@@MsXizan Holy shit, that was pretty sublime notion. I love this. Tolkien left much up for debate. And you kind of gave me new fuel for this line of thinking and speculations. Thank you Angela!
Old whipper there was a really decent commander. He sees two deserters, and instead of punishing them for a crime that usually carries the death penalty, he feeds them and puts them among his own troops with barely even a harsh word. While making sure to keep close by to stop any repeats. Give this orc a promotion.
At that point Mordor had lost Isengard as an ally and I think the witch king as well, so they kind of needed as many bodies as they could muster. Also I’m pretty sure Sauron doesn’t just kill deserters. He likely just reasserts their slavery.
This makes the Orcs seem much more like people rather than faceless enemies. In the live action movies, there was a similar moment when the Orcs were complaining to each other.
I agree! You almost feel sorry for them because they would rather be almost anywhere else at this point... In the top-down marching scenes (eg 0:27 & 1:02), there's even one Orc who's staring up at the sky and dragging his bundle behind him wearing an expression that screams 'Please end me.'
@@trinefanmel At the end of the day the Orcs are also slaves of the Dark Lord, their destinies are in the hands of Sauron, they are just the cannon fodder of his armies, which must obey or face death, and as Gandalf himself said of Sauron: "I pity even his slaves."
This is the kind of propaganda Ron DeSantis is trying to push in Florida schools, about slavery. "It was beneficial! They sang about how much they loved being enslaved!!!"
During basic training in the late 90's we got it a LOT of trouble for using this as a marching cadence when allowed to march without immediate supervision. It was SO worth it :)
The entirety of LOTR jammed into a single animated film, cutting away precious scenes, characters and story beats, and they choose to leave in the jazzy slave march song of the orcs? I love it
@@user-zg5ey5xo9i Severin, Do you know what movie this is from? I though it was the Ralph Bakshi Movie from 78, but then I saw it, and it has a wholly different style, and ends at the battle of Helm's deep. I'd love to see this one too
RUclips was founded in 2005 (bc of JT and Janet Jackson's superbowl performance a year before). This was published two years later. Not saying your wrong on how epic this song is, it's been in my mind since the 90s, but that's because of VHS not RUclips.
Apparently people who don't have English as a first language pretend they only speak English to fuck with their own kind. Its like being in a foreign country or around foreigners who think you look enough like somebody from their country and think you are bullshitting them when you say you don't speak the language. so i guess he assumed the similar thing here
Im more surprised they got found so that means when they march they have orcs or uruks with a whip scanning every nook n crany and behind every rock n boulder.
I honestly think Tolkien would have whole heartedly approved of this song. Music and poetry are sprinkled throughout The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings books and it would have gone well along side "Down, Down to Goblin Town" which is a song he created and wrote into 'The Hobbit'.
Tolkien describes everything the dark faction has in language, culture and culinary as foul. This music has a self depreciating humor that's too high spirit for Mordor.
He would have loved it. It's sad how this fandom is dominated by Elitism. People wanna brag about how their love for LOTR is more authentic than others lol screw what that old dead guy thinks, play Shadow of Mordor!
The fact that hobits can be mistaken for orcs and that this movie, while not selling it perfectly, still manages to convey it fairly well like when Samwise is stamping and singing is really interesting.
Orcs & goblins ARE the same thing. But Tolkien says orcs are closer to man than elf. And since hobbits are strongly related to humans, there is room for theories...@@Dolguldur93
@vazak11 we didn't care about all that back then. This Cartoon-Movie was a MASTERPIECE and also ENTERTAINING to kids AND adults. We didn't CARE about all the "diversifying details" and shit back then. A good movie was just A GOOD MOVIE! Not a bunch of ppl whining about what's so "offensive" about it or how "it sends the wrong message". Good movie were JUST THAT to us... GOOD MOVIES!
You ever heard of old slave songs? Which obviously this is very reminiscent of lyrically. Also they're saying that the whip is making them find a way to do what they need to do so I don't think whoever's cracking it has a problem.
*Frodo:* I'm physically and mentally exhausted. Every step I take is one of pain and suffering. I fear I might soon collapse if things keep going on like this. *Sam:* Personally, I'm not a big fan of their music, or their food.
I mean, I see where you're coming from. But they also start fighting allies at the drop of a hat with no care as to who or why. I don't think they are as willing to not fight as they proclaim in their song...
@@kappasquid If you'd been marching all day and someone used a racial slur towards you and pushed your leader over, I'm sure you'd be quite angry too lol.
It seems the species war has been going on for some time. The moment was already tense, he just escalated it. Also he did it so they dont die when they're soon discovered and ultimately to save the world
Kids today don't realize that back in my day, if us old nerds wanted to watch anything adapted from Tolkien, it was the Rankin & Bass Hobbit TV special, then the Ralph Bakshi Lord of the Rings movie that only went through the end of The Two Towers, then back to TV for the Rankin & Bass Return of the King special. Giving us things like "Frodo of the Nine Fingers", "Where There's a Whip There's a Way", "Far Over the Misty Mountain Cold", and other such classics. Now I need to go defend my lawn, there's orcs on it again. Off! Off I Say!
I just realised that when Frodo says “I can’t continue” and sam says “I’d rather be singing a hobbit song”, sam thinks Frodo means he can’t continue with the song 😂
The line where he says ''We don't wanna go to war today! But the Lord of the Lash says: "nay, nay, nay!" it breathes humanity (elventish) into them. It mean they aren't all mindless berserkers that think about killining 100% of the time. They want to relax, they want to have fun some times.
@@mouseburger4183 Hey! Ho! To the bottle I go! To heal my heart and drown my woe! Rain may fall, or wind may blow, and there still be... many miles to go!
"You're flat, Gorbag. You and your whole flea-bitten band are flat, and I won't have it!" "Flat? hi! hoi! Shagrat says we're flat, boys! Well I says he's been sharp the whole time!"
Rhythmic whipping is actually a strategic thing with stuff like marching and labor. Ever go on a run and start focusing on the rhythm of your breath? In a march, it keeps them in constant movement and in coordination. Its like a twisted, evil drumset.
