Former operations manager here from an ethanol plant... Just make sure you store them in a cool dark area. Fyi... The better you make your beer (mash), the more efficient your distillery will run. Also to make even better booze... When assembling your still put horizontal plates inside. Example: if you have let's say a 24" diameter still and let's say it stands 6' high... Start assembling the trays about a third high in the still from the bottom so your beer (mash) will be able to heat up... Make your horizontal trays about 22" wide... Then place one on the left side, go up about 4" and place another tray... But this time place it on the right side. Stagger them going up like latter rungs all the way up till about 4" from the top. That way when you use your still, the horizontal plates will trap the fusel oils (long strain of ethanol molecules attached together). That's what gives people hangovers. That's why the cheep booze gives you hangovers... Cheap still. Just make sure you clean it very good! The fusel oils gunk up... Like fruit roll ups... Oh and one more note... Caustic cleans organics (bacteria etc) Acid cleans minerals (scales etc)
One more thing... The highest alcohol % you can create from beer (mash) is 16% (under lab conditions) The highest alcohol proof for just distilled booze is 198.6 proof. Although you can achieve 200 proof, but you have to use molecular sieve beeds. They trap the water molecules and let the longer ethanol molecules pass bye.
One great moment for me in my life was visiting with you when we first came out and sitting on your porch and having a drink with you.....after a hard days work. I loved it. Bless you Pastor and thank you for the wisdom. Shalom
Love your video! Only reason I don't have vodka and Jack Daniel's is that I am still working on the food. Vodka will be next for medicine then more cheap booze. I know people will want it and the 350ml is the perfect size for barter. Large size for medical use only.
Hey PJF, I've worked in a store selling beer and liquor so here are my thoughts. 1. No one buys Gin don't stock that. 2. Buy liquor only in glass because we know from history it will last a long time, plastic will degrade. 3. I wouldn't buy the expensive stuff I don't think you will get as much trade in return (%) as you will for cheaper stuff, I just don't see people being that picky. Whiskey Vodka Rum No mixers obviously. You can buy big 1.75 liter bottles and a few small funnels and have a refill "program" for the airplane baby bottles. It's a know size and set cost to refill. This is my plan Oh and cigarettes get stale. My 2 cents.
I’d have to agree. In general, basic ethanol has so many practical uses that the ability to distill the stuff seems to me like a winning proposition all the way around. And all you really need for making it, other than equipment, is starch, yeast and water. POOF! Alcohol!
Vodka is good because it is roughly 50% water and 50% alcohol. Most plants have both water soluble and alcohol soluble parts. Some parts are soluble with one but not both; thus the benefit of using Vodka if you want to extract all of the plant. However some plants have little if any water soluble parts. Take for instance Usnea lichen because it is an exception (regardless of what you might be being taught by uninformed "herbalists") to Vodka being a good medium because almost none of Usnea (if any at all) is water soluble. Thus for proper processing you need to use Everclear to process Usnea properly. Note: Some states have different Everclear. It used to be (maybe still is) that Montana was one of the best places to purchase Everclear because it was not diluted as it is in other states - like Washington State. Most well experienced/educated herbalists will not use whiskey or bourbon or ... . Rotgut Moonshine from home production is probably a good choice IF it is diluted to be about 50/50 water and alcohol.
I started collecting Jack Daniels many years ago for bartering. I am constantly having to restock up on it though. I had heard it goes bad about every 6 months 😊
Keep it kool, dry, in dark and it will last for 5-20 years. Ya never seen 'aged 25' years... Biggest issue is the Angels Share it evaporates. Does not go bad, the angels drink it!
The Lord delivered me from Alcohol a few years back,it nearly killed me, I don't sit here in judgment about this subject, its just that some of us are weaker in this area. I personally would not barter something that would make my brother stumble just to save my own flesh.
theron farrer Not sure why he put this on RUclips 🤔 How many Brothers and Sisters May stumble listening to this. I’m also sober and in my 60’s and see lots of my Christian friends being lukewarm and living deeper in the world. Don’t see how drinking,smoking pot, doing drugs can help with anyone’s walk toward Jesus. But everyone has a choice.
@@gampy5445 I think I'm of the same train of thought, I wouldn't have a problem bartering it to someone who I thought would drink responsibly but I have a bit of an issue with this whole notion of stocking up on it because some are addicted and will move mountains to get it.
1 Timothy 5:23, Stop drinking only water and use a little wine instead, because of your stomach and your frequent ailments. NIV Nothing wrong with a little as long as you can maintain proper bearing.
@@peggyhall5363 I do not recall where it says that, but when Paul said wine I am inclined to think two things; 1) alcohol as a rule is not mistranslated, 2) there are benefits to light alcohol consumption. I won't pretend that wine in that time wasn't any stronger than a low content wine-cooler of today. But a little self-control can bring a little benefit...rest for your weary bones being the most obvious. But also Paul says this about all things in general: "“All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything." 1 Corinthians 6:12 ESV. I am thinking your looking at the old testament if I had to guess, I am not a Jew so I do not live according to it. Only the principles that are reiterated in the New Testament.
@@peggyhall5363 Oh and cheeses and many vinegar's are fermented, many nutrients are made available to us through fermentation. Not sure why God would be against it except in the case of poor cooking practices.
@@peggyhall5363 Yep, as far I know, fermented products are not forbidden, the Jews were limited to unleavened bread during Passover, which may be due to fact that they were on the move out of Egypt and could not take the time to let it rise. Otherwise, it seems that leavened bread is quite normal for the Jewish community. So it is likely just a remembrance thing that they adhere to unleavened bread. As far as fermented foods go, your intestinal track keeps many microbes that break down your food so you can get the nutrients you need to live. Fermented foods such as vinegar and sauerkraut and cottage cheese are known as pre-biotics that help to nourish those microbes and help keep out the not-so-good microbes. Drinking a light amount of a vinegar and water solution is thought to be a great aid to your intestinal health which may show in your overall health and well-being. But science is still evolving on that issue. If you are interested to try it, I make a 12 oz glass of water with 1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar and two tablespoons of lemon and drink it occasionally. It is a strong taste, but I cannot swear to its effect, only that I actually do "feel" healthy but cannot attribute it to vinegar. If your interested in finding out more, just do a search for "Drinking Apple Cider Vinegar".
I think Vodka would appeal to more people. It can be mixed with anything for individual tastes and as you said can also be a cleanser, a cure for poison ivy, mosquito repellent, kills mold, soothes jellyfish stings, can be used to extract oil from flowers and herbs. Its a great barter item for sure!
Seeds, shovels, rake, axes, nails, and other things people will need to start. Silver, small silver coins. Plastic sheets, on and on. If doesn't use electricity it would be worth having around.
I like the first items you mention, but I have had friends that collected precious metals and it always boggled my mind. Who sets value for it when everything has collapsed? I think its better to have some farm animals and crop skills. These are renewable resources that bring direct benefit. Precious metals and stones just look pretty, they can't bring you any direct benefit in SHTF. If Someone wanted to pay me with that I would laugh my tail end off and walk away.
