Jody, thank you for bringing this story to the public. You are very gracious. I don't think I could have held my tongue. Chris Milton and Olivia Stewman are both ignorant and arrogant. They both may have done some hard work, maybe even heroic things in this catastrophe but those early hours were crucial to save lives. This was an unprecedented event and normal regulations and procedures should have been worked around immediately. Instead of welcoming aircraft to rescue people in hard to get to places they risked the victims and their own lives trying to get to them. Ridiculous. They'd rather put a boat in or throw a rope over a raging river to try and rescue someone than let a chopper fly in, pick up and bring people to safety much quicker and safer. Unbelievable. Jordan you and your son are extraordinary people and I thank you for all of your efforts. I am so glad y'all were able to save people and help so many. To the Coffeys, I am so glad y'all survived and found each other again. God bless y'all. I think a whole lot of other people could have been saved if things were handled differently. Our gubbermint should have had 1000s of our troops across the entire destruction from Helene the morning of. I continue to pray for everyone affected by the evil hurricane Helene. 🙏
Fema was in 6 states at the time working HAMSTRUNG by the rethuglican congress who just 5 weeks prior refused to fund disaster relief agencies including FEMA. Wanna complain start there
Amen !! ! .... You and Your son did the "RIGHT THING" 🙏🫶👍👏 !! Many Thanks to y'all and to all of the other SARs that showed-up and "Saved LIVES" ! Thank you Both for being "Great Fellow AMERICANS" !! God Bless y'all !! 😇🚁 🌊 🌫 🇺🇸 🙏🙏🫶
Without a “TFR” (Temporary Flight Restriction) established by the FAA the local police or fire department has ABSOLUTELY no authority to prohibit aviation activities! These local yokels with a tin badge thought they had a LOT more authority than they did! They needed to stay in their lane.
There is a video of a man confronting several police officers and there chief asking about the 42,000 dollars worth of generators that was in the building at 7am and gone at 9am. The officers and the chief were there with the generators and other supplies. Man leaves to get a trailer or a list to go get a trailer and a list of addresses or where these generators were going to Police Department was there a gardener he comes back they're all gone I saw a small story about 2 weeks later for the police chief and several officers have been put on leave generators were found at the brother-in-law's house of the fire of the police chief the police chief says that after the gentleman left less than 10 minutes FEMA came in and take this generators to this address they didn't belong to FEMA the man let's get the trailer that was his building his property his generators the police department knew that
That city manager n the assistant fire chief should b "FIRED" !!! HE SAID HE WAS TRAINED FIRE THEM ITS UNEXCEPTABLE ! ONLY ALL HANDS AVAILABLE HELP OUT IN A TIME OF NEED !!!
In a MEGA diaster such as this you pull out all the stops to help YOUR community. Not stand on some sanctimonious B S because of your title or ego. As for the town manager I have one question. Did she work for the Biden Administration as a press secretary?
Remember the Las Vegas shooting? Well the guy in charge of all that disaster silently failed up ! He was given a position in Lahaina Maui! I find that little detail interesting!
Right STEPS! Are they that incompetent during a raging flood that people were left to die because of steps? All hands should have been on deck with only one mission - to get people out any way possible!
I think the interviewer missed an important question with the town manager - What authorization would the pilot have needed to continue his rescue? I never heard the answer to that.
Yeah, I am mad about this, even angry. This is something the entire country needs to pay attention to because the next massive disaster could be where you live!
This should be fully investigated and new procedures for massive disaster need to be put into place to keep people who I call "balloon headed self importance" from making such life threatening decissions! The only person in this incident that needed training and certification was the Assistant Chief!
One of the most important words I learned working in law enforcement was "Discretion". The Asst. Fire Chief reacted inappropiatly to the situation and in doing so put peoples lives in danger and should be held accountable. But in all probability he will not. The asst fire chief and the emergency management director should not be the same person. Those are 2 entirely different Jobs. Requiring different skills.
Mike Coffee was put in greater danger when they had to drag him across flood waters! This is totally imexcusable to put a person in that kind of danger when there was a safer way to get him to safety!