“We don’t wanna go to work today, But the lord of the cash says NAY NAY NAY, We’re gonna work all day, all day, all day Where there’s a wage there’s a way”
@@coolkid9967 It’s a song parody man. I wrote it because jobs often make me feel like these orcs marching off to war reluctantly. We are the slaves of the dark lord’s horde, and the dark lord is daddy dollar.
The Jackson movies paid homage to it even, in the extended cut they include the part where they follow the orcs around, and just before they get caught by the marching troupe you can hear their footsteps and they mimic the sound of the drums here.
What they were doing was making a catchy song humanizing a fantasy race. But really, the people on drawing comparisons in the last hundred years are kidding themselves. This is for more relatable to feudal societies and "lords" forcing peasants into armies.
Fifteen Birds from the Hobbit movie. Technically goblins, but I believe they're adjacent, at least in terms of LOTR... Something about goblins being a sub-species of orc, if I remember.
@@PWaldo-lw2ds Another fine example. Songs and speeches (at least with Eowyn) may be among the only things Rankin/Bass did better than Peter Jackson, but they're enough to recommend watching *both* versions of the Return of the King and (especially) the Hobbit!
I’d like to imagine he just had a clip on his phone of this song and played it everytime someone questioned what sound effect to use for anything in that show.
"They will tell stories of the brave Frodo. The one who took the ring to Mount Doom and destroyed it." "Don't forget about Sam. Frodo wouldn't have made it without Sam." I love how in this cartoon, we see how true those words are. Sam is so good at realizing the truth here, at keeping Frodo in line. He is a great hero, even if he doesn't think so.
dobadobadooo It would be that the tone of the song does not fit with lord of the rings let alone this scene. The song seems to be about not wanting to go to war but the orcs live for war.
I always felt the Orcs liked the spoils of war and were fine with in-fighting but didn't have a preference either way for the act of War itself. Uruks on the other hand, they existed as machines of war.
JRR Tolkien himself once said that were SOME orcs that didn't live to fight. There where a few groups here and there that engaged in art or agriculture. The orcs in this scene comprised some of of those one-off orc groups, hence, they didn't want to go to war.
@@toxicbob2000 Hey I heard MANY years ago a song by the goblins when they take Bilbo hostage, where the orcs n goblins have Russian accents and sing a weird song, I think it was a BBC production... you got any leads?
This particular song was made up for this movie, but it is based on what actually happened in the books. However, orcs do in fact sing. They do so in The Hobbit (in the book, not just the movie). "Fifteen Birds in Five Fir Trees"
As a little girl, I grew up listening to this in the animated movie. Years later, watching The LOTR movies, I waited for this song to start playing when Sam and Frodo were hiding from the orcs. A bit of an unrealistic expectation.
To be fair, if "where there's a whip, there's a will", and if "where there's a will, there's a way", then surely "where there's a whip, there's a way"?
NeoGenMike Tschida ya that would be hilarious, but Tolkein did not write this song, it was written specifically for this animated cartoon based on what the Orc taskmaster was screaming. He was saying something along the lines of "Where there's a whip, there's a will". So i'm sure there would be copyright issues
Because it's stupid! Sure, I'll admit that it's catchy, but they would be so less intimidating in the Peter Jackson version. And really, could you see orcs, Sauron's foot soldiers, creatures that live for war, killing, and cruelty, singing this song? Really. In this version, yes, but in Peter Jackson's version, really?
Is this the cartoon's way of humanizing the Orcs since Tolkien stated that one of his regrets was that he didn't give the Orcs much sympathy and that they were treated like slaves that often didn't get a choice rather being evil.
I've always found some of the most interesting parts of the Lord of the Rings is when the orcs get to talk and share some of their thoughts, like when merry and Pippen are overhearing the three different groups of orcs bickering (Urak-hai from Isengard, Black Uruks from mordor and the smaller orcs from the Mines of Moria), when Sam overhears Gorebag and Shagrat, or in gorgoroth when Sam and frodo overhear the large soldier and the tracker.... It makes the orcs more than mindless drones and I think it would have been cool to hear a lot more of that and for them to be "humanized" a bit more... Like when Gorbag refers to frodo being left for dead as a "typical elf trick", it implies they have a morality that looks down upon leaving a wounded comrade
@@post-leftluddite You are right. I love parts where Pippen and Merry recieve some orc luqiud and this work same as lembas or elves drink and make them able to run with same speed and stamina as orcs. Also black ointment on injury and all this stuff. Also little dialog where some orc talk about desertion. This is problem with Tolkien his world is so much black and white. If you are interested in some stories where creature are in main role and are taken more seriously I recommend Goblin trilogy.
My favorite part is 2:45- Frodo says "I can't continue!" like the burden of the ring is weighing heavily on him and Sam's response is basically "Yeah, I know, this music sucks." What?
@@angham3829 do you people ever stop? we are talking about frog people from an interperuitation of writings from an insane person who whent through a world war.
@@Franky566 He / She isn't really hurting anyone. Also, you gotta admit, a single Bible reply takes up far less space than a 10 year old who ruined a comment section with 6 replies that say nothing except "E" or a heap of keyboard mash.
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@Cole Tynan oh ok thx, I'm living in a third world country or "camp" oh hell idk? What I'm supposed to call it, but the conditions are extremely poor, and I was just making sure you werent a real life invisible slave driver. Shu what a relief
Sam: "Kill them! Bone them! Cut them to bits..." Orc: "Smash them! Bash them! Skin them alive!" Sam: "Boil them! Mash them! Put them in a stew!" Orc: "What?" Sam: "What?"
"......and that, son, is why your father never came home again. He was killed by a pack of orcs when a dirty Hobbit goaded them into attacking his battalion....."
@@shinkiro403 Of course they do, we all know how it works in the armies of evil, brain-washing, propaganda, the Men of the East probably don't even know why they're fighting.
