AHS12 Georgia Ede MD Little Shop of Horrors? The Risks and Benefits of Eating Plants

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2013
  • At the 2nd Annual Ancestral Health Symposium 2012 (AHS12), Georgia Ede, M.D. gave her presentation titled "Little Shop of Horrors? The Risks and Benefits of Eating Plants".
    Bio:
    Georgia Ede, M.D., is the only psychiatrist at Harvard University offering nutrition consults to patients seeking an alternative to medications. She successfully applies modified Paleolithic dietary principles not only to the treatment of mood disorders, but also to "Mystery Syndromes", such as Fibromyalgia, IBS, and Chronic Fatigue.
    Abstract:
    Plant-based diets are often touted as healthy, and yet many plants contain clever protective chemicals, carefully crafted by evolutionary forces over millennia, to serve the needs of the plant, rather than to nourish the human body. Many of these compounds are potentially toxic to animal cells, and include naturally-occurring pesticides, mineral chelators, and antibiotics.
    Understanding what is lurking inside the vegetables we eat can be very useful in managing "mystery syndrome" symptoms that do not respond to a traditional Paleo Diet, such as Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, and Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Drawing upon scientific literature in the fields of medicine, botany, and toxicology, as well as upon my own personal and clinical experience, this presentation groups familiar foods into botanical families (crucifers, seeds, nightshades, etc) and introduces the audience to the potential risks and benefits of each. This talk is designed to be engaging, fun, and provocative.
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  • @brianchristopher3816
    @brianchristopher3816 4 года назад +22

    I've gone carnivore for a month now. Knee pain is going away. I've run on several occasions to catch a bus. No pain or discomfort. My lower back was giving me problems. Since going carnivore it has improved 95%. I've lost cravings for sweets. I eat meat and feel full. Although I have desired snacking very recently. In isolation due to COVID perhaps boredom has kicked in. I've been watching a lot of health and nutrition videos.

  • @titomolly457
    @titomolly457 4 года назад +35

    Wow. Thing about this Dr. that was most impressive was her ability to say “I don’t know”. If more scientists, experts, doctors etc.... where this honest. We as a society wouldn’t look at them as infallible and or benevolent. And most of us might question being locked up and wearing mask.

  • @Johneseed
    @Johneseed 4 года назад +43

    This mainly Carnivore beast has not felt this brain woke and healthy since I was 21! Been eating mostly carnivore for only 10 months but the weight loss and muscle gain, not to mention the body inflammation reduction, has reached tantamount to my good health goals of reaching 101 healthy!

    • @Sig.Angelina9765
      @Sig.Angelina9765 3 года назад

      hahahhaha

    • @FictionCautious
      @FictionCautious 3 года назад +3

      Yet somehow you must be doing things backwards and wrong because it's common knowledge that plants are superiorer!

    • @spaceghost8995
      @spaceghost8995 2 года назад +1

      @@FictionCautious It actually is not common knowledge. It is a common ASSERTION.

    • @feebee5557
      @feebee5557 Год назад +1

      Same here. Never going back. #meatheals #carnivoreforlife

    • @p.m.8316
      @p.m.8316 2 месяца назад

      After how many weeks/months you were fat/keto adapted and better brain?

  • @toni4729
    @toni4729 3 года назад +11

    We are eating more fruits and vegetables today than we have ever seen even in previous decades. Fifty years ago the amount of fruits available were nothing like they are today due to shipping and science. Refrigeration and convenience. Things have changed and we're getting sicker.

  • @KenDBerryMD
    @KenDBerryMD 6 лет назад +125

    Great lecture! Very thought provoking...

    • @ashleynoelle7429
      @ashleynoelle7429 5 лет назад +3

      KenDBerryMD This one sparks passion in this topic.

    • @user-sp1mj1xr3j
      @user-sp1mj1xr3j 4 года назад +3

      The dose makes the poison as she says it. If you eat broccoli all day long, it will be toxic. If you exercise all day long, it will be toxic. If fast all day long, it will be toxic. Use common sense and you will benefit all these acitivities.

    • @deconcoder
      @deconcoder 4 года назад

      the thought it provoked in me is MD means nothing, and this advice is criminally stupid...

    • @susangrande8142
      @susangrande8142 4 года назад +3

      Rob Williams Troll, you are criminally ignorant.

    • @pudendajohnson1932
      @pudendajohnson1932 4 года назад

      @@deconcoder I think it means a lot.

  • @BRBWaffles
    @BRBWaffles 6 лет назад +41

    This is exactly the conclusion I came to about fiber. The reason fiber appears healthy if you read the epidemiology is because it's a marker for foods NOT likely to be eaten. The higher your fiber intake, it's likely that your junk intake will be commensurately lower as a result.

    • @TheCompleteGuitarist
      @TheCompleteGuitarist 5 лет назад +1

      @@bart-kay Epidemiology is good at proving the negative.

    • @neilxify
      @neilxify 3 года назад

      @@bart-kay I’ll check your channel but my initial reaction to your comment (ok, 2 years later😃) is that epidemiology is great when used to create hypotheses that go on to be tested. The fact more than half of epidemiological studies results get disproven in real scientific studies simply shows they shouldn’t be used to influence decisions about nutrition.

  • @dawnphenomenon5737
    @dawnphenomenon5737 9 лет назад +152

    Everyone calling this woman a quack and a shill aren't even responding to what she's saying. She didn't say she had any answers; she said these are interesting questions to ask.

