A lot of these KO-adjacent companies have disposable names. How many names has Black Mamba gone under over the years? 7-8? When TE ended DS popped up with toys using the same engineering and aesthetic and I fully expect a new co.pany to pop up and continue the line within a year. There is money to be made, these toy designs are popular and sell well so I doubt they've thrown in the towel completely.
This is definitely what I’m expecting to see. The point of the brand-changing game is often to avoid the previous name’s contentions, and it happens all the time.
I hope DS comes out under a different company name and makes the cone heads. Personally I’m not a big fan of the matte paint but I’d like them to match my other DS Seekers. However, if they don’t make the coneheads it seems like the best option might be Make Toys.
On top of what you said, allegedly people behind TE/DS were also behind company making MP-52 Eagle KOs, which might also attributed to this situation. However, DS as a company might go down, but as long as people behind the company are not arrested, we will probably see coneheads mold developed out of DE seekers mold, just with another name on the box. At worst case scenario design will be sold to somebody else, so I believe we did not see last of them. I am sad if they are really going away as I love my TE-01B Nemesis Prime and TE-03 Mirage, but I will find comfort in the fact I got all three DS seekers at sub $100 each to keep the memory of DS alive on my shelves :))))
Now this is my topic. Currently displaying some toyworld coneheads in alt-mode. I am disappointed with them and hold them at the top of my desire. I want toon accurate bot mode coneheads! Great topic!
Same with me. I have all 3 DS seekers. I got the toyworld coneheads when they were $89 a peice. I haven't given takara a single $ after Hound. Best looking Hound but made from wet tissue. And the head floats above the hood in bot mode. Guess I'll wait for xtransbots or fanstoys for some coneheads.
I liked the aesthetics and quality of TE and DS. To me, they were top notch and arguably made the best versions of the characters. If they would have incorporated butterfly joints on some figures like Mirage, I would have said hands down the best version of that character. As others have said, hope they pop up again. At the very least, maybe consulted by Takara’s design team
Man that is some stunning news! I’ve bought their figures and loved them. Hopefully they make a return. They basically fill a void between Fanstoys and Xtransbots
I really hope that Deformation pops up with another name, and just continues business and knock out the Coneheads. I have also hoped that MakeToys gets it together and knocks em out like they are supposed to..(10years) later🤣. Nah, but im optimistic that some company WILL make the Coneheads, because thats a lot of money out there for some company to make!💪🏼👍🏼😎Happy Friday Mike..thx for the info.
Those coneheads look amazing and cartoon accurate this is one of the main reasons why modern day Transformers is so much better than vintage no offence😊 Those other Transformers figures also are amazing as well. Other than that a great video keep up the great work👍 And greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱
The conehead are one of the seekers i haven't collected yet..i have the newage one and i love them..i think your right if deformation makes cone head i would like them to be same size of takara starscream..
Sad to hear about Deformation Space . First Eaglemoss, now them. Bad times . They were the closest match of quality, price and design to my taste . The transformation wasn't an issue, as due to the paint, I gave up on that . No scratches for me .
What? Both Transform Element and Deformation Space no longer exist? This is the first time I have got such information. Damn, what a shame... I was really looking forward to what Transform Element would release next, since that seemed to be the only company with the same quality in its products as Fans Toys has.
I just bit the bullet yesterday and bought the final Takara conehead that I was missing, Thrust. The bot modes are pretty outdated now, and they're almost impossible to display due to their big bulky wings and awkward posing, but the jet modes are second-to-none. Absolutely gorgeous. I suppose I'm going to wait until a 3P solution with bot modes I like releases at an affordable pricepoint for all three. Maybe Maketoys? They are still pursuing the G1 toyetic look which I strongly prefer (The Toyworld ones are just too OTT and stray too far). I look at the newer Takara and my Fanstoys figures on my shelf next to the more G1 toyetic ones, and they just look plain in comparison. :/ But that's another discussion altogether. And if you love the toon look, then go for it.
