I would like to see the difference between steel and carbon fiber reinforced prints. Maybe you could do an olympic competition between aluminum, carbon fiber reinforced, and steel reinforced.
Man if that part had broke at the 10:00 mark, that slingshot shackle would have gave Chris one hell of a headache. I genuinely got nervous. Very entertaining video tho.
Sick AF guys. I’ve seen the markforged machines and wondered how much stronger they REALLLLY can print than just standard CF-PLA… and wow. Just wow. So cool.
Wow. Thank you! I 3d print parts but people are sometimes skeptical. The continuous fiber is awesome and this vid is something the world should see. You've made a clear example of the capabilities of fdm and it's an entertaining way to show the capabilities. Thanks again
Oh the shenanigans you weave. 🤣 Very cool to see something like this part take that much weight when engineered properly. I am a little surprised that Titan and Barry didn't get onboard with trying to make it break. I am curious though, can carbon fiber be purchased by any joe schmo with a desktop 3D printer? Asking cause I have been looking at different 3D printers but not filaments.
You can do chopped carbon fiber filaments on just about any 3d printer if you replace the brass nozzle with a steel one. However, this is different than continuous carbon fiber as it doesn't provide as much tensile strength. Chopped carbon fiber does improve strength over regular filament though, and it gives parts a really cool surface finish.
I guess the 1520lbs is telling you when it will start to suffer permanent deformation... but with the fibers that way, it will get more like an 0 shape due to the casing breaking but it will still remained close, that many loops of carbon fiber will hold way more than that before finally giving up With the added benefit that it gets like 2 breaking points, so the shape will fail and u will be able to replace it without it completly breaking apart at the second breaking point, clever
Great video, but there's a mistake at 3:34 - Re-orienting the part like this still means a tensile load on the fibers, it's just down to the part's geometry. The type of load would change if you were to load it perpendicular to the fibers or compress it.
Depending how the load was placed, the straight sections would be in bending. That means only half the fibers would be in tension, the others would be in compression (which has very low strength- it's like pushing on a rope!)
Very cool, playing with ideas myself, you can also bond in metal parts to reinforce prints, like bike subframes, the material needs to be temp and UV stable as well This is the future... amazing stuff
So a bit stronger than ABS on a Voron? Of course I figured you got a Markforged just to have an industrial-grade, industrial supported printer, but now I see it can embed carbon fiber and not jsut the ground up stuff the nozzle killer filament has as filler/stiffener.
1-10K machine with heated chamber and hardened nozzle. Price has been coming down over time. But professional services that print parts on demand with these machines are on the rise. All about picking right material for the job.
Important note: I hope you had to specify the loading rate into your software while calculating the safety factor (@ 4:48). Polymers exhibit stress relaxation. At lower loading rates, the polymer chains have sufficient time to reorient and reduce the stress level for a fixed amount of strain (especially in uncrosslinked polymers). Try quickly bending and releasing the clip of a plastic pen cap vs slowly pulling it back and releasing it. In the second case, the clip will not return to its original position due to permanent plastic deformation. While designing polymer parts, using properties from standard tensile tests like ASTM D638/ ISO 527 can result in part failure at premature loads as these tests fix the loading rate. The values from these tests can only be used to compare different polymers. In this case the carbon fiber definitely helps stiffen the hook but the loading rate is something to keep in mind. I recommend the book “Understanding polymer processing, processes and governing equations” by Tim Osswald for further reading.
You guys just trolled the entire machining WORLD with that Vevor scale. 🤣 Talk about the absolute last word in showing a tool from the other end of the spectrum.
That was amazing what 3D now is available to produce with a "House-hold" 3D printer (With special fillings) But metal 3D printers like SpaceX have are amazing to
To be fair, this ain't no Ender 3 setup like most people have. Anything is "household" if you really want it to be. Saw some dude with 2 huge HAAS CNC machines in his garage one time, lol.
With the proper training/supervision a Haas mini mill would be great for a 16 year old. After all, you can drive a car at that age. The printer in the video does sit on a desk, therefore I would say it qualifies as a desktop 3D printer.
