What I've noticed is the bigger channels get the more sensitive they get to any comments that aren't stroking their ego or agreeing with everything the RUclipsr says or does. Many times what are seen by a RUclipsr as negative comments will automatically then be seen as the poster being a 'troll' where in actual fact they are simply another's opinion that just happens to not go along with something the RUclipsr has done or said in a video. Seems to me the bigger many RUclipsrs get the less they can take any criticism. Of course that's not to say you don't get trolls aswell.
I totally agree... I have seen the same thing on other channels to people who may in fact have a valid point due to their articulation of what they're trying to say is coming across wrong to others (we tend to perceive facial expressions and body language as to someone's intention in face to face interactions) through no fault of their own. I should hope that we in the Ant survive the night community will be able to see the difference (trolls normally are just aggressive and have no end point to what they are saying).... because I'm not about bullying people, and I'm sure Ant isn't either....Good point that though 👍
Hi there Sog, yes I totally agree and I will say that some of these outdoor channels deserve to be told. Clearly faking things that happen on camps, doing one time reviews and saying it's the best product they have ever had then get another product and repeat the same words, making reviews in their back gardens in nice weather.... it goes on, these RUclipsrs need to be told, that is not trolling but when you know they are clearly trolling you or your content then this is when my idea should be implemented. I have no issues at all at someone leaving a constructive comment, (just take a look at my Raven's Crag video) in fact I welcome it as it makes your videos better and better as you take on board what the viewers are saying. Big thanks for your comment and opening this conversation up.
@@AntSurviveTheNight No worries Ant. Obviously this isn't an attack on you but simply me playing Devils advocate and bringing a different perspective into play. Yes of course as I said at the end of my previous comment, I do realise there are people who most definitely are trolls/instigators who's sole purpose is to cause trouble and/or be an idiot. I'm only a very small channel but even I have had the occasional dealings with said trolls so understand the frustrations a person may have with these modern day bullies. Have a blessed day fella. 🙂🤜🤛
If someone slags me off or calls me names. I agree with them. 😂 😂 it baffles the poor souls. It also works. Then I just delete the comment. Trolls ain’t bothering this Geordie lad 😂😂😂
Mr Wardle, you are a LEGEND, I know for a fact nothing bothers you dude, nerves of steel. I've seen first hand how you deal with them and it's sooooo funny. Me, I'd rather have a laugh with them by you guys, the subscribers and viewers of the channel because I know your more witty then I can ever be, so why not have a laugh and give some prizes out at the trolls expense (or mine actually lol)
Who knows Joe, I just do what I do and hope that people enjoy and trust my videos pal, some don't like that but honest and hard reviews will always be a part of this channel. Thanks matey.
Aye. Just watched a vid by our fellow northern lad Dan over at The English Woodsman and he's having a right hard time with trolls at the moment the poor guy.
Yeah it's something we as content creators are open to, it's the viewers choice to make that decision if a comment is deserved to be classed as a trolled comment or not. For me, I was making sure people aren't swindled out of their hard earned cash from a company that doesn't deserve our custom. These trolls were or were not sent by Camperlists
Brilliant one Ant.... Love it 👍 Although I'll never get these trolls, if you don't like a video, then just don't watch it or if you have, don't comment. If you disagree with anything said by you guys on youtube, the least you can do is be respectful in any of your replies. The work you all put into making these videos for our enjoyment is to be admired and praised, not slagged off. Keep up the good work Ant, I'm already looking forward to the next vid 😁
Thank you Ivan, there are different types of trolls, jealous ones, ones sent by companies, ones who want to get a reaction and wind you up, etc. Yes, there are fake RUclips outdoor channels, ones making videos for entertainment purposes only, by entertainment I mean making things up in videos. There's nothing wrong with that but pop something on the end of the video just to let people know that it's for fun, you know
The problem with trolling I find is that some people get accused of trolling when just giving an opinion. Of course, if someone is just being abusive or coming out with personal comments then then fine, they're a troll and block them. However, if the person making a video is giving opinions, either about a tent, or what to take camping or best sleeping bag etc, then they are not trolling but often are accused of doing so because the person making the video didn't like someone disagreeing with them. I've had it myself when giving my opinion on what i think are ridiculously priced Hilleberg tents and blocked 'trolling' which doesn't bother me if someone is that fickle but trolling can often be labelled at someone for just having a different opinion. I've seen many of the bigger channels throw their dummy out of the pram because someone had the audacity of disagreeing with their expert knowledge :-) But yes, I like your plan! What trolls don't realise is every time they view or comment on your channel, they are HELPING it! So win win :-)
I totally agree, I got accused of being a troll on a youtube channel, the guy was lying to his subs and I knew for a fact what he was saying was false. I called him out and he didn't like it. You can tell if people are genuinely commenting I'd say.