That is the thing about this hobby if we wait and see we may wait forever. You buy the Takara ones which are actually pretty good and can enjoy them for years until something better finally comes along
@@tydiriumhanger1320 I'm trying to find a way to display the three jets plus version 2 Starscream. My current thought is to get a custom glass-topped display coffee table.
7:17 iGear had *_TWO types_* of seekers. The ones you showed were their raptors, which were voyager sized ones in a unique aestheric; but their others were G1 aesthetic and MP scaled, and preceded the MP11s, but were vast imorovements over the MP03 seekers. iGear named their seekers PP03's, and had really nice box art where the teams of 3 could have their boxes combined to illustrate a planet (or moon) they were hovering over. Funny enough, the MP11s used engineering that the iGear had done when they improved over the MP03 seekers. I think iGear made 9 characters in the MP style. The main 3 seekers, the 3 coneheads, an orange sunstorm, a translucent purple, and I think a green one. Thrust was my favorite seeker toy in the 80s, so when I got into the MP collecting game late, the iGear thrust was what I was watching to try and get at a nice price. Odd you left out the YesModel seekers, which were KOs, but I think were phenomenal options for coneheads with their plethora of accessories, and price. There was another company that either bought out or KO'd the iGear MP aesthetic molds and re-released them (way different box art, minor differences to the figure... iGear heads were always smaller looking compared to other seekers). There was also a KO of the MP11 mold that made the clean yellow sunstorm, a chrome gold starscream, a translucent purple (I got two as my teleporting skywarp and a reformatting skywarp to my translucent eligos/cyclonus). It's probably been 5+ years since places like tfdirect, and maybe even showZ, put up pre-orders for the generic purple troop building seeker and green seeker... and I think haven't yet been "canceled" on my accounts. Seeker confusion indeed.
I still only have the Toyworld coneheads since they were on massive sale for the trio. If two other companies did MP coneheads with new transformations, I'd have a different conehead from each company and pick whoever did the best/least bad version. But I doubt anyone is willing to make yet another line of seekers just yet. Hopefully the next ones to try will start out with the coneheads.
Great Talking points about something Ive been wondering about myself. I love my DS seekers. Way better than hastak. The Zeta/ Toyworld coneheads are great… the colors and design are cool, but I was waiting for DS to release them so i can upgrade. Also are we even gonna get Blasters cassettes? I thought TE and DS were going to be the new contenders… lets see if they form a new company 😉
Yeah, those iGear Coneheads you showed were the Raptor Squadron versions, which were CHUG sized (all about Voyager height). The MPs were basically modified MP03 mold (the PP03 squad), as someone else said. I think that it's more like Transform Element, Aoyi Mech, Deformation Space, etc. all WERE Black Mamba...not sure wtf they be doing that keeps them gettin' in trouble and havin' to go away for awhile only to come back with a new name and repeat the process... Then again, KuBianBao doesn't really seem to be around anymore. Ditto that for whatever KO maker it was that did all those PerfectEffect Perfect Combiner kit KOs. And aside from the MP11 KO reissue, is Yes Model even around anymore??
LOL, This is 100% speculation. Bobby Skullface puts out a video that is also 100% speculation and everyone follows suit. Transform Element has active preorders for clear Mirage. I also emailed ShowZ and they stated Deformation Space is not out of business.
These guys made two of the best goddamn toys in the entire Transformers history. Crimson Wing and Recording Alliance are unbelievably good. What a shame that they're just gone.
Not trying to Black Pill but I warned of the coming disruptions with 3rd party builders. Most will be gone before another year goes by. Even FansToys and XTB could be gone here soon as well. Wars and potential wars are disruptive to say the least. This goes well beyond toys.
@@tydiriumhanger1320Glad I was wrong about these 3rd party builders going away but prices have certainly gone up a bit. I'll take price hikes over doors closing any day. MakeToys finished up their cone head set since this vid was released. They're pretty good but I'm not looking to replace my MP-11 with them. What I am looking at is the Rainmakers from MT. The scale with MakeToys is in line with Takara's offerings. The older TW/ZETA Coneheads you picked up in a trade work better with your DS seekers. Best bet for better Coneheads moving forward is Takara it seems. Still nothing announced with any coming. Not even just a simple recolor of Sunstorm on the 52. Have to wait and see.
