I've been watching these early 2000s games, it's fascinating for me. Doesn't feel that long ago but it really is, so much has changed in football and in life. The things the commentators say, the atmosphere and crowds, the way football was played, it just seems like 100 years ago or something?
Maybe if England games were played around the country more often there would be lots of fans around England being able to watch England games and there would be lots of great atmospheres. We play N Macedonia at Old Trafford in June, hope that is good
One of the reasons the crowd enjoyed this victory so much was due to the disrespect shown by pundits and the press in the build up to this game. For example, the memorable headline: 'Rooney, the wonderkid versus the window cleaner.'
That doesn't sound like disrespect, it sounds like a newspaper trying to make a 'David v Goliath' story out of the match. And as if the English papers want England to win anyway.
@@rohithraman6488 Yes I think they’ve had to be, England despite improving as a team since 2016 still have the occasional poor result in them and are only ever a couple of games away from yet another abject tournament exit.
I remember a headline from the sun that stuck with me from the draw of the 2010 World Cup. It put the first letter of each country in England group in big bold letters. And it read like this E ngland A lgeria S lovenia Y anks Many English fans will agree our press are so mouthy and disrespectful. I believe it’s that mindset that held us back after the Euros in 96. Iceland done us a favour by humbling our press. I get we want to big up our team and put a bit of fire into the fans. But we don’t need to be arrogant 🔔 ends.
@@randymarsh2901He was good at Preston and Leeds. He was a brilliant finisher but lacked pace, which is why he didn't become an established Premier League player. At international level, he was lethal. Slightly slower pace suited him down to the ground and it helped that Sanchez set up the entire team to feed him. He was prolific the following campaign. Shame Sanchez left before the end of the Euro 08 qualifiers. There's a good chance NI would have qualified if he'd stayed.
What a legendary win for Northern Ireland ! There are some of these older England games being uploaded where their squad is weird (possibly due to injuries) and the lineup is awful, but not in this game, where they boasted a very strong XI of world class players and were basically at full strength. As an Englishman with mixed British and Ulster heritage, despite primarily being an England fan I have always been delighted at this result and absolutely love that Northern Ireland won it. Hopefully it’s not too long before the two nations face each other in international football again.
omg, the UK commentators for the USA v England match in 1993 is gold. Complete smugness and dismissal of the Americans from the start.... two nil later and they're calling for Graham Taylor to be run out of town on a rail.
Wrighty went off on a right rant and rightly so England were so poor that night. Alan Hansen summed it up dishevelled, disjointed, played liked novices I dunno formation Sven was trying to play I mean he was under pressure after the 2nd half horror show which resulted in a walloping against Denmark he tried to be smart and it backfired and deservedly so he did that at the World Cup playing 1 up front which never worked at all apart against Ecuador where it barely worked. Credit to Northern Ireland one of the great nights at Windsor Park until the Euro 2016 Qualifying run topped even this unbelievable scenes at the end.
He was playing 4-5-1 with Beckham playing a quarterback role at the base of midfield behind Lampard and Gerrard. England were screaming out for Michael Carrick but Sven wasn't prepared to drop either Lampard or Gerrard. Carrick didn't even reach 50 caps for England, a criminal waste. Before the game, Tord Grip (England coach) had a measuring tape out measuring the width of the pitch. NI had narrowed the pitch to the minimum FIFA approved size. That being the case, it's a mystery why England thought packing the midfield would be a good - it played right into NI's hands. Beckham did, however, play well in this game, in the first half at least.
The 1st half was one of the worst England has ever played. How Rooney stayed on the pitch past HT is beyond me. Weak mgmt from Sven. Although the fact this was his 1st defeat in a qualifier 4 & half years into the job is some going. Parallels with Southgate today. Chirpy England fans thinking they have a right to walk teams over would do well to remember Taylor, Hoddle, Keegan and Shteve MacLaren.
Where were Northern Ireland ranked back then?. I remember it being triple figures. What a win this was, i still remember that goal and Laurie Sanchez's post match interview like it was yesterday.
I think we were about 114th or thereabouts but on the rise. We were 125th when Sanchez took over - our lowest ever ranking - on our world record run of 13 internationals without scoring. On the Saturday before this game NI had won 2-0 against Azerbaijan, our first competitive win for about 4 years. Before the match some bookies were giving NI at 25-1 for the win. England were dead certs to win - this is probably the biggest shock result I can remember.
