Bangladesh was the first part of pre independent India that wanted to separate from India on the basis of religion. So Bangladesh is first Pakistan. The fabric can't be changed overnight. Who are we kidding?
Bangladesh is independent and sovereign country. Bangladeshi people will decide how to govern It's own. So keep your nose out of our business solve problems of your own.
Being a Bangladeshi myself, I truly commend this fact-base unbiased analysis. Remarkable, nonetheless, I also learned quite a lot from here. Hasina's warm relations and concessions to ultra-right Hefazat to suppress Zamat and for political gain were deplorable. It's not the people of Bangladesh, but the corrupt politicians who have been using religion for their gain for centuries. Thanks to Print for shedding some unbiased light on the matter. Hope this will help our neighbors to understand us better.
Jamat or Any other Muslim Fundamental ☪️ Forces The Truth is To Stay in Power Political Parties are Using Them in India 🇮🇳 and Bangladesh 🇧🇩 No End to It
I am glad to see someone appreciate Praveen Swami. I see a lot of Bangladeshis who are not very happy about his coverage. He does not mince his words against anyone. He is brutally honest in his analysis. Recently during the Kargil war anniversary, he gave an honest monologue on how the top brass, who bungled the initial response to the infiltration, are still not held accountable. He kicked a storm naturally with the former COAS Gen Malik also criticizing him. But he held his ground.
@@madhumitachakraborty-yz5pyah pity the main duty of the prime minister is to safeguard the interest and safety of their own citizen as opposed to a different country. Oh well it was nice while it lasted but Bangladeshi ppl will never forgive Hasina for her oppressive regime.
I was actually working on a research paper for a seminar on Secularism in Bangladesh before the troubles started. The problem here lies solely with the scumbags we had as politicians. No one, literally no one in the mainstream politics were committed to maintaining a secular and amicable relation for the sake of justice. They used religion and secularism purely for their own selfish agendas. The Awami League during the Pakistan era constructed its iteration of Bengali nationalism and appealed to the Hindus purely to use them as a vote bank against the Pakistanis and not because they actually cared. When Pakistan no longer existed as a common enemy, they couldn't care less about Hindus. Sheikh Hasina was no different and she even created a protection racket where she let attacks happen before elections, accuse her political opponents for it and then collect the votes of desperate Hindus by promising protection that is never provided. It was an efficient system if you ignore the ethical implications and look at it from a cold logic standpoint. And Hasina's relationship with India made sure that Hindus were fooled as some of their upperclassmen even joined the Awami League in droves and betrayed their own for money.
So proud that also the Islamic part of Bengal has a tradition of poetry, even though Hindu Bengali poets have been more prolific. For being a country independent as a language movement, I enjoyed the poem and the lecture. I wish poetry would be celebrated as art and promote liberal secularism for the celebration of the art of poetry. Thanks for the video, I loved it
Bengali Hindus considers themselves as Bengali first and Hindus next. But Bengali Muslims considers themselves as Muslims first and Bengalis next. So, if any body things, Bangladesh or any other Muslim majority country can survive as Secular state, are living in fools paradise. That’s the sad truth. If population exchange on the basis of religion carried out in Bengal during partition of India, India might have avoided a whole lot of issues. But Khangress spoiled and India still paying the price.
I think only the Central Asian states like Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and some European Muslim countries like Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albania are truly secular. Every other Muslim country on the planet is compromised and think of themselves as Muslim first.
Bengali Hindus hate muslims more than anyone, so spare us the clownish take. No Bengali ever considered their language to be above Hinduism. Maybe don't paste your dravidian bullshit on the Bengali folks 😂. Bengal never had nor will it have a language separatist movement
Omg. .. The bangladeshis lecturing india on secularism and how it has a better track record is the perfect example of delulu. Islam is a state religion in Bangladesh notwithstanding the 2010 supreme court judgment. This by definition relegates all the other religions to secondary status. The concept and ideal of equality gets thrown out of the window. Whereas, even with the rising tide of hindutva and assuming that india is just a notionaly secular country, its still better than having a constitutionally mandated state religion. Inspite of all the issues we do have an ideal to aspire to. Secondly, before lecturing anyone about minorities fairing better in Bangladesh, the Bangladeshis would do well to introspect as to why the hindu population has consistently declined to under 8% from more than 20%. I guess as the birth place of muslim league one cant really expect anything otherwise.. Anyway i do hope for a peaceful and prosperous Bangladesh with a quick return to normalcy
your country maybe secular but your minorities are being treated worst than my country Bangladesh. go look at some Human Rights watch reports about Bangladeshi and Indian minorities.
No one from his family died in the war- that is why he could let those al badr, Al- Shams, and Razakars free. He was in Pakistan leaving 75 million people on their fate. Like father like daughter.
you have some good points but this recent events were not driven by any of those of the past. This was a simple protest against oppression by the hasina and co. Plain and simple. But good analysis anyway.
It’s a general view that Bengalis are learned people and have experience of this as well. Now seeing the comments surely know which Bengalis are learned. Fanatic religious teaching does block brain.
Well can’t help if you deny it, but that’s the same story with Islam worldwide. Or else why does Islamic theocracies have death penalty for apostates. Even in Europe people get attacked when they criticize Islam.
@@adityabhattacharyya600 Has nothing to do with her. Every religion has their own laws for criticism. Muslims feel it’s justified Bcoz if you start criticising and abusing each others God then that won’t be a congenial atmosphere to live in. So logically it’s ok not to abuse each others God. Changing religion also is not the issue in Islam, but it becomes an issue when you change to another and then start abusing your previous religion. That’s when they are attacked. Same is happening in today’s india with or without a religious ruling against apostate. Hindutva people are giving mob justice to anyone who is converting from Hinduism and not needed to abuse Hinduism even. Means the apostasy law has some merit I guess. God definitely knows a lot better than we the people. But the fact is the Quran forbids to abuse anyone’s god and has no punishment prescribed for apostates. The apostasy law is derived from secondary sources and a large majority of Muslims even don’t agree with that law.
Instead of outright rejection, South Asian nations should introspect on their treatment of minorities to determine if they truly uphold liberal values. India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, among others, must examine their policies and decision-making processes. Minority groups should have autonomy over their affairs, with reforms, if necessary, initiated and led by the communities themselves. Many Bangladeshi citizens view the recent student protests as a revolutionary struggle against authoritarian rule. While this is understandable, it does not explain the attacks on Awami League supporters, including celebrities. What about the targeting of Bangladeshi Hindus and their temples? Despite the existence of Muslims who protect their Hindu neighbors, underlying communalism is evident within society. A people-centered democratic model is needed for the country. To uphold the principles of secularism, a strong argument can be made for removing Islam as the state religion of Bangladesh. While some believe religious belief can strengthen secular credentials, others question the need for a state-imposed religious identity, especially one established by a dictator in the mid-1980s
"Minority groups should have autonomy over their affairs" - in a truly secular country with liberal values, minorities have the exact same rights as majority. There are no distinctions, because everyone is equal.
The prophets' names are Muhammad, Jesus Christ, and Gautama Buddha for those curious after watching this insightful commentary on the mercurial journey of secularism in Bangladesh by Praveen Swami.
As always, a superb, well-balanced report trying to probe and unclutter the truth amidst a lot of fictional notions in the mind of the average Indian, more conspicuously, Indian Bengali Hindu. Two things to though :- 1) Somehow Devanagari was mentioned as the Bengali script at some point quoting some source, which is not correct. Bengali inherits the Maithali script, not Devanagari. 2) At one point, it was mentioned that Bengalis wanted to rebel against Hindus - the statement seems flimsy since there are Bengalis who are Hindus - most of them live in West Bengal.
