Dr Imran shattered the other qadiani point in another video. Only in a matter of a few minutes. Defo worth a watch. Although I agree, Adnan Rashid would be a great watch with his wealth of knowledge. May Allah grant him more, and all of us more. Ameen.
@@HaseebK0 Dr Imran is really good, only reason why I mentioned Adnan Rashid was because he knows Urdu and their books quite well. It would have been interesting to see how they would have squirmed away from that. The Arab brothers are good but they don’t have much info about this Asian sect as much as the Asian Dawah guys, would have liked to hear Hashim with these guys as well. I’m sure he knows a bit about their books.
@@historian3290 Adnan Rashid is on record admitting that he has never read a book by Mirza Gulham Ahmed (as). He has read snippets. From Anti-Ahmadi sites...
@@nasar.b Your fake poonjabi imposter who was being a cucckhold and rejected by Muhammadi begam refutes himself. Your cult leader is with musaylama khazab in the depths of 🔥…
As a convert, I am amazed. I grew up a Christian and it was our routine to study the Bible. Through that study, I saw that the Bible is not truthful. The majority of people who accept Islam, follow the Sunnah, is that not a sign for these people? You think we did not do our homework? You think I searched 10 years of my life to take chances? You think I will risk Forever on that which is doubtful? How are you people lost?
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@torontoyesJesus is not yet dead, until people of the book believe on him. So people of the book include Jews and christian. But Jews is not believe on him yet ( believe Jesus is messiah). So on Islam believe, Jesus will come to clarify Muhammad saw, n condam lost christian then he will die. So Jews is not believe Jesus, so he has not yet die. You can watch other video on this channel about this. This was written on Al Quran
@@torontoyes ! Dear fellow yes 👍 Jésus Christ is dead and wont come Back again ! Quran came to confirm it and what Ahmadi Muslims say's is true ! What Ahmadis say's goes according to the Quran and Bible he didn't die on the cross and after it, continue his preaching extended to the lost sheep of lsrael ! What other say's is an Attack on Allah and his Wisdom ! May Allah guide you to the right Path ! Wassalamu Alaikum
@mohammedosei1687 lol. Can you provide the Surah where Allah says he died? Also, the prophet of Allah mentioned he did not die, so what are you on about? This is very basic. Are you saying, every convert that Allah guided and did their research Allah has misguided us all? My brother in humanity, it us not logical, that Alkah, would leave you and me to interpret the Quran and try to apply it without a living breathing example. That is why you see in the Bible, Jesus is referred to as Teacher. Jesus Aldo mentions extra biblical teachings, as do his disciples, as those sre hadith. They are not preserved hadith, that's why we have the Quran as the criterion over it and the sunnah of rasullulah. You seem more confused than the Christians.
rough and rude...following the example of the rasool pbuh? this is the issue with many scholars, they are like an easter egg, an outward appearance but empty inside.
I am so satisfied when Sheikh told that hoody cap guy to get lost. No mercy with those who didn't show their respect to others. Let that guy brings the emotional damage home. Do show his face if he really want to join discussion in speaker corner.
Sheikh has discussed this topic with that person for almost one hour he did not disclosed his identity at that also, But it's not eyes that are blind but hearts.
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
The reason why qadianis won’t go there is because it stops the claims of mirza qadiani being a prophet dead in its tracks. Theres no need to discuss whether Isa (AS) as passed away (which he didn’t as per the Quran and Hadith) because that doesn’t matter. When mirza qadiani is disproved as a prophet, his claims about Isa (AS) are also voided as a result.
Ignorant are you Hasseeb liké the sheikh. You can't even prove it from the Quran that lsa (as) Alive in heaven. is Againts the Quran and Hadith ! See how your Sheikh running from the topic 😅
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@ismaelmalik5418 still waiting for your reply mate. where the evidences for your claims that Ibn Taymiyya and the rest you've mentioned have said that Isa (AS) has died. Secondly, for the sake of argument, even if that is the case - that still doesn't prove Mirza Qadiani to be a prophet, a second coming of Isa(AS) or Mahdi (AS).
Allah States in the Quran: وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ ۚ أَفَإِنْ مَاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ انْقَلَبْتُمْ عَلَىٰ أَعْقَابِكُمْ ۚ وَمَنْ يَنْقَلِبْ عَلَىٰ عَقِبَيْهِ فَلَنْ يَضُرَّ اللَّهَ شَيْئًا ۗ وَسَيَجْزِي اللَّهُ الشَّاكِرِينَ And Muhammad is only a Messenger. Verily, all Messengers have passed away before him. If then he die or be slain, will you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels shall not harm Allah at all. And Allah will certainly reward the grateful. (Chapter 3 verse 144). Allah has made it extremely clear, that all Prophets before the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) have passed away. This verse is extremely powerful and proves the death of all Prophets before Hadhrat Muhammad Mustafasaw, including Hadhrat Isaas. Since the non Ahmadi Muslims cannot come up with a response to this verse, they begin a useless debate on the word “Khalat”. Firstly, Allah Himself explains two possible methods of passing, either by natural death or being killed. If there was a third possibility, it would have been mentioned. Allah Makes it clear that a human passes away either by dying naturally, or being killed as Allah States: أَفَإِنْ مَاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ If then he die or be slain Hadhrat Isaas was not killed according to the Qur’an, and therefore has to have died as that is the only second way of passing, and his death is supported in the Qur’an more than any Prophets death. Our claim is that when Khala is used in the past tense for human beings, it is always used for passing away, meaning death on the condition that there is no specific mention which indicates a ‘physical place’. A location should not be mentioned. For example in Surah al Baqarah when Allah States: وَإِذَا خَلَوْا إِلَىٰ شَيَاطِينِهِمْ Meaning, when they are along with or retreat to their ringleaders (Surah al Baqarah verse 14) Here Khala is followed by ‘ila’ and when ‘ila’ or another word is added to identify a specific meaning, then the word can refer to passing by of something in time or from one place to another. In the verse we are presenting we do not see any location mentioned nor any such preposition of ‘ila’ or ‘feeha’ which would perhaps change the meaning. In fact, Allah Himself goes on to explain that here it means death or being killed and that there is no third meaning. Since the non Ahmadi Muslims have no way to respond to Allah doing the tafsir of this ayah by saying “If then he die or be slain”, they try to quote verses of the Qur’an using khala, meaning other then death. However, we must remember that in all of those verses, a human being is not the subject.
What a great example, Mr. Sheikh pointed. The person who claimed to be a prophet he said his wife would pass away before him, but unfortunately, he passed away before her.😅😅😅😅😅😅
The same way your ulema poison the minds of lost Muslims with that have little to no knowledge about Islam or Ahmadiyyat with lies and yet teach them every disgusting false allegation 😂😂
The SOURCE Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, Mirza Ahmad Baig and his family refused to heed his empty threats. In retaliation, Mirza Qadiani wrote other threatening letters and ordered the creation of posters suggesting dire reprisals from Allah(SWT), in case Muhammadi Begum was not wedded to him. The following exemplify the false prophecy of this self-proclaimed prophet: “As a token of the Almighty’s favor to this humble person, Allah has ordained that, should Mirza Ahmad Baig refuse to wed his elder daughter to me, he will be considered Allah’s enemy and a disbeliever (Kafir). Additionally, as a punishment for his disbelief, Mirza Baig will die within three years of this refusal and any other man who marries Muhammadi Begum will die within two and half years of the date of his wedding. Muhammadi Begum is destined -- by the almighty Allah -- to ultimately become my wife.” (Tableeg-e-Resalat, Vol. 1 , P. 61 -- Collection of Posters-102, Vol. 1 -- Hashia; Feb. 20,1886)
One of the allegations of the anti Ahmadi Muslims which is often raised is in regards to the prophecy of Mirza Ahmad Baig. This prophecy was indeed fulfilled. However, it is important to read the entire background to completely understand this beautiful prophecy. Firstly, we must understand that it is the way of Allah the Almighty that whenever a people leave the path of righteousness and turn towards misguidance and disobedience, and become deserving of the punishment of Allah, after much respite, Allah Sends them a final warning which overtakes them. This final warning is given by Allah in the form of an order or commandment, which at times seems quite small. However, disobedience to it brings the punishment of Allah and there is no escape. Allah the Almighty States in the Holy Qur’an:ra وَإِذَا أَرَدْنَا أَنْ نُهْلِكَ قَرْيَةً أَمَرْنَا مُتْرَفِيهَا فَفَسَقُوا فِيهَا فَحَقَّ عَلَيْهَا الْقَوْلُ فَدَمَّرْنَاهَا تَدْمِيرًا {17} And when We intend to destroy a township, We address Our commandment to its rebellious people, but they transgress therein; so the sentence of punishment becomes due against it, and We destroy it with utter destruction. (Chapter 17 Verse 17) The people of Hadhrat Salih (as) were also given the same warning. Allah States in Surah al Shams of the Qur’an: فَقَالَ لَهُمْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ نَاقَةَ اللَّهِ وَسُقْيَاهَا {14} فَكَذَّبُوهُ فَعَقَرُوهَا فَدَمْدَمَ عَلَيْهِمْ رَبُّهُمْ بِذَنْبِهِمْ فَسَوَّاهَا {15} وَلَا يَخَافُ عُقْبَاهَا {16} Then the Messenger of Allah said, ‘Leave alone the she-camel of Allah, and let her drink.’ But they rejected him and hamstrung her, so their Lord destroyed them completely because of their sin, and made it (destruction) overtake all of them alike. And He cared not for the consequences thereof. (Chapter 91, Verses 14-16) We see that Allah the Almighty followed His way even with the near relatives of Hadhrat Ahmad(as). Ahmad Baig and his family denied the existence of Allah. They cursed at the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) and disrespected the Qur’an. They were lead astray by many Hindu traditions. They believed that it was unlawful to marry a relative as well, and that marrying a cousin is equivalent to marrying one’s sister God Forbid. It is for this reason that they would also mock the Holy Prophet (saw) for marrying Hadhrat Zainab(ra). Due to the disobedience and mockery of these people, Allah the Exalted gave the relatives of Hadhrat Ahmad(as) one final chance in the form of a commandment similar to Hadhrat Salih(as). Allah Stated that Ahmad Baig should marry his daughter Muhammadi Begum to Hadhrat Ahmad(as) and that this wedlock would bring about blessings. As we know, Allah States: يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَكُونُوا مَعَ الصَّادِقِينَ {119} O Ye who believe! Fear Allah and be with the righteous. (Chapter 9 Verse 119) The marriage of Hadhrat Ahmad(as) and Muhammadi Begum was unlawful according to Ahmad Baig and his family. Allah Used this commandment of His for their reformation. We find a similar example in the life of the Prophet Muhammad (saw) where he was instructed to marry the divorced widow of the Zaid(ra) who was the foster son of the Prophet(saw). Allah States: فَلَمَّا قَضَىٰ زَيْدٌ مِنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا لِكَيْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِي أَزْوَاجِ أَدْعِيَائِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا {38} Then, when Zaid had accomplished his want of her so as to have no further need of her, We joined her in marriage to thee, so that there may be no hindrance for the believers with regard to the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them. And Allah’s decree must be fulfilled. (Chapter 33 Verse 38) In the same way that Allah Instructed the Prophet Muhammad (sa) to marry Hadhrat Zainab(ra), in order to correct a false notion of the Arabs, Allah Ordered Hadhrat Ahmad(as) to send a proposal to Ahmad Baig for his daughter to remove their Hindu ideologies and so it may serve as a sign from Allah the Almighty. Another wisdom in this was that Allah wanted to reform them and it’s obvious that physical relation can lead to the reformation of the family of the wife. We see that Hadhrat Umme Habibah (ra) daughter of Abu Sufyan and Saudah bint Zam’a (ra) to the Holy Prophet(saw) lead to the families entering Islam. This was a final command to completely convey the message to Mirza Ahmad Baig and his family. Moving forward, we now see the way of the enemies of the Prophets. The prophecy Hadhrat Ahmad(as) made was a great one and it was fulfilled word for word. Hadhrat Ahmad(as) stated: “We have clearly proven the reason as to why the death of Sultan Muhammad has been delayed in a separate announcement in such a manner that no trustworthy individual can put forth an excuse in accepting it. Those who have no faith can say as they wish. It should be remembered that this prophecy has been fulfilled with all its glories and no intelligent individual can deny this” Those who Feared Allah and were righteous, accepted this sign of Hadhrat Ahmad(as) and many family members of his joined Ahmadiyyat. However, the scholars of this day and the anti Ahmadis act in the same way as the opponents of Hadhrat Muhammad (saw). The Qur’an States: فَلَمَّا قَضَىٰ زَيْدٌ مِنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا Then, when Zaid had accomplished his want of her so as to have no further need of her, we joined her in marriage to thee (in the heavens) (Chapter 33 Verse 38) Thus Allah The Almighty also used the words زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا when he addressed Hadhrat Ahmad(as) in regards to Muhammadi Begum.