Rooney just seemed to get worse and worse for England as the years went on. Despite his scoring record for club & country and his big game pedigree at club level, he often went mysteriously missing in the major international fixtures and/or when England were under pressure and behind in a game. i.e., here.
2:14:55 Wrighy doesn't get it: NI are playing 'We Are the Champions' because NI are (and still are) reigning British Champions, having won the British Championships in 1980 and 1984 - the last two times it was played. England decided they didn't want to play us any more after that... So we are the champions.
Between 2002 to 2008 was a set of generation talents England had - but there were other great teams in that generation too England didn't bear - (Portugal - Rui Costa, Figo, Ronaldo, Simao, Deco, Carvalho) (Brazil - Cafu, Carlos, Lucio, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho) Failing to qualify for the 2008 Euros is the biggest failure against this generation. Beckham was still quality then, and Chelsea, Liverpool, Man United were leading European football - with likes of Lampard, Gerrard, Cole,Terry, Wio, Joe Cole, Carrick, Scholes, Rooney all playing top level.
@Tommmmo92 Beyond the starting 11, squad depth was paper thin. Wright-Phillips, Carlton Cole, Nicky Shorey, Andy Johnson, Jenas & Joey Barton were some of whom played for England as well. Another problem was no-one had the balls to drop Lampard and/or Gerrard and make Carrick a regular starter, when England needed a midfielder with better passing range. Owen's injuries and Scholes' age and motivation were other cracks in this group of players. Nowhere near as deep in quality, depth and fitness as today's Southgate generation
@@encorefootball Totally agree on squad depth - but those players were still playing in PL - although a big step down, it's a cop out to think these players weren't capable to deputise. Roque Junior won a WC with Brazil, next moment he's turned up on loan at hellscape of Leeds ffs. The Gerrard/Lampard thing will the epitome of this era of England - the tail, wagging the dog. No manager had the balls to actually intrust a principled idea of play into England. Sven was just pick the best XI where possible. No reason whatsoever that Gerrard and Lampard couldn't play together - just not in a midfield 2. Look at the midfield of this game we are commenting on - Beckham at the base (Pirlo role) Lampard - Gerrard ahead --- fast forward 18 years and that amount of ability even coached under Southgate is frightening. Foden is the greatest England midfielder I've seen play since Scholes in terms of natural close touch ability - generation older would say maybe Gazza. Declan Rice, Henderson, Phillips are miles behind the talent and abilities of Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard - only Bellingham and Foden you'd see talent to compare. Fitness wise - I've always believe talent and the player would match the generation fitness wise. Fitness standards/sports science have come leaps and bounds, but good players 15 years ago, would still be recognised as good players today - just fitter.
@Tommmmo92 England played Macedonia a few days ago and smashed them 7-0. In the qualifiers for Euro 2004 & Euro 2008, England drew with Macedonia 3 times in 4 games. Do you think the quality of international football has dropped off recently?! The likes of Czech Rep, Montenegro, Ukraine & Russia used to give England all sorts of headaches in the mid-2000s, now it's expected for us to smack them 5-0 without even sweating
@@encorefootball As a kid went to the 2-2 draw against Macedonia at St Mary's - Seaman's first game after Ronaldinho FK, and got lobbed again direct from a corner. Don't think it's dropped off - it's probably at a higher standard when you consider footballs progression across Europe. I mean look at Iceland since 2016, Moldova beat Poland 3-2 the other day. Without looking into it, would say African football Internationally has dropped off. England and their managers/coaching give themselves headaches at every turn - McLaren failed against Croatia in 2007, Southgate failed against Croatia in 2018.
So tired of Englands miserable losing record over 60 years. Ive watched them since 80. Many top class players winning CLs and PLs, but put that white shirt on and they just dont perfom, wont perform, cant perform. 1996 and 2020 were their best chances to win something, Wembley matches too. Engs record must be the most embarrassing in football. The only big football nation to win nothing from 1968. 28 tournaments, 28 failures, with the worst penalty shoot out record. Czech Rep, Greece, Denmark, Holland, Croatia, France, Italy, Spain, Braz, Arg, Germany have all done better. It puts England alongside Turkey, S Korea, Uruguay, and Belgium in terms of S Finals only. You think Southgate will finally give them a trophy? Never. The FAs promise to deliver in the 2020s will fail.