@@caletevelen2647 my assertion wasn't actually because of their employer (namely Sauron), more like the arrogant and fantasy-racist attitude a-la-Dragon Age; I would have agreed with you if it was a more recent movie, but both LOTR and this movie were from a time where such stereotypes were played straight: this man seems evil, has no backstory telling us he might not be, therefore he is
@@MortemRex I don't think I see the correlation. Regardless, the real problem is not social justice itself, which isn't a inherently a bad thing, more like the fact that its loudest promoters have an extremist view of it and end up acting like fascists
"Most folk consider orcs to be nothing but barbaric brutes who'd kill ya soon as set eyes on ya, but I tell you, they have one of the most sophisticated musical cultures in the whole of Middle-Earth, with a penchant for intricately weaving together various parts of the vocals so that every part of the choir gets to shine!" - Some tourist's guide to Mordor or something, I dunno
I'm impressed by the orcs sense of harmony. During the chorus, there are two distinct lines/melodies being repeated; one in a lower register and one in a higher register. The choir of Mordor really had it going on.
@@brodielarson9096 Every good fantasy world needs bands of invisible elves or fairy creatures flitting about with Casio keyboards and other instruments. How else is everyone supposed to pick up on cues for battle, or dramatic tension? Eye contact and understanding body language? Pfft!
I grew up with the Peter Jackson films, which came out just as I was finishing reading the books for the first time. I`m very lucky to be just young enough that I have my own mental imagery for LOTR not provided by Hollywood. I knew there were earlier animated films that were not done very well but were entertaining in a campy 70s way, but I never saw them. Now, I`ve fallen into the RUclips rabbit hole. These clips are inspiring me to take a weekend, sit down with some longbottom leaf, if you know what I mean, and give 70s cartoon LOTR a watch.
The Middle Earth Orc Mens' Choir sounds great in this one. I wonder if anyone caught their performance at the Macy's Day Parade a few years ago. Thirty-six people died.
Aragorn knelt down to the floor of the earth, closing his eyes in concentration as he focused on the sound, he heard the distant approaching of those funky tunes. He stood, charging off with his companions, Legolas moving further ahead, hearing the jamming orcs from miles away, "Legolas! What do your elf eyes see?" He called, the elf spoke "They're headed east, They're taking the hobbits to boogietown!"
Развлечения
Visual representation of Amazon warehouse workers.
💀 😂
Deaceased!!!!!
Not according to all the Amazon employees that they allow to post on their social media account for some reason.
@@SukatoKjolen Amazon work conditions say otherwise (to your comment).
@@NA-AN He's joking, saying Amazon only allow positive posts on their acc.
"Where there's a whip, there's a way!" - The anthem of Amazon fulfillment center employees.
Nobody forces them to work there.
@@fjccommish no, just crippling debt and lack of other options in a cut-throat free market economy is keeping them there.
@@neinherman9989 Someone forced them to get into debt?
fjvideo Anyone who’s ever used that argument should have the word “moron” forcefully tattooed onto their forehead.
Wagie wagie, works in cagie.
Military training in Mordor: 10% combat, 5% survival, 85% concert band
“Singing off key, that’s a whipping. Singing out of turn, that’s a whipping. Singing without being whipped, oh you better believe that’s a whipping.”
lol I can hear the Simpsons reference 😂😂 “thats a paddling” 😂😂😂
Jasper Orksly
@@Golden_glow
Disparaging the Boot is a bootable offense
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha hehehehehehehehehehe… ok ok u got me with that line deep breath… oh boy
“What’s your favorite part of lotr?”
“The part where Sam starts a race war”
“The what?”
In the books they're just different groups of orcs, and they begin fighting on their own without any prodding
@Kuku V.2 Hehehehe...
@Kuku V.2 I wholeheartedly agree on both accounts.
Lmfao
@Stock Name Word slave have no connection with Slav's.In original,we ALL we're known as Serbs,not Slav's.
And Tolkien said orcs could not make anything beautiful
Ordinary orcs couldnlt...but the farming Orcs probably could.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
2prize You anime shall not oppress the slavs anymore!
@savage642 peasantry
@@MsXizan Holy shit, that was pretty sublime notion. I love this. Tolkien left much up for debate. And you kind of gave me new fuel for this line of thinking and speculations. Thank you Angela!
Old whipper there was a really decent commander. He sees two deserters, and instead of punishing them for a crime that usually carries the death penalty, he feeds them and puts them among his own troops with barely even a harsh word. While making sure to keep close by to stop any repeats. Give this orc a promotion.
He's also pretty good at keeping rhythm
He’s reached divine understanding that “where there’s a whip, there’s a way”
1980
At that point Mordor had lost Isengard as an ally and I think the witch king as well, so they kind of needed as many bodies as they could muster.
Also I’m pretty sure Sauron doesn’t just kill deserters. He likely just reasserts their slavery.
To a Shtrafbat
This makes the Orcs seem much more like people rather than faceless enemies. In the live action movies, there was a similar moment when the Orcs were complaining to each other.
Or when they "torment" Merry by giving him grog instead of water and they all start laughing at him coughing like mad.
I agree! You almost feel sorry for them because they would rather be almost anywhere else at this point...
In the top-down marching scenes (eg 0:27 & 1:02), there's even one Orc who's staring up at the sky and dragging his bundle behind him wearing an expression that screams 'Please end me.'
I always liked in the books when they give merry and pippin a swig of their Orky spirits.
@@trinefanmel
At the end of the day the Orcs are also slaves of the Dark Lord, their destinies are in the hands of Sauron, they are just the cannon fodder of his armies, which must obey or face death, and as Gandalf himself said of Sauron: "I pity even his slaves."
I remember reading scenes like this in the books
Frodo: help I'm dying I can't continue
Sam: this song is ass
Damn. You just made me dislike Sam, this song is a banger.
Sam focussing on what's important.
Squad leader - Watch me whip.
Troops - Watch me nae nae.
Sam - Bollocks!!
Based samwise
Sam: Also, what's the deal with Orc food?
Well, I guess you could call this an ... ORChestra.
Your comment was... instrumental.
Well played.
I need to aCHOIR a copy of this film.
You get a cookie.
LOL
You guys are so punny.
Never have I seen an group sing so joyously about being whipped and marching all day
Kinky bastards
You’re missing out
Lol. Military cadence is supposed to keep you going past exhaustion.
This is the kind of propaganda Ron DeSantis is trying to push in Florida schools, about slavery.
"It was beneficial! They sang about how much they loved being enslaved!!!"
And all night. And more.
