She calls it hypocrisy. I call it blatant discrimination. Not doing what you preach is hypocrisy. Treating different groups of people differently is discrimination.
usa canada uk have no shame in supporting terrorism against india its good to see white supramacist tasting their own medicine this happens when u try to be oversmart @@elizabethr4107
the head of the snake might be deeper than we think…the hypocrisy exists within a larger much more influential governing institution. We must ask that if we are seeing the water drops leaking where did the crack begin?
It's been happening because the elitists have brainwashed aka indoctrinated our children at the college level and now are working their way into lower acadameia. Liberals....ugh!
My stance is and continues to be that Claudine Gay has plenty of experience quelling the speech of students she doesn't agree with. Her answer in front of Congress should have been simple because she is fully capable of stopping this behavior. While I appreciate this former professors example of two students having a one on one conversation about the topic of genocide, that is not the kind of behavior Congress was asking Claudine Gay about and she knew it. She sat there (as did the other professors) and tried to weasel her way out of taking a strong stance against this type of hatred and speech that is intended to incite violence. YES, Calling for the genocide of anyone is abhorrent language that should come with consequences and in the context it is being used on campus (and the actions against Jewish students) shows that it falls under the unprotected speech definition given by the Supreme Court in 1973. I look forward to Congress digging deep into these colleges to root out the biased administrative policies that exist in them.
This is Definitely Plagiarism': Harvard University President Claudine Gay Copied Entire Paragraphs From Others’ Academic Work and Claimed Them as Her Own .Washington Free Beacon
The Supreme Court decisions do not apply here. Universities are private. So, they created their own code of conduct as it relates to speech on campus. And the issue is that they don't apply it uniformly; hypocrisy is pretty obvious. Bottom line, the government can't really interfere with that since none of this falls under the 1st amendment. They can, however, pull federal funding, which would be a nice step. The bigger issue is that science has been replaced by pseudosciences. The reason for all this is money. The created so many new fake science, such as gender studies, race related studies and what not. Now, they can accept much more students without requiring too many hard skills and get richer and richer from tuition.
It's mind-boggling that my 4-year-old nephew gets why condemning genocide is crucial, while the president of MIT seems to have missed that memo. Embracing the basic principles of humanity and justice, we should all stand together in rejecting such appalling rhetoric. Let's strive for a world where everyone is valued and respected, and where peace, understanding, and empathy reign supreme. It's a shame that a preschooler gets it, but MIT leaders don’t. Let’s stand with Israel, they need us ! 🇮🇱
As an MIT and Harvard alumna I completely agree with you. It is embarrassing and abhorrent behavior where there shld be definitive and lawful leadership.
Remember when earlier in the year the number of total Arab civilians that were massacred in Syria surpassed 400,000 and people across the west didn’t show outrage or mass protest because it wasn’t the Jews who did it? Pepperidge Farms remembers. Pepperidge Farms remembers that no one cared because the masterminds behind HALF A MILLION total deaths were brutal, vicious ISLAMIC groups and dictators and not those darn ‘pesky’ Jews. I say this as a fully black woman and a moderate: the left’s hypocrisy knows no bounds anymore when it comes to when it’s okay to be violent and in regard to sexual assault, terrorism or racism. We used to have simple definitions for these words that most of the globe agreed on through the 90s and even through the 2010s but now all definitions have become meaningless because people have blurred the lines to a RIDICULOUS extent. People now have to do mental gymnastics to explain to you why it was okay to slaughter innocent Israeli children. This country is doomed if we can’t define things anymore. I even have people telling me (starting from about 5 years ago or so) that I can’t be racist now because I’m black. What kind of nonsense is this? So I can go around harassing white people for being born white? Call them cr*ckers as they walk by? I can do that, right?…Since my people have had a history of oppression here? I get a pass like Hamas, right? How far do these blurred lines go? Can I steal from stores if it is owned by white people? Can I k*ll innocent white families and kids due to my oppression? Where do you psychopaths draw the line? You see the problem with stretching the definitions of racism, genocide and terrorism to include oppression or past “colonization”? This needs to stop.
@StefunnyStrange yeah I also think all this started going off the edge about 5 years ago. Was it mlk jr who said not by the color of my skin? Seems the Woke ppl (who aren't liberal tbh) would've canceled him because he's "colorblind". Colorblindness = equality!
Actually began at least 20 years ago, but it was subtle. There was little pushback and slowly escalated until what we have now is utter chaos with definitions, logic, and common sense also out the window. @@skaaaaaaa
You actually can go around disparaging whites if you want and it won't be considered racist or anything. Our own government listed white males as the biggest threat to our nation. Hell, that black guy who messed with that ladies dog and then turned the camera on to catch her freaking out was practically given an award, in spite of the fact that he admitted he messes with people's dogs to freak them out. There's a video of a black woman demanding an apology from a white woman for brushing against her daughter, even going so far as to stand behind their vehicle so they couldn't leave, in spite of the fact that she did apologize. But once the pregnant white woman pulled a gun on the lady, suddenly it was the white lady fault. Imagine a white woman demanding an apology from a black woman, getting the apology and then crying victim when they wouldn't quit screwing with the black woman. Black people, especially women, are in the same position that fragile Jim crow white women were. They can do no wrong.
To answer like this in front of congress shows that they feel nothing will be done to them. That people calling for genocide is ok…so long as it’s Jews…and the student mob that do it are pandered to. This attitude will get Jews attacked. Context should never be an excuse for calls for genocide. Anybody saying this should be sacked immediately.