I'm getting the maketoys coneheads myself but I still don't have theain trio I use to have kbb seekers but hated them thet were a floppy mess so sold them
@@tydiriumhanger1320 yeah I can get that if you got the others to want the rest I find that transformation with ds to be crazy over engineered and probably too frustrating for me . At the same time I thought the same about the x-transbots trailer for mensor but once I got it didn't find it to be that bad so maybe it would be the same with ds not sure. I know I'd get them over the masterpiece though
Damn. I'm going to miss TE and DS quite a lot. I'm not giving Takara a single penny for their subpar Mp figures. I guess I'll have to wait until Ft or Xtb to put out their Mp Coneheads years from now.
I still have my MP-11 coneheads and if there is an mp-52 released I’ll get those too. I try to keep to a “if there is a Takara that’s what is in my collection” rule. Only exceptions are the Moon Studio Trainbots and Acoustic Wave but I also have the Takara versions.
I know this will be tin-foily hat type of talk. But the shutdown makes me think that Takara will be coming up with a redesign of their coneheads next. Their only viable competition has just been shut down. The coneheads have always been a retool of the seeker mold, and if the seeker mold they're gonna be using is the 2.0, and considering the amount of kibble that coneheads have, that better be a sturdy and stable retool.
So why are Transform Element and Deformation Space gone? Their products sold very well by all accounts. I loved TE products, really sad if they are truly gone.
@@TheReincarnatedDeath Interesting. Though technically they are not KOs they are 3rd party original designs. KOs literally steal the same exact parts/moulds/boxes/etc. Guessing they released theirs too close to the same time Takara was releasing their version.
It will really suck if they don't make the coneheads, DS was really getting to be my favorite company. I will get ko's of the Takara coneheads if DS is really done but I hope I don't have to.
I'll wait for the Takara Coneheads unless another company makes something unbelievably good. I wasn't a fan of the Deformation Space Seekers for a number of reasons and even if they stayed around to make the Coneheads i'd probably pass on them. I haven't seen any other Seekers beyond Takara's that I like so i'll likely just wait if I can. I just worry Takara will take a long time to make them.
Hate to see DS And TE go. I was never a fan of the cone heads. I would pick them up if DS or another company made them to the similar scale at the DS seekers.
Sorry but DS is done because "trust me" doesn't really work. This is the only video I've seen saying anything about them being gone. TE isn't gone either btw.
I stick with official since I know it will be a homogeneous look and the company won't disappear before the set is done. Knowing takara, a 2.0 is bound to be around the corner
I will go the KO route with Takara because I still hope for some form of DS coneheas. As for how they redesign to get the cone that will be interesting
I really like Transform Element and Deformation Space. If there will be no DS coneheads, I won't feel too left out. Those characters never really had much personality in the cartoon. The original three seekers had more more defined personalities simply from having more screen time. I am not buying Takara's seekers, they are too bulky on the jet bottom, too limited in articulation and too unstable. I was hoping to see more from this company, I have purchased all their products so far. Great Optimus Prime with no backpack.
What too bulky limited articulation u can't be serious right, do u even own any mp-52 mold cause if u did u wouldn't be saying any of that I personally think ur basing ur opinion off of videos cause what u said couldn't be further from the truth, look the bottom that u claim bulky is subjective,and the articulation is what sets this figure apart from d.s and any other company point blank he has double jointed knees and elbows, head articulation is crazy,butterfly joints, ab-crunch, feet that articulate front to back with a rocker(d.s doesn't have that)waist swivel would've been nice(it wasn't included for a reason)but I still can get an iron-man pose without and nobody can front that with the waist swivel on d.s it breaks up the sculpt and it looks ugly and let's not get into their Prime I had him and I sold him cause of NO paint on a mp figure and beyond limited articulation I bought the mp-44 cause it superior in every way and nobody cares about the backpack because no one poses their figures with their back facing forward...ultimately none of takaras figures are worth the ridiculous asking price imo starscream ain't worth $275 that I paid when he 1st came out and Mp-44 ain't worth $400-$530 that they're asking for now even with all those accessories,but to base ur opinion off of a video and not actually have the figure in hand idk bro I can't do that oh and I'm not a takara fanboy at all...ima Fanstoys fanboy 💪🤣🤣🤣👍
@@asaphmartinez4225 That's a lot of words, man. I'm not buying anything without waist swivel. I love FansToys too but their aerialbots do not have waist swivel, so I'm not buying them either.
