@antoviamonte3429 most churches will never mention this but, Paul was called by the original church on the charges of apostasy. Read the Essene Gospel of Peace and you'll understand why more and more Christians are rejecting Paul and returning to only the teachings of Jesus.
@GunFuiChi as a new beliver once I heard this I was instantly drawn to it as truth. Jesus is the way he said it himself. I belive the disconnect most have with the Christ based religion is the idea all you have to do is ask for forgiveness but not change. Jesus said you must repent and walk the middle path a part from the world. The false gospel gives people lies about their sin nature. You can sin as we all are made of flesh. But you must always honestly try to live a righteous life and treat others with love and respect.
Well... i don't think it's an Italian thing... it's universalisme... which is not align with Cristianity in general... i am Greek by the way... and Orthodox Cristian... and i agree with what he is saying100%.
All based on pure ignorance. Those same people do not even know anything about what their pope says and what Catholicism teaches. nowadays people "learn" false facts from social media and those , like this one are all fakes.
You can't disagree with the office of the pope. That means you're disagreeing with a decision and action of Jesus Himself when he established the church. (Did I mention you're also disagreeing with 7 church councils that all the Ortho bishops recognized and signed is on the perpetual supremacy of the pope?)
Catholic here 👋 big fan (so is my brother btw). It really upsets me when Pope Francis says crap like this, off-the-cuff heretical statements. He also recently said "The Gospel of Jesus Christ alone is the source of life for mankind," so these statements seem to be contradictory. I don't think he thinks his words through before he speaks. And he seems to be a horrible theologian. I appreciate you candor and translation. Glory be to Jesus Christ our King. Hope you come back to Rome one day, brother 🙏
As a Christian I agree with the Pope because God is Love, so Christ is Love, so what means that Christ is the only way, is that Love is the only way!! and any person from any religion can live with love!
Yea I'm not Catholic, or religious at all, but he's entitled to have his own views as a person, but as the Pope, his duty is to uphold the beliefs of the church. If he can't do that, then he shouldn't be the Pope.
@@MarceloSeravalliYour position on this is neither Christian nor scriptural and misses completely and misinterprets the central message of Christianity.
Wow good for you…you sound like a little kid. “You like the colour blue, so I’m on your team”. Just listen to what he has to say first and then deduce if it’s worth agreeing with.
I'm Jewish but i cringe when people dilute or compromise the beliefs of their religion to please others. We can be completely honest with eachother and still love and respect eachother.
Religious diversity is as vital to human existence as cultural diversity. This current Pope serves an agenda (the 2030 Agenda) that wants to extinguish human diversity and create a generic religion and a generic global culture. They even want to extinguish racial differences (The Kalergi Plan). We should celebrate our differences as much as we celebrate what we have in common. Variety is the spice of life. I agree. Honesty and respect.
As a Jew how do you feel about Miriam Adelson and Bill Ackman donating massive amounts of money to Donald Trump while the State of Israel is baiting Iran into a war? Consider that America fought the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, and intervened in Libya and Syria on Israel's behalf (see the Clean Break Memo). If you're not Orthodox, how do you feel about George Soros and Mike Bloomberg donating massive amounts of money to Kamala Harris to flood the country with immigrants? Consider that America will become majority minority by 2045.
Muhammed jihading would like to haveva word with you. As an ex muslim, religious wars and religious oppression in Islamic countries is a severe problem. You can't even leave Islam in progressive Muslim countries like Indonesia.
As a religious Jew, how do you feel about Miriam Adelson and Bill Ackman donating millions to Donald Trump so he will defend Israel from Iran, just how the US defended Israel from Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, etc, by invading them.
I am a Catholic and I am frequently very confused by Pope Francis. Pope-splainers are working overtime but I don't see how this can possibly fall within Catholicism at all.
As a protastant I don't really have much of an issue with Catholics (aside from the prot bashing so many do, plus the consistent infighting between them and the Orthodox) but yea this was in fact pope Francis speaking heresy. Not saying that as a insult.
Because not everything in non Christian religions is evil. The Pope is speaking very broadly here and not in a formal theological context, and even the way he introduced the context is as opposed to combative arguing.
@@spiffygonzales5160 oddly, I never really see bashing, except from the usual online speakers. And there's quite a bunch so you're not inaccurate. It's that 80/20 rule again--everyone else is just the classic "born catholic" and is too busy with family and work [... i mean yeah eternal salvation is THE thing but Jimmy's still waiting at Daycare and College tuition spiked yet again.]
I know this to be true. This was exactly what I thought in the years leading up to me becoming an atheist. I am an atheist no longer. But you are right. It's an incredibly dangerous statement for the Pope of all people to make.
Yeah its my mindset when im atheis, if all religion is the same either all of them is true or all of them is false, ergo most people will say all religions is false
@@Asamur I'm not even religious at all, and it's offensive to me how people keep trying to reinterpret Christianity. As an individual, you can have any opinion you want about LGBT and all that, but as the Pope, you're supposed to represent the views of the church, as stated in the Bible. If you don't agree with those views, then don't be Catholic, and for God's sake don't be the Pope.
100% nie wiem w co gra ten papież ale jedno jest pewne, jego nauczanie nie jest katolickie, powoli już nawet nie chrześcijańskie.... Paczamama to był kamień milowy....
The pope disagree with this, the same way that he agrees with this *Riyad as-Salihin 158* Muhammad said, that he is the one who will judge who enters into heaven. So, the pope agrees with muslims that muhammad is god.
Remember when "is the Pope Catholic?" was rhetorical? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Funny enough, he's more Catholic than most devout Catholics. Every single Catholic priest I've heard speak of Islam has said nothing but nice things and how its close to christianity and is the same god that they worship.
@@marktodd3097 Hyperbole but you have a point. The God of Islam supports the right to self defense. Jesus opposes it and says turn the other cheek, do not resist evil, forgive everyone no matter what or your Father wont forgive you.
@@valleyshrew No it’s not hyperbole and it’s not my opinion. The Quran goes into great detail about the attributes of Allah and its very different, in fact the opposite of what Jesus says.
@SoldierDrew Only when speaking "Ex Cathedra" is a Papal pronouncement considered infallible. What he did in this situation is express his personal opinion and it is not binding on Catholics.
@@SoldierDrew I mean... this is a large part of WHY I often say that I personally see the existence of the office of Pope as an act of heresy in and of itself. As I'm sure you've guess, I'm Christian, but I'm not Catholic. I see Catholicism as a poster child for what Christ warned his followers about with the parable about wolves in sheep's clothing. Sure, the rank-and-file devotees might be sincere in their beliefs, but they're being lead by a corrupt institution. The wolves are watching the flock.
@@SoldierDrew Not so. he can only claim infallibility when issuing a Papal decree or "Bull". If he expresses a personal opinion then he's just as fallible as anyone else. I left the Church though because I don't believe in Papal infallibility, ever.
As one of your oldest Muslim audience members, I kept avoiding any religious video you uploaded because I mainly subscribed for historical content. Despite that, for some reason, I watched this video, and I have to say that I totally agree with you (not having any intention to offend the pope, of course). I also enjoyed it. It was informative and added to my knowledge of a different religion than mine and how the situation is analysed through the scope of Christians. The most important sentence you said in this video is that we should focus on what we have in common rather than faking our ideologies to please others, which is very similar to a piece lf wisdom we have in our religion, and if we're civil enough and willing then we could discuss about our differences. Being honest about your belief is not offensive to me at all. Rather, lying about it is so. And I hope no Christian gets offended by my humble feedback to the video... Peace and blessings to you all 🙏
Real. I won’t be offended if you say I’m wrong, because I will blatantly as a converting catholic will say your wrong. People don’t need to be babied and make religious pluralism something for world peace. We can have inter religious discussion and always be respectful, but I will personally never say that all religions lead to God because they don’t. I hope many prayers for the pope will grant us Gods mercy and the pope stops making silly comments.
As a Christian, I'm not offended and love to hear their points of view or even learn about other's beliefs if they are done in a respectful manner which you have done. For this, I thank you and send you much love.
I have a question for you if you would answer. Would it be acceptable for a muslim to criticize a religious authority for his interpretation of your religion ?
Metatron, I wanted to say, im a relatively new subscriber. I do so love your talks on religion. Intellectual and insightful voices are DESPERATELY needed in the Body of Christ. I truly appreciate your concise and accurate descriptions and analysis. Thank you
@@OLBarbok are you asking if I'm a bot? Sorry to disappoint you, but no. 32yo mother and Christian with the Holy Spirit who appreciates intellect combined with the wisdom of God
Hello Metatron I am Eastern Orthodox so of course I am going to agree with your critique of The Pope here. I love your content and seeing this video has made me very happy.
I can't go through all the comments to see if anybody else mentioned this, but the problem wasn't with the live translation shown here. The Vatican put out a different English version on its website that watered down the Pope's remarks, saying all religions "are seen as" roads to God. When people started pointing out that this was inaccurate (and not found in the Italian text or the other translations), it was quickly taken down and replaced with the correct English translation.
Very similar to those here on the outside who are overly critical of Pope Francis in this instance, even Vatican officials can be unknowledgeable of the orthodox theology. In this instance due to his lack of theological understanding the English translator editor assumed what the Pope must have said.
@@jeremias-serus No. You're dead wrong. The translator did a good job. It was the POPE, apparently, who was "unknowledgeable" about orthodox theology. The Vatican then LIED, and put out a false translation of the Pope's heretical statement, and when called out on their LIES, the Vatican retracted their false translation that shielded the Pope, and correctly translated his heresy. The Pope is a blatant heretic.
I think you are on the right track, here. Perhaps the Pope's words did not perfectly state his intended point (I think his first language is Portugues, rather than Italian). When Metatron translated the Pope's words, I understood them to mean that all religions are intended by their practitioners to be a path to God. I did not take them to be an endorsement of all religions, and certainly NOT saying all religions are equal.
@@jeremias-serus A pope who doesn't understand his own religion? I think not. He is so obviously false, a snake, very evil. Read *surah 9:29* muhammad ordered his worshipers to hunt down slaughter and enslave the Christians. And then try to explain to anyone that this is the same as Christianity. As a matter of fact, nowhere in queer'an does al Lah show any love for his creation. Nowhere. This man is evil and must be rejected.
@@stefanosbir3958 The Pope is Argentinian, so it's spanish. I interpreted it this way as well. All religions come from a human need and thirst for God, that God himself gave people, and so they are all different expressions of that search and answers to that search. I don't think that the Pope was saying that you can reach and know God with the same completion and truth in Hinduism as in Catholicism, but that Hinduism, like other religions, can also reveal certain aspects of God.
I am saying this as an observant Muslim-I completely understand where you’re coming from Metatron. We need to speak to each other across religious communities, but we always need to be clear and honest (in the most loving and respectful way) in what we believe in and what we don’t. Otherwise, our faiths become a loose set of ideas rather than a unified spiritual thought system
Religion is private, keep it in your pants. That's what I think about religions. I have mine; you have yours. Nobody knows which one is right. I don't believe God has a religion.
To 20:15 saying Hindus believe in many gods; Ive spoken to some who believe that they are aspects of one god. Not sure if its mainstream though, I believe its a sect thing
This is roughly what the majority of Hindu's believe. You may call them "monist" or something of the sort. They aren't true polytheists, or at least true polytheism is a very small minority.
To my understanding from what I was told by a Hindu friend and I may be remembering this wrong as it was years ago, that there is the Brahmin which is the ultimate head god which was more akin to the vibrations of creation. From the vibration of creation the other gods formed, each being an aspect of the creator. So to worship one god would be to worship one aspect of the high god whilst worshiping the high god at the same time.
I know its not what it means, but that phrasing makes me imagine jesus standing in front of heavens gate like a sumo wrestler and you have to beat him in combat to earn your way in 😂😂😂😂
The pope is visiting Belgium at this very moment. The visit is a bit controversial. The last times when the pope visited (80s and 90s) it was very different. Belgium was still much more Catholic and the pope was very popular. Nowadays secularization has gone a long way and many people don't really care about religion anymore. Moreover the sexual abuse scandals have rocked the Church in the last two decades. The pope isn't here for that, but the topic has been dominating every moment. The pope adressed the topic after our pm made a rather direct speech towards the Catholic Church and the poor way they handled the matter until now. The pope made a rather good speech about the topic (depends on who you ask. Some people thought it was good, others were dissattisfied). Afterwards he spoke two hours with some of the victims. Most of these people said they were happy with the conversation and the pope's willingness to listen. They still aren't happy with how our ocal Church handled it all so far and they want the pope to deal with that. Personally I think sexual abuse has been (and still probably is) everywhere in our society. In schools, sport clubs, churchs (and other religious places), care institutions etc. The Church isn't alone, but they have done a very poor job in dealing with it. The Church needs to be open and have a zero tolerance policy. No more cover ups. I hope the pope understands this. Right now the reputation of his Church is terrible. Even if people would feel a call to become priest, they might not make the decision, because priests are very commonly generalized as p***s (you know what I mean, just censored myself for google). That's not great. By the way the pope also has been speaking in Italian over here. That's nice. I would prefer Latin, but I understand why Italian is being used today. :)
I live in Belgium, but I grew up outside of Boston. When my husband said he was coming to Brussels, I said...well YT would ban my comment if I wrote it. I remember Francis praying over the pig Bernard Law's coffin. Now only did JP II not defrock Law or send him to a monastery to live in obscurity, he gave him sanctuary in the Vatican and elevated him. Francis gave him a warm send off. But Francis keeps saying "whoops, sorry about that!" Sorry they got caught.
Daneels was the main member of the Sankt Gallen Mafia (as he himself termed it) that got Francis elected as pope. You wonder why there was sexual abuse and cover-ups? Look at who is supportive of whom. You wonder why there is a massive drop in believing Catholics in Belgium? Look at the Mass that was introduced at the start of the mass exodus from the pews.
Belgian here, can confirm the event is "interesting". Polls showed that nearly half of the Flemish population don't really care about him coming over and a sizeable portion (I've heard figures of up to 20%) are openly annoyed by him coming. We have major radio stations openly joking and mocking him and television news reporters who are openly amazed that he still managed to draw such a sizeable crowd, and the crowd was in no way packed and very international. Not to mention that the royal family already criticized him for his support for one of our kings refusing to sign the abortion bill, calls from the catholic university leaders to allow women into higher roles in the church and the whole kerfuffle regarding the song composed by a priest with loose hands.
As a pagan this discussion raises several issues for me. First, I want people to be honest about what they actually believe so that I can know and respect them for who they really are. Second, to my Christian and Muslim friends, I want you to know that when you tell me the teachings of your religions in order to convert me I fully understand that to be an act of love, caring, and charity on your part. Please continue to share your faith with me and pray for my salvation. Third, It is not lost on me that when the Catholic church had the power to do so it freely chose to do everything possible to abolish all other religions in the lands it controlled. In this context, I find it enormously disrespectful for a pontiff of that church to claim that all religions are a path to God, now that that power has waned.
I pray that the light of truth be revealed to you, that Christ died for your sins so that you needn't perish but will come to repentance and salvation. The world is sliding increasingly into evil and irrationality, so being tied imperatively to the light of God and the reality of truth isn't for the weak of heart. This is a time of testing for humanity, but this spiritual battle will end with God's light and truth triumphant.
I don't know, considering the history of reform of the church I don't think the change in opinion from the times of the papal states is necessarily hypocritical or disrespectful. Although it is definitely funny how liberalism has shaped the catholic church after it tried to (mostly) repress it for a long time. I have to disagree on praying for salvation as another pagan.
Brother, I would always encourage you to do your own research. If you have an interest in pure monotheism you should read the Quran. Pure monotheism meaning one absolute God, without any limits or start. Assalamu alaikum
@@El_DeenThe Trinity is monotheism. Allah doesn’t have even know what the trinity is showing his ignorance. He believes it’s the Father, Jesus, and Mary. If he is the true all knowing God, he wouldn’t make such an ignorant comment. Islam makes claims about Jesus that aren’t true historically. Also who was Allah praying to when he prayed for Muhammad. Islam is a joke, no wonder the Jews and Christians rejected Muhammad without second thought.
@@LeoJackson98popes were always heretics pagans and this is why catholicsm was never Christian but a beast power from revelation,i literally have documents after 16th century and laudato si or other documents prove my point
No worries. The Church has survived good and bad shepherds. The Church has survived heresies. The church has survived devisions and schisms…We’ll be alright.
@@fij715 yuuup. It isn’t our job to defend him. Yes we must stand with him, but even a son is supposed to correct a father if he isn’t following Christ b
@@KanyeWestLyricalGenius It’s not our job to defend him. The pope is a servant of God just as you and he is not higher or lower than we are. He is equal. And this servant isn’t doing his job.
It's islam u have to try and survive and unfortunately none of the mass number of heathens in country are concerned for churches or christ for that matter....Christianity will be outlawed in the west very soon
Here is the actual Greek from John 14:6: λέγει αὐτῷ Ἰησοῦς· ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ὁδὸς καὶ ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ἡ ζωή· οὐδεὶς ἔρχεται πρὸς τὸν πατέρα εἰ μὴ δι’ ἐμοῦ. Metatron provides an accurate translation
@@CMA418 Greek was a very common secondary language at the time. Some apostles were sent to Greece so it’s assumed at least they spoke Greek if not all of them
However, the Church has always maintained that those who never knew Christ in this life might still be saved by Him if they follow their conscience. In this context, those Pope’s comments are not “wrong”. They are just incomplete and potentially misleading.
