When I was first starting to build, the old timer that was teaching me said that exact line to me. But it went like this. Stephan, you are like lighting with that hammer! Thanks so much! I was super encouraged. Lightning never strikes the same spot twice. Oh :/ I was super discouraged, but it motivated me to not hear that line again.
Well it does in the sense that i would never use a metal handle if i was doing this all day, nothing absorbs impact like good ole american hickory or ash wood in general
@@tack3411 You're right but that's it, titanium Transfers up to 97% of the energy directly to the nail. We're as steel hammer only transfers about 70%. Which means less felt vibration with a titanium hammer and fewer swings to pound a nail.
So my line of work affords me a lot of gun range time. Me and my co-workers are always talking crap about our shooting abilities. Just know; your "Stormtrooper" comment will become my primary 💩 talking line moving forward! Thanks for sharing...🤣😭😂‼️
He is changing hammers each time, as a pseudo blacksmith but full time fabricator, if you change anything about my hammers or my tig torch it will throw me off for the first hour or two. Also framing is not precise and hammers in general aren’t precise
In the 70s it was the Plumb 28 oz rigging axe, in the 80s the original Hart Framer in the 90s the original Douglas titanium, in the 2000s the Stiletto hammer. Since I’m semi retired now I can’t tell you about the newer Martinez hammers.
I read the second one as fart hammer and had myself a good chuckle , as a plumber i use hammers but usually only to break cast iron pipe into manageable chunks.
Own the stilletto but prefer the martinez. It's top heavy like those oldschool ones. Just feels better for hitting shit with. Mind you I don't really need to use my hammer as a hammer all that much. Use the claw as a pry bar more than anything. Maybe a little tappa tappa here and there. But sheit, most of those times too i just use the nail gun already in my hand 😂
Young guy here(23 (licensed GC and carpenter)) Started on a Eswing (from my carpenter grandfather), bought my first wood handled 14oz stiletto within my first year, bought the TB3 had it for a few months, used my buddy’s M1 and I was hooked. Bought both the m1 waffle face and the m4 dimple face to switch up between framing and everything else. Nobody needs $400 hammers… however, if my Martinez got stolen, I’d immediately go out and buy another.
I’ve always rocked the Vaughans. They are cheap enough that I can buy several to keep in different tool boxes or trucks. When I loose them it’s not a huge deal. I also appreciate that their brand has been around for like 200 years. If I was really gunna get into production framing I’d probably buy a Stiletto or something fancy just for my tool belt. I’d still have the Vaughans conveniently stashed places. Lately I’ve been doing drywall and I hardly use the hatchet enough to want a fancy one.
Vaughans are badass!! I just got a 19oz to try out and I’ve used it all week let me tell you … I’ll be using them for good now I just tossed my 28oz dewalt 😂 even if it’s not vaughn I’m gonna be using a curved wood handled hammer for the rest of my life/career
Your swinging technique is important when framing all day. You can swing any hammer. It's just the hammer that you like and enjoy. I've had using a 14 oz Setletto for 25 years.
It's still an extension of your body. A Carpenter's Hammer is like Harry Potter and his Wand. A Samurais Sword. A Cowboys Horse. "This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine..."
I enjoyed it and to all you haters out there.. you get your butts out there and record yourself and not make mistakes. I be over the moon to let ya frame our house.
I commend you for your bravery. Any social media post involving a skill or trade always gets the "ive been doing this for 1200 years and you suck" typs comments and they get so annoying.
In my experience, you want a $40-$60 hammer. You want something well balanced with a good comfortable grip, but beyond that it's just a waste of money. The only difference between a $40 ox and a $300 stiletto is the stiletto is less tiring to swing all day, but on the other side of that, it's also not going to build as much muscle.
California framer used hickory handles and when the hammer head was returned, i would keep the handles for the BBQ, and i went through a lot of hammers in my 23yrs of carpentering
The true test of a hammer isn't done over a few minutes, it's done over a few years. And even then, it comes down to preference. Those who have never tasted grapes should not say sour, and something as intimate as a carpenters hammer cannot be tasted so briefly - it's true capabilities only understood over a long career.
As I got older I developed a form of arthritis between my thumb and forefinger where you grip a hammer. Going with a stiletto was worth every penny to ease the stress on my hand.
Let’s be honest , is everyone fucking hammering tf out’ve a nail everytime or?? Because Im a carpenter and i own a M1 . never have I ever sledged tf out’ve a nail like that.
After using a nail gun of all sorts for years, I’m not sure I can hammer a nail with accuracy anymore. 😢 The closest I do now is to use a nail set to sink a few raised finish nail heads.
