Not sure what kind of pistol you have but taccom3g makes a custom plate to mount that sight straight to the pistol. I know for sure he makes them for the SW victory.
What do you think of an adult starting with a factory 10-22 "compact" model versus a full size version. Any advantage or disadvantage to that? (For reference, heights of 5'7" to 5'11".) The compact has a 16" barrel and a 12.5" LOP with a modular stock.
The biggest factor that will affect your length of pull is the stance you use. I'm 6 feet, and my normal length of pull is 14.5, but in Steel Challenge, I stand more squared off and have my stock set at about 13in LOP. When you stand squared to the target, you generally need less LOP vs. standing in a more traditional rifle stance. So if you plan to use a more squared stance, which I think helps pivot better than you should be good, but if you use a more traditional rifle stance, it is going to be a touch short for your 5'7" and even more for your 5'11".
@@jameslaney2097 just thought of something. While the stock is modular, I don't think it has spacers to change LOP. I think the four options are long or short and tall comb or low comb. When I stand with a 16" AR, it's comfortable with the stock only one notch out from minimum. Although the pistol grip probably helps with that. (It's pretty heavy to swing though!)
Hey James. Great video. Thank you. I'm just getting started in steel challenge. I have a Ruger 10/22 I'd like to do a couple things to. I like you stock; however, I cannot find it. Can you point me to it online?
That's a good looking maneuverable rifle! I found your video while looking for a small / light weight chassis for my wife to plink with. I was already considering the Blackhawk Axiom stock. Would your rifle be a practical choice for rabbit hunting in the winter? I realize it's made primarily for steel challenges and quick transition, but do you think a Ruger 16.5 steel heavy barrel would be a no go? Thanks James.
Hi Terry, I think the stock would be great for plinking, squirrel or rabbit with a light weight barrel but not a heavy barrel. A heavy steel barrel would cause it to have very forward balance point probably 5-6 inches in front of the receiver depending on what type of optic you used. I don't think I would go any heavier than a tapered steel barrel with this stock and that might even be pushing it.
@@jameslaney2097 I think you're right. The way your rifle is configured with that sweet "ultra light bull barrel" is beautiful...however a bit too pricey for us. Somehow I don't think a skinny 18.5" tapered barrel would have the same appeal as yours. LOL This video was very informative and well done. Thanks man.
Axiom Blackhawk 10/22 stock is very good . I built a 10/22 with KIDD ULW and KIDD single stage trigger for my son to start shooting in project Appleseed . The collapsible stock and lightweight grow with him . He started out at 12 years old and progress until shooting AR15 at Talladega CMP range at 600 yards . I’m might use his KIDD ULW and axiom and sign up for steel challenge 😁
The folks at Blackhawk told me you weren’t able to swap out the butt stock. Is it as simple as swapping one out on a AR? I much prefer the one you’re using.
So just like swapping one out on a regular AR buffer tube. Right? Not sure why they talked me out of doing it. BTW: this is also my Steel Plate set up.
Hi Terry, that is an MFT Battlelink Minimalist stock that I had laying around. They are widely available for $40-50 online and local stores like bass pro or academy.
Thanks. I’ve just started the steel challenge shooting, too. I have a Ruger Mark IV that I shoot with iron sights. I’ve made several modifications which have really improved performance. I want to move into the rifle division and your video proved very helpful. I haven’t purchased a 10/22 yet, but will this weekend. Any advice on what to look for/model? I will be modifying as you did and I will be shooting with a red dot.
@Terry Burgess I would pick up the cheapest one you can find as you will be stripping everything off of it. You might check out S&P Outfitters, they sell just the reciever assembly and that might save you a little bit.
There are now a couple barrel manufacturers that are producing sub 10oz barrels with the lightest being about 5oz. Seems the buyers love them but per your discussion of balance it would seem that these ultralight barrels make the gun very muzzle light. Do you have any experience with barrels that light? Any thoughts about dropping that much barrel weight? Thanks.