The opponents love to take things out of context and rush to say that the prophecy was not fulfilled since the marriage did not take place. They forget to look at the prophecy itself nor do they investigate it. Firstly, we need to understand the purpose of this prophecy. Hadhrat Ahmad(as) states: “Verily, Allah found my cousins and other relatives (Ahmad Baig, etc) indulged in harmful thoughts and deeds, and found them immersed in shameful traditions, false ideologies and innovations in the faith. And found that they are the ones to follow their base desires and lusts. And they reject the being of Allah and are among those who cause disorder” (Aina Kamalat-e-Islam) He also states: “These people are staunch disbelievers of Allah and His Messenger and they do not believe in the decree of Allah, rather they are atheists”(Aina Kamalat-e-Islam, age 568) Hadhrat Ahmad(as) has given a beautiful incident in this same book which proves how atheistic they were. He states: “One night it so happened that I was sitting in my home, when a man came to me weeping. I became worried and inquired, “Have you been informed of the death of someone?” He responded, “No, even greater so!”. I was sitting with those people who have reverted from the religion of Allah. One of them cursed at the Prophet (saw) in such a filthy and offensive manner that I have never heard the like of it from the mouth of any disbeliever. Moreover, I saw that they placed the Holy Qur’an beneath their feet and stepped on it. They were uttering such vile words that the tongue becomes filthy even by writing them. And they were saying that the being of Allah is nothing and there is no God in this world. This is merely a lie which the fabricators have concocted. I said to him “Did I not tell you that you should not sit with such people?” So fear God, and do not sit with them again and repent” They mock Allah and His Messenger and say that God Forbid, the Qur’an was fabricated by the Prophet Muhammad (saw) and that he was an apostate” The family of Ahmad Baig had exceeded all bounds and did not believe in the Prophet Muhammad (saw) nor Allah. They were full of arrogance and addressed the Messiah saying: “Bring forth to us a sign, if you are among the truthful” Hadhrat Ahmad(as) wrote: “They wrote a letter in which they had cursed the Holy Prophet(saw) and the Holy Qur’an. They had rejected the being of Allah, Exalted by His Name, and demanded from me a sign of my truthfulness. They circulated this letter far and wide and the non Muslims of India (Christians) greatly helped them in this cause and they greatly exceeded the bounds” The letter sent to Hadhrat Ahmad(as) was published in Chashma-e-Nur August 1885. Upon this Hadhrat Ahmad(as) prayed for a powerful sign for his truth. Hadhrat Ahmad(as) referred to this in Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam in the following words: “And I said, O My Lord! Help your servant and disgrace your enemies” In response to this Allah the Almighty gave the Promised Messiah(as) the sign which they were waiting for. The following words were revealed: “Verily, I have seen their disobedience and rebellion. Hence, I shall soon annihilate them by various afflictions and I shall destroy them under the heavens. And you shall soon see how I deal with them. And We have power over all things. I shall make their women widows, and their children orphans and their homes abandoned so that they may taste the consequences of their words and actions. But I shall not destroy them in a single strike, rather, gradually, so that they may return and become of those who repent. And my curse shall descend upon them, and upon the walls of their house, and upon their young ones and their elders and their women and their men and their guests who enter through their doors and all of them shall be among the accursed” This prophecy itself shows that the revelation given to Hadhrat Ahmad(as) was that Allah the Exalted had given the option for repentance in the prophecy. For this reason Allah Stated: “I shall not destroy them in a single strike, rather gradually so that they may return and become of those who repent” Hadhrat Ahmad(as) elaborated that if Mirza Ahmad Baig married his daughter Muhammadi Begum to Hadhrat Ahmad(as), then as a result of this wedlock, Muhammadi Begum and her family would partake in blessings from the heavens as the family of Ummi Habibah and Hadhrat Saudah did. The families and tribes of both joined Islam. This wedlock was therefore a blessing. Hadhrat Ahmad(as) explained that if Mirza Ahmad Baig refused to marry his daughter to the Messiah(as), he would die within three years of marrying Muhammadi Begum to someone else, and the person to whom Muhammadi Begum would be wed, would also die 2 1/2 years following the marriage. Hence, after becoming a widow, Muhammadi Begum would then marry the Messiah. Hadhrat Ahmad(as) stated according to knowledge from Allah: “That ever powerful and wise God said to me that you should put forth a marriage proposal for the daughter of this individual (Mirza Ahmad Baig), and tell them that you shall receive kindness and good treatment as a result of the fulfillment of this condition. And this marriage shall be a source of blessings for you and a sign of mercy. And you shall partake in all the mercy and blessings specified in the announcement of 20th February 1886. However, if you refuse, the outcome of this lady will be very unpleasant, and her father will die within 3 years of the marriage” Along with this revelation, Hadhrat Ahmad(as) was also told that Ahmad Baig would indeed marry his daughter to someone else. He received the revelation: “They rejected our signs and they would mock at them. Allah would suffice thee against them and return her to you” Both of these revelations make it clear that the girl will definitely be married to someone else. They would reject the Will of Allah and marry the girl to someone else. The sect revelation explicitly states that she would marry someone else, as Allah uses the words “Yarudduha”. It also indicates that Ahmad Baig and others would be destroyed if they do not repent.
How was he a liar. His books and Arabic writing were far beyond any scholar and he even challenged them by saying if anyone can write better than me I will burn all of my books, and no one could come close. So you tell me then how was he a liar??
after the 1857 war of independence was defeated and the british came back to power , they hunted the rebels , who were mainly the muslim aristocracy all over northern india . for 3-4 months the colonial army companies went around the country side rounding up the remnants of the former insurgents now in hiding -- and hanging them in vilage squares and on trees around the villages . the muslim gentry was mainly of afghan , mughal , persian turkish , arab descent , and because of their lighter skin and relatively tall stature easily distinguished from the local population who were darker skinned and shorter in height . and so were easily traced and summararily hanged by these raiding british contingents . only those muslims were able to save their skins who sided with the british or became their accomplice . there were many muslim mendicants , pirs , and , faqirs who became agents of the colonial government and later recieved large estates as reward . mirza sahib whose ancestors probably came from samarkand bukhara and were known as mughal in india was just one more of such muslims , trying to save his skin and becoming an agent of british imperial grand strategy of divide and rule in the indian sub continent .
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
We Islam know everything about Muhammad saw bibliography, that why we follow him. But heblindky follow, without knowing who he prophet is. How ignorance.
@KhanKhan-nd1dk Because he ﷺ received revelation and is mentioned in the Quran many times which Allah Swt says to follow his sunnah. Mirza Ghulam isn’t mentioned once in nor the Quran and Hadith and it mentions that Muhammad ﷺ is the last messenger within the Quran 😭it mentions that isa AS will come back on this earth but they (qadyani’s) deny. Mirza ghulam has a humiliating death and lied many times to try and prove he is a messenger or a prophet which isn’t true because he is a dajaal. If your not a Muslim don’t talk, if you call yourself a Muslim then you are not for questioning the Prophethood of Muhammad ﷺ. Go do some research with an open heart and you will see that the ahmadiyyah are blind and kafirs.
@@IEH_ Not everyone knows EVERY prophecy of EVERY prophet in full DEPTH. You cannot claim that he knew the prophecy well but refused to answer based on nothing! Since when was mind reading a thing, lol? No Muslim can show proof that Jesus (AS) is alive, yet they all believe it. How can a billion people believe non Ahmad Islam but no one knows this major topic?
Man was absolutely terrified to answer the question. He’s basically now claiming that he’s not sure if those things happened. His excuse was not reading a book and showing a source. Did the things happen or not?
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@ismaelmalik5418 like the sheikh said you need to worry if your prophet is a real prophet before you worry about these topics because it will be a big problem for you Inshallah
Subhanallah, may Allah reward the brother for his efforts. May Allah rectify those who are astray, and may Allah guide us to the straight path, and keep us sincere.
Why? this debate was horrible. This guy didn't even want to have this discussion, but sunni guy directed, and drove the topic of discussion to his own choosing. Jus because he's muslim you say "reward the brother" he can't even speak English well, and he's not educated I can tell, and he doesn't shine with wisdom. He only has hatred in his heart. Stop being biased.
@@agostocobain2729 I agree that the substance of the "debate" never materialised. In fact, I don't even think it was a debate. It was a bunch of strange evasive people who hung around for more than hour but yet never really engaged in the conversation. The man on the right maintained his composure despite this. And for that, his effort is good.
@@agostocobain2729just because you can't speak good English, doesn't mean you aren't educated. But just because you think it is, is why you are uneducated.
@@youssef.sarhan Bcz these bunch of goons cdnt bear hearing truth...they deliberatly disrupted the dialogue...while sheikh tried to speak..but when yhe guy spoke..sheikh listened.This alone shows these qadyani goons dont wana believe or hear truth..why? Bcz of facilities provided to them by brits n israiiiil.
