I think this is a great idea. First get both conferences to 20 teams. Then have relegation with the bottom 3 or 4 teams in each conference where the losers go to lower conferences and the champions move up to SEC and BIG10. It could work.
Look if ur team recruits on average not even in the top 25 and u have teams like uga ohst bama having top3 recruiting classes every yr amassing elite talent across the board and the depth with their 3rd string more talented than ur 1st... u arent going to be able to match the level of play through 4qtrs... dont blame the teams who work their butts off to maintain and create these elite monster teams within the parameters laid out for all teams... they just outwork other staffs and use and maximize the time available and have athletic dep willing to spend whatever Kirby needs to own the recruiting rankings with multiple top classes and always in the top 3 since 2017. natty winners 1 and all have had consecutive top 3 classes for 3 or more seasons...
@@bobbysilver581 seems this dude doesn't grasp coaching matters not just recruiting talent. Miami who is one of the top teams in the nation as far as draft picks last 20+ years yet never won ACC, I think only played for title once.
Man… Aaron Murray comparing about the 20s? Give me a blue bird day with sunshine in the 20s and that is heaven for me! With that said, I like and respect Aarron and think he does a good of job as an analyst
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They needed to keep the conference championship games relevant. It's too much money to give up on them and you cannot put teams that play an extra game at a disadvantage
Nobody is looking at this from how it was supposed to be from the thought of a 12 team playoff. A 12 team playoff was supposed to be the higher ranked teams usually the big ten and sec getting home games against lower ranked teams from other conferences getting in. The problem is that sec teams have lost too many games and the big ten top teams haven't. So now you have the top big ten teams playing the top sec teams. If georgia and bama had only lost q game each this year this video would be irrelevant
SEC needs to stop whinning, there are many teams in the 4 team playoff era that were left out over mediocre SEC teams, SEC only plays 8 conference games with an extra FCS filler, while other conferences play a full 9 conference games with power conference teams
SeC and Big10 making their own playoff is dumb. As SEC Homer I like those smaller teams getting a shot. I believe 1 in 5 years we could end up with a " less deserving conf team" getting to semi finals. Those types of seasons can transform a conference and team. If you lose 3 games your chances should be very slim. Ie. UGA loses 3 wouldn't have been the same as say Texas or Ole Miss losing 3. Why? UGA would have lost 3 to top 15 teams. Whereas Bama, Ole Miss , USC. LOST to horrible teams. If we really want to have SEC and Big10 getting their "earned/ perceived " dominance then we need to go to 24 teams. 6 auto from both. 2 from ACC Big12. 6 or 7 at large and 1 or 2 g5 teams. Either expand or create 4 team conf playoffs as the 9th regular season game for each conf to weed out going a full season with unbalanced schedules
Oregon clicking is the 'most complete' team. They left points on the table agin the Scarlett Buc's and St. got gifted the opening drive *Tuddy Don't count chicken's Arron 'Georgia homer' Murray, Our dazzle Ducks look to play the Buckeyes round 2 game in Indy, not the Shoe' Danny Lan's will have em ready
Sick of the SEC only playing eight league games. Scheduling Southwestern North directional state in week 10 is similar to a bye week. The SEC is losing its grip at the top. Here comes the Big Ten.
Any SEC team would gladly play 9 conference games if they were in the big 10. Top to bottom you will never find as much blue chip talent anywhere else. 8 of the top 25 teams in the country are from the SEC and even the unranked ones like Florida, LSU and Kentucky are still dangerous. There is no conference where the lower half could still beat you on any given Saturday with sheer amount of talent they possess.