I've seen quite a few of them and handled a couple, overall I'm not a big fan of them. All of the ones that I'm aware of use something along the lines of a thin fluted 5in barrel with an aluminum shroud. My reason for not liking them is that you will always have left over solvent and oil at the crown where you can't get to easily. I initially thought they might have trouble with the timers because the shot might be muffled but that doesn't seem to be a problem. From a balance standpoint most that I have seen were using a chassis system with a very minimalist carbon fiber tube and plate for the buttstock so they have a pretty neutral balance since all of the weight is in the middle. If you are thinking of going that route just put alot of thought into it as you could end up with a very unbalanced rifle. The forend and buttstock will need to be thought out carefully as some chassis don't have a forend and some do and that could affect your buttstock choice. By the time you add all of the stuff to a chassis most of time they still in the 3lb range.
@@jameslaney2097 Very helpful. Thank you. If you’re willing to render another opinion - With an Axiom stock, would a Briley at 10oz or KIDD ULW at 20 oz balance better? TIA.
@@eristicfreethinker2098 I think you could get either of those to work with the axiom. The axiom stock offers alot of adjustment and value. Just keep in mind with it, adjusting the buttstock in and out does affect balance but you can add weight easily to the back and in the case of the Briley barrel if it is threaded you can always add a heavier compensator if needed. Of those two barrels I would choose the Kidd though as like Volquartsen they use Lothar Walter blanks.
Really excellent info. Loads of useful tips
Thanks James. Excellent video.
Awesome video brother
Thanks 👍
Great video. Thank you.
Not sure what kind of pistol you have but taccom3g makes a custom plate to mount that sight straight to the pistol. I know for sure he makes them for the SW victory.
What do you think of an adult starting with a factory 10-22 "compact" model versus a full size version. Any advantage or disadvantage to that? (For reference, heights of 5'7" to 5'11".) The compact has a 16" barrel and a 12.5" LOP with a modular stock.
The biggest factor that will affect your length of pull is the stance you use. I'm 6 feet, and my normal length of pull is 14.5, but in Steel Challenge, I stand more squared off and have my stock set at about 13in LOP. When you stand squared to the target, you generally need less LOP vs. standing in a more traditional rifle stance. So if you plan to use a more squared stance, which I think helps pivot better than you should be good, but if you use a more traditional rifle stance, it is going to be a touch short for your 5'7" and even more for your 5'11".
@@jameslaney2097 just thought of something. While the stock is modular, I don't think it has spacers to change LOP. I think the four options are long or short and tall comb or low comb.
When I stand with a 16" AR, it's comfortable with the stock only one notch out from minimum. Although the pistol grip probably helps with that. (It's pretty heavy to swing though!)
Hey James. Great video. Thank you. I'm just getting started in steel challenge. I have a Ruger 10/22 I'd like to do a couple things to. I like you stock; however, I cannot find it. Can you point me to it online?
Carbon barrel 340/stripped receiver 90/trigger assembly ??/Picatinny rail 40 /stock 75/adjustable Butt 60/Seymour optic used 80?
That's a good looking maneuverable rifle! I found your video while looking for a small / light weight chassis for my wife to plink with. I was already considering the Blackhawk Axiom stock. Would your rifle be a practical choice for rabbit hunting in the winter? I realize it's made primarily for steel challenges and quick transition, but do you think a Ruger 16.5 steel heavy barrel would be a no go? Thanks James.
Hi Terry, I think the stock would be great for plinking, squirrel or rabbit with a light weight barrel but not a heavy barrel. A heavy steel barrel would cause it to have very forward balance point probably 5-6 inches in front of the receiver depending on what type of optic you used. I don't think I would go any heavier than a tapered steel barrel with this stock and that might even be pushing it.
@@jameslaney2097 I think you're right. The way your rifle is configured with that sweet "ultra light bull barrel" is beautiful...however a bit too pricey for us. Somehow I don't think a skinny 18.5" tapered barrel would have the same appeal as yours. LOL This video was very informative and well done. Thanks man.