I think the DS has a better design and taller than Takara but I really had no issues with my Seekers from Takara. TE and DS have made great versions of every figure so far
Good riddance. Their starscream was useless and was inferior to MP-52, They could have used their R&D time to give us something we NEED, like sideswipe or datsun bros. TE also waisted their opportunities, Mirage was nice but he was super flawed, tones of QC Issues. we all knew FT mirage was coming so designing one thats going to be outdated fairly soon wasent a good idea. Maketoys is just, they need to stop. their seekers are GARBAGE, i almost bought then before MP-52 Was announced, but i went with takara due to accuracy. the only thing decent they're doing is generic seekers, but that SHOULD be done with the 52 Mold.
Shame. Deformation seekers were the best. Love em
They did win in my mind
Deformation will come back under another name
Got my fingers crossed!
A lot of these KO-adjacent companies have disposable names. How many names has Black Mamba gone under over the years? 7-8? When TE ended DS popped up with toys using the same engineering and aesthetic and I fully expect a new co.pany to pop up and continue the line within a year. There is money to be made, these toy designs are popular and sell well so I doubt they've thrown in the towel completely.
This is definitely what I’m expecting to see. The point of the brand-changing game is often to avoid the previous name’s contentions, and it happens all the time.
That would be great if that happens
I hope DS comes out under a different company name and makes the cone heads. Personally I’m not a big fan of the matte paint but I’d like them to match my other DS Seekers. However, if they don’t make the coneheads it seems like the best option might be Make Toys.
I was also hoping for a shiny repaint of those seekers but looks like it is not in the cards
I was so young when transformers came out I remember megatron being a conehead 😅
All of my DS jet boys were pristine with no problems.
I had some sloppy paint in a few small areas and that one shoulder intake problem but that was it
@@tydiriumhanger1320 I must have been lucky. Mine are extra sharp.
I have the toy world ones. So far I still like them. I like the difference in size between the seekers and cone heads.
I have always felt Coneheads are bigger and not just because they left the cone up and not tucked back buy they felt bigger to me
@@tydiriumhanger1320 coneheads should be the upgrades of the seekers.
@@tydiriumhanger1320I always considered them to be stronger and larger than the regular seekers
On top of what you said, allegedly people behind TE/DS were also behind company making MP-52 Eagle KOs, which might also attributed to this situation.
However, DS as a company might go down, but as long as people behind the company are not arrested, we will probably see coneheads mold developed out of DE seekers mold, just with another name on the box. At worst case scenario design will be sold to somebody else, so I believe we did not see last of them.
I am sad if they are really going away as I love my TE-01B Nemesis Prime and TE-03 Mirage, but I will find comfort in the fact I got all three DS seekers at sub $100 each to keep the memory of DS alive on my shelves :))))
I also hope they rebrand and move forward with Coneheads, but I also hoped for those seekers with a shiny paint job
Now this is my topic. Currently displaying some toyworld coneheads in alt-mode. I am disappointed with them and hold them at the top of my desire. I want toon accurate bot mode coneheads! Great topic!
Yes I would upgrade to DS coneheads as soon as they come out but Toyworld still holds that spot for me and I have a Takara one packed away
Same with me. I have all 3 DS seekers. I got the toyworld coneheads when they were $89 a peice. I haven't given takara a single $ after Hound. Best looking Hound but made from wet tissue. And the head floats above the hood in bot mode. Guess I'll wait for xtransbots or fanstoys for some coneheads.