Sheikh please keep on talking about Mohammadi Begum. People want to know every detail of this issue. Lovely kadianis really want to know about Mohammadi Begum
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
I don’t know much about the Ahmadiya sect but for some odd reason nearly every ex-Muslim I heard about were once upon a time a follower of this sect, the question is why? You will rarely find a ex-Muslim from Sunni or Shiah and if they do they remain silent about why they left Islam while the Ahmadiya not only go around boasting but they are given book deals or a platform by major Christian organisations RZIM and liberty university to name two again why? This question the Ahmadiya sect must answer
That lsa (as) is dead ! As you have kept him Alive for 223years and you can't even prove it from the Quran. Does it make Sense ! See how your Sheikh running from the topic 😅 ! Storytellers and full of doctrine
@@mcegypt20 ! Here Out What Ahmadis say's make Sense and goes according to the Quran and Bible ! Study both with Pure Heart you will understand it ! Was him they crucify and didn't die ! Allah conclueded that story in the Quran but most Muslims misunderstood ! May Allah guide you to the right Path. Wassalamu Alaikum
@@dm_1236Where was he recorded ill or deluded? It’s honestly so strange how you lot lie so much on the Messiah AS and yet still call ahmadi liars. He wasn’t ill nor deluded he was one of the most respected debaters and preachers in his land and wrote an abundance of beautiful books. Your lost. Maybe your parents teach you to lie about things you don’t know 🤷🏾♂️
@@gamekid2420No he was not. He was false prophet during the time of The prophet Muhammad SAW and he not a Promissed messiah in the lattar day like Ghulam Ahmad (AS), rather from the same period as our Prophet PBUH.
Everytime you have a conversation with a qadiyani you should also ask/inquire if they converted or they were born in a qadiyani family. I think these people are born into this and have been fed this false information and now they are programed to think they are correct. They are following a book called "qandeel-e-sadaqat" all the debating points they have are from this book. I would recommend the brothers who want to debate or converse with the qadiyanis to download this book and go over it so you can understand their point of view. I read the table of content of this book, it is so misleading and it is made to create confusion for people with weak iman or for people who are trying to find a path. And I think these people think they are bringing exposure to their cause by debating and getting screen time with popular RUclipsrs. I request all the Muslim brothers who talk with these people, please don't let them talk too long about their point of view because they can make short videos of explaining them selves and there are a lot of Muslims in Southeast Asia who share this type of short videos, shaitan needs only a small opening to start misleading. May Allah guide us and protect us and our coming generations. Ameen. I will copy and post this comment on every video I come across with qadiyanis in it to bring awareness. If you can please share it so people will understand. JazakAllah.
Simple conclusion, when a person said things which werent truthfull , whatever he said afterwards doesn't worth a penny .. that's what happens with miza gollum qadiyani . He prophecied things which proved to be false .. end of story .. whatever he said who cares..
What are you doing believing in something you know nothing about about? Sounds like a cop out to me he simply couldn't handle his beliefs being dissected.
That's their standard tactic. When they realize they will be pinned down, they say I'm not an expert on this part of my faith. Even seniors like him do that. May Allah guide them and keep our faith firm
Are ALL Muslims experts in EVERY aspect of Islam? We both know that they are not, so your point has no basis. If I asked you to prove Isa(as) is alive using the Quran, can you do such a thing? Can you show me a single proof that says Isa(as) is currently alive and in Heaven? You cannot, so you live by this double standard that you oppress unto Ahmadi Muslims. Please respond with your proof, Jazakallah
@@faisalbhutter845 I didn't say he had to be an expert. You should have an understanding based on reasoning and logic to believe in something. Otherwise it is blind faith. I have an understanding of Islam so reverted. Not like this guy who must've been born into this 'sect' and clearly has no idea about it.
why is it not common knowledge that there no other nabi (prophet) or rasul (messenger) will be sent after the passing of Nabi Muhammad S.A.W. ? our prophet is the last prophet and messenger sent by our Creator so it should squashed any other mortal claim of prophethood. Aa'uzzubillah, i seek the protection from Allah, The Almighty from the distraction, whisper and tricks from syaitan and its ilk as well request to Him to kept my Iman, my Faith steadfast.
Ahmadiyya is a religion lacking a solid foundation. One notable aspect of Ahmadis is their reluctance to entertain questions or criticism regarding Mirza Ghulam. When inquiries about him are raised, they tend to respond with counter-questions as a means of evading the situation. This practice might be seen as a strategic maneuver or a vulnerability in their belief system.
What Ahmadi individual have you met that hasn’t answered questions or given evidence to their points. The foundation is as solid as it gets. Isa AS is dead and the Promissed Messiah is here. You guys still believe he is physically alive in the heavens and even though the Quran literally says that all prophets before Prophet Muhammad SAW have died (including Isa). Your ulema is crumbling. In fact answer the question. Where in the Quran does it say that Isa (AS)s both soul AND body was lifted into the heavens?
@@Muslim1000 yeah, rite. I can bet you that you'll avoid answering the questions about the personal life of that Scumbag Mirza Ghulam and instead of answering, you'll try to twist it by asking stupid questions. Don't tell me those stupid excuses. I stand firm on my opinion that your religion stands on fake ideology and it make no sense at all.
@@Muslim1000 وَقَوۡلِهِمۡ إِنَّا قَتَلۡنَا ٱلۡمَسِیحَ عِیسَى ٱبۡنَ مَرۡیَمَ رَسُولَ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَـٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمۡۚ وَإِنَّ ٱلَّذِینَ ٱخۡتَلَفُوا۟ فِیهِ لَفِی شَكࣲّ مِّنۡهُۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنۡ عِلۡمٍ إِلَّا ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ یَقِینَۢا﴿ ١٥٧ ﴾ • Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. An-Nisa', Ayah 157 بَل رَّفَعَهُ ٱللَّهُ إِلَیۡهِۚ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَزِیزًا حَكِیمࣰا﴿ ١٥٨ ﴾ • Sahih International: Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. An-Nisa', Ayah 158
@@Bing.chilling.1 Allah states: And their saying, ‘We did kill the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah;’ whereas they kill him not, nor crucified him, but he was made to appear to them like one crucified; and those who differ therein are certainly in a state of doubt about it; they have no definite knowledge thereof, but only follow a conjecture; and they did not convert this conjecture into a certainty; On the contrary, Allah exalted him to Himself. And Allah is Mighty, Wise.(Chapter 4 Verses 157-158) Firstly, it is clear that in no way does the fact that Isa (AS) was not killed or crucified, suggest that he (AS) is alive in the heavens. This same ayah can apply to even the Holy Prophet (SAW) who was neither killed nor crucified and was also raised. This applies to many prophets and many righteous people who have passed. They were neither killed nor crucified and were indeed raised by Allah, who is Al-Rafi, the One Who Exalts. However, this does not mean that any Prophet is alive in the heavens physically. Furthermore, this verse does not have the word alive, bodily, or the skies or the term heaven. Some have tried to use the words “wa lakin shubbiha lahum” to mean that another person’s face was switched with the face of Isaas who was killed, while Isaas was raised to the heavens. This once again has no basis in the Qur’an nor do any Arabic dictionaries ever support such a meaning attributed to the words. The Jews wanted to crucify Isa (AS) meaning put him to death on the cross, to prove to the public that Isa (AS)was, God Forbid, a false prophet as Deuteronomy Chapter 21 Verses 21-23 states in regards to the ones who die on the cross. This was the plan of the Jews to show that Isa (AS) was, God forbid, a false prophet. Such an interpretation that another person’s face’s likeness was put onto Isa (AS) and that person was killed instead of Isa (AS), is totally unacceptable for many reasons. Firstly, the Jews wanted to show the people that Isa (AS) would die on the cross to prove him false, so if another man died in his place, with his face, the people would have still seen Isa (AS), and to them he would remain a false prophet, God Forbid. Some believe that it’s because Isa (AS) was going to be put on the cross, Allah decided that his prophet should not be persecuted, and therefore was raised to the heavens. This again is against the teachings of the Qur’an and contradicts the reaction the other prophets received from their people. The Holy Prophet (SAW) faced a lot of persecution in Ta’if and his feet would be drenched in blood. His (SAW)‘s reply was always to pray to Allah for protection as did Isa (AS), which is the reason Allah did not let him die on the cross. If we were to assume that Allah did indeed put the looks of Isa (AS) onto someone else, Allah would be accused for many things against his way. Firstly one would say that Allah secretly raised a prophet of Allah from the earth to the heavens, contradicting the Qur’an and removing his prophet from his mission, in fear of the Jews who defeated him.
@@Bing.chilling.1How can a sincere Muslim after all of the proof in regards to the death of Isa (AS) present in the Qur’an and the Ahadith, believe that Allah was afraid of the Jews and they had defeated him? The Qur’an has made it clear that the Prophets always fulfill their missions in their lifetime on earth and are persecuted, but protected by Allah. Secondly, why would an innocent person have to die for no reason? Thirdly Allah has made it clear in the Qur’an that we should not alter ourselves yet the non Ahmadi Muslims have put such an allegation on Allah, that He himself altered his creation, God Forbid!
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
If it isn’t “ your area “ why are you even bothering to debate with Sh. Muhammad ? By the way, whoever doesn’t believe that Prophet Muhammad Peace And Blessings Upon Him isn’t the last and final messenger of Allah, that there will be another prophet after him S.A.W, is not Muslim. Period. Qadiyani aren’t Muslim. Please don’t be fooled by their trickery. This man Mirza Qaiyani claimed to be prophet Nauzibillah in Qadiyan ( dirty in India ) during the British Raaj. He had full support of the rulers at that time ( British ) and they still support this cult. 99% of this cult lives in the west. They wouldn’t dare live in any Muslim country, because they’ve been exposed as fornicators.
I know bro, all keyboard warriors down here, will say all these disgusting allegations against the Promised Messiah (AS) but can’t answer the simple questions about the death of Isa (AS).
Quadiani is more worried about whether crowd is big or not. Not about the the discussion. Thats what they want.... exposure is all they care about. Do not give them that.
It’s called selective amnesia all Qadiani’s suffer from it as soon as Mirza is brought into the question. Mirza ghulam said his prophecies were what he wanted to be judged From !
After the death of ceasar a long series of civil wars that ended in the death of the Roman Republic and the birth of the Roman Empire. These People need to learn and to come back to islam and they need to learn history.
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
The root/importance is the prophecy, becuase if you proof the ahmadiya Prophet is false, then why would you take the false teachings/understanding of the Qur'an. What is the point of discussing interpretation of Qur'an, it's the source of the understanding is corrupt. The example ahamadi said, why we would take teaching from Christian about Islam shows the importance of the source.
There's Muslims that believe there was a prophet after the 'LAST' Messenger? Didn't Prophet SAW prophecise there'd be False messengers after him? This is Insanity.
What’s insanity is that you believe that Isa (AS) is still alive after 2000 years in the heavens and that he’s going to come down with flying horses and kill a monster and kill pigs and kaffir (which is haram) and come down wearing gold (which is also haram). Ah yes but we are the ones who are insane 😂👍🏾. Genuinely May Allah guide you.
Maybe because YOUR belief is that he’s coming back. That’s why it’s relevant you imbecile. You can’t just believe that he’s alive in the heavens and then show no evidence that he’s in the heavens with his body.