Awami League were never nationalists and neither were they secular. Their only policy was India first. Hasina loved India way more than she like Bangladesh.
@@malayalee123 you’re an Indian and I’m a Bangladeshi, I know who loves my country more than you do. This is why India is so unpopular, you want to impose your opinion and your policy on my country: this is why Maldives, Nepal’s and Sri Lanka also dislikes India.
@@P.D886 says an Indian who never lived in Bangladesh. I know what the facts are. Bangladesh economy grew faster under caretaker government during 2007-09 global recession. The growth is also barely seen on the street. Despite being richer than India our cities look far more run down than Indian cities.
@@prodigiii712 How is india unpopular? When all your medical treatments, Eid shopping and tourism starts and ends with india. It's only from last year August Jamat tried to penetrate the anti india propaganda brainwashing people. It comes from deep rooted insecurities. People like Pinaki and Al-Jazeera magnified it. It won't go under the rug this time. India still controls all your upstream rivers.
India is a secular country with bjp , rss in power . There is no pressure on minorities 😂😂😂😂. There were no history of hindu muslim riots in secular bjp india.
India still has a secular constitution while Muslim majority countries ...😅 You know the story. In India, share of Muslims in the population is continuously increasing while in Bangladesh ...😅 You know the story. This is the power of Islam 💪.
Typical prejudiced opinions of a 3rd c lass bangaal deshi. 😂💩 Go and ask the Muslims of India whether they are willing to give up their Indian citizenship for a bangaal deshi or pakistani one.
Is India a secularist country......... Giving the fact that Hindutva leader modi won three consecutive elections? Point finger to yourselves before pointing to others...... Especially in neighbouring countries.
So it is east pakistan ever Here also urdu mixed hindi is pushed in the name of north indian majority without due regard for bhararth's ancient languages.
Over the past few days, it has become evident from Indian intellectuals' online discussions that they perceive the recent changes in Bangladesh as not a loss of a friendly neighbor rather than as if they lost one of their north eastern states. Moreover they are now offering unsolicited advice on how Bangladesh should be governed. For instance, they find an Islamic Bangladesh unacceptable, but a secular Bangladesh is in everyone's interest. Interestingly, these intellectuals seem to forget that their own country, India, has moved away from secularism. Instead, they have chosen a religious party with ambitious plans for their own minority population, which constitutes 20% of India's people. They don't even shy away from their intentions. This inconsistency makes them appear hypocritical. Unfortunately
Yes we don't want to share borders with islamists and extremists,it makes complete sense from a security POV. Even Saudi Arabia would have reacted similarly if they shared borders with Bangladesh. If Bangladesh was an island in south east Asia near Indonesia, India wouldn't have given 2 $hit$ about the country being an i$ł@mįČ $hith0ł€
@@drno4603we are forced to meddle as Bangladeshi are fence jumpers with radical Islamic beliefs. Nobody in cares about your $hith0le country that fudges it's gdp numbers, it's anyway to going to fail soon
Apart from the whataboutery, your comments are not useful. India's secularism is still running through the veins and systems. Eventhough few people tried, it can never be replaced. Now, you cannot tell the same about Bangladesh. Progressive society and journalists wont support religious states. Thats all.
India is still a secular country-no matter whatever narrative you try to set, because the majority of its population are Hindus. But no muslim majority country can remain secular and it's the main point of conflict in Bangladesh. It's the conflict between the Islamist majority and secular minority.
The term "secularism" has been abused and manipulated the most in the context of pre-partitioned India (including present-day India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh). In reality, Hindus in India have become more insular and rabid, which has contributed to the rise of the BJP. In Pakistan, Muslims view their situation through the lens of the most regressive interpretation of Islam, and Bangladesh, in my view, at least, has a stronger track record of secularism compared to both India and Pakistan. In India, Narendra Modi's rise to power has been fueled by hate politics. The BJP, founded on the ideology of Hindutva, has conducted malicious campaigns against Islam, Christianity, and communism. Consequently, India has lost its moral authority to lecture others on secularism. Pakistan, on the other hand, is a failed state with no clear direction. Pakistan means no hopes and expectations. What is more concerning is Muslims in India, who are the most disenfranchised community, are particularly disadvantaged. The BJP lacks Muslim representation in parliament, and Muslims are in a worse situation than Dalits. Muslims in India face extreme levels of censorship; dissenting voices are stifled, passports are seized, and homes are destroyed by bulldozers. Human rights violations against Muslims are not even acknowledged. India has no right to lecture others on secularism. In Pakistan, Hindus face similar issues, and while Bangladesh has made positive strides, I support the people's movement against authoritarian figures like Sheikh Hasina. Hindutvas is as dangerous as taliban or any form of radical Islam, this is fact and India is not a secular country in sense of the term. Bangladesh's treatment of minorities is considerably better than what minorities face in India and Pakistan.
U have been saying hindutva so many times...do u know in India that temples get attacked..as recently as in May in ahmedabad..in response Hindus don't attack mosques.. India is secular because Hindus are tolerant.. the second modi came because of the bad economics of congress.. hindutva had nothing to do... Foreign affairs and the economic modi government is doing well....if indian society as per you is so radical..how did BJP numbers come down below majority when Ram temple is built..which is a mecca of Hindus..solved 550 years old problem..so stop comparing India with Bangladesh... India is secular by nature because Hindus are..
Bangladesh did not make positive slides.. population of Hindus is reducing in this region from 33% in 1990 to 24% in 47 to 14% in 1971 to 7% now.. According to one prediction from Dhaka University..Hindus may Vanishree by 2050...
Muslim are in the worst condition because of Muslim leadership..they had enough representation before..Best example.. Hyderabad..whole of Hyderabad has improved but old city where only Muslim leaders win..They sometimes have the power to make State governments fall.. what do they do with power stop metro tracks to get into the old city..stop development as some shops have to be taken down.. other areas like Ameerpet they moved out created space for metro and no one played politics.. Muslim are not doing well blame Muslim leadership whose priority is religion not development
Oh yeah? Just to avoid that communal tension, we had 2 countries created in 1947 for a specific section of population because that community demanded. Let's look at those 2 countries. In pakistan minority population from 20% is 2%. Bangladesh from 30% it's 6%. In India you actually had the minority population increase. (And remember these are the same people who stayed back after demanding Pakistan). So hey anyone who feels "claustrophobic" in India because they are apparently "discriminated" on the basis of faith can go to the country they demanded in 1947. India has given away enough land.
Muslims have 5 to 6 kids per family and do not focus on education. Most are dropouts. Very few excel, and are indeed outstanding. No govt can help you. Dalits now focus on education and are improving themselves. Muslim culture of non-introspection keeps them backward and stagnant. Muslims who work in trades do make a decent money. Like an electrician, a plumber, a mechanic, a biryani chef these days earn a lakh or more. These people have more than 1 wife and about 8 kids, but how can 8 kids get the necessary parental focus? So most kids are off track, always blaming govt and throwing stones and destroying public property. Hence the bulldozers.
Secularism is not a religion, it is a mindset and attitude. I can be a Hindu and be secular in dealings with people of other religions. Islam has a problem as it urges Muslims to treat people of other religions as non-friends. Islam is incompatible with fairness.