I agree Gay should be fired, but she is not a lone wolf. The academic rot in this country and culture is the problem. It's crazy, weird and insanely ironic that universities first off take an exorbitant amount of money to "educate" (really indoctrinate) your teen, radicalize them and then unleash these useful idiots on the rest of society. Right out of the Marxist playbook. Thanks, Harvard! Now do the right thing and get rid of Gay.
@@johnnyfive9815 Right...woke will always be around as long as there are irresponsible whinners looking to blame SOMEONE for their misery. Maybe if we could just push it back in the closet of academia...
Another context person. Here's the context a large group of students yelling chants that express genocide. Unacceptable. Any group of students publicly calling for genocide of any group should be expelled. No brainer.
These women just refuse to get it… She’s still doubling down and saying it needs context? She’s saying it should be allowed for students to tell each other that Jews should be genocided?? Yes they should be suspended. They should be expelled. What are we talking about?
In a question of free speech, the context does matter. What’s disingenuous is that enough context was given in the question to clearly answer. “Is CALLING for the genocide of Jews a violation”. The answer is yes. The question was not is discussing or privately supporting genocide a violation of the policy. Instead of Jews, let’s substitute a person. Is discussing, or even expressing agreement with the killing a person covered under free speech? Probably, depending on the context. Is CALLING for a person to be killed? No. That is incitement of violence or intimidation / harassment.
When the three university presidents kept trying to weasel their way out of culpability by saying "It depends on the context," Elise Stefanik and others should have responded: "Okay, no problem. Let's use the context in which the calls for genocide have recently been made on your campus. Do those calls violate your university's code of conduct, yes or no?"
@@P.90.603you do realize stefaniks question wasn't about specific chants (like river to the sea, which I do think is likely genocidal) it was "are calls for genocide of jews against the policies?" To which they basically answered "in some contexts, no". So, while I could point u to specific chants, do u understand that's not necessary here?
She defending Gay…she’s making sure future job prospects are not jeopardized…she e walking the middle of the road even tho she was the object of scorn by Gay she still wants to be her friend…”all three have a tough job”…really?
@@BxChef.207 When you drink the Kool Aid, it is almost impossible to not keep downing each additional cup that you are handed and ordered to chug... In fact, they hate those who initially drink it and then eventually realize what they are actually doing and refuse to go along any more MUCH worse than they hate those of us who never gave into their insanity in the first place. Look at the way thay treated those who initially happily went along with the Miracle HooDoo Jabs, then "shockingly" got sick or disabled from them, and then went public with their stories like Eric Clapton did. They were much more ruthless towards him than they were those of us who held our ground and never got the shots in the first place like Novac Djokovic or Nicki Minaj who didn't lose almost any fanbase after a short initial Woke cancellation attempts quickly fizzled out...
Yep she still says it does need context and it’s totally fine for two students to be telling each other that they agree with a genocide for JUICE*. And then it’s questionable if they should even be suspended for that. Unreal.
Those 3 university presidents are very intelligent. Their answers were not signs of stupidity nor ignorance. Either they are just 💩 scared OR they are EVIL. It's that simple..😢
They’re both. Scared and evil. Scared of what the terrorist thugs will do to their campuses if they don’t pander to them. Evil because pandering will ensure they hang onto power by pandering to a new victim group of supporters.
If it's about calling for intifada or genocide etc. Than it's nothing to do with context. It's very obvious that these people haven't common sense at all. Astonishing.
3:08 Unbelievable. How is that acceptable behavior in ANY context? There is NO, let me repeat this, ABSOLUTELY NO acceptable context for ever expressing approval or calling for the genocide of any one group.
Harvard...bastion of academic integrity and achievement, and yet the intelligentsia are struggling to come to an understanding of 7th grade anatomy and gender roles. What geniuses!
Calls for violence against a group of people must be coming from very SICK individuals. This attitude could change when these sick individuals become the objects of violence. Filipino-American watching in Virginia, USA.
There is "free speech" on University Campuses. The speech that the University will allow you to speak. Liberals love free speech, what it is will be determined by unseen other liberals. Cowardice run deep in liberalism. Do you notice, nobody in the liberal side shows their face when they remove your free speech. The one US Senator asked the Harvard President about whom determines acceptable free speech on her Campus. She (President) refused to answer the question. But here is the kicker, those same people whom determine "free speech" on Campus, are the same people whom will boot you off campus because of your "free speech". We have all seen how Universities deal with "conservative leaning speakers" wanting to do a speech on a University Campus. If you are a Ben Shapiro, you are closed down in a heart beat. If you are a Michael Knowles, you are shut down in a heart beat. If you are Dennis Prager, again. Shut down. But if you are that Kendi fella spouting off racist diatribes about White people. You are applauded. Same goes for Pro-Hamas Muslim Brotherhood speakers. Lord have mercy Universities are a strange lot. If its counter culture, and warped. Yup, a University President is all for it. Especially if its Anti American, or anti western civilization government.
Class action lawsuits against all corrupt academic institutions is an answer. Follow the money(s). Laws should ban contributions to academic institutions by NON-AMERICAN entities.
every moral person should take a minute to consider this; idf warns before attacking- ha.mas does not israel allows red cross to visit- h,amas does not ha,mas took babies hostage- israel does not pro palestine protests are chaotic and disruptive- pro israel protests are peaceful
@@asaojohnston8235: Do you feel you’re a strong man? There are like 2 million strong men in prison and the number grows. If that’s the best you can do, call your opponent ‘emotional’, you don’t have much of an argument? I’m not sure it is an argument. . .whether someone is emotional or not has little to do with whether they are right or wrong? How many men must be in prison, anyway, to sate your taste? Perhaps some reader will feel you’ve made a strong case and imitate you. Anyway, I think you are going entirely in the wrong direction. I don’t think I understand your response to the left. To make this a gender issue, whatever women girls are doing, boys and men should take heed and frankly, emulate them. All I see in you comment is a doubling down, and attempt to promote and emulate failure. Maybe I’m making too much of it, but I certainly know that my feelings are important! Or at least I’d like to live in a world where they are.