Charlatan !! He cones to debate the authenticity of his prophet and then says he is not familier with a grave subject where a prophecy did not come true 😮
39:25 This man is giving the incomplete Hadeeth. The full Hadeeth states that a companion was asked if he saw Ibrahim Ibn Muhammad with his own eyes. The companion replied that yes he saw him, had he grown up to be an adult he would have been a prophet as well but Muhammad (ﷺ) is the final Prophet and Allah has written in the Quran that He (ﷺ)is the final prophet therefore he would not be a father of any male children. Ahmedis quote incomplete Hadeeth and use that as their leaf to stand on. In addition to this, Quran 33:40 states: Muḥammad is not the father of any of your men, but is the Messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets. And Allah has ˹perfect˺ knowledge of all things."
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
02:30 “You need to talk about something we know about…” Is that how you learn? Imagine if college was like this 😂 But seriously, this is very cultish to refuse to get informed. I wouldn’t even waste my time with them, they’re no different than other cults.
the same guy said in another video that their qadiyani leaders will BAN them from the park if they keep discussing ahmadiya loooooooooool. it's literally a cult
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
What I would have asked him what is the difference between mirza ghulam Ahmed’s claim to prophecy and all the other false messiahs like the founder of the Nation of Islam.
Wow! Not a Muslim myself but man these Ahmadis and Shias having taking heavy losses lately! That Ahmadi cannot be taken seriously. How can he trust in a so-called prophet and not have studied and be ready to explain the seeming false prophecies of his prophet, that are publicly known? He is following foolishly if he has not investigated these matters for himself.
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@ismaelmalik5418 According to Ibn Taymiyyaa and Abdul Wahhaab the last and final prophet is Muhammad peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him.Anyone who believes of a prophet like of the KAZZAAB MGA is out of the fold of Islaam.What's your point?Talk about the character and the lies of the DAJJAAL MGA. His writings are full of contradiction and his prophecies are a MESS.Sorry dude.
@@mariyanbusanti6295 if you don’t know some thing. You should stay quiet. References are posted on ahmadi answers. Accept the promissed messiah (as) which you are also waiting for . Don’t act ignorant . At least learn about your own aqeeda.
Sad state of affairs for Muslims. If we all just stick to the Quran and left what men said, we would be united. The unbelievers could not corrupt the Quran so they found other ways.
These qadiyanis crack me up. They want to shut people up from telling the truth about Mirza Ghulam kazzaab by going on and on about being respectful. Yet they follow someone who spent his whole time cursing and swearing at others!
In sha Allah on the day of quiyama. May this “sheik” see the truth and the overflow of regret fills him. Calling the Messiah (AS) a scumbag. What type of preacher is this. May Allah guide people like this 😬
@@lionelsnitchie4539Because there is authentic Hadith and Quranic verses that show he is and fulfils the Prophecies visioned by Prophet Muhammad SAW about the lattar day Messiah.
@@scaryjoker The man was still honest and said that he'd prefer to approach from another angle. You cannot expect everyone to know absolutely every angle of every topic. Come on now akhi.
Why do you have to know the detail. If he was a prophet and he prophesied something that failed to materialise then it questions his prophecy - the Ahmadi is playing games
It's funny how none of them Qadyani's know about his failed prophecies or wish to find out what the facts are but they would rather go on believing in a man who is a charlatan.
Qadyani have no knowledge,,,, hazrat muhammad peace be upon him is last prophet ofAllah,,, when he donot know any thing about his religion,,, why he is talking with different muslim scholers,, shaikhs in this park
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
Ahmaadiya's message to us is:" love for all and hatred for none". That message has a high religious quality. What are sunni and shia' s message to the world? Maybe:" let us do jihad"😢😢😢
Sometimes I wish prophethood would have totally ended at prophet Muhammad saw like no previous prophets were coming either! In other words, i wish prophetic era would have totally ended at prophet Muhammad saw and we would be living in post prophetic era!
Jesus Christ is coming back and then prophetic era will end FYI. Then no prophet will come whether new or previous! That’s the Sunni belief which is mine!
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@nizamknight Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
What kind of blatant cop out. These snakes have no shame,look at the level of deception, soon as he realizes that he will get exposed he comes out with oh i don't know enough about it.
Honestly this Sheikh guy is arrogant and goes against islamic teachings…Even Adnan Rashid who is not Ahmadi makes more sense and does not insult his opponent like this so called Muslim
With Ahamadiyya community, except Isa (A.S) we should discuss everything, because they want others to indulge on other irrelevant topics except their self proclaimed prophet "MGA"
Sunni Muslims: Jesus is not dead! It is Muhammad pbuh who is dead and buried, Allah saved his truly beloved Prophet (Isa) to come and save the Ummah. He will save Islam and be the last prophet to walk this planet Oh btw, just because Isa is the last prophet to walk this earth, doesn’t mean he’s last. Also the verse in Quran which declares Isa to be prophet to Israelites (rasoolan ala Bani Israel) will become invalid because Isa will now be a rasool to the Muslims (oh no, just realised that’s a Nabi after prophet Muhammad- how can I fix this, oh yes! He won’t be a prophet anymore because Allah will realise He made a rule that now is causing Him problems. Luckily, the Sunni “scholars” are here to help Allah in the rules that He now needs to break- phew)
Being a native Urdu speaker, I testify that Urdu is heavily influenced with Arabic and then Persian and other local languages more than 80% of words in Urdu are from Arabic. Khaatim literally and exactly means the same as in Arabic.
@@user-tq5zm7ei7x I don’t need any research on Ghulam Ahmed to declare him false prophet and لعنہ اللہ and I am responding this only for Muslim readers not for qadiyanis . Reply: خاتم in Arabic is فاعل of ختم same as Urdu and it means “end/seal/finish”, but with the logic above it means when Allah in the Quran (سورۃ البقرہ) says ختم اللہ علی قلوبہم وعلی سمعھم وابصارہم غشاوہ ، ولھم عذاب عظیم it means Allah did best them on their hearts , on their hearings and on their visions is a veil and for them is a great punishment. Baki I don’t need taking lessons on Urdu or Arabic from a non native /Punjabi speaker.
The qadiani knows that there's no way he can argue against the Muhammadi begum situation, hence why he kept saying there's no point
he is not a Muslim. You should not refer to him as one.
@@knightkiller329362 you're right, I've edited it now
Accept me as the Messiah pls 😭😭😭
Who’s Mohamed begum.?
Mohmadi begum topic hits them hard 😂😂😂
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Well there are plenty such topics where ypu can catch their lies.
People are saying shiek is rude. He wasn't rude he stood his ground on a ignorant quadini
When he say "get lost", that us rude. By the way I am sunni muslim and I know kadyaniya/Ahmad are a false religion.
@@shukrimoe2814 he said he don't care it's when he said.
@@shukrimoe2814 that's standing his ground
We are Ahmadies, more then hundred years have passed and you can’t even get that right due to your ignorance 😜
I will curse whoever doesn't believe in me! 😭
Where is Adnan Rashid when you need him. Guy would have demolished these guys and their fake Ghulam Mirza from their sources.
Ustad Adnan is in Peru doing dawah Alhamdolillah ❤
Dr Imran shattered the other qadiani point in another video. Only in a matter of a few minutes. Defo worth a watch. Although I agree, Adnan Rashid would be a great watch with his wealth of knowledge. May Allah grant him more, and all of us more. Ameen.
@@HaseebK0 Dr Imran is really good, only reason why I mentioned Adnan Rashid was because he knows Urdu and their books quite well. It would have been interesting to see how they would have squirmed away from that. The Arab brothers are good but they don’t have much info about this Asian sect as much as the Asian Dawah guys, would have liked to hear Hashim with these guys as well. I’m sure he knows a bit about their books.
@@historian3290 Adnan Rashid is on record admitting that he has never read a book by Mirza Gulham Ahmed (as). He has read snippets. From Anti-Ahmadi sites...
@@nasar.b Your fake poonjabi imposter who was being a cucckhold and rejected by Muhammadi begam refutes himself. Your cult leader is with musaylama khazab in the depths of 🔥…
This what literally called (Blind Following ) .
I'm blind too so it only makes sense for my followers to be blind as well
Good coz Ahmadi was kafir.
As a convert, I am amazed. I grew up a Christian and it was our routine to study the Bible. Through that study, I saw that the Bible is not truthful. The majority of people who accept Islam, follow the Sunnah, is that not a sign for these people? You think we did not do our homework? You think I searched 10 years of my life to take chances? You think I will risk Forever on that which is doubtful? How are you people lost?
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@ismaelmalik5418 Did you say Jesus is dead?
@@torontoyesJesus is not yet dead, until people of the book believe on him. So people of the book include Jews and christian. But Jews is not believe on him yet ( believe Jesus is messiah). So on Islam believe, Jesus will come to clarify Muhammad saw, n condam lost christian then he will die. So Jews is not believe Jesus, so he has not yet die. You can watch other video on this channel about this. This was written on Al Quran
@@torontoyes ! Dear fellow yes 👍 Jésus Christ is dead and wont come Back again ! Quran came to confirm it and what Ahmadi Muslims say's is true ! What Ahmadis say's goes according to the Quran and Bible he didn't die on the cross and after it, continue his preaching extended to the lost sheep of lsrael ! What other say's is an Attack on Allah and his Wisdom !
May Allah guide you to the right Path !
Wassalamu Alaikum
@mohammedosei1687 lol. Can you provide the Surah where Allah says he died?
Also, the prophet of Allah mentioned he did not die, so what are you on about?
This is very basic. Are you saying, every convert that Allah guided and did their research Allah has misguided us all?
My brother in humanity, it us not logical, that Alkah, would leave you and me to interpret the Quran and try to apply it without a living breathing example.
That is why you see in the Bible, Jesus is referred to as Teacher. Jesus Aldo mentions extra biblical teachings, as do his disciples, as those sre hadith. They are not preserved hadith, that's why we have the Quran as the criterion over it and the sunnah of rasullulah.
You seem more confused than the Christians.
Uncles rough and tough. Love the way he goes on attack mode. Need to meet him
rough and rude...following the example of the rasool pbuh? this is the issue with many scholars, they are like an easter egg, an outward appearance but empty inside.
I am so satisfied when Sheikh told that hoody cap guy to get lost. No mercy with those who didn't show their respect to others. Let that guy brings the emotional damage home. Do show his face if he really want to join discussion in speaker corner.
Sheikh has discussed this topic with that person for almost one hour he did not disclosed his identity at that also, But it's not eyes that are blind but hearts.
Muslim man nailed the Qadiani man....
How? He never read anything, he believe in sayings. Such a shame. Shaikh sb is spreading lies, he heard from others.
Man doesn't know a thing about his prophet 😂
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
The guy is just dodging question because they knows it was a false prophecy. So this will prove his claim was false
The reason why qadianis won’t go there is because it stops the claims of mirza qadiani being a prophet dead in its tracks. Theres no need to discuss whether Isa (AS) as passed away (which he didn’t as per the Quran and Hadith) because that doesn’t matter. When mirza qadiani is disproved as a prophet, his claims about Isa (AS) are also voided as a result.