You can’t say Georgia this year has a better chance at winning the natty over Oregon. That’s where the homer comes from. And btw, the last 3 years has NOTHING to do with 2024, so yes Aaron is just a homer with his Georgia analysis
SEC should beat the schedule in front of them and they’d get in. Or they can behave like children and take their ball and go home Or throw a fit and get the playoff criteria changed to suit them. They didn’t win NC last year and won’t this year. NIL has leveled the playing field
All great points. But don’t forget the loss of Auburn to Toledo… or Mississippi to CAL… AnM to ND. Or Vandi to Georgia State. All conferences have losses. The point this year is not 1 confrence is dominate or overwelming there like the SEC in the past. So anyone saying Bama needs a chance or is being cheated is crazy
@@bakertron846 are you seriously posting stupid football math? Georgia struggled with Kentucky, Texas blew them out so by your silly logic Texas would beat Georgia if they ever played... Oh wait, guess what happened on the field. But Ohio State struggled with Nebraska and Indians blew Nebraska doors off so if the two ever played each other... Oh they did.
There should be NO 3 loss team in the CFP period especially Alabama who has loss to 3 un ranked teams with losing records. If the CFPb committee puts them in the committee will lose all credibility. 🤬🤬🤬🤬
If UGA beats GT and loses the SEC champ game, they should still get in the 12 team playoff. But I think this is the only exception to a 3 loss team making it in.
The pacific big 10 ain't deep at all in the conferen̈ce but keep a eye on #9ND #12SMU #18IND #8CLEM #10SC on 4 teams out of 5 teams could smell 🩸blood 🦈for a shark in a loss that could give new birth to #13Bama #15Olemiss in the playoff window but I think if Dabo brings pressure on D and runs the slot rotation left right right left in a quick release to start the game mixing in the play action and run game in balanced to start the first quarter it will open up the playback against the gamecocks in a win as the other 2teams i'm affraid will go down in a big L . #18INDIANA MIGHT BEAT BALL ST BUT WILL GET EMBARRASSED IN THE BIG 12 ELITE BEST FOOTBALL PLAYOFF TEAMS !! I'm affraid for Lsu as well this weekend"
Man there are some really dumb takes in this. Oregon has been the most consistent of late? They barely just beat Minnesota. And the suggestion that Texas may be better with Arch and should make a change just for the playoffs is the most clickbait idiotic take I’ve heard lately
Please let the SEC and B1Ggo do there own thing. Tired of all the crying from them. Especially the SEC. Also tired of all the talking heads talking about it. We are sitting g here debating about people getting left out of a 12 team playoff. Gtfoh. Win your games and stop crying.
I agree, its only the SEC that is doing all the crying this year. Most of them have 2-3 losses yet the talking heads still kiss their azz. All week I heard about a path for Bama to make the playoff! They don't deserve to make it, they suck!
Coming from a Georgia fan, screw the SEC. The 12 team playoff should let in teams like Boise state or SMU, not mid tier SEC teams. And yes I will have this same energy when Georgia loses 3 games with a tough schedule and gets left out. Go Dawgs
This dude is giving some dumb arguments. Vanderbilt lost to Georgia Southern yet you are claiming they are really good is clueless. It is true, conferences are not all equal but that didn't matter, playoffs exist to get the best team in the nation, it is not to hand out conference participation trophies. Conferences are the first filter, if you aren't even top 3 of your own conference, guess what you aren't nationally (hint: not the best team).
@balleraap007 you are one sad boy it's funny how you children cope. This may shock you but SEC is a conference not a team. Nick Saban being dominant over the last 17 or so years does not make the dumpster fire teams that make up 70 percent of the conference elite. I guess 0-8 Oklahoma State, Georgia State and the other terrible teams with "SEC" wins are also elite in your mind. Keep telling yourself Vanderbilt is good to cope with bad teams winning.
Yet here we sit with ND being top 5 after losing to NIU. Rattling off a weak ACC bond and playing AAC and MAC teams. With the 8th best big10 team . ND played a weaker " conference " schedule then Indiana, SMU, and even Texas
@@adenlycosky USC is 10th not 8th but, just because one team is getting in that probably doesn't belong doesn't mean you stuff the tournament with more teams that definitely don't belong. The 4th best team in any conference has proven without a doubt they aren't the best in their small pool of 18 or less teams so they are clearly not the best team in the nation no need to keep dragging dead weight.