During basic training in the late 90's we got it a LOT of trouble for using this as a marching cadence when allowed to march without immediate supervision. It was SO worth it :)
Awesome
Mozart and Beethoven have been real quiet since this legend dropped
@Shasvin Puvanesvaran bro when? So sad
@Shasvin Puvanesvaran dang. Sad 😪
@@murkyhydra6351 Nah they faked it they both in cuba right now
@@thefutureisnowoldman7653 You sure it's not Argentina?
@Shasvin Puvanesvaran wooosh
The entirety of LOTR jammed into a single animated film, cutting away precious scenes, characters and story beats, and they choose to leave in the jazzy slave march song of the orcs? I love it
That only Return of the King not the whole lotr.
@@user-zg5ey5xo9i Severin, Do you know what movie this is from? I though it was the Ralph Bakshi Movie from 78, but then I saw it, and it has a wholly different style, and ends at the battle of Helm's deep. I'd love to see this one too
@@The1337Duke It's from 'The Return of the King'(1980) made by Jules Bass and Arthur Rankin. The same people did The Hobbit from 1977.
@@user-zg5ey5xo9i Hey thanks, also, I love the fact that you're using the Fuþark for your username,
There's too many songs in this and the orc's look stupid and Man is having a hard time killing these little things?! It's kinda retarded.
The fact that this video was posted during the first full year of youtube is just showing how much of a rad song it is!
Holy shi- I hadn't even noticed how old it was
You just made me feel old
Yeah, it just popped up on my recommendeds, and "17 years ago". Didn't realise RUclips was that old. Makes me feel old... 😶😶
RUclips was founded in 2005 (bc of JT and Janet Jackson's superbowl performance a year before). This was published two years later. Not saying your wrong on how epic this song is, it's been in my mind since the 90s, but that's because of VHS not RUclips.
I love how the orc general musically times the use of his whip
I think the whip is largely for threats and music. He caught Sam and Frodo slacking, and he never laid the whip on them.
This song slaps more than it should considering it's an anthem of forced labor
"How was work today?"
"Oh, you know. Our platoon overseer kept cracking his whip and we were singing about it. Want to go out for Italian, tonight?"
Want another slave song that slaps?
ruclips.net/video/mPTCq3LiZSE/видео.html
@@alexm4202 I was hoping to god that would be We All Lift Together, and I was not disappointed
Does bang a bit this tune ngl
Think of the people actually dealing with the forced labor. If you're forced to do it, may as well do it to something catchy.
Frodo: "We're in luck! He thinks we're orcs!"
The orc: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that."
Apparently people who don't have English as a first language pretend they only speak English to fuck with their own kind.
Its like being in a foreign country or around foreigners who think you look enough like somebody from their country and think you are bullshitting them when you say you don't speak the language.
so i guess he assumed the similar thing here
Im more surprised they got found so that means when they march they have orcs or uruks with a whip scanning every nook n crany and behind every rock n boulder.
@@isaiahwolftail867 You gotta have scouts when marching an army, or you will get ambushed and destroyed
That's what happens when you roll a natural 20 on your disguise check.
Yes and why not? It's the least stressful way for him.
I honestly think Tolkien would have whole heartedly approved of this song. Music and poetry are sprinkled throughout The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings books and it would have gone well along side "Down, Down to Goblin Town" which is a song he created and wrote into 'The Hobbit'.
Then again, maybe there is a reason the producers waited until he died before filming this...🤣🤣
Tolkien describes everything the dark faction has in language, culture and culinary as foul. This music has a self depreciating humor that's too high spirit for Mordor.
He would have loved it. It's sad how this fandom is dominated by Elitism. People wanna brag about how their love for LOTR is more authentic than others lol screw what that old dead guy thinks, play Shadow of Mordor!
@@99jean88 the contents of the song itself is just foul tho
@@pharaohsmagician8329Rings of power proved the elitists right.
The fact that hobits can be mistaken for orcs and that this movie, while not selling it perfectly, still manages to convey it fairly well like when Samwise is stamping and singing is really interesting.
I mean in the books they're both similar height and both have those weird ears
they should be dirt as well, and I mean some say that orcs are elfs but corrupted by the dark lord so maybe goblins are hobbits XD
Orcs & goblins ARE the same thing. But Tolkien says orcs are closer to man than elf. And since hobbits are strongly related to humans, there is room for theories...@@Dolguldur93
@vazak11 we didn't care about all that back then. This Cartoon-Movie was a MASTERPIECE and also ENTERTAINING to kids AND adults. We didn't CARE about all the "diversifying details" and shit back then. A good movie was just A GOOD MOVIE! Not a bunch of ppl whining about what's so "offensive" about it or how "it sends the wrong message". Good movie were JUST THAT to us... GOOD MOVIES!
So their boss is cool with them literally singing about how they hate him
Okay with it? He probably ordered them to.
He cool with because he’s whipping them
Better they vent it off in song than conspire against him.
You ever heard of old slave songs? Which obviously this is very reminiscent of lyrically. Also they're saying that the whip is making them find a way to do what they need to do so I don't think whoever's cracking it has a problem.
kinda how chateys are. Like Tom says "better to let em vent" and also play a little to deal with the exhaustion and blisters.
*Frodo:* I'm physically and mentally exhausted. Every step I take is one of pain and suffering. I fear I might soon collapse if things keep going on like this.
*Sam:* Personally, I'm not a big fan of their music, or their food.
The fate of the free world hangs by a thread. Frodo is near death. Sauron's oppressive will dominates all.
Sam: I'd prefer a Hobbit song.
Sam was always the real OG
Sam's best character status continues to endure.
Sam best boi confirmed
Nice pfp
I love how the orcs look absolutely adorable
This animated scene always makes me feel so sympathetic to the poor orcs. The song is also very catchy!
I mean, I see where you're coming from. But they also start fighting allies at the drop of a hat with no care as to who or why. I don't think they are as willing to not fight as they proclaim in their song...
@@kappasquid If you'd been marching all day and someone used a racial slur towards you and pushed your leader over, I'm sure you'd be quite angry too lol.
@@nicholasvellios6555Tired and angry soldiers are quick to violence, not the kind for a battle but for a quick brawl yea
“When the whip is swung with anger, we all sing a banger.”
yes
Nay nay nay.