Ignorant are you Hasseeb liké the sheikh. You can't even prove it from the Quran that lsa (as) Alive in heaven. is Againts the Quran and Hadith ! See how your Sheikh running from the topic 😅
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@ismaelmalik5418do you have any authentic sources to back your claims
@@ismaelmalik5418 still waiting for your reply mate. where the evidences for your claims that Ibn Taymiyya and the rest you've mentioned have said that Isa (AS) has died.
Secondly, for the sake of argument, even if that is the case - that still doesn't prove Mirza Qadiani to be a prophet, a second coming of Isa(AS) or Mahdi (AS).
Allah States in the Quran:
وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ ۚ أَفَإِنْ مَاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ انْقَلَبْتُمْ عَلَىٰ أَعْقَابِكُمْ ۚ وَمَنْ يَنْقَلِبْ عَلَىٰ عَقِبَيْهِ فَلَنْ يَضُرَّ اللَّهَ شَيْئًا ۗ وَسَيَجْزِي اللَّهُ الشَّاكِرِينَ
And Muhammad is only a Messenger. Verily, all Messengers have passed away before him. If then he die or be slain, will you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels shall not harm Allah at all. And Allah will certainly reward the grateful. (Chapter 3 verse 144).
Allah has made it extremely clear, that all Prophets before the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) have passed away.
This verse is extremely powerful and proves the death of all Prophets before Hadhrat Muhammad Mustafasaw, including Hadhrat Isaas. Since the non Ahmadi Muslims cannot come up with a response to this verse, they begin a useless debate on the word “Khalat”. Firstly, Allah Himself explains two possible methods of passing, either by natural death or being killed. If there was a third possibility, it would have been mentioned. Allah Makes it clear that a human passes away either by dying naturally, or being killed as Allah States:
أَفَإِنْ مَاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ
If then he die or be slain
Hadhrat Isaas was not killed according to the Qur’an, and therefore has to have died as that is the only second way of passing, and his death is supported in the Qur’an more than any Prophets death.
Our claim is that when Khala is used in the past tense for human beings, it is always used for passing away, meaning death on the condition that there is no specific mention which indicates a ‘physical place’. A location should not be mentioned. For example in Surah al Baqarah when Allah States:
وَإِذَا خَلَوْا إِلَىٰ شَيَاطِينِهِمْ
Meaning, when they are along with or retreat to their ringleaders (Surah al Baqarah verse 14)
Here Khala is followed by ‘ila’ and when ‘ila’ or another word is added to identify a specific meaning, then the word can refer to passing by of something in time or from one place to another. In the verse we are presenting we do not see any location mentioned nor any such preposition of ‘ila’ or ‘feeha’ which would perhaps change the meaning. In fact, Allah Himself goes on to explain that here it means death or being killed and that there is no third meaning.
Since the non Ahmadi Muslims have no way to respond to Allah doing the tafsir of this ayah by saying “If then he die or be slain”, they try to quote verses of the Qur’an using khala, meaning other then death. However, we must remember that in all of those verses, a human being is not the subject.
What a great example, Mr. Sheikh pointed. The person who claimed to be a prophet he said his wife would pass away before him, but unfortunately, he passed away before her.😅😅😅😅😅😅
This is not my area of expertise, yet harasses Muslims that lack knowledge 😂😂😂😂
The same way your ulema poison the minds of lost Muslims with that have little to no knowledge about Islam or Ahmadiyyat with lies and yet teach them every disgusting false allegation 😂😂
Why you came here when you donot know about your religion
The SOURCE
Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, Mirza Ahmad Baig and his family refused to heed his empty threats. In retaliation, Mirza Qadiani wrote other threatening letters and ordered the creation of posters suggesting dire reprisals from Allah(SWT), in case Muhammadi Begum was not wedded to him. The following exemplify the false prophecy of this self-proclaimed prophet:
“As a token of the Almighty’s favor to this humble person, Allah has ordained that, should Mirza Ahmad Baig refuse to wed his elder daughter to me, he will be considered Allah’s enemy and a disbeliever (Kafir). Additionally, as a punishment for his disbelief, Mirza Baig will die within three years of this refusal and any other man who marries Muhammadi Begum will die within two and half years of the date of his wedding. Muhammadi Begum is destined -- by the almighty Allah -- to ultimately become my wife.”
(Tableeg-e-Resalat, Vol. 1 , P. 61 --
Collection of Posters-102, Vol. 1 -- Hashia; Feb. 20,1886)
That’s not prophetic. He was just a creep
@@dm_1236 again it's haram to mock others.
Lol, he made takfir on someone just because they didn't want to entertain his sexual desires
One of the allegations of the anti Ahmadi Muslims which is often raised is in regards to the prophecy of Mirza Ahmad Baig. This prophecy was indeed fulfilled. However, it is important to read the entire background to completely understand this beautiful prophecy.
Firstly, we must understand that it is the way of Allah the Almighty that whenever a people leave the path of righteousness and turn towards misguidance and disobedience, and become deserving of the punishment of Allah, after much respite, Allah Sends them a final warning which overtakes them. This final warning is given by Allah in the form of an order or commandment, which at times seems quite small. However, disobedience to it brings the punishment of Allah and there is no escape.
Allah the Almighty States in the Holy Qur’an:ra
وَإِذَا أَرَدْنَا أَنْ نُهْلِكَ قَرْيَةً أَمَرْنَا مُتْرَفِيهَا فَفَسَقُوا فِيهَا فَحَقَّ عَلَيْهَا الْقَوْلُ فَدَمَّرْنَاهَا تَدْمِيرًا {17}
And when We intend to destroy a township, We address Our commandment to its rebellious people, but they transgress therein; so the sentence of punishment becomes due against it, and We destroy it with utter destruction. (Chapter 17 Verse 17)
The people of Hadhrat Salih (as) were also given the same warning. Allah States in Surah al Shams of the Qur’an:
فَقَالَ لَهُمْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ نَاقَةَ اللَّهِ وَسُقْيَاهَا {14} فَكَذَّبُوهُ فَعَقَرُوهَا فَدَمْدَمَ عَلَيْهِمْ رَبُّهُمْ بِذَنْبِهِمْ فَسَوَّاهَا {15} وَلَا يَخَافُ عُقْبَاهَا {16}
Then the Messenger of Allah said, ‘Leave alone the she-camel of Allah, and let her drink.’ But they rejected him and hamstrung her, so their Lord destroyed them completely because of their sin, and made it (destruction) overtake all of them alike. And He cared not for the consequences thereof. (Chapter 91, Verses 14-16)
We see that Allah the Almighty followed His way even with the near relatives of Hadhrat Ahmad(as). Ahmad Baig and his family denied the existence of Allah. They cursed at the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) and disrespected the Qur’an. They were lead astray by many Hindu traditions. They believed that it was unlawful to marry a relative as well, and that marrying a cousin is equivalent to marrying one’s sister God Forbid. It is for this reason that they would also mock the Holy Prophet (saw) for marrying Hadhrat Zainab(ra). Due to the disobedience and mockery of these people, Allah the Exalted gave the relatives of Hadhrat Ahmad(as) one final chance in the form of a commandment similar to Hadhrat Salih(as). Allah Stated that Ahmad Baig should marry his daughter Muhammadi Begum to Hadhrat Ahmad(as) and that this wedlock would bring about blessings. As we know, Allah States:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَكُونُوا مَعَ الصَّادِقِينَ {119}
O Ye who believe! Fear Allah and be with the righteous. (Chapter 9 Verse 119)
The marriage of Hadhrat Ahmad(as) and Muhammadi Begum was unlawful according to Ahmad Baig and his family. Allah Used this commandment of His for their reformation. We find a similar example in the life of the Prophet Muhammad (saw) where he was instructed to marry the divorced widow of the Zaid(ra) who was the foster son of the Prophet(saw). Allah States:
فَلَمَّا قَضَىٰ زَيْدٌ مِنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا لِكَيْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِي أَزْوَاجِ أَدْعِيَائِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا {38}
Then, when Zaid had accomplished his want of her so as to have no further need of her, We joined her in marriage to thee, so that there may be no hindrance for the believers with regard to the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them. And Allah’s decree must be fulfilled. (Chapter 33 Verse 38)
In the same way that Allah Instructed the Prophet Muhammad (sa) to marry Hadhrat Zainab(ra), in order to correct a false notion of the Arabs, Allah Ordered Hadhrat Ahmad(as) to send a proposal to Ahmad Baig for his daughter to remove their Hindu ideologies and so it may serve as a sign from Allah the Almighty.
Another wisdom in this was that Allah wanted to reform them and it’s obvious that physical relation can lead to the reformation of the family of the wife. We see that Hadhrat Umme Habibah (ra) daughter of Abu Sufyan and Saudah bint Zam’a (ra) to the Holy Prophet(saw) lead to the families entering Islam. This was a final command to completely convey the message to Mirza Ahmad Baig and his family.
Moving forward, we now see the way of the enemies of the Prophets. The prophecy Hadhrat Ahmad(as) made was a great one and it was fulfilled word for word. Hadhrat Ahmad(as) stated:
“We have clearly proven the reason as to why the death of Sultan Muhammad has been delayed in a separate announcement in such a manner that no trustworthy individual can put forth an excuse in accepting it. Those who have no faith can say as they wish. It should be remembered that this prophecy has been fulfilled with all its glories and no intelligent individual can deny this”
Those who Feared Allah and were righteous, accepted this sign of Hadhrat Ahmad(as) and many family members of his joined Ahmadiyyat. However, the scholars of this day and the anti Ahmadis act in the same way as the opponents of Hadhrat Muhammad (saw). The Qur’an States:
فَلَمَّا قَضَىٰ زَيْدٌ مِنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا
Then, when Zaid had accomplished his want of her so as to have no further need of her, we joined her in marriage to thee (in the heavens) (Chapter 33 Verse 38)
Thus Allah The Almighty also used the words زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا when he addressed Hadhrat Ahmad(as) in regards to Muhammadi Begum.
The opponents love to take things out of context and rush to say that the prophecy was not fulfilled since the marriage did not take place. They forget to look at the prophecy itself nor do they investigate it. Firstly, we need to understand the purpose of this prophecy.