Typical Hindus got upset😂😂😂. Indian servant ( Hasina ) fled to India from Bangladesh. Finally we got independence through revolution. Victory to the students and people. 💪💪💪.
Wherever parties to secure their rule . Always tie up with fringe or extreme groups . In bangladesh or pakistan case . The religious groups . Results are then lop sided
Indians, you cannot have Bangladesh! So stop talking. Your plight against Bangladeshis and exploiting them for the benefit of India ended with Hasina's cowardice fleeing to India. More and more of Hasina's victims have been found in different cells around the country. India, you have united all Bengalis: religious to secularists Bangladeshis to British Bangladeshis, and the most aggressive ones, the American Bangladeshis. With Dr. Yunus, he also has the backing of Western governments, just so Bangladesh doesn't get influenced by China.
Print please no false narrative. Some attacks on Hindus occured due to their alignment with Awami League. Many Awami leaders were also targeted at a time when there was no Government. Islamists are patrolling round the clock guarding Hindu temples and assets. Please see video from Hindu Mahasabha president Gobindo Pramanik at Dhakeshari Mandir.
Bangladesh is a Muslim country and it will remain so so India should keep inmind that. India should 5:15 respect and protect Muslims in India. India talks about Hindus in Bangladesh where Muslims in India were discriminated against and excluded.
"Kukur er laij kokhuno shoja hoye na". Bangali follows Devnagari script where each alphabet is a beej mantra of a diety. Therefore Bangali culture is fundamentally Hindu. Hence those who are no longer Hindu are no longer Bangali either.
That's a fallacious argument, given you don't define what Hindu is. It's an umbrella 'socio-geo-political' term that refers to people living on lands beyond the river Indus. It's not what the Astika Schools of Dharma refer to, and certainly not to be covered completely by the Beejamantra. By your argument the people who belonged to the Nastika schools, and didn't go by any Beejamantra or any personalized form of Ishta (God) aren't Hindus either. And the modern day Bengali is no more the one that had only the influence of Sanskrit or it's derivate languages like Magadhi Prakrit. Even though it is written using a Assamese-Bengali script which derives from the Devanagari (following the Abudiga writing system), it has several loan words from Perso-Arabic languages. And that has been the result of almost 800 years of Turko-Persian and Afghan empires in the Eastern part of Modern day India and Bangladesh, and also because of the arrival of several Islamic religious figures from the Middle East who came to spread their religious tenents. And many of them, and even the others were poets and musicologists, had written in Bengali and used Perso-Arabic loan words, which resulted in their works being assimilated in the Bengali literature (and also included several Perso-Arabic words to be included in the vocabulary). Even for that matter, Kazi Nazrul Islam (the one who is considered the Warrior Poet or Bidrohi Kobi), himself largely used Perso-Acabic words in his works. Some of the notable poetic works and hence songs, like "Rum Jhum Jhum Jhum Rum Jhum Jhum" could easily reveal the fact of the matter. So, if you wish to make such a fallacious conclusion just like what Ms. Liaquat Ali Khan did out of his ignorance of the history and nitty-gritty of the Bengali language, well good luck!
This Swami is more obcessed with neighboring country's records rather than what is with our country.I am yet to hear from him about Modi's or Sanghis "secularism".
Bangladesh isn't anti hindu? Lol. And people who believe that aren't called andhbhakts🤣🤣. If that was the case how did the minority population in the country come down from 30% to 8%? The country in 1947 (I'm talking of east pakistan), was created on anti hindu lines. Had the minority population in India dropped by even 1% all drama would've happned in our neighborhood.
@@sirgg3847 alright. What was your minority population during independence? So it's 25% to 7%? 20% to 8%? At the bare minimum it's still a 12% drop. And for a population that's big. The way you addressed me by attacking my faith clearly shows what your culture is. Clearly shows why a certain section demanded pakistan. Edit : and also clearly shows why still in India, they scream from the rooftops using loudspeakers screaming their god is the only divine being and no other God is real. Thats tolerance right? When you scream publically through a loudspeaker that their god is the only true God and every other God is false? Remember this is when the majority faith in India is well over 75% atleast on paper.
Illegal property wheather a mandir or a masjid shall be dealt accordingly. And how secular is india? We have had prime ministers, presidents ,chief of army of many minority communities..how many have you had ?
does the constituition says there is state religion???? can the major religion figures be mocked and getting acquiited based on fundamental rights??? can minorities land be taken in the name of vested properties act eenshrined in constituition if not then you should shut the F*** up and say anything about India!!!
We didn't demand seperate islamic nations exclusively for ourself you are the one who overwhelming voted for partition and shamelessly stayed back for leeching our resources making baby like rabbit for another piece of land in the name of another partition. Whole world is fed up with desert cult.
Babri masjid itself was built after demolishing the temple. There are thousands of such examples of mosques built on other religions' temples and churches throughout history. But you see no wrong in it. It's only when people stand against such barbaric historical wrongs that you get triggered.
Oh yeah?? Just to avoid that communal tension, we had 2 countries created in 1947 for a specific section of population because that community demanded. Let's look at those 2 countries. In pakistan minority population from 20% is 2%. Bangladesh from 30% it's 6%. In India you actually had the minority population increase. (And remember these are the same people who stayed back after demanding Pakistan). So hey anyone who feels "claustrophobic" in India because they are apparently "discriminated" on the basis of faith can go to the country they demanded in 1947. India has given away enough land.
Politics is very complex and complicated affair. We can talk a lot, and accomplish nothing. Yes, ok to have BANGLADESH--- But Bengalis should not kill Bengalis---- it is not religious issue---- it is a political/economic issue. 😊
@@atiqrahman7289 you are the guys who demanded Bangladesh and Pakistan. And bunch of hypocrites in your countries have laws which forbids minorites from becoming presidents and pms and lecture us on "tolerance".
India is in no situation to criticize bangladesh.India has seen hundreds of riots against it's muslim population.They elected far right hindu nationalist and fascist BJP into power.Bhai how do you guys even come to lecture us.Protect secularism and muslims of your own country
have u ever lived in india? we have had muslim chief ministers, ministers, union ministres, president vice presidents, indian muslim industrualists and crorepatis are there till now. know the facts, how many top positions were given to non muslims in bangaldesh? retrospect before looking into india. india still allocated money to bangladesh in its annual budgets. whenever you mess up your economy or politics ,india is the neighbour which made you stable including your independence from west pakistan. bangladeshis like you are a disgrace.
@@Aragorneus Recent Delhi riots of 2019,The near everyday lynching of musims,2002 gujrat riots,90s bombay riots,babri mosque destruction.Just stop getting immersed about bangladesh and think about your own nation
@@thisisrafee8317 😂😂😂😂 so you could list three over a couple of decades... I can list few hundred in the Last couple of years in Bangladesh. We don't give a flying f*ck about your existence... And again FO ... Fundamentalist, radicalists sav*ges ...the whole lot of you
Indians talk about secularism when it Fascist BJP and RSS goons has riped out every part of secularism and has made life and livelihood of Muslims miserable.... Gujrat roits, muzaffarnagar roits, mob lynching are examples. Demolation of religious places of Muslims are daily happening in india. India should works on secularism at home first.....
Our democracy is much more vibrant that you can even imagine. Bjp and rss are not a majority they are a coalition that's how parliamentary system should work with proper debates. Name me one law that is against Muslims in general and progressive. Name me incidents when writers who criticize bjp is murdered , only happens in non secular states.