Axiom Blackhawk 10/22 stock is very good .
I built a 10/22 with KIDD ULW and KIDD single stage trigger for my son to start shooting in project Appleseed .
The collapsible stock and lightweight grow with him .
He started out at 12 years old and progress until shooting AR15 at Talladega CMP range at 600 yards .
I’m might use his KIDD ULW and axiom and sign up for steel challenge 😁
I have a stock taper barrel in the Axiom stock and it works well.
Can you turn the dot off and just have the circle? If yes, have you tried running it like that?
Thank you
It has three reticle choices: a circle/dot, dot, or circle. I have tried it with each reticle and perfer the circle and dot.
@@jameslaney2097 thank you
The folks at Blackhawk told me you weren’t able to swap out the butt stock. Is it as simple as swapping one out on a AR? I much prefer the one you’re using.
Hi Richard, it was that simple on mine.
So just like swapping one out on a regular AR buffer tube. Right? Not sure why they talked me out of doing it. BTW: this is also my Steel Plate set up.
@richardjuneau9861 yes mine was just like a regular buffer tube, lift the pin and slide the stock off. Took me 30 seconds.
I found the Blackhawk axiom stock on Amazon, but where did you buy the curved butt stock? Thanks!
Hi Terry, that is an MFT Battlelink Minimalist stock that I had laying around. They are widely available for $40-50 online and local stores like bass pro or academy.
Thanks. I’ve just started the steel challenge shooting, too. I have a Ruger Mark IV that I shoot with iron sights. I’ve made several modifications which have really improved performance. I want to move into the rifle division and your video proved very helpful. I haven’t purchased a 10/22 yet, but will this weekend. Any advice on what to look for/model? I will be modifying as you did and I will be shooting with a red dot.
@Terry Burgess I would pick up the cheapest one you can find as you will be stripping everything off of it. You might check out S&P Outfitters, they sell just the reciever assembly and that might save you a little bit.
Can you please provide a link to Axiom stock?
does that sight retain zero between reticles
Yes it does.
There are now a couple barrel manufacturers that are producing sub 10oz barrels with the lightest being about 5oz. Seems the buyers love them but per your discussion of balance it would seem that these ultralight barrels make the gun very muzzle light. Do you have any experience with barrels that light? Any thoughts about dropping that much barrel weight? Thanks.
I've seen quite a few of them and handled a couple, overall I'm not a big fan of them. All of the ones that I'm aware of use something along the lines of a thin fluted 5in barrel with an aluminum shroud. My reason for not liking them is that you will always have left over solvent and oil at the crown where you can't get to easily. I initially thought they might have trouble with the timers because the shot might be muffled but that doesn't seem to be a problem.
From a balance standpoint most that I have seen were using a chassis system with a very minimalist carbon fiber tube and plate for the buttstock so they have a pretty neutral balance since all of the weight is in the middle. If you are thinking of going that route just put alot of thought into it as you could end up with a very unbalanced rifle. The forend and buttstock will need to be thought out carefully as some chassis don't have a forend and some do and that could affect your buttstock choice. By the time you add all of the stuff to a chassis most of time they still in the 3lb range.
@@jameslaney2097 Very helpful. Thank you. If you’re willing to render another opinion - With an Axiom stock, would a Briley at 10oz or KIDD ULW at 20 oz balance better? TIA.
@@eristicfreethinker2098 I think you could get either of those to work with the axiom. The axiom stock offers alot of adjustment and value. Just keep in mind with it, adjusting the buttstock in and out does affect balance but you can add weight easily to the back and in the case of the Briley barrel if it is threaded you can always add a heavier compensator if needed. Of those two barrels I would choose the Kidd though as like Volquartsen they use Lothar Walter blanks.
@@jameslaney2097 Thanks
Are you running the stock receiver and bolt?
Yes, but they have been modified some.
Is this left handed?
It is ambidextrous, but I am lefthanded.
Looks like it would be a very informative video but the audio is terrible, hum and low gain.
Copy that. Thanks James.