"the first ever match in Belfast between these two teams was in 1882" Northern Ireland didn't exist as a country until 1921. I'm guessing that Motson is going with the view that Northern Ireland is the official Ireland team.
The "golden generation". Sad, because England were stuffed with talent but it was wasted because of Sven's regressive, risk-adverse tactics and terrible team selections. With the right manager who picked the right players (someone who was prepared to play Michael Carrick and drop either Lampard or Gerrard), this England side could have been legitimate challengers, maybe even champions. Instead, you had rigid 4-4-2 with no natural left winger except for Stewart Downing, hence Lampard, Rooney or even Scholes (!) on the left wing. Ironic really, that Sven was only really criticised in these games towards the end of his reign when he finally tried something different. It was all hype in the end but it could have been so different. The talent was definitely there. As a NI fan, I'm sad that this England team never came close to reaching its potential.
The extra sad thing is that the same thing is happening again with current crop of incredibly talented players that England have. Wrong manager wasting an unbelievable opportunity.
@@NorikoHarukoWell, no, NI is not part of Britain. Nor even Great Britain (the bigger island to the east). NI is a constituent nation of the UK and hence - quite properly - plays the UK national anthem. The clue is in the full name of the country: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Because the Crown of Ireland was united with the Crown of Great Britain in 1801.
We have spoken about this before Eve but which ones? Please give me a list of matches that you want to see because I can’t do more if you just post a comment like one that you have posted. If you don’t know which ones, try and do as much research as possible and come back to me when you got a list.
@@csenterprises9632 The games I would like to see are England v Slovenia from September 2009, England v Slovakia from June 2003, England v Croatia from August 2003, England v Liechenstein from September 2003, England v Denmark from November 2003, England v Japan from June 2004, England v Iceland from June 2004, England v Israel from September 2007, England v Russia from September 2007, England v Estonia from October 2007, England v Croatia from November 2007, England v Cameroon from May 2007, England v Porturgal from September 2002, England v North Macedonia from October 2002 and England v Greece from October 2001? I might want to see some other matches as well.
@@csenterprises9632 I forgot a few matches England v Brazil from June 2007 when they first played at the new Wembley and I would like to see England v Serbia from June 2003, England v Uruguy from March 2006, England v Finland from March 2001, England v Albania from September 2001, England v Poland from March 1999, England v Sweden from June 1999, England v Luxembourg from September 1999, England v Scotland from November 1999 both matches, England v Spain from February 2001, England v Mexico from May 2001, England v Portugal from April 1998, England v Czech Republic from November 1998, England v Hungary from May 1996,. Do you have any England matches from Euro 1996, World Cup 1998, World Cup 2002, Euro 2004 and World Cup 2006?
*thinking i know better than a Scudetto winning manager with nearly 20 years of hindsight on my side*: 4-1-2-1-2 GK Robinson RB Wright-Phillips RCB Carragher LCB Ferdinand LB A. Cole CDM Hargreaves LCM Gerrard RCM Beckham CAM Lampard FWD Rooney FWD Owen Not a bad idea starting Rooney on the left, he did a job out there often enough for United but it went terribly wrong in the 1st half as he looks to have something of a meltdown out there. I dont think Sir Alex wouldve accepted that. Foreshadows what happened against Carvalho and Portugal in Germany the following summer.
I have seen precious few RoI fans celebrate any NI success and I don't think any NI fan cares what anyone in the south thinks. For me, I'm delighted when the RoI lose and Thierry Henry is an all time legend. May the RoI's harvest be forever nothing but tares.
@@Ilovecats1236And, if you knew your history, you'd know that the reason there isn't an "all Ireland" team is because the Republic of Ireland team exists. There was one Ireland team but the big Dublin clubs didn't want to play for an association based in Belfast. No NI fan wants an all-Ireland team, we're very happy having our own wee team representing our own wee country. Thanks for the offer but we're grand as we are. 👍
Greece and Cyprus too. Also, when England or Northern Ireland play against Lichtenstein the same instrumental anthem plays twice because they have the same melody but different lyrics, so technically is a different anthem.
Same country (UK), same anthem. How exactly is that pathetic? England and NI are constituent nations of the same country, the United Kingdom. Of course they use the same anthem. You're showing your ignorance laddie.