Umm,Eastwing is mine of choice.I never work with anyone unless they have one as well.I have the same Eastwing for years and find they are the most balanced and don't tear up tour wrist. BACK IN THE DAY,the old timers would call those 'mule kicks' on the lumber with those hammer dents.I use that term with newbies and make sure they strive to avoid making them as it shows pride in your work by not having them.
Give a framer 6 different hammers and they will all do this for 2 reasons. A. Someone is watching and ready to give them shit. B. If they never miss with theirs, now the are micro adjusting for all these different hammer.
Moral of the story, just what you like or fits in your hand best, love the look of a delluge or older framing hammers, but that dewalt is fine for a starters. Or go classic with an estwing
You hit the nail on the head... That one time. All jokes aside your better than me and probably most of the people giving you a hard time that never swung a hammer. Not as easy as it looks till you been at it a while.
Bruh I grew up on a framing crew. You didn’t even get bags until you set and sink. Long before stillettos we’re even a thing. You had a 19 oz Vaughn wooden handle or if you weren’t afraid of tendinitis you’d have the 23oz steel Vaughn. Nowadays at 50 years old I can’t quite beat a nail gun, but I’m pretty close. Work on your stroke son. And not just the one that ends up in a sock.
You still gotta set the nails with a hammer unless you're dookie, if you set your nails to shoot deeper on your wood you're missing the reason for the fastener and effectively reducing the shear load because only half the board is being held from shooting it too deep, even if you shoot it a little bit deep you still have to mar and compress the material around the nail, point is you still need to smack that spot with a hammer lol it sets the nails. These aren't pin nails, they're 8d framing nails
@@predatorysage1 bullshit🤣🤣🤣 you don't have to do every single one but work speaks for itself, good luck with your creeky ass walls and roofs and decks and floors. Oh and not to forget your stairs are probably the creekiest mofos around lmao
I could go all day with my 23oz California framer. it was guaranteed for life and I would pick up the broken handles from the other carpenters and get a new one so I always had more than handy. that hammer was SET, DRIVE all day long
One guy had the steel 23oz Vaughan at least I think it’s steel. If it is steel that guy is like me, broke😂 I have a 22oz framing estwing my dad has had his estwing for 30 years and it performs like it’s brand new so I got myself one and I love that steel is still a thing. 👍
And Bushnell? I can take a picture of the old Hebron factory right now. Standing in my yard, can hear the building humming. Asians make sauces and bottle them there now.
The best hammer is the one you like. Im not saying the following as an insult, the tools today are far healthier for the body. But I always get a good laugh at younger carpenters. They get to use pneumatics more than we ever did in the past so it always looks always a little cringe seeing them hit nails. Im just imagining him doing trim work 😅😅
They call you lightning because you never strike the same place twice.
😂😂😂
😂😂
😂😅😂 glad someone else said it
When I was first starting to build, the old timer that was teaching me said that exact line to me.
But it went like this.
Stephan, you are like lighting with that hammer!
Thanks so much! I was super encouraged.
Lightning never strikes the same spot twice.
Oh :/
I was super discouraged, but it motivated me to not hear that line again.
😂👏
Moral of the story is it doesn't fucking matter
Well it does in the sense that i would never use a metal handle if i was doing this all day, nothing absorbs impact like good ole american hickory or ash wood in general
After a few 10s of thousands of swings it does. Titanium is totally worth it.. Well maybe not the 260$ t-bone
@@travisdoe4663if handle feels nice, there ya go. Only thing that actually matters is saving your bones
@@tack3411 You're right but that's it, titanium Transfers up to 97% of the energy directly to the nail. We're as steel hammer only transfers about 70%. Which means less felt vibration with a titanium hammer and fewer swings to pound a nail.
@@travisdoe4663 that’s fine but in the context of how much your hand feels I’m not sure the 20% would make enough difference to justify the cost
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
- Wayne Gretzky
- Michael Scott
In his case he misses 50% of the shots he does take
0% fail rate if you never shoot!
The problem is that he also misses 75% of the shots that he does take lol 😂
They say it works better when you actually hit the damn nail
Dang you miss more than a storm trooper! 😂
This comment deserves and award for best comment of the year!
This is such an ancient overused joke 🤣
So my line of work affords me a lot of gun range time. Me and my co-workers are always talking crap about our shooting abilities. Just know; your "Stormtrooper" comment will become my primary 💩 talking line moving forward! Thanks for sharing...🤣😭😂‼️
He is changing hammers each time, as a pseudo blacksmith but full time fabricator, if you change anything about my hammers or my tig torch it will throw me off for the first hour or two. Also framing is not precise and hammers in general aren’t precise
And about 70% of the ones he does 😅
Hey I am an older finish carpenter and I think you are a smart young carpenter with a bright future! Keep up the good work Jared!