That's why Muslims are multiplying in India. Each producing 20 kids. 25 percent of constituencies are Muslim dominant here. So please unlike in BD they are not a disappearing breed .
Oh yeah? Just to avoid that communal tension, we had 2 countries created in 1947 for a specific section of population because that community demanded. Let's look at those 2 countries. In pakistan minority population from 20% is 2%. Bangladesh from 30% it's 6%. In India you actually had the minority population increase. (And remember these are the same people who stayed back after demanding Pakistan). So hey anyone who feels "claustrophobic" in India because they are apparently "discriminated" on the basis of faith can go to the country they demanded in 1947. India has given away enough land.
So india is 100percent secular country? Then how come bjp in power? India have hindu religious party and muslim get tortured by cow mob.even low caste hindu people tortured..fix your problem first then point fingers at the others..
Boring and Biased against Islam . Bengalis wanted Islamic fair state , what they got instead was British style state without Goras , Army dominated by Pathan generals , civil service dominated by UP, CP, Beharis and intellectual and civil life dominated by West pakistani shias and Ahmedis . Only in mid 1960s onward there was serious drive to recruit Bengalis in army and civil service . Before military rule in 1958 , PM ship was almost alternate between east and west pakistan and Bengalis enjoyed their usual three party provincial government political duel and also sent two federal ministers and alternate prime ministers to govern pakistan . Ayub stopped that creating serious political imbalance . Pathans love to act like messiahs and help break Pakistan by stopping musical chairs of PM ship between East and West Pakistan . It is not possible for a person professing islam to consider himself Bengali first and Muslim later , in that case he is hypocrite , worse than all . That is the structure of Islamic faith . Islam is not just a religion it is a superculture and nationalities are its subculture . You travel fro west africa to phillipines , you will find similar culture . Hence bombing in Gaza causes demonstrations in Malaysia and Turkey and USA . And south africa goes to world court . Hinduism has similar thing but on much much lesser scale , jews have more .
@@Myanmartiger921 Rising power of USSR post WW2 had a lot to do with it as Muslims were their next door neighbours . Hence entry of USA in Turkey , Iran , Pakistan , and in South east asia owing to USSR ally China . In middle east because oil wealth needed guardians . But now none of them are needed so much . Most of the high population muslim countries have resources to build nukes themselves .
Bangladesh was the first part of pre independent India that wanted to separate from India on the basis of religion. So Bangladesh is first Pakistan. The fabric can't be changed overnight. Who are we kidding?
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Perfectly Said . HISTORY Doesn't Lie
Bangladesh is independent and sovereign country. Bangladeshi people will decide how to govern It's own. So keep your nose out of our business solve problems of your own.
@@shahedahamed8634tui ki gar marate amader channel dekchis jodi tor nijer desher opor focus kor kathmollar bachha
Bangladesh wanted to be separated as reaction to discrimination of Hindu elites. DON’T TWIST HISTORY!
Being a Bangladeshi myself, I truly commend this fact-base unbiased analysis. Remarkable, nonetheless, I also learned quite a lot from here. Hasina's warm relations and concessions to ultra-right Hefazat to suppress Zamat and for political gain were deplorable. It's not the people of Bangladesh, but the corrupt politicians who have been using religion for their gain for centuries. Thanks to Print for shedding some unbiased light on the matter. Hope this will help our neighbors to understand us better.
Jamat or Any other Muslim Fundamental ☪️ Forces The Truth is To Stay in Power Political Parties are Using Them in India 🇮🇳 and Bangladesh 🇧🇩 No End to It
I am glad to see someone appreciate Praveen Swami. I see a lot of Bangladeshis who are not very happy about his coverage. He does not mince his words against anyone. He is brutally honest in his analysis. Recently during the Kargil war anniversary, he gave an honest monologue on how the top brass, who bungled the initial response to the infiltration, are still not held accountable. He kicked a storm naturally with the former COAS Gen Malik also criticizing him. But he held his ground.
But she was good for Indians in general because North East seven sisters was safe . We will support whoever serves our interests better
Jamat sucks
@@madhumitachakraborty-yz5pyah pity the main duty of the prime minister is to safeguard the interest and safety of their own citizen as opposed to a different country. Oh well it was nice while it lasted but Bangladeshi ppl will never forgive Hasina for her oppressive regime.
Nice commentary by PS. This brings a clear perspective to what is happening in Bangladesh now. Thanks for this informative, eloquent explanation.
I was actually working on a research paper for a seminar on Secularism in Bangladesh before the troubles started. The problem here lies solely with the scumbags we had as politicians. No one, literally no one in the mainstream politics were committed to maintaining a secular and amicable relation for the sake of justice. They used religion and secularism purely for their own selfish agendas. The Awami League during the Pakistan era constructed its iteration of Bengali nationalism and appealed to the Hindus purely to use them as a vote bank against the Pakistanis and not because they actually cared. When Pakistan no longer existed as a common enemy, they couldn't care less about Hindus. Sheikh Hasina was no different and she even created a protection racket where she let attacks happen before elections, accuse her political opponents for it and then collect the votes of desperate Hindus by promising protection that is never provided. It was an efficient system if you ignore the ethical implications and look at it from a cold logic standpoint. And Hasina's relationship with India made sure that Hindus were fooled as some of their upperclassmen even joined the Awami League in droves and betrayed their own for money.
So proud that also the Islamic part of Bengal has a tradition of poetry, even though Hindu Bengali poets have been more prolific. For being a country independent as a language movement, I enjoyed the poem and the lecture. I wish poetry would be celebrated as art and promote liberal secularism for the celebration of the art of poetry. Thanks for the video, I loved it
Bangladeshi agree with you but not with the secular liberalization.
Radical Islamists raise where there is anarchy.Hope Bangladesh doesn't become Islamic state and become another Afghanistan or Pakistan.
It will become sooner and later. It's our role to divide Bengladesh. Take back lands which are owed to the Hindus.
@@aloksengupta4703Believe in what I say, you really don’t want this mess in today’s world. Let’s leave them on their own now.
We should not bother them. Fence up our borders and expel all the Bangladeshis over here back to Bangladesh
@@aloksengupta4703good stuffs you get too much high
Bangladesh constitution declares itself as islamic state after 1975 military bloody coup ,earlier it was part of islamic Pakistan!?
Praveen Swami has briliantly uncovered deeprooted factors that have brought Bangladesh to its present predicament. 👍
Glad to see professional touch to video.
Great content as always.
Thank you.
No End to Bangladesh and Westbengal Secularism Romantic Story 😮 Every Passing Year Muslim Fundamental and Muslim Secularism Will Rise 😢
As a Bangladeshi, i am concern of Buldoser politics and punisment toward islamophobe in india! 😂😂😂
Bangladeshi muslims in india agree
@@Myanmartiger921 no but now as we are independent Bangladeshi Muslims shall be everywhere muhahaha!! 😂😂
Well then be concerned about the Islamophobia in the whole world. Every one all across the world seems to be now realizing how toxic ideology is.
Bengali Hindus considers themselves as Bengali first and Hindus next. But Bengali Muslims considers themselves as Muslims first and Bengalis next. So, if any body things, Bangladesh or any other Muslim majority country can survive as Secular state, are living in fools paradise. That’s the sad truth. If population exchange on the basis of religion carried out in Bengal during partition of India, India might have avoided a whole lot of issues. But Khangress spoiled and India still paying the price.
Wrong. We have our own share of Commies and Libtards.
I as a Bangali am Hindu first and Bangali second.
