KANG: How Shang-Chi, Ms. Marvel, and the Eternals Connect to QUANTUMANIA - Theory!
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Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania is introducing Kang the Conqueror, the Big Bad of the the MCU's Multiverse Saga. But how will Kang connect to the running mysteries of the Marvel Cinematic Universe? We have a theory on how the Quantum Realm connects to Shang-Chi, the Eternals, Ms. Marvel and more.
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The trailer for Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania didn’t just give us our first look at Kang the conqueror, but it also containts major clues to what he’s planning.
Kang is in the quantum realm and he’s building something, something that will lead directly to Secret Wars.
And this pyramid with these massive rings is going be very important in the movie. And if these rings look very familiar, that’s cause they are. They have a very obvious
resembles the 10 rings in Shang-Chi.
So why is Kang’s ring stracutre looks like the 10 rings, what is the connection there?
Well, we think we cracked the code on the insante connection between these rings, the quantum realm, the multiverse, time travel, Ms Marvel’s bangle and even the Celestials. All of these things are connected, and Kang is at the center of it all.
This is all part of Kang’s plan to conquer all of time and the multiverse.
and if we are right about our theory, Quantumania will explain how the sacred timeline was broken in Loki, and what is Kang planing in Secret Wars.
This theory is gonna get kinda wild.
Alright let’s start with the rings.
There is no way that the similertiy between the 10 rings and Kang’s rings is random. They don’t just resemble each other in shape and design, but also the
blue energy at their center.
Also, am I the only when that counting about 10 rings in this shot? Maybe I’m just seeing things, but I’m prety sure Marvel is telling us something with these shots in the trailer.
Kang’s technology is dominated by the color blue - his helmet, his ring platform, his army and ship, they all glow with blue energy.
The 10 rings also glowed with a blue energy.
Though the color of the rings changed to gold when Shang controlled them. We think we know why, but we will get to it a little bit later in the video.
So we think we know how the 10 rings connect to the quantum realm.
We previously theorised that the MCU’s 10 rings will be very different from the comics. Instead of being created by the dragon like aliens the Makluan, the MCU version are actually the Quantum Bands.
These bracelet were created by an ancient alien tree stump with a wig on called Eon. We got a glimpse of him in Thor Love and Thunder.
The bands were awarded to powerful individuals to serve as the protectors of the universe.
And here’s the thing, the bands draw energy from the quantum zone. The quantum realm is the MCU equivalent of it.
What’s most important about the quantum zone is that all the energy in the universe flows from this realm. 
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Being connected by crappy mcu installments
I can see that Kamala's bangle is related to the rings, but I don't know how that connects her to Carol Danvers or Monica Rambeau for that matter. Is "signal" which the rings are sending from when Shange Chi took over related to the signal Cassie Lang creates in Quantemania?
You went to Italy? I thought you had never left the video store...
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@@Crazy_Talk96 ur the one crappy taste
I kinda thought the timeline started splitting before Sylvie killed him because she already made up her mind to do so.
He who remains knew he would die too aswell because nothing he knew wasn’t being predicted/printed
EXACTLY!!!!!!! Why do content creators keep forgetting that????? I have been saying what both of you said since it happened
didn’t it split whenever Loki and Sylvie kissed each other? the TVA were very concerned after that
@@heartrune24 I believe the TVA got them out before it was too late
Which Kang was probably responsible for that to cause and He who remains I guess didn't saw that coming.
12:56 Emperor Palpatine is my favorite Lord of the Rings character.
Came here to say this
When I saw Loki, my immediate take was that the “threshold” was simply the end of the “script” that He Who Remains had written for everything that would happen up to that point. He had been manipulating reality like this, keeping the timeline pruned so it wouldn’t branch into a multiverse, for aeons - thousands, maybe millions of years - and it had driven him mad as a hatter. He wanted out. So he engineered a scenario where the two Lokis he wanted to replace him would come and listen to his story, and at that point he would *relinquish control* over the timeline. That’s why it starts to branch at that moment - because he’s stopped actively preventing it from doing so. He probably hoped that would encourage the Lokis to take over quickly before it got worse. But in the moment he’s just giddy with excitement because for the first time in ages, he doesn’t know what’s going to happen.
