I bought nanoseeum netting form thru-hiker and cut it into a long rectangle. Then I joined the long sides of the rectangle to form a long cylinder of netting.
My pack is typically just on the ground under my hammock, unless it is raining. During rains I hang it on my hammock suspension close to the hammock so that it is covered by the tarp still. I had a separate food bag, but in most cases (except when required otherwise) I would hang the food bag at my feet.
I have really enjoyed your videos. Congrats on the journey! I hope to be going in 2014. Im trying to decide between tent vs hammock. Do you recall the cost of your entire sleep system setup?
Been thinking about makin a down under quilt and top quilt, but had an idea. Why not just make a sleeping bag and have a draw cord at the bottom to close it? Surely i'm not the first to think of this. Whats your thoughts?
When you made your top quilt, did you stitch through both layers of the quilt when making the channels, or did you go the route of sewing in no see um baffles?
I sewed in noseeum baffles in a karo step (box-like) pattern. Sewn through baffles are ok down to maybe 45 degrees F but beyond that you really need to use real baffles to maintain warmth.
Thank you for this video Joe! I am planning my thru hike of the AT for next year and I think I might go with your system. I have never hammock camped before but will give it a shot this fall and winter. Did you just keep your pack under your hammock?
Ok that is what I was figuring you probably did. I was looking at your quilts and it looks like you just have a couple of channels that go from end to end for the down is that the case? Also I am planning on buying the quilt kits from ripstopbytheroll.com, not sure if you used them or not but might you know how much down each one would require. Sorry for all the questions and I hope I am not being a bother. Thanks!
Well, learn something new everyday.. You make me wish I was an outdoor person. Don't know how this turned up on my youtube page. I'm a machine quilter; I watch quilting videos. But super interesting; really.
Joe, my question about this set up is: what do you do when the only trees are too wide to wrap your tree straps around all the way? With the Henessey hammock system, this isn't an issue because the rope from the hammock will make up the difference and form a complete loop around the tree. But, here you are reliant on skinny trees. Or are your tree straps just THAT long that it isn't an issue?
The tree straps are long enough that 95% of the time it isn't an issue. When it is, I have a continuous loop of amsteel that I attach to one end of the strap and run through the eye on the other end. If this doesn't work (it normally does), I'll just relocate to a new location.
Great video! One question - would it be worth making quilts with synthetic insulation to save a few bucks (Primaloft or equivalent) or would it make more sense to spend a little more and buy or make a down quilt instead? Again, great video.
+Wright Frost Thanks. I would opt for down. It is just so much lighter, warmer, and more compact. I'd only consider synthetic insulation in the wettest of conditions, and even then, I'd probably still use down.
I have been looking to make a custom rainfly system that I can adjust for multiple hammocks. I have not been able to find ripstop that is as wide as yours (best I can find is 48"). Any clue to where I can get such a wide ripstop so I don't have a bunch of seams?
Just found your videos. Great job. Lots of good stuff there. Nice setup. Love that tarp. Thats the hardest thing to find is a good tarp without spending a fortune. Im just getting into hammock camping and you have given me lots of good advice. I will watch more videos. Ive also subscribed. keep up the good work. BTW do you make tarps to sell? would love to have one.
What are your thoughts on effectiveness of an extra pocket sewn to the bottom of the hammock where a pad could be slipped in? (Instead of an underquilt.)
It can work and has been done, but it just cannot replace the warmth and comfort of an under quilt. You'll need a fairly wide pad to ensure that you don't roll off and get cold. I've never slept in one, so I can't really give any specifics, but I imagine that it is still quite hard to keep the pad under you, given that you would be at a diagonal and the pocket would be in line with the hammock.
I see. Would the warmth of an under quilt be necessary for a NoBo AT Thru-Hike? FYI I took shelter in an ENO hammock with a built in zip up bug net but no rain fly. And I slept in a Marmot Minimalist (Synthetic) Mummy bag rated for 40 degrees on my last trip in Shenandoah Nat. Park over the summer and I had no comfort issues whatsoever. I also had no knowledge of the ins and outs of hammocks. (Ie the importance of having insulation underneath a you. Therefore, I was a bit chilled. I did bring a cheap sleeping pad from Walmart but for some reason it didn't occur to me to use it lol. And since I have zero experience sewing, the hammock would be a challenge but I think the under quilt would be difficult and maybe an unnecessary expense. What do you think? It also occurred to me that having a pad instead if an UQ would be a "win win" if I needed to sleep in the shelters.