Yep! Grab the old time two man saws, different forms of axes ,chisels and so forth at farm auction , these are the things that build a community when it all falls apart,it will 3.5 years of hell on earth, peace! House of kenosis
And let ever man have a house ,a cow ,some chickens , no more houses connected to another house, no more building a house for someone else to live in ie buying and selling , no more usury from the banks , no more universal church of satanic manipulation "cat licker"
Might as well plan on taking over a Home Depot store. LOL. Gold and silver is for people who read too many doomer fantasy books. In reality, a loaf of bread is worth more than it's weight in gold, to a hungry person. Also, most people who store seeds, have never raised a garden. Just look at history events in the past 200 years. Best barter items have always been; Booze, salt, sugar, soap and other hygiene items. All first necessity items that can't be produced or obtained locally, will be very valuable in a true, long term SHTF scenario. You can also trade your skills and time for items you need. Gasoline will probably be the number one commodity here in the US because cities are spread out and nothing is within walking distance. This is why having a small, economical motorcycle like a KLR-650 or even a small moped will be a life saver. Good luck finding enough fuel for your super bug out 4x4 truck that gets 10 MPG.
Good video thanks Pastor Joe and M.M. I traded a bottle of whiskey for some 2" elm boards, so i could finish my kitchen. We are able to distill 30 liters/65 pints per year for personal consumption but this is the Highlands of Scotland after all.
There's a book "Alcohol can be a gas" -- you can create your own alchohol for fuel to run your tractors, generators and vehicles..booze ain't just for drinking.. and bartering ain't just for "grid down situations"
@@puremusicdaz i agree with ya. But being he not going to illegally distill whiskey. I meant he's probably not going to do fuel either. But in general yeah I encourage the people do what they want. f*** the government
@@puremusicdaz After doing research on my own, in most states you can freely make beer, no licensing needed, of course, its not a stretch to extend that to whiskey in a SHTF scenario, provided your location is secure. But yea, during probition they severely regulated the practice of making whiskey and other hard beverages with taxation.
Coffee is a great barter item. Ziplock it. You can also make colloidal silver out of distilled water and 99.99% silver to barter. Easy to make and great medical uses external/internal uses works on animals as well.
@@redrider7730 In most states (looking at you Florida), and in federal law, owning a still is not illegal, its what you make with it. Distilled water, and essential oils are not regulated by the federal gov't.
Thanks for sharing with us all. Same here 1 cocktail every night when the day is done. I started stocking up on my bartering supply. Nicotine lozenges, gum, patches, medications...everything that my health insurance will pay for. LOL
Stock up on cheap vodka , serious drinkers got to keep up the habit. Also find out what people whose services you might need (your doctor) like to drink.
Here in Finland we have very easy to make beverage called "Kilju". Produced by fermenting sugar, yeast, and water. It´s sugar wine with alcohol content of 15-17%. You can make a patch in three days with "Turbo yeast". Taste varies from horrible to not-so-horrible. It grew in popularity during the economic depression that followed the Finnish banking crisis of the early 1990s.
I would think pipe tobacco would be good to store up because it is recommended to jar up in masonry jars. An it ages well, and you can buy in bulk! Am a pipe smoker so that's why I mentioned it.
I have 2 plus cases of various barter Booze same sizes as your Jack Danial's. Just good stuff to have when times get rough. I don't drink at all myself but someone may have something I need one day. As for the smokes I was told you can get roll your owns with papers pretty cheap. Store the tobacco in air tight pouches-(Vac seal)- not with the papers. To bring the tobacco back to life if dry, add in apple slices with it a few days to a week before use to hydrate the tobacco. Lemon or orange will also work but I hear it will give the tobacco a strange flavor. As for using a Vac seal during SHTF you can buy the Vac seal lid attachment (Walmart or just about anywhere) and seal in Mason jars using a hand held Brake bleeder pump from Harbor Freight. Works really well. Super cheap and no electric required! Thanks for the video!
Cannabis not only gets you stoned but it has a TON of objective, measurable medicinal effects as well. Not to mention hemp's fiber can be used to make rope and fabric, and oil can be extracted to use as lubricants or even to make plastic. Oh and you can make paper with it too. Cannabis is very versatile and not a bad idea for a SHTF material, whether you personally use it or not. Me personally I'd much rather have a bunch of stoned neighbors then a bunch of drunk neighbors in a bad situation
Love the channel. The square bottles are fifth's. The flask types are pints. Will definitely be valuable. Disagree about the cigarettes though. You could store probably a carton or more in a .50 Cal ammobox. They will keep for a long time unopened, and smokers will be so happy to see someone with packs of camels for trade they'll love you for it. I know, I smoked for twenty five years. Thanks for all of your insight.
A Croatian prepper spoke about how in the beginning of the troubles as the Yugoslavian republic split up, he and his family aquired a large quantity of rakija, a local alcoholic beverage. He said they were able to barter quite a bit with it and it was part of his preps now.
You are on the right track with 375ml bottles, however, I would suggest, and take it from this cowboy, that you should look for alcohol that is over 100 proof. Yes, even for barter, over 100 proof alcohol can offer you more benifits than known. As a cowboy, who has spent time on horseback in the deserts, I have learned a few things with 100 + proof alcohol. 1.) It becomes flammable, good fire starter. 2.) A better pain reliever 3.) A antiseptic for small to moderate wounds 4.) Entertainment 5.) It takes less to achieve a functional goal of intoxication All 5 can be bartered differently in a SHTF scenario. Great video, and good job on learning a new perspective!
The 375mL is considered a pint and 750 mL is a fifth. I worked in an adult beverage store for 5 years. During that time I used my employee discount to my advantage by buying some booze and high end bourbons to put back for barter. I would recommend buying some 1500 mL /half gallons of the cheapest 100 proof vodka and 195 proof grain alcohol like Gem or Golden Grain that can be used to make extracts, tinctures, or used to start a fire. They can also be used as wound disinfectant, tool sterilization, and pain management in an emergeny medical situation.
In an SHTF era, alcohol, tobacco, and coffee will be in great demand. Moon-shine will be "legal" because there will not be law anyway. Tobacco lasts a long time, and can be purchased in 5 lbs bags, (I am a pipe smoker), and coffee will be hard to get when there are no imports coming into the USA.
Pints are what most people would barter for, but you can even get those huge gallon jugs of cheap Vodka at places like Walmart and make a bunch of pints out of it. Would also work well for wound sanitizer and keeping minor cuts clean. Also if I was to ever do tobacco as a barter item it would be the Pre-packed Loose Pipe kind that could also be used to roll cigs as it has a much longer shelf life. Would also have some Rolling Papers in the mix in that case as there good for both Tobacco and Weed. And yes Weed will be huge after SHTF, especially when people realize just how many Medical Purposes it serves and how many health issues it can cure.
You can get a permit to produce alcohol to use as fuel. There is a requirement to taint the batch with the first portion containing methanol in order to make it in-consumable, essentially rubbing alcohol/isopropyl. This would allow for practice of distilling until shtf where you could then do what you have to. Alcohol is also great as an antiseptic.
R&R Reserve is $20 for a half gallon of Canadian Whiskey. We are using pint mason jars for canning food and can repackage the half gallon of Whiskey into them for bartering.
You spent way too much money. Buy off brand spirits, vodka and whiskey. When push has come to shove, booze is booze and those who want it and more so those who "need" it won't care if its premium grade. They just want a drink and cheap stuff will do. I keep cases of pints and half pints of inexpensive vodka (when mixed in a drink you can't tell what brand it is) same goes for whiskey. Evan Williams costs less than Jack Daniels yet when mixed with a Coke and ice, it tastes the same. Being a connoisseur after SHTF is not going to be too practical or fulfilling. Buy cheaper booze and more of it.
I used to work in a state controlled liquor store, and when those people who just had to have a drink came in, their calculation was *price first and then the alcohol percentage* everything else was unimportant.