    • @VaughnMalecki
      @VaughnMalecki 6 лет назад +26

      That just goes to show how brainwashed they are. They probably do not have K2 in their diet either making it difficult to accept any new knowledge or information outside of their preconceptions.

    • @PlayInADay
      @PlayInADay 4 года назад

      You are not stating this accurately. If she does not have answers she should not be talking.

    • @NicholsKT
      @NicholsKT 4 года назад +11

      @@PlayInADay Sigh. So only God should ever talk?

    • @philosophycoaching8002
      @philosophycoaching8002 4 года назад

      she is funded by meat and dairy industry, but i could go over all her arguments if you want.

    • @Enderberg
      @Enderberg 4 года назад +6

      @@philosophycoaching8002 Please do. And please list her sponsors.

  • @toni4729
    @toni4729 4 года назад +13

    Going without vegetables is no problem and going without fibre is even easier if you eat enough fat in your diet, it takes the place of fibre and your digestive system runs very smoothly indeed.

  • @harryviking6347
    @harryviking6347 5 лет назад +39

    I grew up in the 50s and we mostly ate whale meat, fish and occasionally red meat. Vegetables were something seasonal , and so were fruits. We did not eat much of that. Potatoes, carrots usually. People were slim and rarely sick and got very old!! Even today I do not really like all these vegetables or sweet fruits. I am at very good health!!

    • @bluef.2473
      @bluef.2473 5 лет назад

      Very interesting! thanks for this insight!

    • @createveryday1
      @createveryday1 5 месяцев назад

      Where did you grow up? Interesting that you had so much access to whale mest

  • @missing1person
    @missing1person 5 лет назад +43

    there is ALOT of we don't know or hard to know..if you are on keto or carnivorer you are at least 90%healthier that you were before.

  • @RonMac08
    @RonMac08 9 лет назад +24

    I've had problems with plants all my life. I can eat certain plants, beans, potatoes, tomatoes, but not others. I've gotten sick with some vegetable I've eaten, but never knew why. Maybe I'm super sensitive to some of the plant defenses.

    • @user-od9pj3vq8y
      @user-od9pj3vq8y 8 лет назад

      Which vegetables made you sick?

    • @napakamu9670
      @napakamu9670 6 лет назад +2

      you're not the only one. I can't eat any plants and I suspect polyphenols have a part in this. also there are a massive amount of people just like us

    • @RonMac08
      @RonMac08 4 года назад

      @@user-od9pj3vq8y Mostly green stuff.

    • @jacklabonte6839
      @jacklabonte6839 2 года назад +2

      I'm in the same boat. I can eat very few plants or fruits without my body going absolutely ape shit(I do seem to tolerate raspberries, blackberries, and mushrooms). I tried adding veggies back in, very gradually, and almost immediately my nose would begin to gush, I get itchy eyes, headache, gut rot, and just want to curl into a fetal position in the dark.
      I stuck with veganism for most of my adult life, and kept feeling worse. Finally out of desperation I tried carnivore eating, nose to tail as they say. Sinus infections gone, seasonal allergies gone, sleep apnea gone, achy knees gone, better skin, better dental health, crazy libido😉. I don't know the science, but I know that I haven't felt this good in a very long time. If I'd only known this at 18 instead of learning it in my late 40's. Also dropped from 220lbs down to 180lbs. 😀

    • @kinewt1
      @kinewt1 2 года назад +1

      @@jacklabonte6839 sounds like you might have histamine intolerance.

  • @dirtybubblerising
    @dirtybubblerising 3 года назад +14

    "Researchers tend to break the food into little parts and look at it too closely and become completely disoriented about reality"
    I'm looking at you, Dr. Rhonda Patrick

    • @carnigoth
      @carnigoth 11 месяцев назад

      Hahaha good one

  • @iandalrymple7255
    @iandalrymple7255 4 года назад +12

    Not to be gross but for me when I went from 20 grams of total carbs all veg to 30 net I became way more regular and my gut feels way better. In both carb doses I am in nutritional ketosis.
    But this is an awesome lecture. Just look at the research and present it. I also like her lectures about mental health and diet. Awesome woman

    • @Metqa
      @Metqa 4 года назад +3

      That's not gross at all. Understanding elimination is as important as any other system in your body means that you are aware when things are going right and when things are going wrong for you. I spent decades of my life knowing exactly how the consistency of my elimination should be, and when that changed, I knew something was up and that it likely happened within the past 24 hours. Being regular means different things to different people, but what does matter is maximizing comfort and minimizing damage. Doesn't matter if fiber is good for you if you can't pass a stool because of too much of it. Also consider that motility of the gut is affected by bulk and many people pass fewer stools with less fiber, but still have okay consistency. Others could be passing less often but have harder stools. They may not need more fiber, but more water. Yet soluble fiber essentially is keeping the stool hydrated and thus soft by holding onto water so it gets the credit when water was the deciding factor. But it's up to your gut and what works for it.

  • @redryuhood2985
    @redryuhood2985 4 года назад +10

    I started the carnivore-ish diet but I miss veggies. I have been researching which ones are safe and the list keeps getting smaller. Plants are evil, quiet things but taste so good. But, then again, so is sugar😵. More steak, please. Thank you to all the speakers, scientists, and doctors out there doing real science. I do feel a lot better over all and losing weigh with no big effort.