That's the problem You think the SEC would rag doll anybody. That doesn't seem to be the case. I mean if you think about it Oklahoma's a big 12 team. And so is Texas. Very first year in SEC. They're beating your teams. I mean the SEC is not this can be anybody conference. I'm more scared of the big 10 I'm a Notre Dame fan. I would much rather play Alabama and Georgia then play Ohio State and Oregon. And that's a fact. And i much rather play Tennessee and South Carolina then Penn State and Indiana. And that's a fact. The SEC is no better than the Big ten it's not. I know you think it is but it's not. You just watch and see. They want to put Alabama in so bad they would even take them at 8 and 4 I bet. Just kind of gross that you guys act this way. When there's lots of other good teams that deserve it more than the SEC.
Lmaooooo Bama and Georgia much rather play Ohio St. And Oregon than each other. Yeah, Ohio St and Oregon can beat them on the right day. But, Georgia and Bama can have an off day and win on a missed field goal. Tennessee and Ole Miss can beat both Oregon and Ohio St. So, 🤫
oklahoma and texas were the two best teams in the big 12 nobody is saying that the best of each conference can't compete with each other. what we are saying is that unlike other conferences the secs mid tier teams would generally run through other conferences schedule.
if youd rather play tennessee and south carolina than penn state and indiana then im sorry my friends you are just a moron and there is nothing anybody can do to help you
Kind of a BS take The SEC plays less conference games and more cupcakes 🧁 and they absolutely do NOT beat each other up more than any other conference. If anything its LESS because they play LESS conference games The SEC can sit and spin
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I think this is a great idea. First get both conferences to 20 teams. Then have relegation with the bottom 3 or 4 teams in each conference where the losers go to lower conferences and the champions move up to SEC and BIG10. It could work.
Don't they do that in soccer somewhere? I follow MLS a little, but that's it. 😂😂😂
@@charlie82824 promotion and relegation, they do that in soccer virtually everywhere, other than the USA.
@@charlie82824Englisch premier league and the German Bundesliga ...
but we need the vandy and may nerds in our conference
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Great convo guys. I like the Swiss Army knife comparison for Starks.
So excited about the big game. Hook’em.
Look if ur team recruits on average not even in the top 25 and u have teams like uga ohst bama having top3 recruiting classes every yr amassing elite talent across the board and the depth with their 3rd string more talented than ur 1st... u arent going to be able to match the level of play through 4qtrs... dont blame the teams who work their butts off to maintain and create these elite monster teams within the parameters laid out for all teams... they just outwork other staffs and use and maximize the time available and have athletic dep willing to spend whatever Kirby needs to own the recruiting rankings with multiple top classes and always in the top 3 since 2017. natty winners 1 and all have had consecutive top 3 classes for 3 or more seasons...
Having talent does make you a good football team. See USC.
Or fsu
Having a Texas winning culture makes you a good football team.
@@OverexcitedTexas ? 🤡🤡
@@bobbysilver581 seems this dude doesn't grasp coaching matters not just recruiting talent. Miami who is one of the top teams in the nation as far as draft picks last 20+ years yet never won ACC, I think only played for title once.
Crazy thing is SC rivaled Oregon and OSU talent wise but sucks lol
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Man… Aaron Murray comparing about the 20s? Give me a blue bird day with sunshine in the 20s and that is heaven for me! With that said, I like and respect Aarron and think he does a good of job as an analyst
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The playoffs should take the top 12 team according to the ap poll rankings. I don't agree with giving conference auto bid.
That's offensive
The ap doesn't even watch all the games.