@@ginj5375 The cost of vanilla has gone sky-high in the last few months. Last year, a pint sold for $6-$8. This year, it's about $34. Perhaps the countries that grow vanilla beans are experiencing crop failures. Or maybe it's due to high tariffs. And for those people who plan to make beer, beware of the floods in the food belt. Many farmers will see no harvest this year. So, plan on corn prices rising. It's amazing (no pun intended) the many ways we use corn. Check out this pdf I found online yesterday: healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/products-that-use-corn.pdf
Don't forget that booze will have value as an antiseptic as well. I caught a sale one time and picked up several family-sized bottles of mouth wash for that same reason, it had fairly high alcohol content. Oh and you can order all kinds of empty containers in all different sizes, both plastic and glass, for repackaging your booze into smaller units. LOL, you can make that boring (repackaging) chore go easier by sampling the product! Thanks pastor!
According to Selco, the guy who survived in a city under siege for a year during the Bosnia War, if he had to do it all over again he'd invest in cigarette lighters as a barter item. Small, compact, lightweight, and worth their weight in gold for those who don't know how to make fire in the absence of natural gas and electricity.
For the little bottles look during holidays. There are usually samples bottles on bigger bottles. Over the years we have stocked up on tons of little bottles that way. Where I live the three size bottles you have are called a sample (2 shots), a mickey, and a 26er.
Let a smoker go without a cigarette all day and you will have someone willing to trade a 20rd box of 5.56 ammo for that 5yr old stale cigarette pack. No truer words have ever been said!
for real though coffee is gold when you dont have any and so is salt creamer and sugar . you could get a hand gun for a cup of coffe of the right cowboy , they got so many guns they can buy coffe with them
You are correct, making any concentrated liquor is illegal without a federal license. Even freezing store bought liquor and filtering out the water crystals to concentrate the alcohol is illegal.
One thing that people forget about all the time for long-term Preps. Aluminum foil. There is so many uses for aluminum foil. You can get huge rolls at Costco very cheap for about 10 bucks. Get a couple rolls of that they will last you for years. Aluminum foil is absolutely amazing. Not only for cooking for many many many uses.
Buy a huge bag of tobacco for $5 and vacume seal it. I've got tabbacco from 12 years ago that was vacuum sealed and its just fine. Couple that with a few packs of rolling papers for 50 cents each and you have something very valuable in SHTF
Cigarettes can be frozen and that keeps them fresh for an indefinite length of time. There is a RUclips guy that reviews all kinds of old MRE's and smokes the cigarettes from old rations and claims they are fine. When I was a smoker I used to keep my cartons in the freezer and can say from experience it works. Just storing smokes in cool dry place makes them last much longer. Personally I would rather store food in my freezer, but, a smoker may think different. This comment is probably a waste of our time but FYI is almost always a good thing in my humble opinion. I believe cooking oils, and, just vegetable oils in general, will be scarce in a SHTF situation and would make a great barter item. They seem to store well for the most part. Love the liquor idea its one I've not realized or thought of til now. Thanks for the info. Tobacco for roll your own cigarettes or even raw tobacco may be an idea
I would suggest for the purpose of SHTF bartering that "lower shelf" spirits would be your best bet. Less expensive beverages like Old Crow, Ancient Age, etc. Of course a top shelf bourbon like Maker's Mark will still have a lot of appeal. I think a lot of people during SHTF would like to feel at least a pleasant "buzz" while reminiscing about the world they lost. Good video Pastor Joe. I'm sipping a middle shelf bourbon as I enjoy your video. :)
Good to see you back with a video. You can produce "shine" as long as it is for personal consumption. I have many friends who do, whiskey, wine, beer, all sorts of alcohol. I made friends with a liquor sales rep and did some barter to get a supply of spirits several years ago. Those folks can get cases of the airline bottle "samples" for free to ....a...hand out. R
As a general rule, I don't buy items with the intention of bartering them. I buy for the consumption of me and mine. I stack deeper, the things I know/think we'll need. If there's some other need that circumstance throws in our path, I'm hopeful that the extra we do have will interest those we seek to trade with. At the very least we won't be left with something we don't want/can't use, that we wasted our finite resources on.
Alcohol is long-term storage. Tobacco is short-term storage. Make sure your alcohol is in glass. Plastic containers indicate cheap. Stills are easy to make as long as you have a Pressure cooker and gas stove. Beer and wine is legal to home-make.
The small bottles of liquor are a great idea for barter. At most liquor stores, if you buy these small bottles by the dozen, they are somewhat cheaper. They can be stored forever if unopened. And because of the size they are easy to transport. And during times of unrest and other civil disturbance over a period of time, liquor will be very high on the barter list. I would call it a no brainer.
The time watching this video 2 different song lyris kept going through my head. "Put some whiskey in your water, sugar in your tea..." And "them good ole boys were drinkin whiskey and rye..."
An old Uncle used to tell a story about the men that built the church in our small town, back in the day. I guess at that time you could only buy a limited quantity of whiskey per day, so every morning they would send a guy, on a horse, to a neighboring town for whiskey, and they would drink all day as they built the church. Well the women of the church did not like this, they showed up one afternoon, and told the men that they would not like their church built by a bunch of drunks. The men said ok, picked up their tools and went home. After a few days, the women realized their mistake, and had to go around and apologize to the men, and beg them to come back to work.
You can have a still if you get a License from the ATF AND you only produce alcohol as a Fuel. So, mostly, its for Farmers because they can convert their waste products into something that can be Fermented and turned into Fuel for the Farm. So, Yes, you can own a still on your farm, Rev.
You could buy cheap stuff in bulk, and re-bottle into smaller packages. And possibly "cut" the booze with water,if it's particularly high in alcohol content.
Regarding cigarettes, as long as they are kept sealed, in a good cool, dry place, they will last for a long time. They are $60 a carton here, so $6 a pack. Definitely a good barter item. BUT, being able to grow tobacco for pipes after SHTF will be the way to go. Being able to sit on the porch, pack a little into the pipe and have a few puffs is just... relaxing. Yeah, I know it's not good for you, but many of us love it. Again, moderation.
I know where I am at in Texas, having had multiple TABC classes and friends in law enforcement, it is my understanding that one can make roughly 250 gallons of alcohol weather that is wine or liquor per year for personal consumption without having to have a license. And I know a multitude of people who are making wine Mead moonshine bourbon vodka and other Spirits at home. The local brew supply stores actually sell commercial versions of small stills. I actually started thinking about this idea after seeing your video about barter items and then thinking about items that have multiple uses which a still can be used to make distilled water and liquor and liquor can be used to make barter or for medicinal. I'm not really a big drinker but a nice glass a bourbon at the end of the day can be seen in my hand from time to time. Your ideas stockpiling the small bottles is not a bad idea. What I have been doing is buying the bigger bottles because of the better price per ounce and then subdividing it into smaller mason jars.
80 Proof plus is good for disinfecting wounds and can work as an anesthesia in a pinch.. Pastor just for reference Small bottles are Pints, Medium are Fifths, and the big boy is a Gallon..
Alcohol is always a smart idea, you just have to keep a few things in mind. Mainly because everyone's situation/set up in different. One, get what you like unless you want to keep yourself from drinking. For most people this will not be an issue, but for other it might. Two, is getting the appropriate sizes. If it is just for you save your money and buy big. If it is for barter then the smaller the better. If it is for bugging out then you have to go small. Fluids are heavy so if you have to carry it on your back then the 1.5 once bottles work well. Three, Plastic is not an oxygen barrier and the alcohol will break down over time. If this will be setting for a while then get glass. Four, UV radiation is death to alcohol so keep it out of the sun. This happens faster with dark liquors. Five, major temperature changes can cause alcohol to go bad as well. The lower the proof the faster this happens. Six, the higher the proof the better the liquor. When you purchase alcohol at a high enough proof you will find some interesting additions to the use. You will use far less meaning it will last longer. High enough proof can be used as fuel in a vehicle. Sanitation uses are greatly extended. There is also using it as a weapon, meaning that the higher the proof the easier it is to ignite. Guess that's it for now, good luck everyone. Oh, before I forget. You mentioned cigarettes as a barter item, but had no way to preserve them. Here are the two easiest ways. Either vacuum seal packs of cigarettes (preferable to get non-filtered due to price), or purchase the cans of tobacco and have some papers for people to roll there own. The cans are usually vacuum sealed so no additional steps need to be taken. Hope this helps you folks out there, bye.