  • @williambeaumont1312
    @williambeaumont1312 4 года назад +28

    The dangers of eating broccoli. I knew this as a child but was overruled by my parents. So I was forced to eat it against my better judgment.

    • @wayne4768
      @wayne4768 2 года назад

      super funny although I was forced to eat liver, which I hated

    • @charlescharliejpeg
      @charlescharliejpeg Год назад

      LOL! Children have that picky eating as a way to avoid being poisoned. I still hate broccoli!

    • @doodoo7207
      @doodoo7207 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@wayne4768its ok if you hate eat liver because most of carnivore people not eating liver because afraid of organ

  • @organicdudranch
    @organicdudranch 4 года назад +6

    I met an old ww2 sergeant in deming at a RV park, booming huge voice and energy. i had to ask him ..what is your secret to making it to 94 yrs old ?? he said "i like meat" i don't like vegetables, i hate-em he did 8 or 9 beach landings in the south pacific , kwadileen,eneeweetach,pellilieu etc. the guy was tough.

  • @CheapSushi
    @CheapSushi 6 лет назад +147

    A bit funny seeing the vegans so upset in the comments. I guess it's difficult to be objective.

    • @thalesnemo2841
      @thalesnemo2841 6 лет назад +11

      CheapSushi
      So true ! Vegans are a preachy bunch! More bacon for me !😊

    • @Ramiromasters
      @Ramiromasters 5 лет назад +1

      Oh yea, vegans are trash such bad people... Sanctimoneus all the way, I feel good vegetables are so poisonus, is such a great thing :D

    • @sharmannobody7889
      @sharmannobody7889 5 лет назад +7

      The vegan is mentally ill and can not admit they are totally wrong about everything and are killing themselves with plants. I find it very amusing to watch them reform or die.

    • @greendeane1
      @greendeane1 5 лет назад +10

      Becoming a vegetarian is a decision to become sub-optimal and unhealthy.

    • @dankabal
      @dankabal 5 лет назад +9

      my guessing is all the vegans so aggressive because their brain is starving

  • @cq1903
    @cq1903 4 года назад +17

    This lady is like watching asmr SO RELAXING
    she speaks so nicely

  • @itzakpoelzig330
    @itzakpoelzig330 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dr. Ede always knocks it out of the park. So thoughtful, balanced, and honest.

  • @Veravanwhoop
    @Veravanwhoop 5 лет назад

    What about igh1? Doesn’t protein raise it risking cancer? I’m curious what you think.

  • @HeyHeyAlabama
    @HeyHeyAlabama Год назад +1

    Does this apply to what would be considered heirloom vegetables? We rarely have those in our diets today. They aren't readily available and have been pushed out of the market for newer, easier to grow, varieties over the last few decades.

  • @AngelaAStantonPhD
    @AngelaAStantonPhD 7 лет назад +43

    Great lecture Georgia! I enjoyed it very much! :)
    Angela

    • @Kobe29261
      @Kobe29261 6 лет назад +2

      Great lecture? "Fibre does not nourish us in anyway?" Great lecture? - come on Angela! She said so many things that were plain wrong. No, am not some vegan on my high horse but we need to stop lowering our threshold for broken science because we agree partially or completely with the speaker! Fiber is crucial* for the gut-microbiome - heard of fecal transplants? I mean where does one start? All the same, good luck on your journey!

    • @bigbenhebdomadarius6252
      @bigbenhebdomadarius6252 6 лет назад +5

      Fiber is indigestible, by definition, therefore it does not nourish us. It may nourish us indirectly, by being digested by intestinal bacteria into something we can metabolize, granted. But the experts have varying opinions of the benefits of fiber, so it might be helpful if you could point us all to some randomized controlled studies showing the benefits of fiber. If you could provide some data to back your statement that "fiber is crucial for the gut biome," that would also be very helpful, because I am not aware of any such data myself. And the efficacy of fecal transplants is entirely in question; the only studies showing benefits of which I am aware were all done in mice. I am aware of some anecdotes describing benefits in human beings, but again, randomized, controlled studies need to be done to prove those benefits in human beings.

    • @Kobe29261
      @Kobe29261 6 лет назад +1

      Man - that first sentence! Did you read it? "is indigestible . . . does not nourish us"? You know I really want to take a stab at this. But this will go nowhere like the billion other 'show me your RCS' requests all over the internet. I don't think you want to know the answers to the questions you raise. Why? Because you said enough to suggest to me you can find your way to pubmed and type in 'fiber in the human diet' or 'gut microbiome'. Also your answers are in your problem statement! Where is nearly all the serotonin in your body produced, GABA, at least some* BDNF? I'm not gonna post links here to it. It won't help anyone - you can't be convinced and it'll have been a waste of my time. When a man asks you to prove what is clearly evident, he's intended on winning at any cost. I wish you well. Just remember, we didn't discover penicillin from a randomized controlled studies or trials! Or germ theory, causes for rickets, scurvy etc

    • @bigbenhebdomadarius6252
      @bigbenhebdomadarius6252 6 лет назад +8

      Anogoya Dagaati That the human body cannot digest fiber is basic human nutrition. It passes through the gut and adds bulk to the stool. This very fact is why experts recommend having fiber in our diet in the first place. If we digested it, it wouldn't be able to provide the stool-bulking that makes it so valuable in the diet. So it is precisely because fiber does _not_ nourish us, that it has value in our diet. I'm not clear why this idea upsets you. Are we perhaps using the word "nourish" with different meanings? Starch nourishes the body, because it gets broken down into its component glucose molecules, which pass into the blood stream and provide energy to the cells of the body. Cellulose, a kind of fiber, cannot be broken down by the human digestive system, so it provides no nourishment to the cells and gets excreted. This is the sense in which I use the word "nourish."