Stating that there are 2 biological sexes requires exile, but calling for Jewish genocide is protected and nuanced. Can someone pleas explain how they’re supposed to be the “socially conscious” group?
Learning in a climate of fear ( fear of abuse as a jew or supporter of jews/Israel and fear of enforcing rules as an educator or administrator) is the last thing i expected from the " best" schools in the most " free" country in the world.
They were all afraid to answer because then they'd have to explain why no disciplinary action was taken against the large and frightening Pro Hamas demonstrations on their campuses. These women are not just hypocrites, they are moral cowards.
As a outsider, a Brit if you must know, I thought when I saw the video title "Oh here we go....another one of those vile types" when in fact she wasn't. It's Harvard being fucking stupid and letting kids calling for the murder of a group of people.
They keep on talking about context. So, in what context is it okay to call for the genocide of the Jewish people and in what context is it not okay to call for the genocide of the Jewish people? To say it depends on the context, is a very slippery slope. Following on from this, when is it okay to call for the genocide of the LGBTQ community and when is it not!
It is if the one being threatened is not a politically correct 'identity politics' individual or group. Free speech thus negates the moral repugnance of the threat. Threats against politically correct 'identity politics' individuals or groups are morally repugnant and free speech is thus equally repugnant. Slaves to ideology always have an ideologically bent moral compass.
It is, if brown people are doing the threatening. Let a few dozen white separatists show up with nahtsee flags and Palestine flags and the whole protest would be shut down in seconds.
There is a blatant double standard and hypocricy. People are getting sick and tired of it. I used to be a tolerant person, but when it comes to this BS, NO MORE. I'm firmly standing my ground.
“Free speech” ABSOLUTELY should be in question!!!! It is “free” for some and not for others!!!! Is it regarded as “free speech” even when it when it hateful, inciting and disgustingly one-sided??????
Condemning people for being able to see both sides of an issue only serves to promote extremism. Few things are black and white, if a stance cannot withstand acknowledgement of valid opposing points, then it is weak. Choosing a side or "team" and closing your mind to any other viewpoints gets us nowhere. Acknowledging valid opposing viewpoints encourages those opposed to do the same, a path to solutions can be forged on common ground. The fact that i can be pro-Israel and still question their methods is healthy. Being moderate, sensible and open minded only angers extremists.
Jesus said that the truth will set us free. The truth is that gender is assigned to us at our birth. We are either male or female God has made us such. That a male person can never bear children speaks of this truth. Surgery can never make a male person conceive. There is nothing offensive about the truth. May God bless us all in these times of so much confusion.
That doesn't change the fact that Transgender people have always existed. Up until the 12th week of gestatino, all foetuses are female. Then hormonal influences change some to male. However, in some cases that does not change the brain pattern. So boys are born with girl brains, and vice versa. Studies using MRI scans have proven this. The ability to reproduce is irrelevant. Doctors assign gender at birth but that doesn't mean they are infallible. Doctors make mistakes that kill people every day. ps..Jesus never said a word about Transpeople but he did say " Treats others as you would have them treat you" . Try to live up to that morality.
Transgender people deserve our compassion. They, however, need deliverance from spirit of homosexuality. God did not make a mistake in saying in the Bible that He created them male and female. Praying for the lost souls. God loves the sinners but not the sins.
You are in AMERICA, remember? Bring back the GOSPEL, you are right, it would be a timely action. The Koran and Torah will remain where they are supposed to be@user-pg4jg5eh8k
Looks like Harvard has decided to stand behind Claudine Gay in this situation but was more than ready to let Dr Hooven go for saying there are only 2 biological sexes ?? this is pure discrimination and someone needs to hold Harvard accountable..
It is clear that our world is going through periodic waves of total insanity of large groups of people, a good example are the woke people and Trump supporters.
I found it interesting that recently a study was done on Lycanthropy. So if you identify as a wolf, which is closely related to other "misidentifications", you're mentally ill.
Anything you want to say is all good unless you misgender or use the wrong pronouns or, God forbid, question the race narrative. Then it's cancel city baby! Good luck in that career afterward! It's all context until it isn't, and the new orthodoxy isn't context
I DO NOT agree with trans BS BUT I will still treat them with respect and love like i do others Does that make me TRANSPHOBIC??? thankful im not a public figure and NEVER will BE
The worst part of all this is that people will remember. Being a grad from an elite University is now akin to not finding a job anywhere! My boss just rejected two candidates from two of those universities because Texas is becoming multicultural as other states, and he did not want to deal with racist or strongly opinionated people in the workplace.
Wow, its mind boggling that Harvard is so highly ranked by making thinking unlawful! In that case, why not make studying unlawful? That should further improve her ranking!
😢when issues are so absurd & obviously anti Semitic in nature , yet satan speaks through America's youth. 😢 its very bad no adults can figure it out or even conclude right from wrong. Pitiful are the people & youth of America. Heading toward hell states sorrow in america. Pathetic.