Indeed! He did actually scare me when he said that he's not a big fan of Paul, I hope he was refering to not being a fan of the person rather than doubting wether his letters should be canon or not, which would be wildly heretical, but I'm sure he did not mean that
@@Matdrox He probably meant long hair on men. He has long hair for a man and Paul spoke against that. Something about long hair on a man being a shame but on a woman it's her glory according to Paul. I grew up Baptist so I understand the importance of Paul's letters (compared to the Anglican Church) but I do feel we Christians take Paul more seriously than Jesus. Likely because he wrote the most in the New Testament. The gospels get overlooked if it's not being a Good Samaritan or compassionate to your "neighbor" or Jesus' death, burial and resurrection.
Just found your channel. I like the content. very interesting and wide range of topics. @13:40 you talk about being true to yourself and accepting the same from whomever you are talking to. I love it.
I'm a Catholic, not a rad trad, or sedevacantist or something just regular Catholic. Yes we need to be honest about what he said. We don't have to have a knee jerk reaction, but knee jerk denialism isn't going to work either.
This is the pope that thinks gay marriage is okay, and that trans identity is valid. He's also a student of Paulo Frieri, the famous socialist. So it seems that the Pope is an anti-traditionalist marxist, which is extremely heretical.
@@qwizzler you have to ask that question? John 3:13-17 [13]No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. [14]As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; [15]so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. [16]"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. [17]For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. John 14:6 [6]Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. And let's not forget this... Exodus 20:2-6 [2]"I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. [3]"You shall have no other gods before Me. [4]"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. [5]You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, [6]but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. NO OTHER GODS....
I find the statements made by the Pope deeply troubling, firstly because he is compromising the identity of Christ which is something he should not do as a Christian, and secondly because of his leadership role. As a leader I feel he will give others a false impression of Christianity and also lead Christians into false doctrines. Some branches of the church emphasize examining the teachings of pastors and leaders to see if they are scriptural, but I have found that in other branches of the church there is a strong emphasis on putting blind trust in earthly authorities. So, for the ones who have been taught to trust what the Pope says without question, it becomes very easy for people to be led astray. I am a Christian and I believe God will hold the Pope accountable for his words (James 3:1).
"for the ones who have been taught to trust what the Pope says without question ..." This is not what the Catholic Church teaches about the Pope. Words uttered in just any public appearance are not considered infallible. They teach that he is a fallible man, in every regard, except that under specific circumstances: when he speaks "ex cathedra" (from the chair, or from the authority of his office) and when addressing matters of faith and morals, ... he does speak infallibly. Such statements are generally issued in writing, and carefully reviewed, before they are issued. Note: I, myself do not believe even this, but I think it is important that we accurately represent something when we intend to contradict.
As a Christian and a translator, I loved this video, and totally agree with you on the fact that the Pope missed a wonderful opportunity there to speak about Christ. You also mentioned you’re not a big fan of Paul. I would be very interested to hear your views on the subject, as I have points of contention myself. Thank you for all your insights!!!
As a Christian you don’t get to be “not a fan of Paul”. If you’re a Christian, then Paul’s letters are scripture. If you don’t think Paul’s letters are scripture, then calling the Pope a heretic is pretty rich. But I’ll give Metatron the benefit of the doubt and assume that his remarks are incomplete, and that he’s not actually a heretic. …You know, the same courtesy that others should probably extend to the Pope :-) In orthodox Christian theology, the Pope’s remarks aren’t wrong, as the Church has long taught that those who don’t have the opportunity to know Christ might still be saved by him. His comments here are just incomplete. Perhap’s Metatron’s comments are incomplete as well. “Paul’s letters are scripture, but I have trouble understanding and applying them and don’t spend much time studying them” is not heretical. “I don’t like what Paul writes, so I discredit his letters as scripture” IS heretical.
Same, I also have conflicting opinions about Paul's letters, and even more with how seriously some people take what I find to be Paul's personal views or opinions. I would also love to see more videos of metatron speaking about Christianity, maybe he could even make a separate channel 🤔. I'm also a Christian, raised in catholic tradition that kinda left catolicism for not agreeing with a lot of stuff.
@@JustinColletti I disagree, you sure can be a Christian and not agree with Paul. You're just not a mainstream, or maybe even not a Nicene christian. But if you believe in the single God creator (the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, about whom Jesus preached) and that Jesus was the messiah and saviour then you are a christian. Edit: You will always be an heretic or and infidel if you disagree with someone else, but thats how religion works.
Love you brought this up. I think his statement is very problematic. (I am Catholic, and not a fan of the current Pope, for any context that gives) The Catholic Church has long taught 2 things- 1) All religions contain SOME truth and 2) Only the Catholic Church teaches and contains the FULLNESS of truth. I believe that this position is fully in accord with John 14:6. If he had even said that all religions could "teach about God", that would even be fine. The issue is if you are looking for the "path to God"... yeah, Christians pretty much have to believe that is only through Christianity.
@@newsavefile Because Jesus never ordered any such thing as a New Testament to be written down and compiled : because that New Testament came about as the result of a heretic-chasing party, not of a quest for truth at the time Christianity passed from subversive mystery cult to state ideology intent on continuing the Roman Empire even after it would lose its means to provide a functional political city to its denizens. That doesn't mean I am against Saint Paul : it is still better to read Saint Paul every day than the tabloid press as someone put it : he is just not at the Gospels' level. Jesus never denied the truth of the religion he inherited of, he just understood its commands as liberating and objective ones, not as regimenting, tribal and sectarian : he opened his religious heritage onto the trans-religious world. Saint Paul just after having denied the Jewish heritage as obsolete founded practically in the same sentence a regimentation system even far heavier, and terrorizing. I just don't like it in the way I don't like certain branches of science (I for one am not a fan of set theory : I rather like more traditional approaches of math) that are by no means false nevertheless.
@@newsavefileIm not a fan of trump, im still voting for him. Im not a fan of the way Isaiah writes because its hard to understand, but that does not mean I ignore his teachings or see him as lesser than other people who wrote in the bible. I'm not a fan of JK Rowling but I still love the Harry Potter books.
I'd take issue with the idea that saying "My religion is real, yours is not" leads to destruction. The idea that the only way to disagree on what is true and what is false is to destroy society... that is a very childish view of conflicting ideals. People can argue very passionately and still be civil and respectful to one another. Jesus said "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." Religions are not all the same. You will have enemies. But you should love them anyways, and treat them kindly.
Unfortunately modern culture today seems to largely misunderstand tolerance with acceptance...like, they think if you're tolerant of someone that it means you need to agree and accept who they are as a person, and if you don't then you're automatically a bigot. But, tolerance simply means to be able to understand that people are different and that you're not going to judge them for it personally...it does NOT mean that you need to accept them for who they are and like what they are doing. Tolerance is about respect, and people who are different than each other can show respect while also not compromising on their beliefs. It's a shame that many don't seem to understand this and get irate if you don't 100% accept them
@@ChristoffRevanI don’t think it is correct to say that tolerance means understanding people are different but you won’t judge them for it. Tolerance implies that one has made a negative judgement of the thing. We do not tolerate things we like, but things we do not. We do not tolerate goods, only evils.
This is completely against scripture. Jesus said the way to the father was through him, not whatever other path you choose. This pope, the supposed vicar of Christ, is anathema to what it is to be a Christian.
what of those who are unfortunate to be born into a different church or religion but are essentially good people? I think he is suggesting to be open minded of other faiths and religions. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing that we have such an open minded Pope, at least he is fostering these sorts of discussions
As a catholic, I thank you for this great translation break down! I had held out small hope that it was a mistake of the translator... But I cant say Im surprised to learn it was likely intended.
I was also hoping the same. Edit: didn’t finish watching. He’s denominationally agnostic. He said his fam is of course but he doesn’t consider himself as such. Questionable comments about the KJV being his favorite and him not being a fan of Paul (oddly).
@@AthanaSus he has a video on his channel on whether he is religious or not. I haven't watch it yet so I can't give you an answer but you should give it a watch! Sorry for not linking it friend youtube deletes my comment anytime I post links
@@kidus_1010yeah, you don’t really get to call the Pope a heretic if you don’t think Paul’s letters are scripture. Kind of the pot calling the kettle black.
@LordSleven So, then the question is, if the Pope isn't Christian anymore (if he ever actually was), then are his ex cathedra statements still infallible to Catholics?
I think what the Pope actually meant by this statement is "all religions are DESIGNED TO BE a path to God". After all, he DIDN'T say that they are ALL TRUE PATHS to God, and I strongly believe that he should clarify this!
exactly, I don't see any contrevarsy in what he said. He is literally stating a fact. Any religious person (at least from the Abrahamic religions) are trying to be on the path to God (from their perspective). So the pope didn't really say anything wrong.
20:00 As a practicing and informed Hindu, I must say, you're wrong here. There are mainly two words or concepts that may be understood by the word "God" in Hinduism: Deva and Īshvara. Devas are the typical pantheon of gods that westerners are usually familiar with. Īshvara is the One, all knowing, all controlling, etc. deity, which comes close to the upper case God of the western religions. All of the different sects/denominations of Hinduism believe in these two concepts simultaneously. All of them. The differences between the denominations is largely which of the Devas they see as being the supreme Īshvara, and what is the relationship of the individual souls with them. And the sects may not even be mutually exclusive. A devotee of Vishnu may even genuinely believe that for some people Shiva may be the way to Ishvara. And that ultimately, they are not different. This is not some post-colonial reconciliation. This idea has existed right since the Rgveda. I'm not at all saying that Hinduism is compatible with Christianity, Islam or Judaism. It's not. But what I am saying is that the idea of one God is neither foreign nor offensive to Hindus.
It only appears in the most recent additions to the Rig Veda. Later Vedic thinkers flirted with ideas akin to monotheism, but the original Vedic culture was solidly polytheistic. Hinduism is strongly influenced by the people who were influenced by those who created the Upanishads. The first three sections of the Rig Veda have less barring on Hinduism today than the non-Vedic religions present in India before hand
@@SputnikRX The most "recent" additions to the Rgveda are still older than other present day established religion.. So, it's anyway pointless to try to split ends there to understand Hinduism as it is. Rgveda Samhita is mostly a collection ecstatic poetry, with hymns that are to be used in a largely ritualistic context. And ritual worship, even today, are performed in an individual-deity-at-a-time way. The formless "Brahman" is never ritually worshipped, even by staunch Advaitists even today. Rg-Samhita is not a book that clearly states its theology because that is not its subject. Therefore, for the most part, ideas can only be inferred. Still, the idea of "one God" isn't just an Upanishadic concept. It exists right in the Rgveda Samhita itself not just in the form of universalizing concept of Rta, Amrta, the divine fire, henotheistic praises etc. but also more directly as ekam sad viprah bahudha vadanti, indro mayabhih pururupa iyate, Purusha evadam sarvam, Brahman etc. exist in Rgveda Samhita itself. No need to go to the Upanishads. One can even see deity names and attributes combining, merging and being used interchangeably within the Rgveda, seemingly illogically for a solidly polytheistic system. In popular imagination the deities may be distinct persons, but to the Rshis, they seem to be like principles of a whole. There is nothing "solidly" anything about it. The Upanishads expand on these already pre-exisiting concepts in the form of dialogue. Upanishads are a continuation of the Mantrabrahmana, even part of it as seen in Taittiriya, or Ishavasya-Upanishad which comes within Vajasaneyi Samhita of Shukla Yajurveda. Upanishads are not at all some breakaway or revolution as many modern people like to imagine for their own fantasies. One just needs to see the text for what it is without projecting an imagined story onto it. The idea of one God would in no way be offensive even the the Rgvedic Rshis. The idea of on exclusive form/name would be. The idea of exclusive polytheism and exclusive monotheism is itself bunk in case of Hinduism right from the Rgveda.
@@kshatrapavan My memory on the story is hazy, but in reference to the (Devahs?) being parts of a whole doesn't the story of Shiva drinking the poison of the snake allude towards that idea? It's been a long time since I read this, though, so I'm quite foggy on the names.
Theologically everything. Paul took the teachings of Jesus as a Jewish revivalist preacher and turned them into another Heathen mystery cult about a death defying demigod with magic powers.
The Pope is "internally right" because, since Vatican II, the Catholic Church teaches that people who don't believe in Jesus can still go to heaven. Catechism 841 CLEARLY states that Muslims and other theists are part of the plan of salvation, while 843 claims all religions are a search for God like Francis stated. For me this makes no sense, Buddhism and Taoism are NOT theistic.
During my lessons in mariology (yes it's a class in theological studies) my professor (a Catholic friar) stated that Buddhism is an interesting search for the sacred and for everything related to God without asking themselves if God exists. In short in Buddhism it's implicit that there's a primary force and that they want to fuse with it (nirvana) they have an agnostic approach, they ask every question but the fundamental one "who created everything?" "How did anything start?" Buddhism is not atheistic, it's sadly uninterested in the existence of God while at the same time believing in everything related to it, so it participates unknowingly. Taoism is in the same ballpark.
@@luisr5577 You are correct and liraachievement1346 is incorrect. Buddhism, is not theistic. Karma is action and consequence, in this life and the next. if you drop a plate and it smashes, that isn't the divine will. If you act in an enlightened way and move up to a better life, that is not divine will. it is merely the consequenses of action and thought. No God is placed as an interconector. The Tathaggata was clear that he represented no God nor prepared the way for another's coming. It sounds nice to include everybody else but really it is just Christians Christianising my faith, (and others), in order to feel more comfortable. You don't end up coming to the table as an equal, you come under their criteria. "All that we are is a result of what we have thought". Twins.1.
Do not strawman Vatican II though. It's very often misunderstood. It doesn't teach that other religions can bring you to God. This is very important yet subtle. It teaches that people who have never had the chance of knowing Jesus because they either never heard of him or were presented with Jesus improperly COULD theoretically and occasionally be saved because God can DECIDE to work in different ways than the usual because HE KNOWS what people would have accepted him if they had the chance, so these people still deserve to be saved. And this is super important because it defends Christianity from the core arguments of the ''new'' atheists aka antitheists
@@iraachievement1346, I have to disagree with what you've related here. Obviously I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you as it seems you're just relaying these comments. Buddhism and Taoism are a search for something other than God. When they're not merely looking for internal truths, they're opening themselves up to a universal aspect which, because it's not necessarily tied to the triune God, can bring in demonic influences. When you open yourself up completely, which is a very common meditative goal, the sins on the earth and portals to hell around you are just waiting for you to breathe them in. When someone who is not even Christian does an open meditation it's like standing outside on a cloudy day without a raincoat - it may rain. When a Catholic or Christian, someone who has a proper baptism, does an open meditation it's like running through a thunderstorm without a raincoat on.
I would love to hear a historical take on the Canon of Scripture and Early Christian beliefs as you are typically unbiased with your research and I enjoy your style of presentation.
@metatronyt 23:36 can you explain by your statement that you're "not a huge fan of Paul"? I don't understand. If you're a Christian, Paul's letters are a core part of Christian theology in the Bible, containing such rich trinitarian dogma, salvific theology, & how a Christian lifestyle should be, etc. etc. I'm confused by this statement, as Paul is an apostle of Jesus if you believe in the Bible and Apostolic tradition.
"in this case I agree with Paul" is a highly questionable statement. St Paul is an Apostle and his epistles are scripture; they're not for lay Christians to agree or disagree with, any more than the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are.
Lutheran here. our whole schitck is that we're about as close to being Catholic as you can get without being Catholic specifically because the Catholic church was doing some shady shit so we branched off. It's not like it changes your core values to disagree with a pope that was human elected.
Not according to Pope Leo XIII. _Similarly, it is to give proof of a submission which is far from sincere to set up some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them;_ Epistola tua, June 17, 1885
@@SoldierDrew I was reading through comments and was just going to bring this up (great minds, etc). According to the pope's infallibility, he could declare all gods of all religions are the same and it would be doctrine. I guess.
Thou shall not make idol does not equal thou shall not make images. Is the idolization and/or worship of images that’s prohibited. The angel of God described images to be made for the Ark of the Covenant, for the Temple in Jerusalem and even had them mount a snake on a pole to be looked at for healing. Making a golden calf or statue of Zeus to worship is different than an image that reminds us of something good like a crucifix or having a picture of grandma, may she rest in peace. Thanks for all your content!
Speaking of you being Italian, I would LOVE to hear your story on life in Italy. Why you ended up moving away....would you go back? What do you think of the recent uptick in expats moving there? etc...I'm American but LOVE Italy and the Italian people. Warmest most welcoming souls I have ever encountered. I lived there briefly and would move there permanently in a heartbeat. Not sure how they would feel having a Protestant Christian family in their midst though! Lol! 🤣
im old and was raised Italian Catholic. although I left that faith a long time ago(I'm a Buddhist now for decades), this pope is... well very different then the ones I have known in my life... it frankly seems to me that the higher ups of the church have been coopted like so many institutions in the west. The " all religions are on the same road" thing is a modern hippie western stupidity, even Buddhist peoples don't see things in this way and Buddhism and it's goals are very different in many ways compared to say Christianity and it's goals, with one basic huge difference is that Buddhism does not concern itself with a creator god. Btw for the Hindus, there really is only one creator god, Brahma, and the whole purpose of the religion is to become reunited with him. The rest are beings that come from that creator. The Hindu cosmology is just filled with more types of beings than angels and demons etc because there are more realms then the physical realm, heaven/hell/purgatory. With all that said, that doesn't mean religions should not have interfaith dialogue and find common ground for the benefit of humanity. Come together on what is in common, and respect the differences.