It's so true how they crop up more with success. I found after 5000 subs, they popped up more. They never have any videos up and rarely a real name. Worms and cowards. I hope your idea works, Ant. I didn't quite catch Si's channel? Ah, its ok,saw your link.
Morning buddy, yeah I'm with you on that, no names, videos. Made up accounts. Yeah let's hope it does but it gets the subscribers involved more in the channel and they get a nice little prize at the end of the year. Glad you found Si's channel 🙌
If I get crap being thrown at me for what ever reason ( usually parking like a Tw@ ) after they've had their rant my reply is I DONT CARE !! there's no answer to that one . Right behind you Ant .
Keyboard warriors lol 😆 hide them from the channel and report them. They try with us too. Always stay humble and haters always gonna hate. We pin too lmao 🤣 HAPPY HOPPING 👌🏼 👍🏼
Hey guys, hope your well. Yeah these were or were not sent over by Camperlists due to my well deserved trashing video of their customer service skills. Keep doing what you wanna do guys 👌
What I've noticed is the bigger channels get the more sensitive they get to any comments that aren't stroking their ego or agreeing with everything the RUclipsr says or does. Many times what are seen by a RUclipsr as negative comments will automatically then be seen as the poster being a 'troll' where in actual fact they are simply another's opinion that just happens to not go along with something the RUclipsr has done or said in a video. Seems to me the bigger many RUclipsrs get the less they can take any criticism. Of course that's not to say you don't get trolls aswell.
I totally agree... I have seen the same thing on other channels to people who may in fact have a valid point due to their articulation of what they're trying to say is coming across wrong to others (we tend to perceive facial expressions and body language as to someone's intention in face to face interactions) through no fault of their own. I should hope that we in the Ant survive the night community will be able to see the difference (trolls normally are just aggressive and have no end point to what they are saying).... because I'm not about bullying people, and I'm sure Ant isn't either....Good point that though 👍
Hi there Sog, yes I totally agree and I will say that some of these outdoor channels deserve to be told. Clearly faking things that happen on camps, doing one time reviews and saying it's the best product they have ever had then get another product and repeat the same words, making reviews in their back gardens in nice weather.... it goes on, these RUclipsrs need to be told, that is not trolling but when you know they are clearly trolling you or your content then this is when my idea should be implemented. I have no issues at all at someone leaving a constructive comment, (just take a look at my Raven's Crag video) in fact I welcome it as it makes your videos better and better as you take on board what the viewers are saying.
Big thanks for your comment and opening this conversation up.
Yeah thank for this comment too buddy.
@@AntSurviveTheNight
No worries Ant.
Obviously this isn't an attack on you but simply me playing Devils advocate and bringing a different perspective into play. Yes of course as I said at the end of my previous comment, I do realise there are people who most definitely are trolls/instigators who's sole purpose is to cause trouble and/or be an idiot. I'm only a very small channel but even I have had the occasional dealings with said trolls so understand the frustrations a person may have with these modern day bullies.
Have a blessed day fella. 🙂🤜🤛
Oh of course matey I didn't think that at all. I respect decent comments like this Sog 👌
If someone slags me off or calls me names. I agree with them. 😂 😂 it baffles the poor souls. It also works.
Then I just delete the comment. Trolls ain’t bothering this Geordie lad 😂😂😂
Mr Wardle, you are a LEGEND, I know for a fact nothing bothers you dude, nerves of steel. I've seen first hand how you deal with them and it's sooooo funny. Me, I'd rather have a laugh with them by you guys, the subscribers and viewers of the channel because I know your more witty then I can ever be, so why not have a laugh and give some prizes out at the trolls expense (or mine actually lol)
Sign of success that mate! Brilliant idea 😂
Who knows Joe, I just do what I do and hope that people enjoy and trust my videos pal, some don't like that but honest and hard reviews will always be a part of this channel. Thanks matey.
