Honestly I’m impressed the news was able to, not just turn absolutely nothing into a 4 minute segment, but also cast blame on absolutely anyone remotely involved except for the one person that was at fault… the criminal
So you are saying police don't have to follow state laws? Isn't that criminal? It's not the media investigating the cop for doing something illegal. How do you send a rookie out alone who hZsnt even gone to cop school yet,?
The automatic-anti-police are out in droves on any news item in which the news tries to demonize any police department. But, as you stated, all these 'controversial' cases being dredged up by anti-cop reporters in which rabid ex-felons get to post anti-cop vitriol in the comments all boil down to the same thing--it is ALWAYS the criminals' faults. This one is no different.
You must remember Police Officers have to operate within guidelines for everyone's safety. Henry Co. should have had more involvement in this pursuit, Muncie Police should have been more involved. Most every Law Enforcement Agency in Indiana operates on a common radio system with radio channels for everyone to communicate over. None of that occurred. This pursuit should have been terminated once it started to enter residential areas where children were going to school. I hope the prosecutor holds all parties responsible for this.
He wasn't even a certified officer yet so he had no right chasing a car and that makes him a criminal too . Started the academy a week and a half after the crash
@@cncmillman Enforce the law, which includes catching criminals. Places that have a no pursuit policy, like Chicago, have criminals drive off from traffic stops regularly, without ramifications.
The deputy did his job. The blame rests solely on the driver of the fleeing vehicle. This deputy did no wrong, and as far as I’m concerned, has a bright future ahead of him. This is garbage journalism
It's NOT garbage journalism, once he got into Muncie especially close to the schools he should have ended the pursuit or Henry County should have contacted Muncie PD to assist in the chase! There are PROTOCOLS that they have to pursue and if my Brother was in a supervisory role I PROMISE he would have called off the chase!
@@Michael-gu5kl I listen to the police scanner, and I can tell you that Muncie don't pursue, they let the criminals go. They aren't much of a police force as the seem to be afraid of the criminals and their lawyers.
The passenger was the one killed NOT the driver. I’ve been in a car with a reckless driver and have pleaded with them to let me out. The passenger was NOT the one in charge of the vehicle.
Why did you focus on the officer ?! Sounds like ambush journalism...........so why didnt you inform us about the criminals history ? Did the person with the driver have a record ? Great job investigating this !
The officer has no idea why the car was 'speeding'. Speeding alone is not a criminal offense... IT turned into a felony and criminal offense AFTER the officer activated his lights and went into pursuit mode..... DEPENDING how serious the cause for pursuit was, is the reason how long the pursuit takes place before being called off. DON'T YOU listen to the scanner or watch RUclips chase videos??? EVERT pursuit is given official approval shortly after it starts and CALLED off when it's deemed dangerous.! Especially pit maneuvers.... The Sherriff or Chief should be responsible for all decisions made in pursuits.......
The only person to blame for this was the driver of the car running from police.. You want to see crazy no holds barred police in action.... Take a look at Arkansas State Police... There sure as heck shouldn't be any charges levied against this officer... People are giving law enforcement a hard time and less funding when we need them most! The da needs to FO..
A LEO has one year from the date hired to attend the academy. A 40 hr. pre basic class must be completed before allowed on the road. The new hire should be trained by an FTO for several weeks and show competency before being released on their own.
You are probably angry with the police because they caught up to you! If only the chase policies were such in your time that they are now--where the cops get blamed and the criminals are free to run, then you wouldn't have that (or many numerous) felony conviction(s). Hopefully, you will live in a country where your kids can commit crimes and run from police with impunity!
Oh really? So who made the perpetrator run from the police instead of pulling over and stopping when they initiated the traffic stop? The criminal did not the police! The criminal refused to stop his car and continue driving. And the criminal crashed his vehicle, not as a result of the officers actions but because the criminal didn’t want to submit be held accountable for his actions! Don’t blame law enforcement for a criminals wrongdoing.