Ap sucks. They have no idea who is better
They needed to keep the conference championship games relevant. It's too much money to give up on them and you cannot put teams that play an extra game at a disadvantage
Nobody is looking at this from how it was supposed to be from the thought of a 12 team playoff. A 12 team playoff was supposed to be the higher ranked teams usually the big ten and sec getting home games against lower ranked teams from other conferences getting in. The problem is that sec teams have lost too many games and the big ten top teams haven't. So now you have the top big ten teams playing the top sec teams. If georgia and bama had only lost q game each this year this video would be irrelevant
Dont think it worked out as they wanted
Arizona state deserves the credit, give them a shot. They at least played some decent ranked team unlike some of the other those sketchy team
I know the SEC has been a beast but using the eye test the top of the SEC in not as good as they have been but let the CFP sort it out.
SEC needs to stop whinning, there are many teams in the 4 team playoff era that were left out over mediocre SEC teams, SEC only plays 8 conference games with an extra FCS filler, while other conferences play a full 9 conference games with power conference teams
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To your point, the SEC has had more players drafted for 18 consecutive years.
I've been making the same arguments about how a sec loss is different online and been getting trolled hard for it ... But I agree
I thought Georgia was playing Saturday at noon. Missed the game
Now that more schools can pay on par as the SEC more teams will be on par with SEC.
Go Boise State
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SeC and Big10 making their own playoff is dumb. As SEC Homer I like those smaller teams getting a shot. I believe 1 in 5 years we could end up with a " less deserving conf team" getting to semi finals. Those types of seasons can transform a conference and team. If you lose 3 games your chances should be very slim. Ie. UGA loses 3 wouldn't have been the same as say Texas or Ole Miss losing 3. Why? UGA would have lost 3 to top 15 teams. Whereas Bama, Ole Miss , USC. LOST to horrible teams. If we really want to have SEC and Big10 getting their "earned/ perceived " dominance then we need to go to 24 teams. 6 auto from both. 2 from ACC Big12. 6 or 7 at large and 1 or 2 g5 teams. Either expand or create 4 team conf playoffs as the 9th regular season game for each conf to weed out going a full season with unbalanced schedules
4 Big ten & 4 SEC in a bracket of 8 ?
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Not mention asu lost to cin without there qb, there qb is decent.
Then why should Georgia always get an automatic bid.? They aren't that great either.
Oregon clicking is the 'most complete' team. They left points on the table agin the Scarlett Buc's and St. got gifted the opening drive *Tuddy
Don't count chicken's Arron 'Georgia homer'
Murray,
Our dazzle Ducks look to play the Buckeyes round 2 game in Indy, not the Shoe'
Danny Lan's will have em ready
Sick of the SEC only playing eight league games. Scheduling Southwestern North directional state in week 10 is similar to a bye week. The SEC is losing its grip at the top. Here comes the Big Ten.
Jelly hater haha sec wins 75% of the championships
Any SEC team would gladly play 9 conference games if they were in the big 10. Top to bottom you will never find as much blue chip talent anywhere else. 8 of the top 25 teams in the country are from the SEC and even the unranked ones like Florida, LSU and Kentucky are still dangerous. There is no conference where the lower half could still beat you on any given Saturday with sheer amount of talent they possess.
@@karimisrael9407Miami destroyed Florida in the swamp. USC beat LSU on a neutral site. ND beat A&M. The SEC is overrated and you're just prejudiced.
@bjc215 okay cool. Now do bowl season last year. O but that doesn't count right? When Missouri embarrassed Ohio state for example?
@@BB-ce5ev Why would last year count? ..and didn't Michigan win last year?
You can’t say Georgia this year has a better chance at winning the natty over Oregon. That’s where the homer comes from. And btw, the last 3 years has NOTHING to do with 2024, so yes Aaron is just a homer with his Georgia analysis
Your guest lost his mind. Ohio is not going to beat Oregon if they played again.
Just let SEC and the Big10 do there own thing. I’m tired of the damn whining. Just go away.
that's too much 16 teams is insane that's way too much football
It's just getting rid of 4 teams getting a by. 4 more games total.... There's no such thing as too much football BTW lol
Don’t think tn is a contender.. is he dumb?
the people in the stands dont play
Nowhere to run. Nowhere to hide for the sec. They will be force to play up NORTH IN THE COLD!!!