@@themanonthewall he probably just made it up
- Chris O’ Neil
Justin Phillips 0:24 and 1:24 and 2:29
Maybe if Sauron hadn't been so concerned with making sure his Orcs could sing so well, the war might have gone better
In the words of abridged lord chilled before he died, "Got to style all over our opponents"
Ooooooof
@@benogle4951 apparently “ooooooof” in English is “ooooooof”. Good to know, thanks google.
@@SorowFame nice, it has done that for me too
@@SorowFame actually in Russian it’s ооооооо(being sure to make know)
This being 17 years old really makes this a classic
Samwise just said “Me personally, I wouldn't take that level of disrespect.”
I like the part where samwise starts a race war to escape at the end
It seems the species war has been going on for some time. The moment was already tense, he just escalated it. Also he did it so they dont die when they're soon discovered and ultimately to save the world
Pretty sure it was a joke guys.
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@@Rockstopmotion based
[Speech 100] And you call yourself an Orc?!
[Cannibalism] Damn, you know how good that human general looks?
[Black Widow] Damn, you know how good that human general looks?
@@jozi2272 what about us confirmed bachelor's?
@@jozi2272 Assume the position
[Child at heart] BONE EM!
“We cannot cross. They have taken the road and the sidewalk. We cannot cross…whips, whips in the deep. They are coming.”
😂😂😂 this wins
Kids today don't realize that back in my day, if us old nerds wanted to watch anything adapted from Tolkien, it was the Rankin & Bass Hobbit TV special, then the Ralph Bakshi Lord of the Rings movie that only went through the end of The Two Towers, then back to TV for the Rankin & Bass Return of the King special. Giving us things like "Frodo of the Nine Fingers", "Where There's a Whip There's a Way", "Far Over the Misty Mountain Cold", and other such classics.
Now I need to go defend my lawn, there's orcs on it again. Off! Off I Say!
I just realised that when Frodo says
“I can’t continue” and sam says
“I’d rather be singing a hobbit song”,
sam thinks Frodo means he can’t continue with the song 😂
This is just too good
Clearly Sam has no taste in good music
And mordor is just murder misspelled.
Taking it literally, sure. I could interpret it as Sam trying to keep Frodo's spirits up with a bit of light humor.
He lacks the Orcs singing Skillz🤣
"not enough singing" is definitely my biggest criticism of peter jackson's lord of the rings trilogy
actually a valid criticism... the books are full of poems and songs completely absent in the movies
Fun fact: He actually was gonna put this song in the movie, but decided to cut it.
@@biggle_man i skip all those when i'm reading the book because i can't hear the song, so it is just awkward reading.
They tried it in The Hobbit Movies, made it look too Disney. TLOTR were fine without it
I dont wanna live in a the same world with you. Lotr is very fine without singing
The line where he says ''We don't wanna go to war today!
But the Lord of the Lash says: "nay, nay, nay!" it breathes humanity (elventish) into them. It mean they aren't all mindless berserkers that think about killining 100% of the time. They want to relax, they want to have fun some times.
Yeah most orks were in the mountains doing random things or building before the war began
1980
Dey…dey _don’t always think about killin’?!_ WOT KINDA SAD EXCUSE FOR ORCS ARE DEZE GITS?! ORCS ARE MADE FER FIGHTIN’AND WINNIN’! WAAAAAAAAGH!
@@KrimzonFlygon1 ya right ya git! Nothin' beats a gud krumpin' and stompin'. Oy grot! Get me my Dakka, no not that one the one with MORE Dakka on it!!
This comment got waaaay to less likes @@gasfrommyanusi0i594
This has no right being this good.
“I’d rather be singing a good ol’ hobbit song myself”
You just can’t appreciate good music, Samwise the hipster.
You can keep your fancy ale. You can drink it by the flaggon. But the only brew for the brave and true is down at the green dragon
@@mouseburger4183 Hey! Ho! To the bottle I go! To heal my heart and drown my woe! Rain may fall, or wind may blow, and there still be... many miles to go!
@@davididiart5934 lol I love the lord of the rings community.
The Flaggon with the Dragon, has the pellet with the poison. The Chalice with the Palace, has the brew that is true.
>good
>hobbit song
pick one
Sam knew exactly what he was doing when he started that race war. Just listen to that enthusiasm when he says "this is it!" *He's done this before.*
Well why do you think Elves and Dwarves hate each other?
@@shadowstrider8295 nvm Sauron, the biggest threat to peace on Middle Earth is obviously Sam.
Now I’m imaging Sam being responsible for the 1970s race riots
@@zackkilgore528 Sam orchestrated the Armenian genocide
@@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 that bastard!
"You're flat, Gorbag. You and your whole flea-bitten band are flat, and I won't have it!"
"Flat? hi! hoi! Shagrat says we're flat, boys! Well I says he's been sharp the whole time!"
Underrated comment
Ok, im going to say it. This entire sequence/song is better than the entirety of Rings Of Power.
Facts.
"We're in luck! He thinks we're orcs!"
"Um, I'm standing right here guys. I can hear you."
Lmbo your Killin me bro.....🤣🤣🤣🤣
How do you think he found them in the first place? What is it with characters talking loudly when they're trying to hide from a foe mere yards away?
Well orc aren't that smart
Well, this wasn't a very good movie.
Luck? Good sir, we're gonna be marching with a whole blinking army back to Cirith Ungol, where we started from!
Yeah, so get goin'!
If I was Peter Jackson I would've filmed this for deleted scenes
He has, its in the extended edition. Not exactly like this, but pretty similar.
@@MMadesen yeah I saw that. But I was talking about the song.
Probably during their march to Helm's Deep.
That would have been magnificent
Travis they have a scene where they get mistaken for orcs but sadly no song.
0/10 horrible movie
This song fucking rules so hard for no reason
Over 20 years and I still can't get this damned song out of my head🤯😪
For REAL!
At least the boss is contributing to the beat with his whip.
Rhythmic whipping is actually a strategic thing with stuff like marching and labor. Ever go on a run and start focusing on the rhythm of your breath? In a march, it keeps them in constant movement and in coordination. Its like a twisted, evil drumset.
Where there's a whip there's a way!
He's not going to let a song about how much they hate him get in the way of a funky beat.
Haha, this made me laugh out loud!