I think only the Central Asian states like Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and some European Muslim countries like Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albania are truly secular. Every other Muslim country on the planet is compromised and think of themselves as Muslim first.
Why only Bengal,whole of India population exchange could have avoided all the miseries we are facing,alas there is no remedy now we all are doomed
@@liveandletlive162 exactly
Bengali Hindus hate muslims more than anyone, so spare us the clownish take. No Bengali ever considered their language to be above Hinduism. Maybe don't paste your dravidian bullshit on the Bengali folks 😂. Bengal never had nor will it have a language separatist movement
An impressive analysis; Thank You Mr. Swami.
Sir, salutes to you for delivering another top class editorial.
Wow, unique take on the situation in Bangladesh. Hope people take notice of this. Nice video Mr Swamy.
Question is NOT why Bangladesh assimilated with WB and part of india. Question is why Assam and WB join to Bangladesh
A top notch report, that only Praveen Swami could've made. Thank you ❤
Omg. .. The bangladeshis lecturing india on secularism and how it has a better track record is the perfect example of delulu. Islam is a state religion in Bangladesh notwithstanding the 2010 supreme court judgment. This by definition relegates all the other religions to secondary status. The concept and ideal of equality gets thrown out of the window. Whereas, even with the rising tide of hindutva and assuming that india is just a notionaly secular country, its still better than having a constitutionally mandated state religion. Inspite of all the issues we do have an ideal to aspire to.
Secondly, before lecturing anyone about minorities fairing better in Bangladesh, the Bangladeshis would do well to introspect as to why the hindu population has consistently declined to under 8% from more than 20%. I guess as the birth place of muslim league one cant really expect anything otherwise..
Anyway i do hope for a peaceful and prosperous Bangladesh with a quick return to normalcy
Normalcy will return.But not for the minorities in Bangladesh.
your country maybe secular but your minorities are being treated worst than my country Bangladesh. go look at some Human Rights watch reports about Bangladeshi and Indian minorities.
Very insightful❤. Shows the real colour of muslims, almost everywhere and anytime.
So the lessons that we have all learnt were once Islam enters there's no space left for others....
This is such a great video, so informative and so well told
This is a thoughtful piece of work. Unexpected. Good work.
No one from his family died in the war- that is why he could let those al badr, Al- Shams, and Razakars free. He was in Pakistan leaving 75 million people on their fate. Like father like daughter.
Ziaur Rahman assumed power in 1975, not in 1977. He was murdered later, and then Ershad came into the scene
he was chief oh
Nope, Abu Sadat Mohammad Sayem preceeded him, being the Prez. from late 1975 till early 1977.
Excellent! So informative without any yelling… how very refreshing
Thoroughly enjoy all your well researched story telling. Thanks
Thanks!
Hi Arko,
Thank you for the generous contribution you've made to us.
absolutely brilliant
Lindu poems and written BS needs to go out
you have some good points but this recent events were not driven by any of those of the past. This was a simple protest against oppression by the hasina and co. Plain and simple. But good analysis anyway.
It’s a general view that Bengalis are learned people and have experience of this as well. Now seeing the comments surely know which Bengalis are learned. Fanatic religious teaching does block brain.
radical mob lynching Nation shouldn't lecture a better Nation like Bangladesh 😂😎😎
Secular means nothing for one particular religion. So stop being secular with them thats the language they understand.
Lol as if lindu Nationalist understand what secularism means!
She was not exiled for secularism but for spreading hate against Islam
Science is also anti islam?
@@Myanmartiger921 Wrong. Islam is the only religion that is 💯 in agreement with science.
You’re ignorant.
@@Myanmartiger921 pseudo science is anti everything but Pro lindoism 😂😂😂
Well can’t help if you deny it, but that’s the same story with Islam worldwide. Or else why does Islamic theocracies have death penalty for apostates. Even in Europe people get attacked when they criticize Islam.
@@adityabhattacharyya600 Has nothing to do with her. Every religion has their own laws for criticism. Muslims feel it’s justified Bcoz if you start criticising and abusing each others God then that won’t be a congenial atmosphere to live in.
So logically it’s ok not to abuse each others God.
Changing religion also is not the issue in Islam, but it becomes an issue when you change to another and then start abusing your previous religion. That’s when they are attacked.
Same is happening in today’s india with or without a religious ruling against apostate. Hindutva people are giving mob justice to anyone who is converting from Hinduism and not needed to abuse Hinduism even. Means the apostasy law has some merit I guess.
God definitely knows a lot better than we the people. But the fact is the Quran forbids to abuse anyone’s god and has no punishment prescribed for apostates. The apostasy law is derived from secondary sources and a large majority of Muslims even don’t agree with that law.
Whem religion trumps culture , this is exactly what happens. Sadly BD us going the same path. Thats why the hate id againsy the Hindus.
absolutely brilliant brief of history in story format Pravin Jii . as a bengali i am so touched
Thank you sir for this Video; very well researched and articulated !!
Instead of outright rejection, South Asian nations should introspect on their treatment of minorities to determine if they truly uphold liberal values. India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, among others, must examine their policies and decision-making processes. Minority groups should have autonomy over their affairs, with reforms, if necessary, initiated and led by the communities themselves.
Many Bangladeshi citizens view the recent student protests as a revolutionary struggle against authoritarian rule. While this is understandable, it does not explain the attacks on Awami League supporters, including celebrities. What about the targeting of Bangladeshi Hindus and their temples? Despite the existence of Muslims who protect their Hindu neighbors, underlying communalism is evident within society. A people-centered democratic model is needed for the country.
To uphold the principles of secularism, a strong argument can be made for removing Islam as the state religion of Bangladesh. While some believe religious belief can strengthen secular credentials, others question the need for a state-imposed religious identity, especially one established by a dictator in the mid-1980s
"Minority groups should have autonomy over their affairs" - in a truly secular country with liberal values, minorities have the exact same rights as majority. There are no distinctions, because everyone is equal.
yawn!
iit does not meed sharia
The prophets' names are Muhammad, Jesus Christ, and Gautama Buddha for those curious after watching this insightful commentary on the mercurial journey of secularism in Bangladesh by Praveen Swami.
What a silly thing this blasphemy . One excuse for murderers
Gautama Buddha is not a prophet not a God... Kindly excuse him from your leftist rhetoric..
Brilliant, Mr. Swami!
He became a butcher after independence.
Very good analysis
Wake up......
It can never change.
Please dont mistake the krait for a rope ever......if you want to survive.
As always, a superb, well-balanced report trying to probe and unclutter the truth amidst a lot of fictional notions in the mind of the average Indian, more conspicuously, Indian Bengali Hindu.
Two things to though :-
1) Somehow Devanagari was mentioned as the Bengali script at some point quoting some source, which is not correct. Bengali inherits the Maithali script, not Devanagari.
2) At one point, it was mentioned that Bengalis wanted to rebel against Hindus - the statement seems flimsy since there are Bengalis who are Hindus - most of them live in West Bengal.
Well researched , objective .
Arguably only India media give accurate information.
Sir, I always like to listen to your history lessons. Thanks.
Awami League were never nationalists and neither were they secular. Their only policy was India first. Hasina loved India way more than she like Bangladesh.
That is your perception,not fact.
Thats BS. Under her, economy boomed. She always loved Bangladesh more. Only problem was she tried to make it into a party state.
@@malayalee123 you’re an Indian and I’m a Bangladeshi, I know who loves my country more than you do. This is why India is so unpopular, you want to impose your opinion and your policy on my country: this is why Maldives, Nepal’s and Sri Lanka also dislikes India.