Please, PLEASE…when you make the follow-up video that shows you breaking this part by renting another forklift and lifting yours with this part, wear Army helmets to protect yourselves from flying shrapnel.
Deceptive marketing rubbish. What is the thickness and height of the wall? What is the tensile stress? You could design bluetack to hold up 1000 pounds.
@@BigDogEnergy-69420 CFRP is the abbreviation for carbon fiber-reinforced plastic. CFRP is a material consisting of several constitutes: a base or carrier substance, also called matrix, and a second reinforcing component, the carbon fiber, which is embedded in the matrix. USUALLY A SYNTHETIC RESIN IS CHOSEN AS MATRIX MATERIAL. The cured composite has different mechanical properties depending on the type of carbon fibers used, the matrix and the manufacturing process. Please note the RESIN part in the above expanation. A resin is a solid or highly viscous substance of plant or synthetic origin that is typically convertible into polymers, and while all plastics are polymers not all polymers are plastics.
@@madmurdoch2000 right, so which part about reinforcing a plastic part with laid continuous fibers was it that led you to interpret they were calling the whole part carbon fiber, or equating the two?
@@BigDogEnergy-69420 oh i dont know how about the fact that he made a part from carbon fiber and NOT PLASTIC. you cannt mix and match carbon fiber filiment with PLA or ABS.{due to the differant melting points of the filiments}. so the whole thing must be made from a carbon fiber filiment which is basical making a carbon fiber part. and carbon fiber is NOT plastic the resins used are polymers but those polymers are NOT PLASTIC. they work in a machine shop and have to know all about the differant matirials that they use as so them saying that it;s plastic is not TRUE.
I may not be or aspire to be a cnc machinist but man the stuff that you guys can do is amazing. Much love from Australia 🇦🇺
Hope to see you Australian Manufacturing Week in Melbourne in May and you can try to break the part yourself 💪
That was impressive! I also laughed when Donnie did his belly flop on the pallet. 🤣
My ribs still hurt 😂
I would like to see the difference between steel and carbon fiber reinforced prints. Maybe you could do an olympic competition
between aluminum, carbon fiber reinforced, and steel reinforced.
Man if that part had broke at the 10:00 mark, that slingshot shackle would have gave Chris one hell of a headache. I genuinely got nervous. Very entertaining video tho.
Materials science and engineering is insane! Awesome demonstration guys.
Its nice that Titan allows time for other things like this besides only parts production.
I would be interested in seeing this being done with a piece where the upward force is distributed along one vector instead of 2.
no one driving forklifts knows what a vector is..
@@mattiasarvidsson8522 Found a forklift uncertified person
You should do a collaboration with Matt's offroad and let him try it as a tow point. He would give it a real life test.
1 Ton v/impressive & as explained it's all in the Manufacturing, Titan's just keeps lifting the Bar
Sick AF guys. I’ve seen the markforged machines and wondered how much stronger they REALLLLY can print than just standard CF-PLA… and wow. Just wow. So cool.
Man Trevor, every stinkin time you added another weight I was like …
Watch your toes !
You guys have way too much fun...thanks for sharing.
Wow. Thank you! I 3d print parts but people are sometimes skeptical. The continuous fiber is awesome and this vid is something the world should see. You've made a clear example of the capabilities of fdm and it's an entertaining way to show the capabilities.
Thanks again
Hahaha, fun video! Of course Jessie had to come jump on it like some kind of wild naked Indian from Mississippi
Power gym tool baby💪
The Jessie Shuffle gets me every time!
Oh the shenanigans you weave. 🤣 Very cool to see something like this part take that much weight when engineered properly. I am a little surprised that Titan and Barry didn't get onboard with trying to make it break.
I am curious though, can carbon fiber be purchased by any joe schmo with a desktop 3D printer? Asking cause I have been looking at different 3D printers but not filaments.