That ones up for debate. Identify is a VERY confusing thing in NI. Also anytime I go abroad and tell people I'm from Northern Ireland they say 'Oh you're Irish'? What's even weirder is Ian Paisley, ex leader of the DUP Identified as Irish.
Before partition, many unionists identified as Irishmen despite rarely being ethnically Irish. Almost all unionists were of British descent, primarily Scotstish and English and to a much smaller extent, Welsh. The question is, what matters more, ethnicity or geography? You can't say that the unionist British in Northern Ireland can be fairly represented as Irish.
Today, I definitely wouldn't call your average Unionist 'Irish' because that's not how probably 98% of Unionists today would see themselves. However I think it was fair at the time for unionists before partition to identify as Irish because some did have irish Catholic roots, and others who possibly didn't were born and raised in Ireland and obviously felt Irish to identify as that. Unionists born after partition most likely stopped seeing themselves as Irish due to them not identifying with the irish nationalist majority in Ireland and I think the final nail in the coffin for any 'Irish Unionist' was the beginning of the troubles.
Not true. Northern Ireland beat England in 1972 and 1957 and a few draws in between. They also beat England in 1927 but back then Northern Ireland didn't play under the name 'Northern Ireland' they played just as 'Ireland' until 1954.
@@Ilovecats1236NI played as Ireland until the late 1970s in British Championship matches. It was only FIFA (and later UEFA) matches that were affected by FIFA's ruling in the mid-50s. Something to do with our friends in the south trying to steal our name (as well as our history!). FIFA did at least recognise the IFA as the legitimate custodians of the Ireland team. Hence the quirk that Northern Ireland are the fourth oldest international football side in the world, even though the country was only founded in 1921.
No, it's not. We've had several wins down the years. And of course you should remember, NI are the reigning British champions, having won the last two British Championships held in 1980 and 1984. Still British Champions. England don't want to play us, must be scared or something. 😂 I don't believe NI and England have ever played a friendly match. But we're still British Champions. I'm sure we'd be happy to put our title on the line. But your lot don't seem to be up for the challenge...
Imagine England fans coping about a loss 20 years ago by stating their superior head to head record against Northern Ireland. You might consider expectations here folks! What's next? Bragging about beating Tonga in the rugby world cup?
Really? An "awful, awful player"? 😂 He was a technically accomplished player, an excellent finisher with a good long range shot on him. He just lacked pace which is why he never made it in the premier league. He's highly regarded at Leeds and Preston where he spent most of his career. I have no idea why you think he's awful. But we can safely assume he's a better footballer than you.
I've been watching these early 2000s games, it's fascinating for me. Doesn't feel that long ago but it really is, so much has changed in football and in life. The things the commentators say, the atmosphere and crowds, the way football was played, it just seems like 100 years ago or something?
Maybe if England games were played around the country more often there would be lots of fans around England being able to watch England games and there would be lots of great atmospheres. We play N Macedonia at Old Trafford in June, hope that is good
It feels like just a few years ago, but watching this game now is like being in 2004 and watching a game from 1985.
Time passes quickly.
Look how slim ian wright was there
Yep, we're getting old, mate.
One of the reasons the crowd enjoyed this victory so much was due to the disrespect shown by pundits and the press in the build up to this game. For example, the memorable headline: 'Rooney, the wonderkid versus the window cleaner.'
To be fair I think the English press and pundits have been more humble since the Euro 2016 loss to Iceland
Window cleaner cleaned up.
That doesn't sound like disrespect, it sounds like a newspaper trying to make a 'David v Goliath' story out of the match. And as if the English papers want England to win anyway.
@@rohithraman6488 Yes I think they’ve had to be, England despite improving as a team since 2016 still have the occasional poor result in them and are only ever a couple of games away from yet another abject tournament exit.
I remember a headline from the sun that stuck with me from the draw of the 2010 World Cup. It put the first letter of each country in England group in big bold letters. And it read like this
E ngland
A lgeria
S lovenia
Y anks
Many English fans will agree our press are so mouthy and disrespectful. I believe it’s that mindset that held us back after the Euros in 96. Iceland done us a favour by humbling our press. I get we want to big up our team and put a bit of fire into the fans. But we don’t need to be arrogant 🔔 ends.