What a BS report. Hindsight is always 20/20, but in the moment, the Officer made the call to pursue but the responsibility for the chase, the crash and the death rests solely on the CRIMINAL who chose to run. Whether or not a Supervisor checked in or not has no bearing on if the pursuit was justified. Every Officer straight from the academy or with 20+ years, has been trained to have the judgement needed to make the call. Period.
Even if he had supervision he probably still would have crashed. He was trying to out run the police and he had no plans on stopping. Officers that don’t need supervision have made decisions to continue the chase and accidents happen. You play stupid games you win stupid prizes.
At the end of the deputy he’s calling out his speeds and locations the supervisors are supposed to be listening and tell him to terminate the chase if it’s to reckless !! So this video is not what it Seems!!
So,you're saying y'all can't think for yourselves?!...zero hand to hand combat,zero tactical operator training,yet y'all are Paramilitary?!...that's the start to a unsuccessful day!!!...
The suspect should be charged for aggravated manslaughter, aggravated assault and restitution for all damages & injuries and police resources! The insurance companies should charge restitution against the suspect for any insurance claims!
So a supervisor was on duty, was monitoring, and saw no reason to intervene. That is far from "was unsupervised". While driving the squad car, the deputy was giving position, traffic and speed updates regularly. However, it is unsafe to have conversations while driving at response or pursuit speeds. The supervisor could have intervened, terminated at any time. What a pathetic piece of pseudo-journalism.
How about holding the criminal accountable....Is that so hard???? Running should be a 20 year sentence with NO PAROLE just for this crap! Your story is terrible and the reason why criminals never get jail time!
You missed the part where the driver was treated for injuries and charged. what struck me here... 1. No supervision, 2... chase through school zones and three whether the officer was certified, as the report says he began police training after the crash.
Maybe the police should be able to do their jobs, and not have to explain every move . Dont commit crime ,then there is no problem. The defendant is solely responsible .
@@user-ni2jx7sw7l How about not running from the police You do know it has become a habit with criminals because they hope the perusing officers will be called off and they can get away Common sense
Attention to all passengers If you find yourself in a similar situation you can reach over and shift the vehicle into neutral and either take the key of hit the engine stop button Just a little common sense
The criminal caused the crash , the County needs to review it's policies and procedures to ensure better training before officers become active . The state needs to monitor law enforcement .
This officer 👮 saw someone putting others in harms way and to me he was doing his job which is he took a Oath to protect and serve the community...and thats what he was trying to do ...ive seen officers do worse and keep their jobs ...my Prayers to this police officer 👮 and i thank him for doing a amazing job of keeping the community safe ...GOD BLESS EVERYONE ¡¡¡☆☆☆❤he probably saved someone family to able to go home 🏡 that night ...or child ...❤
Should not let the driver fleeing any excuse! The driver decided to run, he’s the murderer!Not excusing the cop at all! 90mph in town! That’s crazy and no trained officer would have continued!
There are a number of factors to consider as an officer during a pursuit. What is the want? What are traffic conditions? You don't want to be chasing someone for speed when there are too many other cars on the road. Back off and follow at distance. You don't want to contribute the the death or injury of innocent people.
The cop definitely violated rules as it was obvious the rules were stated as he should have had supervision. A supervisor would have pulled him off of this chase when he got into a 30 mph zone and the chase was going 90 mph that can only end in death. High speed police chases almost always end in death or injury. They should be called off when they get dangerous. They have the license number of the car they can go after the person at their house. The police chases are never worth the death of innocent civilians.
So what are you expect because this is a rookie cop that he should allow someone who is possibly intoxicated swerving all over the road to just let him go because he’s a rookie and it might turn out bad? Where was the damn back up???? The criminal ran from the police. He wrecked his car because of his own reckless and dangerous actions not because of the actions of the cop. This journalism is disgusting! Don’t blame the police for doing their job. Blame the criminal who broke the law.
Watch older videos of The Political Spotlight to see the history of the sheriff. He has no experience either. He's violent and cost the city their insurance coverage!
Find a way to blame the officer because somebody died, so whose fault is it? Surely not the fleeing driver but the pursuer is definitely at fault? Yes?