Here’s what I think is something interesting to point out, IF anyone from the chief, the lady answering the questions on the Chiefs behalf or any of their families would need to be rescued he would have moved the earth to make sure it was being done regardless of who was flying a helicopter out. Seems to me the Chief is a person that likes to be the one in control regardless of the severity of the situation. It’s all about what he wants done! When he wants it done! How he wants it done! His rules and only his rules. I bet a higher official contacted that chief and informed him to allow people to help, since the situation is considered a severity!! I would be ashamed to be related to someone who did something like that. Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable behavior, especially by a government official employee who’s supposed to be in service of helping people out however it gets done.
Right at that point and now who really cares about what the chief or assistant chief of the fire department or law enforcement cares when the only people who showed they cared about the victims who were stranded and terrified because of the devastation Helene did to The North Carolina people. The Governor and most of the law enforcement and FEMA have shown the world they simply did not care about the victims. It’s only because of RUclips Channels that people are being called out for not caring or doing their jobs to rescue and help the people in North Carolina. I think I would have went back and got that man and then let them arrest me. Proving to the world RUclipsrs were more concerned about the victims than the governor and most of the people trained to do the rescues. I don’t think anybody will ever forget what the governor and all the so called experts did not do to help the victims. To all the people who did rescue people and delivered much needed supplies of all things the victims needed. God Bless You All. We The People Have To Depend On Each Other Because Clearly The Officials did not and still do not care. PEOPLE HELPING PEOPLE ARE NORTH CAROLINA STRONG!!!
I believe that the fire chief that threatened to arrest the guy in the helicopter the fire chief he should lose his job or demote him there was a better way to inform him and in a respectful way to let him know way he can't go round and pick people up that he needs to have special clearance to go round rescuing people. I have no respect for that fire chief that's threatening too arrest people that are out there trying to help people
This incident goes against any training of a person who has served in emergency service! You can be arrested for not giving help to a victim! Doesn't matter if it is a car wreck or a flood! That assistant chief should be arrested for endangering flood victims! No wonder so many died! That assistant chief exhibit terratorial behavior! That flood was way over their head of being able to respond with help!
This is such a heart-wrenching story and I'm glad to see it. This pilot is a fine man. No doubt about that. But I'm puzzled. The Robinson R-44 copter holds four people. Any explanation as to why they all four couldn't fly out at the same time?
He could have had cargo aboard, the seating layout may not have allowed more, and the altitude and weather conditions might not have safely allowed more. It's the pilot's decision to make because only he knows the complete situation. He was doing all he felt he could safely do so let's respect that and him.
Thank You for sharing this story! That Chief Idiot should be fired! He is a full of himself Jerk who doesn't need to be in that position! Those people needed help! A lot more help than that fire chief was willing to give!
Thank you for doing this story. What a disgrace that this hero was treated so terribly! it is unbelievable. I wish these "drunk on power officials" would have been arrested for causing undue suffering . I read another story or two of how they stopped other people from helping people who were in desperate need. Glad I don't live in that immediate area. Thank you to all the "real heros" who have helped during this disaster. God Bless You
First you need to understand that capacity can vary based on weather, elevation, your fuel load,and many other things including the layout of seating. This is an R44 and has a maximum capacity of 5 if the seating is arranged for that etc. For whatever reason the pilot didn't feel it was safe to have more than 2 aboard total and his decision should be respected because only he knew the conditions and capabilities of the aircraft and himself.
This spoke person is attempting to cover the fire departments back inside! I really wish the pilot had returned with the husband but in an area far enough away that the fire Chief couldn't do squat about it. Yes I understand this may have caused the pilot issues but the lives of People must come first always as well as the couples Cat! Now the fool who pulled this bull hockey refuses to talk with the media.. How can a fire department even threaten arrest as their Not Police officers? Something, someone stinks on that mountain side, IMPO. ❤❤❤
Amen, I agree. Charges should be placed on the assistant fire chief as to him really causing more chaos & potentially bodily harm during his choice of rescue plus his threats. Ego was blocking commonsense if there was any there?