Definitely my mind thinking now I think your right
If he wanted someone to take his place and protect the timeliness wouldn't he have picked a better suited hero? Someone intelligent and strong/brave
@@dylanbenjamin2632 sometimes a hero is not what you need. 🤷🤷
@@dylanbenjamin2632 isn’t kang not necessarily a hero himself?
12:56 I love the part in Return of the King when Palpatine initiated order 66 to cause all the clones to become orcs and manipulated Anakin to wear the one ring and fall to the dark side and fall into mount doom thus becoming Darth Vader.
Yeah man that was truly epic 😭
Lol thank you for this I chuckled when I saw the label read return of the king
This must be the Super Extended Funtime Edition of LOTR - ROTK!
This was so funny, the first 1500 times I saw it, starting years ago....
I haven’t seen this extended version yet!
(12:55) Ahh Darth Sidious, my favourite character in Lord of the Rings!
Came looking for this comment. Haha
LOL - I'm glad someone else noticed that, too!
This comment needs more likes. Came here hoping someone noticed this
Came to see if anyone else caught that, I knew people would
I think the fact that the director of Shang Chi is directing the Kang Dynasty lends a lot of credibility to this theory. Yes, he is a fantastic director in his own right, but it's more likely that his familiarity with the world set up in 10 Rings directly leads into Kang territory.
There's probably going to be themes of intergenerational trauma as well, now that I think about it.
That movie Shang chi, sucked. 🙄
What a waste of a movie
@@Kaotik199O agree
@@Kaotik199O no!
@@Kaotik199O no it did not you’re tasteless if you think that
I agree with the rings being from Kang. They were set up to send the signal, to let Kang know it's time to break the time line, leading us into Loki's timeline split.
HOLY FUCKIGN SHIT DUDE.. WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS ACTUALLY SO FUCKING POSSIBLE
So we should just forget shang chi's father using the rings for centuries before all of that.
@@lambonage Correct me if i’m wrong, but Wong and the others did say that they felt the rings’ power when Shang Chi used them (when they turned gold). No one had ever reported anything about the rings when Wenwu had them. So maybe, the rings only began sending signals after Shang Chi used them to their fullest potential. Does it make sense?? 😅😅
@@lambonage where was that said? I said that the signal could have been Kang's way of knowing when to start the multiverse war again. Also, his father's rings were Blue in color. When they changed to Orange for Shang Chi, that could be the moment the signal started.
@@Sho-zl3re that’s a great theory
Brain melted half way through. Well done Ryan!
ME TOOOOO probably one of my favorite videos he’s made
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For a hot second I was like wtf is Brian?
A theory me and my best friend had was that each Celestial kinda acts on their own so the Eternals might have been Arishem's thing and Ego might've been another Celestial's attempt at making a more biological approach to creating new celestials instead of bursting through a planet. This kind of allows for more possibilities and just connect it saying "this is a celestial thing". In essence, the bands could definitely be the work of the Celestials but one singular celestial. Our theory is kinda backed up by the fact that in the Eternals movie you only see the Eternals interacting with Arishem and not some council of Celestials.
huh, that's a pretty good theory actually
I think the celestials work together and all do things for arishem tbh but my theory is that ego was created as an upgrade to the current celestials so he could take out galacticus, little do they know it would reset the universe lol 😆
Good theory. But the reason they only interact with arishem could be because he is the judge. He alone makes the decision on their fate and is left to make that decision.
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LMFAOOO😂😂😂😂😂
“RETURN OF THE KING”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
came right to the comments to see who else caught that 😂
10 rings, bangles, Bloodstone, Ebony Blade, all these relics play some role.
