Miter Saw Stand/Planer Station With Rotating Top
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- This is a video tour and some of the details of a miter saw stand/planer stand for my new Makita sliding compound miter saw and Dewalt thickness planer. It has a rotating top so I can have two tools mounted on it to conserve space in my shop. It also "folds" up and is on wheels so I can put it place and store it easily in my garage workshop. As I mentioned in the video, you can download a SketchUp drawing here:
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If you have any questions or comments, I would love to hear them, so please leave a comment.
Guy this is the very best stand I've ever seen, bar none.
I am amazed at the intelligence of the you tube community of wood workers. Ur design is extremely amazing.
+Jason Herron Thanks Jason!
I appreciate that you gave us fixed camera positions so we could absorb what we were seeing. You didn't fill your video with drilling and sawing. Why do some guys do that? We watched your video to learn what you did and didn't have to wait to the last 10 seconds to see the project. Thumbs up, guy.
I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
This is a very nice station. Best design I’ve seen on these so far.
I started my wood working in 1957. In my adult life, I've worked with and for engineers in the elevator industry, agricultural implement industry, the auto industry and even the Apollo project. I don't impress easily but I have to say, you've impressed me. I'll 'borrow' some of your ideas for my new miter saw station. I don't need a fold down module, just mobile.
Wow! Thanks for the kind words Jim! Have fun with your build!
Very clever and beautifully executed. I have great respect for craftsmen who pay attention to both detail and aesthetics of tools and jigs built for themselves.
Thanks A.G.M.! There are still a few things after I built it that I don't particularly like, however they are small annoyances more than anything else. Used it today as a matter of fact.
..."still a few things.....that I don't particularly like": The motto of all true artists!
It's true about miter saws and fine woodworking but that Makita is the exception to the rule. Hands down the best miter saw out right now when it comes to accuracy. You sir have convinced to to put my miter and planer on a flip top. Excellent work man.
Thanks Tom. I had a problem with the fence not being able to adjust enough to make it square to the blade. I ended up removing the two two screws closest to the blade on the fence and just using the two set screws on the outside of the fence. This gave me enough play to get it square. It took me a while, but I finally got it square. Took me over an hour! But it was worth it, as it is dead nuts square now. I found when doing this, patience is a virtue....
Looks very more stable than made with plywood sides that creates racking..... great job..... may need to use your plan......
I am impressed! I also like everything in my shop to be on casters, large, strong, easy rolling ones. I like the fold up extensions, too. You really have me thinking now. I have limited space and I am always looking for ideas. Thanks Guy.
Thanks. There are no other plans than the Sketch Up file I have posted. If you download Sketch Up and open the file, you can get all the dimensions and the details for the stand to build your own. Have Fun!
The adjustable legs on the extension tables are a neat idea.
+ishortland Thanks! Hey worked very well.
I started building a table similar to this for the Bosch Miter Saw but this is WAY better! I would have paid for the plans but being on Sketchup is great! Thanks for the video and the great bench! Can’t wait to build this! Plus I got the Kreg stop system yesterday!!!
By far the best design I've seen for securing and aligning the rotating surface. I need to build one to mount a Dewalt DWS780/DW735X miter saw/planer combo. Thanks for posting!
+dakotamax2 Thanks!
Nice. you covered the 2 most important details repeatability and accuracy!
Thanks Andrew!
OMG, you didn't let the blade come to a full and complete stop before raising it!!! Lol Great video. I always get a bit depressed when I see these videos because people either have a devoted workshop or a garage. I have neither, just a carport and a back porch.
Great Job on the flip top. You took it to another level
Thanks James!
Absolutely great. I clicked on your video as soon as I saw the flip top with wings! My initial thoughts were “there is no way he’s taken repeatable registration into account!” Your design for this piece of the project is fantastic; subscribed.
What a great project, I'm going to have to have a think about whether I can use something like this in my new shop when it's built. My first thought was that the pivots would be too weak but I see from other comments that they are holding up fine, goes to show how much we over engineer things.
nice project.... i see sundry ideas to be apply for myself... thanks for share.
You went into a lot of detail and care in the build of this cart. I was looking at the portacube str 8000. Then I thought about seeing who made it already. Honestly, these people probably look to builders like you. Then a mechanical engineer draws it out, patents it and now have it for sale.