Hey Biophthera, I was wondering what kind of hammock you use. I just watched your Thru-Hike because I am planning on doing it myself. I want to use a hammock and quilt system like yours. I am looking at several hammocks, but all of them seem to be heavy. Any suggestions? Thanks! :)
It's all home made. There are some cottage businesses that make great gear though. I can't post links here, so you'll have to do some searching. Some places to start include dream-hammock, arrowhead-equipment, hammock gear, underground quilts, warbonnet, and many others.
I haven't used my hammock lately (there aren't really enough trees out here to justify it). I do plan on making a new UL hammock setup sometime soon though.
Hey Joe, why do you not use a hammock system? Btw I'm looking for someone to make an underquilt for me. Of course, i would pay. Hit me up if your interested (:
The Black Cat tarp is from MCcat tarps , I have the 4 season tarp they make. When stringing it I like to have one side down and the other out on a 45 degree angle for ventilation. It also stops any condensation plus gives good visibility when sleeping.
I use the snake skins to pack the tarp in since it goes up 1st and down last , especially in the rain.
In the hammock sleeping I don't use a pillow but have a self inflating mattress ( 1/2 inflated) under me for insulation and a quilt over me.
This is the very best hammock video I've seen on RUclips and I've seen a lot. Great job Joe!
Thanks!
I'm currently amping up for my first thru-hike starting at Springer in GA ( home state ) and headed north with flip flop back south from WV. You have been the best source yet for me personally because of the similar preferences. Totally flipped my perception on its ass how I thought my hammock system was going to work. Thank you for saving me from many cold nights.
Hard to believe you made all of this yourself! Glad it all worked good and held up throughout the entire AT thru-hike. Looks like its ready to hit the trail again.
Incredible system you've built, Joe… and kudos to your presentation. I hope to build something similar to camp in when I am able. peace
Great job, you crafty man you! .. I have a lot of respect for someone who made all their hammock gear like you did.. I am currently watching your CDT series.. Bravo sir!
Thanks!
Ive been learning a lot watching your videos. Great job on them. I like how no detail is too small to explain. Thanks!
It would then be compressed underneath you, thereby ruining any insulating properties. (In order to insulate you the quilt needs to be able to trap air. If it is smushed underneath you, it can't trap as much air as it can when it is freely lofted underneath the hammock.)
The shackle is 7/64th Amsteel just like the whoopie slings. It probably appears bigger because it is completely fed through itself, whereas only certain parts of the slings are fed through themselves.
Hammocks are easy to put up and a lot cooler in this Florida heat and humidity. The snake skins are the only way to go. I find a camp site and the 1st thing up is the tarp. The tarp is set up on a continues ridge line and stays in the skins. Then the hammock goes up and if the weather is nice I leave the tarp in the skins. If weather moves in or is expected then the tarp is staked out. Later if it has rained all the dry stuff is taken down and packed up then the tarp is taken down and placed in the mesh pocket on the back of the pack.
The silnylon I used was around 62" wide. It came from a website called backwoodsdaydreamer. They supply all sorts of excellent DIY materials. I used their silnylon 2nds for my tarp and it performed incredibly.
Well thought out, well presented information. One of the very best I have viewed on RUclips. Nice piece of work.
Great to see this whole setup. as I am trying to get into doing more trips like this near my area ( Northwest ) lots of rain to work around. Thanks so much for the information on all the setup. I cant wait to get my one setup just like this.
Great job on this setup. Very interesting lashing on the tarp.
Very nice. I did start scanning the woods for sasquatch halfway through though.
I just bought an Eno hammock and was looking at accessories. I'm glad i found your video. I would love to get some dimensions from you for the Tarp and the Bug net. Cool video.
Thanks for sharing your system with us. Looks great!
hey dude..very good video on giving the breakdown for the super "home made" sleeping hammock system!! thanks for sharing..very inspiring to watch.
+George rosado Thanks!
your honest and practical approach is great thanks
Very nice job of explaining the hammock system. I wish I new how to sew I want a 900 quilt for my tent . Like your system I think heaver than my tent and small x light pad and a thermarest tech blanket. But really nice.
