Low B-Top of C In a match without sp attackers and not much burst damage Scizor can be incredible, but if the match is full of sp.atkers and burst damage, you can be quite useless
@@oxygen3143Yeah, sacred sword gives a 20% atk buff and ignores 15% enemy def. Bullet punch+ gives a shield to help with that, plus Scizor has base 510 defense same as Mamoswine.
Bullet punch is too broken too. The way scizor is way bulky for an allrounder and has a good mobility. Great unite move. Great hp recovery. 😭😭 this is s tier mon for me.
I feel like Scizor is S tier material, but the meta just shoots down any chance it could have at reaching that level. High damage, high sustain, very tanky, absurd mobility and an option to trade that mobility for more burst. The only problem here is that none of that matters in a meta where one stun move can ultimately combo into a 100 to 0 with no counterplay. Which is why the way I would buff the character is by making it unstoppable during it's dashes. Double Hit's initial dash, Swords Dance's initial dash and Bullet Punches Initial dash. Maybe even Scyther's Dual Wingbeat dash? If you want more, then just increasing Swords Dance's duration by 0.5 to maybe even 1 whole second would be great too. But something like making Double Hit resets also give small heals or literally anything related to damage might be leaning towards the overbuff field. However Double Hit healing on reset might be really good for Scyther?
Scizor is definitely good but yeah sp. Attacker is his big weakness. As a matter of fact, I faced up against a really good laning scizor as a mimikyu. It's a 3v1 where the scizor had Pikachu and decidueye as back up. I managed to kill both Pikachu and Decidueye but I lost against the scizor with him having like 2% of hp. Even then that Scizor managed to kill 2 of my teammates that was too busy farming than to help me.
As someone who likes playing scizor its B tier, and i was one of the people who commented wanting it moved up a tier. Scizor has really good survivability with bullet punch which is massively boosted by swords dance along with having double hit with cooldown resets and mobility. Plus its unite move is strong. However like you mentioned it has glaring weaknesses to long distance pokemon and with the meta being things like mew and inteleon it gets sort of drowned out. And that is why its B tier even though it seems like it should be stronger. (Also im not sure if you have tried this but if you go bullet punch, swords dance, X attack your healing and damage gets boosted so much that one bullt punch can heal like over half your health)
Energy amp with Scizor’s unite does so much damage to your target, though I’ll admit I only play energy amp with Scizor in case for when I have to play scyther
kinda weird that i only played scizor from returning trial but i much prefer double hits mobility over SD, i would probably do SD when my opponent is stupid enough to pick 5 physical attackers or 5 adcs (most supports are special attackers anyways they dont really out damage your sustain unless you get ganked hard). i wish they would buff scyther though it feels like a squish executor but it cant really do that in such an allrounder dominant meta but does well vs mages if played perfectly which is very rare to see and i want to see scizor more in tournaments as well because of the mindgames. (they kind of exist with shifu but water bear gives you the best lvl 5 spike so its almost always picked)
Scizor is one of my comfort picks. I like the rhythm of just bullet punching, and then using double hit and unite move to catch some squishies. Just don't fall behind in experience or jump in the middle of a team fight.
MY MAN! As one of the guys who challenged your opinion on your last tierlist, I really appreciate you showing some love to my favorite mon. I do recognize there's some major downsides to playing Scizor in this meta, but I think he feels very rewarding to play as an all rounder that can chase down with double hit over swords dance
If you compare Scizor to M2, you'll actually see a lot of similarities so it's no surprise you see more M2 than Scizor haha. I'd categorize M2 as an All-Rounder like Scizor since he's so beefy regardless of range. M2 does more AoE damage, but Scizor can almost match it using Swords Dance plus he has more immediate burst. Their main difference is in their Unites; M2 has a global, whereas Scizor can use his as an extra dash or to try and snipe carries. Scizor is also the best Razor Claw user in the game, able to slow people with it naturally and on cooldown. M2 has more power at a longer range, whereas Scizor has finesse and functions a bit more like a Speedster.
Scyther was Speedster type of All-rounder that used in Top lane, while Scizor was meant in Bot lane. But, I prefer Scyther because of Fast Farming Skills and Burst Unite Move for Squishies.