Very good post Left Judaism became agnostic/atheist but still have an interest in spirituality. I wonder what sect of Buddhism you joined, because many have quite varied creeds and traditions I worry I might me too much of a hedonist to become a full blown Buddhist, but meditation and mindfulness is something I’m really interested in. At least the religions still have people who push back, it’s seems really hard to find/humanist/atheist/agnostic groups that have not been infected by modern wokeism, at the same time I’m not a religious traditionalist, it’s lonley
As a fellow Buddhist I agree, I believe the "all religions are a path to God" phrase can truly only apply to Abrahamic religions or at most religions with a tri-omni creator deity. That said, the phrase itself is very presumptive to begin with and doesn't add to much to meaningful discourse.
As a Catholic I'll say this we should NEVER apologize for saying our religion is correct. It doesn't matter if it may sound rude, or arrogant. That's our Faith, pope. Stand by the courage of your conviction, and don't try to bend the knee to the woke mob with a universalist patheonic messge.
You are arguably dishonoring God's infinite creation by putting up doctrinal walls. God shaped us in His own image, gave us free will, and now we resort to safety mode and are little obedient robots. God did not create various religions to teach us to be afraid of them, but to learn the true nature of God.
I mean it's the truth, historically it all goes back to Star and nature worship. The original YHVH is a Volcano at Sinai. And I can get you Jewish scholarship sources. Just like us Jews never conquered the Canaanites we ARE THE CANAANITES! Look up the Kosher Altar of incense and you will find a Horned Altar they would smear blood on the Bull Horns 😂 Yisera'el is the ancient Canaanite word for Saturn for Christ sakes. Man made systems to figure out the great mystery of God or the Goddess
As a muslim and a fan of you metatron, I agree with you, that as a Christian believing in jesus as god is not optional, just as believing in Allah and his prophets and attributes is not optional for a muslim; and that by believing in one religion you disbelieve in all others. After all, the idea that all religions lead to god is nonsense, as a lot of religions either contradict each other or go against each other, or don't believe in the existence of god but in the existence of an afterlife, maybe reincarnation, some believe in multiple gods and some in one god. If I was on stage, I would have said I believe in Allah and Allah only, just as you metatron would have said i believe in jesus and the Trinity only, you can't have a Christian muslim or a hindu Christian as that wouldn't logically make sense. And if the pope said it because he didn't want to offend people then: 1st-changing your beliefs based on people's feeling shows either stupidity or insecurity in belief, a disastrous thought for a pope. 2nd-this can only be considered Offensive on a very shallow level, as looking into the logic behind the statement then you wouldn't be a Christian or a muslim or a hindu or any other religion, let alone the leader of an important sect, because how can you follow this religion as the truth if you believe it's not the only way, why even believe then? Why worry about offending people when the logic behind everyone's belief is that it's the only truth and that i must follow it, why would I, a muslim, find this Offensive when I operate on the same principle? Why would anyone really? (Please excuse the length of the comment, i just felt that i had a lot to say)
I appreciate your lengthy comment. We need to be bold in our beliefs in order to allow challenge so that the truth can win out. For the betterment of mankind.
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If you listen to Catholics talk to Muslims they frequently make these weak statements. It's sad, and 100% a pluralist heresy, but anyway, there's reasons why the reformations happened and why schisms happened many many centuries ago. Pray for him, that's all anyone can do.
The Pope didn’t say HE does not believe Christ is the only way to God. He’s the biggest Christian in the world, I sure hope he does believe that. I mean, that’s a given. Or he’s the biggest hypocrite in the world as well. For true Christians, Christ is the only way to God. Christ himself IS God in human form. For Christians. That wasn’t the topic for the Pope in that setting, or so it seemed to me. I see his speech as a reaching out to others of different religions that don’t view Christ as God. So to them, why would Christ be the only way. They have their own ways. From my POV religion is universally about connecting with God, in living by the principles of one’s faith to reach that goal. Pope Francis is the most inclusive Pope I’ve ever heard speak. He’s the OG of inclusivity, daring to reach across every barrier. The inherently exclusionary beliefs of the Church was such a problem for me growing up Catholic. It seemed I was being told believing in Christ & even being Catholic was the only way to get to heaven. I just couldn’t bear that I wasn’t going to see my non-Catholic friends there, maybe not even my Mom cuz she didn’t go to mass & take communion, like ever.
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@@Seeker09-er3sc Look up the Pluralist and universalist heresies
@@Seeker09-er3scanyone who rejects Jesus Christ calls the curse upon himself. But we don't know what anyone undergoes as he is dying. It may be that Jesus appears to him, and he recognizes the truth and repents and is saved. We just don't know.
As a croatian, i used to do business with italians, importing goods from factories and stuff. Everytime i called the factory, i had to wait on the line while they go find the one person who spoke any english. (keep in mind it's a factory with 700 workers). The person came to the phone and i could barely understand a word she said, that's how good her english was. What i wanted to say is that considering you're italian, I applaud your english, sir! :D Also, thank you for another great video.
There is a doctor named Bart Ehrman who has done extensive research for a long time on how Paul destroyed Christianity and the Bible. But I don't know if that's what this is about.
Daniel, Bart erhman on Paul wouldn’t be worth much. Paul didn’t destroy the Bible, if anyone attacks Paul they are the ones trying to twist Christianity as Paul is a very central figure
Paul turned a Jewish revival movement into another heathen pagan mystery cult complete with a death defying demigod with magic powers. He even dared to claim out of secret knowledge that made it so all the old Jewish practices and morality were hard to get right out the window so pagans could continue to do as they pleased.
As an agnostic I disagree with the pope as well. I'm at 7:30 only, but what he said there doesn't seem right: There are religions who believe in more than one deity - whose properties and significance might be very different from the Christian god - and there are religions who have no deity at all. So really you can't say that all religions are just different paths towards god. Yes Judaism, Islam and Christianity are similar in that sense, because they're closely related, but you can't say the same thing for all religions.
We can argue about the definition of religion, I could agree it's Western when we look at Judaism, Christianity and the last religion: Islam. But they are no different from the ancient traditions of the world in the sense that they are all based on revelation, and they all teach about something higher than life which can be known and attained - this is why I disagree with agnosticism. Regardless of worldview though, probably we agree that such scenes with the Pope are nothing but political. Such discussions have hardly anything to do with understanding religious dogmas or questions. Recently, there was a much more horrendous scene which made it clear that all they want is to drag the discussion into the mud. They can do that because the Church always speaks out of a defensive position, unfortunately.
@@magyarbondi I'm not sure all religions are based on revelation. There is no revelation in the ancient polytheistic Greek religion or in Hinduism. Buddhism doesn't even have a deity, it's closer to a philosophy. Its religious properties are due to its belief in reincarnation which is supernatural therefore outside of philosophy.
A short note to my differentiating between "path to reach" and "path to arrive": A path to REACH God is looking from the subjective side. I can set out to reach ... the moon, but that does not mean I am going to accomplish that. A path to ARRIVE at God is a subtle tick more objective: That means I at least assume that completing the intended journey is possible on this route. Or is Italian different on this point? // Another great video. Thanks much.
@@JohnGarofano-s5j Wrong again. And it is you who are insulting the Greeks and the Hindus by thinking that they "worship statues." I DID NOT say Catholics worship statues. I said the Greeks DID NOT worship statues any more than Catholics do. Catholics do not worship statues. The Greeks ALSO did not worship statues. And likewise, the Hindus also do not worship statues. In ALL of those cases, the Catholics, the Greeks, and the Hindus, the statues are only symbols that represent the divine power that is being worshiped.
Hi Metatron I see you're a devout Catholic Christian who is faithful. With that I believe you should revisit Paul's statements. I know you've made a statement that you don't agree with what he teaches, but Paul's letters have been sorely misunderstood by many Christians. Though they may be harsh and are the source of many debates, Paul ultimately speaks of making Christ the center. I hope you revisit them, with a Bible Study leader to help you
Bergoglio’s parents moved to Argentina from Italy in the early 20th century. He would know Italian as it is spoken there, and give the Argentinean accent as the cherry on top. Great video, BTW. I just subscribed.
Hinduism is a huge umbrella that is even bigger the term abrahamic. There are a ton of opposing theologies and philosophies inside it. One fairly big one is that there really is only one god, the rest are just to help explain a concept that is unexplainable
Hinduism isn't even a monotheistic religion, it's impossible to say it's worse than other false religions because christ is the only path and way (many denominations on that road of course), but its very very far from God.
@@MssAKI1992 yes, go and study their scriptures and philosophical arguments they have been having for 4,000+ years or just ask the people what they actually believe. The only thing that come up for that word is Sudanese’s music
@@Beastlango then why are you talking about something you are not even willing to research? even a little bit. sad. my apologes, its spelled Yantra.and go deeper then first google result you get. like you did first time typing it
Commenting based entirely on the title, I've been waiting for someone like you to lay into Pope Francis online and I have great confidence that I shall be leaving a like on this video.
I’m Catholic and I don’t agree with the pope on this. But I also understand why he is saying it. As a former neopagan I would never imagined I’d one day think of becoming Christian, let alone Catholic. But it was only the kind Christians who would allow me to talk about God with them that helped me see I truly needed and wanted Christ. So I get why he’s saying it, but I also don’t fully respect it. It’s complicated but hope this makes sense.
It's important to speak to people and show God's love to all people, but you don't do that by saying things that contradict God's word. I am so happy that you have come to know Jesus, i often pray for neo-pagans, I don't know why but it has been in my heart to pray for their salvation. What the Pope is saying is deceit, it has a form of truth, but it is heresy. There is only One truth, and there is only one way to the Father, there is only one salvation. The pope is saying that all religions lead to God, he is putting Jesus on the same level as hindu gods, and pagan gods, and demons. As a Christian i will of course talk to people who don't believe like me, but we should never contradict the truth in order to appeal to others, which is what the pope is doing, it is dangerous to conflate talking to people, and validating their beliefs, i have talked to many people about their beliefs, but it is done from a place of me knowing the truth, if i dont know the truth, than i cannot share the truth with others. he is not saying we should just listen to each other, he is elevating false religions to the level of Jesus, which is completely and unequivocally unacceptable. I would have absolutely talked to you when you were a neopagan, I would've absolutely heard what you have to say, and I would never have shamed you or condemned you. Still, my purpose would be to show you the truth, not just entertain conversation for the sake of fostering religious "inclusivity" What the Pope said is a doctrine of demons, and it should be taken as a sign and a warning that the Pope is not speaking Gods word or the truth, we are told to discern the spirits, and if there is a spirit that speaks a word that contradicts the Lord than that spirit is not from him.
We must consider context & audience. These were Inter religious youth engaging in dialogue, trying to find common ground. As Catholics we look at whether the or not the Pope is speaking on doctrinal matters. As these were off the cuff remarks to youth of various religions we can most assuredly say they were non-doctrinal. In that case, one should maintain a positive attitude toward non-doctrinal statements found in Church documents (or speeches), but-precisely because they are not statements of doctrine (authoritative teaching)-they do not require intellectual assent. One thus should give them serious and favorable consideration, knowing that God is guiding the pastors of the Church, but the nature of these statements ultimately does not require you to agree with them. Audience & context matter. The Pope in his visit to Belgium the last few days had published his Apostolic address. This address spelled out his beliefs. In it he made it clear that Jesus Christ alone is the only way to God.
I was originally subscribed to you for years now and it has been awesome to see you grow over that time. I think it's awesome that you are also sharing your faith as well as helping to keep historically accurate experts across the world, to actually be historical and accurate. Much love and many blessings to you and yours noble one!
@@MrMustang13But we have to remember that the Church is led by fallible humans. God is infallible. The Church will never be perfect, but it should always aim to be.
Firstly, Deus. Secondly, God is of course infinitely more important than a pope... But then again, Church was established by Jesus himself; it doesn't mean of course that every action or declaration of every priest is God's will...
And if you read the Church from the First Millenium, the Pope, Filoque, papacy and Vatican everyting was just power grab that caused the great skism. Becuse a Bishop (First Pope) though he knew better then others.
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Great video man, I saw this a couple days ago, and figured they would come out and try to do PR for this. He in Catholic law, being a Jesuit, shouldn't be a pope, in any way, but it's 2024 and rules and traditions are going bye bye. I read Revelations, so this is not surprising to me lol. Great vid, glad you clarified this and showed Bless God Studios, I started watching them not to long ago. You saying, I shouldn't have to clarify obvious things these days should be a motto. I get it, people misquote, will put words you say in your mouth, that you never said, then a crowd that saw that clip will never hear the full context and for years on end, claim things that were never spoken. It's a crazy, dark world these days, but it is leading to it's conclusion in my view.
As a Christian I agree with the Pope because God is Love, so Christ is Love, so what means that Christ is the only way, is that Love is the only way!! and any person from any religion can live with love!
Great video, exactly my thoughts as soon as I read about what the Pope said. Btw, I'm curious as to why you are not a fan of Paul? Or have you already made a video regarding that?
Metatron i my opinion Pope make a political statement saying that "religion is the effort of Humans to rich the Divine" If he speak as a priest of a dogma he is going to say something different "That the only way to reach Divine is ONLY through Jesus Christ" and for me he make huge mistake
I do disagree with Pope Francis on many issues and was shocked by quite a few of his deeds in the past but - and hear me out before you pick up your stones - it's important to differentiate here on which part one can and should agree and where not. Let's make perfectly clear that Christ was crystal clear in his statement: "Nobody comes to the father but through me". Not all paths lead to God, they simply don't and it can be observed with our own eyes. What Pope Francis could mean is that all religions aim to find God. That would be an accurate statement and a foundation for fruitful conversation. EDIT: Pope Francis is doing himself a disservice by not clarifying it. The Catechism is clear: In every religion there is a spark of truth, but only Christ's Church offers the fulness of truth. We should not bicker in aggression like many do, but acknowledge the common goal: Finding God - finding truth. I'd love the Vatican to clarify, but then again Pope Francis seldomly explains himself appropriately. Sowing confusion is not noble, that should be clear and as such should be remedied, but I also do not want to accuse him of things he might not have intended.
@@fij715 Vigano clearly stated he does not submit to the Pope and the Magistrum, as such he declared himself a sedevacantist which results in Latae Sententiae - automatic excommunication. The Vatican merely made it known that he had excommunicated himself.
Not a Christian, but a native Italian speaker with a fair command of Ancient Greek. Everything Metatron says about the Pope's original statements and about that Greek passage from the Gospels is spot on. My only minor and inconsequential quibble is that I prefer the official interpreter's translation of "figli di Dio" as "sons and daughters of God" to Metatron's "children of God" because "children" in English can mean both "sons and daughters" and "young human beings below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority", but Italian has two separate words for those two : "figli" and "bambini" respectively, so the Pope definitely meant "sons and daughters".
I'm protestant and I love your channel, thank you for talking about this subject. And I agree with everything you said, the formulation was clumsy. And it reminds me a lot of Mormons and other protestant religions which used this type of narrative to promote their prophets over Jesus.
I might be a protestant myself, but John 14:6 is also the way I justify what I call Biblical christianity being fundamentally different to every other religion, in christianity it's all about the grace of God, in any other religion or life philosophy, you yourself have to contribute to your salvation/enlightenment, there it's mostly about what you do, not about what Jesus has already done for you and what He now wants to freely give you, if you accept Him. Saying all religions are the same is about the most unchristian and unbiblical thing one can say, not going to elaborate further on that...
@Vidhur Don't you realize you put yourself in a moral dilemma How can I do good deeds and fast a whole month every year and praise from day to night not having grace of God while someone who never do a good in his life have it isn't more like racism more than grace
@Vidhur In Islam the way to reach salvation is through mercy of God Prophet Mohammad PBUH said : " There is none whose deeds alone would entitle him to get into Paradise. It was said to him: And, Allah's Messenger, not even you? Thereupon, he said: Not even I, but that my Lord wraps me in Mercy " muslim 2816 . But the difference is the way to deserve mercy . In Islam to have mercy is how are you merciful to other and that more justice than what you preach . Because in Islam Allah will judge according intention which he is the only one knows no priest or pope which means taking in account the individual differences : The blind will not judge as who can see because obviously the work is hard for the blind. The poor will not judge as the rich and ill will not judge as well all be judged according to their intentions
@@Mu3az523 It's not about doing good, wanting to do good comes natural from accepting God, as by accepting Him you accept his Word and thus His Commandments, you will want to follow them and serve your fellow man, but going to heaven is solely mercy won through Jesus' sacrifice on Golgotha. On the other side, it was even possible for one of the criminals beside Jesus on other crosses, in the eleventh hour of his life one of the two looked to Jesus and asked if he could be with Him in paradise, and Jesus told him he would. This doesn't mean that you can just sin all your life and use grace as an excuse, you have to repent, but as long as there's life, grace and mercy can be given to you, freely... It's not up to us to judge whether this is a "moral dilemma", since we're all sinners, we're all clay and we don't tell the Ceramist (with a capital C) that we deserve better (Romans 9), we can only ask for mercy...