They can, but in my experience it is hard to stay on top of them. Also, if any part of your body falls off it gets cold fairly quick. Trying to sleep with a pad in my hammock is ultimately what led me to making an underquilt. Many people do sleep with pads in hammocks though, so you may find it works fine for you.
Glad to hear it. Do you mind if I ask what you changed?
I like your setup, you did a very good job on it.
impressive job on all that home made equipment
Not sure at this point in time. It would be incredible if I did, but only time will tell. I would love to be out on the trail meeting the hikers and such, maybe doing a little trail magic now and then.
Not at all, it's as simple as raising your hands up above your head. I never cinch the actual cord-lock, as the tulle fabric tends to keep itself cinched due to friction. That means to open the bug net all I have to do is pull the end open and slide it down past my hips.
wow your gear looks awesome. looking for an underquilt top quilt and am thinking of doing the costco quilt and making my own
Thanks, and do it!
Joe Brewer what do you do for work to be able to get away soo much?
Well, for the first few trails, I'd just work temporary jobs until I had saved up enough to get out and hike (around $5,000). It worked out quite well heheh, but now I am working to actually put some money into savings.
Thank you for this high quality review of your sleep system.
Awesome video. I really enjoyed it, and it was packed with great/useful information. Watching it makes me want to give your setup a try!
Great vid. Where did you get your under quilt? I use a thermarest in mine works great w my hennesy because of the guidelines. For anyone looking to use a pad having a guideline on eachside really helps out a lot to keep your pad from moving around. I usually use a pad and toss a car sun visor on top to reflect the heat and then put my top quilt on.
Yes I followed the dimensions listed. That said, this tarp is huge and could absolutely be sized down a little. The width could be dropped quite a bit, maybe 3 ft. The length is pretty adequate, but could maybe be dropped a foot at most.
I've estimated it to about $415 for the: top quilt, under quilt, hammock, tarp, and bug net. Though that left me with some left-over material and down. Certainly not cheap, but cheaper than buying from stores.
Some people not familiar with hammocks might wonder why you don't just use a sleeping bag, once an insulating material loses its loft the insulating value drops significantly. Great job, very low impact. Your tarp can be set up first in wet or windy conditions allowing protection of your additional gear and yourself.
I wanted to see you get into the video. Great video though! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and know-how.
Hello, I was going to make a tarp and stumbled upon your channel. All your vids are great. I was wondering if you made this tarp to the same dimensions as the instructions? I was wondering if you could go a little smaller and still be effective? Thanks for any info.
Was size Amsteel is the shackle? it looks bigger than the whoopie slings. Thanks for the videos. Very informative.
4.46 lbs for the full setup is awesome. I like the rope "carabiner", great way to avoid carrying heavy metal ones.
+umweltingenieur
I've used the system down to about 10 degrees Fahrenheit. I think that is pushing it to the lower limit though, as I was wearing all of my layers. I think 20 degrees Fahrenheit is a more realistic/accurate rating. On the other end of things, I have used this mid-summer with success as well. The under quilt can be adjusted to be cooler ( or removed completely) and the top quilt can be moved to the side to vent heat. Not ideal for summertime use but manageable.
throw a pad of reflection between your hammock and quilt and you should be able to cruise past 20*
+Datsyzerberg reflectix
It is home made. I've got a couple other videos posted showing it in more detail if you are interested.
I'm wanting to make a bug net for my hammock. Could you do a video on how you made the bug net?
Thanks alot buddy you helped me with alot of questions. appreciate it!!
im not a hammock guy at all...yet... but that is a legit setup!
This can and has been done effectively, but there are some issues you'll have to address. First is getting a tight enough fit without getting it too tight. If it is too baggy, cold air will get in and fill the gaps. Other the other hand, if it is too tight it can be restricting and uncomfortable. Second issue is maintaining a comfortable temperature. Since you can't really "unzip" or remove part of the bag from your body to vent heat, you may get way too hot in the bag.
This is a FINE system...congrats.
I am a side sleeper and get my best sleep in my hammock. You just need a hammock that lays flat like this one. Many commercial options are available.
Hey Great video! Could you tell me the brand names of the net and rain fly, and where you bought them?? I couldn't find it on amazon.
Have you considered ditching the quilt compression sack and instead packing the quilts directly into your backpack? Seems like it would utilize the free space in the pack a little better.
I do just that currently. This video is a bit old.
Nice system. Thanks for sharing.
Everything looks great man!