I think Jordan is a hero as well and the fireman in lake lure, he should be ashamed of himself. The city manager as well. If anything ever happens where I am stranded I would hope and pray that Jordan would come and help me. God Bless
I saw that when it happened and that was the stupidest thing I've ever seen with that official (I didn't know who he was) threatening this guy if he went back for the lady's husband !!! He was finally rescued, pulled across the raging life-threatening river on a rope !!!
That officer should be fired and not be able to hold office again. This is a dispickable abuse of his authority and a disgrace of the uniform. Typical!!!
Unfortunately they don't go by need, but by a cumbersome and inefficient "Incident Command" system which has roots back in the Republican passed "Patriot Acts" which were made into law after 9/11. In a declared disaster area they have total control and can do whatever they want to, while your civil rights are suspended.
That must be a terrible fire department with a fool leading it 😮
Yes I said that 😊😊😊😊
Great work as always sir. God bless you.
Jody, thank you for bringing this story to the public. You are very gracious. I don't think I could have held my tongue. Chris Milton and Olivia Stewman are both ignorant and arrogant. They both may have done some hard work, maybe even heroic things in this catastrophe but those early hours were crucial to save lives. This was an unprecedented event and normal regulations and procedures should have been worked around immediately. Instead of welcoming aircraft to rescue people in hard to get to places they risked the victims and their own lives trying to get to them. Ridiculous. They'd rather put a boat in or throw a rope over a raging river to try and rescue someone than let a chopper fly in, pick up and bring people to safety much quicker and safer. Unbelievable.
Jordan you and your son are extraordinary people and I thank you for all of your efforts. I am so glad y'all were able to save people and help so many.
To the Coffeys, I am so glad y'all survived and found each other again. God bless y'all. I think a whole lot of other people could have been saved if things were handled differently. Our gubbermint should have had 1000s of our troops across the entire destruction from Helene the morning of. I continue to pray for everyone affected by the evil hurricane Helene. 🙏
Fema was in 6 states at the time working HAMSTRUNG by the rethuglican congress who just 5 weeks prior refused to fund disaster relief agencies including FEMA. Wanna complain start there
Amen !!
! .... You and Your son did the "RIGHT THING" 🙏🫶👍👏 !!
Many Thanks to y'all and to all of the other SARs that showed-up and "Saved LIVES" !
Thank you Both for being "Great Fellow AMERICANS" !! God Bless y'all !! 😇🚁 🌊 🌫 🇺🇸 🙏🙏🫶
And it is 1000% untrue.
@@bobbleadventurecatwhat is untrue???
@@bobbleadventurecat You’re full of Crap!
There’s SO many current stories to tell. I hope Queen City covers those too.
Without a “TFR” (Temporary Flight Restriction) established by the FAA the local police or fire department has ABSOLUTELY no authority to prohibit aviation activities! These local yokels with a tin badge thought they had a LOT more authority than they did! They needed to stay in their lane.
This reporter knows how to conduct an investigative interview; better than a numbner of the national reporters.
How sick? What a power trip that man was on. Thank you too, the pilot!
The chief needs to be fired. Abuse of power?
I'm sure he was just doing what someone told him to do. The problem is that there was no preparation or coordination leading up to this event.
Saw this after it happened. Did you investigate the fire chief that stole all the donations and claimed they had to hand them out?
There is a video of a man confronting several police officers and there chief asking about the 42,000 dollars worth of generators that was in the building at 7am and gone at 9am. The officers and the chief were there with the generators and other supplies. Man leaves to get a trailer or a list to go get a trailer and a list of addresses or where these generators were going to Police Department was there a gardener he comes back they're all gone I saw a small story about 2 weeks later for the police chief and several officers have been put on leave generators were found at the brother-in-law's house of the fire of the police chief the police chief says that after the gentleman left less than 10 minutes FEMA came in and take this generators to this address they didn't belong to FEMA the man let's get the trailer that was his building his property his generators the police department knew that
That city manager n the assistant fire chief should b "FIRED" !!! HE SAID HE WAS TRAINED FIRE THEM ITS UNEXCEPTABLE ! ONLY ALL HANDS AVAILABLE HELP OUT IN A TIME OF NEED !!!
The CITIZENS are the main help they've received...
That fire chief should be fired.
I lost all in lake lute. An got no help. All lake lure is worried about is lost revenue. Nor peiple that have lost all.