Moral of the story. Doesnt matter which hammer you have if your aim sucks.
Hold the hammer at bottom of handle /shaft , that's the reason for the long handle 👍keep practicing young fella , we all started missing nails
Making these boards look like cottage cheese
In the 70s it was the Plumb 28 oz rigging axe, in the 80s the original Hart Framer in the 90s the original Douglas titanium, in the 2000s the Stiletto hammer. Since I’m semi retired now I can’t tell you about the newer Martinez hammers.
I read the second one as fart hammer and had myself a good chuckle , as a plumber i use hammers but usually only to break cast iron pipe into manageable chunks.
Own the stilletto but prefer the martinez.
It's top heavy like those oldschool ones. Just feels better for hitting shit with.
Mind you I don't really need to use my hammer as a hammer all that much.
Use the claw as a pry bar more than anything.
Maybe a little tappa tappa here and there. But sheit, most of those times too i just use the nail gun already in my hand 😂
Nothing beats the framing hatchet
Young guy here(23 (licensed GC and carpenter)) Started on a Eswing (from my carpenter grandfather), bought my first wood handled 14oz stiletto within my first year, bought the TB3 had it for a few months, used my buddy’s M1 and I was hooked. Bought both the m1 waffle face and the m4 dimple face to switch up between framing and everything else. Nobody needs $400 hammers… however, if my Martinez got stolen, I’d immediately go out and buy another.
I've been a carpenter for 35 years and my 2 estwing hammers have never let me down 👍
I’ve always rocked the Vaughans. They are cheap enough that I can buy several to keep in different tool boxes or trucks. When I loose them it’s not a huge deal. I also appreciate that their brand has been around for like 200 years. If I was really gunna get into production framing I’d probably buy a Stiletto or something fancy just for my tool belt. I’d still have the Vaughans conveniently stashed places. Lately I’ve been doing drywall and I hardly use the hatchet enough to want a fancy one.
Vaughans are badass!! I just got a 19oz to try out and I’ve used it all week let me tell you … I’ll be using them for good now I just tossed my 28oz dewalt 😂 even if it’s not vaughn I’m gonna be using a curved wood handled hammer for the rest of my life/career
The one thing that I have learned from your most informative video is that it is hard to scare a nail into the wood 😂
Your swinging technique is important when framing all day. You can swing any hammer. It's just the hammer that you like and enjoy. I've had using a 14 oz Setletto for 25 years.
It's 2024... use a nail gun. My hammer only comes out to fix something or pull a nail.
Some of us are poor
It's still an extension of your body.
A Carpenter's Hammer is like Harry Potter and his Wand.
A Samurais Sword.
A Cowboys Horse.
"This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine..."
@maxnovakovics2568 very well said, you ain't a real carpenter unless you can swing a hammer accurately and efficiently🙌🏽💯
This foo a trim carpenter
@@BMCKINN7good carpenters make $50+ an hr😂
You ckoked the shit out of that Vaughan! 😂 I've driven miles on that!
That was one of my favorite hammers, 22oz wood handle Vaughn, nice balance
Damn hammer strikes were like lighting. Never the same spot. 😂
Bro hammers like Napoleon. He likes to surround the enemy before he attacks😅
I enjoyed it and to all you haters out there.. you get your butts out there and record yourself and not make mistakes. I be over the moon to let ya frame our house.
I framed up more houses than both of you been alive
@@staggdegraaff1531lol.. drugs are bad..
@scottward2366 Yeah, they should quit doing them
@@staggdegraaff1531 lol.. I was talking bout you... Your comment makes no sense man
@scottward2366 well I don't have construction paper and crayons to explain it to you. So figure it out
Good thing those nails don't hit back. I think he was offering them peace offerings.
I like a few warning shots to get them nice and scared 👌
It's not the hammer, it's the handler😂
I commend you for your bravery. Any social media post involving a skill or trade always gets the "ive been doing this for 1200 years and you suck" typs comments and they get so annoying.
In my experience, you want a $40-$60 hammer. You want something well balanced with a good comfortable grip, but beyond that it's just a waste of money. The only difference between a $40 ox and a $300 stiletto is the stiletto is less tiring to swing all day, but on the other side of that, it's also not going to build as much muscle.
Thank god they invented nail-guns, this guy would struggle without lol. We all got to start somewhere.