Its honestly really bad i hate it most people are really bad on in here in India Take my buffs (im still stuck on level 6 Delphox) Go jungle when there is a deci laning with me (Im exp share support) The deci ends up doing like 80k and the scizor? Barely 50k Backcaps, bad fights all characterize scizor players and I hate them Unless im new where i just blast them every single time to my heart's happiness
S tier against meele team, c tier against ranged sp attacker team.. but if teammates let it farm level and defense stack, even if you are ranged it s still so difficult to kill..
As a scizor main dud just kind of gets outclassed by a bunch of other all-rounders especially since he doesn't have stun aside from his unite move and a honestly not that noticeable slow on his boosted attacks he's kind of just mid plus I feel like he's in the realm of kind of where a really bad scizor is really bad but a good one is really good
Yeah, i really dont like fighting scizor. Passive damage reduction, high damage and lots of healing with great movement options? Thats at least worth A or S.
i just met some crazy high lifesteal opponent scizzor .. and im using scyther trying to burst him down but i just can his hp keep regen especially when bad teammates lets him punch them bodies 😂😂
I only play double hit think its for sure the better move although you might deal less dps also i think scizor is verry underestimated and could use a nice buff
I feel like the only reason why scizor struggle because teammates purposely take farm from Scizor. It's like they react saying why did you pick this pokemon. IDK if this really is a thing but I feel like whenever I play that Pokemon people on my team never really support at all
No, people are wrong, scizor is not better than you said before. That clefable made it feel better but scizor is actually incredibly squishy despite what people want you to think. Spc attackers eat it alive and they run the game for the most part. BP takes way too long to actually be good and one stun during it can cause you to lose fights. Scyther is way better and scizor is also incredibly boring to play. I say this as someone whos only mon with a badge is scizor/scyther and hes my main. People are wrong, scizor is still bad.
You aren't playing optimal scizor. Try him central lane, get evolve off first clear, use overwhelming Advantage in power to bully a lane into irrelevance, then counter jungle. You are stronger way earlier. Razor claw, weakness policy, muscle band, or change out muscle for attack weight , you can get all stacks while bullying the laners. It pains me to see scizor played like this, 48% winrate. I have a 66% winrate with scizor, TsunWukong is the username.
I definitely think Scizor gets thrown too low in tier lists, I don't know why people think it's so bad to the point of being one of the worst in the game?? Scizor is definitely solid
where would you put Scizor in a tier list?
B
Low B-Top of C
In a match without sp attackers and not much burst damage Scizor can be incredible, but if the match is full of sp.atkers and burst damage, you can be quite useless
B. It is a lot better because mewtwo Y was nerfed
The Mewtwo Y nerf helped but it’s still in a pretty awkward spot. Scizor either feels amazing or slightly underwhelming whenever I play with it
We can keep it in A..
I love the mobility of double hit and it's so satisfying when you get a reset
With zacian and mewtwo x being top picks, the defenses can be quiet helpful
Doesn’t Zacian’s Sacred Sword partially ignore defense?
@@oxygen3143Yeah, sacred sword gives a 20% atk buff and ignores 15% enemy def. Bullet punch+ gives a shield to help with that, plus Scizor has base 510 defense same as Mamoswine.
Bullet punch is too broken too. The way scizor is way bulky for an allrounder and has a good mobility. Great unite move. Great hp recovery. 😭😭 this is s tier mon for me.
I agree
LMAO no just no.
I feel like Scizor is S tier material, but the meta just shoots down any chance it could have at reaching that level. High damage, high sustain, very tanky, absurd mobility and an option to trade that mobility for more burst. The only problem here is that none of that matters in a meta where one stun move can ultimately combo into a 100 to 0 with no counterplay. Which is why the way I would buff the character is by making it unstoppable during it's dashes. Double Hit's initial dash, Swords Dance's initial dash and Bullet Punches Initial dash. Maybe even Scyther's Dual Wingbeat dash? If you want more, then just increasing Swords Dance's duration by 0.5 to maybe even 1 whole second would be great too. But something like making Double Hit resets also give small heals or literally anything related to damage might be leaning towards the overbuff field. However Double Hit healing on reset might be really good for Scyther?
Scizor is definitely good but yeah sp. Attacker is his big weakness. As a matter of fact, I faced up against a really good laning scizor as a mimikyu. It's a 3v1 where the scizor had Pikachu and decidueye as back up. I managed to kill both Pikachu and Decidueye but I lost against the scizor with him having like 2% of hp. Even then that Scizor managed to kill 2 of my teammates that was too busy farming than to help me.