Those Toyworld coneheads are a great value and Zeta used the same molds for even cheaper
I'll just stick with Takara Coneheads... Great Vid. 🌟🤓
Those should be a guarantee but what is the hold up from takara
I liked the aesthetics and quality of TE and DS. To me, they were top notch and arguably made the best versions of the characters. If they would have incorporated butterfly joints on some figures like Mirage, I would have said hands down the best version of that character. As others have said, hope they pop up again. At the very least, maybe consulted by Takara’s design team
Yep they have done great work and all of their figures are currently in my display well Mp44 takes the prime spot LOL
Man that is some stunning news! I’ve bought their figures and loved them. Hopefully they make a return. They basically fill a void between Fanstoys and Xtransbots
True their figures look great and fit in well with FT and XTB
I really hope that Deformation pops up with another name, and just continues business and knock out the Coneheads. I have also hoped that MakeToys gets it together and knocks em out like they are supposed to..(10years) later🤣. Nah, but im optimistic that some company WILL make the Coneheads, because thats a lot of money out there for some company to make!💪🏼👍🏼😎Happy Friday Mike..thx for the info.
Oddly it appears the seekers did not sell as well as they wanted in the first place but I do hope for a rebranded return
Those coneheads look amazing and cartoon accurate this is one of the main reasons why modern day Transformers is so much better than vintage no offence😊
Those other Transformers figures also are amazing as well.
Other than that a great video keep up the great work👍
And greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱
Yes these days the figures look so great it is almost hard to even believe
The conehead are one of the seekers i haven't collected yet..i have the newage one and i love them..i think your right if deformation makes cone head i would like them to be same size of takara starscream..
I am also interested in how they would redesign that part of the transformation
Sad to hear about Deformation Space . First Eaglemoss, now them. Bad times .
They were the closest match of quality, price and design to my taste .
The transformation wasn't an issue, as due to the paint, I gave up on that . No scratches for me .
I am confident they will likely return under another name. They were transform element, Jujiang(?) and etc before becoming deformation space....
What? Both Transform Element and Deformation Space no longer exist? This is the first time I have got such information. Damn, what a shame... I was really looking forward to what Transform Element would release next, since that seemed to be the only company with the same quality in its products as Fans Toys has.
Sad to see them go, but I'm still glad I got their seekers.
Yep if that is all we get it still was worth it in the end
Both my takara Star Scream and Thundercracker are so brittle they break if I try to move anything.
I just bit the bullet yesterday and bought the final Takara conehead that I was missing, Thrust. The bot modes are pretty outdated now, and they're almost impossible to display due to their big bulky wings and awkward posing, but the jet modes are second-to-none. Absolutely gorgeous.
I suppose I'm going to wait until a 3P solution with bot modes I like releases at an affordable pricepoint for all three. Maybe Maketoys? They are still pursuing the G1 toyetic look which I strongly prefer (The Toyworld ones are just too OTT and stray too far).
I look at the newer Takara and my Fanstoys figures on my shelf next to the more G1 toyetic ones, and they just look plain in comparison. :/ But that's another discussion altogether. And if you love the toon look, then go for it.
That is the thing about this hobby if we wait and see we may wait forever. You buy the Takara ones which are actually pretty good and can enjoy them for years until something better finally comes along
@@tydiriumhanger1320 I'm trying to find a way to display the three jets plus version 2 Starscream. My current thought is to get a custom glass-topped display coffee table.
I suspect that once the heat is off Black Mamba, either DS will be back, or there will be yet another name that will release the Coneheads.
I do hope that happens
I was lucky with the deformation, £60 each a year back.
7:17 iGear had *_TWO types_* of seekers. The ones you showed were their raptors, which were voyager sized ones in a unique aestheric; but their others were G1 aesthetic and MP scaled, and preceded the MP11s, but were vast imorovements over the MP03 seekers. iGear named their seekers PP03's, and had really nice box art where the teams of 3 could have their boxes combined to illustrate a planet (or moon) they were hovering over. Funny enough, the MP11s used engineering that the iGear had done when they improved over the MP03 seekers.
I think iGear made 9 characters in the MP style. The main 3 seekers, the 3 coneheads, an orange sunstorm, a translucent purple, and I think a green one.
Thrust was my favorite seeker toy in the 80s, so when I got into the MP collecting game late, the iGear thrust was what I was watching to try and get at a nice price.