Awesome setup, I'm still rather new to hammock camping. I bought the Exped combi scout
I love the no see um snake skins, where did you buy the netting since I'm assuming they were precut. Thanks!
I bought nanoseeum netting form thru-hiker and cut it into a long rectangle. Then I joined the long sides of the rectangle to form a long cylinder of netting.
Brilliant stuff! Great video!
My pack is typically just on the ground under my hammock, unless it is raining. During rains I hang it on my hammock suspension close to the hammock so that it is covered by the tarp still. I had a separate food bag, but in most cases (except when required otherwise) I would hang the food bag at my feet.
Links to where you found DIY instructions for this gear would be nice.
I have really enjoyed your videos. Congrats on the journey! I hope to be going in 2014. Im trying to decide between tent vs hammock. Do you recall the cost of your entire sleep system setup?
Been thinking about makin a down under quilt and top quilt, but had an idea. Why not just make a sleeping bag and have a draw cord at the bottom to close it? Surely i'm not the first to think of this. Whats your thoughts?
Did you have any issues tarping it up in New England near Baxter where the trees get a little less available?
When you made your top quilt, did you stitch through both layers of the quilt when making the channels, or did you go the route of sewing in no see um baffles?
I sewed in noseeum baffles in a karo step (box-like) pattern. Sewn through baffles are ok down to maybe 45 degrees F but beyond that you really need to use real baffles to maintain warmth.
You have a brilliant set up. Any advice for me as a not at all accomplished D.I.Y.'er to buy a rig like this..
Do you think you can make a video on tent camping vs. hammock camping on the AT? I'm going next year and I'm trying to decide between the two.
***** will do, thanks for the advice!
Could you upload a pdf of the tarp design and stitching please
Great explanation. Learned a lot.
7/64. I bought mine from the arrowhead-equipment website. Friendly people and fair prices.
Great video. I may have missed it but where did you get the sleve you store the tarp in?
I made them. They are strips of nanoseeum netting sewn into tubes. I'd highly recommend making some, they work very well and are so convenient.
Great DIY gear. Super impressive......
Grand Trunk makes one that does just that. Check it out!
I just wish i could find something like this in a lighter material like 800-900 down
Thank you for this video Joe! I am planning my thru hike of the AT for next year and I think I might go with your system. I have never hammock camped before but will give it a shot this fall and winter. Did you just keep your pack under your hammock?
I'd normally just hang my pack on the end of my hammock to keep it high and dry. Works great as a clothing line too heheh.
Ok that is what I was figuring you probably did. I was looking at your quilts and it looks like you just have a couple of channels that go from end to end for the down is that the case? Also I am planning on buying the quilt kits from ripstopbytheroll.com, not sure if you used them or not but might you know how much down each one would require. Sorry for all the questions and I hope I am not being a bother. Thanks!
Will a thermarest inflatable work to keep out the chill from the bottom?
Well, learn something new everyday.. You make me wish I was an outdoor person. Don't know how this turned up on my youtube page. I'm a machine quilter; I watch quilting videos. But super interesting; really.
Margo Jannuzi you evee get outside Margo?
It popped up because he does quite a few sewing videos, including quilt videos :D
Joe, my question about this set up is: what do you do when the only trees are too wide to wrap your tree straps around all the way? With the Henessey hammock system, this isn't an issue because the rope from the hammock will make up the difference and form a complete loop around the tree. But, here you are reliant on skinny trees. Or are your tree straps just THAT long that it isn't an issue?
The tree straps are long enough that 95% of the time it isn't an issue. When it is, I have a continuous loop of amsteel that I attach to one end of the strap and run through the eye on the other end. If this doesn't work (it normally does), I'll just relocate to a new location.
Great video! One question - would it be worth making quilts with synthetic insulation to save a few bucks (Primaloft or equivalent) or would it make more sense to spend a little more and buy or make a down quilt instead? Again, great video.
+Wright Frost Thanks. I would opt for down. It is just so much lighter, warmer, and more compact. I'd only consider synthetic insulation in the wettest of conditions, and even then, I'd probably still use down.
I have been looking to make a custom rainfly system that I can adjust for multiple hammocks. I have not been able to find ripstop that is as wide as yours (best I can find is 48"). Any clue to where I can get such a wide ripstop so I don't have a bunch of seams?