She finally stepped down after being leech 💃🏻Now we shouldn't let her spin it as racism. UPenn's Magill didn't have any defense, Dr Hooven didn't get any defense. There's a huge social expectation on us non-black women to always defend them and never say anything against them. Dr.Hooven had to tip-toe and justify Claudine G till she was asked about her own case. CGay or any other administrator never stood up for Dr.Hooven. They're worse than the patriarchy, because we can't even speak up openly against them.The HYPOCRISY is SICKENING. LADIES WAKE UP!!!
I don’t remember that at birth the children looked transgender or any kind of animal. They are always male or female. So we seem to be really in Andersen's fairy tale about the naked king
It all depends on the context, especially when one is creating it by turning blind eye on calls directed against particular ethnicity for exemple. May I remind you that some journalists and writers were condemned in France to a firing squad in 1945 precisely for creating a context in which deportations into death camps became possible within hostile or indifferent population
I disagree with the statement hypocrisy is the issue -- it's a sick culture on that campus. Wokeness is a religion, and they're often behaving like cult members.
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She calls it hypocrisy. I call it blatant discrimination.
Not doing what you preach is hypocrisy.
Treating different groups of people differently is discrimination.
Hear hear!
usa canada uk have no shame in supporting terrorism against india its good to see white supramacist tasting their own medicine this happens when u try to be oversmart @@elizabethr4107
Well it is both of them. They rank last of freedom of speech yet can’t condone the mass killing of jews.
the head of the snake might be deeper than we think…the hypocrisy exists within a larger much more influential governing institution. We must ask that if we are seeing the water drops leaking where did the crack begin?
I understand that words are hard, but one does not preclude the other.....
It is unfortunate that
academia has begun to sound like politicians.
Begun? It's been that way since 2012.
No free speech, no science. In other words, Ivy League is a scam that enslaves young people.
It's been happening because the elitists have brainwashed aka indoctrinated our children at the college level and now are working their way into lower acadameia. Liberals....ugh!
keep speaking about this, people need to wake up to it. @@DonHG32
@@DonHG32the roots have been there longer than that
My stance is and continues to be that Claudine Gay has plenty of experience quelling the speech of students she doesn't agree with. Her answer in front of Congress should have been simple because she is fully capable of stopping this behavior. While I appreciate this former professors example of two students having a one on one conversation about the topic of genocide, that is not the kind of behavior Congress was asking Claudine Gay about and she knew it. She sat there (as did the other professors) and tried to weasel her way out of taking a strong stance against this type of hatred and speech that is intended to incite violence. YES, Calling for the genocide of anyone is abhorrent language that should come with consequences and in the context it is being used on campus (and the actions against Jewish students) shows that it falls under the unprotected speech definition given by the Supreme Court in 1973. I look forward to Congress digging deep into these colleges to root out the biased administrative policies that exist in them.
Dr. Gay didn't say it was unacceptable, because her view on Jews is 100% aligned with the late Mr. Eichman's. Simple as that.
This is Definitely Plagiarism': Harvard University President Claudine Gay Copied Entire Paragraphs From Others’ Academic Work and Claimed Them as Her Own .Washington Free Beacon
The Supreme Court decisions do not apply here. Universities are private. So, they created their own code of conduct as it relates to speech on campus. And the issue is that they don't apply it uniformly; hypocrisy is pretty obvious. Bottom line, the government can't really interfere with that since none of this falls under the 1st amendment. They can, however, pull federal funding, which would be a nice step.
The bigger issue is that science has been replaced by pseudosciences. The reason for all this is money. The created so many new fake science, such as gender studies, race related studies and what not. Now, they can accept much more students without requiring too many hard skills and get richer and richer from tuition.
@@HappyHalBallardIt SHOULD be unacceptable. Fuq Harvard.
It's very clear these Woke Nazis have completely taken over the Universities.
RIP Woke Tyranny - 2013-2023. Won't miss you. Maybe we can finally do science and truth-seeking again at universities.
Bring back real journalism that is based on facts & not feelings & agendas!
All woke ideology must be banned from universities and replaced with the centuries old pursuit of excellence and innovation
It’s not going away without a fight. This is far from over. It’s early 20th century radicalism repeating itself.
@user-pg4jg5eh8k Man I hope so...but it ain't going quietly.
Bitching, whining and crying is their battle cry. It will be noisy but necessary.
Regrettably, I don't think it's over. I think the battle is just about to begin.
It's mind-boggling that my 4-year-old nephew gets why condemning genocide is crucial, while the president of MIT seems to have missed that memo. Embracing the basic principles of humanity and justice, we should all stand together in rejecting such appalling rhetoric. Let's strive for a world where everyone is valued and respected, and where peace, understanding, and empathy reign supreme. It's a shame that a preschooler gets it, but MIT leaders don’t. Let’s stand with Israel, they need us ! 🇮🇱
As an MIT and Harvard alumna I completely agree with you. It is embarrassing and abhorrent behavior where there shld be definitive and lawful leadership.
Oy vey!
well, kids are stupid and have a very limited understanding of the world. Kind of why we don't let them vote or make life altering decisions.
Apparently no one from Harvard can give a simple, straight answer.
they consider themselves intellectuals. No such thing as a simple answer.
That is why we have quit hiring them, among other things
Honesty and straight answers are hate speech, especially for protected classes or people. Nothing Marxist about this at all
I am just curious why Harvard, of all places, is not able to articulate the difference between protected speech and a credible threat.
Remember when earlier in the year the number of total Arab civilians that were massacred in Syria surpassed 400,000 and people across the west didn’t show outrage or mass protest because it wasn’t the Jews who did it? Pepperidge Farms remembers. Pepperidge Farms remembers that no one cared because the masterminds behind HALF A MILLION total deaths were brutal, vicious ISLAMIC groups and dictators and not those darn ‘pesky’ Jews.