  • @jamessang1704
    @jamessang1704 5 лет назад +1

    Good info, I'll research what she says. I've read that most vegetable compounds are good antioxidants and anticancer. The major negative of vegetables are that they have a lot of molecules that are antidigestive: antiprotease, antilipase and anti amylase. This problem can be solved by taking digestive enzymes.

  • @megaswenson
    @megaswenson 4 года назад +5

    Some VERY good questions from the audience! Apparently, they were a smart group (except for the ones chewing with their mouths open: maybe those people just wandered into the lecture by mistake?)

  • @magdalenavegan
    @magdalenavegan 4 года назад +6

    I haven't eaten vegetables for last 2 years at all. I don't consume any plant matter and I feel better without it. Plants mess up my digestion.

  • @Caliban071
    @Caliban071 4 года назад

    I would be curious to know how wholegrain groups affect humans. If a fruit attracts humans to disperse it’s seed then what of grasses that also give us seeds such as the wheat kernel. I would also be interested in seeing some videos where she talks about legumes and pulses. Lastly, she is on the Keto diet. I’d love to hear her stance on dairy foods.

  • @toni4729
    @toni4729 5 лет назад +13

    The science is there. " The Food Intolerance Network" Look it up. It's a very comprehensive website about the works and it's been going for decades.

  • @TOMMYSURIA
    @TOMMYSURIA 6 лет назад +10

    Fermenting veggies???

    • @qanononabong8491
      @qanononabong8491 5 лет назад

      Kimchi.

    • @TomTom-gc5qb
      @TomTom-gc5qb 5 лет назад +3

      My grandma made fermented pickles and tomatoes. It's how we normally had them out of season.

  • @HasturYellowSign
    @HasturYellowSign 2 года назад +1

    The best thing for constipation is the granola bar found in military MREs. But after eating you need to hang around a toilet as it will blast out.

  • @Marcinmd1
    @Marcinmd1 11 лет назад +15

    A friend is trying to get me to "Juice". They liquify large amounts of vegetables
    thinking they are getting a super dose of nutrients. I am resistant. I beleive controlling insulin with a Low Carb High Fat diet is the main event.What do you think about juicing vegetables?

    • @JackiePatti
      @JackiePatti 6 лет назад +5

      I juice daily, but not... like the juicing people do entire pineapples and whatnot.
      I basically juice the equivalent of a large salad: couple cups of mixed greens, a cup of parsley or dandelion, half an apple, a few carrots, celery, and some fresh ginger and turmeric roots. It amounts to about 6-8 oz of liquid, and I've tested repeatedly, it does not budge my bG at all.
      And yes, I do feel it gets a bunch of nutrients in me. As do my eggs, my meats and my unjuiced veggies. Juicing isn't "the answer"; the stuff tastes good and is enjoyable and gets a bunch of good stuff in me every day.

    • @thalesnemo2841
      @thalesnemo2841 6 лет назад +4

      Marcinmd1
      Way too much carbohydrates and sugars ! There is absolutely no need for carbohydrates in the human diet!

    • @bigbenhebdomadarius6252
      @bigbenhebdomadarius6252 6 лет назад +2

      Robert Lustig strongly advises against juicing, on the grounds that it destroys the fiber that he considers so beneficial to the intestines. Although he is opposed to fructose in general, he does allow that the fructose in apples, for example, is safe to eat, because the fiber slows down the absorption of the fructose to a rate that the liver can handle. Moreover, if you get your fructose in the form of apples, it is extremely difficult to eat enough apples in one sitting to overwhelm your liver's ability to metabolize their fructose, whereas it is very easy to get too much fructose all at once when drinking apple _juice._

    • @kidvinie6491
      @kidvinie6491 5 лет назад +1

      Hi, try watching Super Juice Me ruclips.net/video/Aaxa7rxEbyk/видео.html . I myself got rid of Rheumatoid Arthritis by eating plant based and yes the night shades caused inflammation as did any animal protein. I'm full keto now and enjoy meat but out of all the studying that I've done, I've never come across anyone that has cured the likes of cancer or auto immune diseases and stomach issues by eating only meat yet they do by eating only vegetables. If ever I had a chronic disease, the first thing I would do is go plant based. But like I said, I love and do eat meat!

    • @ЭХОВ
      @ЭХОВ 4 года назад

      @@kidvinie6491 Mikhaila Peterson. Like, only people in bunker haven't heard about her "full carnivore" case

  • @Veravanwhoop
    @Veravanwhoop 6 лет назад +8

    Dr. Ede, I love your videos. They are so eye opening. I am currently on a Carnivore Diet to heal my leaky gut. I have 20 more days to go and am doing wonderful. My arthritis has greatly improved! After my 30 days, I will be going on a ketogenic diet. I am curious, what do you eat? I mean, you personally. I will be adding in only fruits as it sounds like those can be relatively safe for humans. I know fruits include avocados, zucchini, etc. Are there any personal favorites of yours? Thank you.