@Vidhur Why you are making lies about my religion ask any Muslim will tell you works will be judged by Iman ( faith on God) not by the outer appearance of the work
The papistry has always been corrupted. No one man can be the HEAD of the church. The head of the church is Christ, the pope is a man and is a sinner he is not infallible. The twisting and bastardizing of the gospel shows this, Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. I do not respect an organization that sits in lavish palaces of gold while the needy starve. I’m glad many of my brothers and sisters in faith are realizing that the Catholic Church is a false church. Even the name they call themselves “Catholic” meaning whole or complete is a statement driven by ego. All you have to do is look at the history. The Catholic Church are just like the Pharisees of the new testament they twist Gods word. The Catholic Church is ridden with corruption and occultism. Rome never truly left its pagan roots behind.
@@alohi79 He is absolutely correct. there is a difference in spoken and written word interpreters and translators. My son is both and the process is different. He is fun at parties
Just to set the expectation, I was born and raised as a protestant, I've read Bible (both old testament and new testament) and studied to become a priest, but for almost 20 years now I've been a neo-pagan (Asatru). You saying that words of Pope must be discarded in favor of Bible, I agree. Bible is *the* holy book for Christians and in christianity, and anything that goes against or contradicts it what is laid down in the Bible cannot be followed in its stead. Well done video, but yours always are.
You can have Buddhism without Buddha, you can have Islam without Muhammad, but, if you take Christ out of Christian all you are left with is the letters I.A.N. and Ian cannot help you.
You can't have Islam without Muhammad because shahada or first pillar of the faith is : I believe with heart and say with words that there is only one God and that Muhammad is His slave and His Messenger. So without shahada you are not Muslim.
@nerminsnowhuseinbasic9340 but conceivably, the teachings could exist without him. Also, Islam is the world's most obvious false religion so I don't really give it the time of day...
I should’ve guessed that Metatron was a Christian but I just didn’t assume. Now that I know he’s the third RUclipsr that I watch regularly that’s a Christian. Which may not seem like a lot but it’s nice to get representation
Keep in mind, he's not Catholic but non-denominational. Just wanted to put that out there for clarification, no hidden meaning or agenda meant by this statement...simply, I saw some others try to claim he was Catholic but he isn't.
If anyone understands the actual history of early Christianity and how Jesus of the gospels is so different from the Jesus we get through church, it’s because of Paul just coming along and making up a ton of crap from the existing Helenistic heathens of the time to attract more people.
So interesting when u translated the Pope’s words. U let us make our own judgments . I am such a fan of all your content . I am love to learn new facts from your videos. Keep up the great work u do !!
Might be because Paul's letters are admittedly a big source of where most of our most confusing and arguably controversial doctrines came from. While he has contributed greatly to the faith, admittedly some of his letters have been twisted in ways that they become stumbling blocks for fellow Christians in various ways. Like people who use Paul's words to justify sexism, slavery, and other things. As a Christian, I myself tend to look at parts of the New Testament and ask God "what were you thinking with this?" Primarily because I don't understand the purpose of certain verses due to how they've been misused for a long time. We can try to blow off those who have misused scripture, but in order to truly counter them we must understand what the scripture actually says, or else we end up accidentally making the Bible look fallible by not adressing any criticisms or errors raised.
@@tempestvenator9809 I'm of the opinion that God is big enough to look after himself and His word, the Bible, is exactly how he wants it. He is sovereign. In control.
You are not a Christian if you don't accept Paul entirely, homosexuality is big sin ,women should be quiet in Church and cover up ,I am glad that I am Orthodox Christian WOMAN and I respect Paul entirely@@tempestvenator9809
Hmm... Should someone tell Santa Claus (aka St. Nicholas) about this? Slapping the pope for heresy was his thing, wasn't it? Or was that a different saint? Edit: good slapper, wrong slapee. Thanks for correction.
He didn’t slap the pope, he allegedly slapped the heretic Arius, who was a bishop.
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American English teacher here. (I mean I am American, not that I teach American English. Damn...) You have a great accent when you speak English. You have a standard English accent. I use some of your videos with my English students!
As most of the world is not Catholic (or Christian for that matter), most people would disagree with the Pope anyway. Add in Internal Catholic disagreements with the Pope, and yeah it's pretty certain that the majority disagrees with him.
@@daMillenialTrucker It's more like ~1/4th now. Either way although it is quite a lot of people, both statistics are less than 51% which would be the majority of the world.
Sometimes the Pope is spot on. Sometimes I wonder if the Pope just speaks without considering if his words are backed up by scripture and church traditions.
As a Christian I agree with the Pope because God is Love, so Christ is Love, so what means that Christ is the only way, is that Love is the only way!! and any person from any religion can live with love!
@@MomeGnome True love, yes, self sacrifice. Living while trying to make life a bit better for others, with empathy, obviously caring for yourself as well, your family. And being grateful for being alive and loving God for it.
So this pope who is proclaimed to be from the " direct line of successors that goes back to Saint Peter " doesnt even know about the First and most important commandment? which is: You should not have other gods beside me. Good luck Catholics.
Gude Metatron, your video is much appriciated. Very honest and important take on the situation. I also liked how you made it like a broader discussion while using their video. This is like the community interactions we had and lost on youtube, so thank you for interconnecting those things. Btw, I think there is a difference between offspring/creation of God and the term children of God. You made it clear that people already disagreed and you may not see this or wont reply, thats all fine. Just there is this difference I find in John 1,12+13 "12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (NKJV) I'm not a Greek expert, so I have to try and search and understand the translation differences. My unprofessional find is a difference of vocabualry in the Greek: John 1,12 uses τέκνα θεοῦ (tekna theou) "children of god" while Acts 17,28&29 uses γένος (genos) with a different grammar structure to connect Θεοῦ (theou) with the "offspring ... of/from God". Theological speaking, through my bias, it would lead to the conclusion, that all mankind is made in the image of God, to become children of God through relationship, which is an adoption by God through faith. This we can see in unison with Paul in Galatians 3,26+27 even though he uses here the term υἱοὶ (huioi) "sons" -> θεοῦ (theou) of God "26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ." (NKJV) q.e.d. Best regards, even if we agree to disagree.
The pope also recently came out and said Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation. The problem is everyone is trying to make the pope say one thing when he’s being vague and ignore the concise thing he says that contradicts the popular misconception. He’s literally the most lied about, misunderstood, and mischaracterized person in the world. In Acts 17.22 St Paul addresses the athenians, praises them for their spirituality, and informs them the unknown god they worship is the same god that he worships, they just dont know him. People walk with God their entire lives and religions are different paths of that walk. Not all of them lead to salvation but all are an effort or a path to god in our lifetime.
If they dont lead to salvation, they *are not paths to God*. The Pope is only infallible ex Cathedra, this statement was not ex Cathedra, so he was very much fallible in this circumstance.
@@dorugoramon0518 I know that and agree that this isnt dogma but i agree with the teaching but lets look at scripture and then a logical modern example….. take acts 17. Paul doesnt admonish the athenians for worshipping a false god. Instead he praises them for their spirituality and then informs them the god they worship is the same god that Paul himself worships. In this way, the athenians were closer to god than if they worshipped nothing at all. Now for a modern example: lets look at an atheist who spends his life on the net being a troll. He comes up against a smart muslim who convinces him the truth of islam. He stops being a troll, prays, stops sinning, tries to live a good life according to the Quran. Would you not say that person is closer to god than he was before? Is final salvation the only time that we encounter god? What about all the years of our lives of struggling, the religions of the world are an attempt at reaching and pleasing god. The pope also said that Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation…. I just dont see what everyone’s problem is. Recently a protestant friend of mine tried to say youre either a proper christian or you worship a demon. I dont see how that fits with scripture, traditon, or common sense. We live in a polarized world and everyone is a polemic. I think its refreshing to see the pope looking for common ground. No wonder he has soooooo much opposition.
The idea that religion is a “path to God” is indeed a traditional understanding. The word “religion” comes from the Latin “religare,” meaning to bind or reconnect, implying that religion helps reconnect humanity with the divine. Pope Francis, for instance, often speaks of respecting other faiths, but it’s important to distinguish between acknowledging the sincerity of others’ beliefs and saying all paths are equally true. The Catholic Church maintains that Jesus is the fullness of truth, but it also recognizes elements of truth in other faiths. The pope’s comments could be seen as promoting dialogue and respect without diluting the central claims of Christianity.
You’re exactly right! These were young people from different religions. 🤦♀️ Like right off the Pope’s gonna tell them they’re damned because they don’t believe in Jesus? Of course not! You love them first.
Thanks for the translation comments. It’s great to have a native Italian speaker with your background making this video. And I agree with your position.
Yeah unfortunately the current pope has lost the respect of even his catholic followers, he’s just innovated and deviated WAY to much from the actual Christian tradition
A bit of context, the Pope was in Singapore 2 weeks back. This was a dialogue with our youth on interreligious. The Pope was responding to the questions posted by different student representative of their religious faith. These students are from one of our higher education institutions. The below is the whole vid of the event hosted at the higher education institute. ruclips.net/user/liveJv_KQigjqYM?si=H9R7MiS9lfbbFQkr
I believe the Pope is speaking in a more general sense here. He’s not saying that you can make it into heaven by means of different religions. I believe that what the Pope is describing here is that all religions are methods by which us , imperfect humans try and extend our hands upward and ascertain God. Not that they all will lead us to salvation
I needed to scroll too far for this comment. I agree that Pope was probably speaking about something slightly different. Also my question is... Can atheist or any-other-that-christian-ist get to Heaven?
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Metatron on Religion, YES ✅ oh wow totally didn’t expect you to react to us.
Hello, I think you should invite Metatron to be an extra in The Chosen with you my friend.
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You disagree with the Pope? Welcome to Catholicism!
This made me giggle
It's ok, he can just ask himself for forgiveness after all the awful stuff he does.
@@headstrikerop4093 yeah I was quite perplexed by his comment saying “I’m not a huge fan of Paul”
@antoviamonte3429 most churches will never mention this but, Paul was called by the original church on the charges of apostasy. Read the Essene Gospel of Peace and you'll understand why more and more Christians are rejecting Paul and returning to only the teachings of Jesus.
@GunFuiChi as a new beliver once I heard this I was instantly drawn to it as truth. Jesus is the way he said it himself. I belive the disconnect most have with the Christ based religion is the idea all you have to do is ask for forgiveness but not change. Jesus said you must repent and walk the middle path a part from the world. The false gospel gives people lies about their sin nature. You can sin as we all are made of flesh. But you must always honestly try to live a righteous life and treat others with love and respect.
If I had a nickel for every time an Italian disagreed with the Pope I would have enough to pay off my (American) student loans.
Well... i don't think it's an Italian thing... it's universalisme... which is not align with Cristianity in general... i am Greek by the way... and Orthodox Cristian... and i agree with what he is saying100%.
@@sofiastefanidou9230 Learn grammar and spelling.
All based on pure ignorance. Those same people do not even know anything about what their pope says and what Catholicism teaches. nowadays people "learn" false facts from social media and those , like this one are all fakes.
best comment here :)))
@@sofiastefanidou9230 what do you mean with « it is universalisme which is not a Christian thing? “
Relax, I'm Orthodox Christian, we've been disagreeing with the Pope for around 1000 years now
The roman empire turned into a church............
Wouldn't you be Orthodox Catholic?
@@titanayrum Orthodox Catholic or more commonly known as Eastern Orthodox Church.
@@petarrakic5265 the other half of the Catholic Church after the Great Schism.
You can't disagree with the office of the pope.
That means you're disagreeing with a decision and action of Jesus Himself when he established the church.
(Did I mention you're also disagreeing with 7 church councils that all the Ortho bishops recognized and signed is on the perpetual supremacy of the pope?)
Catholic here 👋 big fan (so is my brother btw).
It really upsets me when Pope Francis says crap like this, off-the-cuff heretical statements. He also recently said "The Gospel of Jesus Christ alone is the source of life for mankind," so these statements seem to be contradictory. I don't think he thinks his words through before he speaks. And he seems to be a horrible theologian.
I appreciate you candor and translation. Glory be to Jesus Christ our King. Hope you come back to Rome one day, brother 🙏
As a Christian I agree with the Pope because God is Love, so Christ is Love, so what means that Christ is the only way, is that Love is the only way!!
and any person from any religion can live with love!
He'll probably visit the capital of his country again, no worries.
@@MarceloSeravalli Every religion does NOT lead to god. ONLY the TRUE Christ does.
Yea I'm not Catholic, or religious at all, but he's entitled to have his own views as a person, but as the Pope, his duty is to uphold the beliefs of the church. If he can't do that, then he shouldn't be the Pope.
@@MarceloSeravalliYour position on this is neither Christian nor scriptural and misses completely and misinterprets the central message of Christianity.
As a Christian you had my interest, as a catholic, you have my attention
Wow good for you…you sound like a little kid. “You like the colour blue, so I’m on your team”.
Just listen to what he has to say first and then deduce if it’s worth agreeing with.
@@Jaanikinshuh?
@@Jaanikins he is making a django unchained reference
@Jaanikins What are you babbling about? He didn't say he was on his team, he only said he had his "interest and attention".
Get help @@Jaanikins
I'm Jewish but i cringe when people dilute or compromise the beliefs of their religion to please others. We can be completely honest with eachother and still love and respect eachother.
I agree 100%
Religious diversity is as vital to human existence as cultural diversity. This current Pope serves an agenda (the 2030 Agenda) that wants to extinguish human diversity and create a generic religion and a generic global culture. They even want to extinguish racial differences (The Kalergi Plan).
We should celebrate our differences as much as we celebrate what we have in common. Variety is the spice of life.
I agree. Honesty and respect.
As a Jew how do you feel about Miriam Adelson and Bill Ackman donating massive amounts of money to Donald Trump while the State of Israel is baiting Iran into a war? Consider that America fought the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, and intervened in Libya and Syria on Israel's behalf (see the Clean Break Memo). If you're not Orthodox, how do you feel about George Soros and Mike Bloomberg donating massive amounts of money to Kamala Harris to flood the country with immigrants? Consider that America will become majority minority by 2045.
Muhammed jihading would like to haveva word with you. As an ex muslim, religious wars and religious oppression in Islamic countries is a severe problem. You can't even leave Islam in progressive Muslim countries like Indonesia.
As a religious Jew, how do you feel about Miriam Adelson and Bill Ackman donating millions to Donald Trump so he will defend Israel from Iran, just how the US defended Israel from Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, etc, by invading them.
Metatron: "I disagree with the Pope"
Protestants: "First time?"
haha yeah absolutely. sola escriptura, sola fide, sola gratia, solus Christus, soli Deo gloria.
Lol so true! 😂
I am a Catholic and I am frequently very confused by Pope Francis. Pope-splainers are working overtime but I don't see how this can possibly fall within Catholicism at all.
Truth, I went through RCIA. And this isn't the first time he's gone against the very thing they taught.
As a protastant I don't really have much of an issue with Catholics (aside from the prot bashing so many do, plus the consistent infighting between them and the Orthodox) but yea this was in fact pope Francis speaking heresy.
Not saying that as a insult.
This is because his wisdom transcends dogma. Listen to the man. He is a real christian.
Because not everything in non Christian religions is evil. The Pope is speaking very broadly here and not in a formal theological context, and even the way he introduced the context is as opposed to combative arguing.
@@spiffygonzales5160 oddly, I never really see bashing, except from the usual online speakers. And there's quite a bunch so you're not inaccurate. It's that 80/20 rule again--everyone else is just the classic "born catholic" and is too busy with family and work
[... i mean yeah eternal salvation is THE thing but Jimmy's still waiting at Daycare and College tuition spiked yet again.]
He’s made a very dangerous statement- “all religions are the same” is something the young are apt to say before abandoning religion.
All religions are the same fundamentally
I know this to be true. This was exactly what I thought in the years leading up to me becoming an atheist. I am an atheist no longer. But you are right. It's an incredibly dangerous statement for the Pope of all people to make.
It's not first and won't be his last dangerous comment.
Yeah its my mindset when im atheis, if all religion is the same either all of them is true or all of them is false, ergo most people will say all religions is false
Are bad Christians better than good non Christians? Who is more favorable to God?
As a Roman Catholic from Poland, I strongly agree with you, not Pope, in this case. Jesus is THE way, there is no other.
I agree as a Roman Catholic.
@@Asamur I'm not even religious at all, and it's offensive to me how people keep trying to reinterpret Christianity. As an individual, you can have any opinion you want about LGBT and all that, but as the Pope, you're supposed to represent the views of the church, as stated in the Bible. If you don't agree with those views, then don't be Catholic, and for God's sake don't be the Pope.
100% nie wiem w co gra ten papież ale jedno jest pewne, jego nauczanie nie jest katolickie, powoli już nawet nie chrześcijańskie....
Paczamama to był kamień milowy....
According to Christianity, Muslims, Buddhists etc are going to burn for Eternity no matter if they were a good person or not. Not very Moral.