You can produce beer and wine fairly cheap and it’s completely legal to do so. Perhaps something to look at, storing bottles of it to barter with in a grid down situation.
From the quick googling I did, it seems to be legal to own a still but not to make booze with it. You could can legally own it just for decoration, or for distilling water or essential oils. You can however get a "A Federal Fuel Alcohol Permit" which is supposedly easy to get, you just aren't supposed to drink what you distill then. But if you had that you could definitely stock up on booze legally, saying that you are simply storing your fuel.
Like with any business, buy in bulk and spread out your inventory into small packages to sell for markup. So 1 big bottle can fill up a lot of little bottles. Each of those little bottles are your currency in SHTF. Keep your bulk booze in storage.
Yea, booze is a lot cheaper on base due to the fact that there is no excise tax. One of the perks of being active/retired military or a family member. Thankyou for your service to our country.
Tobacco should be stored via seeds. Alcohol can be stored in bulk quantity and distributed in smaller containers for barter, or celebration.smaller bottles generally = less for your money.
1/2 pint. pint. jack bottle is a fifth or 750ml. bigger bottle is a handle or 1.75 liters. for storage, buy glass bottles. itll last longer and when ur finished w the booze, u can use the bottle for other things. oh, and if u want a real treat, get some bulleit rye. mmm delicious. have a good one folks
I became a scotch snob in my youth. Then kids came along and I rediscovered how much I like wild turkey. I also used to think you had to finish the bottle in a week after opening...then kid's college came along and I rediscovered how much I like stale whiskey in coke...it's all relative...kids cause reality checks... medical checks, tuition checks...
There’s a reason there is a BATF. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Three seemingly unrelated items, yet, all highly sought after in Black markets the world around and throughout history. Not a coincidence thinks I . . .
Yep, I've been buying barter booze for years. Not the good stuff I drink (Turkey 101 and Eagle Rare), but the $5.99 a fifth stuff you can buy by the case without breaking the budget (nobody will care when that's all they can get). As to stills, I have cousins in eastern Tennessee who have those special "gas" tanks in their trucks and they do just fine.
In Oklahoma, you can get a license to make ETHANOL, which is made through the same process as making alcohol. When making ETHANOL at the end of the process where you have about 50 gallons of your distilled alcohol in a 55-gallon barrel, you add one to three gallons of unleaded gasoline to the barrel and that makes it become classified as ETHANOL. That's what I have read. Now, onto bartering liquor. I would be very cautious about this because if you don't have a liquor license to sell liquor, you can be arrested for bootlegging because you don't have a license to resale and you should be collecting state and federal taxes. Now to say that you are not selling, but simply bartering, is a far stretch, as the argument will go that you are bartering or trading items of equal or comparative value. Again you are receiving compensation (money or other items of value) for the liquor which is state and federal controlled and requires a license and requires the collection of taxes. Not to burst your bubble or your good intentions, but the only legitimate way I can see alcohol being exchanged between one another would be in the form of a gift, such as Christmas gift, Birthday gift, Holiday gift, Anniversary gift, Graduation gift, Job Promotion gift, Vacation gift, Cinco De mayo gift, Veterans Day gift, New Years Day gift, Columbus Day gift, Memorial Day gift, Daytona 500 Day gift, Talladega 500 gift, Halloween Trick or Treet gift, Valentine's Day gift, Green/Peace Day gift, Yankee vs Red Sox Day gift, Grandma's funeral day gift, and there are certainly many other legitimate days for exchanging gifts among friends that do not require a license or the collection of taxes. I don't believe gifting requires any special wrapping paper or gift cards. It might be advisable to place a small tag around the neck of the bottle that says GIFT for those bottles that are in inventory.
Anything vice related is going to give you the best ROI when it comes to bartering in a SHTF scenario. Baby formula.......when supermarkets and drugs stores have to lock it up, it's definitely worth something.
A still can also be used to purify water, that's my story and I am sticking to it.
My ancestors have been distilling vinegar by the blue moon light for a long long while.
Research the Mr. Distiller countertop distiller,pretty cool.
Former operations manager here from an ethanol plant... Just make sure you store them in a cool dark area.
Fyi... The better you make your beer (mash), the more efficient your distillery will run. Also to make even better booze... When assembling your still put horizontal plates inside.
Example: if you have let's say a 24" diameter still and let's say it stands 6' high... Start assembling the trays about a third high in the still from the bottom so your beer (mash) will be able to heat up... Make your horizontal trays about 22" wide... Then place one on the left side, go up about 4" and place another tray... But this time place it on the right side. Stagger them going up like latter rungs all the way up till about 4" from the top. That way when you use your still, the horizontal plates will trap the fusel oils (long strain of ethanol molecules attached together). That's what gives people hangovers. That's why the cheep booze gives you hangovers... Cheap still.
Just make sure you clean it very good! The fusel oils gunk up... Like fruit roll ups...
Oh and one more note... Caustic cleans organics (bacteria etc) Acid cleans minerals (scales etc)
One more thing...
The highest alcohol % you can create from beer (mash) is 16% (under lab conditions)
The highest alcohol proof for just distilled booze is 198.6 proof. Although you can achieve 200 proof, but you have to use molecular sieve beeds. They trap the water molecules and let the longer ethanol molecules pass bye.
Good stuff, Tiny. Thanks!
Whiskey never judges. Whiskey only understands.
HA that needs to be on a shirt!
One great moment for me in my life was visiting with you when we first came out and sitting on your porch and having a drink with you.....after a hard days work. I loved it. Bless you Pastor and thank you for the wisdom. Shalom
We were a more sensible people back in the day when we paid the preacher in whiskey.
Love your video! Only reason I don't have vodka and Jack Daniel's is that I am still working on the food. Vodka will be next for medicine then more cheap booze. I know people will want it and the 350ml is the perfect size for barter. Large size for medical use only.
They also paid in tobacco.
@@barbarakegebein1800 Clear Springs is cheap and 95% pure grain alcohol. Much better, for medicinal use, than vodka.
@@JamesWoodard1222 thanks!
Hey PJF,
I've worked in a store selling beer and liquor so here are my thoughts.
1. No one buys Gin don't stock that.
2. Buy liquor only in glass because we know from history it will last a long time, plastic will degrade.
3. I wouldn't buy the expensive stuff I don't think you will get as much trade in return (%) as you will for cheaper stuff, I just don't see people being that picky.
Whiskey
Vodka
Rum
No mixers obviously.
You can buy big 1.75 liter bottles and a few small funnels and have a refill "program" for the airplane baby bottles. It's a know size and set cost to refill. This is my plan
Oh and cigarettes get stale.
My 2 cents.
Vodka makes for herbal tinctures so is good to have on hand.
I've got vodka-elderberry tincture at the house right now ! You are so right.!