As someone who likes playing scizor its B tier, and i was one of the people who commented wanting it moved up a tier. Scizor has really good survivability with bullet punch which is massively boosted by swords dance along with having double hit with cooldown resets and mobility. Plus its unite move is strong. However like you mentioned it has glaring weaknesses to long distance pokemon and with the meta being things like mew and inteleon it gets sort of drowned out. And that is why its B tier even though it seems like it should be stronger. (Also im not sure if you have tried this but if you go bullet punch, swords dance, X attack your healing and damage gets boosted so much that one bullt punch can heal like over half your health)
Scizor is always fun to play. Whether you use Double Hit or Sword Dance.
Energy amp with Scizor’s unite does so much damage to your target, though I’ll admit I only play energy amp with Scizor in case for when I have to play scyther
energy amp does that to any Pokémon tho..
@@hotlikesauce Yes but it works really well with scyther and it’s dual wingbeat resets with double hit
kinda weird that i only played scizor from returning trial but i much prefer double hits mobility over SD, i would probably do SD when my opponent is stupid enough to pick 5 physical attackers or 5 adcs (most supports are special attackers anyways they dont really out damage your sustain unless you get ganked hard).
i wish they would buff scyther though it feels like a squish executor but it cant really do that in such an allrounder dominant meta but does well vs mages if played perfectly which is very rare to see and i want to see scizor more in tournaments as well because of the mindgames. (they kind of exist with shifu but water bear gives you the best lvl 5 spike so its almost always picked)
Use weakness policy , focus band and scope then see the magic
8:36 I know that feeling cris.. That's why I cant believe scizor unite auto click..
Scizor is one of my comfort picks. I like the rhythm of just bullet punching, and then using double hit and unite move to catch some squishies. Just don't fall behind in experience or jump in the middle of a team fight.
so play farm simulator for 8 mins & be useless at Ray?
@@hotlikesauce just be a bit sneaky at ray, find a damage dealer and unite them. Works for me more often than not
3:27 Clefable being a savage and saying OK to the tilted Pika's "thanks" lmao
i do this too lol they deserve it
My go to Pokemon is him. The confidence scizor gives me early game is so amazing
MY MAN! As one of the guys who challenged your opinion on your last tierlist, I really appreciate you showing some love to my favorite mon. I do recognize there's some major downsides to playing Scizor in this meta, but I think he feels very rewarding to play as an all rounder that can chase down with double hit over swords dance
If you compare Scizor to M2, you'll actually see a lot of similarities so it's no surprise you see more M2 than Scizor haha. I'd categorize M2 as an All-Rounder like Scizor since he's so beefy regardless of range. M2 does more AoE damage, but Scizor can almost match it using Swords Dance plus he has more immediate burst.
Their main difference is in their Unites; M2 has a global, whereas Scizor can use his as an extra dash or to try and snipe carries. Scizor is also the best Razor Claw user in the game, able to slow people with it naturally and on cooldown. M2 has more power at a longer range, whereas Scizor has finesse and functions a bit more like a Speedster.
Scizor has been a hidden gem this season. Has helped me get up to Ultra 1 from Ultra 4 with consistent wins
I take scizor when soloQ teammates look useless as gambling on 1 or 2 sp. attackers, more than that it's very hard to manage
Scyther was Speedster type of All-rounder that used in Top lane, while Scizor was meant in Bot lane. But, I prefer Scyther because of Fast Farming Skills and Burst Unite Move for Squishies.
Its honestly really bad i hate it most people are really bad on in here in India
Take my buffs (im still stuck on level 6 Delphox)
Go jungle when there is a deci laning with me
(Im exp share support)
The deci ends up doing like 80k and the scizor? Barely 50k
Backcaps, bad fights all characterize scizor players and I hate them
Unless im new where i just blast them every single time to my heart's happiness
Focus Band is obligatory on him, helps him against special attackers.
S tier against meele team, c tier against ranged sp attacker team.. but if teammates let it farm level and defense stack, even if you are ranged it s still so difficult to kill..
It's weird being from the west coast and actually remembering watching this stream. I think it was like 3 am for me
As a very biased Scizor one trick main, yes, he is much better than what your tier list suggested.
I love using eject button on double hit scizor. Its feels so good to be able to catch anyone.
I just finished a game with buzzwole. 23 ko and 145k damage. It's feel so good when you get a good supporter
8:36 the reason why I stopped playing scizor😢😢
Ahhh I knew you'd come around! Also you are an AMAZING Scizor player. Your teamfight execution is top notch.