Amen amen, a catholic from jordan here, God bless❤
“No one comes to the Father except through me” Pretty clear 🤷🏻♂️
The pope disagree with this, the same way that he agrees with this *Riyad as-Salihin 158* Muhammad said, that he is the one who will judge who enters into heaven. So, the pope agrees with muslims that muhammad is god.
To me, outside context, it means he is the one who will judge you. _How_ he will judge you depends on context outside that line.
@@AnotherDuck
No, it means exactly what it says! Belief in the trinity; “Father, Son & Holy Spirit” - or no redemption.
@@newblackdog7827 It doesn't say, "Belief in the trinity." It says, "Through me."
@@AnotherDuck
Same same! “Father, Son & Holy Spirit”
Remember when "is the Pope Catholic?" was rhetorical? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Funny enough, he's more Catholic than most devout Catholics. Every single Catholic priest I've heard speak of Islam has said nothing but nice things and how its close to christianity and is the same god that they worship.
I don't know what Catholic priests you've met, but they clearly sound like older liberal ones.
Th god of Islam could not be more different than the god of Christianity
@@marktodd3097 Hyperbole but you have a point. The God of Islam supports the right to self defense. Jesus opposes it and says turn the other cheek, do not resist evil, forgive everyone no matter what or your Father wont forgive you.
@@valleyshrew No it’s not hyperbole and it’s not my opinion. The Quran goes into great detail about the attributes of Allah and its very different, in fact the opposite of what Jesus says.
The Pope stated heresy when he denied that Christ is the only way to the Father.
According to Roman Catholic doctrine, the Pope is infallible so a devout Catholic must confess the Pope's infallibility.
@SoldierDrew Only when speaking "Ex Cathedra" is a Papal pronouncement considered infallible. What he did in this situation is express his personal opinion and it is not binding on Catholics.
🎶Maybe now the pope will bow and kiss my ring, I wanna be king!!🎶 Soundgarden
@@SoldierDrew I mean... this is a large part of WHY I often say that I personally see the existence of the office of Pope as an act of heresy in and of itself. As I'm sure you've guess, I'm Christian, but I'm not Catholic. I see Catholicism as a poster child for what Christ warned his followers about with the parable about wolves in sheep's clothing. Sure, the rank-and-file devotees might be sincere in their beliefs, but they're being lead by a corrupt institution. The wolves are watching the flock.
@@SoldierDrew Not so. he can only claim infallibility when issuing a Papal decree or "Bull". If he expresses a personal opinion then he's just as fallible as anyone else.
I left the Church though because I don't believe in Papal infallibility, ever.
As one of your oldest Muslim audience members, I kept avoiding any religious video you uploaded because I mainly subscribed for historical content. Despite that, for some reason, I watched this video, and I have to say that I totally agree with you (not having any intention to offend the pope, of course). I also enjoyed it. It was informative and added to my knowledge of a different religion than mine and how the situation is analysed through the scope of Christians.
The most important sentence you said in this video is that we should focus on what we have in common rather than faking our ideologies to please others, which is very similar to a piece lf wisdom we have in our religion, and if we're civil enough and willing then we could discuss about our differences. Being honest about your belief is not offensive to me at all. Rather, lying about it is so. And I hope no Christian gets offended by my humble feedback to the video...
Peace and blessings to you all 🙏
Real. I won’t be offended if you say I’m wrong, because I will blatantly as a converting catholic will say your wrong.
People don’t need to be babied and make religious pluralism something for world peace. We can have inter religious discussion and always be respectful, but I will personally never say that all religions lead to God because they don’t. I hope many prayers for the pope will grant us Gods mercy and the pope stops making silly comments.
As a Christian, I'm not offended and love to hear their points of view or even learn about other's beliefs if they are done in a respectful manner which you have done. For this, I thank you and send you much love.
Aren't muslims faking their ideologies so other will be not be scared with Islam through taqiyya?
I have a question for you if you would answer. Would it be acceptable for a muslim to criticize a religious authority for his interpretation of your religion ?
We have to be ablen to give criticism can islam Handel that? ....no
Metatron, I wanted to say, im a relatively new subscriber. I do so love your talks on religion. Intellectual and insightful voices are DESPERATELY needed in the Body of Christ. I truly appreciate your concise and accurate descriptions and analysis. Thank you
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@@OLBarbok are you asking if I'm a bot? Sorry to disappoint you, but no. 32yo mother and Christian with the Holy Spirit who appreciates intellect combined with the wisdom of God
@@marty8722 you said Megatron not Metatron. Megatron is from transformers
@A_itsar my phone mustve auto corrected. I've fixed it now. My bad :)
@@marty8722 happens to the best of us
Hello Metatron I am Eastern Orthodox so of course I am going to agree with your critique of The Pope here. I love your content and seeing this video has made me very happy.
I mean I grew up a Polish Catholic and came back to Catholicism, and even I agree. Although I never really cared for the pope to begin with.
@@HypnoChode74So you believe that Buddhists, Muslims etc deserve to burn for Eternity? Great Morals.
The Pope has his own opinion just like many Eastern Orthodox do not agree all the time with their patriarchs or religious leaders
I am actually wondereing why he "doesn't really like Paul"
@@marlena. Paul was the General Butt Naked of his day.
I can't go through all the comments to see if anybody else mentioned this, but the problem wasn't with the live translation shown here. The Vatican put out a different English version on its website that watered down the Pope's remarks, saying all religions "are seen as" roads to God. When people started pointing out that this was inaccurate (and not found in the Italian text or the other translations), it was quickly taken down and replaced with the correct English translation.
Very similar to those here on the outside who are overly critical of Pope Francis in this instance, even Vatican officials can be unknowledgeable of the orthodox theology. In this instance due to his lack of theological understanding the English translator editor assumed what the Pope must have said.
@@jeremias-serus No. You're dead wrong. The translator did a good job. It was the POPE, apparently, who was "unknowledgeable" about orthodox theology. The Vatican then LIED, and put out a false translation of the Pope's heretical statement, and when called out on their LIES, the Vatican retracted their false translation that shielded the Pope, and correctly translated his heresy.
The Pope is a blatant heretic.
I think you are on the right track, here. Perhaps the Pope's words did not perfectly state his intended point (I think his first language is Portugues, rather than Italian). When Metatron translated the Pope's words, I understood them to mean that all religions are intended by their practitioners to be a path to God. I did not take them to be an endorsement of all religions, and certainly NOT saying all religions are equal.
@@jeremias-serus A pope who doesn't understand his own religion? I think not. He is so obviously false, a snake, very evil. Read *surah 9:29* muhammad ordered his worshipers to hunt down slaughter and enslave the Christians. And then try to explain to anyone that this is the same as Christianity. As a matter of fact, nowhere in queer'an does al Lah show any love for his creation. Nowhere. This man is evil and must be rejected.
@@stefanosbir3958 The Pope is Argentinian, so it's spanish. I interpreted it this way as well. All religions come from a human need and thirst for God, that God himself gave people, and so they are all different expressions of that search and answers to that search. I don't think that the Pope was saying that you can reach and know God with the same completion and truth in Hinduism as in Catholicism, but that Hinduism, like other religions, can also reveal certain aspects of God.
I am saying this as an observant Muslim-I completely understand where you’re coming from Metatron. We need to speak to each other across religious communities, but we always need to be clear and honest (in the most loving and respectful way) in what we believe in and what we don’t. Otherwise, our faiths become a loose set of ideas rather than a unified spiritual thought system
YES!
This exactly.
Inshalla
You do realise that according to Christians all Muslims, Buddhists etc will burn for Eternity. How is respectful?
How Can you do that with a religion that allows lying to gain power ?
Religion is private, keep it in your pants. That's what I think about religions. I have mine; you have yours. Nobody knows which one is right. I don't believe God has a religion.
To 20:15 saying Hindus believe in many gods; Ive spoken to some who believe that they are aspects of one god. Not sure if its mainstream though, I believe its a sect thing
There is more than one god. And we don't need religion to say that.
@@melodymcminn4107 I am curious, what is the non-religious definition of a god in this case?
This is roughly what the majority of Hindu's believe. You may call them "monist" or something of the sort. They aren't true polytheists, or at least true polytheism is a very small minority.
@@melodymcminn4107How do you know it... There s ONLY one sun in nature. We don't have MANY suns.
To my understanding from what I was told by a Hindu friend and I may be remembering this wrong as it was years ago, that there is the Brahmin which is the ultimate head god which was more akin to the vibrations of creation. From the vibration of creation the other gods formed, each being an aspect of the creator. So to worship one god would be to worship one aspect of the high god whilst worshiping the high god at the same time.
I'd like you to expand on what you said at 23:35. "I'm not a big fan of Paul", what do you mean by that?
I know its not what it means, but that phrasing makes me imagine jesus standing in front of heavens gate like a sumo wrestler and you have to beat him in combat to earn your way in 😂😂😂😂
You aren't no one, Metatron. You are an amazing academic and an extremely well-spoken man. Not to mention you are an absolutely lovely human being.
I agree with you . But, I recognize the value of what he said .Tαπεινωση
This isn't helping him, though. He has assumed great responsibility while claiming he is nothing.
@@Dowlphin bruh he is an influencer. Chill
@@nostalji93 Influenza gives the chills, indeed. But we need the warmth of the heart.
@@Dowlphin what i meant is that he might just humbles himself as orthodox do. "i am nothing" In Greek, this is called ταπεινωση. He is not prideful.
The pope is visiting Belgium at this very moment. The visit is a bit controversial. The last times when the pope visited (80s and 90s) it was very different. Belgium was still much more Catholic and the pope was very popular.
Nowadays secularization has gone a long way and many people don't really care about religion anymore. Moreover the sexual abuse scandals have rocked the Church in the last two decades. The pope isn't here for that, but the topic has been dominating every moment. The pope adressed the topic after our pm made a rather direct speech towards the Catholic Church and the poor way they handled the matter until now. The pope made a rather good speech about the topic (depends on who you ask. Some people thought it was good, others were dissattisfied). Afterwards he spoke two hours with some of the victims. Most of these people said they were happy with the conversation and the pope's willingness to listen. They still aren't happy with how our ocal Church handled it all so far and they want the pope to deal with that.
Personally I think sexual abuse has been (and still probably is) everywhere in our society. In schools, sport clubs, churchs (and other religious places), care institutions etc. The Church isn't alone, but they have done a very poor job in dealing with it. The Church needs to be open and have a zero tolerance policy. No more cover ups.
I hope the pope understands this. Right now the reputation of his Church is terrible. Even if people would feel a call to become priest, they might not make the decision, because priests are very commonly generalized as p***s (you know what I mean, just censored myself for google). That's not great.
By the way the pope also has been speaking in Italian over here. That's nice. I would prefer Latin, but I understand why Italian is being used today. :)
I live in Belgium, but I grew up outside of Boston. When my husband said he was coming to Brussels, I said...well YT would ban my comment if I wrote it. I remember Francis praying over the pig Bernard Law's coffin. Now only did JP II not defrock Law or send him to a monastery to live in obscurity, he gave him sanctuary in the Vatican and elevated him. Francis gave him a warm send off. But Francis keeps saying "whoops, sorry about that!" Sorry they got caught.
@@benu_bird Who's that?
I'd return the inquisition to deal with abusers tbh
Daneels was the main member of the Sankt Gallen Mafia (as he himself termed it) that got Francis elected as pope. You wonder why there was sexual abuse and cover-ups? Look at who is supportive of whom. You wonder why there is a massive drop in believing Catholics in Belgium? Look at the Mass that was introduced at the start of the mass exodus from the pews.
Belgian here, can confirm the event is "interesting". Polls showed that nearly half of the Flemish population don't really care about him coming over and a sizeable portion (I've heard figures of up to 20%) are openly annoyed by him coming. We have major radio stations openly joking and mocking him and television news reporters who are openly amazed that he still managed to draw such a sizeable crowd, and the crowd was in no way packed and very international. Not to mention that the royal family already criticized him for his support for one of our kings refusing to sign the abortion bill, calls from the catholic university leaders to allow women into higher roles in the church and the whole kerfuffle regarding the song composed by a priest with loose hands.
As a pagan this discussion raises several issues for me.
First, I want people to be honest about what they actually believe so that I can know and respect them for who they really are.
Second, to my Christian and Muslim friends, I want you to know that when you tell me the teachings of your religions in order to convert me I fully understand that to be an act of love, caring, and charity on your part. Please continue to share your faith with me and pray for my salvation.
Third, It is not lost on me that when the Catholic church had the power to do so it freely chose to do everything possible to abolish all other religions in the lands it controlled. In this context, I find it enormously disrespectful for a pontiff of that church to claim that all religions are a path to God, now that that power has waned.
I pray that the light of truth be revealed to you, that Christ died for your sins so that you needn't perish but will come to repentance and salvation. The world is sliding increasingly into evil and irrationality, so being tied imperatively to the light of God and the reality of truth isn't for the weak of heart. This is a time of testing for humanity, but this spiritual battle will end with God's light and truth triumphant.
I don't know, considering the history of reform of the church I don't think the change in opinion from the times of the papal states is necessarily hypocritical or disrespectful. Although it is definitely funny how liberalism has shaped the catholic church after it tried to (mostly) repress it for a long time.
I have to disagree on praying for salvation as another pagan.
Brother, I would always encourage you to do your own research. If you have an interest in pure monotheism you should read the Quran. Pure monotheism meaning one absolute God, without any limits or start. Assalamu alaikum
@@El_DeenThe Trinity is monotheism. Allah doesn’t have even know what the trinity is showing his ignorance. He believes it’s the Father, Jesus, and Mary. If he is the true all knowing God, he wouldn’t make such an ignorant comment. Islam makes claims about Jesus that aren’t true historically. Also who was Allah praying to when he prayed for Muhammad. Islam is a joke, no wonder the Jews and Christians rejected Muhammad without second thought.
@@LeoJackson98popes were always heretics pagans and this is why catholicsm was never Christian but a beast power from revelation,i literally have documents after 16th century and laudato si or other documents prove my point
No worries. The Church has survived good and bad shepherds. The Church has survived heresies. The church has survived devisions and schisms…We’ll be alright.
It’s not about the church surviving, it’s about the pope saying things inherently unchristian. Blatantly incorrect
Okay but people need to stop gaslighting people that call him out for being a bad pope.
@@fij715 yuuup. It isn’t our job to defend him. Yes we must stand with him, but even a son is supposed to correct a father if he isn’t following Christ b
@@KanyeWestLyricalGenius It’s not our job to defend him. The pope is a servant of God just as you and he is not higher or lower than we are. He is equal. And this servant isn’t doing his job.
It's islam u have to try and survive and unfortunately none of the mass number of heathens in country are concerned for churches or christ for that matter....Christianity will be outlawed in the west very soon
Here is the actual Greek from John 14:6:
λέγει αὐτῷ Ἰησοῦς· ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ὁδὸς καὶ ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ἡ ζωή· οὐδεὶς ἔρχεται πρὸς τὸν πατέρα εἰ μὴ δι’ ἐμοῦ.
Metatron provides an accurate translation
Thank you my friend.
@@metatronyt Here, have a 🍪. 😉
Did Jesus speak Greek? Am I misinformed that he spoke Aramaic?
@@CMA418 Greek was a very common secondary language at the time. Some apostles were sent to Greece so it’s assumed at least they spoke Greek if not all of them
However, the Church has always maintained that those who never knew Christ in this life might still be saved by Him if they follow their conscience.
In this context, those Pope’s comments are not “wrong”. They are just incomplete and potentially misleading.
Please, PLEASE, make a video on your thoughts on Paul and why! Would be so interesting to hear your reasoning
Indeed! He did actually scare me when he said that he's not a big fan of Paul, I hope he was refering to not being a fan of the person rather than doubting wether his letters should be canon or not, which would be wildly heretical, but I'm sure he did not mean that
He mentioned under another comment that he doesn't like Paul's rule on long hair on men. @@alessandrozanzarella9203
He's a Christian guys I'm sure he didn't mean in it in a heretical way..
@@Matdrox He probably meant long hair on men. He has long hair for a man and Paul spoke against that. Something about long hair on a man being a shame but on a woman it's her glory according to Paul.
I grew up Baptist so I understand the importance of Paul's letters (compared to the Anglican Church) but I do feel we Christians take Paul more seriously than Jesus. Likely because he wrote the most in the New Testament. The gospels get overlooked if it's not being a Good Samaritan or compassionate to your "neighbor" or Jesus' death, burial and resurrection.
Just found your channel. I like the content. very interesting and wide range of topics. @13:40 you talk about being true to yourself and accepting the same from whomever you are talking to. I love it.
I'm a Catholic, not a rad trad, or sedevacantist or something just regular Catholic. Yes we need to be honest about what he said. We don't have to have a knee jerk reaction, but knee jerk denialism isn't going to work either.
This is the pope that thinks gay marriage is okay, and that trans identity is valid.
He's also a student of Paulo Frieri, the famous socialist.
So it seems that the Pope is an anti-traditionalist marxist, which is extremely heretical.
When the pope TOTALLY disagrees with the direct words of JESUS, the SON OF GOD, you have a problem.
@@lepterfirefall how did he disagree?
@@qwizzlerhe literally contradicted John 3:16 DIRECTLY.
