Cheap Way to Play Vinyl Records on Sonos
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- A convenient and affordable way to use your old turntable with your Sonos setup!
While this probably won't give you that audiophile-approved top class audio - it suits my needs. The potential quality drop is balanced out by the low price point and the simplicity.
Again - huge thanks to replayreb for the tutorial!
// Links
* Tutorial by replayreb: www.instructab...
* Icecast: icecast.org/
* Darkice: www.darkice.org/
// Hardware
* Technics SL-1200MK2
* Behringer UFO202
* Any decent Raspberry Pi
* Sonos
// Attributions
Scratch Bastid from Scribble Jam 2003: • scribble jam 2003 (skr...
Parkway Drive - Atlas
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Instagram: / engineerish
As someone who was looking for away to use a turntable without spending 400+ on a Sonos port/amp, Thank You
Haha "the sweet sound of dust", you had me laughing there!
Came to say this is genius. I know nothing but PI but really wanna give it a try.
Any idea how the sound quality of this compares to using one of the Sonos solutions like Port? Is the sound quality better than just using Spotify? Thanks!
The MP3 stream from Darkice is configured at a constant 320 kbps bitrate. Spotify varies their bitrate according to your selection and your network conditions. Spotify's "High quality" mode (if you pay for Spotify it's an option) is 320 kbps, but that can drop if you have network congestion, Spotify will switch to a lower quality in order to keep it streaming. If you used a fully Sonos solution (Amp or Port or Play:5) you could connect your turntable directly through (or via pre-amp to line in) the line-in on the Amp/Port/Play:5 and output the sound uncompressed, but that would only work reliably for the speakers that are actually wired in. If you use wireless speakers at all with it, you might the uncompressed stream would be only as reliable as your WiFi's capacity, so it might get choppy. In most cases you'd tell the Sonos app to compress the turntable's line in; and Sonos would compress to 320kbps anyway (using SBC codec).
So, it depends on your setup. In most cases it would sound roughly the same as Spotify (or better). Unless you have great hearing, and you know what to listen for most people can't hear much difference between lossless and 320 kpbs compressed format MP3.
@@theoneness But does the pre-amp sound okay? If there input isn't getting processed great then it doesn't matter what the bitrate is coming out - would love to know if you've noticed any loss in quality also
It seems I’m having some issues with icecast2. Did anyone get stuck at the end with no status in the ip web page?
Awesome video! I can use this for anything I guess, not just a turntable. :D
Absolutely :)
This is brilliant however I also see the side effect of downgrading to mp3.
I really want some way to pass my .flac files through a tube amp like the Little Dot 1+ to my Sonos setup.
Is there anyway to mix your Raspberry Pi mod with ab obsolete Sonos Bridge?
Does this still work in Dec 2021?
Is this compatible with the latest sonos “s2” app?
Great value content, whats the audio latency like with this config?
Way to stream this in lossless and not lossy mp3?
This video was worth it, if only for the sake of that Behringer preamp! I wish I'd known about this earlier! And now I can connect it to my Pi too! ;-)
What is the minimum specs for the rasberry . Will a vers 3 be enough?
Does this setup still work?
@Jannick Holm I took the dive last night as well and it works as expected.
Works this with the IKEA speaker too?
Unfortunelly, when i go on my ip of icecast and select the SERVER STATUS, there is nothing, a plain black page.... can you help me? thankyou..
Excellent! Helped me both with this and with a completely different application! I wasn't aware of Darkice and Icecast. Many thanks for the video.
Is the latency due mostly to the compression process? I'm wondering what the config files should look like or what other requirements you would need if you did not want to compress the audio. A low latency/high bandwidth alternative would be so nice.
You are listening to a record, not playing a game. Why would let's say a 1 second latency be an issue?
@@marcelgommans2020 maybe for DJing?
Will this still work today?
Shouldn't be an issue. You can still add a radio station to the sonos app, and ice cast and dark ice are still working.
wouldnt this method also work with TV? awesome!
yes it would, but be aware of noticeable delay in audio.
Yeah the delay is real!
Would you sell one of these set ups ? Without the turntable ??