Well done! I liked your video and planer/mitersaw setup and your garage workshop.
Dam Guy. I was going to build a miter saw table but after seeing your table, I quite. You do amazing work. Maybe I'll try later.
Excellent design. Thanks for the free SketchUp download, amazingly generous of you.
very nice. The planer and miter saw do space rob. I am in a two car shop as well. Only in the winter though. Summer the garage is mine. No way the wife will give it up in the winter(about 3 months). I am close to done with my 12 inch Milwaukie though. It seems to want to cut at 44 and 88 only. The shooting board is a must. Adjusting is just too much boring work. I now use my makita track saw and festool rails for cross cuts over 8 inches. I am thinking of switching to a 7/half inch makita miter saw for far greater accuracy with the smaller blade or the Nobex pro miter box. Leaning towards the nobex. Pretty slick miter box. Can cut crown pretty easily. no airborne dust produced either. Blade cuts quick.
Well done, nice execution on the build.... Great idea on the key and shims....
Great workmanship..... Very well done! Keep up the great work and videos.
SuperDusty111 Thanks Super Dusty!
Really nice build and great review. Thanks heaps for the sketchup file. Much appreciated. One of the very few builds I really wanted to see the step by step build video. Oh well. Thanks anyway. Well done.
Thanks Barry!
Really nice for some one who doesn't have much room in work shop. Glad to see you bought a real mitre saw, that makita is a awsome saw, I own a LS1216L
love it. To bad you didn't buy the makita 2012 NB way better planer then cation Dewalt. Would of looked better too!
very clean job. i've appreciated so much. i've a meter saw standing station, overwise i should try your wonderful solution. thanks for video. greetings.
Cool, im in the process of setting up my garage. Just moved to a new house and was planning on keeping my truck outside and didn't think of setting things up to park inside the garage. I could use some pointers. Thanks
There's a link in the description. You may have to hit the "Show More" button to see it.
I just want to say excellent job on the video. Good quality video and great job explaining. I want to build one of these soon. Thanks!
Nice build and design! You've given me some great idea's.Thanks for the video.
Τέλειο, το καλύτερο που έχω δει στο δίκτυο. Θα προσπαθήσω, αν και δεν πιστεύω να καταφέρω να το κάνω!!! :)
The plan does in fact show what you are describing. However when I did build the top, I just ended up sandwiching MDF in the middle with two hardwood strips on each side. The dowel was simply fit into a hole about 2" deep into the sides, then a 1" piece of wooden dowel rod inserted through the side, then into the rotating top. I hope I am describing it so you understand!
Nice idea and i'll apply to my own mitre saw.thanks.
Glad you found some inspiration!
How do you pull out or remove your saw's movable part of the fence when you need to make bevel cuts? I've got to pull my Dewalt fence out about 10" to remove. So far it looks like I'd have to remove the 5 x 8 board supporting the fence, remove the saw fence and reinstall and recalibrate OR design it where just loosen and lower the 5 x8 board so that the vertical part of the fence ( 2-1/4") drops out of the way to leave room to remove the saw fence. Either way I'd have to recalibrate. Probably not a big deal. Appreciate your thoughts.
Impressive design! I'm considering building one to hold a miter saw and a Dewalt DW735 planer in my small shop. But I didn't see any flip-top carts in your shop tour videos (2018 & 2019). Do you still use this? If not, why? And if you do, what would you do differently in this design if building it today?
Did you change from this to the one in the “2018 shop tour” setup because you wanted a vac built into the bottom? I noticed the side supports are also different on the later one. Just curious which parts of each one you prefer. Thanks.
I like the latch design. Good job.
Top idea! Been looking for ways to save space.
Thank you! I'm a photographer! And need this, seeing I make things for Mounting my photos and trimming my Matt board.
Nice flip cart! If you were to turn your plainer 90 degrees and adjust its height to match your wings you could them for infeed/ out feed tables, may need to design a fence that will fold flat though, but worth some thought.
Nice work. I plan on making this for my router and planer. Thanks for the great idea
Thanks Michael!
Did you ever make this? seems like a unique combo
Any reason you didn't turn the planer 90 degrees and raise it to use the wings as in feed and out feed tables? Would probably reduced snipe and made it easier to do long pieces than using the standard tables for that planer
Excellent idea.