@@qwizzler you have to ask that question?
John 3:13-17
[13]No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.
[14]As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
[15]so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.
[16]"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
[17]For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
John 14:6
[6]Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
And let's not forget this...
Exodus 20:2-6
[2]"I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
[3]"You shall have no other gods before Me.
[4]"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.
[5]You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,
[6]but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
NO OTHER GODS....
I find the statements made by the Pope deeply troubling, firstly because he is compromising the identity of Christ which is something he should not do as a Christian, and secondly because of his leadership role. As a leader I feel he will give others a false impression of Christianity and also lead Christians into false doctrines. Some branches of the church emphasize examining the teachings of pastors and leaders to see if they are scriptural, but I have found that in other branches of the church there is a strong emphasis on putting blind trust in earthly authorities. So, for the ones who have been taught to trust what the Pope says without question, it becomes very easy for people to be led astray. I am a Christian and I believe God will hold the Pope accountable for his words (James 3:1).
The Bible is clear we will ALL give an account for what we say and do. But it also says that the Shepherds will be held to a higher account.
This pope is a good student who can think for himself and fathom the true nature of God's creation. Others are still at war.
War is not God's way.
As a Christian I am deeply concerned about the Catholics because of the current pope. I fear he will lead them away from God.
The Catholic Institution is basically just Kiddy-Fiddler's Anonymous anyway.
"for the ones who have been taught to trust what the Pope says without question ..." This is not what the Catholic Church teaches about the Pope. Words uttered in just any public appearance are not considered infallible. They teach that he is a fallible man, in every regard, except that under specific circumstances: when he speaks "ex cathedra" (from the chair, or from the authority of his office) and when addressing matters of faith and morals, ... he does speak infallibly. Such statements are generally issued in writing, and carefully reviewed, before they are issued.
Note: I, myself do not believe even this, but I think it is important that we accurately represent something when we intend to contradict.
As a Christian and a translator, I loved this video, and totally agree with you on the fact that the Pope missed a wonderful opportunity there to speak about Christ. You also mentioned you’re not a big fan of Paul. I would be very interested to hear your views on the subject, as I have points of contention myself. Thank you for all your insights!!!
As a Christian you don’t get to be “not a fan of Paul”.
If you’re a Christian, then Paul’s letters are scripture.
If you don’t think Paul’s letters are scripture, then calling the Pope a heretic is pretty rich.
But I’ll give Metatron the benefit of the doubt and assume that his remarks are incomplete, and that he’s not actually a heretic.
…You know, the same courtesy that others should probably extend to the Pope :-)
In orthodox Christian theology, the Pope’s remarks aren’t wrong, as the Church has long taught that those who don’t have the opportunity to know Christ might still be saved by him.
His comments here are just incomplete.
Perhap’s Metatron’s comments are incomplete as well.
“Paul’s letters are scripture, but I have trouble understanding and applying them and don’t spend much time studying them” is not heretical.
“I don’t like what Paul writes, so I discredit his letters as scripture” IS heretical.
Perhaps the reason the Pope missed the opportunity to speak about Christ is because he isn't really a Christian.
Same, I also have conflicting opinions about Paul's letters, and even more with how seriously some people take what I find to be Paul's personal views or opinions.
I would also love to see more videos of metatron speaking about Christianity, maybe he could even make a separate channel 🤔. I'm also a Christian, raised in catholic tradition that kinda left catolicism for not agreeing with a lot of stuff.
@@JustinColletti I disagree, you sure can be a Christian and not agree with Paul. You're just not a mainstream, or maybe even not a Nicene christian. But if you believe in the single God creator (the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, about whom Jesus preached) and that Jesus was the messiah and saviour then you are a christian.
Edit: You will always be an heretic or and infidel if you disagree with someone else, but thats how religion works.
@@Ripplenatoror because he was speaking to inter faith community
Love you brought this up. I think his statement is very problematic. (I am Catholic, and not a fan of the current Pope, for any context that gives)
The Catholic Church has long taught 2 things- 1) All religions contain SOME truth and 2) Only the Catholic Church teaches and contains the FULLNESS of truth. I believe that this position is fully in accord with John 14:6.
If he had even said that all religions could "teach about God", that would even be fine.
The issue is if you are looking for the "path to God"... yeah, Christians pretty much have to believe that is only through Christianity.
"Im not a fan of Paul" whoah buddy you cant just drop that so casually.
But he does not mean he is against Paul neither.
@@MrMirville how can you not be a fan of the authour of the majority of the new testament?
@@newsavefile Because Jesus never ordered any such thing as a New Testament to be written down and compiled : because that New Testament came about as the result of a heretic-chasing party, not of a quest for truth at the time Christianity passed from subversive mystery cult to state ideology intent on continuing the Roman Empire even after it would lose its means to provide a functional political city to its denizens. That doesn't mean I am against Saint Paul : it is still better to read Saint Paul every day than the tabloid press as someone put it : he is just not at the Gospels' level. Jesus never denied the truth of the religion he inherited of, he just understood its commands as liberating and objective ones, not as regimenting, tribal and sectarian : he opened his religious heritage onto the trans-religious world. Saint Paul just after having denied the Jewish heritage as obsolete founded practically in the same sentence a regimentation system even far heavier, and terrorizing. I just don't like it in the way I don't like certain branches of science (I for one am not a fan of set theory : I rather like more traditional approaches of math) that are by no means false nevertheless.
As a great woman once said... "I'm not a fan of Gob."
@@newsavefileIm not a fan of trump, im still voting for him. Im not a fan of the way Isaiah writes because its hard to understand, but that does not mean I ignore his teachings or see him as lesser than other people who wrote in the bible. I'm not a fan of JK Rowling but I still love the Harry Potter books.
I'd take issue with the idea that saying "My religion is real, yours is not" leads to destruction. The idea that the only way to disagree on what is true and what is false is to destroy society... that is a very childish view of conflicting ideals. People can argue very passionately and still be civil and respectful to one another. Jesus said "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." Religions are not all the same. You will have enemies. But you should love them anyways, and treat them kindly.
Unfortunately modern culture today seems to largely misunderstand tolerance with acceptance...like, they think if you're tolerant of someone that it means you need to agree and accept who they are as a person, and if you don't then you're automatically a bigot.
But, tolerance simply means to be able to understand that people are different and that you're not going to judge them for it personally...it does NOT mean that you need to accept them for who they are and like what they are doing. Tolerance is about respect, and people who are different than each other can show respect while also not compromising on their beliefs. It's a shame that many don't seem to understand this and get irate if you don't 100% accept them
Christian Morals are incompatible with Human Unity. Do you truly believe it's moral for Buddhists, Muslims etc to burn for Eternity?
"Loving your enemies" is what has gotten us into this now mostly satanic and degenerate "modern" society.
@@ChristoffRevanI don’t think it is correct to say that tolerance means understanding people are different but you won’t judge them for it. Tolerance implies that one has made a negative judgement of the thing. We do not tolerate things we like, but things we do not. We do not tolerate goods, only evils.
I agree with you that it is a ridiculous position but even if it was correct, one cannot value peace in society over the Truth
This is completely against scripture. Jesus said the way to the father was through him, not whatever other path you choose. This pope, the supposed vicar of Christ, is anathema to what it is to be a Christian.
i bet most of what you believe goes against scripture
what of those who are unfortunate to be born into a different church or religion but are essentially good people? I think he is suggesting to be open minded of other faiths and religions. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing that we have such an open minded Pope, at least he is fostering these sorts of discussions
And you make up an interpretation of what this means to you
"and in the end of days the abomination of desolation shall stand in the holy place" depending on translation and ms orig.
@@Soapy-chan yes well I don’t hold to the doctrine of biblical innerancy
As a catholic, I thank you for this great translation break down! I had held out small hope that it was a mistake of the translator... But I cant say Im surprised to learn it was likely intended.
Thank you for this word for word translation! I am Catholic, and i was wondering if, you being Italian, are also Catholic?
I was also hoping the same. Edit: didn’t finish watching. He’s denominationally agnostic. He said his fam is of course but he doesn’t consider himself as such. Questionable comments about the KJV being his favorite and him not being a fan of Paul (oddly).
@@AthanaSus he has a video on his channel on whether he is religious or not. I haven't watch it yet so I can't give you an answer but you should give it a watch!
Sorry for not linking it friend youtube deletes my comment anytime I post links
@@LordSleven EXECUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think he's a Catholic. He has never mentioned his denomination, as far as I know, but the vibes are generally protestant :)
@@daMillenialTrucker Dang it I'm caught! Lol
He is a Jesuit.....look them up. Interesting lot...
If you are alluding to the Jesuit Oath, then I must break it to you, that document is a hoax.
Yea, He's a friend of many interesting people. 🤔
"Interesting" is a nice way to put it. Lol.
I've heard it too
The Jesuits *used* to be good, but they were infiltrated by their mortal enemies. Its a very, very deep rabbit hole.
I'm curious why you're not a fan of Paul?
I think that's a little problematic.
He probably believes heresies that Paul explicitly preaches against
@@kidus_1010yeah, you don’t really get to call the Pope a heretic if you don’t think Paul’s letters are scripture.
Kind of the pot calling the kettle black.
@@JustinColletti In this case its the pot calling the kettle black while also being correct, because what the pope said *was* heretical.
@@JustinColletti...Facts
I'd totally love a video on your thoughts on Paul since you referenced your opinion in the video.
The joke is not valid anymore. The Pope is no longer Catholic.
@@fearthehoneybadger He's barely even Christian either tbh
VaticanCatholic Channel
@LordSleven So, then the question is, if the Pope isn't Christian anymore (if he ever actually was), then are his ex cathedra statements still infallible to Catholics?
All he's done is restate teachings that are already dogmatic for Catholicism. You're just admitting Catholicism isn't Christian.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian VaticanCatholic channel has the real long answer
I think what the Pope actually meant by this statement is "all religions are DESIGNED TO BE a path to God". After all, he DIDN'T say that they are ALL TRUE PATHS to God, and I strongly believe that he should clarify this!
exactly, I don't see any contrevarsy in what he said. He is literally stating a fact. Any religious person (at least from the Abrahamic religions) are trying to be on the path to God (from their perspective). So the pope didn't really say anything wrong.
You can wish that but it's not what he said. Sure, maybe it was a mistake but he didn't bother correcting himself when it happened.
Nah. Considering all the other blasphemous things he has said in the past, he truly meant what he said here.
@@yuzan3607 yes, but he wasn't clear.
@@mongke7858 it's not what he said, but what did he mean?
It's like a theological Bohemian Grove get-together.
20:00 As a practicing and informed Hindu, I must say, you're wrong here. There are mainly two words or concepts that may be understood by the word "God" in Hinduism: Deva and Īshvara.
Devas are the typical pantheon of gods that westerners are usually familiar with. Īshvara is the One, all knowing, all controlling, etc. deity, which comes close to the upper case God of the western religions. All of the different sects/denominations of Hinduism believe in these two concepts simultaneously. All of them. The differences between the denominations is largely which of the Devas they see as being the supreme Īshvara, and what is the relationship of the individual souls with them. And the sects may not even be mutually exclusive. A devotee of Vishnu may even genuinely believe that for some people Shiva may be the way to Ishvara. And that ultimately, they are not different.
This is not some post-colonial reconciliation. This idea has existed right since the Rgveda.
I'm not at all saying that Hinduism is compatible with Christianity, Islam or Judaism. It's not. But what I am saying is that the idea of one God is neither foreign nor offensive to Hindus.
It only appears in the most recent additions to the Rig Veda. Later Vedic thinkers flirted with ideas akin to monotheism, but the original Vedic culture was solidly polytheistic. Hinduism is strongly influenced by the people who were influenced by those who created the Upanishads. The first three sections of the Rig Veda have less barring on Hinduism today than the non-Vedic religions present in India before hand
@@kshatrapavan thanks for sharing 👍🏻
@@SputnikRX that's interesting 👍🏻
@@SputnikRX The most "recent" additions to the Rgveda are still older than other present day established religion.. So, it's anyway pointless to try to split ends there to understand Hinduism as it is.
Rgveda Samhita is mostly a collection ecstatic poetry, with hymns that are to be used in a largely ritualistic context. And ritual worship, even today, are performed in an individual-deity-at-a-time way. The formless "Brahman" is never ritually worshipped, even by staunch Advaitists even today. Rg-Samhita is not a book that clearly states its theology because that is not its subject. Therefore, for the most part, ideas can only be inferred. Still, the idea of "one God" isn't just an Upanishadic concept. It exists right in the Rgveda Samhita itself not just in the form of universalizing concept of Rta, Amrta, the divine fire, henotheistic praises etc. but also more directly as ekam sad viprah bahudha vadanti, indro mayabhih pururupa iyate, Purusha evadam sarvam, Brahman etc. exist in Rgveda Samhita itself. No need to go to the Upanishads. One can even see deity names and attributes combining, merging and being used interchangeably within the Rgveda, seemingly illogically for a solidly polytheistic system. In popular imagination the deities may be distinct persons, but to the Rshis, they seem to be like principles of a whole. There is nothing "solidly" anything about it. The Upanishads expand on these already pre-exisiting concepts in the form of dialogue. Upanishads are a continuation of the Mantrabrahmana, even part of it as seen in Taittiriya, or Ishavasya-Upanishad which comes within Vajasaneyi Samhita of Shukla Yajurveda. Upanishads are not at all some breakaway or revolution as many modern people like to imagine for their own fantasies. One just needs to see the text for what it is without projecting an imagined story onto it.
The idea of one God would in no way be offensive even the the Rgvedic Rshis. The idea of on exclusive form/name would be. The idea of exclusive polytheism and exclusive monotheism is itself bunk in case of Hinduism right from the Rgveda.
@@kshatrapavan My memory on the story is hazy, but in reference to the (Devahs?) being parts of a whole doesn't the story of Shiva drinking the poison of the snake allude towards that idea? It's been a long time since I read this, though, so I'm quite foggy on the names.
0:43 missed opportunity to call it a "Lore recap Segmentata"
Wait, you're not a big fan of Paul? What do you disagree with?
i was asking myself this too
He definitely needs to make a video about this.
Theologically everything. Paul took the teachings of Jesus as a Jewish revivalist preacher and turned them into another Heathen mystery cult about a death defying demigod with magic powers.
@@Mortablunt You are clearly not Christian.
@@Mortablunt ??
The Pope is "internally right" because, since Vatican II, the Catholic Church teaches that people who don't believe in Jesus can still go to heaven. Catechism 841 CLEARLY states that Muslims and other theists are part of the plan of salvation, while 843 claims all religions are a search for God like Francis stated. For me this makes no sense, Buddhism and Taoism are NOT theistic.
During my lessons in mariology (yes it's a class in theological studies) my professor (a Catholic friar) stated that Buddhism is an interesting search for the sacred and for everything related to God without asking themselves if God exists.
In short in Buddhism it's implicit that there's a primary force and that they want to fuse with it (nirvana) they have an agnostic approach, they ask every question but the fundamental one "who created everything?" "How did anything start?"
Buddhism is not atheistic, it's sadly uninterested in the existence of God while at the same time believing in everything related to it, so it participates unknowingly.
Taoism is in the same ballpark.
@@iraachievement1346 I never said they were atheistic. I said they are not theistic, which is true.
@@luisr5577
You are correct and liraachievement1346 is incorrect. Buddhism, is not theistic. Karma is action and consequence, in this life and the next. if you drop a plate and it smashes, that isn't the divine will. If you act in an enlightened way and move up to a better life, that is not divine will. it is merely the consequenses of action and thought. No God is placed as an interconector.
The Tathaggata was clear that he represented no God nor prepared the way for another's coming. It sounds nice to include everybody else but really it is just Christians Christianising my faith, (and others), in order to feel more comfortable. You don't end up coming to the table as an equal, you come under their criteria.
"All that we are is a result of what we have thought". Twins.1.
Do not strawman Vatican II though. It's very often misunderstood. It doesn't teach that other religions can bring you to God. This is very important yet subtle. It teaches that people who have never had the chance of knowing Jesus because they either never heard of him or were presented with Jesus improperly COULD theoretically and occasionally be saved because God can DECIDE to work in different ways than the usual because HE KNOWS what people would have accepted him if they had the chance, so these people still deserve to be saved. And this is super important because it defends Christianity from the core arguments of the ''new'' atheists aka antitheists
@@iraachievement1346, I have to disagree with what you've related here. Obviously I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you as it seems you're just relaying these comments. Buddhism and Taoism are a search for something other than God. When they're not merely looking for internal truths, they're opening themselves up to a universal aspect which, because it's not necessarily tied to the triune God, can bring in demonic influences. When you open yourself up completely, which is a very common meditative goal, the sins on the earth and portals to hell around you are just waiting for you to breathe them in. When someone who is not even Christian does an open meditation it's like standing outside on a cloudy day without a raincoat - it may rain. When a Catholic or Christian, someone who has a proper baptism, does an open meditation it's like running through a thunderstorm without a raincoat on.
I would love to hear a historical take on the Canon of Scripture and Early Christian beliefs as you are typically unbiased with your research and I enjoy your style of presentation.