What an unbelievable player david healy was for northern ireland he always scored the important goals.
@@randymarsh2901He was good at Preston and Leeds. He was a brilliant finisher but lacked pace, which is why he didn't become an established Premier League player.
At international level, he was lethal. Slightly slower pace suited him down to the ground and it helped that Sanchez set up the entire team to feed him. He was prolific the following campaign. Shame Sanchez left before the end of the Euro 08 qualifiers. There's a good chance NI would have qualified if he'd stayed.
They didn't qualify. The goals are irrelevant.
😂😂😂😂
@@DannyBoy777777 did you enjoy the NI lads do the business. Healy magic. GAWA. ☘️
Important how??? When did you last qualify for a major tournament
What a legendary win for Northern Ireland ! There are some of these older England games being uploaded where their squad is weird (possibly due to injuries) and the lineup is awful, but not in this game, where they boasted a very strong XI of world class players and were basically at full strength. As an Englishman with mixed British and Ulster heritage, despite primarily being an England fan I have always been delighted at this result and absolutely love that Northern Ireland won it. Hopefully it’s not too long before the two nations face each other in international football again.
The level of condescension and disrespect to NI by the pundits and commentators is astounding, and calling them 'Ireland' constantly too.
"Condensation" lol. Aptly named!
@@erniemccracken2429 Ha ha, well done. But it was a fair point though, and explains why other UK nations want England to lose.
Well it is Ireland 🤣🇮🇪
@@TyroneMooselips To ignorant English people it is, yeah. To some NI people it is too, but we're not talking about them are we?
omg, the UK commentators for the USA v England match in 1993 is gold. Complete smugness and dismissal of the Americans from the start.... two nil later and they're calling for Graham Taylor to be run out of town on a rail.
Rest in peace, Sven Göran Eriksson.. A great manager and an even better man 🙏.
What a night!!!! Amazing memories!!!! 💚🤍💙
Nuts that this is almost 20 years ago 🤣 thanks for the uploads
17 years and 4 months = almost 20 years
@@xperte85 Yeah. That *is* almost 20 years.
@@kasiphia almost 30!
@@xperte85 Almost a knobhead, but I wouldn't go that far.
Wrighty went off on a right rant and rightly so England were so poor that night. Alan Hansen summed it up dishevelled, disjointed, played liked novices I dunno formation Sven was trying to play I mean he was under pressure after the 2nd half horror show which resulted in a walloping against Denmark he tried to be smart and it backfired and deservedly so he did that at the World Cup playing 1 up front which never worked at all apart against Ecuador where it barely worked. Credit to Northern Ireland one of the great nights at Windsor Park until the Euro 2016 Qualifying run topped even this unbelievable scenes at the end.
He was playing 4-5-1 with Beckham playing a quarterback role at the base of midfield behind Lampard and Gerrard.
England were screaming out for Michael Carrick but Sven wasn't prepared to drop either Lampard or Gerrard. Carrick didn't even reach 50 caps for England, a criminal waste.
Before the game, Tord Grip (England coach) had a measuring tape out measuring the width of the pitch. NI had narrowed the pitch to the minimum FIFA approved size. That being the case, it's a mystery why England thought packing the midfield would be a good - it played right into NI's hands. Beckham did, however, play well in this game, in the first half at least.
The 1st half was one of the worst England has ever played. How Rooney stayed on the pitch past HT is beyond me. Weak mgmt from Sven. Although the fact this was his 1st defeat in a qualifier 4 & half years into the job is some going. Parallels with Southgate today. Chirpy England fans thinking they have a right to walk teams over would do well to remember Taylor, Hoddle, Keegan and Shteve MacLaren.
Where were Northern Ireland ranked back then?. I remember it being triple figures.
What a win this was, i still remember that goal and Laurie Sanchez's post match interview like it was yesterday.
I think we were about 114th or thereabouts but on the rise. We were 125th when Sanchez took over - our lowest ever ranking - on our world record run of 13 internationals without scoring.
On the Saturday before this game NI had won 2-0 against Azerbaijan, our first competitive win for about 4 years.
Before the match some bookies were giving NI at 25-1 for the win. England were dead certs to win - this is probably the biggest shock result I can remember.
101st at the time
Keep them coming love retro stuff
Crazy that this is retro.