I’d have to agree. In general, basic ethanol has so many practical uses that the ability to distill the stuff seems to me like a winning proposition all the way around. And all you really need for making it, other than equipment, is starch, yeast and water. POOF! Alcohol!
saved me a comment everclear too but expensive
Vodka is good because it is roughly 50% water and 50% alcohol. Most plants have both water soluble and alcohol soluble parts. Some parts are soluble with one but not both; thus the benefit of using Vodka if you want to extract all of the plant.
However some plants have little if any water soluble parts. Take for instance Usnea lichen because it is an exception (regardless of what you might be being taught by uninformed "herbalists") to Vodka being a good medium because almost none of Usnea (if any at all) is water soluble. Thus for proper processing you need to use Everclear to process Usnea properly.
Note: Some states have different Everclear. It used to be (maybe still is) that Montana was one of the best places to purchase Everclear because it was not diluted as it is in other states - like Washington State.
Most well experienced/educated herbalists will not use whiskey or bourbon or ... .
Rotgut Moonshine from home production is probably a good choice IF it is diluted to be about 50/50 water and alcohol.
I've wondered parasites like alcohol, so tinctures help or harm parasites?
We make a brew called locally as 'block and tackle'. Drink a glass, walk a block and you're ready to tackle anything. 👍🍻
i love that
If you are Viking, you should be drinking mead!
Easy as shit to make😂
A shot of whiskey was worth a 44 colt bullet back in the wild west.
I started collecting Jack Daniels many years ago for bartering. I am constantly having to restock up on it though. I had heard it goes bad about every 6 months 😊
Yes Sir you have to rotate the stock. Bring in the new and drink the old stuff😂
Keep it kool, dry, in dark and it will last for 5-20 years. Ya never seen 'aged 25' years... Biggest issue is the Angels Share it evaporates. Does not go bad, the angels drink it!
The Lord delivered me from Alcohol a few years back,it nearly killed me, I don't sit here in judgment about this subject, its just that some of us are weaker in this area. I personally would not barter something that would make my brother stumble just to save my own flesh.
theron farrer Not sure why he put this on RUclips 🤔 How many Brothers and Sisters May stumble listening to this. I’m also sober and in my 60’s and see lots of my Christian friends being lukewarm and living deeper in the world. Don’t see how drinking,smoking pot, doing drugs can help with anyone’s walk toward Jesus. But everyone has a choice.
theron farrer Amen !!!
@@gampy5445 I think I'm of the same train of thought, I wouldn't have a problem bartering it to someone who I thought would drink responsibly but I have a bit of an issue with this whole notion of stocking up on it because some are addicted and will move mountains to get it.
Nothing to add on booze.
Games. Card decks. Chess boards etc. Nobody thinks about how to fill time.
Just thinking out of the box.
Like a friend once said, keep a mason jar of shine under the kitchen sink, it's medicine for when your sick or not.
Yes on the card decks. Gotta keep the gamblers and cheaters well equipped
Musical instruments too. Mandolins, guitars, harmonicas, drums, you name it. People will be bored and will want entertainment
1 Timothy 5:23, Stop drinking only water and use a little wine instead, because of your stomach and your frequent ailments. NIV
Nothing wrong with a little as long as you can maintain proper bearing.
When the Bible says no fermented...? what does this mean?
@@peggyhall5363 I do not recall where it says that, but when Paul said wine I am inclined to think two things; 1) alcohol as a rule is not mistranslated, 2) there are benefits to light alcohol consumption.
I won't pretend that wine in that time wasn't any stronger than a low content wine-cooler of today. But a little self-control can bring a little benefit...rest for your weary bones being the most obvious. But also Paul says this about all things in general: "“All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything." 1 Corinthians 6:12 ESV.
I am thinking your looking at the old testament if I had to guess, I am not a Jew so I do not live according to it. Only the principles that are reiterated in the New Testament.
@@peggyhall5363 Oh and cheeses and many vinegar's are fermented, many nutrients are made available to us through fermentation. Not sure why God would be against it except in the case of poor cooking practices.
@@optimisticallyskeptical1842 I have no clue. Just thought you might have insight. Thanks.
@@peggyhall5363 Yep, as far I know, fermented products are not forbidden, the Jews were limited to unleavened bread during Passover, which may be due to fact that they were on the move out of Egypt and could not take the time to let it rise. Otherwise, it seems that leavened bread is quite normal for the Jewish community. So it is likely just a remembrance thing that they adhere to unleavened bread.
As far as fermented foods go, your intestinal track keeps many microbes that break down your food so you can get the nutrients you need to live. Fermented foods such as vinegar and sauerkraut and cottage cheese are known as pre-biotics that help to nourish those microbes and help keep out the not-so-good microbes. Drinking a light amount of a vinegar and water solution is thought to be a great aid to your intestinal health which may show in your overall health and well-being. But science is still evolving on that issue. If you are interested to try it, I make a 12 oz glass of water with 1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar and two tablespoons of lemon and drink it occasionally. It is a strong taste, but I cannot swear to its effect, only that I actually do "feel" healthy but cannot attribute it to vinegar. If your interested in finding out more, just do a search for "Drinking Apple Cider Vinegar".
I do Vodka for storage. It seems a good all around booze, cleaner, wound sanitizer.
I think Vodka would appeal to more people. It can be mixed with anything for individual tastes and as you said can also be a cleanser, a cure for poison ivy, mosquito repellent, kills mold, soothes jellyfish stings, can be used to extract oil from flowers and herbs. Its a great barter item for sure!
Everclear is higher content. I reccomend it, as it could be diluted and makes better tinctures. Highly flammable too.
Seeds, shovels, rake, axes, nails, and other things people will need to start. Silver, small silver coins. Plastic sheets, on and on. If doesn't use electricity it would be worth having around.
I like the first items you mention, but I have had friends that collected precious metals and it always boggled my mind. Who sets value for it when everything has collapsed? I think its better to have some farm animals and crop skills. These are renewable resources that bring direct benefit. Precious metals and stones just look pretty, they can't bring you any direct benefit in SHTF. If Someone wanted to pay me with that I would laugh my tail end off and walk away.
@@optimisticallyskeptical1842 I completely agree. If a man offers me a gold coin or a chicken Im taking the chicken.
Yep! Grab the old time two man saws, different forms of axes ,chisels and so forth at farm auction , these are the things that build a community when it all falls apart,it will 3.5 years of hell on earth, peace! House of kenosis
And let ever man have a house ,a cow ,some chickens , no more houses connected to another house, no more building a house for someone else to live in ie buying and selling , no more usury from the banks , no more universal church of satanic manipulation "cat licker"
Might as well plan on taking over a Home Depot store. LOL. Gold and silver is for people who read too many doomer fantasy books. In reality, a loaf of bread is worth more than it's weight in gold, to a hungry person.
Also, most people who store seeds, have never raised a garden.
Just look at history events in the past 200 years. Best barter items have always been; Booze, salt, sugar, soap and other hygiene items. All first necessity items that can't be produced or obtained locally, will be very valuable in a true, long term SHTF scenario. You can also trade your skills and time for items you need.
Gasoline will probably be the number one commodity here in the US because cities are spread out and nothing is within walking distance. This is why having a small, economical motorcycle like a KLR-650 or even a small moped will be a life saver. Good luck finding enough fuel for your super bug out 4x4 truck that gets 10 MPG.
Whiskey and/or Rum are my choice,
but as a multi use item, Vodka is king
A Christian brother who isn't a self-righteous twit when it comes to alcohol you don't see that very often.
Good video thanks Pastor Joe and M.M. I traded a bottle of whiskey for some 2" elm boards, so i could finish my kitchen. We are able to distill 30 liters/65 pints per year for personal consumption but this is the Highlands of Scotland after all.