It's not really about being comparable if you can't handle, the full handle on each. But good comparison on what you can handle!
Those stilleto hammers work beautifully, Martinez too.
As a Mexican, we could practice to Nail it with 2 hits with any hammer 😂❤
I was actually down in Mexico installing drywall one time and a guy there was just hammering the sheetrock screws in 😅
Your work sucks
You could, but you wouldn’t because you’re on your third siesta of the day and it’s only 1PM.
6oz trim hammer?!
As a Mexican. 🤦🏼♂️
For driving nails I prefer the hickory handle 14 oz stiletto. Driving is fun and will save your arm in the long run. Retired 20 year carpenter.
California framer used hickory handles and when the hammer head was returned, i would keep the handles for the BBQ, and i went through a lot of hammers in my 23yrs of carpentering
When I go from a 22 to a 15 my first couple swings look like that too
I use a 28 I can use anything lighter
Ok young one…..every time you miss you create a damaged piece of framing. Buy a nail gun . Get a mentor not a hammer
@@Juanmorsay7894 I'm 46 dipshit,it's called muscle memory
@Juanmorsay7894 I'm 46 dumbass,muscle memory is a thing.
The true test of a hammer isn't done over a few minutes, it's done over a few years. And even then, it comes down to preference. Those who have never tasted grapes should not say sour, and something as intimate as a carpenters hammer cannot be tasted so briefly - it's true capabilities only understood over a long career.
I break wooden handles to often. To top heavy for me as well
Bo having a hard time hitting the nail😂😂you know he ain't got no girl
It's not the hammer... It's the operator.
20 OZ Vaughn 999 wood handle, best hammer I've found
Yaaaaaas sir
Vaughn Blue Max, straight handle. You can keep the titanium.
As I got older I developed a form of arthritis between my thumb and forefinger where you grip a hammer. Going with a stiletto was worth every penny to ease the stress on my hand.
Let’s be honest , is everyone fucking hammering tf out’ve a nail everytime or?? Because Im a carpenter and i own a M1 . never have I ever sledged tf out’ve a nail like that.
Geuss you weren't a piece work Framer in the 90's😊
@@jayframes4967 no I’m only 26 😂😂
The m1 only needed one hit when he actually hit it. Crazy good but crazy price
We ABSOLUTELY 💯 NEED a remake!!!**** Slow down giving better more accurate hits for sure but very small difference when it comes down to it
In 1985 when I stared houses my boss would yell at us for leaving hammer marks in the wood no joke
Daluge was the most popular in phoenix,az. In the 80’s. Nice hammer
After using a nail gun of all sorts for years, I’m not sure I can hammer a nail with accuracy anymore. 😢 The closest I do now is to use a nail set to sink a few raised finish nail heads.
That Martinez is actually a class A weapon! Lol
14oz stiletto all day. Martinez was good to......... but don't worry about what hammer you got until you can hit the nail twice
Umm,Eastwing is mine of choice.I never work with anyone unless they have one as well.I have the same Eastwing for years and find they are the most balanced and don't tear up tour wrist.
BACK IN THE DAY,the old timers would call those 'mule kicks' on the lumber with those hammer dents.I use that term with newbies and make sure they strive to avoid making them as it shows pride in your work by not having them.
If you try to murder the nail.....you're going to miss.
Dad, can I borrow some hammers? I wanna make another tictock
Hit the....I mean...it's not even moving.
Give a framer 6 different hammers and they will all do this for 2 reasons. A. Someone is watching and ready to give them shit. B. If they never miss with theirs, now the are micro adjusting for all these different hammer.
Looks like the stilleto 14oz is what you use every day. Problem with a titanium hammer is the waffle is gone after no time at all.
Should’ve had a stunt double for that comparison!
Alright guys, when did you graduate hammer school? '99 here.😂
That wood made form clay 😂😂
Guys give him a break. It’s hard to get used to a hammer in 4 nails. A man and his hammers bond is one formed over time.
Moral of the story, just what you like or fits in your hand best, love the look of a delluge or older framing hammers, but that dewalt is fine for a starters. Or go classic with an estwing
couldn't hit the side of a barn... keep the vids rolling!
It's not the tool. It's the tool behind the tool.