@metatronyt 23:36 can you explain by your statement that you're "not a huge fan of Paul"? I don't understand. If you're a Christian, Paul's letters are a core part of Christian theology in the Bible, containing such rich trinitarian dogma, salvific theology, & how a Christian lifestyle should be, etc. etc. I'm confused by this statement, as Paul is an apostle of Jesus if you believe in the Bible and Apostolic tradition.
Dogma😊
Yeah that shook me for a sec, i will pray for metatron❤
I hope he’s not a gnostic
"in this case I agree with Paul" is a highly questionable statement. St Paul is an Apostle and his epistles are scripture; they're not for lay Christians to agree or disagree with, any more than the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are.
@@oldschoolhistory3246 amen amen
For any Catholic struggling remember that you can disagree with a pope and still be catholic. Think how many disagreed with the Avignon Popes etc
Lutheran here. our whole schitck is that we're about as close to being Catholic as you can get without being Catholic specifically because the Catholic church was doing some shady shit so we branched off. It's not like it changes your core values to disagree with a pope that was human elected.
Dante Alighieri famously had a spat with the Pope of his time, and he is viewed as one of the greatest Catholic poets of all time.
Not according to Pope Leo XIII. _Similarly, it is to give proof of a submission which is far from sincere to set up some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them;_
Epistola tua, June 17, 1885
According to Roman Catholic doctrine, the Pope is infallible so a devout Catholic must confess the Pope's infallibility.
@@SoldierDrew I was reading through comments and was just going to bring this up (great minds, etc). According to the pope's infallibility, he could declare all gods of all religions are the same and it would be doctrine. I guess.
Thou shall not make idol does not equal thou shall not make images. Is the idolization and/or worship of images that’s prohibited. The angel of God described images to be made for the Ark of the Covenant, for the Temple in Jerusalem and even had them mount a snake on a pole to be looked at for healing. Making a golden calf or statue of Zeus to worship is different than an image that reminds us of something good like a crucifix or having a picture of grandma, may she rest in peace.
Thanks for all your content!
Exactly
If she prays to it it is absolutely an idol though......
Speaking of you being Italian, I would LOVE to hear your story on life in Italy. Why you ended up moving away....would you go back? What do you think of the recent uptick in expats moving there? etc...I'm American but LOVE Italy and the Italian people. Warmest most welcoming souls I have ever encountered. I lived there briefly and would move there permanently in a heartbeat. Not sure how they would feel having a Protestant Christian family in their midst though! Lol! 🤣
im old and was raised Italian Catholic. although I left that faith a long time ago(I'm a Buddhist now for decades), this pope is... well very different then the ones I have known in my life... it frankly seems to me that the higher ups of the church have been coopted like so many institutions in the west. The " all religions are on the same road" thing is a modern hippie western stupidity, even Buddhist peoples don't see things in this way and Buddhism and it's goals are very different in many ways compared to say Christianity and it's goals, with one basic huge difference is that Buddhism does not concern itself with a creator god.
Btw for the Hindus, there really is only one creator god, Brahma, and the whole purpose of the religion is to become reunited with him. The rest are beings that come from that creator. The Hindu cosmology is just filled with more types of beings than angels and demons etc because there are more realms then the physical realm, heaven/hell/purgatory.
With all that said, that doesn't mean religions should not have interfaith dialogue and find common ground for the benefit of humanity. Come together on what is in common, and respect the differences.
Very good post
Left Judaism became agnostic/atheist but still have an interest in spirituality. I wonder what sect of Buddhism you joined, because many have quite varied creeds and traditions
I worry I might me too much of a hedonist to become a full blown Buddhist, but meditation and mindfulness is something I’m really interested in.
At least the religions still have people who push back, it’s seems really hard to find/humanist/atheist/agnostic groups that have not been infected by modern wokeism, at the same time I’m not a religious traditionalist, it’s lonley
As a fellow Buddhist I agree, I believe the "all religions are a path to God" phrase can truly only apply to Abrahamic religions or at most religions with a tri-omni creator deity.
That said, the phrase itself is very presumptive to begin with and doesn't add to much to meaningful discourse.
How long have Hindus had that conception of their deities as being one? Since the beginning and can you point me to references?
I'm also a formerly Christian now Buddhist.
@@FernandoGarcia-zs9cp yes it's called Brahman. Not brahma. Both are different.
As a Catholic I'll say this we should NEVER apologize for saying our religion is correct. It doesn't matter if it may sound rude, or arrogant. That's our Faith, pope. Stand by the courage of your conviction, and don't try to bend the knee to the woke mob with a universalist patheonic messge.
You are arguably dishonoring God's infinite creation by putting up doctrinal walls.
God shaped us in His own image, gave us free will, and now we resort to safety mode and are little obedient robots.
God did not create various religions to teach us to be afraid of them, but to learn the true nature of God.
@@Dowlphin Free will doesn't mean there isn't a right or wrong and that all things are viable
Lol. Catholicism is literally a universalist doctrine.
I mean it's the truth, historically it all goes back to Star and nature worship. The original YHVH is a Volcano at Sinai. And I can get you Jewish scholarship sources. Just like us Jews never conquered the Canaanites we ARE THE CANAANITES! Look up the Kosher Altar of incense and you will find a Horned Altar they would smear blood on the Bull Horns 😂 Yisera'el is the ancient Canaanite word for Saturn for Christ sakes. Man made systems to figure out the great mystery of God or the Goddess
@@EndwankeryAs long as you aren't violating the Ten Commandments, you should be good
As a muslim and a fan of you metatron, I agree with you, that as a Christian believing in jesus as god is not optional, just as believing in Allah and his prophets and attributes is not optional for a muslim; and that by believing in one religion you disbelieve in all others.
After all, the idea that all religions lead to god is nonsense, as a lot of religions either contradict each other or go against each other, or don't believe in the existence of god but in the existence of an afterlife, maybe reincarnation, some believe in multiple gods and some in one god.
If I was on stage, I would have said I believe in Allah and Allah only, just as you metatron would have said i believe in jesus and the Trinity only, you can't have a Christian muslim or a hindu Christian as that wouldn't logically make sense.
And if the pope said it because he didn't want to offend people then:
1st-changing your beliefs based on people's feeling shows either stupidity or insecurity in belief, a disastrous thought for a pope.
2nd-this can only be considered Offensive on a very shallow level, as looking into the logic behind the statement then you wouldn't be a Christian or a muslim or a hindu or any other religion, let alone the leader of an important sect, because how can you follow this religion as the truth if you believe it's not the only way, why even believe then?
Why worry about offending people when the logic behind everyone's belief is that it's the only truth and that i must follow it, why would I, a muslim, find this Offensive when I operate on the same principle? Why would anyone really?
(Please excuse the length of the comment, i just felt that i had a lot to say)
I appreciate your lengthy comment. We need to be bold in our beliefs in order to allow challenge so that the truth can win out. For the betterment of mankind.
If you listen to Catholics talk to Muslims they frequently make these weak statements. It's sad, and 100% a pluralist heresy, but anyway, there's reasons why the reformations happened and why schisms happened many many centuries ago. Pray for him, that's all anyone can do.
The Pope didn’t say HE does not believe Christ is the only way to God. He’s the biggest Christian in the world, I sure hope he does believe that. I mean, that’s a given. Or he’s the biggest hypocrite in the world as well.
For true Christians, Christ is the only way to God. Christ himself IS God in human form. For Christians.
That wasn’t the topic for the Pope in that setting, or so it seemed to me. I see his speech as a reaching out to others of different religions that don’t view Christ as God. So to them, why would Christ be the only way. They have their own ways.
From my POV religion is universally about connecting with God, in living by the principles of one’s faith to reach that goal.
Pope Francis is the most inclusive Pope I’ve ever heard speak. He’s the OG of inclusivity, daring to reach across every barrier. The inherently exclusionary beliefs of the Church was such a problem for me growing up Catholic.
It seemed I was being told believing in Christ & even being Catholic was the only way to get to heaven. I just couldn’t bear that I wasn’t going to see my non-Catholic friends there, maybe not even my Mom cuz she didn’t go to mass & take communion, like ever.
@@Seeker09-er3sc Look up the Pluralist and universalist heresies
@@Seeker09-er3scanyone who rejects Jesus Christ calls the curse upon himself. But we don't know what anyone undergoes as he is dying. It may be that Jesus appears to him, and he recognizes the truth and repents and is saved. We just don't know.
As a croatian, i used to do business with italians, importing goods from factories and stuff. Everytime i called the factory, i had to wait on the line while they go find the one person who spoke any english. (keep in mind it's a factory with 700 workers). The person came to the phone and i could barely understand a word she said, that's how good her english was. What i wanted to say is that considering you're italian, I applaud your english, sir! :D Also, thank you for another great video.
I am curious as to why you are "not a huge fan of Paul?"
Yeah, i know Meta is a huge history buff. So i wonder if he knows something that i don't.
There is a doctor named Bart Ehrman who has done extensive research for a long time on how Paul destroyed Christianity and the Bible. But I don't know if that's what this is about.
Daniel, Bart erhman on Paul wouldn’t be worth much.
Paul didn’t destroy the Bible, if anyone attacks Paul they are the ones trying to twist Christianity as Paul is a very central figure
Paul turned a Jewish revival movement into another heathen pagan mystery cult complete with a death defying demigod with magic powers. He even dared to claim out of secret knowledge that made it so all the old Jewish practices and morality were hard to get right out the window so pagans could continue to do as they pleased.
@@danielmalinen6337let's stop using Bart Ehrman as a serious source, shall we? Most of his non-sense has been debunked time and time again
As an agnostic I disagree with the pope as well. I'm at 7:30 only, but what he said there doesn't seem right: There are religions who believe in more than one deity - whose properties and significance might be very different from the Christian god - and there are religions who have no deity at all. So really you can't say that all religions are just different paths towards god. Yes Judaism, Islam and Christianity are similar in that sense, because they're closely related, but you can't say the same thing for all religions.
We can argue about the definition of religion, I could agree it's Western when we look at Judaism, Christianity and the last religion: Islam. But they are no different from the ancient traditions of the world in the sense that they are all based on revelation, and they all teach about something higher than life which can be known and attained - this is why I disagree with agnosticism.
Regardless of worldview though, probably we agree that such scenes with the Pope are nothing but political. Such discussions have hardly anything to do with understanding religious dogmas or questions. Recently, there was a much more horrendous scene which made it clear that all they want is to drag the discussion into the mud. They can do that because the Church always speaks out of a defensive position, unfortunately.
@@magyarbondi I'm not sure all religions are based on revelation. There is no revelation in the ancient polytheistic Greek religion or in Hinduism. Buddhism doesn't even have a deity, it's closer to a philosophy. Its religious properties are due to its belief in reincarnation which is supernatural therefore outside of philosophy.
All roads lead to Rome. The road to perdition is wide.
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“Not everyone who says….”
A short note to my differentiating between "path to reach" and "path to arrive": A path to REACH God is looking from the subjective side. I can set out to reach ... the moon, but that does not mean I am going to accomplish that. A path to ARRIVE at God is a subtle tick more objective: That means I at least assume that completing the intended journey is possible on this route. Or is Italian different on this point? // Another great video. Thanks much.
In Hindu philosophy there is the idea that there is ONE SOURCE.
And the Greeks did not worship statues any more than Catholics worship statues.
You stick to Hindu and let us practice Christianity,,it’s called respect ❤
Who cares? The Hindu "source" is not the Christian god, and pagans worship pagan gods.
@@JohnGarofano-s5j Why is it "respect" to assume that I'm Hindu? That sounds like presumptuousness to me. Not very "Christian."
@@JohnGarofano-s5j Wrong again. And it is you who are insulting the Greeks and the Hindus by thinking that they "worship statues."
I DID NOT say Catholics worship statues.
I said the Greeks DID NOT worship statues any more than Catholics do.
Catholics do not worship statues.
The Greeks ALSO did not worship statues.
And likewise, the Hindus also do not worship statues.
In ALL of those cases, the Catholics, the Greeks, and the Hindus, the statues are only symbols that represent the divine power that is being worshiped.
@@ThatBoomerDude56 you should have said that in the first place ,straight to the point ,in which I agree 100% have a good day
Hi Metatron I see you're a devout Catholic Christian who is faithful. With that I believe you should revisit Paul's statements. I know you've made a statement that you don't agree with what he teaches, but Paul's letters have been sorely misunderstood by many Christians. Though they may be harsh and are the source of many debates, Paul ultimately speaks of making Christ the center.
I hope you revisit them, with a Bible Study leader to help you
He's a non-denominational Christian, not a Catholic lol. Not making an aspersion against you, but clarity is key
@@ChristoffRevanyo wat
Ok i think i just assumed he was Catholic cause he was italian? Hahahahah sorry
So, it would appear the translation was indeed correct, grammar aside, which, at its core, is contrary to Christian teaching.
Bergoglio’s parents moved to Argentina from Italy in the early 20th century. He would know Italian as it is spoken there, and give the Argentinean accent as the cherry on top.
Great video, BTW. I just subscribed.
Hinduism is a huge umbrella that is even bigger the term abrahamic. There are a ton of opposing theologies and philosophies inside it. One fairly big one is that there really is only one god, the rest are just to help explain a concept that is unexplainable
nope, research what is Jantra.
Hinduism isn't even a monotheistic religion, it's impossible to say it's worse than other false religions because christ is the only path and way (many denominations on that road of course), but its very very far from God.
@@MssAKI1992 yes, go and study their scriptures and philosophical arguments they have been having for 4,000+ years or just ask the people what they actually believe. The only thing that come up for that word is Sudanese’s music
@@Beastlango then why are you talking about something you are not even willing to research? even a little bit. sad.
my apologes, its spelled Yantra.and go deeper then first google result you get. like you did first time typing it
@@MssAKI1992 what are you even taking about? I’m the one who has done the research 😂
Commenting based entirely on the title, I've been waiting for someone like you to lay into Pope Francis online and I have great confidence that I shall be leaving a like on this video.
I’m Catholic and I don’t agree with the pope on this. But I also understand why he is saying it. As a former neopagan I would never imagined I’d one day think of becoming Christian, let alone Catholic. But it was only the kind Christians who would allow me to talk about God with them that helped me see I truly needed and wanted Christ. So I get why he’s saying it, but I also don’t fully respect it. It’s complicated but hope this makes sense.
On this and many other cases...
This Pope would make the world a big favour if he took the vows of silence... Honestly...
It's important to speak to people and show God's love to all people, but you don't do that by saying things that contradict God's word. I am so happy that you have come to know Jesus, i often pray for neo-pagans, I don't know why but it has been in my heart to pray for their salvation.
What the Pope is saying is deceit, it has a form of truth, but it is heresy. There is only One truth, and there is only one way to the Father, there is only one salvation. The pope is saying that all religions lead to God, he is putting Jesus on the same level as hindu gods, and pagan gods, and demons. As a Christian i will of course talk to people who don't believe like me, but we should never contradict the truth in order to appeal to others, which is what the pope is doing, it is dangerous to conflate talking to people, and validating their beliefs, i have talked to many people about their beliefs, but it is done from a place of me knowing the truth, if i dont know the truth, than i cannot share the truth with others. he is not saying we should just listen to each other, he is elevating false religions to the level of Jesus, which is completely and unequivocally unacceptable.
I would have absolutely talked to you when you were a neopagan, I would've absolutely heard what you have to say, and I would never have shamed you or condemned you. Still, my purpose would be to show you the truth, not just entertain conversation for the sake of fostering religious "inclusivity" What the Pope said is a doctrine of demons, and it should be taken as a sign and a warning that the Pope is not speaking Gods word or the truth, we are told to discern the spirits, and if there is a spirit that speaks a word that contradicts the Lord than that spirit is not from him.
We must consider context & audience. These were Inter religious youth engaging in dialogue, trying to find common ground. As Catholics we look at whether the or not the Pope is speaking on doctrinal matters. As these were off the cuff remarks to youth of various religions we can most assuredly say they were non-doctrinal. In that case, one should maintain a positive attitude toward non-doctrinal statements found in Church documents (or speeches), but-precisely because they are not statements of doctrine (authoritative teaching)-they do not require intellectual assent. One thus should give them serious and favorable consideration, knowing that God is guiding the pastors of the Church, but the nature of these statements ultimately does not require you to agree with them.
Audience & context matter. The Pope in his visit to Belgium the last few days had published his Apostolic address. This address spelled out his beliefs. In it he made it clear that Jesus Christ alone is the only way to God.
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Dues Vult it's for God not the church
Deus
Jesus started the church for a reason. The church is the body of Christ.
@@MrMustang13But we have to remember that the Church is led by fallible humans. God is infallible. The Church will never be perfect, but it should always aim to be.
Firstly, Deus.
Secondly, God is of course infinitely more important than a pope... But then again, Church was established by Jesus himself; it doesn't mean of course that every action or declaration of every priest is God's will...
And if you read the Church from the First Millenium, the Pope, Filoque, papacy and Vatican everyting was just power grab that caused the great skism. Becuse a Bishop (First Pope) though he knew better then others.