There's a book "Alcohol can be a gas" -- you can create your own alchohol for fuel to run your tractors, generators and vehicles..booze ain't just for drinking.. and bartering ain't just for "grid down situations"
That book is Steven Harris approved. 10/10 would recommend as he's THE subject matter expert.
Still have to get a fuel making license from government. To do it legal. Then they can check you out whenever. I think.
@@sonnyschaak8996 so if i don't get a license i won't be checked out? and presumably the licence costs too?
i'll take my chances..
@@puremusicdaz i agree with ya. But being he not going to illegally distill whiskey. I meant he's probably not going to do fuel either. But in general yeah I encourage the people do what they want. f*** the government
@@puremusicdaz After doing research on my own, in most states you can freely make beer, no licensing needed, of course, its not a stretch to extend that to whiskey in a SHTF scenario, provided your location is secure. But yea, during probition they severely regulated the practice of making whiskey and other hard beverages with taxation.
Back in the day, a shot was one once drink. Also how as a shot glass.
Payment was one bullet.
Bullshit
I'm not too sure about buying it in plastic bottles.
Thomas Regner well the thumbnail is glass, so....
Keeps just fine in plastic bottles. Especially if the seal isn't broken.
Coffee is a great barter item. Ziplock it.
You can also make colloidal silver out of distilled water and 99.99% silver to barter. Easy to make and great medical uses external/internal uses works on animals as well.
Would you mind posting the recipe?
@@redrider7730 In most states (looking at you Florida), and in federal law, owning a still is not illegal, its what you make with it. Distilled water, and essential oils are not regulated by the federal gov't.
Thanks for sharing with us all. Same here 1 cocktail every night when the day is done. I started stocking up on my bartering supply. Nicotine lozenges, gum, patches, medications...everything that my health insurance will pay for. LOL
Its a 5th, 750ml. Of Tennessee hospitality
Cigarette lighters number one barter item.
How many do you have? I can imagine some people have thousands haha.
Stock up on cheap vodka , serious drinkers got to keep up the habit. Also find out what people whose services you might need (your doctor) like to drink.
I worked for a Doctor who was paid with shine just a few years ago! He was a good guy and shared with his staff😄
Here in Finland we have very easy to make beverage called "Kilju". Produced by fermenting sugar, yeast, and water. It´s sugar wine with alcohol content of 15-17%. You can make a patch in three days with "Turbo yeast". Taste varies from horrible to not-so-horrible. It grew in popularity during the economic depression that followed the Finnish banking crisis of the early 1990s.
Your idea is brilliant. I think booze in SHTF will be gold.
nutnsp3cial cigarettes too. People will make their own except the old stuff (current stuff) will be worth way way way more!
its against federal law to make moonshine. but missouri law it is perfectly legal.
a bearded guy should never stand next to the millennial man, no one can compete with that hair
You can ask any Chemist. Alcohol is a solution!!!
inside joke.
I would think pipe tobacco would be good to store up because it is recommended to jar up in masonry jars. An it ages well, and you can buy in bulk! Am a pipe smoker so that's why I mentioned it.
Tobacco would be great...good point! Hey I just made a SHTF video and would appreciate some feedback thanks!
I have 2 plus cases of various barter Booze same sizes as your Jack Danial's. Just good stuff to have when times get rough. I don't drink at all myself but someone may have something I need one day. As for the smokes I was told you can get roll your owns with papers pretty cheap. Store the tobacco in air tight pouches-(Vac seal)- not with the papers. To bring the tobacco back to life if dry, add in apple slices with it a few days to a week before use to hydrate the tobacco. Lemon or orange will also work but I hear it will give the tobacco a strange flavor. As for using a Vac seal during SHTF you can buy the Vac seal lid attachment (Walmart or just about anywhere) and seal in Mason jars using a hand held Brake bleeder pump from Harbor Freight. Works really well. Super cheap and no electric required! Thanks for the video!
Cannabis not only gets you stoned but it has a TON of objective, measurable medicinal effects as well.
Not to mention hemp's fiber can be used to make rope and fabric, and oil can be extracted to use as lubricants or even to make plastic. Oh and you can make paper with it too.
Cannabis is very versatile and not a bad idea for a SHTF material, whether you personally use it or not. Me personally I'd much rather have a bunch of stoned neighbors then a bunch of drunk neighbors in a bad situation
Love the channel. The square bottles are fifth's. The flask types are pints. Will definitely be valuable. Disagree about the cigarettes though. You could store probably a carton or more in a .50 Cal ammobox. They will keep for a long time unopened, and smokers will be so happy to see someone with packs of camels for trade they'll love you for it. I know, I smoked for twenty five years. Thanks for all of your insight.
I used to down that Makers bottle in 2 days... could not control drinking. Now I only smoke Cannabis and it saved my life.
In NC you can make it for "private consumption".... of course NC is the land of moonshiners and Nascar got its start out running the law...LOL...
A Croatian prepper spoke about how in the beginning of the troubles as the Yugoslavian republic split up, he and his family aquired a large quantity of rakija, a local alcoholic beverage. He said they were able to barter quite a bit with it and it was part of his preps now.
Not illegal to make beer and wine
cant sell it
will B Would bartering be considered selling in this case?
You are on the right track with 375ml bottles, however, I would suggest, and take it from this cowboy, that you should look for alcohol that is over 100 proof.
Yes, even for barter, over 100 proof alcohol can offer you more benifits than known.
As a cowboy, who has spent time on horseback in the deserts, I have learned a few things with 100 + proof alcohol.
1.) It becomes flammable, good fire starter.
2.) A better pain reliever
3.) A antiseptic for small to moderate wounds
4.) Entertainment
5.) It takes less to achieve a functional goal of intoxication
All 5 can be bartered differently in a SHTF scenario.
Great video, and good job on learning a new perspective!
Blantin's is the preferred bourbon of John Wick
Why, yes it is
I live through 2 martial laws in Miami the new gold became gasoline liquor and ammunition
Carhartt jackets are at there best when worn well. Make wine it's a little work and good for you
And most of them are still made in USA!
The 375mL is considered a pint and 750 mL is a fifth. I worked in an adult beverage store for 5 years. During that time I used my employee discount to my advantage by buying some booze and high end bourbons to put back for barter. I would recommend buying some 1500 mL /half gallons of the cheapest 100 proof vodka and 195 proof grain alcohol like Gem or Golden Grain that can be used to make extracts, tinctures, or used to start a fire. They can also be used as wound disinfectant, tool sterilization, and pain management in an emergeny medical situation.
That look in your eyes when someone was coming down the road was downright frosty
Alcohol. Many uses. Good for barter, drinking, antisepsis, and fuel.
In an SHTF era, alcohol, tobacco, and coffee will be in great demand. Moon-shine will be "legal" because there will not be law anyway. Tobacco lasts a long time, and can be purchased in 5 lbs bags, (I am a pipe smoker), and coffee will be hard to get when there are no imports coming into the USA.
"Shun not the mead, but drink in measure" Havalmal, Words of Odin The High One.
Alcohol has more uses than drinking. A still would be a powerful tool.
Pints are what most people would barter for, but you can even get those huge gallon jugs of cheap Vodka at places like Walmart and make a bunch of pints out of it. Would also work well for wound sanitizer and keeping minor cuts clean. Also if I was to ever do tobacco as a barter item it would be the Pre-packed Loose Pipe kind that could also be used to roll cigs as it has a much longer shelf life. Would also have some Rolling Papers in the mix in that case as there good for both Tobacco and Weed. And yes Weed will be huge after SHTF, especially when people realize just how many Medical Purposes it serves and how many health issues it can cure.