That is so sad! So very sorry! 💔🙏
In a MEGA diaster such as this you pull out all the stops to help YOUR community. Not stand on some sanctimonious B S because of your title or ego. As for the town manager I have one question. Did she work for the Biden Administration as a press secretary?
Absolutely so💯💯
Remember the Las Vegas shooting? Well the guy in charge of all that disaster silently failed up ! He was given a position in Lahaina Maui! I find that little detail interesting!
Wonder who they are taking orders from. Hmmmm I just wonder.
Right STEPS! Are they that incompetent during a raging flood that people were left to die because of steps? All hands should have been on deck with only one mission - to get people out any way possible!
I think the interviewer missed an important question with the town manager - What authorization would the pilot have needed to continue his rescue? I never heard the answer to that.
I'd really like to know what happened to all the electric start generators that was stolen, brand new, never started. Just gone.
they are just tryn to cover their arses
Yeah, I am mad about this, even angry. This is something the entire country needs to pay attention to because the next massive disaster could be where you live!
Maybe Lake Lure should have made the citizens aware sooner they were going to open the dam????
Great video. Thank you for your post.
This should be fully investigated and new procedures for massive disaster need to be put into place to keep people who I call "balloon headed self importance" from making such life threatening decissions! The only person in this incident that needed training and certification was the Assistant Chief!
I want that choppers pilot on my Team!!
One of the most important words I learned working in law enforcement was "Discretion". The Asst. Fire Chief reacted inappropiatly to the situation and in doing so put peoples lives in danger and should be held accountable. But in all probability he will not. The asst fire chief and the emergency management director should not be the same person. Those are 2 entirely different Jobs. Requiring different skills.
Mike Coffee was put in greater danger when they had to drag him across flood waters! This is totally imexcusable to put a person in that kind of danger when there was a safer way to get him to safety!
Absolutely 💯, this story reeks of lack of commonsense! They put him in danger because of their ego !
The ego of the modern day tyrant is astonishing. 😮
She should be fired along with the assistant chief.
Lies lies lies, cya
Here’s what I think is something interesting to point out, IF anyone from the chief, the lady answering the questions on the Chiefs behalf or any of their families would need to be rescued he would have moved the earth to make sure it was being done regardless of who was flying a helicopter out. Seems to me the Chief is a person that likes to be the one in control regardless of the severity of the situation.
It’s all about what he wants done! When he wants it done! How he wants it done! His rules and only his rules.
I bet a higher official contacted that chief and informed him to allow people to help, since the situation is considered a severity!!
I would be ashamed to be related to someone who did something like that. Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable behavior, especially by a government official employee who’s supposed to be in service of helping people out however it gets done.
being arrested is not a big deal it just means now the cops will have to speak with your lawyer
Right at that point and now who really cares about what the chief or assistant chief of the fire department or law enforcement cares when the only people who showed they cared about the victims who were stranded and terrified because of the devastation Helene did to The North Carolina people. The Governor and most of the law enforcement and FEMA have shown the world they simply did not care about the victims. It’s only because of RUclips Channels that people are being called out for not caring or doing their jobs to rescue and help the people in North Carolina. I think I would have went back and got that man and then let them arrest me. Proving to the world RUclipsrs were more concerned about the victims than the governor and most of the people trained to do the rescues. I don’t think anybody will ever forget what the governor and all the so called experts did not do to help the victims. To all the people who did rescue people and delivered much needed supplies of all things the victims needed. God Bless You All. We The People Have To Depend On Each Other Because Clearly The Officials did not and still do not care. PEOPLE HELPING PEOPLE ARE NORTH CAROLINA STRONG!!!
I believe that the fire chief that threatened to arrest the guy in the helicopter the fire chief he should lose his job or demote him there was a better way to inform him and in a respectful way to let him know way he can't go round and pick people up that he needs to have special clearance to go round rescuing people. I have no respect for that fire chief that's threatening too arrest people that are out there trying to help people
Lack of commonsense
Milton should be fired and Mike Coffey should sue the fire dept and Milton for their actions.