Ok well what do you expect these officers to do. He was a sworn law enforcement officer what else does he need. Someone on the radio should have said to stop the pursuit. It shouldn’t be up to him to ask in the heat of the moment.
Quit making the police out to be the bad guys...The guy that ran was at fault period....When did we start protecting the law breakers and go after the people that try to uphold the law..This country has gone crazy...
Yea just like every other city they're bringing outta towners in and giving them free housing and food stamps and checks a month! Anderson indianapolis Muncie and many more! All for federal funds! Our goobernor mayor's our corrupt
Dude. Police pursuits are many times not needed. Yes, people shouldn't flee, but lighting people up instead of just following them is dumb as hell a lot of times.
Terrible reporting. Blame the cop for trying to stop criminal and dangerous behavior. No surprise that this story is coming from a CBS affiliate. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.
There is no doubt there was a pursuit in progress( proof of radio chatter),, you cannot deny. THAT 'pursuit in progress' alone could find the deputy guilty of being somewhat at fault for the cause of that accident and being charged with INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER. COULD the driver of that silver car slow down knowing he wasn't being chased IF the officer backed off before entering Muncie? ABSOLUTELY! Thank God no children near them schools was hurt!!!!!!!! THIS whole situation stinks! Gung-ho cops getting caught up in their own actions.
Internal review what a joke,it's obvious that the pursuit should have been terminated within the first few miles of the chase.and yes a few heads need to roll and the officer, sheriff deputy, what ever maybe needs to never wear a badge again because of poor judgment at minimum. But I would give him a year in county jail with sheriff and the duty Sargent.
Crime is out of control..and then you blame the officer....this is bull shit .OFFICER DONE HIS JOB.
Crime is always bad, but it isn't like in the 1970s and 1980s. Crime is way down from that mess.
Worst reporting of a pursuit ending crash I've ever heard. I'm 82 yrs old. Anti-law enforcement trash at cbs4 Indy.
Pro Tip: Don't hang with people that run from the police.
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Honestly I’m impressed the news was able to, not just turn absolutely nothing into a 4 minute segment, but also cast blame on absolutely anyone remotely involved except for the one person that was at fault… the criminal
So you are saying police don't have to follow state laws? Isn't that criminal? It's not the media investigating the cop for doing something illegal. How do you send a rookie out alone who hZsnt even gone to cop school yet,?
Criminals fault 100%
The automatic-anti-police are out in droves on any news item in which the news tries to demonize any police department. But, as you stated, all these 'controversial' cases being dredged up by anti-cop reporters in which rabid ex-felons get to post anti-cop vitriol in the comments all boil down to the same thing--it is ALWAYS the criminals' faults. This one is no different.
Horrible how you find a way to blame the cop instead of the criminal
You must remember Police Officers have to operate within guidelines for everyone's safety. Henry Co. should have had more involvement in this pursuit, Muncie Police should have been more involved. Most every Law Enforcement Agency in Indiana operates on a common radio system with radio channels for everyone to communicate over. None of that occurred. This pursuit should have been terminated once it started to enter residential areas where children were going to school. I hope the prosecutor holds all parties responsible for this.
@@markmanning5683 They were not going to school at 6am.
He wasn't even a certified officer yet so he had no right chasing a car and that makes him a criminal too . Started the academy a week and a half after the crash
@@BlueLineSwineExposer 🤡🤡🤡🤡
So we are blaming the police again for doing their jobs. Terrible
Remind us of what their job is? Because I don't think most Police officers even know.
@@cncmillman Enforce the law, which includes catching criminals. Places that have a no pursuit policy, like Chicago, have criminals drive off from traffic stops regularly, without ramifications.
The deputy did his job. The blame rests solely on the driver of the fleeing vehicle. This deputy did no wrong, and as far as I’m concerned, has a bright future ahead of him. This is garbage journalism
It's NOT garbage journalism, once he got into Muncie especially close to the schools he should have ended the pursuit or Henry County should have contacted Muncie PD to assist in the chase! There are PROTOCOLS that they have to pursue and if my Brother was in a supervisory role I PROMISE he would have called off the chase!