The bangles > walk like an Egyptian > Khonshu > Moon Knight return confirmed!
@@lw1391 KKK
@@matthewdonnison1385 💀😂😂
Facts cause remember kang has lived a million lifetimes(what he who remains said)
@@matthewdonnison1385 fukn hilarious hahaha
Thank you for the time and effort you put into your theories and videos. This was a prime example of why I frequent your channel.
I hope Antman 3 is a drinking game with adult viewers being cued to drink everytime someone says Quantum
I like the idea that we're about to see everything unfold that He Who Remains described as "long ago" because what is time to him. Like what if the Kang we're about to see is the same one that he was describing in Loki that sparked the multiverse war in the first place. Everything we're about to witness in phase five is what causes him to create the sacred timeline loop that we've already been in for all the other phases.
Yeah because based on how he described the whole ordeal basically the beginning of the war is also the end of it
Your emperor quote that things are proceeding as planned, you cited it as LOTR: Return of the King.
Love the video! Cool theory.
Came here to say this.
Me too 😂
Somehow Palpatine returned
ahahahhahah true
We need a LOTR Starwars Marvel crossover NOW
I assumed the "threshold" He Who Remains referred to was his decision to step off the loop and offer control of the timeline to Sylvie and Loki. He made it really clear that he could have beat them and that could have been part of his known time loop. I think the threshold he refers to is trying something new instead of simply dispatching them again because he's tired and "older than he looks" and ready for change even if he dies because he assumes he's inevitable.
To take it a step further HWR only felt comfortable taking a risk on passing the TVA torch to the Lokis because he didn't know that one of the other Kangs has been biding his time in the quantum realm. Quantum realm Kang has been amassing an army and power so that this time around he can win the multiversal war and prevent HWR from winning and starting his infinite loop all over again.
From this theory, do you think that "Avenger's: Kang Dynesty" will be essentially a war between Kang the Conquerer and Kang He who remains. It sounded like He who remains was planning to come back, and at least according to this theory it sounds like Kang also doesn't want a multi-kang war, he wants to be the one who defeats he-who-remains. Which honestly sounds like one epic film
Strong feeling that Shang-Chi’s 10 rings are from the quantum realm and miniature versions of those giant rings. Because in Shang Chi, it also was sending out a message to a place may be in the quantum realm. So I can totally see him show up in this. Bruce and Captain Marvel had no idea what kind of tech this was. Also since the time is irrelevant in the quantum realm, it makes sense that Wen Wu found it so long ago.
Ryan, Doug, and the rest of the team at SCREEN CRUSH, are absolutely amazing. The quality of ur content is unreal! I love it!!! Keep being fantastic my friends!!
Just wanted to point out....the shot of the older Janet van dyne watching streaks of light come in to quantum realm is her flashback seeing avengers come in during endgame. Those streaks are the different time traveling groups in endgame. One going to NY another going to space, another one going to asgard, etc
originally I thought "wouldnt that not make sense given that janet was already out of the quantum realm before endgame" before realizing that time occurs differently in the quantum realm so it already happened, much like how kang is already there with chronopolis during the events of antman and the wasp and it also backs up how the avengers were meant to be time travel in the first place but idk about the kang part being there, kinda backs up how ryan said he's been there since the beginning of time?
She was dusted though. I'm confused 😕
@@christina8101 they went back to 2012, 2013 and 2014, all of which were times that Janet was still in the quantum realm. I get it, but again, doesn't make perfect sense.
@Jonathan L Tiffany but the quantum realm is outside of time and space, so she wouldn't still be down there when they time traveled. It could just be other time travelers from other universes.
Next Theory Idea: Will Loki, Sylvie, and Mobius be in AntMan and The Wasp: Quantumania?
i dont think so since the events might take place the same time as Loki
@@abdihamid17Oh....
Also interested to know how Kang got those scars. And if he'll tell a different story each time lol.