Lmfao ga will get a bye and Tennessee will get a home playoff game Texas might get clapped up north tho
You do know it gets cold in the south right.
Yes because everyone knows the sec is equivalent to the Amazon jungle and they have never experiences anything below 50°.
caleb downs must not be able to play up there at ohio state, you know, he's a southerner
SEC should beat the schedule in front of them and they’d get in. Or they can behave like children and take their ball and go home
Or throw a fit and get the playoff criteria changed to suit them. They didn’t win NC last year and won’t this year. NIL has leveled the playing field
Bro if the SEC teams would of won games from outside the conference this would not be an issue
Clown argument
All great points. But don’t forget the loss of Auburn to Toledo… or Mississippi to CAL… AnM to ND. Or Vandi to Georgia State. All conferences have losses. The point this year is not 1 confrence is dominate or overwelming there like the SEC in the past. So anyone saying Bama needs a chance or is being cheated is crazy
“would of” So much for your credibility.
@@bakertron846 are you seriously posting stupid football math? Georgia struggled with Kentucky, Texas blew them out so by your silly logic Texas would beat Georgia if they ever played... Oh wait, guess what happened on the field. But Ohio State struggled with Nebraska and Indians blew Nebraska doors off so if the two ever played each other... Oh they did.
@@bakertron846Georgia whipped Clemson. We will see what they do to Georgia Tech who beat Miami.
Will GA play in Ohio Snow?
Ga will get a bye
even if they don't get a bye then they damn sure wouldn't be scared
Lets see There not that scary when the refs make the right calls. Go Tech Go make some peaches cry...
There should be NO 3 loss team in the CFP period especially Alabama who has loss to 3 un ranked teams with losing records. If the CFPb committee puts them in the committee will lose all credibility. 🤬🤬🤬🤬
But wait it’s the SEC. If they are not playing each other they play fcs schools or Mercer. Who wants to watch the 3 loss anybody? I sure don’t.
I totally understand. I feel the same way Alabama does not deserve to be in period 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
If UGA beats GT and loses the SEC champ game, they should still get in the 12 team playoff. But I think this is the only exception to a 3 loss team making it in.
@@Robert-Italyif A&M wins the sec ccg, they'd also be in as a 3 loss team.
The only 3 loss team that has a shot would be a BIG10 Or SEC conference game loser. Otherwise,. No you suck, Go sit down
Not in favor but you are shouting ideas?!
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The pacific big 10 ain't deep at all in the conferen̈ce but keep a eye on #9ND #12SMU #18IND #8CLEM #10SC on 4 teams out of 5 teams could smell 🩸blood 🦈for a shark in a loss that could give new birth to #13Bama #15Olemiss in the playoff window but I think if Dabo brings pressure on D and runs the slot rotation left right right left in a quick release to start the game mixing in the play action and run game in balanced to start the first quarter it will open up the playback against the gamecocks in a win as the other 2teams i'm affraid will go down in a big L . #18INDIANA MIGHT BEAT BALL ST BUT WILL GET EMBARRASSED IN THE BIG 12 ELITE BEST FOOTBALL PLAYOFF TEAMS !! I'm affraid for Lsu as well this weekend"
Man there are some really dumb takes in this. Oregon has been the most consistent of late? They barely just beat Minnesota. And the suggestion that Texas may be better with Arch and should make a change just for the playoffs is the most clickbait idiotic take I’ve heard lately
Please let the SEC and B1Ggo do there own thing. Tired of all the crying from them. Especially the SEC. Also tired of all the talking heads talking about it. We are sitting g here debating about people getting left out of a 12 team playoff. Gtfoh. Win your games and stop crying.