@@Michael-gu5kl I listen to the police scanner, and I can tell you that Muncie don't pursue, they let the criminals go. They aren't much of a police force as the seem to be afraid of the criminals and their lawyers.
@@Michael-gu5kl Right. Yeah. I don't know police even try an arrest anyone who resists.
@@terryburns1805 WOWSERS I'm surprised! Anyway, it will be interesting to see what the Delaware County Prosecutor says?
The smartest people in the world,omg their own charged him, but if ur angry and scared maybe just a tad reactionary rock on. Vote likud
Don't run from the law, problem solved
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The passenger was the one killed NOT the driver. I’ve been in a car with a reckless driver and have pleaded with them to let me out. The passenger was NOT the one in charge of the vehicle.
@@Paula-ps1vi Choose better friends.
@@George-dy3ptYou have the footwear licking fetish too? Doesn't seem very sanitary but hey whatever makes you happy! ☺️
@@George-dy3pt
And what do you lick ?
Another new channel trying to blame law enforcement caused by the reckless driver speeding to avoid law enforcement. Trying to get media attention!
News*
When did it become reckless? You must ask yourself this............
@@USMC-Sniper-0137
Did play the sniper in COD
Why did you focus on the officer ?! Sounds like ambush journalism...........so why didnt you inform us about the criminals history ? Did the person with the driver have a record ? Great job investigating this !
Ok so let's blame the police for...doing their job? wtf
The officer has no idea why the car was 'speeding'. Speeding alone is not a criminal offense... IT turned into a felony and criminal offense AFTER the officer activated his lights and went into pursuit mode..... DEPENDING how serious the cause for pursuit was, is the reason how long the pursuit takes place before being called off. DON'T YOU listen to the scanner or watch RUclips chase videos??? EVERT pursuit is given official approval shortly after it starts and CALLED off when it's deemed dangerous.! Especially pit maneuvers.... The Sherriff or Chief should be responsible for all decisions made in pursuits.......
The only person to blame for this was the driver of the car running from police.. You want to see crazy no holds barred police in action.... Take a look at Arkansas State Police... There sure as heck shouldn't be any charges levied against this officer... People are giving law enforcement a hard time and less funding when we need them most! The da needs to FO..
I agree, my only concern is what training did the officer have prior to this happening?
Arkansas HP are a bunch of Thugs
Thank you so much for showing what 80mph looks like...couldn't fathom it
I know! Mind boggling!
RIGHT, LOL.
I was so scared.,I closed my eyes and put my finger in one ear!
How do you start the police academy a week after they give you a badge, gun and cop car??? Seems backwards to me.
It's old fashion. Any sheriff of pretty much any county can deputize citizens. That is what seems like this situation is about.
A LEO has one year from the date hired to attend the academy. A 40 hr. pre basic class must be completed before allowed on the road. The new hire should be trained by an FTO for several weeks and show competency before being released on their own.
If any officer should be charged, the officer’s supervisor should be charged for not supervising the pursuit.
This is the most uninformed, ignorant comment by far.
Oh no he is y'all's Superman trying to catch the Deacon
Nothing new, we investigated ourselves and we found nothing wrong...😢
Same as always..nothing new...never do any wrong..
We need a ethics board for every police department to keep records of the police that perform outside guidelines for future jobs
You are probably angry with the police because they caught up to you! If only the chase policies were such in your time that they are now--where the cops get blamed and the criminals are free to run, then you wouldn't have that (or many numerous) felony conviction(s). Hopefully, you will live in a country where your kids can commit crimes and run from police with impunity!
Oh really? So who made the perpetrator run from the police instead of pulling over and stopping when they initiated the traffic stop? The criminal did not the police! The criminal refused to stop his car and continue driving. And the criminal crashed his vehicle, not as a result of the officers actions but because the criminal didn’t want to submit be held accountable for his actions! Don’t blame law enforcement for a criminals wrongdoing.