@@powderedground78 it is I feel well old now 🤣
What a day /night that was ❤
Glorious night for our wee country provided by Sir David Healy🇬🇧
One of many examples of Rooney being absolutely dreadful for England
sleep chap
Rooney just seemed to get worse and worse for England as the years went on. Despite his scoring record for club & country and his big game pedigree at club level, he often went mysteriously missing in the major international fixtures and/or when England were under pressure and behind in a game. i.e., here.
Still almost scored a right belter at the end.
2:14:55 Wrighy doesn't get it: NI are playing 'We Are the Champions' because NI are (and still are) reigning British Champions, having won the British Championships in 1980 and 1984 - the last two times it was played.
England decided they didn't want to play us any more after that... So we are the champions.
Ian Wright is truly as thick as a brick, he's a laughing stock amongst opposition fans
Genuinely never knew that makes sense
Tinpot generation, not golden. The influx of marketing hype and foreigners in Premier League masked our England players' noticeable weaknesses
Between 2002 to 2008 was a set of generation talents England had - but there were other great teams in that generation too England didn't bear - (Portugal - Rui Costa, Figo, Ronaldo, Simao, Deco, Carvalho) (Brazil - Cafu, Carlos, Lucio, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho)
Failing to qualify for the 2008 Euros is the biggest failure against this generation. Beckham was still quality then, and Chelsea, Liverpool, Man United were leading European football - with likes of Lampard, Gerrard, Cole,Terry, Wio, Joe Cole, Carrick, Scholes, Rooney all playing top level.
@Tommmmo92 Beyond the starting 11, squad depth was paper thin. Wright-Phillips, Carlton Cole, Nicky Shorey, Andy Johnson, Jenas & Joey Barton were some of whom played for England as well. Another problem was no-one had the balls to drop Lampard and/or Gerrard and make Carrick a regular starter, when England needed a midfielder with better passing range. Owen's injuries and Scholes' age and motivation were other cracks in this group of players. Nowhere near as deep in quality, depth and fitness as today's Southgate generation
@@encorefootball Totally agree on squad depth - but those players were still playing in PL - although a big step down, it's a cop out to think these players weren't capable to deputise.
Roque Junior won a WC with Brazil, next moment he's turned up on loan at hellscape of Leeds ffs.
The Gerrard/Lampard thing will the epitome of this era of England - the tail, wagging the dog. No manager had the balls to actually intrust a principled idea of play into England. Sven was just pick the best XI where possible.
No reason whatsoever that Gerrard and Lampard couldn't play together - just not in a midfield 2.
Look at the midfield of this game we are commenting on - Beckham at the base (Pirlo role) Lampard - Gerrard ahead --- fast forward 18 years and that amount of ability even coached under Southgate is frightening.
Foden is the greatest England midfielder I've seen play since Scholes in terms of natural close touch ability - generation older would say maybe Gazza.
Declan Rice, Henderson, Phillips are miles behind the talent and abilities of Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard - only Bellingham and Foden you'd see talent to compare.
Fitness wise - I've always believe talent and the player would match the generation fitness wise. Fitness standards/sports science have come leaps and bounds, but good players 15 years ago, would still be recognised as good players today - just fitter.
@Tommmmo92 England played Macedonia a few days ago and smashed them 7-0. In the qualifiers for Euro 2004 & Euro 2008, England drew with Macedonia 3 times in 4 games. Do you think the quality of international football has dropped off recently?! The likes of Czech Rep, Montenegro, Ukraine & Russia used to give England all sorts of headaches in the mid-2000s, now it's expected for us to smack them 5-0 without even sweating
@@encorefootball As a kid went to the 2-2 draw against Macedonia at St Mary's - Seaman's first game after Ronaldinho FK, and got lobbed again direct from a corner.
Don't think it's dropped off - it's probably at a higher standard when you consider footballs progression across Europe. I mean look at Iceland since 2016, Moldova beat Poland 3-2 the other day. Without looking into it, would say African football Internationally has dropped off.
England and their managers/coaching give themselves headaches at every turn - McLaren failed against Croatia in 2007, Southgate failed against Croatia in 2018.