@@P.D886 says an Indian who never lived in Bangladesh. I know what the facts are. Bangladesh economy grew faster under caretaker government during 2007-09 global recession. The growth is also barely seen on the street. Despite being richer than India our cities look far more run down than Indian cities.
@@prodigiii712 How is india unpopular? When all your medical treatments, Eid shopping and tourism starts and ends with india. It's only from last year August Jamat tried to penetrate the anti india propaganda brainwashing people. It comes from deep rooted insecurities. People like Pinaki and Al-Jazeera magnified it. It won't go under the rug this time. India still controls all your upstream rivers.
अपने दर्पण घर में खोजें और आपको शेख हसीना का असली रूप दिखाई देगा 😢
All this issues with these tiny and puny neighbors of India will be solved with India resolving its border issue with China….
Seems to be a knowledgeable discourse. Would like to know the name and credentials of the narrator, which I could not find anywhere.
Fantastic analysis. unputdownable.
Nicely explained
India is a secular country with bjp , rss in power . There is no pressure on minorities 😂😂😂😂. There were no history of hindu muslim riots in secular bjp india.
India still has a secular constitution while Muslim majority countries ...😅 You know the story. In India, share of Muslims in the population is continuously increasing while in Bangladesh ...😅 You know the story. This is the power of Islam 💪.
Minorities are not fleeing India nor their population is reducing unlike Pakistan or BD.
Typical prejudiced opinions of a 3rd c lass bangaal deshi. 😂💩 Go and ask the Muslims of India whether they are willing to give up their Indian citizenship for a bangaal deshi or pakistani one.
Punjabis write in Urdu but speak in Punjabi (as there as not enough swear words of.in Urdu).
😂
Is India a secularist country......... Giving the fact that Hindutva leader modi won three consecutive elections? Point finger to yourselves before pointing to others...... Especially in neighbouring countries.
India shall point finger, what will Bangladesh do in return? Beg for more funds? Or send more refugees.
Yes India continues to have a secular constitution unlike Bangladesh
In India Bengal Muslims share in population has doubled.
@@anuragpant What fund you r talking about?!!!
@@rabeyajahanmousume3802@rabeyajahanmousume3802, leave it; you people are not worth even a second of India's time.
This is superb.
So it is east pakistan ever
Here also urdu mixed hindi is pushed in the name of north indian majority without due regard for bhararth's ancient languages.
Thank God Bangladesh did not assimilate. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Gar mere jeto…
Over the past few days, it has become evident from Indian intellectuals' online discussions that they perceive the recent changes in Bangladesh as not a loss of a friendly neighbor rather than as if they lost one of their north eastern states. Moreover they are now offering unsolicited advice on how Bangladesh should be governed. For instance, they find an Islamic Bangladesh unacceptable, but a secular Bangladesh is in everyone's interest. Interestingly, these intellectuals seem to forget that their own country, India, has moved away from secularism. Instead, they have chosen a religious party with ambitious plans for their own minority population, which constitutes 20% of India's people.
They don't even shy away from their intentions.
This inconsistency makes them appear hypocritical.
Unfortunately
So true. This video goes on for 20 minutes discussing events between Bangladesh and Pakistan but no mention of India's meddling in its neighbors.
Yes we don't want to share borders with islamists and extremists,it makes complete sense from a security POV. Even Saudi Arabia would have reacted similarly if they shared borders with Bangladesh. If Bangladesh was an island in south east Asia near Indonesia, India wouldn't have given 2 $hit$ about the country being an i$ł@mįČ $hith0ł€
@@drno4603we are forced to meddle as Bangladeshi are fence jumpers with radical Islamic beliefs. Nobody in cares about your $hith0le country that fudges it's gdp numbers, it's anyway to going to fail soon
Apart from the whataboutery, your comments are not useful. India's secularism is still running through the veins and systems. Eventhough few people tried, it can never be replaced. Now, you cannot tell the same about Bangladesh. Progressive society and journalists wont support religious states. Thats all.
India is still a secular country-no matter whatever narrative you try to set, because the majority of its population are Hindus. But no muslim majority country can remain secular and it's the main point of conflict in Bangladesh. It's the conflict between the Islamist majority and secular minority.
Sir please make a video on whether Bangladesh will Choose China or US in future
Both. And will threaten India
Brilliant presentation,
Yes the jamaat, the islamist, the boogie man of the secular world 😅
The term "secularism" has been abused and manipulated the most in the context of pre-partitioned India (including present-day India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh). In reality, Hindus in India have become more insular and rabid, which has contributed to the rise of the BJP. In Pakistan, Muslims view their situation through the lens of the most regressive interpretation of Islam, and Bangladesh, in my view, at least, has a stronger track record of secularism compared to both India and Pakistan.
In India, Narendra Modi's rise to power has been fueled by hate politics. The BJP, founded on the ideology of Hindutva, has conducted malicious campaigns against Islam, Christianity, and communism. Consequently, India has lost its moral authority to lecture others on secularism. Pakistan, on the other hand, is a failed state with no clear direction. Pakistan means no hopes and expectations.
What is more concerning is Muslims in India, who are the most disenfranchised community, are particularly disadvantaged. The BJP lacks Muslim representation in parliament, and Muslims are in a worse situation than Dalits. Muslims in India face extreme levels of censorship; dissenting voices are stifled, passports are seized, and homes are destroyed by bulldozers. Human rights violations against Muslims are not even acknowledged. India has no right to lecture others on secularism. In Pakistan, Hindus face similar issues, and while Bangladesh has made positive strides, I support the people's movement against authoritarian figures like Sheikh Hasina. Hindutvas is as dangerous as taliban or any form of radical Islam, this is fact and India is not a secular country in sense of the term.
Bangladesh's treatment of minorities is considerably better than what minorities face in India and Pakistan.
U have been saying hindutva so many times...do u know in India that temples get attacked..as recently as in May in ahmedabad..in response Hindus don't attack mosques.. India is secular because Hindus are tolerant.. the second modi came because of the bad economics of congress.. hindutva had nothing to do... Foreign affairs and the economic modi government is doing well....if indian society as per you is so radical..how did BJP numbers come down below majority when Ram temple is built..which is a mecca of Hindus..solved 550 years old problem..so stop comparing India with Bangladesh... India is secular by nature because Hindus are..
Bangladesh did not make positive slides.. population of Hindus is reducing in this region from 33% in 1990 to 24% in 47 to 14% in 1971 to 7% now.. According to one prediction from Dhaka University..Hindus may Vanishree by 2050...
Muslim are in the worst condition because of Muslim leadership..they had enough representation before..Best example.. Hyderabad..whole of Hyderabad has improved but old city where only Muslim leaders win..They sometimes have the power to make State governments fall.. what do they do with power stop metro tracks to get into the old city..stop development as some shops have to be taken down.. other areas like Ameerpet they moved out created space for metro and no one played politics.. Muslim are not doing well blame Muslim leadership whose priority is religion not development
Oh yeah? Just to avoid that communal tension, we had 2 countries created in 1947 for a specific section of population because that community demanded.
Let's look at those 2 countries. In pakistan minority population from 20% is 2%. Bangladesh from 30% it's 6%.
In India you actually had the minority population increase. (And remember these are the same people who stayed back after demanding Pakistan).
So hey anyone who feels "claustrophobic" in India because they are apparently "discriminated" on the basis of faith can go to the country they demanded in 1947.
India has given away enough land.