You don't look homeless, your looking like a young Willie Nelson. Thanks for the video.
Lol...hey I just made a shtf video and would appreciate some feedback thanks!
You can get a permit to produce alcohol to use as fuel. There is a requirement to taint the batch with the first portion containing methanol in order to make it in-consumable, essentially rubbing alcohol/isopropyl. This would allow for practice of distilling until shtf where you could then do what you have to. Alcohol is also great as an antiseptic.
R&R Reserve is $20 for a half gallon of Canadian Whiskey. We are using pint mason jars for canning food and can repackage the half gallon of Whiskey into them for bartering.
You spent way too much money. Buy off brand spirits, vodka and whiskey.
When push has come to shove, booze is booze and those who want it and more so those who "need" it won't care if its premium grade. They just want a drink and cheap stuff will do.
I keep cases of pints and half pints of inexpensive vodka (when mixed in a drink you can't tell what brand it is) same goes for whiskey.
Evan Williams costs less than Jack Daniels yet when mixed with a Coke and ice, it tastes the same.
Being a connoisseur after SHTF is not going to be too practical or fulfilling. Buy cheaper booze and more of it.
I used to work in a state controlled liquor store, and when those people who just had to have a drink came in, their calculation was *price first and then the alcohol percentage* everything else was unimportant.
@@ratroute8238 Yep even vanilla extract or cough syrup was used back yrs ago.
@@ginj5375 The cost of vanilla has gone sky-high in the last few months. Last year, a pint sold for $6-$8. This year, it's about $34. Perhaps the countries that grow vanilla beans are experiencing crop failures. Or maybe it's due to high tariffs. And for those people who plan to make beer, beware of the floods in the food belt. Many farmers will see no harvest this year. So, plan on corn prices rising. It's amazing (no pun intended) the many ways we use corn. Check out this pdf I found online yesterday:
healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/products-that-use-corn.pdf
Keep looking up. Be the salt and light in SHTF. Therefore, have salt and matches for barter.
I don't matches would cut it, How about tons of bic lighters? hahaha
Matches run out " hot coals".
Don't forget that booze will have value as an antiseptic as well. I caught a sale one time and picked up several family-sized bottles of mouth wash for that same reason, it had fairly high alcohol content. Oh and you can order all kinds of empty containers in all different sizes, both plastic and glass, for repackaging your booze into smaller units. LOL, you can make that boring (repackaging) chore go easier by sampling the product! Thanks pastor!
When times get tough Booze is liquid Gold.
GOLD!!! lol. Hey I just made my first shtf video and would appreciate some feedback thanks!
According to Selco, the guy who survived in a city under siege for a year during the Bosnia War, if he had to do it all over again he'd invest in cigarette lighters as a barter item. Small, compact, lightweight, and worth their weight in gold for those who don't know how to make fire in the absence of natural gas and electricity.
For the little bottles look during holidays. There are usually samples bottles on bigger bottles. Over the years we have stocked up on tons of little bottles that way.
Where I live the three size bottles you have are called a sample (2 shots), a mickey, and a 26er.
Let a smoker go without a cigarette all day and you will have someone willing to trade a 20rd box of 5.56 ammo for that 5yr old stale cigarette pack. No truer words have ever been said!
for real though coffee is gold when you dont have any and so is salt creamer and sugar . you could get a hand gun for a cup of coffe of the right cowboy , they got so many guns they can buy coffe with them
Agreed. MREDepot has canned raw beans. Learn to roast and get a grinder. Canned beans last 20 years. Longer if kept in a cold location.
In the movie Hotel Rwanda, alcohol was used for bartering. It literally bought them more time in the hotel and protection.
You are correct, making any concentrated liquor is illegal without a federal license. Even freezing store bought liquor and filtering out the water crystals to concentrate the alcohol is illegal.
One thing that people forget about all the time for long-term Preps. Aluminum foil. There is so many uses for aluminum foil. You can get huge rolls at Costco very cheap for about 10 bucks. Get a couple rolls of that they will last you for years. Aluminum foil is absolutely amazing. Not only for cooking for many many many uses.
Buy a huge bag of tobacco for $5 and vacume seal it.
I've got tabbacco from 12 years ago that was vacuum sealed and its just fine.
Couple that with a few packs of rolling papers for 50 cents each and you have something very valuable in SHTF
Really that long good to know
@@jarretmoore3858
Yes, just keep it in a cool dark place. Throw a couple oxygen absorbers in it and it'll last even longer.
@@RicArmstrong thanks
Cigarettes can be frozen and that keeps them fresh for an indefinite length of time. There is a RUclips guy that reviews all kinds of old MRE's and smokes the cigarettes from old rations and claims they are fine. When I was a smoker I used to keep my cartons in the freezer and can say from experience it works. Just storing smokes in cool dry place makes them last much longer. Personally I would rather store food in my freezer, but, a smoker may think different. This comment is probably a waste of our time but FYI is almost always a good thing in my humble opinion. I believe cooking oils, and, just vegetable oils in general, will be scarce in a SHTF situation and would make a great barter item. They seem to store well for the most part. Love the liquor idea its one I've not realized or thought of til now. Thanks for the info. Tobacco for roll your own cigarettes or even raw tobacco may be an idea
I would suggest for the purpose of SHTF bartering that "lower shelf" spirits would be your best bet. Less expensive beverages like Old Crow, Ancient Age, etc. Of course a top shelf bourbon like Maker's Mark will still have a lot of appeal. I think a lot of people during SHTF would like to feel at least a pleasant "buzz" while reminiscing about the world they lost. Good video Pastor Joe. I'm sipping a middle shelf bourbon as I enjoy your video. :)
Soap, sugar and salt are the best for bartering. They last forever and the last two can be measured in small amounts.
Good to see you back with a video. You can produce "shine" as long as it is for personal consumption. I have many friends who do, whiskey, wine, beer, all sorts of alcohol. I made friends with a liquor sales rep and did some barter to get a supply of spirits several years ago. Those folks can get cases of the airline bottle "samples" for free to ....a...hand out. R
As a general rule, I don't buy items with the intention of bartering them. I buy for the consumption of me and mine. I stack deeper, the things I know/think we'll need. If there's some other need that circumstance throws in our path, I'm hopeful that the extra we do have will interest those we seek to trade with. At the very least we won't be left with something we don't want/can't use, that we wasted our finite resources on.
The good thing about hoarding booze for barter is, if there if no market for it, you can always drink it.
Alcohol is long-term storage. Tobacco is short-term storage. Make sure your alcohol is in glass. Plastic containers indicate cheap. Stills are easy to make as long as you have a Pressure cooker and gas stove. Beer and wine is legal to home-make.
The small bottles of liquor are a great idea for barter. At most liquor stores, if you buy these small bottles by the dozen, they are somewhat cheaper. They can be stored forever if unopened. And because of the size they are easy to transport. And during times of unrest and other civil disturbance over a period of time, liquor will be very high on the barter list. I would call it a no brainer.
The time watching this video 2 different song lyris kept going through my head. "Put some whiskey in your water, sugar in your tea..." And "them good ole boys were drinkin whiskey and rye..."
An old Uncle used to tell a story about the men that built the church in our small town, back in the day.
I guess at that time you could only buy a limited quantity of whiskey per day, so every morning they would send a guy, on a horse, to a neighboring town for whiskey, and they would drink all day as they built the church.
Well the women of the church did not like this, they showed up one afternoon, and told the men that they would not like their church built by a bunch of drunks.
The men said ok, picked up their tools and went home.