Game On...can I be Chief Superintendent of Troll Police?
Haha! 💯 my man, I would have no other in command. You're comments will take some beating so the guys better bring their A game 😆
Aye. Just watched a vid by our fellow northern lad Dan over at The English Woodsman and he's having a right hard time with trolls at the moment the poor guy.
Yeah it's something we as content creators are open to, it's the viewers choice to make that decision if a comment is deserved to be classed as a trolled comment or not. For me, I was making sure people aren't swindled out of their hard earned cash from a company that doesn't deserve our custom. These trolls were or were not sent by Camperlists
Best comment! Reet let's go!!!
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Brilliant one Ant.... Love it 👍
Although I'll never get these trolls, if you don't like a video, then just don't watch it or if you have, don't comment.
If you disagree with anything said by you guys on youtube, the least you can do is be respectful in any of your replies.
The work you all put into making these videos for our enjoyment is to be admired and praised, not slagged off.
Keep up the good work Ant, I'm already looking forward to the next vid 😁
Thank you Ivan, there are different types of trolls, jealous ones, ones sent by companies, ones who want to get a reaction and wind you up, etc. Yes, there are fake RUclips outdoor channels, ones making videos for entertainment purposes only, by entertainment I mean making things up in videos. There's nothing wrong with that but pop something on the end of the video just to let people know that it's for fun, you know
The problem with trolling I find is that some people get accused of trolling when just giving an opinion. Of course, if someone is just being abusive or coming out with personal comments then then fine, they're a troll and block them. However, if the person making a video is giving opinions, either about a tent, or what to take camping or best sleeping bag etc, then they are not trolling but often are accused of doing so because the person making the video didn't like someone disagreeing with them. I've had it myself when giving my opinion on what i think are ridiculously priced Hilleberg tents and blocked 'trolling' which doesn't bother me if someone is that fickle but trolling can often be labelled at someone for just having a different opinion. I've seen many of the bigger channels throw their dummy out of the pram because someone had the audacity of disagreeing with their expert knowledge :-) But yes, I like your plan! What trolls don't realise is every time they view or comment on your channel, they are HELPING it! So win win :-)
I totally agree, I got accused of being a troll on a youtube channel, the guy was lying to his subs and I knew for a fact what he was saying was false. I called him out and he didn't like it. You can tell if people are genuinely commenting I'd say.
All engagement is good for the channel. An awesome idea! I’ll be happy to do a little Troll baiting 😂
Haha thank you matey. Yep, every comment helps. Cheers matey!
Couldn't survive a night at a brothel haha. I must admit, i do laugh at some of the comments. Lets bring it people!
I probably couldn't 😆 yeah funny ones are great!
It's so true how they crop up more with success. I found after 5000 subs, they popped up more. They never have any videos up and rarely a real name. Worms and cowards. I hope your idea works, Ant. I didn't quite catch Si's channel? Ah, its ok,saw your link.
Morning buddy, yeah I'm with you on that, no names, videos. Made up accounts. Yeah let's hope it does but it gets the subscribers involved more in the channel and they get a nice little prize at the end of the year. Glad you found Si's channel 🙌
If I get crap being thrown at me for what ever reason ( usually parking like a Tw@ ) after they've had their rant my reply is I DONT CARE !! there's no answer to that one .
Right behind you Ant .
Yeah I just laugh at them, that winds them up more Tarmac haha. Thank you buddy!! 👍
👏😂...good idea that !....trolls are great for helping the channel activity algorithm along,...so in a way they are pretty awsome in that respect.
Oh for sure mate, there's a method in my madness 😄
Keyboard warriors lol 😆 hide them from the channel and report them. They try with us too. Always stay humble and haters always gonna hate. We pin too lmao 🤣 HAPPY HOPPING 👌🏼 👍🏼
Hey guys, hope your well. Yeah these were or were not sent over by Camperlists due to my well deserved trashing video of their customer service skills. Keep doing what you wanna do guys 👌
@AntSurviveTheNight you too. Lol. HAPPY HOPPING 👌🏼 👍🏼