Most people nowadays just want a network bridge a dedicated streamer without a built in sub par integrated dac, with balanced outs with good software at a lower price
I suspect that this product line may cannibalize sales from NAD, especially the Icon for which I'm keenly awaiting reviews. I've an M10 V1 to which outboard amplification has been added which has elevated the listening experience considerably. The Icon will get Dirac, has by all accounts a much better DAC than the M10 and suddenly the M10 is irrelevant as the core of a streaming system - with external amplification anyway - and at a much more reasonable price point. Dirac which is something is something rarely reviewed adds another layer of awesome on top - it makes a huge difference when implemented correctly. Both use BluOS so one should be a drop in replacement for the other. I'm amazed the Icon was permitted to exist given Bluesound and NAD have the same parent and exist side by side. So please bring forth a review of the Icon for those of us with a keen interest in this line of products.
Thank you Ed for this sneak peak. With reference to the latter end points you make re Sonos and the mess they appeared to have made to their own customer bed sheets. This would seem to take on quite nicely the port or even older Sonos customers such as myself for the Connect. My S1 app for my now 12 years old connect is almost unusable with constant file playback issues after the s2 updates. So a nice side step to this vs the node could fit the bill perfectly, so I say thank you again for your work and help bringing this to my attention. Regards
Hi . Could i ask you how you manage to lower noise coming from Supernait 2 . Naim eco system there is ground lift with source devices connected to amplifiers and it works. I bought IFI ground zero, and it doesnt solve it.
… dude… dust your equipment. It looks like cats were copulating on it. I don't know how the company releases this footage. I mean if you don't care I get it but subconsciously everyone thinks everything looks trash. I'm looking for a job if you need any more advice.
Well the gauntlet has certainly been thrown. The other subject doubtless to be discussed ad nauseam is don’t brick your customers’ extensive investment in your closed garden ecosystem with a botched app upgrade rushed to coincide with a new piece of expensive hardware that few of them asked for.
@@Audiodreamer192-24 Been very happy with my Node in living room system for over 2 years. The only upgrade to that system I’ve played with is a miniDSP for some EQ of mains and sub.
@@Audiodreamer192-24 are they really higher-quality though? Or does WiiM build an equally good product for a better price?? I can't really tell a lot of difference between the node 2i and WiiM pro plus. I have both. Both sound great! I run them with with an audio lab 9000a and bowers & wilkins 705
@@Audiodreamer192-24yes, but what about comparing this particular device with, let’s say, wiim pro? What is the benefit having Node Nano? I’m asking because thinking to possibly switch to Bluesound in future
Wiim Ultra with screen, HDMI, Line-in & out, opt in & out, phone in (SQ??) Sub out, room EQ (basic but not bad) for £30 more. Case use dependant of course, but for starting a system or for pure ability, I cannot see why you'd choose this unless you bound to Bluesound.
I think he says why you would choose it about the halfway point. The fact that blue OS going all the way back to their earliest products, those earliest products are still supported and you can still plug them in and hook them up and still stream music and use them, I know it's still early for whim but I would bet my hard-earned money that in a few years time that won't be the case with them. Also frankly speaking a friend of mine got the whim mini and I checked it out and it worked obviously but I thought the software wasn't as polished as the blue OS software, I mean it's not bad but it's just not as good, and if I'm going to be interacting with a piece of software constantly I want that software to be as faultless as possible and blue OS is that. Another thing is not everybody wants inputs and outputs on a streamer, that's why I have my amplifier, sure it's convenient but ultimately on most of these products that have ins and outs I don't use them, so why should I buy a product with them? Sorry for some of the spelling I'm using voice to text. And by the way don't take my comments as a knock against whim, I think they've created a nice space for themselves And ultimately make a nice product but me personally I think the bluesound stuff is just better
Why you'd choose this over the WiiM Ultra? Cheapaudioman has just reviewed both and thinks the Nano sounds better than the Ultra. So it's more features over SQ. Pick your horse.
@@Audiorevue Valid points. TBF I'm coming from this from a position where I want the connections. At some point I've always added things to my gear. I have a headphone DAC that has 2x XLR in 2X RCA in. XLR out and RCA out and sub out In a few months I've gone from just headphone out, to using every in and out. I have very quickly used Blue OS years ago and did like it, but I don't have issues with Wiim either. I don't have issues at al with this, it just poses a risk I will outgrow it and something not really worse sounding that isn't a risk in buying.