    • @deskjockie4948
      @deskjockie4948 5 лет назад +5

      Before you begin adding vegetables and fruits back into your diet, you might want to check out Dr. Steven Gundry's "Plant Paradox" book. He talks about the lectins in plants and gives suggestions on how to prepare them to minimize the lectins. For example, tomatoes, zuchinni, cucumbers, and other fruits are very high in lectins in their skins and seeds. So, peeling and de-seeding these foods would decrease the amount of lectins you would ingest with them.
      I too just recently began eating a carnivore diet, after being low carb for over a year. Within TWO DAYS my muscle and joint pain decreased 80-90%. I plan to continue eating carnivore for 30 days and then re-evaluate.

    • @blacksmithgathering8647
      @blacksmithgathering8647 4 года назад +3

      Keep doing keto carnivore, lectins, oxitates, gmo is very bad

  • @Tommaso77777
    @Tommaso77777 4 года назад +3

    Thank you for bring the natural defenses of the plant to light!
    I have always wondered why eat the plant & not just its fruit?
    I believe we have a long way to go in order to get back to our natural human diet!
    Im trying to go by the best of the wisdom out there, & the blue zones which have the greatest life span is my focus. Dr Longo author of the longevity diet brought me to this thought.
    I would of appreciated it more if you mentioned that the Eskimos did not have a very long life span.
    Our adaptive abilities ensured out survival, but may not be optimal for health.

    • @Jean-yn6ef
      @Jean-yn6ef 3 года назад

      The Eskimos also started smoking as children, but were studied, prior to the adoption of foods of modern commerce, for being cancer proof.

  • @michelleadams5609
    @michelleadams5609 5 лет назад +2

    This is fascinating. Since much of the soil is already quite depleted in minerals, whatever nutrients do remain in the plant itself appear to be diminished/robbed by the antinutrients-oxalates, lectins.etc.--and deposited in the eater to cause disease and bone disintegration, neurological problems, poor sleep, death. I've learned so much and am grateful that I never really ate "healthy" my whole life. You've got to be really in love with your rancid-oils and spring mixes and spinach to risk all of that.

  • @mmabagain
    @mmabagain 4 года назад +1

    After 6 kidney stones, I have to really avoid oxalates. And they are in so many fruits and veggies.

  • @kratos_hu
    @kratos_hu 5 лет назад

    Does sulphoraphane consumption should be reduced for body builders since it inhibits angiogenesis? Am I thinking stupid and bro-science here?

  • @joninoj214
    @joninoj214 5 лет назад

    I wonder if blending veggies releases more of its toxins. I'm doing OMAD and I got joint pain the next day after eating blended kale in a salad. I'll try it a few more times to see if these inherent toxins are the cause or contribute to an extent.

    • @chickenlover657
      @chickenlover657 5 лет назад

      Good luck with that. Soon joint pain will be the least of your worries. Too much kale will give you fibromes.

  • @Terri_2.0
    @Terri_2.0 6 лет назад +1

    Great talk and lots of useful information--thanks!

  • @hinatahsama
    @hinatahsama 11 лет назад +1

    very interesting!

  • @sigma_carnivoresse
    @sigma_carnivoresse 5 лет назад

    At 23:45 looks like Jimmy Moore is in the background in the audience.

  • @pepper419
    @pepper419 Год назад

    Good to see you again Georgia.

  • @VaughnMalecki
    @VaughnMalecki 6 лет назад +3

    Excellent presentation. I'm a subscriber.

  • @jeremyr7147
    @jeremyr7147 4 года назад

    Been looking for this video saw it a while back. . Saved it to my playlist.

  • @sharmannobody7889
    @sharmannobody7889 5 лет назад +9

    Great information. I agree with her. I stopped eat all plants and feel better now eating only animal products.

  • @CarnivoreDMD
    @CarnivoreDMD 4 года назад +2

    Cooking nightshades deactivates most negative effects.

  • @dankabal
    @dankabal 5 лет назад +15

    If this is true, trough the recomedations of the goverments the kindergardens are poisoning my child!

    • @cord11ful
      @cord11ful 5 лет назад +12

      Yep. The guidelines are a reflection of the interests of Big Pharma and Big 'Food' (food industry), not based on true science.

    • @lunaflamed
      @lunaflamed 4 года назад +3

      Yes absolutely and it is deliberate.

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 года назад +8

      My son was nine when he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. This led to a five day hospitalization and a very quick, frantic, and overwhelming series of lessons for me.
      When he was in the hospital I was horrified by his meals. More than 100g of carbs per meal. There was SO MUCH SUGAR. They were aiming for 400g of carbs a day because he'd lost so much weight in the previous month. It was so much that he couldn't eat it all. He quickly got sick of the overwhelming sweet.
      When I questioned them on this they insisted that kids need carbs to grow and that, as a diabetic, he needed MORE carbs than normal.
      I couldn't get behind this. His BG's were all over the map. We were dealing with wild swings several times a day.
      I've spoken to many parents of diabetics and they all have the same story. Their kids were force-fed carbs and sugar to the point where it looked dangerous. Something is really wrong with the medical field if they think this is okay.

    • @electricalstuff259
      @electricalstuff259 3 года назад +1

      @@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 My uncle had a heart attack this year and his post-surgery meal was heinz beans, chicken nuggets and potato waffles.