He probably got them during the multiversal war or something. He Who Remains doesn't have them.
I was just thinking about this. I feel like the scars were either given to him, so that all of the other Kang variants can tell which variant is The Conqueror, or as you said, he probably got them from the first Multiversal War.
I believe the “threshold” in Loki was the timeline going past red line. at that point in the show, the TVA agents were on the timeline exposing the truth about the TVA which could have caused it to branch and go past red line which is the point where HWR can’t keep the timeline in order anymore. but i could be wrong. logically that just makes the most sense to me
That’s what I thought as well. But then again who knows what they need to fit into the narrative and how they will change stuff to do it.
Exactly. The foil occurred before the threshold was reached.
Or the threshold is the end of time and a 2nd big bang is about to happen
Genuinely one of if not my favorite videos you’ve made in a long time. More stuff like this if possible. It’s awesome
Well. Kang Dynasty is definitely going to be about stopping Kang, but an incursion with 616 and another universe, and the collapse of the multiverse, caused by all these shenanigans will definitely be a part of the story. I like it. Sounds fun.
Genuinely one of my favorite theories on this channel -- a friend and I were talking about a good bit of this last week and it is SO validating to hear Ryan saying in on here. Solid as always ✊
12:56 , my favorite LotR quote, nice lol
Love your videos
I am so stoked for this whole phase. Like Iman Vellani, apparently, I also have a notebook full of my random thoughts and notes about potentially pivotal moments that have already happened, but can have some incredible meaning if given a future connection. What feels like intentional setting up to pull off a villain who can travel through time and would have been around long before, pulling the strings. For example, in "What If...", we see Hank Pym go on a murderous rampage while being undetectable. Imagine now someone like Kang having access to Pym's shrinking tech. Which is what happened when Darren Cross and the Yellowjacket suit were sent to the Quantum Realm. Now Kang can use the Yellowjacket suit for its intended purpose, control. Instead of going on a murderous rampage, like Cross or WhatIfHank, Kang could be much more patient and subtle about the changes he was making, and how it affects the timeline to something more favorable to himself. And they can (and I feel will), give Kang his "Agatha All Along" moment but on a massive scale. Like, it turns out he was reverse rattattoie-ing that rat from Endgame that let Scott out of the Quantum Realm, or hell, maybe his city is located inside a piece of shrapnel that was stuck in Iron Man or was imprisoned in Mjolnir until released by Hela. He can be tiny and travel through time, he could literally be anywhere causing anything to happen in the history of the MCU. And I can't wait to see where they are going to go with all this. And this is all just my excitement for the nerdy parts, not even getting into what they are doing as far as themes for this batch of stories especially.
This gives me life
Cross is going to be MODOC. When he got crushed and shrunk it fused him into the yellow jacket suit.
This makes me emotionally happy I’m so fucking high rn and this is all making me so fucking excited and nostalgic of the mcus history
@@cthulhu_lives8169 100%. Like, watch his 'death' scene in the first movie, he literally gets his limbs shrunk first, exactly how a Cross/MODOK could explain MODOK's frankly *wild* proportions. Plus his giant helmet in Loki's Void. Just saying, a misproportioned giant-headed Darren Cross who is missing a helmet and could therefore appear exactly like comic MODOK looks, who has a personal reason to want to antagonize Scott, Hope, and Hank.
@@samuelg2819 Glad to hear 😊 That's exactly the kind of vibes I like to spread! 💜 I hope you had an enjoyable high!
I have been waiting for someone to explain how Eternals connects to the Kang storyline
Yea, because ppl didn't like the movie they just forgot about it. They clearly will play a big role in the fight against him.
What do you think of our theory?
Is MCU Kang gonna strand the Avengers in space, turn New York in Chronopolis, or destroy Washington DC?