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What a BS report. Hindsight is always 20/20, but in the moment, the Officer made the call to pursue but the responsibility for the chase, the crash and the death rests solely on the CRIMINAL who chose to run. Whether or not a Supervisor checked in or not has no bearing on if the pursuit was justified. Every Officer straight from the academy or with 20+ years, has been trained to have the judgement needed to make the call. Period.
Even if he had supervision he probably still would have crashed. He was trying to out run the police and he had no plans on stopping. Officers that don’t need supervision have made decisions to continue the chase and accidents happen. You play stupid games you win stupid prizes.
At the end of the deputy he’s calling out his speeds and locations the supervisors are supposed to be listening and tell him to terminate the chase if it’s to reckless !! So this video is not what it Seems!!
What's this world coming to when criminals get into accidents after being chased?! The inhumanity!!
Lol you need more school/training to cut hair.
Exactly
"The good news is we recovered your car...the bad news is we recovered your car."
We're forgiving mistakes without learning from them....
So,you're saying y'all can't think for yourselves?!...zero hand to hand combat,zero tactical operator training,yet y'all are Paramilitary?!...that's the start to a unsuccessful day!!!...
The suspect should be charged for aggravated manslaughter, aggravated assault and restitution for all damages & injuries and police resources!
The insurance companies should charge restitution against the suspect for any insurance claims!
Supervision is required, since when do cops get a badge before they graduate the academy?
Stop blaming the police!
So a supervisor was on duty, was monitoring, and saw no reason to intervene. That is far from "was unsupervised". While driving the squad car, the deputy was giving position, traffic and speed updates regularly. However, it is unsafe to have conversations while driving at response or pursuit speeds. The supervisor could have intervened, terminated at any time.
What a pathetic piece of pseudo-journalism.
Imagine what that deputy must’ve been feeling on his own. Should’ve had some guidance there!!
How about holding the criminal accountable....Is that so hard???? Running should be a 20 year sentence with NO PAROLE just for this crap! Your story is terrible and the reason why criminals never get jail time!
You missed the part where the driver was treated for injuries and charged. what struck me here... 1. No supervision, 2... chase through school zones and three whether the officer was certified, as the report says he began police training after the crash.
@@user-ni2jx7sw7l
He was talking to supervisors on the radio or did you miss that part
@@FP194 Please go back to 2:30, the part where the reporter says no supervision, as confirmed by the Chief.
Maybe the police should be able to do their jobs, and not have to explain every move . Dont commit crime ,then there is no problem. The defendant is solely responsible .
That was the old way of policing. The public demands more transparency these days. If officers don't like accountability, find another line of work
@@user-ni2jx7sw7l
How about not running from the police
You do know it has become a habit with criminals because they hope the perusing officers will be called off and they can get away
Common sense
@@FP194 Police must assess the greater risk to the public and then be accountable for the decisions they make. You sound as if police can do no wrong.
Attention to all passengers
If you find yourself in a similar situation you can reach over and shift the vehicle into neutral and either take the key of hit the engine stop button
Just a little common sense
Thankfully no innocent folks were killed in this crash.
Why is the press knocking down a good pursuit with a good result?. The criminal was caught and he won't do it again.
The criminal caused the crash , the County needs to review it's policies and procedures to ensure better training before officers become active . The state needs to monitor law enforcement .
So a rookie with zero police training is out on his own?
This officer 👮 saw someone putting others in harms way and to me he was doing his job which is he took a Oath to protect and serve the community...and thats what he was trying to do ...ive seen officers do worse and keep their jobs ...my Prayers to this police officer 👮 and i thank him for doing a amazing job of keeping the community safe ...GOD BLESS EVERYONE ¡¡¡☆☆☆❤he probably saved someone family to able to go home 🏡 that night ...or child ...❤
Oh well.
How was he hired and on patrol without completing the academy? He was on patrol since July 23 but didn't start the academy until April 24??
Probably have a year to complete.
@@MACFORD88 Ok but in the meantime he is unqualified/certified.
Should not let the driver fleeing any excuse! The driver decided to run, he’s the murderer!Not excusing the cop at all! 90mph in town! That’s crazy and no trained officer would have continued!