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Great video man, I saw this a couple days ago, and figured they would come out and try to do PR for this. He in Catholic law, being a Jesuit, shouldn't be a pope, in any way, but it's 2024 and rules and traditions are going bye bye. I read Revelations, so this is not surprising to me lol. Great vid, glad you clarified this and showed Bless God Studios, I started watching them not to long ago. You saying, I shouldn't have to clarify obvious things these days should be a motto. I get it, people misquote, will put words you say in your mouth, that you never said, then a crowd that saw that clip will never hear the full context and for years on end, claim things that were never spoken. It's a crazy, dark world these days, but it is leading to it's conclusion in my view.
As a Christian I agree with the Pope because God is Love, so Christ is Love, so what means that Christ is the only way, is that Love is the only way!!
and any person from any religion can live with love!
Bless God Studios and Ruslan's own channel are good. Have you checked out Mike Winger? He's very good at being thorough with scriptural topics.
@@cwchadwynnPaul Wallis is a charlatan
Papa don't preach
Dont watch instead of preaching yourself
@@floppynwah8141 Next time in English, please.
And your mama don’t rock n roll?
As the only one here who seems to understand OP...
I'm in trouble deep, and I'm keeping my baby :D
@@spiffygonzales5160 As long as Papa's got a brand new bag... and shoes, and hat, and doctrine.
Great video, exactly my thoughts as soon as I read about what the Pope said.
Btw, I'm curious as to why you are not a fan of Paul? Or have you already made a video regarding that?
Metatron i my opinion Pope make a political statement saying that "religion is the effort of Humans to rich the Divine" If he speak as a priest of a dogma he is going to say something different "That the only way to reach Divine is ONLY through Jesus Christ" and for me he make huge mistake
I do disagree with Pope Francis on many issues and was shocked by quite a few of his deeds in the past but - and hear me out before you pick up your stones - it's important to differentiate here on which part one can and should agree and where not. Let's make perfectly clear that Christ was crystal clear in his statement: "Nobody comes to the father but through me". Not all paths lead to God, they simply don't and it can be observed with our own eyes. What Pope Francis could mean is that all religions aim to find God. That would be an accurate statement and a foundation for fruitful conversation. EDIT: Pope Francis is doing himself a disservice by not clarifying it. The Catechism is clear: In every religion there is a spark of truth, but only Christ's Church offers the fulness of truth. We should not bicker in aggression like many do, but acknowledge the common goal: Finding God - finding truth. I'd love the Vatican to clarify, but then again Pope Francis seldomly explains himself appropriately. Sowing confusion is not noble, that should be clear and as such should be remedied, but I also do not want to accuse him of things he might not have intended.
He accuses himself. Excommunicating Vigano while himself committing heresy. A leader that is confusing you is not a good leader.
Pope Francis has reached selflessness practice. 😉
He definitely needs to clarify this.
@@fij715 Vigano clearly stated he does not submit to the Pope and the Magistrum, as such he declared himself a sedevacantist which results in Latae Sententiae - automatic excommunication. The Vatican merely made it known that he had excommunicated himself.
@@rb98769 But if he doesn't, then you have to mediate on it to attain greater enlightenment.
Bummer! 😅
Not a Christian, but a native Italian speaker with a fair command of Ancient Greek. Everything Metatron says about the Pope's original statements and about that Greek passage from the Gospels is spot on. My only minor and inconsequential quibble is that I prefer the official interpreter's translation of "figli di Dio" as "sons and daughters of God" to Metatron's "children of God" because "children" in English can mean both "sons and daughters" and "young human beings below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority", but Italian has two separate words for those two : "figli" and "bambini" respectively, so the Pope definitely meant "sons and daughters".
I'm protestant and I love your channel, thank you for talking about this subject.
And I agree with everything you said, the formulation was clumsy. And it reminds me a lot of Mormons and other protestant religions which used this type of narrative to promote their prophets over Jesus.
I might be a protestant myself, but John 14:6 is also the way I justify what I call Biblical christianity being fundamentally different to every other religion, in christianity it's all about the grace of God, in any other religion or life philosophy, you yourself have to contribute to your salvation/enlightenment, there it's mostly about what you do, not about what Jesus has already done for you and what He now wants to freely give you, if you accept Him. Saying all religions are the same is about the most unchristian and unbiblical thing one can say, not going to elaborate further on that...
@Vidhur
Don't you realize you put yourself in a moral dilemma How can I do good deeds and fast a whole month every year and praise from day to night not having grace of God while someone who never do a good in his life have it isn't more like racism more than grace
Paul said faith without works is dead.
@Vidhur
In Islam the way to reach salvation is through mercy of God Prophet Mohammad PBUH said : " There is none whose deeds alone would entitle him to get into Paradise. It was said to him: And, Allah's Messenger, not even you? Thereupon, he said: Not even I, but that my Lord wraps me in Mercy " muslim 2816 .
But the difference is the way to deserve mercy . In Islam to have mercy is how are you merciful to other and that more justice than what you preach .
Because in Islam Allah will judge according intention which he is the only one knows no priest or pope which means taking in account the individual differences :
The blind will not judge as who can see because obviously the work is hard for the blind. The poor will not judge as the rich and ill will not judge as well all be judged according to their intentions
@@Mu3az523 It's not about doing good, wanting to do good comes natural from accepting God, as by accepting Him you accept his Word and thus His Commandments, you will want to follow them and serve your fellow man, but going to heaven is solely mercy won through Jesus' sacrifice on Golgotha. On the other side, it was even possible for one of the criminals beside Jesus on other crosses, in the eleventh hour of his life one of the two looked to Jesus and asked if he could be with Him in paradise, and Jesus told him he would. This doesn't mean that you can just sin all your life and use grace as an excuse, you have to repent, but as long as there's life, grace and mercy can be given to you, freely... It's not up to us to judge whether this is a "moral dilemma", since we're all sinners, we're all clay and we don't tell the Ceramist (with a capital C) that we deserve better (Romans 9), we can only ask for mercy...
@Vidhur
Why you are making lies about my religion ask any Muslim will tell you works will be judged by Iman ( faith on God) not by the outer appearance of the work
The papistry has always been corrupted. No one man can be the HEAD of the church. The head of the church is Christ, the pope is a man and is a sinner he is not infallible. The twisting and bastardizing of the gospel shows this, Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. I do not respect an organization that sits in lavish palaces of gold while the needy starve. I’m glad many of my brothers and sisters in faith are realizing that the Catholic Church is a false church. Even the name they call themselves “Catholic” meaning whole or complete is a statement driven by ego. All you have to do is look at the history. The Catholic Church are just like the Pharisees of the new testament they twist Gods word. The Catholic Church is ridden with corruption and occultism. Rome never truly left its pagan roots behind.
Amen. The head of the church is Jesus Christ, the Holy Father is God the Father, and the Vicar of Christ is the Holy Spirit.
He's an interpreter, not a translator. Translators deal with written language, interpreters deal with spoken language.
Lol, I bet you're fun at parties.
Lol, I bet you're fun a parties.
@@alohi79 He is absolutely correct. there is a difference in spoken and written word interpreters and translators. My son is both and the process is different. He is fun at parties
@@julieborges-iv3rc lol naw.... you both suck
That is not a distinction made in normal speech. Its all translation.
Just to set the expectation, I was born and raised as a protestant, I've read Bible (both old testament and new testament) and studied to become a priest, but for almost 20 years now I've been a neo-pagan (Asatru).
You saying that words of Pope must be discarded in favor of Bible, I agree. Bible is *the* holy book for Christians and in christianity, and anything that goes against or contradicts it what is laid down in the Bible cannot be followed in its stead.
Well done video, but yours always are.
You can have Buddhism without Buddha, you can have Islam without Muhammad, but, if you take Christ out of Christian all you are left with is the letters I.A.N. and Ian cannot help you.
The almighty and mother earth can help us.
You can't have Islam without Muhammad because shahada or first pillar of the faith is : I believe with heart and say with words that there is only one God and that Muhammad is His slave and His Messenger. So without shahada you are not Muslim.
@nerminsnowhuseinbasic9340 but conceivably, the teachings could exist without him. Also, Islam is the world's most obvious false religion so I don't really give it the time of day...
By your standards, Buddhism without Buddha would be Ism. Lmao.
@@melodymcminn4107the Earth isn't sentient and can be hostile.
I should’ve guessed that Metatron was a Christian but I just didn’t assume. Now that I know he’s the third RUclipsr that I watch regularly that’s a Christian. Which may not seem like a lot but it’s nice to get representation
Lol, christianity is the worlds largest religion even if its not openly voiced there's plenty of representation
Keep in mind, he's not Catholic but non-denominational. Just wanted to put that out there for clarification, no hidden meaning or agenda meant by this statement...simply, I saw some others try to claim he was Catholic but he isn't.
a lot of the media feels anti-Christian and like you said there aren’t a lot of vocal Christians in media so my statement still stands
@@SkyoffRunesthere’s more Muslims I’m pretty sure actually, would have to look
@ICECAPPEDSKY no that's the youngest and fastest growing Abrahamic religion
23:35 you are not a big fan of paul?
yeah i was like huh? 😂
@@kingdavid6125me too. What's that all about?
Yeah man, why isn't he a big fan of Paul? Hopefully he will make this clear.
If anyone understands the actual history of early Christianity and how Jesus of the gospels is so different from the Jesus we get through church, it’s because of Paul just coming along and making up a ton of crap from the existing Helenistic heathens of the time to attract more people.
@@Mortabluntlol Paul the Deceiver? 😂 Muslim spotted! 😂
So interesting when u translated the Pope’s words. U let us make our own judgments . I am such a fan of all your content . I am love to learn new facts from your videos. Keep up the great work u do !!
Why don’t you care for Paul?
Yes, this is an intriguing statement.
Might be because Paul's letters are admittedly a big source of where most of our most confusing and arguably controversial doctrines came from. While he has contributed greatly to the faith, admittedly some of his letters have been twisted in ways that they become stumbling blocks for fellow Christians in various ways. Like people who use Paul's words to justify sexism, slavery, and other things.
As a Christian, I myself tend to look at parts of the New Testament and ask God "what were you thinking with this?" Primarily because I don't understand the purpose of certain verses due to how they've been misused for a long time. We can try to blow off those who have misused scripture, but in order to truly counter them we must understand what the scripture actually says, or else we end up accidentally making the Bible look fallible by not adressing any criticisms or errors raised.
@@tempestvenator9809 I'm of the opinion that God is big enough to look after himself and His word, the Bible, is exactly how he wants it. He is sovereign. In control.
You are not a Christian if you don't accept Paul entirely, homosexuality is big sin ,women should be quiet in Church and cover up ,I am glad that I am Orthodox Christian WOMAN and I respect Paul entirely@@tempestvenator9809
He didn't say he dont't care about Paul, he said he is not a big fan.
Very different issues.
as a Christian I disagree with the Pope.
Well if you're a protestant, then that kind of goes without saying anyway, doesn't it
Hmm... Should someone tell Santa Claus (aka St. Nicholas) about this? Slapping the pope for heresy was his thing, wasn't it?
Or was that a different saint?
Edit: good slapper, wrong slapee. Thanks for correction.
Saint Nicholas infamously slapped the daylights out of Arius
He didn’t slap the pope, he allegedly slapped the heretic Arius, who was a bishop.
American English teacher here. (I mean I am American, not that I teach American English. Damn...) You have a great accent when you speak English. You have a standard English accent. I use some of your videos with my English students!
I'm pretty sure most people disagree with the Pope. Almost as much as people want to be the Pope.
A bit of pope , a bit of sultan. Wine and wenches for me.
As most of the world is not Catholic (or Christian for that matter), most people would disagree with the Pope anyway.
Add in Internal Catholic disagreements with the Pope, and yeah it's pretty certain that the majority disagrees with him.
More are upset with Pope than want that office. Even most Catholics don't want the Office.
@@cuddlecreeper8 1/3rd of the world is christian lol thats a lot of people
@@daMillenialTrucker It's more like ~1/4th now.
Either way although it is quite a lot of people, both statistics are less than 51% which would be the majority of the world.
Sometimes the Pope is spot on. Sometimes I wonder if the Pope just speaks without considering if his words are backed up by scripture and church traditions.
As a Christian I agree with the Pope because God is Love, so Christ is Love, so what means that Christ is the only way, is that Love is the only way!!
and any person from any religion can live with love!
@@MomeGnome True love, yes, self sacrifice. Living while trying to make life a bit better for others, with empathy, obviously caring for yourself as well, your family.
And being grateful for being alive and loving God for it.
So this pope who is proclaimed to be from the " direct line of successors that goes back to Saint Peter " doesnt even know about the First and most important commandment? which is: You should not have other gods beside me. Good luck Catholics.
Gude Metatron, your video is much appriciated. Very honest and important take on the situation. I also liked how you made it like a broader discussion while using their video. This is like the community interactions we had and lost on youtube, so thank you for interconnecting those things.
Btw, I think there is a difference between offspring/creation of God and the term children of God. You made it clear that people already disagreed and you may not see this or wont reply, thats all fine. Just there is this difference I find in John 1,12+13
"12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (NKJV)
I'm not a Greek expert, so I have to try and search and understand the translation differences. My unprofessional find is a difference of vocabualry in the Greek:
John 1,12 uses τέκνα θεοῦ (tekna theou) "children of god" while Acts 17,28&29 uses γένος (genos) with a different grammar structure to connect Θεοῦ (theou) with the "offspring ... of/from God". Theological speaking, through my bias, it would lead to the conclusion, that all mankind is made in the image of God, to become children of God through relationship, which is an adoption by God through faith. This we can see in unison with Paul in Galatians 3,26+27 even though he uses here the term υἱοὶ (huioi) "sons" -> θεοῦ (theou) of God
"26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ." (NKJV) q.e.d.
Best regards, even if we agree to disagree.
The pope also recently came out and said Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation. The problem is everyone is trying to make the pope say one thing when he’s being vague and ignore the concise thing he says that contradicts the popular misconception. He’s literally the most lied about, misunderstood, and mischaracterized person in the world. In Acts 17.22 St Paul addresses the athenians, praises them for their spirituality, and informs them the unknown god they worship is the same god that he worships, they just dont know him. People walk with God their entire lives and religions are different paths of that walk. Not all of them lead to salvation but all are an effort or a path to god in our lifetime.
Best response I’ve read on here.
If they dont lead to salvation, they *are not paths to God*. The Pope is only infallible ex Cathedra, this statement was not ex Cathedra, so he was very much fallible in this circumstance.
@@dorugoramon0518 I know that and agree that this isnt dogma but i agree with the teaching but lets look at scripture and then a logical modern example….. take acts 17. Paul doesnt admonish the athenians for worshipping a false god. Instead he praises them for their spirituality and then informs them the god they worship is the same god that Paul himself worships. In this way, the athenians were closer to god than if they worshipped nothing at all.
Now for a modern example: lets look at an atheist who spends his life on the net being a troll. He comes up against a smart muslim who convinces him the truth of islam. He stops being a troll, prays, stops sinning, tries to live a good life according to the Quran. Would you not say that person is closer to god than he was before? Is final salvation the only time that we encounter god? What about all the years of our lives of struggling, the religions of the world are an attempt at reaching and pleasing god. The pope also said that Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation…. I just dont see what everyone’s problem is. Recently a protestant friend of mine tried to say youre either a proper christian or you worship a demon. I dont see how that fits with scripture, traditon, or common sense.
We live in a polarized world and everyone is a polemic. I think its refreshing to see the pope looking for common ground. No wonder he has soooooo much opposition.
Yes exactly. And I'm not surprised that the vicar of Christ is hated by so many and accused often.
The idea that religion is a “path to God” is indeed a traditional understanding. The word “religion” comes from the Latin “religare,” meaning to bind or reconnect, implying that religion helps reconnect humanity with the divine. Pope Francis, for instance, often speaks of respecting other faiths, but it’s important to distinguish between acknowledging the sincerity of others’ beliefs and saying all paths are equally true. The Catholic Church maintains that Jesus is the fullness of truth, but it also recognizes elements of truth in other faiths. The pope’s comments could be seen as promoting dialogue and respect without diluting the central claims of Christianity.
You’re exactly right! These were young people from different religions. 🤦♀️ Like right off the Pope’s gonna tell them they’re damned because they don’t believe in Jesus? Of course not! You love them first.
Thanks for the translation comments. It’s great to have a native Italian speaker with your background making this video. And I agree with your position.
Hi❤ You mentioned not being a fan of Paul.. could you maybe explain why? Thanks
Yeah unfortunately the current pope has lost the respect of even his catholic followers, he’s just innovated and deviated WAY to much from the actual Christian tradition
A bit of context, the Pope was in Singapore 2 weeks back. This was a dialogue with our youth on interreligious.
The Pope was responding to the questions posted by different student representative of their religious faith. These students are from one of our higher education institutions. The below is the whole vid of the event hosted at the higher education institute.
ruclips.net/user/liveJv_KQigjqYM?si=H9R7MiS9lfbbFQkr
Gweilo won't listen until he's right
I believe the Pope is speaking in a more general sense here. He’s not saying that you can make it into heaven by means of different religions. I believe that what the Pope is describing here is that all religions are methods by which us , imperfect humans try and extend our hands upward and ascertain God. Not that they all will lead us to salvation
I needed to scroll too far for this comment. I agree that Pope was probably speaking about something slightly different. Also my question is... Can atheist or any-other-that-christian-ist get to Heaven?
I'm a Christian as well and I studied translation. Thank you so much for this video. Truly made my day!