@@marcusyates3044 I think he will do your mom first
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I posted a comment on your last Kang Video. I think Cassie’s Quantum Satellite causes the Signal Wong sees in the 10 rings. During the same post credit scene, Captain Marvel gets an alert and leaves. In the Ms Marvel post credit scene, Kamala gets a similar signal and then swaps with Captain Marvel.
Do you think this all happens at the same time?
Cassie activates satellite, Shang finds the Signal in his post credit scene, Captain marvel leaves cause of a similar signal from the Quantum band she might have, Kamala gets her signal and swaps with Captain marvel.
I need some aspirin now. 😆
This channel is quickly becoming my favorite for this kind of theories! Way better than New Rockstars and Everything Always!
What if It wasn't Kang crashing in....and that was Hank in that scene when he went looking for her.
Amazing..these theories and Doug are why I subscribe
I appreciate the quality of these videos... Including the insertion of the ads which I find tasteful and hilarious 😊
Good stuff man. I'm definitely on board
this theory just earned you another sub, good work sir!
Yo great video. I just subscribed. Thanks for the entertaining enlightening.
This is video reminds me why I love this channel so much. Yes!!!
Another well put together video! Love this theory!
this video made me excited for what's to come.
Very good video! I enjoyed this one more than most!
This was a very enjoyable video! Great theories!
Love your videos man !
Keep killing the videos guys!
I'm glad you mentioned the pyramid, aka Rama Tut!!!
Ryan, my brother, this was indeed wild... and I loved it!
Ryan this might be your best video yet
That camera while speaking on mini kang and Mr fantastic was great! Try filming with that camera/angle/lens whatever you did do it again
This was was brain melty and enjoyable. Im excited to see how it all plays out!
This was dope !!!!
Great theories and I can’t wait for phase 5. 🙌🏼
Doug the dog is adorable ❤awesome video too Ryan. 👍🏻
Your theory sounds really good and ties a lot together.
I love this theory! 👌🏾✨
Ryan you are very good because it all makes sense. Good work.
Damn I’ve been watching all of your videos for years and this one….this one right here tops them all! Well done Ryan!
Please marvel! Show us Kang’s trophies of all the heroes he has killed
I will add another comment! Thank you. chanels like this help me enjoy the movies more even at the time when they are not in the cinema/tv yet. thanks!
You blew my mind bro
Got my sub when you peeps worked in a sceen from The Flintstones, well done
the attempted high five by doug got me to like this video, even though it’s a great watch throughout that moment got me hahaha
this was awesome
I've seriously never heard of a better theory than this right here 💯🙏🤯🤯🤯
I feel like Kang is going to make Antman break into that floating ring city to steal his teleportation tech because he can leave the quantum now that He Who Remains is dead
Great Theory's Ryan! But How Many Times Did You Say....?
Quantum?
WOW.....THANKS!!! I get it now!!!!
Hear me out, what if Deadpool and She-Hulk's 4th wall breaking powers make them immune to Kang's shenanigans?
Great theories!
I can tell you where it's leading; the Beyonder. In the comics, it was Doom who tried to steal his power. They could easily switch this to Kang, who is trying to draw the Beyonder out. It's that, or Kang inadvertently gets the Beyonder's attention, causing Secret Wars.
This is amazing.
I'd like to add one more layer and maybe tie two of your theories together. Kang's end goal isn't winning the multi universal war. That's just halfway. I think he wants to take on the celestials....and will eventually become Galactus. It's a complete longshot stretch, but would be a cool origin for Galactus.
Its possible because in the pictures he's half way to looking like Galactus. Galactus might even be one of his variants.
I think Wanda might be a secret cameo here as she was transported to this realm after Multiverse of Madness. It would fit with seeing Ant-Man being noodled in the trailer like what happened in Multiverse of Madness.