This has everything to do with the criminal fleeing from the law and nothing to do with the deputy. Change your tone.
There are a number of factors to consider as an officer during a pursuit. What is the want? What are traffic conditions? You don't want to be chasing someone for speed when there are too many other cars on the road. Back off and follow at distance. You don't want to contribute the the death or injury of innocent people.
The cop definitely violated rules as it was obvious the rules were stated as he should have had supervision. A supervisor would have pulled him off of this chase when he got into a 30 mph zone and the chase was going 90 mph that can only end in death. High speed police chases almost always end in death or injury. They should be called off when they get dangerous. They have the license number of the car they can go after the person at their house. The police chases are never worth the death of innocent civilians.
all I hear is The Officer needs supervisor
Not the suspect/criminal should not be running from
the police!!!
So what are you expect because this is a rookie cop that he should allow someone who is possibly intoxicated swerving all over the road to just let him go because he’s a rookie and it might turn out bad? Where was the damn back up????
The criminal ran from the police. He wrecked his car because of his own reckless and dangerous actions not because of the actions of the cop. This journalism is disgusting! Don’t blame the police for doing their job. Blame the criminal who broke the law.
What a stupid report!
Din't run from the police.
And why are you blaming the officer? Dumb news people
Watch older videos of The Political Spotlight to see the history of the sheriff. He has no experience either. He's violent and cost the city their insurance coverage!
Find a way to blame the officer because somebody died, so whose fault is it? Surely not the fleeing driver but the pursuer is definitely at fault? Yes?
Sad
We all need nanny minders
You people need to find something better to investigate….America is tired of your bs
Ok well what do you expect these officers to do. He was a sworn law enforcement officer what else does he need. Someone on the radio should have said to stop the pursuit. It shouldn’t be up to him to ask in the heat of the moment.
Quit making the police out to be the bad guys...The guy that ran was at fault period....When did we start protecting the law breakers and go after the people that try to uphold the law..This country has gone crazy...
Showing the video sped-up? lol...
with a wide-angle lens, 10mph looks like 500... 🙄
As usual blame the cop, the suspect is 100% at fault and no cop should be .
I was in Muncie for 2 years
Everything was good now its crazy
Yea just like every other city they're bringing outta towners in and giving them free housing and food stamps and checks a month! Anderson indianapolis Muncie and many more! All for federal funds! Our goobernor mayor's our corrupt
What privilege to get you
Dude. Police pursuits are many times not needed. Yes, people shouldn't flee, but lighting people up instead of just following them is dumb as hell a lot of times.
Terrible reporting. Blame the cop for trying to stop criminal and dangerous behavior. No surprise that this story is coming from a CBS affiliate. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.
Hey CBS4….Do better!!!
This is the "media" 🖕
Always the same people 😮😮😮😮😮
I think that the did nothing also. By the sound of it he didn't seem involved and knew in his mind that he is new of the job.
STOP chasing at high speeds!
STOP running from the police at high speeds
@@FP194 let’s see if both happen. Don’t hold your breath
No supervisor because they don’t care because of qualified immunity allows the police to do stupid stuff.
He was in the radio with supervisors or did you miss that part
Another ball dropped.
There is no doubt there was a pursuit in progress( proof of radio chatter),, you cannot deny. THAT 'pursuit in progress' alone could find the deputy guilty of being somewhat at fault for the cause of that accident and being charged with INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER. COULD the driver of that silver car slow down knowing he wasn't being chased IF the officer backed off before entering Muncie? ABSOLUTELY! Thank God no children near them schools was hurt!!!!!!!! THIS whole situation stinks! Gung-ho cops getting caught up in their own actions.
Back the Blue
FTP
Internal review what a joke,it's obvious that the pursuit should have been terminated within the first few miles of the chase.and yes a few heads need to roll and the officer, sheriff deputy, what ever maybe needs to never wear a badge again because of poor judgment at minimum. But I would give him a year in county jail with sheriff and the duty Sargent.
COP NEED TO GO TI JAIL😂😂
HE BROKE THE LAW WE ALL KNOW IT
Must be Trump supporters
Blame the officer.