Better than my RL Boss.
Frodo, scared stiff - "Omg they're killing each other!"
Sam - "First race war, huh?"
We've had one yet...what about second race war?
@@damnitchloeagain2 "Don't think he knows about Helter Skelter, Pip."
@@damnitchloeagain2 well it wasn't a race war, the orcs that had Frodo just started fighting for Frodo's coat till there were only two left.
No, not first time!
Race war, huh? That would explain where the black hobbits and dwarves went after the second age
The unofficial "Going-to-work-sleep-deprived" national anthem.
“We don’t wanna go to work today,
But the lord of the cash says
NAY NAY NAY,
We’re gonna work all day, all day, all day
Where there’s a wage there’s a way”
The lord of the lash *
Like lashing someone with a whip
@@coolkid9967Não entende piada?
@@coolkid9967 It’s a song parody man. I wrote it because jobs often make me feel like these orcs marching off to war reluctantly.
We are the slaves of the dark lord’s horde, and the dark lord is daddy dollar.
@@jacobkuchavik9367 ohhhhh lol
for we are the slaves to our coorrr perateeee loords
They didn’t have to give this a disco beat. They knew what they were doing.
@Champiness this version of return of the king came out in 1980 when disco was slowly dying out.
That's why the bad guys are singing disco
Because everybody hates disco
The Jackson movies paid homage to it even, in the extended cut they include the part where they follow the orcs around, and just before they get caught by the marching troupe you can hear their footsteps and they mimic the sound of the drums here.
@@KingBobXVI Wait, what part in which movie is that specifcally?
What they were doing was making a catchy song humanizing a fantasy race. But really, the people on drawing comparisons in the last hundred years are kidding themselves. This is for more relatable to feudal societies and "lords" forcing peasants into armies.
Sam and Frodo failed their stealth checks, then passed their persuasion check.
And utilitize there disguise check
He thinks we're orcs CHA+20
Bards in a nutshell
@@nigelsmedley7737 Thats funny. In 90% of the cases you throw a 1 if someone mistakes you for an orc. :D
"And you call yourself an orc!?"
rolls a 3.
"Youre right!"
They may be horrific corruptions of elvenkind, but between this and "Choice of Evils" *orcs can REALLY harmonize!*
Fifteen Birds from the Hobbit movie. Technically goblins, but I believe they're adjacent, at least in terms of LOTR... Something about goblins being a sub-species of orc, if I remember.
@@PWaldo-lw2ds Another fine example. Songs and speeches (at least with Eowyn) may be among the only things Rankin/Bass did better than Peter Jackson, but they're enough to recommend watching *both* versions of the Return of the King and (especially) the Hobbit!
@@PWaldo-lw2ds In Tolkien's books, goblin and orc are synonymous.
@@simbiotesnus1013
I thought orcs were the smaller ones that work for the war machine and goblins are big guys that live in deep caves.
Partial Mobilization for special military operation.
We don't wanna go to Ukraine today but Putin says NAY NAY NAY
“Where there’s a whip, there’s a way,” Said the director of the sound effects team for Johnny Test.
Sorry I can’t hear you over the immense amount of whip cracks
Frodo Test.
I’d like to imagine he just had a clip on his phone of this song and played it everytime someone questioned what sound effect to use for anything in that show.
@@hollowgetsuga425 I like to imagine he had a whip just for this case
Idgi
Those foolish men were so distracted by our singing, my whipping, and our rhythmic foot stamping, that they never stood a chance!
I admire your work.
Utter Mordor _madlad._
Left, Right, Left, Right, Left
You call yourself an orc?!
@@frostyflames7864 You're right! RAAaaagh!!
One of the things I always loved about this movie was how, despite the villains being really ugly, they had such wonderful singing voices.
"They will tell stories of the brave Frodo. The one who took the ring to Mount Doom and destroyed it."
"Don't forget about Sam. Frodo wouldn't have made it without Sam."
I love how in this cartoon, we see how true those words are. Sam is so good at realizing the truth here, at keeping Frodo in line. He is a great hero, even if he doesn't think so.
Sam is unhinged as hell and I love him for it.
1980
I don't get the hate this song gets, this shit is catchy as hell.
I don't think its the song itself but the fact that it is in this context.
@115786412465892241707 What context would that be? That they don't consider the movie itself to be good?
dobadobadooo It would be that the tone of the song does not fit with lord of the rings let alone this scene.
The song seems to be about not wanting to go to war but the orcs live for war.
I always felt the Orcs liked the spoils of war and were fine with in-fighting but didn't have a preference either way for the act of War itself. Uruks on the other hand, they existed as machines of war.
JRR Tolkien himself once said that were SOME orcs that didn't live to fight. There where a few groups here and there that engaged in art or agriculture. The orcs in this scene comprised some of of those one-off orc groups, hence, they didn't want to go to war.
The Four types in the comments:
1: "man, this song is dope."
2: whip jokes about work
3: sympathetic orc talk
4: "RACE WAR!!!"
You forgot people who actually wanted to watch this scene for the scene. Oh, that's right. There are none.
The ORChestra guy gets it...
I am your 666th like. Weird.
Don't forget the comments about the types of comments in the comments
Also the fetish guy
When I worked in an iron plant, a few of us guys would start this banger up.
This has lived rent free in my head since i was a kid
Tolkien: Orcs are dark skinned, bow legged, hunched over and fanged.
Animators: Pale upright frogmen. Got it.
The word he used was sallow not dark.
tolkien was old when he wrote the books he probably had poor eyesight
@@fedmcfederalson what? Is that logic..
@@oliverbicanic8517 it's a joke
@@elizabethfrohn-hengst296 - with no punchline...
I guess we're not going to talk about how well orcs sing.
The miracle of the singing orcs is not how well they sing, but that they sing at all
Well. They used to be elfs
The Hobbit cartoon by this same studio already had them drop two absolute bangers so
@@toxicbob2000 Hey I heard MANY years ago a song by the goblins when they take Bilbo hostage, where the orcs n goblins have Russian accents and sing a weird song, I think it was a BBC production... you got any leads?