Hadhrat Ahmad(as) states:
“Verily, Allah found my cousins and other relatives (Ahmad Baig, etc) indulged in harmful thoughts and deeds, and found them immersed in shameful traditions, false ideologies and innovations in the faith. And found that they are the ones to follow their base desires and lusts. And they reject the being of Allah and are among those who cause disorder” (Aina Kamalat-e-Islam)
He also states:
“These people are staunch disbelievers of Allah and His Messenger and they do not believe in the decree of Allah, rather they are atheists”(Aina Kamalat-e-Islam, age 568)
Hadhrat Ahmad(as) has given a beautiful incident in this same book which proves how atheistic they were. He states:
“One night it so happened that I was sitting in my home, when a man came to me weeping. I became worried and inquired, “Have you been informed of the death of someone?” He responded, “No, even greater so!”. I was sitting with those people who have reverted from the religion of Allah. One of them cursed at the Prophet (saw) in such a filthy and offensive manner that I have never heard the like of it from the mouth of any disbeliever. Moreover, I saw that they placed the Holy Qur’an beneath their feet and stepped on it. They were uttering such vile words that the tongue becomes filthy even by writing them. And they were saying that the being of Allah is nothing and there is no God in this world. This is merely a lie which the fabricators have concocted. I said to him “Did I not tell you that you should not sit with such people?” So fear God, and do not sit with them again and repent” They mock Allah and His Messenger and say that God Forbid, the Qur’an was fabricated by the Prophet Muhammad (saw) and that he was an apostate”
The family of Ahmad Baig had exceeded all bounds and did not believe in the Prophet Muhammad (saw) nor Allah. They were full of arrogance and addressed the Messiah saying:
“Bring forth to us a sign, if you are among the truthful”
Hadhrat Ahmad(as) wrote:
“They wrote a letter in which they had cursed the Holy Prophet(saw) and the Holy Qur’an. They had rejected the being of Allah, Exalted by His Name, and demanded from me a sign of my truthfulness. They circulated this letter far and wide and the non Muslims of India (Christians) greatly helped them in this cause and they greatly exceeded the bounds”
The letter sent to Hadhrat Ahmad(as) was published in Chashma-e-Nur August 1885. Upon this Hadhrat Ahmad(as) prayed for a powerful sign for his truth. Hadhrat Ahmad(as) referred to this in Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam in the following words:
“And I said, O My Lord! Help your servant and disgrace your enemies”
In response to this Allah the Almighty gave the Promised Messiah(as) the sign which they were waiting for. The following words were revealed:
“Verily, I have seen their disobedience and rebellion. Hence, I shall soon annihilate them by various afflictions and I shall destroy them under the heavens. And you shall soon see how I deal with them. And We have power over all things. I shall make their women widows, and their children orphans and their homes abandoned so that they may taste the consequences of their words and actions. But I shall not destroy them in a single strike, rather, gradually, so that they may return and become of those who repent. And my curse shall descend upon them, and upon the walls of their house, and upon their young ones and their elders and their women and their men and their guests who enter through their doors and all of them shall be among the accursed”
This prophecy itself shows that the revelation given to Hadhrat Ahmad(as) was that Allah the Exalted had given the option for repentance in the prophecy. For this reason Allah Stated:
“I shall not destroy them in a single strike, rather gradually so that they may return and become of those who repent”
Hadhrat Ahmad(as) elaborated that if Mirza Ahmad Baig married his daughter Muhammadi Begum to Hadhrat Ahmad(as), then as a result of this wedlock, Muhammadi Begum and her family would partake in blessings from the heavens as the family of Ummi Habibah and Hadhrat Saudah did. The families and tribes of both joined Islam. This wedlock was therefore a blessing.
Hadhrat Ahmad(as) explained that if Mirza Ahmad Baig refused to marry his daughter to the Messiah(as), he would die within three years of marrying Muhammadi Begum to someone else, and the person to whom Muhammadi Begum would be wed, would also die 2 1/2 years following the marriage. Hence, after becoming a widow, Muhammadi Begum would then marry the Messiah.
Hadhrat Ahmad(as) stated according to knowledge from Allah:
“That ever powerful and wise God said to me that you should put forth a marriage proposal for the daughter of this individual (Mirza Ahmad Baig), and tell them that you shall receive kindness and good treatment as a result of the fulfillment of this condition. And this marriage shall be a source of blessings for you and a sign of mercy. And you shall partake in all the mercy and blessings specified in the announcement of 20th February 1886. However, if you refuse, the outcome of this lady will be very unpleasant, and her father will die within 3 years of the marriage”
Along with this revelation, Hadhrat Ahmad(as) was also told that Ahmad Baig would indeed marry his daughter to someone else. He received the revelation:
“They rejected our signs and they would mock at them. Allah would suffice thee against them and return her to you”
Both of these revelations make it clear that the girl will definitely be married to someone else. They would reject the Will of Allah and marry the girl to someone else. The sect revelation explicitly states that she would marry someone else, as Allah uses the words “Yarudduha”. It also indicates that Ahmad Baig and others would be destroyed if they do not repent.
May Allah (swt) guide us all on the straight path, Amin.
Mirza was a liar how can one get past that!
How was he a liar. His books and Arabic writing were far beyond any scholar and he even challenged them by saying if anyone can write better than me I will burn all of my books, and no one could come close. So you tell me then how was he a liar??
Haha handwriting competition 🤣 btw his arabic has so many grammatical mistakes . You idiots
after the 1857 war of independence was defeated and the british came back to power , they hunted the rebels , who were mainly the muslim aristocracy all over northern india . for 3-4 months the colonial army companies went around the country side rounding up the remnants of the former insurgents now in hiding -- and hanging them in vilage squares and on trees around the villages . the muslim gentry was mainly of afghan , mughal , persian turkish , arab descent , and because of their lighter skin and relatively tall stature easily distinguished from the local population who were darker skinned and shorter in height . and so were easily traced and summararily hanged by these raiding british contingents . only those muslims were able to save their skins who sided with the british or became their accomplice . there were many muslim mendicants , pirs , and , faqirs who became agents of the colonial government and later recieved large estates as reward .
mirza sahib whose ancestors probably came from samarkand bukhara and were known as mughal in india was just one more of such muslims , trying to save his skin and becoming an agent of british imperial grand strategy of divide and rule in the indian sub continent .
Yeah..n in those times plenty such grps rose to.power by the aid of brits..read kinzulamal..its ll about blindly following brits.
It is because of your expertise and your mirza mardud`s expertise you ware Declared KAFIR on 7/7/1974...lol
How come he don't know something that every one knows about kadiyani, he is trying his best to escape from this 😂
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
We Islam know everything about Muhammad saw bibliography, that why we follow him. But heblindky follow, without knowing who he prophet is. How ignorance.
All he said is that he doesn’t know about the topic. There’s no point discussing a point that someone is uneducated on.
@KhanKhan-nd1dk Because he ﷺ received revelation and is mentioned in the Quran many times which Allah Swt says to follow his sunnah. Mirza Ghulam isn’t mentioned once in nor the Quran and Hadith and it mentions that Muhammad ﷺ is the last messenger within the Quran 😭it mentions that isa AS will come back on this earth but they (qadyani’s) deny. Mirza ghulam has a humiliating death and lied many times to try and prove he is a messenger or a prophet which isn’t true because he is a dajaal. If your not a Muslim don’t talk, if you call yourself a Muslim then you are not for questioning the Prophethood of Muhammad ﷺ. Go do some research with an open heart and you will see that the ahmadiyyah are blind and kafirs.
@@IEH_ Not everyone knows EVERY prophecy of EVERY prophet in full DEPTH. You cannot claim that he knew the prophecy well but refused to answer based on nothing! Since when was mind reading a thing, lol?
No Muslim can show proof that Jesus (AS) is alive, yet they all believe it. How can a billion people believe non Ahmad Islam but no one knows this major topic?
Man was absolutely terrified to answer the question. He’s basically now claiming that he’s not sure if those things happened. His excuse was not reading a book and showing a source. Did the things happen or not?
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@ismaelmalik5418 like the sheikh said you need to worry if your prophet is a real prophet before you worry about these topics because it will be a big problem for you Inshallah
@KhanKhan-nd1dk are you Muslim?
@@ismaelmalik5418why is it that Kadiyani’s always talk without reference?
@@ismaelmalik5418brother are you a Kadiyani?
Subhanallah, may Allah reward the brother for his efforts. May Allah rectify those who are astray, and may Allah guide us to the straight path, and keep us sincere.
Why? this debate was horrible. This guy didn't even want to have this discussion, but sunni guy directed, and drove the topic of discussion to his own choosing. Jus because he's muslim you say "reward the brother" he can't even speak English well, and he's not educated I can tell, and he doesn't shine with wisdom. He only has hatred in his heart. Stop being biased.
@@agostocobain2729 I agree that the substance of the "debate" never materialised. In fact, I don't even think it was a debate. It was a bunch of strange evasive people who hung around for more than hour but yet never really engaged in the conversation. The man on the right maintained his composure despite this. And for that, his effort is good.
@@agostocobain2729just because you can't speak good English, doesn't mean you aren't educated. But just because you think it is, is why you are uneducated.
@@youssef.sarhan
Bcz these bunch of goons cdnt bear hearing truth...they deliberatly disrupted the dialogue...while sheikh tried to speak..but when yhe guy spoke..sheikh listened.This alone shows these qadyani goons dont wana believe or hear truth..why? Bcz of facilities provided to them by brits n israiiiil.
"I don't know" is the excuse. Go & read the source.
How can you expect us to respect a false scumbag?
Sheikh please keep on talking about Mohammadi Begum. People want to know every detail of this issue. Lovely kadianis really want to know about Mohammadi Begum
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
May allah protect us from this people
I don’t know much about the Ahmadiya sect but for some odd reason nearly every ex-Muslim I heard about were once upon a time a follower of this sect, the question is why? You will rarely find a ex-Muslim from Sunni or Shiah and if they do they remain silent about why they left Islam while the Ahmadiya not only go around boasting but they are given book deals or a platform by major Christian organisations RZIM and liberty university to name two again why? This question the Ahmadiya sect must answer
Yes ,i think it may be a reason
Shiats leave shiat religion for athiesm or Sunni Islam DAILY!
Shia are not Muslims to begin with.
When someone claimed to receive revelation?
What kind of revelation did Ahmadiyya received from Almighty?
Well umm......
That lsa (as) is dead !
As you have kept him Alive for 223years and you can't even prove it from the Quran. Does it make Sense ! See how your Sheikh running from the topic 😅 ! Storytellers and full of doctrine
What do you make of the ayah that says “they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him?”
@@mcegypt20 ! Here Out
What Ahmadis say's make Sense and goes according to the Quran and Bible !
Study both with Pure Heart you will understand it ! Was him they crucify and didn't die ! Allah conclueded that story in the Quran but most Muslims misunderstood ! May Allah guide you to the right Path.
Wassalamu Alaikum
@@mohammedosei1687 get a commode arranged for me my son
Mirza once claimed that he was Eisa
Another time he claimed to be the Mahdi
He also claimed he was Mary. He was also recorded to be mentally ill and deluded.
@@dm_1236Where was he recorded ill or deluded? It’s honestly so strange how you lot lie so much on the Messiah AS and yet still call ahmadi liars. He wasn’t ill nor deluded he was one of the most respected debaters and preachers in his land and wrote an abundance of beautiful books. Your lost. Maybe your parents teach you to lie about things you don’t know 🤷🏾♂️
@@Muslim1000 you seem to be deluded
Don’t you know how he ran away from debate with Mehr wali
@@Muslim1000 tell me
Do u believe Musailymah was a prophet
@@gamekid2420No he was not. He was false prophet during the time of The prophet Muhammad SAW and he not a Promissed messiah in the lattar day like Ghulam Ahmad (AS), rather from the same period as our Prophet PBUH.