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 3 года назад

      @@electricalstuff259 They did the same thing after my spinal surgery. So much damn sugar/bread/potatoes etc... At the time I was right on the edge of developing T2 diabetes and they insisted that this was the way to eat. smh

  • @geostokes8573
    @geostokes8573 4 года назад +1

    My takeaway here is that diet is far more complicated than the science can currently handle.
    Given that a lot of traditional "cooking" is processing to deactivate and remove harmful chemicals from plant foods, that approach to food processing, plus understanding of ancestoral seasonal eating, would build the best hybred diet. Many plants are beneficial in medicial contexts, and the carnivore diet isn't scalable globally.
    I will increase my fruit intake after this talk. But examining traditional processing of ancestoral foods seems the biggest bang for buck in the healthy diet sphere.
    Organ meats for nutrition, muscle meats aren't nutrient rich in a wholistic way.

    • @veniqer
      @veniqer 2 года назад

      Fruit are sugar bombs. Fructose can lead to non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.

  • @pamlovell9125
    @pamlovell9125 5 лет назад +1

    Green peppers have always caused me horrible nightmares.

  • @chrissharkeyai
    @chrissharkeyai Год назад

    Wonderful talk

  • @michelleayres5608
    @michelleayres5608 3 года назад

    Where's the lecture in favor of refined sugar?

  • @ijohnny.
    @ijohnny. 11 лет назад +5

    Great presentation, both sides discussed.

  • @TheTruthHurts6666
    @TheTruthHurts6666 2 года назад

    I just want to say, Eskimos cancer rates might also be they don't eat processed foods....

  • @constanceneal3717
    @constanceneal3717 4 года назад

    Has anyone ever seen Zach Bush's work on the microbiome and glyphosate?
    Has anyone ever seen any of Dr. Robert Morses work on fruit and herbs? Has anyone seen the testimonials?

  • @JosefBoberg
    @JosefBoberg 9 лет назад +6

    Great information !

  • @VinnieFavalesnutsack
    @VinnieFavalesnutsack 5 месяцев назад

    I just saw somewhere a recommendation to eat 6 cups of fruits and vegetables per day. That's crazy.

  • @dfvxc
    @dfvxc 11 лет назад +11

    Great presentation. Love the way she thinks!

  • @kal69
    @kal69 Год назад

    The question of colorful fruits attracting it's animal consumers,surely humans have simply,through trial and error,learnt which are not supposedly poisonous and therefore consumable in times of need,evolutionarily speaking?
    I'm sure that many early humans died from yew berry or holly berry poisoning. Early cereal farming,though an improvement for human expansion,was possibly a case of substitution to feed the masses collectively.

  • @robertyang2864
    @robertyang2864 4 года назад +4

    Carnivores gut microbiome also makes butyrate sad much as vegetarians. Lots of research articles on that. Don get brain washed that only fibers from plants benefit these microbiomes

    • @user-sp1mj1xr3j
      @user-sp1mj1xr3j 4 года назад

      I would like to see a reference because I haven't seen any long-term studies on people eating carnivore diet.

  • @michelleadams5609
    @michelleadams5609 5 лет назад +2

    I never saw baldness when I was growing up. Only rarely when I used to visit nursing homes with my school. Now, I see it mostly in vegan and "health" gurus and some of the rest of the population. I'm always taken aback when I see people like Tim Ferriss orDr. Mercola lecture to me how to be healthy when my 75 year old father and hi 97 year old father have very thick hair. The audience and those asking questions brought this to mind. Is there a connection between these advanced aging markers like baldness and plant consumption? Dr. Douillard was another one.

    • @oreocarlton3343
      @oreocarlton3343 5 лет назад

      Probably, I see more and more baldness everywhere not only in vegans, what part of world are you in?

  • @Converted2truth
    @Converted2truth 4 года назад

    to Tom, Tom. soooo many studies that are incomplete.

  • @atenglangit1
    @atenglangit1 3 года назад +1

    Gerson Therapy is plant based

  • @amiralozse1781
    @amiralozse1781 4 года назад

    great information and great talk!

  • @runnerrn2247
    @runnerrn2247 6 лет назад

    I would love Dr Rhonda Patrick to comment on this. She says “sulphorophane can also cause cancer” Where are the LINKS to research in this? #drrhondapatrick #foundmyfitness #drmercola

    • @chickenlover657
      @chickenlover657 5 лет назад

      Mercola? Biggest quack on the planet, duh.

    • @jeremyr7147
      @jeremyr7147 4 года назад

      "Antioxidants" are toxins generating a response. Glutathione is a real "anti- oxidant"

  • @spaceghost8995
    @spaceghost8995 2 года назад

    Very good however the Native Anericans of SD probably could not get large amounts of buffalo meat until after horses were introduced to chase and hunt them.

  • @ac0pt
    @ac0pt 5 лет назад +1

    Very good job, congratulations

  • @ijohnny.
    @ijohnny. 11 лет назад +6

    So ... juicing is out?

    • @miltonbates6425
      @miltonbates6425 4 года назад +2

      No. Juicing is still in. I make raw milk, raw calf liver and beef kidney smoothies once in awhile as a tasty treat.

  • @michaeltaylor7407
    @michaeltaylor7407 4 года назад +2

    Brilliant talk!

  • @carnivoreRon
    @carnivoreRon 4 года назад +2

    I'm carnivore because I'm allergic to gluten and some plants. My health has improved over the last 2 years because I've stopped eating vegetables. I refuse to eat a vegan way of eating because if a vegan diet will kill a child, how can it be good for an adult?