Agree 💯
I agree, its only the SEC that is doing all the crying this year. Most of them have 2-3 losses yet the talking heads still kiss their azz. All week I heard about a path for Bama to make the playoff! They don't deserve to make it, they suck!
I know last year they said there is never even 4 teams that can win it all now there are allegedly more than 4 just in the sec! 🤡😂🤦🏼♂️
😂😂😂SEC on top. Keep that energy when they run the table in the playoffs.
@ only because they are stacking the deck to help them…
Coming from a Georgia fan, screw the SEC. The 12 team playoff should let in teams like Boise state or SMU, not mid tier SEC teams. And yes I will have this same energy when Georgia loses 3 games with a tough schedule and gets left out. Go Dawgs
You sound like a troll instead of a fan.
This dude is giving some dumb arguments. Vanderbilt lost to Georgia Southern yet you are claiming they are really good is clueless. It is true, conferences are not all equal but that didn't matter, playoffs exist to get the best team in the nation, it is not to hand out conference participation trophies. Conferences are the first filter, if you aren't even top 3 of your own conference, guess what you aren't nationally (hint: not the best team).
Someone is mad that the sec wins 75% of the championships
@balleraap007 you are one sad boy it's funny how you children cope. This may shock you but SEC is a conference not a team. Nick Saban being dominant over the last 17 or so years does not make the dumpster fire teams that make up 70 percent of the conference elite. I guess 0-8 Oklahoma State, Georgia State and the other terrible teams with "SEC" wins are also elite in your mind. Keep telling yourself Vanderbilt is good to cope with bad teams winning.
Yet here we sit with ND being top 5 after losing to NIU. Rattling off a weak ACC bond and playing AAC and MAC teams. With the 8th best big10 team . ND played a weaker " conference " schedule then Indiana, SMU, and even Texas
@@adenlycosky USC is 10th not 8th but, just because one team is getting in that probably doesn't belong doesn't mean you stuff the tournament with more teams that definitely don't belong. The 4th best team in any conference has proven without a doubt they aren't the best in their small pool of 18 or less teams so they are clearly not the best team in the nation no need to keep dragging dead weight.
Cry harder.
That's the problem You think the SEC would rag doll anybody. That doesn't seem to be the case. I mean if you think about it Oklahoma's a big 12 team. And so is Texas. Very first year in SEC. They're beating your teams. I mean the SEC is not this can be anybody conference. I'm more scared of the big 10 I'm a Notre Dame fan. I would much rather play Alabama and Georgia then play Ohio State and Oregon. And that's a fact. And i much rather play Tennessee and South Carolina then Penn State and Indiana. And that's a fact. The SEC is no better than the Big ten it's not. I know you think it is but it's not. You just watch and see. They want to put Alabama in so bad they would even take them at 8 and 4 I bet. Just kind of gross that you guys act this way. When there's lots of other good teams that deserve it more than the SEC.
Nd sucks lmfao y’all bout to lose to usc go to lose to niu 🤡🤡🤡
Lmaooooo Bama and Georgia much rather play Ohio St. And Oregon than each other. Yeah, Ohio St and Oregon can beat them on the right day. But, Georgia and Bama can have an off day and win on a missed field goal. Tennessee and Ole Miss can beat both Oregon and Ohio St. So, 🤫
Join a conference, then you get a voice
oklahoma and texas were the two best teams in the big 12 nobody is saying that the best of each conference can't compete with each other. what we are saying is that unlike other conferences the secs mid tier teams would generally run through other conferences schedule.
if youd rather play tennessee and south carolina than penn state and indiana then im sorry my friends you are just a moron and there is nothing anybody can do to help you
Imagine crying about not making the playoffs when you lost to two unranked teams(bama/ole piss). The audacity of these SEC fans🤡
Kind of a BS take
The SEC plays less conference games and more cupcakes 🧁 and they absolutely do NOT beat each other up more than any other conference. If anything its LESS because they play LESS conference games
The SEC can sit and spin