Blue sound is of higher quality then the wiim. There is a new node “icon” coming in the fall that is far superior to the ultra dual sabre dac chips with high quality implementation and and parts. 5” screen, state of the art preamp, balanced XLR, Dirac room correction instead of using your phones mic in the ultra and plethora of connections. Randy from CAM said he thinks this nano sounds better the all the wiim products including the ultra, came out today see for yourself.
The sound of Bluesound products is a step up from Sonos, but I would never buy one of their products again. I bought their products because it would integrate with Google Assistant, but the integration was horrible and is now even non existent.
It's far too expensive, pretty terrible value .... should be £200 maximum. For an extra £50 you can get a wiim ultra with HDMI eArc, parametric equalizer and a screen.
Cheapaudioman thinks the Bluesound Node Nano sounds better than the WiiM Ultra. So you makes your choice and takes your pick....weigh up ultimate SQ against features.
Still overpriced for what you’re getting and what’s out here . Companies these days can’t differentiate between making a killing or making a living. Not bad for a $140 product but $299 get outta here. Too much competition has crushed this at the gate of this price range
@@D1N02 nahhh not true CAM said it sounds better then all with m products including the ultra. And wiim sponsors him so that says something. The icon will be far superior to the ultra in every way.and BluOS is immaculate as well so …
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I don’t think most Sonos customers even know what a Bluesound anything is.
Sonos is a mess currently.
They don’t need too, Sonos is a lifestyle product, blusound is competing Wiim!
Most people nowadays just want a network bridge a dedicated streamer without a built in sub par integrated dac, with balanced outs with good software at a lower price
I suspect that this product line may cannibalize sales from NAD, especially the Icon for which I'm keenly awaiting reviews. I've an M10 V1 to which outboard amplification has been added which has elevated the listening experience considerably. The Icon will get Dirac, has by all accounts a much better DAC than the M10 and suddenly the M10 is irrelevant as the core of a streaming system - with external amplification anyway - and at a much more reasonable price point. Dirac which is something is something rarely reviewed adds another layer of awesome on top - it makes a huge difference when implemented correctly. Both use BluOS so one should be a drop in replacement for the other. I'm amazed the Icon was permitted to exist given Bluesound and NAD have the same parent and exist side by side.
So please bring forth a review of the Icon for those of us with a keen interest in this line of products.
The DAC 'Chip' is an UPGRADE on the one in the Node X ! ! U didn't mention this ! ?
Thank you Ed for this sneak peak.
With reference to the latter end points you make re Sonos and the mess they appeared to have made to their own customer bed sheets. This would seem to take on quite nicely the port or even older Sonos customers such as myself for the Connect.
My S1 app for my now 12 years old connect is almost unusable with constant file playback issues after the s2 updates. So a nice side step to this vs the node could fit the bill perfectly, so I say thank you again for your work and help bringing this to my attention.
Regards
meantime bluesound website blank page with "Error establishing a database connection"
too much traffic. it's happening sporadically.
Can I cast my music to it from my Amazon music app? If so, can I group it with my other Google home audio devices?
Hi . Could i ask you how you manage to lower noise coming from Supernait 2 . Naim eco system there is ground lift with source devices connected to amplifiers and it works. I bought IFI ground zero, and it doesnt solve it.
is it possible to output 24/192 signal by using Usb Out? Is it possible to read a penndrive and to output versus a DAC at the same time?
Yes the usb out can stream 24/192, I send it to my dac and it sounds incredible
Besides Apple Music, am I missing RUclips music?
DH Labs Toslink Glass Master 😊
… dude… dust your equipment. It looks like cats were copulating on it. I don't know how the company releases this footage. I mean if you don't care I get it but subconsciously everyone thinks everything looks trash. I'm looking for a job if you need any more advice.
Are they trying to compete with Wiim?
Well the gauntlet has certainly been thrown. The other subject doubtless to be discussed ad nauseam is don’t brick your customers’ extensive investment in your closed garden ecosystem with a botched app upgrade rushed to coincide with a new piece of expensive hardware that few of them asked for.
Bluesound is a higher quality product in a higher price bracket, so I’d say not really.
@@Audiodreamer192-24 Been very happy with my Node in living room system for over 2 years. The only upgrade to that system I’ve played with is a miniDSP for some EQ of mains and sub.