Gets shields and HP. Immense All-Rounder mobility. Strong damage
C-tier for sure
Fr
God counter against physical attackers, gonna go up on meta this patch (mewtwo X, azumarill, KFC, mimikyu)
Scizor is good but only if he is in a right hands 👐
As a scizor main dud just kind of gets outclassed by a bunch of other all-rounders especially since he doesn't have stun aside from his unite move and a honestly not that noticeable slow on his boosted attacks he's kind of just mid plus I feel like he's in the realm of kind of where a really bad scizor is really bad but a good one is really good
Yeah, i really dont like fighting scizor. Passive damage reduction, high damage and lots of healing with great movement options? Thats at least worth A or S.
i just met some crazy high lifesteal opponent scizzor .. and im using scyther trying to burst him down but i just can his hp keep regen especially when bad teammates lets him punch them bodies 😂😂
i was waiting for a scizor video , thanks cris
Sword dance for melee heavy enemy team. Double hit for ranged heavy enemy team
I only play double hit think its for sure the better move although you might deal less dps also i think scizor is verry underestimated and could use a nice buff
As a Kha'zix main, I played double hit since day 01
I have been saying that , idk why everyone underrates scissor
I feel like the only reason why scizor struggle because teammates purposely take farm from Scizor. It's like they react saying why did you pick this pokemon. IDK if this really is a thing but I feel like whenever I play that Pokemon people on my team never really support at all
Yeah i love Double hit hecause if they try to run, even with Eject button they cant escape most of the time
I found this mon always good it gives good amount of damage heals as well
Mimikyu feels like a buffed Scizor
They need to add another scyther that evolves into kleavor.
I don't even know what to say to that 😔
Got my first scyther penta last night
Will u check out Charizard's fire punch and its cool down I know u'll make it look like it should ijs it slept on
If you are someone who like scizors never dies play style try playing muddy water acid spray goodra wuth potion its much better than scizor
8:57 wft was that explosion on gardevoir?
Scizor bullet punch is dummy. It can eat heath bars. But isn't broken just too good.
It’s the healing his healing makes him a good Mon I’d say he’s B maybe low A
When was the last time you played Liquidation Intel?
ruclips.net/video/r4lhCvYFZG8/видео.html here is a video from this week
I knew sizor was better than that it's been consistently good for a while
I hate razor claw as an item. I want to believe its a great item, I know it is. But I always convice myself its not worth using
I personally have pretty consistently good games with Scizor, I think he's low A tier
Scizor is ok on a good match up the problem is the player behind it . alway inting try to 1v3 at lv5 and died
Now, do the same for scyther, maybe make a guide as well😅
I think they need to bring back old Swords Dance
Some urshifu gameplay cris
YES
I am waiting for mine's comeback
People always sleep on Scizor he’s so underrated
Whooo he listened!!! (I didn't say anything tho...)
No, people are wrong, scizor is not better than you said before. That clefable made it feel better but scizor is actually incredibly squishy despite what people want you to think. Spc attackers eat it alive and they run the game for the most part. BP takes way too long to actually be good and one stun during it can cause you to lose fights. Scyther is way better and scizor is also incredibly boring to play. I say this as someone whos only mon with a badge is scizor/scyther and hes my main.
People are wrong, scizor is still bad.
After this where will you rank Scizor?
GARCHOMP UR THROWING
You aren't playing optimal scizor. Try him central lane, get evolve off first clear, use overwhelming Advantage in power to bully a lane into irrelevance, then counter jungle. You are stronger way earlier. Razor claw, weakness policy, muscle band, or change out muscle for attack weight , you can get all stacks while bullying the laners. It pains me to see scizor played like this, 48% winrate. I have a 66% winrate with scizor, TsunWukong is the username.
Also. Double hit is worthless compared to the sheer healing and dps swords dance deals, while not sacrificing mobility
Razor claw prevents them from kiting you.
bro you are in veteran no shit you going to have a good win rate half of your games are still even bot games
Don't be acting like you ain't the broken one
I definitely think Scizor gets thrown too low in tier lists, I don't know why people think it's so bad to the point of being one of the worst in the game??
Scizor is definitely solid
I am sorry bro I was forcing espeed on u 😢 but I understand 😊 love your videos😊😊
Your tier list doesn't matter if you end up playing with noobs 🙄
indians do watch full videos……