I thought that too but it's probably not worth risking throwing off the miter saw. That Makita can cut perfect angles on any crown molding over and over again. There are other ways to reduce snipe.
All he needs is a piece of 1/4 inch plywood that goes the full length in-out. Put a piece of scrap under the infeed side and done.
@@jwill9877 That is some nonsense, why would it throw off the mitre saw? Just align it all properly so they both match up. In addition to snipe, (regardless of other measures that can be taken 🙄), if you're planing something long you'll want in/outfeed support anyway. Missed opportunity, but understandable if he just didn't want to add complexity to planning the build.
@@csn583 because that's the miter saws fence. Pieces of wood hitting it and sliding across it will eventually throw it off
Hi ,
it's a great idea, it is very convenient , I would like to doing the same ! Very very good job GuysWoodshop !
Thanks!
Really fantastic
I would think that shifting the planer 90 degrees would allow you to use your side supports to eliminate any snipe
Very impressive
You have great tools and space savers
oh well enjoy buddy. It's a good pass time being in the shop, being productive.
that's brilliant! I did something similar with my drill press on one side and grinder on the other inside a metal shop stand, but without using a rotating mechanism... my setup is incredibly heavy and I struggle to switch between them by myself. Maybe this will be my next piece of shop furniture
Very nice and well thought out. Love the detail - you're a true craftsman
Wow! You're not kidding about the weight of those machines! I'm looking to build a rotating table for my bench grinder and a tool-sharpening station so precision and weight of the machines won't be a big issue for me. Nonetheless, your video was quite useful and gave me a few ideas. Thanks for posting.
+Captain Ron Thanks Ron! I'm glad it helped you with your build!
Good Job. Clean build
Thanks!
Nice build!! You’ve got a working mind!!
I have had to adjust things every now and then, but what power tool that get used doesn't? The saw has been great, and I would highly recommend it.
This design is the closest to ideal in my opinion goes further than and cost a lot less than the Bora Portamate. I was wondering if I can get away with using just one t nut or threaded insert and knob at the vertical adjustment of the wings at the hinge?
Very well done, congratulations are in order.
Looks great. Any thoughts on making plans available for purchase? The sketch seems a bit vague for most of us here! Would be willing to purchase.
Very good idea! I was going to have a long counter for my chop saw.
Now, not so much i think.
Witam dobry projekt i super wykonanie pozdrawiam cie serdecznie
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In sketchup, you show the posts and rails as 3 glued up pieces of wood (7/8, 3/4, 7/8). Did you glue them and then machine them for the bridle tenon and mortise? Or did you carfully glue up 2 7/8" boards with a shorter or longer 3/4" board in between? The former would be the usual but I wondered if you did the latter. BTW, the sketchup file is great for taking apart your design and getting measurements.
Thanks Steve. The posts are douglas fir 2x4 glued together and then planed to the final dimension. I then cut the bridle joints with the bandsaw.
nice build, I'm collecting ideas before I launch my 1 1/2 garage workshop, this was really helpful. I plan to do a mitre saw flip with a chop saw opposite... arghh I know (not 100% woodworking) but they could both benefit from the extension rails, thanks for sharing
Great vid, great stand, only one challenge may be with flipping it back and forth between the saw and planer may cause a bit of wear in the dowel pins. too bad you could have not received some bearings for that job otherwise it is perfect.
Before the shims are added to each side of the top, it looks like the only thing preventing side-to-side racking are the lag screws attaching the base to the sides. Did you consider just using a front and rear rail to tie the sides together? Or do you think your design would produce less side-to-side racking?
Steve, The 3 1/2 posts and how the bottom is attached to the base is rock solid, and there is no racking whatsoever. Any rails might also prohibit the top and whatever tools attached to it from spinning. Good question!
very nice use of space. Did you considered rotating the planer 90 degrees? obviously would add more design challenges, but having built-in in feed and out feed table would be nice. Thanks for the video.
Sean Crowley Thanks Seas. Yes, I did think about it, and I have never really had a need for infeed/outfeed tables, so it wasn't a consideration. It's a good idea though!
I'd like to buy you a drink for the eye bolt tip. Ingenuity++. Thanks!