Just found your videos. Great job. Lots of good stuff there. Nice setup. Love that tarp. Thats the hardest thing to find is a good tarp without spending a fortune. Im just getting into hammock camping and you have given me lots of good advice. I will watch more videos. Ive also subscribed. keep up the good work. BTW do you make tarps to sell? would love to have one.
I may be selling tarps in the future, but as of now no.
hi, nice video, could you write the weights of every item? Thank you.
Damn man. You've got skills. Great set up and vid. Subbing.
I'd like to, but it takes me far to long to be affordable. Check out dreamhammock's bug sock.
Nice setup mate very clever. ;)
One bit I missed, is the hammock just a rectangle that you have whipped into a hammock shape, or is the unwhipped hammock a non-rectangular shape?
+Stephen Wright It's just a rectangle whipped in a specific "M" pattern.
Thanks
What are your thoughts on effectiveness of an extra pocket sewn to the bottom of the hammock where a pad could be slipped in? (Instead of an underquilt.)
It can work and has been done, but it just cannot replace the warmth and comfort of an under quilt. You'll need a fairly wide pad to ensure that you don't roll off and get cold. I've never slept in one, so I can't really give any specifics, but I imagine that it is still quite hard to keep the pad under you, given that you would be at a diagonal and the pocket would be in line with the hammock.
I see. Would the warmth of an under quilt be necessary for a NoBo AT Thru-Hike?
FYI I took shelter in an ENO hammock with a built in zip up bug net but no rain fly. And I slept in a Marmot Minimalist (Synthetic) Mummy bag rated for 40 degrees on my last trip in Shenandoah Nat. Park over the summer and I had no comfort issues whatsoever. I also had no knowledge of the ins and outs of hammocks. (Ie the importance of having insulation underneath a you. Therefore, I was a bit chilled. I did bring a cheap sleeping pad from Walmart but for some reason it didn't occur to me to use it lol. And since I have zero experience sewing, the hammock would be a challenge but I think the under quilt would be difficult and maybe an unnecessary expense. What do you think?
It also occurred to me that having a pad instead if an UQ would be a "win win" if I needed to sleep in the shelters.
A gear company needs to hire you in their R&D department!
Hey Biophthera,
I was wondering what kind of hammock you use. I just watched your Thru-Hike because I am planning on doing it myself. I want to use a hammock and quilt system like yours. I am looking at several hammocks, but all of them seem to be heavy. Any suggestions? Thanks! :)
It's all home made. There are some cottage businesses that make great gear though. I can't post links here, so you'll have to do some searching. Some places to start include dream-hammock, arrowhead-equipment, hammock gear, underground quilts, warbonnet, and many others.
Thanks!
Talk about an awesome job! I've thought about making gear and selling it, but I take way too long and make too many mistakes. Ah well...
verry verry nice bro. Tight set up. +1 for sure.
What is the program when camping in an area void of trees?
very nice set up ,, learned a lot ..
..bill
great instruction. Sparked an idea. the mesh tube silt socks you can buy by the yard at Lowes or HD might work well as skins for. tarps and hammocks.
Love it! Very similar to my own.
Cheers
what size diameter is the amsteel? any suggestions about where to buy?
I sleep much better with a small pillow too. Having a good night sleep is well worth the extra weight imo.
To the ground with my tarp pitched on trekking poles!
It seems strange that the under quilt is outside the hammock? why isnt it inside?
Good stuff!
Where did you find out how to make the tarp?
Search google for "black cat tarp". There are some patterns and dimensions floating around out there somewhere.
is the hammock comfortable for thruhiking? did it hurt your back or anything? I know this is a 4 year old video.. but I would rather have a hammock!
My nights in the hammock are some of the most comfortable I've had on a trail. I never had any back pain or issues, quite the opposite actually.
I think I estimated it to around $400 (US)
how much in total did it cost you to make this setup?
hou still using a hammock, have you upgraded your hanging system.
I haven't used my hammock lately (there aren't really enough trees out here to justify it). I do plan on making a new UL hammock setup sometime soon though.
about how much longer is your tarp than your hammock?
I'd say about 3 feet total. 1.5 feet longer on each end (12 ft. tarp, 9 ft. hammock).
thanks
Hey Joe, why do you not use a hammock system? Btw I'm looking for someone to make an underquilt for me. Of course, i would pay. Hit me up if your interested (:
tarp seems a bit short
They're homemade.