After a few days, the women realized their mistake, and had to go around and apologize to the men, and beg them to come back to work.
You can have a still if you get a License from the ATF AND you only produce alcohol as a Fuel. So, mostly, its for Farmers because they can convert their waste products into something that can be Fermented and turned into Fuel for the Farm. So, Yes, you can own a still on your farm, Rev.
You could buy cheap stuff in bulk, and re-bottle into smaller packages. And possibly "cut" the booze with water,if it's particularly high in alcohol content.
Regarding cigarettes, as long as they are kept sealed, in a good cool, dry place, they will last for a long time. They are $60 a carton here, so $6 a pack. Definitely a good barter item. BUT, being able to grow tobacco for pipes after SHTF will be the way to go. Being able to sit on the porch, pack a little into the pipe and have a few puffs is just... relaxing. Yeah, I know it's not good for you, but many of us love it. Again, moderation.
I know where I am at in Texas, having had multiple TABC classes and friends in law enforcement, it is my understanding that one can make roughly 250 gallons of alcohol weather that is wine or liquor per year for personal consumption without having to have a license. And I know a multitude of people who are making wine Mead moonshine bourbon vodka and other Spirits at home. The local brew supply stores actually sell commercial versions of small stills.
I actually started thinking about this idea after seeing your video about barter items and then thinking about items that have multiple uses which a still can be used to make distilled water and liquor and liquor can be used to make barter or for medicinal. I'm not really a big drinker but a nice glass a bourbon at the end of the day can be seen in my hand from time to time. Your ideas stockpiling the small bottles is not a bad idea. What I have been doing is buying the bigger bottles because of the better price per ounce and then subdividing it into smaller mason jars.
80 Proof plus is good for disinfecting wounds and can work as an anesthesia in a pinch.. Pastor just for reference Small bottles are Pints, Medium are Fifths, and the big boy is a Gallon..
As the old Jimmy Rodger's song goes, "Bring me a pint of booze and a John B. Stetson hat".
Alcohol is always a smart idea, you just have to keep a few things in mind. Mainly because everyone's situation/set up in different. One, get what you like unless you want to keep yourself from drinking. For most people this will not be an issue, but for other it might. Two, is getting the appropriate sizes. If it is just for you save your money and buy big. If it is for barter then the smaller the better. If it is for bugging out then you have to go small. Fluids are heavy so if you have to carry it on your back then the 1.5 once bottles work well. Three, Plastic is not an oxygen barrier and the alcohol will break down over time. If this will be setting for a while then get glass. Four, UV radiation is death to alcohol so keep it out of the sun. This happens faster with dark liquors. Five, major temperature changes can cause alcohol to go bad as well. The lower the proof the faster this happens. Six, the higher the proof the better the liquor. When you purchase alcohol at a high enough proof you will find some interesting additions to the use. You will use far less meaning it will last longer. High enough proof can be used as fuel in a vehicle. Sanitation uses are greatly extended. There is also using it as a weapon, meaning that the higher the proof the easier it is to ignite. Guess that's it for now, good luck everyone.
Oh, before I forget. You mentioned cigarettes as a barter item, but had no way to preserve them. Here are the two easiest ways. Either vacuum seal packs of cigarettes (preferable to get non-filtered due to price), or purchase the cans of tobacco and have some papers for people to roll there own. The cans are usually vacuum sealed so no additional steps need to be taken.
Hope this helps you folks out there, bye.
You can produce beer and wine fairly cheap and it’s completely legal to do so. Perhaps something to look at, storing bottles of it to barter with in a grid down situation.
Be sure to drink with the grain folks. Drinking against the grain causes things to go sideways
In 9th grade we each had to distill alcohol for a lab project. I'm ready for shtf. 😎
From the quick googling I did, it seems to be legal to own a still but not to make booze with it. You could can legally own it just for decoration, or for distilling water or essential oils. You can however get a "A Federal Fuel Alcohol Permit" which is supposedly easy to get, you just aren't supposed to drink what you distill then. But if you had that you could definitely stock up on booze legally, saying that you are simply storing your fuel.
Like with any business, buy in bulk and spread out your inventory into small packages to sell for markup. So 1 big bottle can fill up a lot of little bottles. Each of those little bottles are your currency in SHTF. Keep your bulk booze in storage.
Yea, booze is a lot cheaper on base due to the fact that there is no excise tax. One of the perks of being active/retired military or a family member. Thankyou for your service to our country.
Tobacco should be stored via seeds. Alcohol can be stored in bulk quantity and distributed in smaller containers for barter, or celebration.smaller bottles generally = less for your money.
Haha...the thumbnail for this video is great PJ
1/2 pint. pint. jack bottle is a fifth or 750ml. bigger bottle is a handle or 1.75 liters. for storage, buy glass bottles. itll last longer and when ur finished w the booze, u can use the bottle for other things. oh, and if u want a real treat, get some bulleit rye. mmm delicious. have a good one folks
I became a scotch snob in my youth. Then kids came along and I rediscovered how much I like wild turkey. I also used to think you had to finish the bottle in a week after opening...then kid's college came along and I rediscovered how much I like stale whiskey in coke...it's all relative...kids cause reality checks... medical checks, tuition checks...
There’s a reason there is a BATF. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Three seemingly unrelated items, yet, all highly sought after in Black markets the world around and throughout history. Not a coincidence thinks I . . .
Pruno for everyone when it hits the fan...
Condoms and feminine hygiene products are also good bartering items.
Yep, I've been buying barter booze for years. Not the good stuff I drink (Turkey 101 and Eagle Rare), but the $5.99 a fifth stuff you can buy by the case without breaking the budget (nobody will care when that's all they can get). As to stills, I have cousins in eastern Tennessee who have those special "gas" tanks in their trucks and they do just fine.
In Oklahoma, you can get a license to make ETHANOL, which is made through the same process as making alcohol. When making ETHANOL at the end of the process where you have about 50 gallons of your distilled alcohol in a 55-gallon barrel, you add one to three gallons of unleaded gasoline to the barrel and that makes it become classified as ETHANOL. That's what I have read. Now, onto bartering liquor. I would be very cautious about this because if you don't have a liquor license to sell liquor, you can be arrested for bootlegging because you don't have a license to resale and you should be collecting state and federal taxes. Now to say that you are not selling, but simply bartering, is a far stretch, as the argument will go that you are bartering or trading items of equal or comparative value. Again you are receiving compensation (money or other items of value) for the liquor which is state and federal controlled and requires a license and requires the collection of taxes. Not to burst your bubble or your good intentions, but the only legitimate way I can see alcohol being exchanged between one another would be in the form of a gift, such as Christmas gift, Birthday gift, Holiday gift, Anniversary gift, Graduation gift, Job Promotion gift, Vacation gift, Cinco De mayo gift, Veterans Day gift, New Years Day gift, Columbus Day gift, Memorial Day gift, Daytona 500 Day gift, Talladega 500 gift, Halloween Trick or Treet gift, Valentine's Day gift, Green/Peace Day gift, Yankee vs Red Sox Day gift, Grandma's funeral day gift, and there are certainly many other legitimate days for exchanging gifts among friends that do not require a license or the collection of taxes. I don't believe gifting requires any special wrapping paper or gift cards. It might be advisable to place a small tag around the neck of the bottle that says GIFT for those bottles that are in inventory.
Making moonshine is a good idea, except it takes a lot of grains or corn and sugar, so you would need a large stock pile before SHTF
Anything vice related is going to give you the best ROI when it comes to bartering in a SHTF scenario. Baby formula.......when supermarkets and drugs stores have to lock it up, it's definitely worth something.