I say this as a fully black woman and a moderate: the left’s hypocrisy knows no bounds anymore when it comes to when it’s okay to be violent and in regard to sexual assault, terrorism or racism. We used to have simple definitions for these words that most of the globe agreed on through the 90s and even through the 2010s but now all definitions have become meaningless because people have blurred the lines to a RIDICULOUS extent. People now have to do mental gymnastics to explain to you why it was okay to slaughter innocent Israeli children. This country is doomed if we can’t define things anymore. I even have people telling me (starting from about 5 years ago or so) that I can’t be racist now because I’m black. What kind of nonsense is this?
So I can go around harassing white people for being born white? Call them cr*ckers as they walk by? I can do that, right?…Since my people have had a history of oppression here? I get a pass like Hamas, right? How far do these blurred lines go? Can I steal from stores if it is owned by white people? Can I k*ll innocent white families and kids due to my oppression? Where do you psychopaths draw the line? You see the problem with stretching the definitions of racism, genocide and terrorism to include oppression or past “colonization”? This needs to stop.
@StefunnyStrange yeah I also think all this started going off the edge about 5 years ago. Was it mlk jr who said not by the color of my skin? Seems the Woke ppl (who aren't liberal tbh) would've canceled him because he's "colorblind". Colorblindness = equality!
Pepperidge Farms remembers.....love it.😂
Excellent - surprised you don't have more responses!
Actually began at least 20 years ago, but it was subtle. There was little pushback and slowly escalated until what we have now is utter chaos with definitions, logic, and common sense also out the window. @@skaaaaaaa
You actually can go around disparaging whites if you want and it won't be considered racist or anything. Our own government listed white males as the biggest threat to our nation. Hell, that black guy who messed with that ladies dog and then turned the camera on to catch her freaking out was practically given an award, in spite of the fact that he admitted he messes with people's dogs to freak them out. There's a video of a black woman demanding an apology from a white woman for brushing against her daughter, even going so far as to stand behind their vehicle so they couldn't leave, in spite of the fact that she did apologize. But once the pregnant white woman pulled a gun on the lady, suddenly it was the white lady fault. Imagine a white woman demanding an apology from a black woman, getting the apology and then crying victim when they wouldn't quit screwing with the black woman. Black people, especially women, are in the same position that fragile Jim crow white women were. They can do no wrong.
To answer like this in front of congress shows that they feel nothing will be done to them. That people calling for genocide is ok…so long as it’s Jews…and the student mob that do it are pandered to. This attitude will get Jews attacked. Context should never be an excuse for calls for genocide. Anybody saying this should be sacked immediately.
Yeap. And they did it with a smile
Agree- and what about teh students who chanted it...Aren't they to be reprimanded? What a disgrace!
Fire her already! She’s destroying the finest university in the world. Unreal.
Hardly the finest. Cambridge and Oxford have existed for far, far longer than even the USA!
I agree Gay should be fired, but she is not a lone wolf. The academic rot in this country and culture is the problem.
It's crazy, weird and insanely ironic that universities first off take an exorbitant amount of money to "educate" (really indoctrinate) your teen, radicalize them and then unleash these useful idiots on
the rest of society.
Right out of the Marxist playbook.
Thanks, Harvard!
Now do the right thing and get rid of Gay.
To get rid of the ideology you might have to get rid of all the African-American studies faculty and DEI programs
She already resigned yesterday.
@@johnnyfive9815 Right...woke will always be around as long as there are irresponsible whinners
looking to blame SOMEONE for their misery.
Maybe if we could just push it back in the closet of academia...
Another context person. Here's the context a large group of students yelling chants that express genocide. Unacceptable. Any group of students publicly calling for genocide of any group should be expelled. No brainer.
These women just refuse to get it… She’s still doubling down and saying it needs context? She’s saying it should be allowed for students to tell each other that Jews should be genocided?? Yes they should be suspended. They should be expelled. What are we talking about?
I don't know what goes on in college campuses these days so may I ask how the students and faculty are "calling for genocide".
In a question of free speech, the context does matter. What’s disingenuous is that enough context was given in the question to clearly answer. “Is CALLING for the genocide of Jews a violation”. The answer is yes.
The question was not is discussing or privately supporting genocide a violation of the policy.
Instead of Jews, let’s substitute a person. Is discussing, or even expressing agreement with the killing a person covered under free speech? Probably, depending on the context. Is CALLING for a person to be killed? No. That is incitement of violence or intimidation / harassment.
@MuMill24
Good point. The context was clear. I large group of students chanting publicly for genocide.
@@MuMill24 well said
When the three university presidents kept trying to weasel their way out of culpability by saying "It depends on the context," Elise Stefanik and others should have responded: "Okay, no problem. Let's use the context in which the calls for genocide have recently been made on your campus. Do those calls violate your university's code of conduct, yes or no?"
They would have denied that it happened.
The head of Harvard's soon to be published new book "Mein Context"
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@@P.90.603you do realize stefaniks question wasn't about specific chants (like river to the sea, which I do think is likely genocidal) it was "are calls for genocide of jews against the policies?" To which they basically answered "in some contexts, no". So, while I could point u to specific chants, do u understand that's not necessary here?
😂😂😂
Great burn, John Smith! Thanks for the laugh!
She defending Gay…she’s making sure future job prospects are not jeopardized…she e walking the middle of the road even tho she was the object of scorn by Gay she still wants to be her friend…”all three have a tough job”…really?