  • @hypercarnivore6978
    @hypercarnivore6978 5 лет назад +9

    So animal foods and some fruit seems to be the way to go.....

    • @TheCompleteGuitarist
      @TheCompleteGuitarist 5 лет назад +3

      Forest fruits, nuts and berries!!! Like bears. I think we are like other forest animals with similar digestion, pigs wolves bears etc. Just a thought.

    • @MuchomorekStudio
      @MuchomorekStudio 5 лет назад +3

      I do exactly this - meat, eggs, fish, milk and blueberries 👍

    • @JustMe-mn4gr
      @JustMe-mn4gr 4 года назад +6

      Years ago, I started asking myself what my ancestors ate. I think those whose ancestors were Inuit or equatorial, etc, may have different naturally healthy foods than those from northern Europe, etc. I think health started to decline when man started farming. So what did my ancestors hunt and gather? First, I know they'd have eaten seasonally. Berries and other fruits have a short season. Ancient hunters were eating nose to tail, not gobbling up the muscle and tossing the rest in the trash. There was no trash. They used everything. They also didn't torture animals with a lifetime of unnatural confinement and weird food and chemicals...

  • @johnnyg2501
    @johnnyg2501 5 лет назад +1

    pectins not mentioned

  • @jeffjohnson5908
    @jeffjohnson5908 4 года назад +1

    I cant handle oxalates or potato's family potato is the WORST it's just like swallowing detergent for me. I struggle with carbs too with abdominal pain and gas of methane and bloating.

  • @ronromeo9914
    @ronromeo9914 5 лет назад +1

    Great speech as it opens up space for us to enquire about this fascinating subject. Thank you.

  • @eerbatsirk
    @eerbatsirk 5 лет назад +1

    Tannins are not antioxidants, I thought they were anti nutrients- toxins.

    • @cord11ful
      @cord11ful 5 лет назад +1

      Not sure, but I think BOTH can be true, doesn't have to be 'either/or'. Just a thought.

    • @miltonbates6425
      @miltonbates6425 4 года назад

      They're both. Tannins have antinutrient effects on mineral absorption (mainly iron absorption) and they have antioxidant effects on cells. Antioxidants are just chemical compounds that have an effect on the human body. Ibuprofen has antioxidant effects, but that doesn't mean its beneficial or should be considered as having potential medicinal value.

  • @HeroicCoachingwithDan
    @HeroicCoachingwithDan 6 месяцев назад

    The majority of vegetables available today were not available 100, 1,000, 10,0000 years. We were not eating potatoes a million years ago.

  • @SimpLeeBeth
    @SimpLeeBeth 4 года назад +1

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @jinamatcharia8027
    @jinamatcharia8027 2 года назад

    Aren't most antinutrients reduced with cooking?

    • @doodoo7207
      @doodoo7207 2 года назад

      Yes , but why not drop plant thats better option

    • @Arkarian1987
      @Arkarian1987 Год назад

      Not oxalates

  • @arckocsog253
    @arckocsog253 10 лет назад +2

    So what should we eat?

    • @54321Truth
      @54321Truth 7 лет назад

      smell, warts, puss, shit etc..

    • @JackiePatti
      @JackiePatti 6 лет назад

      www.deductiveseasoning.com/2013/09/jackies-simplified-food-plan.html

    • @klinzons
      @klinzons 6 лет назад +4

      Beef

    • @FOURTEEFIVE
      @FOURTEEFIVE 6 лет назад +8

      a balanced diet, because nobody knows, and if you do something crazy you might look back in ten years time and really regret it lol

    • @VaughnMalecki
      @VaughnMalecki 6 лет назад +5

      Red meat.

  • @primitiveways7183
    @primitiveways7183 4 года назад

    Fibers good for making natural cordage don't want to eat it

  • @joshlockie9285
    @joshlockie9285 4 года назад +2

    If you’re still having symptoms on a Paleo diet you have a chronic thiamine deficiency

  • @robinr3666
    @robinr3666 3 года назад +1

    Of course Georgia Ede is fantastic. But what really impressed me was the caliber of questions from the audience. Smart crowd.

  • @atenglangit1
    @atenglangit1 3 года назад

    O...let me think..

  • @pmiller7148
    @pmiller7148 4 года назад +1

    I like this woman

  • @toni4729
    @toni4729 4 года назад +7

    Our children were always very wise. They knew right from the start when they turned their nose up and said they didn't want it, or " I don't like that mum, take it away."

    • @nicolasgirard2808
      @nicolasgirard2808 3 года назад +2

      By this ridiculous logic, I guess that means candy and ice cream are healthy since children typically crave them... lol

    • @toni4729
      @toni4729 3 года назад +1

      @@nicolasgirard2808 Well, that's an addiction of everyone. Kids would smoke given the chance.🤪I see your point though.

  • @paulwalton5383
    @paulwalton5383 5 лет назад

    Interesting but raises more questions than answers

    • @TomTom-gc5qb
      @TomTom-gc5qb 5 лет назад +1

      As it should. We should all be asking a lot of questions of the "eat lots of grain" authorities.

  • @ladeene06
    @ladeene06 Год назад

    Holy smokes Batman! NINE YEARS AGO!

  • @luddity
    @luddity 4 года назад

    I was a bit surprised that when she discussed the role of fiber, that she didn't mention the production of certain vitamins and short chain fatty acids like Butyrate, by the gut bacteria, which are required to maintain gut health.