Odd you left out the YesModel seekers, which were KOs, but I think were phenomenal options for coneheads with their plethora of accessories, and price. There was another company that either bought out or KO'd the iGear MP aesthetic molds and re-released them (way different box art, minor differences to the figure... iGear heads were always smaller looking compared to other seekers). There was also a KO of the MP11 mold that made the clean yellow sunstorm, a chrome gold starscream, a translucent purple (I got two as my teleporting skywarp and a reformatting skywarp to my translucent eligos/cyclonus).
It's probably been 5+ years since places like tfdirect, and maybe even showZ, put up pre-orders for the generic purple troop building seeker and green seeker... and I think haven't yet been "canceled" on my accounts.
Seeker confusion indeed.
Great points that explains why I always thought they were better scaled for chug thanks
I still only have the Toyworld coneheads since they were on massive sale for the trio. If two other companies did MP coneheads with new transformations, I'd have a different conehead from each company and pick whoever did the best/least bad version. But I doubt anyone is willing to make yet another line of seekers just yet. Hopefully the next ones to try will start out with the coneheads.
It sure is great to have options like Toyworld at such a great price
Great Talking points about something Ive been wondering about myself. I love my DS seekers. Way better than hastak. The Zeta/ Toyworld coneheads are great… the colors and design are cool, but I was waiting for DS to release them so i can upgrade. Also are we even gonna get Blasters cassettes? I thought TE and DS were going to be the new contenders… lets see if they form a new company 😉
I’d be shocked if they didn’t.
Great point about the cassettes that would be awesome if they rebranded and gave us coneheads and cassettes
一个很好的话题！🤔
Yeah, those iGear Coneheads you showed were the Raptor Squadron versions, which were CHUG sized (all about Voyager height). The MPs were basically modified MP03 mold (the PP03 squad), as someone else said.
I think that it's more like Transform Element, Aoyi Mech, Deformation Space, etc. all WERE Black Mamba...not sure wtf they be doing that keeps them gettin' in trouble and havin' to go away for awhile only to come back with a new name and repeat the process...
Then again, KuBianBao doesn't really seem to be around anymore. Ditto that for whatever KO maker it was that did all those PerfectEffect Perfect Combiner kit KOs. And aside from the MP11 KO reissue, is Yes Model even around anymore??
Many are saying it was the Eagle KO that got them in trouble, why KO a seeker that competes directly with your main offering?
LOL, This is 100% speculation. Bobby Skullface puts out a video that is also 100% speculation and everyone follows suit. Transform Element has active preorders for clear Mirage. I also emailed ShowZ and they stated Deformation Space is not out of business.
Hopefully they will change their name again, we need those cone heads
That would be awesome and they would make easy $$$
These guys made two of the best goddamn toys in the entire Transformers history. Crimson Wing and Recording Alliance are unbelievably good. What a shame that they're just gone.
I hope they rebrand and keep going
I want new Takara upgraded Coneheads! I stick with Takara because of the better paint job!
Yes I would like a shiny DS seeker set more like Takara
I was banking on DS making the coneheads 😭
I was also and figured the next news from them was coneheads not that they are done
Problem with cone heads is they consume mass quantities!
Ha that was a great movie and sketch
Not trying to Black Pill but I warned of the coming disruptions with 3rd party builders. Most will be gone before another year goes by. Even FansToys and XTB could be gone here soon as well.
Wars and potential wars are disruptive to say the least. This goes well beyond toys.
True freaking real world problems interrupting our fun
@@tydiriumhanger1320Glad I was wrong about these 3rd party builders going away but prices have certainly gone up a bit. I'll take price hikes over doors closing any day.
MakeToys finished up their cone head set since this vid was released. They're pretty good but I'm not looking to replace my MP-11 with them. What I am looking at is the Rainmakers from MT. The scale with MakeToys is in line with Takara's offerings. The older TW/ZETA Coneheads you picked up in a trade work better with your DS seekers.
Best bet for better Coneheads moving forward is Takara it seems. Still nothing announced with any coming. Not even just a simple recolor of Sunstorm on the 52. Have to wait and see.