Gay has been President of Harvard since July 2023. Do you want her held accountable for things that happened before than?
This woman couldn’t even condemn it herself.
Yup, I noticed this as well. These people are in deep.
@@BxChef.207 When you drink the Kool Aid, it is almost impossible to not keep downing each additional cup that you are handed and ordered to chug...
In fact, they hate those who initially drink it and then eventually realize what they are actually doing and refuse to go along any more MUCH worse than they hate those of us who never gave into their insanity in the first place.
Look at the way thay treated those who initially happily went along with the Miracle HooDoo Jabs, then "shockingly" got sick or disabled from them, and then went public with their stories like Eric Clapton did. They were much more ruthless towards him than they were those of us who held our ground and never got the shots in the first place like Novac Djokovic or Nicki Minaj who didn't lose almost any fanbase after a short initial Woke cancellation attempts quickly fizzled out...
You can't condemn free speech but I will agree she's reluctant because she probably teaches in another college.
Yep she still says it does need context and it’s totally fine for two students to be telling each other that they agree with a genocide for JUICE*. And then it’s questionable if they should even be suspended for that. Unreal.
@@johnnyfive9815 free speech is irrelevant here, Harvard is a private school that bans speech all the time.
Those 3 university presidents are very intelligent. Their answers were not signs of stupidity nor ignorance. Either they are just 💩 scared OR they are EVIL. It's that simple..😢
There's alot of educated idiots in the world.
Intelligent,and can’t distinguish the difference between right and wrong ? No they very much believed in what they were saying.
They’re both. Scared and evil. Scared of what the terrorist thugs will do to their campuses if they don’t pander to them. Evil because pandering will ensure they hang onto power by pandering to a new victim group of supporters.
intelligence is a wrong choice of word here, incompetent, deceptive, and conniving are more appropriate
Gay will get a pay raise. How can't you see this is going as planned.
If it's about calling for intifada or genocide etc. Than it's nothing to do with context. It's very obvious that these people haven't common sense at all. Astonishing.
The woke movement was never something that was admirable.
@@P.90.603 Calm down Timmy, go to sleep
YOu can't even say what "woke" is supposed to be, so try not to waste your time with trumpian garbage. Ok?
3:08 Unbelievable. How is that acceptable behavior in ANY context? There is NO, let me repeat this, ABSOLUTELY NO acceptable context for ever expressing approval or calling for the genocide of any one group.
I totally agree.
Women are the worst. They need to get out of politics. Their bleeding hearts don’t allow them to have common sense on issues.
You sure? I mean MAGA are a group..../s
Yes, it is clear, HATE MUST BE CALLED OUT AND THOSE WHO HATE MUST BE SHAMED AND EDUCATED.
Shamed and educated. Perhaps you should shame me?
But hold the re-education camps...
that's a tool of the woke mob.
If people want to sit in their conceited idiocy...let them!
By your comment, you are professing hate and adding to the problem.
But, a non elected powerful minority ( the jewish community) is abusing of its huge power...Democracy is under threat...
@@dennismorris7573: I don’t feel shamed? Hate heals.
OMG she said there are 2 biological sexes! How dare you!
The woke movement? More like insane movement.
Yay!..and I thought Americans didn't get sarcasm !!
And I would think, they can also differentiate between freedom of speech and science in Harvard.
Harvard...bastion of academic integrity and achievement,
and yet the intelligentsia are struggling to come to an understanding of
7th grade anatomy and gender roles.
What geniuses!
😃👍🏻
For the the People who Cancel, one Day they May be the Cancelled
Calls for violence against a group of people must be coming from very SICK individuals. This attitude could change when these sick individuals become the objects of violence. Filipino-American watching in Virginia, USA.
She is correct. Two sexes - male and female. They forcrd her out for speaking thr truth.
There is "free speech" on University Campuses. The speech that the University will allow you to speak.
Liberals love free speech, what it is will be determined by unseen other liberals. Cowardice run deep in liberalism. Do you notice, nobody in the liberal side shows their face when they remove your free speech.
The one US Senator asked the Harvard President about whom determines acceptable free speech on her Campus. She (President) refused to answer the question. But here is the kicker, those same people whom determine "free speech" on Campus, are the same people whom will boot you off campus because of your "free speech".
We have all seen how Universities deal with "conservative leaning speakers" wanting to do a speech on a University Campus. If you are a Ben Shapiro, you are closed down in a heart beat. If you are a Michael Knowles, you are shut down in a heart beat. If you are Dennis Prager, again. Shut down.
But if you are that Kendi fella spouting off racist diatribes about White people. You are applauded. Same goes for Pro-Hamas Muslim Brotherhood speakers.
Lord have mercy Universities are a strange lot. If its counter culture, and warped. Yup, a University President is all for it. Especially if its Anti American, or anti western civilization government.
Free speech is not an excuse for people who call for genocide! It's not ok
Harvard's prestige is now dying, that is epic
The student who cancelled professor Hooven should be punished but won't be. The administration should be punished too.
Class action lawsuits against all corrupt academic institutions is an answer. Follow the money(s). Laws should ban contributions to academic institutions by NON-AMERICAN entities.
every moral person should take a minute to consider this;
idf warns before attacking- ha.mas does not
israel allows red cross to visit- h,amas does not
ha,mas took babies hostage- israel does not
pro palestine protests are chaotic and disruptive- pro israel protests are peaceful
Bidook! Aval, yesh arbay anasheem bey ha asot abrit sh'soneem autanu. Chem lo achfot al emet. Terrible.