Everytime you have a conversation with a qadiyani you should also ask/inquire if they converted or they were born in a qadiyani family. I think these people are born into this and have been fed this false information and now they are programed to think they are correct. They are following a book called "qandeel-e-sadaqat" all the debating points they have are from this book.
I would recommend the brothers who want to debate or converse with the qadiyanis to download this book and go over it so you can understand their point of view. I read the table of content of this book, it is so misleading and it is made to create confusion for people with weak iman or for people who are trying to find a path.
And I think these people think they are bringing exposure to their cause by debating and getting screen time with popular RUclipsrs.
I request all the Muslim brothers who talk with these people, please don't let them talk too long about their point of view because they can make short videos of explaining them selves and there are a lot of Muslims in Southeast Asia who share this type of short videos, shaitan needs only a small opening to start misleading.
May Allah guide us and protect us and our coming generations. Ameen.
I will copy and post this comment on every video I come across with qadiyanis in it to bring awareness. If you can please share it so people will understand. JazakAllah.
Masha Allah, May Allah keep Sheikh Mohammed healthy always, Allah bless him with knowledge and deep understanding about Qur'an and Hadist
This sheikh is fake .
Simple conclusion, when a person said things which werent truthfull , whatever he said afterwards doesn't worth a penny .. that's what happens with miza gollum qadiyani . He prophecied things which proved to be false .. end of story .. whatever he said who cares..
Hey don't call me names 😭😭😭
Sheikh done a job on these gormless tools. May Allah preserve the sheikh
Pray for this brother in humanity, I think he's open minded enough to research and find the truth.
Does he have skin pigmentation?
@@pabloescobarparis6586 wtf?
“Brother in humanity” 😭😭😂😂😂
Dont call that vile individual "Hazrat".
May Allah SWT preserve and increase our shaykh
What are you doing believing in something you know nothing about about? Sounds like a cop out to me he simply couldn't handle his beliefs being dissected.
That's their standard tactic. When they realize they will be pinned down, they say I'm not an expert on this part of my faith. Even seniors like him do that.
May Allah guide them and keep our faith firm
Are ALL Muslims experts in EVERY aspect of Islam? We both know that they are not, so your point has no basis. If I asked you to prove Isa(as) is alive using the Quran, can you do such a thing? Can you show me a single proof that says Isa(as) is currently alive and in Heaven? You cannot, so you live by this double standard that you oppress unto Ahmadi Muslims.
Please respond with your proof, Jazakallah
@@faisalbhutter845 I didn't say he had to be an expert. You should have an understanding based on reasoning and logic to believe in something. Otherwise it is blind faith. I have an understanding of Islam so reverted. Not like this guy who must've been born into this 'sect' and clearly has no idea about it.
why is it not common knowledge that there no other nabi (prophet) or rasul (messenger) will be sent after the passing of Nabi Muhammad S.A.W. ? our prophet is the last prophet and messenger sent by our Creator so it should squashed any other mortal claim of prophethood. Aa'uzzubillah, i seek the protection from Allah, The Almighty from the distraction, whisper and tricks from syaitan and its ilk as well request to Him to kept my Iman, my Faith steadfast.
Ahmadiyya is a religion lacking a solid foundation. One notable aspect of Ahmadis is their reluctance to entertain questions or criticism regarding Mirza Ghulam. When inquiries about him are raised, they tend to respond with counter-questions as a means of evading the situation. This practice might be seen as a strategic maneuver or a vulnerability in their belief system.
What Ahmadi individual have you met that hasn’t answered questions or given evidence to their points. The foundation is as solid as it gets. Isa AS is dead and the Promissed Messiah is here. You guys still believe he is physically alive in the heavens and even though the Quran literally says that all prophets before Prophet Muhammad SAW have died (including Isa). Your ulema is crumbling. In fact answer the question. Where in the Quran does it say that Isa (AS)s both soul AND body was lifted into the heavens?
@@Muslim1000 yeah, rite. I can bet you that you'll avoid answering the questions about the personal life of that Scumbag Mirza Ghulam and instead of answering, you'll try to twist it by asking stupid questions. Don't tell me those stupid excuses. I stand firm on my opinion that your religion stands on fake ideology and it make no sense at all.
@@Muslim1000 وَقَوۡلِهِمۡ إِنَّا قَتَلۡنَا ٱلۡمَسِیحَ عِیسَى ٱبۡنَ مَرۡیَمَ رَسُولَ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَـٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمۡۚ وَإِنَّ ٱلَّذِینَ ٱخۡتَلَفُوا۟ فِیهِ لَفِی شَكࣲّ مِّنۡهُۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنۡ عِلۡمٍ إِلَّا ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ یَقِینَۢا﴿ ١٥٧ ﴾ • Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. An-Nisa', Ayah
157
بَل رَّفَعَهُ ٱللَّهُ إِلَیۡهِۚ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَزِیزًا حَكِیمࣰا﴿ ١٥٨ ﴾ • Sahih International: Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. An-Nisa', Ayah 158
@@Bing.chilling.1 Allah states:
And their saying, ‘We did kill the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah;’ whereas they kill him not, nor crucified him, but he was made to appear to them like one crucified; and those who differ therein are certainly in a state of doubt about it; they have no definite knowledge thereof, but only follow a conjecture; and they did not convert this conjecture into a certainty; On the contrary, Allah exalted him to Himself. And Allah is Mighty, Wise.(Chapter 4 Verses 157-158)
Firstly, it is clear that in no way does the fact that Isa (AS) was not killed or crucified, suggest that he (AS) is alive in the heavens. This same ayah can apply to even the Holy Prophet (SAW) who was neither killed nor crucified and was also raised. This applies to many prophets and many righteous people who have passed. They were neither killed nor crucified and were indeed raised by Allah, who is Al-Rafi, the One Who Exalts. However, this does not mean that any Prophet is alive in the heavens physically. Furthermore, this verse does not have the word alive, bodily, or the skies or the term heaven.
Some have tried to use the words “wa lakin shubbiha lahum” to mean that another person’s face was switched with the face of Isaas who was killed, while Isaas was raised to the heavens. This once again has no basis in the Qur’an nor do any Arabic dictionaries ever support such a meaning attributed to the words.
The Jews wanted to crucify Isa (AS) meaning put him to death on the cross, to prove to the public that Isa (AS)was, God Forbid, a false prophet as Deuteronomy Chapter 21 Verses 21-23 states in regards to the ones who die on the cross. This was the plan of the Jews to show that Isa (AS) was, God forbid, a false prophet. Such an interpretation that another person’s face’s likeness was put onto Isa (AS) and that person was killed instead of Isa (AS), is totally unacceptable for many reasons. Firstly, the Jews wanted to show the people that Isa (AS) would die on the cross to prove him false, so if another man died in his place, with his face, the people would have still seen Isa (AS), and to them he would remain a false prophet, God Forbid. Some believe that it’s because Isa (AS) was going to be put on the cross, Allah decided that his prophet should not be persecuted, and therefore was raised to the heavens. This again is against the teachings of the Qur’an and contradicts the reaction the other prophets received from their people. The Holy Prophet (SAW) faced a lot of persecution in Ta’if and his feet would be drenched in blood. His (SAW)‘s reply was always to pray to Allah for protection as did Isa (AS), which is the reason Allah did not let him die on the cross.
If we were to assume that Allah did indeed put the looks of Isa (AS) onto someone else, Allah would be accused for many things against his way. Firstly one would say that Allah secretly raised a prophet of Allah from the earth to the heavens, contradicting the Qur’an and removing his prophet from his mission, in fear of the Jews who defeated him.
@@Bing.chilling.1How can a sincere Muslim after all of the proof in regards to the death of Isa (AS) present in the Qur’an and the Ahadith, believe that Allah was afraid of the Jews and they had defeated him? The Qur’an has made it clear that the Prophets always fulfill their missions in their lifetime on earth and are persecuted, but protected by Allah. Secondly, why would an innocent person have to die for no reason? Thirdly Allah has made it clear in the Qur’an that we should not alter ourselves yet the non Ahmadi Muslims have put such an allegation on Allah, that He himself altered his creation, God Forbid!
Masha'allah dream team is there, Bro Paul , Nazim and Sheikh
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@ismaelmalik5418can you give your sources?
For argument sake i accept Jesus AS is dead. How its justifiable to accept the Dajjal as Prophet?
If it isn’t “ your area “ why are you even bothering to debate with Sh. Muhammad ? By the way, whoever doesn’t believe that Prophet Muhammad Peace And Blessings Upon Him isn’t the last and final messenger of Allah, that there will be another prophet after him S.A.W, is not Muslim. Period. Qadiyani aren’t Muslim. Please don’t be fooled by their trickery. This man Mirza Qaiyani claimed to be prophet Nauzibillah in Qadiyan ( dirty in India ) during the British Raaj. He had full support of the rulers at that time ( British ) and they still support this cult. 99% of this cult lives in the west. They wouldn’t dare live in any Muslim country, because they’ve been exposed as fornicators.
Seems like Sheikh is scared of the Quran when it comes to death of Isa (as)😂😂 Makes sense because it is impossible to prove he is alive
I know bro, all keyboard warriors down here, will say all these disgusting allegations against the Promised Messiah (AS) but can’t answer the simple questions about the death of Isa (AS).
Quadiani is more worried about whether crowd is big or not. Not about the the discussion. Thats what they want.... exposure is all they care about. Do not give them that.
Why can't yall be nice to me for once 😭
@@TheDysentricDajjal 🤣
Sheikh : I dont listen to instruction... So say please 💀
Thank you Sheikh to showing what Jihad is in nowaday era
حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ حَدَّثَنِي مَالِكٌ عَنْ أَبِي الزِّنَادِ عَنْ الْأَعْرَجِ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ. قَالَ: تَكَفَّلَ اللَّهُ لِمَنْ جَاهَدَ فِي سَبِيلِهِ. لَا يُخْرِجُهُ إِلَّا الْجِهَادُ فِي سَبِيلِهِ وَتَصْدِيقُ كَلِمَاتِهِ بِأَنْ يُدْخِلَهُ الْجَنَّةَ أَوْ يَرْجِعَهُ إِلَى مَسْكَنِهِ الَّذِي خَرَجَ مِنْهُ مَعَ مَا نَالَ مِنْ أَجْرٍ أَوْ غَنِيمَةٍ
there is book called by MIRZA GULAM QADYANI K 200 JOOT which is writen in urdu
Why don’t Qadiani accept that Musaimah Qazzab was also a prophet
Hahaha sheikh 😅😅😅 i cant stop my laughing. Sheikh is sigma
Brutal
May Allah protect us from this disbelief
which one ?