This particular song was made up for this movie, but it is based on what actually happened in the books. However, orcs do in fact sing. They do so in The Hobbit (in the book, not just the movie). "Fifteen Birds in Five Fir Trees"
I didn't know orcs were this groovy. Maybe they aren't so evil after all
'Looks like the beat's back in the venue, boys!'
"And you call yourself an ORC?!"
The day orcs became more than fantasy genre cannon fodder
that bluff skill check roll though, a natural 20.
For the greater WAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHH
You're right! RAAaaagh!
If they only had meat on their menu instead of maggoty bread.
how does a slice of bread get infested with maggots in the first place? flies lay their eggs in meat.
Weevil larvae are also maggots and they live in bread
What about Them? there fresh!
🤣🤣
*for three stinking days*
The Amazon fulfillment center anthem.
The song that plays in every fastfood workers mind as they clock in.
"Where there's a McWhip, there's a McWay."🃏🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a little girl, I grew up listening to this in the animated movie. Years later, watching The LOTR movies, I waited for this song to start playing when Sam and Frodo were hiding from the orcs. A bit of an unrealistic expectation.
Well, now I know I'm not alone! I was waiting for it too •^•
+Awesome Totoro123 They could add the song in a special edition!!
Who's with me???!!!
+Naomi Martin can't blame you
+Daniel Norton IM WITH U!! :D
+Naomi Martin I think we all expected that seriously LOL!
In the books, the orc with the whip ACTUALLY says "Where there's a whip, there's a will"
Yeah, but way is way easier to rhyme than will will be
@@rgderen88 "But the lord of the lash says chill chill chill" XD
this song is even better now that I know this.
To be fair, if "where there's a whip, there's a will", and if "where there's a will, there's a way", then surely "where there's a whip, there's a way"?
@@lucaswalker6498 Q.E.D.
Strangely sympathetic to the orcs
Theyre a pitiable bunch. Arent they basically just a slave race? Theyve gotta be miserable.
@@PleasestoptalkingthanksYou can pity them, but don't forget that even without the Dark Lord's influence they'd still be evil.
This song is so damn funky. Why couldnt they find a way to squeeze it into Jackson's?
NeoGenMike Tschida ya that would be hilarious, but Tolkein did not write this song, it was written specifically for this animated cartoon based on what the Orc taskmaster was screaming. He was saying something along the lines of "Where there's a whip, there's a will". So i'm sure there would be copyright issues
Because it would ruin the dramatic tone.
Because it's stupid! Sure, I'll admit that it's catchy, but they would be so less intimidating in the Peter Jackson version. And really, could you see orcs, Sauron's foot soldiers, creatures that live for war, killing, and cruelty, singing this song? Really. In this version, yes, but in Peter Jackson's version, really?
+Kenneth Walker It's contrast, baby. Serious Peter Jackson and BAM, Funky Whip song, then everyone forgets it.
+NeoGenMike Tschida it sounds like it was sort of in the Return of the King film, in the background score for the "becoming Orcs" scene
Is this the cartoon's way of humanizing the Orcs since Tolkien stated that one of his regrets was that he didn't give the Orcs much sympathy and that they were treated like slaves that often didn't get a choice rather being evil.
I've always found some of the most interesting parts of the Lord of the Rings is when the orcs get to talk and share some of their thoughts, like when merry and Pippen are overhearing the three different groups of orcs bickering (Urak-hai from Isengard, Black Uruks from mordor and the smaller orcs from the Mines of Moria), when Sam overhears Gorebag and Shagrat, or in gorgoroth when Sam and frodo overhear the large soldier and the tracker.... It makes the orcs more than mindless drones and I think it would have been cool to hear a lot more of that and for them to be "humanized" a bit more... Like when Gorbag refers to frodo being left for dead as a "typical elf trick", it implies they have a morality that looks down upon leaving a wounded comrade
@@post-leftluddite You are right. I love parts where Pippen and Merry recieve some orc luqiud and this work same as lembas or elves drink and make them able to run with same speed and stamina as orcs. Also black ointment on injury and all this stuff.
Also little dialog where some orc talk about desertion.
This is problem with Tolkien his world is so much black and white.
If you are interested in some stories where creature are in main role and are taken more seriously I recommend Goblin trilogy.
@@PstruhovaAsistentka Tolkien's world in a nutshell:
"There is very little good in this world, and we should hope to never find it"
@makeanewchronoplz Yes. I wish we could've seen more of the Orcs as Tolkien had originally intended.
@@post-leftluddite Agreed! Those are some of the most fascinating parts for me too!
Russia, 21.09.2022: This is our jam
Russian after mobilisation
Lol clueless idiot 🤣
My favorite part is 2:45- Frodo says "I can't continue!" like the burden of the ring is weighing heavily on him and Sam's response is basically "Yeah, I know, this music sucks." What?
LMAO good catch
This version of Sam is jingoistic.
@@cityman2312 *implies there is a version of Sam which isn't*
and then sam fuckin tells the orcs to kill all the humans
Its called a joke, ever heard of it?
The anthem for "essential" employees
Edit: for those shitting themselves, yes, my comment is supposed to be a joke.
When you compare endless marching, forced labor, being thrust into war unwillingly and getting whipped every step of the way to driving an ambulance.
@@fierystag6357 when you got a rod stuffed so far up yourself you can't take a joke.
@@sawderf741When you claim you can take jokes, but are so stupid you don't get that my reply was also a joke.
@@fierystag6357 To be fair, it could be read either as a joke or not
They call those whips a paycheck nowadays
Play this song everyday before I go into work
Russian mobilization.
exactly what i was thinking at work today
*_"And you call yourself an_** ORC?!"*
DAAAAAMN! Even I felt that one!
He was right though. Those humans thought they could push him around, and it would be sign of weakness to let it go
@@angham3829
do you people ever stop?
we are talking about frog people from an interperuitation of writings from an insane person who whent through a world war.
@@angham3829Thanks brother. These words were useful to me. Beautiful.
All men who walk in the Lord's shadow appear mad to the world, for they oppose its rulers
@@Franky566 He / She isn't really hurting anyone. Also, you gotta admit, a single Bible reply takes up far less space than a 10 year old who ruined a comment section with 6 replies that say nothing except "E" or a heap of keyboard mash.
The lashings will continue until morale improves.
lololol this is a funny comment
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Only Kinky whippings do that.