@@anthonydavid5121 Speak English on an English/American site if you want to be taken seriously.
Go back to Germany
@@anthonydavid5121 trust in Hashem and do hishtadlus. am Yisrael chai
She has to get out of Harvard.
Africans never have to go.
DEI means her job is cast in concrete, apparently. Its anything goes! But her of course
There needs to be strong men to take charge and clean up these messes that have been created by woke emotionalism.
Your statements seems strange to me.
Why is it strange
@@asaojohnston8235: Do you feel you’re a strong man? There are like 2 million strong men in prison and the number grows. If that’s the best you can do, call your opponent ‘emotional’, you don’t have much of an argument? I’m not sure it is an argument. . .whether someone is emotional or not has little to do with whether they are right or wrong? How many men must be in prison, anyway, to sate your taste? Perhaps some reader will feel you’ve made a strong case and imitate you. Anyway, I think you are going entirely in the wrong direction. I don’t think I understand your response to the left. To make this a gender issue, whatever women girls are doing, boys and men should take heed and frankly, emulate them. All I see in you comment is a doubling down, and attempt to promote and emulate failure. Maybe I’m making too much of it, but I certainly know that my feelings are important! Or at least I’d like to live in a world where they are.
Why strong men? Why not just strong people?
Havard : Free speech for ME but not for THEE!!
Stating that there are 2 biological sexes requires exile, but calling for Jewish genocide is protected and nuanced. Can someone pleas explain how they’re supposed to be the “socially conscious” group?
Learning in a climate of fear ( fear of abuse as a jew or supporter of jews/Israel and fear of enforcing rules as an educator or administrator) is the last thing i expected from the " best" schools in the most " free" country in the world.
They were all afraid to answer because then they'd have to explain why no disciplinary action was taken against the large and frightening Pro Hamas demonstrations on their campuses. These women are not just hypocrites, they are moral cowards.
Qatar contributes huge sums of money to Harvard...and Hamas.
Free Palestine from Islam
Unbelievable..no more public funds to Harvard.
If they have any MORAL VALUE they shall Resign. They need to go.
Considering what happened to this lady, she is being too kind and accepting of the horrible and hypocritical treatment she received at Harvard.
As a outsider, a Brit if you must know, I thought when I saw the video title
"Oh here we go....another one of those vile types" when in fact she wasn't. It's Harvard being fucking stupid and letting kids calling for the murder of a group of people.
Fire Gay, Harvard.
They keep on talking about context. So, in what context is it okay to call for the genocide of the Jewish people and in what context is it not okay to call for the genocide of the Jewish people? To say it depends on the context, is a very slippery slope. Following on from this, when is it okay to call for the genocide of the LGBTQ community and when is it not!
THREATENING someone is FREE SPEECH ?
It is if the one being threatened is not a politically correct 'identity politics' individual or group. Free speech thus negates the moral repugnance of the threat.
Threats against politically correct 'identity politics' individuals or groups are morally repugnant and free speech is thus equally repugnant.
Slaves to ideology always have an ideologically bent moral compass.
@@P.90.603you can find a Harvard on Google maps
@@P.90.603 Do some research... it's called the internet.
@@P.90.603 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It is, if brown people are doing the threatening. Let a few dozen white separatists show up with nahtsee flags and Palestine flags and the whole protest would be shut down in seconds.
Shame on Harvard!
There is a blatant double standard and hypocricy. People are getting sick and tired of it. I used to be a tolerant person, but when it comes to this BS, NO MORE. I'm firmly standing my ground.
Gay supports free speech as long as you don't give you view. Fire her, don't allow her to resign. She's dragged Harvard into the gutter.
Unfortunate, come on, hate is dangerous, both for those who hate and those who are hated.
What sort of a society do you want to live in?????
“Free speech” ABSOLUTELY should be in question!!!! It is “free” for some and not for others!!!! Is it regarded as “free speech” even when it when it hateful, inciting and disgustingly one-sided??????
the context....
the context...
This guest was a buzz kill... I'm sick of people straddling both sides of the fence.
I agree. Even after she was cancelled.
What a PUSSY
I agree.
Condemning people for being able to see both sides of an issue only serves to promote extremism. Few things are black and white, if a stance cannot withstand acknowledgement of valid opposing points, then it is weak. Choosing a side or "team" and closing your mind to any other viewpoints gets us nowhere. Acknowledging valid opposing viewpoints encourages those opposed to do the same, a path to solutions can be forged on common ground.
The fact that i can be pro-Israel and still question their methods is healthy. Being moderate, sensible and open minded only angers extremists.
@@furryhoof647 not a valid opposing view point, simpleton.
True. Her beginning statement went along with the insanity
Jesus said that the truth will set us free. The truth is that gender is assigned to us at our birth. We are either male or female God has made us such. That a male person can never bear children speaks of this truth. Surgery can never make a male person conceive. There is nothing offensive about the truth. May God bless us all in these times of so much confusion.
People who embrace gender fluidity hate the fact that they have a Creator and the way
He has made them.
That doesn't change the fact that Transgender people have always existed. Up until the 12th week of gestatino, all foetuses are female. Then hormonal influences change some to male. However, in some cases that does not change the brain pattern. So boys are born with girl brains, and vice versa. Studies using MRI scans have proven this. The ability to reproduce is irrelevant. Doctors assign gender at birth but that doesn't mean they are infallible. Doctors make mistakes that kill people every day. ps..Jesus never said a word about Transpeople but he did say " Treats others as you would have them treat you" . Try to live up to that morality.