+Aaron DC mediA Thanks Aaron. Unfortunately I cant take credit for it. It was in a build from Shop Notes magazine that I stole the idea from.
+GuysWoodshop Any chance you can direct me to the article on the eye bolt latch?
dakotamax2 Man, it's been a long time ago. I would do a search for a flip top stand on the Woodsmith website.
Your stand looks very good, I think I would a 5/8 drill for the pivot point and flange mounted bearings. I need to mount the DW735 planer , your locking system great idea
James
Very nice job of it all. I also like to over-engineer the heck out of various projects too. I have not taken a look at your design plans, nor have I read all of the comments yet, but off hand, my only concern is the dowel pivot. I would think that if it were me, to help eliminate the issue of it being a wear point on the movable part, I'd want to sleeve it with a bushing of some sort, maybe even a short piece of copper pipe as a bushing... The dowel itself would be easy enough to change, but the end grain of the table that spins on it, will eventually be worn down, taxing your accurate repeatability. A copper or brass bushing would help extend the life of that joint... Just a thought from a warped mind.. :-) Otherwise, a very good, well thought out project that is a 'tool' in itself...
+Ernie Zimmer Hey Ernie. The dowel pivot was never much of an issue. But I do really like your ideas on it. Thanks for the comment and I hope that it will help someone that decides to build this!
great design-nice job looks great
Great job engineering the table but the basics of the tool (miter saw) will help you keep your precision of your cuts closer than anything else...A zero clearance throat plate and a zero clearance fence. Both very basic tools and a MUST HAVE for precision woodworking.
Thank you for sharing this great project
Did you ever think of mounting the planer the other way so the flip up supports could be an extension pf the planner shelves? My guess is the miter saw fence would be in the middle of the planner shelf. Oh well I guess you can't have everything. Thanks for all the great ideas.
I did think of that in the design process. However I have my old faithful Dewalt planer extension tables set pretty well. I can plane 6' boards on it with very little snipe. So in the end it was a non issue. Hope you can use a few of the ideas to build your own!
Thanks. I was building a bench top for my son in law and thought I would run section through my planer. I set up a saw horse with a board clamped to it to support the out feed. You would have laughed. It was 2x4 on edge glued together. First I think it was too heavy as it stopped part way through. I pulled it the rest of the was and then knocked over the saw horse. It looked like woodworking with the three Stooges. Finally finished the bench top Christmas Eve with a belt sander. Finishing late Christmas night, another Ferguson tradition up held Ha ha
Love it. I have that same Makita miter saw. I can't seem to get it straight to get the fence square to save my life. I got the bevel zeroed in but it seems like the fence piece seemed to be machined with too much play. I'm curious if you found the same issue with the the piece that has thumb screws and little allen set screws. It seems like I can get either the left or right side set to 90 but never both at the same time.
Great video thank you for putting this video together love the design
Regards
Steve UK
I'm sure you have your reasons for choosing those tools to attach to that flip-top.
Another choice would be to swap the mitersaw for a disc sander or an orbital sander or something else. You mentioned the mitersaw needs a stable fence and table to keep the accuracy of the cuts, so with all the design features that you incorporated into that flip-top cabinet, it still could result in inaccurate cutsif you ard building something that requires all the dimensions to be right on.
I'm not suggesting that what you have there doesn't work, it's just that you had to do a lot to achieve consecutive accurate cuts.
In addition, I'd like to express my excitement for buying a brand new DW735X yesterday for $318.75....when they go for $600.
It was the only one on clearance and i was lucky enough to grab it.
What about when you want to make a cut where tilting the saw is required? It looks like you’d have to remove the top part of the metal fence on the saw. Is that the case?
This the perfect shop build, as a new woodworker with minimum space, I've been looking for a way to put the two tools on portable flip stand. thank you
Thanks Tony!
Thanks for the reply I've been off and on about the saw so I like to get the long term opinion from real users. again great stand very well done.
I can't make out how you did the bridle joint with the larger piece on the top of the sides. It looks like 2x4 for the vertical and bottom sections, but the top piece is much wider. And yet the bridle joint doesn't go down the length of that top piece. How is this constructed?
Bill, I wish I could wholly take credit for the design. It is kind of a mash up of the various designs I have seen on the web and in magazines. I just looked at what suited my purposes best and then borrowed design elements from others. Just used it this past weekend in both modes, and it work great!