  • @carrollhoagland1053
    @carrollhoagland1053 7 лет назад +7

    Nice talk Dr. Ede ... but I am sure it will be controversial. I know that you cured your own fibromyalgia ... and the defensive chemicals of plants can be anti-animal ... besides just anti-fungal and anti-bacterial. Nat G had a great program on how one species takes over another ... has nothing to do with seed but is the Chemical Warfare of the root systems ... the plant use 60% of the chemicals they produce to encourage underground microbiome and attract the right kind of soil fungi and bacteria. Modern farming still does not Believe that Soil is a Living thing, so they fertilize, use insecticides, and plow fields ... completely destroying this community ... We need Sulfur ... so cruciferous is important, however there are over 600 varieties ...
    Not sure how much above ground plant chemicals we have a problem with ... but certainly underground veggie are suspect. I do not eat underground veggies, and only eat Ripe above ground ... so new science will have to research these issues ... unfortunately much of our soils are depleted and contaminated.
    70 Going On 100 ..

  • @thinkingisthebox
    @thinkingisthebox 4 года назад +1

    The original CarnivoreMD

  • @danieltrickey9285
    @danieltrickey9285 3 года назад +1

    Northern peoples ate animals mostly especially in winter. Equatiorial peoples ate more plants. It's hereditary.

  • @rredding
    @rredding 2 года назад

    I am absolutely not a vegetarian, I think meat is extremely nutritious.
    Having said that, I never understand that experts fail to mention that fibers are not meant to be for humans, but for the microbes that live in your gut..
    Speaker is an exception, but why not mention prebiotics?

  • @colonyofcells
    @colonyofcells 11 лет назад +3

    Fiber is easy to test bec the effects of a fiber diet are seen the next day. My fiber intake is high & I tend to fill up the toilet bowl with long soft snake stools. In my rental place, the toilet flush is not that powerful so I have to shit, stop, flush, shit, flush, to avoid clogging up the toilet bowl. Sometimes, I even have to stop 2x and flush 3x just to be sure I don't clog up the toilet bowl. It is also easy to test the time the stool comes out by eating beets which can have red stools.

  • @madben9981
    @madben9981 4 года назад +1

    Oh baloney... I'm not a vegetarian and I do believe the carnivore diet is a good elimination and/or healthy diet, BUT walk down a produce aisle and you'll see a vast array of colorful and attractive vegetables that were evolutionarily 'designed' to attract predators.. I'm not recommending eating any or all of them, but there does seem to be a lost art of soaking grains/fermenting vegetables. I've yet to hear someone say they feel like crap today because they had salad or zucchini with their dinner last night.

    • @Ivan-bk9xs
      @Ivan-bk9xs 2 года назад +1

      most of them were not made big, bright, colorful and tasty by natural selection but by man's agriculture.

  • @Jean-yn6ef
    @Jean-yn6ef 3 года назад

    💚

  • @Htrac
    @Htrac 4 года назад

    Isothiocyanate may reduce levels of glutathione but the body compensates for this by upregulating it. As far as I know all the evidence shows brassicas are good and reduce cancer rates, probably via hormesis.

  • @LaneCodeRedCarnivore
    @LaneCodeRedCarnivore 5 лет назад +1

    I was looking a truck driving jobs while watching this and ewwww... Tanker job delivering human waste to farm fields ...I didn't know that was happening !! What the

    • @kratos_hu
      @kratos_hu 5 лет назад +1

      Yup, spraying fecal matter on the veggies is a good way to fertilize the soil around them. That is why you should wash your veggies and that is why it is easier to get e-coli infection through oral consumption when you eat green veggies than from rotten meat :D I always wash my pre-washed veggies as well.

  • @sks5279
    @sks5279 3 года назад

    From 18th minute onwards her emphasis changes ; ....veg good for most people... no scientific study...... people do their own study...
    What is this ?

  • @RonMac08
    @RonMac08 4 года назад

    I've had trouble with most vegetables most of my life. Of course, my mom and teachers didn't believe me. I can eat some, but not very many.

  • @viniciusalmeida7701
    @viniciusalmeida7701 2 года назад

    Im from Brazil and ''brazilian gauchos'' dont eat less vegetables than the rest of brazil. THey only eat more meat because they have more access of meat, still they eat plenty of traditional brazilian food as rice, beans, fried potatoes, salads with vegetables, VEGETABLE OILS, LOTS OF BREAD because wheat is the base of our food here no matter where u are. For example they will eat more meat but mix with vinagrete dat is garlic, onions, tomatoes with some bread and mayonease... definitely not a carnivore dieat at all. They just have more access to meat but not at all this means dat they eat less of the other foods. To be honest they drink milk WITH processed chocolate, sweets and all dat. Is veeery hard nowadays to find people who dont have access to other food and do not choose to eat it all. Just to clarify because it seems like they eat more meat than everything else and its not true, they just eat plenty of meat with everything else because its most of animals are from the place where they live.

  • @billihawk368
    @billihawk368 3 года назад

    Georgia is so beautiful

  • @andrewsd.c.xwymanxdcc8771
    @andrewsd.c.xwymanxdcc8771 3 года назад +3

    She is amazing 🤩

  • @ConstructiveMinds100
    @ConstructiveMinds100 8 лет назад

    I think sensible omnivores who eat meat occasionally, fuck all the sweet treats, apart from fruits is the way forward.
    22.20 this the most entertaining moment.