You can do chopped carbon fiber filaments on just about any 3d printer if you replace the brass nozzle with a steel one. However, this is different than continuous carbon fiber as it doesn't provide as much tensile strength. Chopped carbon fiber does improve strength over regular filament though, and it gives parts a really cool surface finish.
I guess the 1520lbs is telling you when it will start to suffer permanent deformation... but with the fibers that way, it will get more like an 0 shape due to the casing breaking but it will still remained close, that many loops of carbon fiber will hold way more than that before finally giving up
With the added benefit that it gets like 2 breaking points, so the shape will fail and u will be able to replace it without it completly breaking apart at the second breaking point, clever
Great video, but there's a mistake at 3:34 - Re-orienting the part like this still means a tensile load on the fibers, it's just down to the part's geometry. The type of load would change if you were to load it perpendicular to the fibers or compress it.
Depending how the load was placed, the straight sections would be in bending. That means only half the fibers would be in tension, the others would be in compression (which has very low strength- it's like pushing on a rope!)
I still am blown away that thing held 2,200 lbs!!!
Wonder if it would be good for rock climbing as a attachment point on a anchor
Polymaker did a similar test in their filament factory with their PC Max and its absolutely astonishing what these thermoplastics will take!
Would love to have the STL so other tech could see how they stack up to Markforged.
Very cool, playing with ideas myself, you can also bond in metal parts to reinforce prints, like bike subframes, the material needs to be temp and UV stable as well
This is the future... amazing stuff
So a bit stronger than ABS on a Voron? Of course I figured you got a Markforged just to have an industrial-grade, industrial supported printer, but now I see it can embed carbon fiber and not jsut the ground up stuff the nozzle killer filament has as filler/stiffener.
Getting into CAE. Man.
What Titan says. Does he want to teach CAE also on the Academy.
9:49 except the plastic you use with the fiber makes a difference and have fun printing most of those in a open frame machine.
1-10K machine with heated chamber and hardened nozzle. Price has been coming down over time. But professional services that print parts on demand with these machines are on the rise. All about picking right material for the job.
Important note: I hope you had to specify the loading rate into your software while calculating the safety factor (@ 4:48).
Polymers exhibit stress relaxation. At lower loading rates, the polymer chains have sufficient time to reorient and reduce the stress level for a fixed amount of strain (especially in uncrosslinked polymers). Try quickly bending and releasing the clip of a plastic pen cap vs slowly pulling it back and releasing it. In the second case, the clip will not return to its original position due to permanent plastic deformation.
While designing polymer parts, using properties from standard tensile tests like ASTM D638/ ISO 527 can result in part failure at premature loads as these tests fix the loading rate. The values from these tests can only be used to compare different polymers.
In this case the carbon fiber definitely helps stiffen the hook but the loading rate is something to keep in mind.
I recommend the book “Understanding polymer processing, processes and governing equations” by Tim Osswald for further reading.
Hey Titans of CNC, see you at Nationals for skillsUSA from the gold medal for additive manufacturing team Gillette college
You guys can't leave us hanging like that, please do another video where you actually break it.
I know, I’m sorry! 😂
That was fun to watch.
Makes me happy knowing I have the same printer. So this didn’t have any carbon fibre inlay at all?
It would be nice to see where its breaking point is since you were not able to get to it with that test.
You guys just trolled the entire machining WORLD with that Vevor scale. 🤣 Talk about the absolute last word in showing a tool from the other end of the spectrum.
Man wish i had a market for printed carbon fiber that looks dope!
Fun video guys! The anticipation for destruction continues to build with this 3D printed part!
thats damn impressive, good work
The modem noise cracked me up
10:04 A candidate for Darwin award.
Love the safety glasses ✌️
So excited men,u made feel hallucinating, that's mind blowing keep it up,bam!👍♥️
Damn we be living in the future
That was awesome, Now get some hard hats we want you to keep making awesome videos. 👊
That was amazing what 3D now is available to produce with a "House-hold" 3D printer (With special fillings) But metal 3D printers like SpaceX have are amazing to
To be fair, this ain't no Ender 3 setup like most people have. Anything is "household" if you really want it to be. Saw some dude with 2 huge HAAS CNC machines in his garage one time, lol.
do you have a video of the same part but printed with carbon fiber infused material? I would like to see the difference
All I was thinking is that shackle
Gonna knock someone out Lol..