That was Brilliant
I liked the part when he said Quantum Energy
I just loke these analysis and theories better than the other million on here
With the time chair, bangle and the heart of Forever he would be able to go back to any point in time, in any (every) universe and change the past without creating new branches, only endless universes Kang has conquered
Everybodys theories are full of stuff we WANT to see and the actual movies prove y'all wrong every time
It's not Kand who creates the threshold s Rowena as soon as she said I'm in search of free will "he who remains" because she said before o
Those rings look awfully familiar
nicely done
AMAZINg Video!! the theory that blew my mind was that the Ten Rings resemble the rings of Kang's machine in the trailer!!!!
I hope you get a PHD for this. realy love your chanel. Honestly some time ago I didnt know what to expect until I ran the first video. nice
Looking forward seeing Marvel Studios Ant 🐜 man and Wasp Quatamania in Cinema 🎥
I thought the threshold being triggered was Wanda tapping into the scarlet witches powers which are directly fuelled by the multiverse, like if you watch the last ep of Loki and the last ep of Wanda vision then look at the time stamps, the moment she triggers the scarlet witch transformation the timeline breaks
I think this saga will feature the interplay between Quantum & Cosmic energy.
Maybe because of the potential link between The Celestials & Galactus. Galactus was big on The Power Cosmic.
Hey Ryan -- as an avid comic book junkie since the late 80's and a conspiracy-spinning movie-watching nerd myself, I just want to commend you for this one. They're all great, but this video is one of the best. Thanks.
...remember when Quasar got taught how to sit in the lotus position? I do.
...and do you think "He Who Remains" will have been the MCU's "Immortus?"
...and maybe think of doing an Easter egg video on Sunset Boulevard?
Yoo man this is crazy I’m understanding it this all makes sense and makes sense of heavyyyyyyy foreshadow I love it man. Maybe even greater foreshadow then the first infinity saga. I was honestly let down by phase four but if they’re gonna connect it all and now pull a team together that’s awesome. Because the avengers roster rn Suspect
1- another great video
2- awesome theories.
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im so hyped for quantumania
12:56
If they don't connect everything soon, I'm going to end up bailing out on the Marvel train. The lack of quality in Phase 4 compared to the previous saga is a huge hurdle for me.
So basically the sacred timeline was in two places, the known universe and the quantum realm. Both had a Kang running them but technically the one from Loki just tricked the other Kang to run it and then trapped him in there. So if he gets out and all the universe’s are branching out, this Kang will try to restore it to normal which would force him to fight all the good guys from other universe’s to clean it up. Wild.
Thanks for babble!
Maybe you can make a video where Doug explains everything. I suspect he knows it all already and is just playing along.
The main building in Kang’s city is a pyramid, maybe it is the Time Machine/ship and the connection to Rama-Tut/FFantastic?
The rings and the ship could be Beyonder’s tech: At the end of the film Ant man team could end stuck in the Quantum realm and shrink then send the rings and the signal through Time/Space. In Shang Chi they said it is unknown tech for them, maybe sending them was a last resort to help or warn the avengers about Kang
Always APPRECIATE a good theory, almost crushed my screen tapping on the video !
I still really want the ten rings to be sending a signal to Fin Fang Foom, however the resemblance of Kangs rings and the ten rings is hard to ignore…
12:55
You and I remember The Return of the Kind very differently
The scene where everyone is speculating that it's Scott seeing his variants be destroyed by Kang, but I think it's actually Scott after being forced into a time vortex. Probably screws with things by making everything happing at once and not at all at the same time lol
the timeline started to split after he who remains finishes his science lesson. “Stifling order or cataclysmic chaos. You may hate the dictator but something much worse will fill that void if you dispose of him.” I’m pretty sure it was those words that made Loki change his mind and not wanna kill him right away. I’m pretty sure it was that exact moment that Loki changed his mind causing them to cross through the threshold, thinking about the fear of Kang the conqueror considering he was already damn near shitting on himself when he pulled up on the nicer he who remains variant. He was probably shaken up at the thought of someone like Kang being in he who remains position and was like “hell naw” then bam they hit the threshold.