Transgender people deserve our compassion. They, however, need deliverance from spirit of homosexuality. God did not make a mistake in saying in the Bible that He created them male and female. Praying for the lost souls. God loves the sinners but not the sins.
Facts don't care about your feelings. 😂 Harvard Woke University
These universities are no place to send our children to.
USA better return the Gospel to its schools. I miss the old USA, with conservative people.
You are in AMERICA, remember?
Bring back the GOSPEL, you are right, it would be a timely action.
The Koran and Torah will remain where they are supposed to be@user-pg4jg5eh8k
Conclusion? Boycott ALL graduates of the Ivy League Schools.
Indeed. Ivy League in your resume has become a black mark for woke indoctrination. No place for that in the workplace
What would be Harvard's response if KKK set up on Campus and called for the return of Slavery? Granteed the action would have been swift.
This Prof. wàsnt expressing Her VIEWS, SHE WAS STATING THE SCIENCE, Biology and Pathology of the subject.
Harvard is an intellectual gulag.
Looks like Harvard has decided to stand behind Claudine Gay in this situation but was more than ready to let Dr Hooven go for saying there are only 2 biological sexes ?? this is pure discrimination and someone needs to hold Harvard accountable..
"Calling" for... is Actively Encouraging people to "Act"
Is my English so bad or she just defended the director?!
The American middle classes just don’t take things seriously enough.
As usual, with bullies, we stop speech we don't like but allow speech we like.
It is clear that our world is going through periodic waves of total insanity of large groups of people, a good example are the woke people and Trump supporters.
This has been going on for some time now.
dont send your kids to harvard if you wish them to be independent thinkers
Thanks for showing the truth about Gay and free speech at Harvard. It’s Orwellian.
This woman is just trying to keep her job. Too cowardly to speak the obvious here.
The obvious being ... ?
We don’t want a reduction of free speech. We just want the same rules to apply to everyone.
The world has gone nuts and we know who the nuts are.
I think one reason Harvard moved to a Hamas and Hezbolah friendly group, is because of the money, coming from islamistic states, such as Qazar.
I found it interesting that recently a study was done on Lycanthropy.
So if you identify as a wolf, which is closely related to other "misidentifications", you're mentally ill.
Free speech for me, not for thee - Harvard faculty and president
Anything you want to say is all good unless you misgender or use the wrong pronouns or, God forbid, question the race narrative. Then it's cancel city baby! Good luck in that career afterward! It's all context until it isn't, and the new orthodoxy isn't context
I DO NOT agree with trans BS BUT I will still treat them with respect and love like i do others Does that make me TRANSPHOBIC??? thankful im not a public figure and NEVER will BE
Ohhh,hypocrites could be found anywhere else in the world...
But engaging on gynocides of JEWS is heinous and must be taken action NOW💪..❤💪
Cancel culture at its finest. 😢
The worst part of all this is that people will remember. Being a grad from an elite University is now akin to not finding a job anywhere! My boss just rejected two candidates from two of those universities because Texas is becoming multicultural as other states, and he did not want to deal with racist or strongly opinionated people in the workplace.
Wow, its mind boggling that Harvard is so highly ranked by making thinking unlawful! In that case, why not make studying unlawful? That should further improve her ranking!
😢when issues are so absurd & obviously anti Semitic in nature , yet satan speaks through America's youth. 😢 its very bad no adults can figure it out or even conclude right from wrong. Pitiful are the people & youth of America. Heading toward hell states sorrow in america. Pathetic.
Gay learned hating Jews in Saidia Arabia, where she spent her childhood. Everything else is just a "noise".
She finally stepped down after being leech 💃🏻Now we shouldn't let her spin it as racism. UPenn's Magill didn't have any defense, Dr Hooven didn't get any defense. There's a huge social expectation on us non-black women to always defend them and never say anything against them. Dr.Hooven had to tip-toe and justify Claudine G till she was asked about her own case. CGay or any other administrator never stood up for Dr.Hooven. They're worse than the patriarchy, because we can't even speak up openly against them.The HYPOCRISY is SICKENING. LADIES WAKE UP!!!
Gay is on her way out. I give it less than month that she'll "resign."
Her life and career are now in danger for speaking out
Firing gay would be considered racism.😂😅
She needs to resign.
I don’t remember that at birth the children looked transgender or any kind of animal.
They are always male or female.
So we seem to be really in Andersen's fairy tale about the naked king
It all depends on the context, especially when one is creating it by turning blind eye on calls directed against particular ethnicity for exemple.
May I remind you that some journalists and writers were condemned in France to a firing squad in 1945 precisely for creating a context in which deportations into death camps became possible within hostile or indifferent population
Our “ Freedom of Speech “ means you can say anything but nothing bad about OUR SHARED VALUES FRIEND Israel!
I disagree with the statement hypocrisy is the issue -- it's a sick culture on that campus. Wokeness is a religion, and they're often behaving like cult members.
These interviewers - amazing! They never allow their guests to finish their thoughts. They always interrupt.
Only when it works for them
GAY must resign and face criminal charges for promoting hate speech.
WOKE ideology is like the emperors new clothes ... I wish more could see that the emperor is naked. And shout out!
No one, not one Harvard colleague stood up. All funding, public & private, should end.
What a bunch of hypocrites at Harvard… How can a president keep her job? That’s what I wanna know…
Bullshit on all sides. It's VERY simple: Calling for genocide is not OK. In any context.
Dr. Carole Hoven is a hero for taking a stand on Free Speech.
It is not just about university policies, but more about colleges not being in line with the needs of the country.