@@user-yp2jq6hd5f😂 wow you life must be great
@KhanKhan-nd1dk The Quran tells us he was , and if you believe the quran then you will accept that. nothing mentioned about mirza
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It’s called selective amnesia all Qadiani’s suffer from it as soon as Mirza is brought into the question. Mirza ghulam said his prophecies were what he wanted to be judged From !
From the beginning the guy knew that all of his religion will fall down 😂😂😂😂😂by proving his guy is not a prophet 😂
May Allah guide them to. Islam
MashaAllah steadfastness by true ISLAMIC preacher in uncovering false Ahmadi prophet and his falsely proven claims about muhammadi begum..
My favorite in all speakers corner is Sheikh Mohammad.
After the death of ceasar a long series of civil wars that ended in the death of the Roman Republic and the birth of the Roman Empire. These People need to learn and to come back to islam and they need to learn history.
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Scumbag 😂 shiek is killing me 😂
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
The root/importance is the prophecy, becuase if you proof the ahmadiya Prophet is false, then why would you take the false teachings/understanding of the Qur'an.
What is the point of discussing interpretation of Qur'an, it's the source of the understanding is corrupt.
The example ahamadi said, why we would take teaching from Christian about Islam shows the importance of the source.
There's Muslims that believe there was a prophet after the 'LAST' Messenger? Didn't Prophet SAW prophecise there'd be False messengers after him? This is Insanity.
What’s insanity is that you believe that Isa (AS) is still alive after 2000 years in the heavens and that he’s going to come down with flying horses and kill a monster and kill pigs and kaffir (which is haram) and come down wearing gold (which is also haram). Ah yes but we are the ones who are insane 😂👍🏾. Genuinely May Allah guide you.
ceaser was continued by different civilisations after, germans called their leader kaiser, russians called it tsar.
Essa (as) died or not, he is in havens or on mars...what does it got to do with mirza qadiyani mardud is a prophet or NOT?
Maybe because YOUR belief is that he’s coming back. That’s why it’s relevant you imbecile. You can’t just believe that he’s alive in the heavens and then show no evidence that he’s in the heavens with his body.
Charlatan !! He cones to debate the authenticity of his prophet and then says he is not familier with a grave subject where a prophecy did not come true 😮
39:25 This man is giving the incomplete Hadeeth. The full Hadeeth states that a companion was asked if he saw Ibrahim Ibn Muhammad with his own eyes. The companion replied that yes he saw him, had he grown up to be an adult he would have been a prophet as well but Muhammad (ﷺ) is the final Prophet and Allah has written in the Quran that He (ﷺ)is the final prophet therefore he would not be a father of any male children. Ahmedis quote incomplete Hadeeth and use that as their leaf to stand on. In addition to this, Quran 33:40 states: Muḥammad is not the father of any of your men, but is the Messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets. And Allah has ˹perfect˺ knowledge of all things."
It’s easy to say it’s not my area of expertise when there is a question you can’t answer
Brother MS is on top of his game. He stick to his point ...
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
But what about Mohammedi begum???
02:30 “You need to talk about something we know about…” Is that how you learn? Imagine if college was like this 😂 But seriously, this is very cultish to refuse to get informed. I wouldn’t even waste my time with them, they’re no different than other cults.
the same guy said in another video that their qadiyani leaders will BAN them from the park if they keep discussing ahmadiya loooooooooool. it's literally a cult
Excuse me? A cult?! Take back your words! 😡😭
@@TheDysentricDajjal I am open to dialogue, but this is my opinion, why should I take it back?
@@roskar cuz.....cuz....idk, you hurt my feelings i guess 😭
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
What I would have asked him what is the difference between mirza ghulam Ahmed’s claim to prophecy and all the other false messiahs like the founder of the Nation of Islam.
If you don't know, seek & ask people who know .
Wow! Not a Muslim myself but man these Ahmadis and Shias having taking heavy losses lately!
That Ahmadi cannot be taken seriously.
How can he trust in a so-called prophet and not have studied and be ready to explain the seeming false prophecies of his prophet, that are publicly known?
He is following foolishly if he has not investigated these matters for himself.
Sheikh Mohammad telling him "Your apology is accepted" is the funniest part of this dialogue.
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@ismaelmalik5418 stop lying
@@ismaelmalik5418 According to Ibn Taymiyyaa and Abdul Wahhaab the last and final prophet is Muhammad peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him.Anyone who believes of a prophet like of the KAZZAAB MGA is out of the fold of Islaam.What's your point?Talk about the character and the lies of the DAJJAAL MGA. His writings are full of contradiction and his prophecies are a MESS.Sorry dude.
@@mariyanbusanti6295 if you don’t know some thing. You should stay quiet. References are posted on ahmadi answers. Accept the promissed messiah (as) which you are also waiting for . Don’t act ignorant . At least learn about your own aqeeda.
This ist not a Debate but Chaos!
Sad state of affairs for Muslims. If we all just stick to the Quran and left what men said, we would be united. The unbelievers could not corrupt the Quran so they found other ways.
Prophet Isa (Jesus) on his second coming , will follow the last prophet Muhammad's (bpuh) teachings & not as a new prophet.
These qadiyanis crack me up. They want to shut people up from telling the truth about Mirza Ghulam kazzaab by going on and on about being respectful. Yet they follow someone who spent his whole time cursing and swearing at others!
In sha Allah on the day of quiyama. May this “sheik” see the truth and the overflow of regret fills him. Calling the Messiah (AS) a scumbag. What type of preacher is this. May Allah guide people like this 😬
Are you saying mirza gulam is a messiah?
@@lionelsnitchie4539Because there is authentic Hadith and Quranic verses that show he is and fulfils the Prophecies visioned by Prophet Muhammad SAW about the lattar day Messiah.
Why don't you guys go debate a Ahmadi scholar and not catch people who have no idea. Too scared, huh?
And the gollum mashud never showed up after reading about Mohammadi begum.
He don’t know the topic but new the women’s full name doesn’t know my foot he knows what the Shelkh was on about because he knows his game was a up
💯...
If you believe in a prophet, would you not study who he married as a daee?
You can know surface-level knowledge and not know more. What's your point?
@@nephartuzim8879 The biggest mistake you can make is to come to speakers corner with surface level knowledge and attempt to have a discussion.
@@scaryjoker The man was still honest and said that he'd prefer to approach from another angle. You cannot expect everyone to know absolutely every angle of every topic. Come on now akhi.
Why do you have to know the detail. If he was a prophet and he prophesied something that failed to materialise then it questions his prophecy - the Ahmadi is playing games
It's funny how none of them Qadyani's know about his failed prophecies or wish to find out what the facts are but they would rather go on believing in a man who is a charlatan.
Why he keeps saying that the sheik rude to him? From my view he is very difficult to deal with 😢
8:15 just get lost please😂😂😂😂😂 sheikh i salute you on this one
If the Qadyani knew her name, why didnt he up on her. Liar, liar, pants on fire
Qadyani have no knowledge,,,, hazrat muhammad peace be upon him is last prophet ofAllah,,, when he donot know any thing about his religion,,, why he is talking with different muslim scholers,, shaikhs in this park
18:24 I saw another legend behind the shaik with black glasses ❤
Haha 😅
Hahaha, me too
Even shia believe Mohammad pbuh is the final and no other prophet will come after Mohammad pbuh so why is the quadini using a false hadith
Shia violate finality of prophethood 12 times as they say that their imam are higher status than all prophet
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@ismaelmalik5418 these are exterme ends of Shi'as just like there are extrame ends of Sunni's
I dont know who confuses me more the christian version of the trinity or the ahmedis belief😅
Ahmaadiya's message to us is:" love for all and hatred for none". That message has a high religious quality. What are sunni and shia' s message to the world? Maybe:" let us do jihad"😢😢😢
Our Message is believe in Allah and his messengers and do good to all
Sometimes I wish prophethood would have totally ended at prophet Muhammad saw like no previous prophets were coming either!
In other words, i wish prophetic era would have totally ended at prophet Muhammad saw and we would be living in post prophetic era!
there are no more prophets after Muhammad saw
Jesus Christ is coming back and then prophetic era will end FYI.
Then no prophet will come whether new or previous!
That’s the Sunni belief which is mine!
Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
@@nizamknight Salafi sheikh should know that ibn taimea(ra) ibn Qayyum (ra) imam Abdul wahab (ra) all said that Jesus Israeli (as) is dead like other prophets. And we do not have any difference on continuation of prophet except you don’t beleive in finality of prophethood. As you beleive Jesus israel (as) will come after syedna muhummad(sa)
Hiding your fave behind a mask is cowardice, regardless of how gangster you think are.
They have Created by Money by Christians & Jews to Create Fithna among True Muslims by Changing some Ayat// Verse of Al Quran
Lol why did the Arab who can read Quran and Ahadeeth leave Islam to follow a Punjabi Dajjal?
What kind of blatant cop out. These snakes have no shame,look at the level of deception, soon as he realizes that he will get exposed he comes out with oh i don't know enough about it.
Honestly this Sheikh guy is arrogant and goes against islamic teachings…Even Adnan Rashid who is not Ahmadi makes more sense and does not insult his opponent like this so called Muslim
In order to defend mirza he is trying to prove Prohet Mohammed صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم wrong about his prophesies
Mirza ghulam the dog
May allah guide the qadiani to Islam
With Ahamadiyya community, except Isa (A.S) we should discuss everything, because they want others to indulge on other irrelevant topics except their self proclaimed prophet "MGA"
Sunni Muslims: Jesus is not dead! It is Muhammad pbuh who is dead and buried, Allah saved his truly beloved
Prophet (Isa) to come and save the Ummah. He will save Islam and be the last prophet to walk this planet
Oh btw, just because Isa is the last prophet to walk this earth, doesn’t mean he’s last.
Also the verse in Quran which declares Isa to be prophet to Israelites (rasoolan ala Bani Israel) will become invalid because Isa will now be a rasool to the Muslims (oh no, just realised that’s a Nabi after prophet Muhammad- how can I fix this, oh yes! He won’t be a prophet anymore because Allah will realise He made a rule that now is causing Him problems. Luckily, the Sunni “scholars” are here to help Allah in the rules that He now needs to break- phew)
Being a native Urdu speaker, I testify that Urdu is heavily influenced with Arabic and then Persian and other local languages more than 80% of words in Urdu are from Arabic. Khaatim literally and exactly means the same as in Arabic.
@@user-tq5zm7ei7x I don’t need any research on Ghulam Ahmed to declare him false prophet and لعنہ اللہ and I am responding this only for Muslim readers not for qadiyanis .
Reply: خاتم in Arabic is فاعل of ختم same as Urdu and it means “end/seal/finish”, but with the logic above it means when Allah in the Quran (سورۃ البقرہ) says ختم اللہ علی قلوبہم وعلی سمعھم وابصارہم غشاوہ ، ولھم عذاب عظیم it means Allah did best them on their hearts , on their hearings and on their visions is a veil and for them is a great punishment.
Baki I don’t need taking lessons on Urdu or Arabic from a non native /Punjabi speaker.
this is not your platform, anyone can respond to your statements! Last time i checked RUclips was not owned
by you. @@hannanatiqsiddiqui