I'm getting the maketoys coneheads myself but I still don't have theain trio I use to have kbb seekers but hated them thet were a floppy mess so sold them
I like ds the most and was hoping for coneheads and rainmakers
@@tydiriumhanger1320 yeah I can get that if you got the others to want the rest I find that transformation with ds to be crazy over engineered and probably too frustrating for me . At the same time I thought the same about the x-transbots trailer for mensor but once I got it didn't find it to be that bad so maybe it would be the same with ds not sure. I know I'd get them over the masterpiece though
Damn. I'm going to miss TE and DS quite a lot. I'm not giving Takara a single penny for their subpar Mp figures. I guess I'll have to wait until Ft or Xtb to put out their Mp Coneheads years from now.
I’m not giving XTB a dime. They are by far the worst 3P company I’ve ever seen
@@Scro10m I own several Xtb Mp figures and never had any issues apart from a small tab breaking off on their Menasor combiner.
Yes Takara went south with their QC for a while but seem to be getting better I hope
@@Geewunner4life I wasn’t even talking about QC but now that you mention it, I see XTB break more than any other company.
that Mirage and Blaster of them are solid figures. will not get the FT versions as this versions does the job for me
True they are great, already available and half the price of FT
they won't be permanently gone, they will just come up with another wacky name for a company to release them.
Wait what happened to deformation and transform element?
They got in trouble for making the eagle seeker KO and Takara went after them
MEGATRON: I got morons in my team
RAMJET: Well, you chose us coneheads, remember!?
MEGATRON: Sigh!
Ha so true!
I still have my MP-11 coneheads and if there is an mp-52 released I’ll get those too. I try to keep to a “if there is a Takara that’s what is in my collection” rule. Only exceptions are the Moon Studio Trainbots and Acoustic Wave but I also have the Takara versions.
Those Takara ones do look great already and I wonder how new ones base on mp52 would look
I know this will be tin-foily hat type of talk. But the shutdown makes me think that Takara will be coming up with a redesign of their coneheads next. Their only viable competition has just been shut down. The coneheads have always been a retool of the seeker mold, and if the seeker mold they're gonna be using is the 2.0, and considering the amount of kibble that coneheads have, that better be a sturdy and stable retool.
Seems Takara would have already panned for this retool from day one seems to be taking them a while to get these coneheads out
Also the Maketoys cone heads will go perfectly anyways
They would work as Maketoys is bigger than Takara and love that paint
@@tydiriumhanger1320 i have the only one they made so far. Dirge. Looks good next to the ds
😥 I havent gotten my Thundercracker and Skywarp yet..
Well MAKETOYS need to Come out with theirs Conehead Seekers
They know there is a market and they would sell. The longer they wait the less desired they would be and those should have been out years ago
No coneheads, im still expecting they making the rainmakers
Why not that mold is great and the colors of the rainmakers would not require any new tooling
@@tydiriumhanger1320 gone the same road as Maketoys? After making their seekers.
Toyworld because the cone tip is part of the jet
The TE prime is actually better than MP44.
So why are Transform Element and Deformation Space gone? Their products sold very well by all accounts. I loved TE products, really sad if they are truly gone.
HasTak has approached them because of their seeker KOs.
@@TheReincarnatedDeath Interesting. Though technically they are not KOs they are 3rd party original designs. KOs literally steal the same exact parts/moulds/boxes/etc. Guessing they released theirs too close to the same time Takara was releasing their version.
People are saying they made the Eagle Seeker KO and that got them in trouble but why even make a product that competes with their bread and butter!?!
Deformation space is not gone, def space is transforming on and on
It will really suck if they don't make the coneheads, DS was really getting to be my favorite company. I will get ko's of the Takara coneheads if DS is really done but I hope I don't have to.
TE made 2 molds and DS made 2 molds and I hope they return in a different name
I'll wait for the Takara Coneheads unless another company makes something unbelievably good. I wasn't a fan of the Deformation Space Seekers for a number of reasons and even if they stayed around to make the Coneheads i'd probably pass on them. I haven't seen any other Seekers beyond Takara's that I like so i'll likely just wait if I can. I just worry Takara will take a long time to make them.