Great job Mr trevor 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That's no normal desktop 3D printer. That thing has to cost at least $10K
I think the version they have is $17.5k
Osha? No, no Osha here. Lmao
should send a couple of these to the youtube channel HowNOT2
Indeed, he has the equipment to see how strong parts like this are. Both static and shock loading.
never see the machines running in the factory ?
They make highly proprietary parts for companies like SpaceX. Those firms don’t want pictures of their parts on the Internet.
Where's Barry? He could break it!
Haha me and Titan were out of town!
@@barrysetzer That little piece of plastic got lucky!
Just joshin...you are all awesome!
What brand material was that?
If it had braked it you could have gotten the metal chackel right in your head.
or filament shards straight to the eyes
not a desktop printer, its like saying a hass mini mill is great for a 16 year old lol
With the proper training/supervision a Haas mini mill would be great for a 16 year old. After all, you can drive a car at that age. The printer in the video does sit on a desk, therefore I would say it qualifies as a desktop 3D printer.
Bro, if you're going to sit under that clevic that has 1000kg on it trying to break it, please wear a helmet. Even just falling with gravity that
I’m not sure this video is OSHA approved
Oh ok just as I starting watching the rest of the video they explained it was pretty much loaded with carbon fibre
😂😂😆😆😆
lets gooo
Please, PLEASE…when you make the follow-up video that shows you breaking this part by renting another forklift and lifting yours with this part, wear Army helmets to protect yourselves from flying shrapnel.
Deceptive marketing rubbish. What is the thickness and height of the wall? What is the tensile stress? You could design bluetack to hold up 1000 pounds.
Yeah but you didn't break it.
I mean don't you want to know how much it lifts?
10:49 I had to stop watching. If the part broke the d-shackle would have hit the head of that man with a lot of force, likely killing him
can you colab with the channel Hownot2 in order to break the part?
conclusion the FEA sucks
The FEA is actually designed to show you at what point any damage will occur to the part. Not necessarily when the part will break.
This is the problem with fea, so many people think it gives them an exact answer.
@@trevorgoforth8963 fair enough
carbon fiber is NOT plastic
They mean the overall part is plastic, or a composite material with PLA as the matrix and carbon fibre as the fibres inside.
What is CFRP short for again? Carbon Fiber Reinforced P...what could that P stand for? Hmmm.. plastic maybe?
@@BigDogEnergy-69420 CFRP is the abbreviation for carbon fiber-reinforced plastic. CFRP is a material consisting of several constitutes: a base or carrier substance, also called matrix, and a second reinforcing component, the carbon fiber, which is embedded in the matrix. USUALLY A SYNTHETIC RESIN IS CHOSEN AS MATRIX MATERIAL. The cured composite has different mechanical properties depending on the type of carbon fibers used, the matrix and the manufacturing process.
Please note the RESIN part in the above expanation. A resin is a solid or highly viscous substance of plant or synthetic origin that is typically convertible into polymers, and while all plastics are polymers not all polymers are plastics.
@@madmurdoch2000 right, so which part about reinforcing a plastic part with laid continuous fibers was it that led you to interpret they were calling the whole part carbon fiber, or equating the two?
@@BigDogEnergy-69420 oh i dont know how about the fact that he made a part from carbon fiber and NOT PLASTIC. you cannt mix and match carbon fiber filiment with PLA or ABS.{due to the differant melting points of the filiments}. so the whole thing must be made from a carbon fiber filiment which is basical making a carbon fiber part. and carbon fiber is NOT plastic the resins used are polymers but those polymers are NOT PLASTIC. they work in a machine shop and have to know all about the differant matirials that they use as so them saying that it;s plastic is not TRUE.
How much elephants are there in 1000 lbs punds?