Excellent job. Surprised you didn't use a 1" gas pipe for your pivot point. I'm an EE... you have got to be an ME .... hahahahahaha. You have a new follower. I need and intend to build several of these for my small shop. You gave me a few good ideas and pointers.
Thanks John! I could have used 1" gas pipe if I had it :)
nice setup. The only problem i see is the fence on the miter saw is in the way of making bevel cuts, and the fence cannot be slid out of the way because of the extensions.
Killer project. Very nice. So I guess I'm going to have a bash at making one. The 3/4" rod you used for your pivots....How long are they? How do they terminate in the side pieces? I would assume they are a snug fit in the top and a bit looser in the sides?
Any thoughts would be great.
Thank you for the excellent Sketchup drawing.
Mark
They are just dowels about 6" long that go through the frame and a few inches into the top. I was concerned about the strength at first, but after two years, it still works great. Thanks for the nice comment and good luck on your build!
excellent execution!
AWESOME!!! I LOVE THE WHOLE IDEA.
You should actually sell these! great job guy!
Afternoon GS. I'm almost done my table and I wondering what you held your equipment down with. It looks like regular lag bolts. If so do you find these are strong enough? I have a Dewalt 735 and I have to spin it 90°. The end pieces are to high now and I'll have to raise the planer 1 1/2" to clear the out feed tables. 6' carriage bolts won't do. Any thoughts???
I have the same planer now, and I am familiar with the wheel to change height on the planer. I just put 2 pieces of 3/4" ply on top of each other, bolted that down, then bolted the planer to the ply using carriage bolts. It just clears the side now so I can spin the hand wheel.
GuysWoodshop
Thanks mate.
Mark
nice project / nice video and explanation
Loved the bench! Everything seems well thought out. The OCD side of me loves your attention to detail. I've been trying to come up with a mobile set-up for a miter station that was compact & has multiple configurations. Also having size constraints in a mobile set-up (job site & transportation vehicle for example) makes a multipurpose & compact set up essential. I think your out feed set up will work well for me. Its small size & adjustability should lend itself well to being broken down, stored & transported. I do have two observations/questions. Did you consider attaching & hinging the legs/supports to either the table or the out feeds thus removing the step of attaching them during set-up? Secondly, I like the way you incorporated the additional extension to the left side of the fence, however, in an effort to increase the capacity do you think it would work using multiple rather than fixed stop locations? When we're running 16' stock like base & crown I need more out feed than you have. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Excelent job....!!! Thanks for sharing it...!!!!
Very impressive!
One thing I see with all these flip top cabinets is they have gences for miter saw, but the thickness planner is set so you cannot use the fence to support your boards when planning them.
Wow great job
This is first class best one I have seen, I have been looking into the porta mate 8000, but am concerned about wobble, May I ask how much cost and time you have in building this table, thanks for the video. I would buy one if you sold them
Man, it's been a few years and that stand is long gone now. I think I may have put 10-15 hours into building it.
@@GuysShop it was a work of art, do you think I could build one for $300.00 or less
Hi. I am going to try and build this project but for the life of me, I can't find where the "notes" section is to get the sketchup plans. I would really appreciate some guidance. Thanks.
Exactly what I'm looking to build, but I'm planning to mount the planer rotated 90° so I can use the wings as infeed and oufeed. Haven't quite worked out the issues with the fenceon the wings - will be in the way for planer. Great ideas there though.
+Greg Wyatt Thanks Greg!
Paul Jenkins (The WoodKnight) had a really nifty stop system to level the top of his flip top cart that is worth looking at
Greg Wyatt I was just thinking the exact same thing.
can use piano hinges to allow you to flip the fence up (would need a stop to maintain 90 for miter) and then be able to lay flush for in/out feed for planer
Easiest way would be to eliminate the fence completely. Think more along the lines of a sliding stop that slides in a groove in the wing. A 90 degree fence isn't really needed since you'd be referencing your material at the stock fence on your miter saw anyway and that is the one that most folks square their saws to.
felicitaciones , buen trabajo y muy ingenioso
Currently no. I do plan on reorganizing my shop very soon, as it is getting a little too crowded. Maybe after I get that complete.