@@Audiodreamer192-24 are they really higher-quality though? Or does WiiM build an equally good product for a better price?? I can't really tell a lot of difference between the node 2i and WiiM pro plus. I have both. Both sound great! I run them with with an audio lab 9000a and bowers & wilkins 705
@@Audiodreamer192-24yes, but what about comparing this particular device with, let’s say, wiim pro? What is the benefit having Node Nano? I’m asking because thinking to possibly switch to Bluesound in future
You need to dust your equipment 😂
Wiim Ultra with screen, HDMI, Line-in & out, opt in & out, phone in (SQ??) Sub out, room EQ (basic but not bad) for £30 more. Case use dependant of course, but for starting a system or for pure ability, I cannot see why you'd choose this unless you bound to Bluesound.
I think he says why you would choose it about the halfway point. The fact that blue OS going all the way back to their earliest products, those earliest products are still supported and you can still plug them in and hook them up and still stream music and use them, I know it's still early for whim but I would bet my hard-earned money that in a few years time that won't be the case with them.
Also frankly speaking a friend of mine got the whim mini and I checked it out and it worked obviously but I thought the software wasn't as polished as the blue OS software, I mean it's not bad but it's just not as good, and if I'm going to be interacting with a piece of software constantly I want that software to be as faultless as possible and blue OS is that. Another thing is not everybody wants inputs and outputs on a streamer, that's why I have my amplifier, sure it's convenient but ultimately on most of these products that have ins and outs I don't use them, so why should I buy a product with them?
Sorry for some of the spelling I'm using voice to text. And by the way don't take my comments as a knock against whim, I think they've created a nice space for themselves And ultimately make a nice product but me personally I think the bluesound stuff is just better
Why you'd choose this over the WiiM Ultra? Cheapaudioman has just reviewed both and thinks the Nano sounds better than the Ultra. So it's more features over SQ. Pick your horse.
@@Audiorevue Valid points. TBF I'm coming from this from a position where I want the connections. At some point I've always added things to my gear. I have a headphone DAC that has 2x XLR in 2X RCA in. XLR out and RCA out and sub out
In a few months I've gone from just headphone out, to using every in and out.
I have very quickly used Blue OS years ago and did like it, but I don't have issues with Wiim either. I don't have issues at al with this, it just poses a risk I will outgrow it and something not really worse sounding that isn't a risk in buying.
@@MohsinWadee Considering where might be putting something like this, SQ isn't the top priority so yes pick your poison.
Blue sound is of higher quality then the wiim. There is a new node “icon” coming in the fall that is far superior to the ultra dual sabre dac chips with high quality implementation and and parts. 5” screen, state of the art preamp, balanced XLR, Dirac room correction instead of using your phones mic in the ultra and plethora of connections. Randy from CAM said he thinks this nano sounds better the all the wiim products including the ultra, came out today see for yourself.
The sound of Bluesound products is a step up from Sonos, but I would never buy one of their products again. I bought their products because it would integrate with Google Assistant, but the integration was horrible and is now even non existent.
It's far too expensive, pretty terrible value .... should be £200 maximum. For an extra £50 you can get a wiim ultra with HDMI eArc, parametric equalizer and a screen.
The sound quality is way way way more important than those things and it is better than any wiim product when it comes to that
There is no competition under £600 for the Wim ultra
The wiim software is awful.
WiiM’s software on my Ultra has been bulletproof. There are tons of updates coming all the time.
Cheapaudioman thinks the Bluesound Node Nano sounds better than the WiiM Ultra. So you makes your choice and takes your pick....weigh up ultimate SQ against features.
@@coinopanimator it's great actually.
If you value sound quality over extra functions…. Blusound Nano beats the Wiim!
Still overpriced for what you’re getting and what’s out here . Companies these days can’t differentiate between making a killing or making a living. Not bad for a $140 product but $299 get outta here. Too much competition has crushed this at the gate of this price range
Twice the price of the WIIM pro. WIIM software is even better than Bluesound. The Ultra is a step up even, for not much more.
Nope. Watch Cheapaudioman's review. It depends on what you need from a cheapish streamer.
Your opinion about the software being better than Bluesound is just that...an opinion. Others, like the author of this video, would disagree.
@@johnstone7697 thank you but I was aware my opinion is the best one, because it is mine.
@@D1N02 nahhh not true
CAM said it sounds better then all with m products including the ultra. And wiim sponsors him so that says something. The icon will be far superior to the ultra in every way.and BluOS is immaculate as well so …
@@Audiodreamer192-24CAM is a clown...🙄