If I missed that many times in a row, I'd probably have my boss suggesting that I take a handful of 16s home to practice with. 😂
Yup. Looks like they all hammer nails as advertised
Must be left handed hammers and he forgot to check.
cool hammers but now try with your left hand, it will help later on in your career to be ambidextre
I use a 14 oz DeWalt Framing hammer. It's light but it still swings well. Probably the best starting hammer for the price I got it at almost 60 bucks.
i liked my 23oz CA Framer, for both framing and commercial concrete work, good to see no Eskwing junk on the list
Lol like watching my 4yr old use my drill with a #2 on a sheet rock screw. Keeping practicing champ 😂
That Vaughn and Martinez got it going on
You hit the nail on the head... That one time.
All jokes aside your better than me and probably most of the people giving you a hard time that never swung a hammer. Not as easy as it looks till you been at it a while.
The last one was the best! It made the biggest dents in the wood 😂😂
Dude was swingin for the fences 🤣 cool video
Works better when you can hit the nail
I remember my first time using a hammer.
Stiletto needs to make a rigging axe.
I’d buy it
Bruh I grew up on a framing crew. You didn’t even get bags until you set and sink. Long before stillettos we’re even a thing. You had a 19 oz Vaughn wooden handle or if you weren’t afraid of tendinitis you’d have the 23oz steel Vaughn.
Nowadays at 50 years old I can’t quite beat a nail gun, but I’m pretty close.
Work on your stroke son. And not just the one that ends up in a sock.
that m1 was great. when you hit the nail on the
A little advice for you young framer. When you get older your hands,elbows,hips,knees and back will hurt . Something to think about. Peace
So... does he just stop doing his job? How often is he suppose to "think about it"? Jesus christ dude🤣
moral of the story is just use a damn nail gun we live in 2023 not 1950 lmao
You clearly don’t frame
You still gotta set the nails with a hammer unless you're dookie, if you set your nails to shoot deeper on your wood you're missing the reason for the fastener and effectively reducing the shear load because only half the board is being held from shooting it too deep, even if you shoot it a little bit deep you still have to mar and compress the material around the nail, point is you still need to smack that spot with a hammer lol it sets the nails. These aren't pin nails, they're 8d framing nails
Side note, you should also set your pin nails
@@ffsrdr6596 you shouldn't have to set every single nail, you can go as deep as a 1/4" on 2x material.
@@predatorysage1 bullshit🤣🤣🤣 you don't have to do every single one but work speaks for itself, good luck with your creeky ass walls and roofs and decks and floors. Oh and not to forget your stairs are probably the creekiest mofos around lmao
Its not the tool its the operator
Love how you still being productive while experimenting😂
A hammer is a hammer it depends on how the user feels with it simple as that
Really .Hard to believe this is not a joke.😂
He's like lighting.......... never strikes the same spot twice 😂😂
Personally I'll take my 28oz Pittsburgh California framing hammer from harbor freight it's 9 bucks
depending on who hits it.Vaughn is the best bang for your buck
It all depends on how much weight you wanna be swingin all day! Imo, great vid though
The lighter the hammer the more your accuracy will plumpish. The first and, second hammer was top tier.
Ah, the tennis elbow 5000. Gotta respect the classics
He's giving his lack of experience opinion. I'll keep my German hammer
They all work if you actually hit the nail😂😂
I could go all day with my 23oz California framer. it was guaranteed for life and I would pick up the broken handles from the other carpenters and get a new one so I always had more than handy. that hammer was SET, DRIVE all day long
One guy had the steel 23oz Vaughan at least I think it’s steel. If it is steel that guy is like me, broke😂 I have a 22oz framing estwing my dad has had his estwing for 30 years and it performs like it’s brand new so I got myself one and I love that steel is still a thing. 👍
Only swung 2 of these.Vaughn and deluge, I still have the head of my only deluge, none of the many Vaughns.
I ain't believin you posted this video. It should be called 6 hammers hit or miss 😂
And Bushnell? I can take a picture of the old Hebron factory right now. Standing in my yard, can hear the building humming. Asians make sauces and bottle them there now.
Can't swing a hammer to save his life.
If theres anything i know abouy hammers, its not what they do within 4 nails, its what my arm feels like at the end of the day
All work perfectly fine. But definitely get the Martinez out of all these.
Must be windy with all those misses 😂
The best hammer is the one you like.
Im not saying the following as an insult, the tools today are far healthier for the body. But I always get a good laugh at younger carpenters. They get to use pneumatics more than we ever did in the past so it always looks always a little cringe seeing them hit nails. Im just imagining him doing trim work 😅😅
Missed a few times, but still had some driving power for a skinny guy. Seen many more that that are bigger and can’t drive in one strike ever.
Black smith hammers have bigger faces so u dont miss as much. Ya need it
He's a paid actor cuz I haven't seen a white framer in a very long time
All that matters is how you swing it
60 percent of the time, it works every time.