Muslims have 5 to 6 kids per family and do not focus on education. Most are dropouts. Very few excel, and are indeed outstanding. No govt can help you. Dalits now focus on education and are improving themselves. Muslim culture of non-introspection keeps them backward and stagnant. Muslims who work in trades do make a decent money. Like an electrician, a plumber, a mechanic, a biryani chef these days earn a lakh or more. These people have more than 1 wife and about 8 kids, but how can 8 kids get the necessary parental focus? So most kids are off track, always blaming govt and throwing stones and destroying public property. Hence the bulldozers.
Sir, you are supposed to be in Indian, Pak and Bong's history textbooks.
Secularism is also a religion.
Secularism is not a religion, it is a mindset and attitude. I can be a Hindu and be secular in dealings with people of other religions. Islam has a problem as it urges Muslims to treat people of other religions as non-friends. Islam is incompatible with fairness.
@@dollartreeshark6786no point explaining anything to these guys
@@1008apocalypse1008 Really zombie braindeads
lol
*Nobody was ever Killed* for blasphemy to Secularism ... so, NO, it is not a religion.
Typical Hindus got upset😂😂😂. Indian servant ( Hasina ) fled to India from Bangladesh. Finally we got independence through revolution. Victory to the students and people. 💪💪💪.
Wherever parties to secure their rule . Always tie up with fringe or extreme groups . In bangladesh or pakistan case . The religious groups . Results are then lop sided
Please think about your own secularism first. So many riots in Gujarat on minorities and no justice yet
How many Muslim leave gujrat after ' somany riots in gujrat'?how many killings,rape,arsan and destruction of mosk happened after 1992 riot?
Indians, you cannot have Bangladesh! So stop talking. Your plight against Bangladeshis and exploiting them for the benefit of India ended with Hasina's cowardice fleeing to India. More and more of Hasina's victims have been found in different cells around the country. India, you have united all Bengalis: religious to secularists Bangladeshis to British Bangladeshis, and the most aggressive ones, the American Bangladeshis. With Dr. Yunus, he also has the backing of Western governments, just so Bangladesh doesn't get influenced by China.
We wish that culture prevails over religion. Ask the Jamat gangs and others who went after minorities. Same thing happened in 1971 .
Print please no false narrative. Some attacks on Hindus occured due to their alignment with Awami League. Many Awami leaders were also targeted at a time when there was no Government.
Islamists are patrolling round the clock guarding Hindu temples and assets. Please see video from Hindu Mahasabha president Gobindo Pramanik at Dhakeshari Mandir.
Talk about Modi regime and how people are suffering due to right wing.
Might be possible ameriica create a new country in between Bangladesh and Burma including a military base At Martin islands
Bangladesh is not a secular country.So why do you expect them to be that?
A Muslim dominated country cannot be secular.
😅😅where did you get this story
history of subcontinent....🧐🧐🧐
From PBUH's behind. 😂
Bangladesh is a Muslim country and it will remain so so India should keep inmind that. India should 5:15 respect and protect Muslims in India. India talks about Hindus in Bangladesh where Muslims in India were discriminated against and excluded.
India is a secular nation and that's engrained in our constitution unlike BD which is an Islamic country. That speaks for itself. Period.
Why not talk about Modi.
দাদা,
আমাদের দেশের কোন বিষয় নিয়ে আপনারা মাথা গরম করার দরকার নেই।
যতদ্রুত সম্ভব হাসিনা কে বাংলাদেশ ফেরত চাই
That religion of peace
"Religion of Humanitarianism"
Whever they exist, they enrich Humanity.. By making Nations Progressive, Secular and Loving.
Many things had missing
Liar
Search your mirror house and you will see Sheikh Hasina's true form😢😅
Hindu is relison?
আরে চুদির ভাই আগে কথা বলতে শিখে নে তারপর এখানে হাগতে আসবি। অশিক্ষিত দেশের অশিক্ষিত গান্ডু।
"Kukur er laij kokhuno shoja hoye na".
Bangali follows Devnagari script where each alphabet is a beej mantra of a diety. Therefore Bangali culture is fundamentally Hindu.
Hence those who are no longer Hindu are no longer Bangali either.
That's a fallacious argument, given you don't define what Hindu is. It's an umbrella 'socio-geo-political' term that refers to people living on lands beyond the river Indus. It's not what the Astika Schools of Dharma refer to, and certainly not to be covered completely by the Beejamantra. By your argument the people who belonged to the Nastika schools, and didn't go by any Beejamantra or any personalized form of Ishta (God) aren't Hindus either.
And the modern day Bengali is no more the one that had only the influence of Sanskrit or it's derivate languages like Magadhi Prakrit. Even though it is written using a Assamese-Bengali script which derives from the Devanagari (following the Abudiga writing system), it has several loan words from Perso-Arabic languages. And that has been the result of almost 800 years of Turko-Persian and Afghan empires in the Eastern part of Modern day India and Bangladesh, and also because of the arrival of several Islamic religious figures from the Middle East who came to spread their religious tenents. And many of them, and even the others were poets and musicologists, had written in Bengali and used Perso-Arabic loan words, which resulted in their works being assimilated in the Bengali literature (and also included several Perso-Arabic words to be included in the vocabulary). Even for that matter, Kazi Nazrul Islam (the one who is considered the Warrior Poet or Bidrohi Kobi), himself largely used Perso-Acabic words in his works. Some of the notable poetic works and hence songs, like "Rum Jhum Jhum Jhum Rum Jhum Jhum" could easily reveal the fact of the matter.
So, if you wish to make such a fallacious conclusion just like what Ms. Liaquat Ali Khan did out of his ignorance of the history and nitty-gritty of the Bengali language, well good luck!
Eveyone from Bangladesh "Report" this type of propaganda contents! 😐😐😐
lol
Imf loan
This Swami is more obcessed with neighboring country's records rather than what is with our country.I am yet to hear from him about Modi's or Sanghis "secularism".
China - > Communist Global Power
Israel -> Jewish Regional Power
India - > 🤡 Secualar Joke of a Nation full of Lunatic Left and Regressvie Commies
It is job profile to talk about other histories. Shekhar Gupta talks about India. So where is the problem ?
Bangladesh isn't anti hindu? Lol. And people who believe that aren't called andhbhakts🤣🤣.
If that was the case how did the minority population in the country come down from 30% to 8%?
The country in 1947 (I'm talking of east pakistan), was created on anti hindu lines.
Had the minority population in India dropped by even 1% all drama would've happned in our neighborhood.
30% when lindus ? stop propaganda
@@sirgg3847 alright. What was your minority population during independence? So it's 25% to 7%? 20% to 8%?
At the bare minimum it's still a 12% drop. And for a population that's big.
The way you addressed me by attacking my faith clearly shows what your culture is. Clearly shows why a certain section demanded pakistan.
Edit : and also clearly shows why still in India, they scream from the rooftops using loudspeakers screaming their god is the only divine being and no other God is real.
Thats tolerance right? When you scream publically through a loudspeaker that their god is the only true God and every other God is false? Remember this is when the majority faith in India is well over 75% atleast on paper.
@@chatcricket1405 the tolerence is when we allow lindus to follow their superstatious cults yet they are traitors
@@chatcricket1405 it was 7 mill hindus after 1971 war now its 2.5 crore
@@sirgg3847 give me your census numbers dude. Not made up stats. I'm going by your census numbers.
How much secular India is? The country which destroyed Babri Mosque and built ram mandir, now crying about secularism in Bangladesh.