I am shocked Takara has not milked that mold with coneheads and rainmakers by now
It will come back with another name.
I also hope for that
Told you
Yep but still sad about it
Mike we’re screwed
Ha it feels that way right now
Good morning everyone
Happy Friday
Hate to see DS And TE go. I was never a fan of the cone heads. I would pick them up if DS or another company made them to the similar scale at the DS seekers.
Coneheads have always felt second tier to me also
I thought I had the playback speed at 1.25
Sorry but DS is done because "trust me" doesn't really work. This is the only video I've seen saying anything about them being gone. TE isn't gone either btw.
I stick with official since I know it will be a homogeneous look and the company won't disappear before the set is done. Knowing takara, a 2.0 is bound to be around the corner
True, but they will suck.
Seems like they should have already put out some pics of coneheads so wonder what the hold up is with Takara
They will wait to copy takara coneheads then come out
I will go the KO route with Takara because I still hope for some form of DS coneheas. As for how they redesign to get the cone that will be interesting
I really like Transform Element and Deformation Space. If there will be no DS coneheads, I won't feel too left out. Those characters never really had much personality in the cartoon. The original three seekers had more more defined personalities simply from having more screen time. I am not buying Takara's seekers, they are too bulky on the jet bottom, too limited in articulation and too unstable. I was hoping to see more from this company, I have purchased all their products so far. Great Optimus Prime with no backpack.
What too bulky limited articulation u can't be serious right, do u even own any mp-52 mold cause if u did u wouldn't be saying any of that I personally think ur basing ur opinion off of videos cause what u said couldn't be further from the truth, look the bottom that u claim bulky is subjective,and the articulation is what sets this figure apart from d.s and any other company point blank he has double jointed knees and elbows, head articulation is crazy,butterfly joints, ab-crunch, feet that articulate front to back with a rocker(d.s doesn't have that)waist swivel would've been nice(it wasn't included for a reason)but I still can get an iron-man pose without and nobody can front that with the waist swivel on d.s it breaks up the sculpt and it looks ugly and let's not get into their Prime I had him and I sold him cause of NO paint on a mp figure and beyond limited articulation I bought the mp-44 cause it superior in every way and nobody cares about the backpack because no one poses their figures with their back facing forward...ultimately none of takaras figures are worth the ridiculous asking price imo starscream ain't worth $275 that I paid when he 1st came out and Mp-44 ain't worth $400-$530 that they're asking for now even with all those accessories,but to base ur opinion off of a video and not actually have the figure in hand idk bro I can't do that oh and I'm not a takara fanboy at all...ima Fanstoys fanboy 💪🤣🤣🤣👍
@@asaphmartinez4225 That's a lot of words, man. I'm not buying anything without waist swivel. I love FansToys too but their aerialbots do not have waist swivel, so I'm not buying them either.
@@captaincid6488 🤣👍,that makes 2 of us
I think the DS has a better design and taller than Takara but I really had no issues with my Seekers from Takara. TE and DS have made great versions of every figure so far
Is everything ok? Why are you yelling? ;-)
I will be fine when I get my DS coneheads LOL
@@tydiriumhanger1320 This should help ruclips.net/video/JwUrdQvNN0o/видео.html
Glossy paint doesn't make a figure feel premium, paint makes them feel premium. Plain plastic is what feels cheap.
Yep thin plastic does make figures feel cheap but a good coat of shiny paint makes them present well
They have gone? Shame. Still, they will come back under another name.
Good riddance. Their starscream was useless and was inferior to MP-52, They could have used their R&D time to give us something we NEED, like sideswipe or datsun bros.
TE also waisted their opportunities, Mirage was nice but he was super flawed, tones of QC Issues. we all knew FT mirage was coming so designing one thats going to be outdated fairly soon wasent a good idea.
Maketoys is just, they need to stop. their seekers are GARBAGE, i almost bought then before MP-52 Was announced, but i went with takara due to accuracy. the only thing decent they're doing is generic seekers, but that SHOULD be done with the 52 Mold.