That like doesn't make any sense man lol
@Cole Tynan oh ok thx, I'm living in a third world country or "camp" oh hell idk? What I'm supposed to call it, but the conditions are extremely poor, and I was just making sure you werent a real life invisible slave driver. Shu what a relief
"And coming in at number two on the Mordor Top 40!"
I'm so glad youtube recommended this, this is catchy song
Sam: "Kill them! Bone them! Cut them to bits..."
Orc: "Smash them! Bash them! Skin them alive!"
Sam: "Boil them! Mash them! Put them in a stew!"
Orc: "What?"
Sam: "What?"
These are Orcs were talking about, they’d very much be on board for Man-Stew
*Orc menacingly approaches Sam in silence as Sam starts sweating bullets
".........Agreed! PUT'EM IN A STEW!!!"
Orc: “We’ve had nothing but maggoty bread for three stinking days!”
Sam: “LOOKS LIKE MAN-STEW IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!”
@@warlordofbritannia Tastes like salted pork
@@wyettastone Long Pork: Not just for Pirates.
"......and that, son, is why your father never came home again. He was killed by a pack of orcs when a dirty Hobbit goaded them into attacking his battalion....."
Evil men don't have sons that would be sad about their death I guess :/
@@shinkiro403 Of course they do, we all know how it works in the armies of evil, brain-washing, propaganda, the Men of the East probably don't even know why they're fighting.
@@caletevelen2647 my assertion wasn't actually because of their employer (namely Sauron), more like the arrogant and fantasy-racist attitude a-la-Dragon Age; I would have agreed with you if it was a more recent movie, but both LOTR and this movie were from a time where such stereotypes were played straight: this man seems evil, has no backstory telling us he might not be, therefore he is
Shinkiro Almost like social justice has deformed entertainment in all facets by looking at everything through a political lens
@@MortemRex I don't think I see the correlation. Regardless, the real problem is not social justice itself, which isn't a inherently a bad thing, more like the fact that its loudest promoters have an extremist view of it and end up acting like fascists
That's a hella catchy song, no wonder the master allows them to sing it!
This is where my childhood went wrong
"Most folk consider orcs to be nothing but barbaric brutes who'd kill ya soon as set eyes on ya, but I tell you, they have one of the most sophisticated musical cultures in the whole of Middle-Earth, with a penchant for intricately weaving together various parts of the vocals so that every part of the choir gets to shine!"
- Some tourist's guide to Mordor or something, I dunno
Tolkien: "Orcs make no beautiful things."
Script Writers: Hold my sheet music.
That’s how you know they used to be elves
@@benthomason3307 But they do make clever things.
Plus they can really cook on palm muted electric guitar and disco beats.
Terry Pratchett's LOTR
I'm impressed by the orcs sense of harmony. During the chorus, there are two distinct lines/melodies being repeated; one in a lower register and one in a higher register. The choir of Mordor really had it going on.
I'm impressed that they have a music source, but we can't see it.
@@brodielarson9096 Every good fantasy world needs bands of invisible elves or fairy creatures flitting about with Casio keyboards and other instruments. How else is everyone supposed to pick up on cues for battle, or dramatic tension? Eye contact and understanding body language? Pfft!
@@brodielarson9096 You think that's impressive? Peter Jackson's Uruk-hai have menus!
@@Hatguy23 I know John Carpenter face to face and I survived cancer.
and you're saying "you think that's impressive?" to me?
I have no idea why this was recommended to me but it’s insanely catchy
I grew up with the Peter Jackson films, which came out just as I was finishing reading the books for the first time. I`m very lucky to be just young enough that I have my own mental imagery for LOTR not provided by Hollywood. I knew there were earlier animated films that were not done very well but were entertaining in a campy 70s way, but I never saw them. Now, I`ve fallen into the RUclips rabbit hole. These clips are inspiring me to take a weekend, sit down with some longbottom leaf, if you know what I mean, and give 70s cartoon LOTR a watch.
The Middle Earth Orc Mens' Choir sounds great in this one. I wonder if anyone caught their performance at the Macy's Day Parade a few years ago. Thirty-six people died.
I died irl The middle earth orc men's choir lmfao
+cainster dem orks singing. damn better then any elf songs there.
+Alex Tippleton
Same.
I probly should have IF the parade was worth watching any more :(
Those who saw the parade were killed and eaten.
Me and the boys getting drafted for WWIII be like.
No more brother wars(only white brothers)
@ you weirdo
@ ok mutt
I still can't believe that leftists were dumb enough to think that was gonna happen, lol
Luiz Marinho - you can tell whos a brain dead normie sheep when people talk about drafts and Iran this and that. Completely brainwashed by CNN. Idiots
It pains me to admit I remember when this was brand new ! And I still love it 😂😂😂
I love how there is just this funky ass beet in the song
Aragorn knelt down to the floor of the earth, closing his eyes in concentration as he focused on the sound, he heard the distant approaching of those funky tunes. He stood, charging off with his companions, Legolas moving further ahead, hearing the jamming orcs from miles away, "Legolas! What do your elf eyes see?" He called, the elf spoke "They're headed east, They're taking the hobbits to boogietown!"
🎶The Hobbits The Hobbits The Hobbits to Boogietown to Boogietown!!🎶
@@angham3829
Thou poor sad fool! Thou hast no boogie in thy heart and no woogie in thy soul.
Gimli - At least its closer than Funky Town. * reluctantly starts running again *
xD
Bruh come on now 🤣
When you have a college paper do tomorrow
Maniac Magge due*
Usually I would let it go, but since you’re working on a paper that may be important.
Wait. You whip yourself?!
WhoKnownsAndWhoCares? Don’t kink shame
Yeah because scribbling on a paper is just like going to die in combat
So true in my life right now...
Sam clearly is tone deaf. This song slaps
We dont wanna go to work today but the lord of the shift says nae nae nae your gunna work all day all day all dayy!!
Imagine arming an entire army and having only one guy with a whip keep them in check.
Thats some pretty good crowd control
They do not fear the whip, they fear the master of the man who swings the whip.
He’s good at what he does, you have to give him that.
Sauron is saving a ton of money doing it that way
@@megavidaeos He even whips them in rhythm.