Illegal property wheather a mandir or a masjid shall be dealt accordingly.
And how secular is india? We have had prime ministers, presidents ,chief of army of many minority communities..how many have you had ?
does the constituition says there is state religion???? can the major religion figures be mocked and getting acquiited based on fundamental rights??? can minorities land be taken in the name of vested properties act eenshrined in constituition if not then you should shut the F*** up and say anything about India!!!
We didn't demand seperate islamic nations exclusively for ourself you are the one who overwhelming voted for partition and shamelessly stayed back for leeching our resources making baby like rabbit for another piece of land in the name of another partition.
Whole world is fed up with desert cult.
Babri masjid itself was built after demolishing the temple. There are thousands of such examples of mosques built on other religions' temples and churches throughout history. But you see no wrong in it. It's only when people stand against such barbaric historical wrongs that you get triggered.
LOL the Mercedes built on the temple why you are so called Islamic invader
Ye bkl
We could write tens of thousands of pages on communal hatred and violence against other religious group in India.
Oh yeah?? Just to avoid that communal tension, we had 2 countries created in 1947 for a specific section of population because that community demanded.
Let's look at those 2 countries. In pakistan minority population from 20% is 2%. Bangladesh from 30% it's 6%.
In India you actually had the minority population increase. (And remember these are the same people who stayed back after demanding Pakistan).
So hey anyone who feels "claustrophobic" in India because they are apparently "discriminated" on the basis of faith can go to the country they demanded in 1947.
India has given away enough land.
I bet you don't live in India.
Politics is very complex and complicated affair. We can talk a lot, and accomplish nothing. Yes, ok to have BANGLADESH--- But Bengalis should not kill Bengalis---- it is not religious issue---- it is a political/economic issue. 😊
@@atiqrahman7289 you are the guys who demanded Bangladesh and Pakistan.
And bunch of hypocrites in your countries have laws which forbids minorites from becoming presidents and pms and lecture us on "tolerance".
@@atiqrahman7289 which section of population voted for Pakistan?
India is in no situation to criticize bangladesh.India has seen hundreds of riots against it's muslim population.They elected far right hindu nationalist and fascist BJP into power.Bhai how do you guys even come to lecture us.Protect secularism and muslims of your own country
have u ever lived in india? we have had muslim chief ministers, ministers, union ministres, president vice presidents, indian muslim industrualists and crorepatis are there till now. know the facts, how many top positions were given to non muslims in bangaldesh? retrospect before looking into india. india still allocated money to bangladesh in its annual budgets. whenever you mess up your economy or politics ,india is the neighbour which made you stable including your independence from west pakistan. bangladeshis like you are a disgrace.
Can you list those Riots ? Stop farting your opinions here. This IS an Indian Channel. WE will talk about anything we want. FO
@@Aragorneus Recent Delhi riots of 2019,The near everyday lynching of musims,2002 gujrat riots,90s bombay riots,babri mosque destruction.Just stop getting immersed about bangladesh and think about your own nation
@@thisisrafee8317take Bangladeshi muslims out of india
@@thisisrafee8317 😂😂😂😂 so you could list three over a couple of decades... I can list few hundred in the Last couple of years in Bangladesh. We don't give a flying f*ck about your existence... And again FO ... Fundamentalist, radicalists sav*ges ...the whole lot of you
Indians talk about secularism when it Fascist BJP and RSS goons has riped out every part of secularism and has made life and livelihood of Muslims miserable....
Gujrat roits, muzaffarnagar roits, mob lynching are examples. Demolation of religious places of Muslims are daily happening in india.
India should works on secularism at home first.....
Our democracy is much more vibrant that you can even imagine.
Bjp and rss are not a majority they are a coalition that's how parliamentary system should work with proper debates.
Name me one law that is against Muslims in general and progressive.
Name me incidents when writers who criticize bjp is murdered , only happens in non secular states.
That's why Muslims are multiplying in India. Each producing 20 kids. 25 percent of constituencies are Muslim dominant here. So please unlike in BD they are not a disappearing breed .
Oh yeah? Just to avoid that communal tension, we had 2 countries created in 1947 for a specific section of population because that community demanded.
Let's look at those 2 countries. In pakistan minority population from 20% is 2%. Bangladesh from 30% it's 6%.
In India you actually had the minority population increase. (And remember these are the same people who stayed back after demanding Pakistan).
So hey anyone who feels "claustrophobic" in India because they are apparently "discriminated" on the basis of faith can go to the country they demanded in 1947.
India has given away enough land.
What religious places of Muslims have been demolished?
Only focus on your country,
One sided stroy, even the India is not secrular. You need to see the actual story which you cant see sitting in india.
Adani😂
Print..kyu thak rahe ho..saaf saaf bol do..hinduo ne apne mandir aur ghal khud jala diye aur suicide karke mar gaye..hum maan lenge
Angrzi nahi aati toh chup baitho.
@@prashanthb6521 na .. main hindi mein hi theek hoon.. tu le le angrezo ka muh mein
So india is 100percent secular country? Then how come bjp in power? India have hindu religious party and muslim get tortured by cow mob.even low caste hindu people tortured..fix your problem first then point fingers at the others..
Well, they are not state journalists. They can talk about other issues..lol
@@malayalee123 I have been following the print for very long time they definitely serve the purpose of India political agendas..
@@mithunkhan937 I dont think so. I've noticed them being sensible in journalism
@@mithunkhan937 if india is not safe why Bangladeshi msulims in india by millions
Boring and Biased against Islam . Bengalis wanted Islamic fair state , what they got instead was British style state without Goras , Army dominated by Pathan generals , civil service dominated by UP, CP, Beharis and intellectual and civil life dominated by West pakistani shias and Ahmedis . Only in mid 1960s onward there was serious drive to recruit Bengalis in army and civil service . Before military rule in 1958 , PM ship was almost alternate between east and west pakistan and Bengalis enjoyed their usual three party provincial government political duel and also sent two federal ministers and alternate prime ministers to govern pakistan . Ayub stopped that creating serious political imbalance . Pathans love to act like messiahs and help break Pakistan by stopping musical chairs of PM ship between East and West Pakistan . It is not possible for a person professing islam to consider himself Bengali first and Muslim later , in that case he is hypocrite , worse than all . That is the structure of Islamic faith . Islam is not just a religion it is a superculture and nationalities are its subculture . You travel fro west africa to phillipines , you will find similar culture . Hence bombing in Gaza causes demonstrations in Malaysia and Turkey and USA . And south africa goes to world court . Hinduism has similar thing but on much much lesser scale , jews have more .
Disagree, culture of. Balkans, caucus, Turks, Malaysian, Azeris etc are different from Arabs as is of Persians.
Differences are superficial when some have tribal societies ..At the core it is very similar
Entire sunni ummah has american bases
@@Myanmartiger921 Rising power of USSR post WW2 had a lot to do with it as Muslims were their next door neighbours . Hence entry of USA in Turkey , Iran , Pakistan , and in South east asia owing to USSR ally China . In middle east because oil wealth needed guardians . But now none of them are needed so much . Most of the high population muslim countries have resources to build nukes themselves .
kya purana news dete rehte ho....we want breaking news
You cannot have islamic majority with secularism..... First understand the fact
Mamta Banerji's favourite society
yes india is the secular paradise lol. we will rule our country as we see fit, you have thousands of problems of your own; go fix them first
The people of the Hindh-Pak and now BD inclusive are never secular but economically selfish and are always looking for opportune lucre.