Wait, this is the easiest way?
would the Arylic S10 work? www.arylic.com/products/s10-wireless-preamplifier?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_pid=4409582747733&pr_ref_pid=4475003306069&pr_seq=uniform
@@trevororr5494 did you ever try this?
@@grahambailey790 no i have not. Gonna just buy the wife a Sonos vinyl player.
What was the song at the end
whats the latency like?
could this be used for a tv audio or is their a delay
Did you choose the ufo202 b/c your turntable didn’t have a preamp? Am I ok using the UCA202 of mine has a preamp built in?
I didn't need the UFO202 because I preamp before that. If you have an integrated preamp, you're probably good going for a cheaper audio to usb device. Lots of dirt cheap off brand ones on Amazon, that's all I went with.
What is that digital text clock/app in the first 0:02 second in. app or can you buy it somewhere? please advise thanks!
It's a little website I made a while back; wordclock.io/
Thanks for making this video! I have the same situation and I was thinking in plugging an ethernet cable into a hmdi dungle, and this into a RCA cable, do you think it could work? or nice try?
Do you tried it and did it work?
@@Ben-wi2md I don’t think it would worked, I followed the video instructions and it’s working fine!
I simply use a chinch that I plug to my play 5 which I use to stream whatever is playing on turntables. Cable cost is like 3$ and you do not need any skills whatsoever.
Tom Guttmann yeah a play 5, amp or connect is a more convenient, but also a bit pricier
Hi. Is it possible to connect my turntable to Behringer and to my receiver? So i can choose if i would like to play on my sonos speaker or my old speaker that is connected to my receiver. How will i then connect all my cables. Thanks for at great video.
Hmm I don't know. Perhaps there is some sort of switch out there that could do something like that :/
Your receiver should hopefully have a “tape out” or similar rca/line out. Connect turntable to receiver and then from receiver to usb interface. Bingo, and then on the receiver you should be able to turn off the speakers connected to it if you only want Sonos speakers
Huh?
would be neat to try and automatically tune into the "station" when the turntable starts, I tried this awhile ago and having to take out my phone and open an app really does kill the analog vibe
Alan Paone that’s very true! I haven’t checked out the Sonos API but should be doable!
Do you have any advice for hooking Sonos speakers up to a *bluetooth* turntable, by chance??
Connect the turntable to a Roam via bluetooth.
@@nicka113 I have Sonos One is there another way? I don’t have a Roam
@@isabelrobeson8377 nope, only a Roam or Move or will connect via bluetooth.
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Jepp ✌️
Cool idea but defeats the purpose of playing "analog" vinyl
raT_Ttat agree 👍
This is very, very smart
is there any way of connecting your technics without wiring to a sonos product?
Bookshelf preamp speakers
Hey, what about the delay between your input on the Raspberry and the sound coming out of the sonos player?
L N. A couple of seconds - so not great!
@@engineerish And have you tried to not Convert from WAV to mp3 but streaming .wav directly into the Network? I know that the Sonos website says that .wav for radio stations is not supported, but for me it works sometimes. Maybe you'll give a try to eliminate the delay
I have an USB turntable, is it possible to use it directly without behringer adapter?
blanco21100 sounds like it would work, give it a try and let me know :)
Did it work with usb?
@@tijndeheer387 Hey Tijn, Did you test it too with a USB turntable. I really want to know if that works before I even buy a turntable :-) Thanks in advance.
@@bjorndegroot4654 yes I have tested it and it works perfectly. I used a audio technica at-lp120X and a Lenoco LS-50 and both worked fine.
Kreator?
Nope
hey and some cool music in the end, this video has it all
Song??
What I play on vinyl is Parkway Drive - Old Ghost/New Regrets from the album "Atlas"
Sonos sucks, they are leaches for your data... A simple Bluetooth system is much better unless you like hours of updates with no ability to shut it off.
How's the sound quality using this technique? It seems like through all the many stages of compression, conversion and streaming that it will drop significantly?
Personally I think it was totally listenable. However if sound quality is something you’re really after, I’d suggest a different approach
.. and different speakers.
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