This incident goes against any training of a person who has served in emergency service! You can be arrested for not giving help to a victim! Doesn't matter if it is a car wreck or a flood! That assistant chief should be arrested for endangering flood victims! No wonder so many died! That assistant chief exhibit terratorial behavior! That flood was way over their head of being able to respond with help!
He's got a lot of blood on his hands🙏🙏🙏
Yes!!!!!
@@ZenaDail Other peoples when it should be his own.
Regular Citizens were leaders in the American Revolution!!
Do not apply strict rules in dire strait emergencies!!
Prayers 😢😢😢for wnc
This is such a heart-wrenching story and I'm glad to see it. This pilot is a fine man. No doubt about that. But I'm puzzled. The Robinson R-44 copter holds four people. Any explanation as to why they all four couldn't fly out at the same time?
He could have had cargo aboard, the seating layout may not have allowed more, and the altitude and weather conditions might not have safely allowed more. It's the pilot's decision to make because only he knows the complete situation. He was doing all he felt he could safely do so let's respect that and him.
NECESSITY NULLIFIES LAW 👈
Thank You for sharing this story! That Chief Idiot should be fired! He is a full of himself Jerk who doesn't need to be in that position! Those people needed help! A lot more help than that fire chief was willing to give!
She is full of crap!
Thank you for doing this story. What a disgrace that this hero was treated so terribly! it is unbelievable. I wish these "drunk on power officials" would have been arrested for causing undue suffering . I read another story or two of how they stopped other people from helping people who were in desperate need. Glad I don't live in that immediate area. Thank you to all the "real heros" who have helped during this disaster. God Bless You
How many passengers does that chopper hold?
First you need to understand that capacity can vary based on weather, elevation, your fuel load,and many other things including the layout of seating. This is an R44 and has a maximum capacity of 5 if the seating is arranged for that etc. For whatever reason the pilot didn't feel it was safe to have more than 2 aboard total and his decision should be respected because only he knew the conditions and capabilities of the aircraft and himself.
WOW
This spoke person is attempting to cover the fire departments back inside! I really wish the pilot had returned with the husband but in an area far enough away that the fire Chief couldn't do squat about it. Yes I understand this may have caused the pilot issues but the lives of People must come first always as well as the couples Cat! Now the fool who pulled this bull hockey refuses to talk with the media.. How can a fire department even threaten arrest as their Not Police officers? Something, someone stinks on that mountain side, IMPO. ❤❤❤
Amen, I agree. Charges should be placed on the assistant fire chief as to him really causing more chaos & potentially bodily harm during his choice of rescue plus his threats. Ego was blocking commonsense if there was any there?
I think Jordan is a hero as well and the fireman in lake lure, he should be ashamed of himself. The city manager as well. If anything ever happens where I am stranded I would hope and pray that Jordan would come and help me. God Bless
I agree that you should have helped all you can. The right or wrong can be determined later.
Upset? Un empathetic 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Never listen to Burns and HoolaHan!!!
No!
That's a load of BS. He made a ridiculous no common sense decision.Maybe he should open a florist instead of being a fire and rescue person.
I saw that when it happened and that was the stupidest thing I've ever seen with that official (I didn't know who he was) threatening this guy if he went back for the lady's husband !!! He was finally rescued, pulled across the raging life-threatening river on a rope !!!
That officer should be fired and not be able to hold office again. This is a dispickable abuse of his authority and a disgrace of the uniform. Typical!!!
Jordan Seidam is a very special man...MAYBE WE CAN GET HIM TO RUN FOR SHERIFF AGAIN IN CHESTERFIELD!!!
I wonder what would of happened if it were the fire chief's wife,who was stranded on a cliff??
This is an old video.
It's a further investigation of the incident that happened in October
What steps are needed in an Emergency such as this horrifying devastation!!!!!😣😣
Unfortunately they don't go by need, but by a cumbersome and inefficient "Incident Command" system which has roots back in the Republican passed "Patriot Acts" which were made into law after 9/11. In a declared disaster area they have total control and can do whatever they want to, while your civil rights are suspended.
In dire straits rules and laws don’t count!!
Just ask Hawkeye…
Olivia Stewman does not to be in her position of trying to act like she is wanting to help people.
HoolaHan speaking… necessary channels…