So tired of Englands miserable losing record over 60 years. Ive watched them since 80. Many top class players winning CLs and PLs, but put that white shirt on and they just dont perfom, wont perform, cant perform. 1996 and 2020 were their best chances to win something, Wembley matches too. Engs record must be the most embarrassing in football. The only big football nation to win nothing from 1968. 28 tournaments, 28 failures, with the worst penalty shoot out record. Czech Rep, Greece, Denmark, Holland, Croatia, France, Italy, Spain, Braz, Arg, Germany have all done better. It puts England alongside Turkey, S Korea, Uruguay, and Belgium in terms of S Finals only. You think Southgate will finally give them a trophy? Never. The FAs promise to deliver in the 2020s will fail.
"the first ever match in Belfast between these two teams was in 1882"
Northern Ireland didn't exist as a country until 1921. I'm guessing that Motson is going with the view that Northern Ireland is the official Ireland team.
It is, IFA was the original organisation & Northern Ireland retain all of the original Ireland records/results.
We beat England's greatest ever side to never win a trophy GAWA!
what? ya england have so many great teams that hoovered up the trophies...
This team was overrated rubbish. The media over hyped them none stop but never did they look like winning a trophy.
The "golden generation". Sad, because England were stuffed with talent but it was wasted because of Sven's regressive, risk-adverse tactics and terrible team selections.
With the right manager who picked the right players (someone who was prepared to play Michael Carrick and drop either Lampard or Gerrard), this England side could have been legitimate challengers, maybe even champions.
Instead, you had rigid 4-4-2 with no natural left winger except for Stewart Downing, hence Lampard, Rooney or even Scholes (!) on the left wing.
Ironic really, that Sven was only really criticised in these games towards the end of his reign when he finally tried something different.
It was all hype in the end but it could have been so different. The talent was definitely there. As a NI fan, I'm sad that this England team never came close to reaching its potential.
The extra sad thing is that the same thing is happening again with current crop of incredibly talented players that England have. Wrong manager wasting an unbelievable opportunity.
imagine david healy, robbie and roy keane together
Only one national anthem
That's right, because Northern Ireland is part of Britain, Northern Ireland disappears as if Britain fell
@@NorikoHarukoWell, no, NI is not part of Britain. Nor even Great Britain (the bigger island to the east). NI is a constituent nation of the UK and hence - quite properly - plays the UK national anthem.
The clue is in the full name of the country: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Because the Crown of Ireland was united with the Crown of Great Britain in 1801.
No it is not.@@NorikoHaruko
If Wales had done this, you'd have never heard the last of it from me.
Do you have any England matches from 2003, 2004, more from 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009
We have spoken about this before Eve but which ones? Please give me a list of matches that you want to see because I can’t do more if you just post a comment like one that you have posted. If you don’t know which ones, try and do as much research as possible and come back to me when you got a list.
@@csenterprises9632 The games I would like to see are England v Slovenia from September 2009, England v Slovakia from June 2003, England v Croatia from August 2003, England v Liechenstein from September 2003, England v Denmark from November 2003, England v Japan from June 2004, England v Iceland from June 2004, England v Israel from September 2007, England v Russia from September 2007, England v Estonia from October 2007, England v Croatia from November 2007, England v Cameroon from May 2007, England v Porturgal from September 2002, England v North Macedonia from October 2002 and England v Greece from October 2001? I might want to see some other matches as well.
@@csenterprises9632 If you get anymore let me know.
@@csenterprises9632 I forgot a few matches England v Brazil from June 2007 when they first played at the new Wembley and I would like to see England v Serbia from June 2003, England v Uruguy from March 2006, England v Finland from March 2001, England v Albania from September 2001, England v Poland from March 1999, England v Sweden from June 1999, England v Luxembourg from September 1999, England v Scotland from November 1999 both matches, England v Spain from February 2001, England v Mexico from May 2001, England v Portugal from April 1998, England v Czech Republic from November 1998, England v Hungary from May 1996,. Do you have any England matches from Euro 1996, World Cup 1998, World Cup 2002, Euro 2004 and World Cup 2006?
@@csenterprises9632 Thanks
Even back then "Sweet Caroline" was ruining atmospheres 🤣🤣🤣.
It's class when NI sing it. Pity that 15 years later England had to try to steal it off us...
*thinking i know better than a Scudetto winning manager with nearly 20 years of hindsight on my side*:
4-1-2-1-2
GK Robinson
RB Wright-Phillips
RCB Carragher
LCB Ferdinand
LB A. Cole
CDM Hargreaves
LCM Gerrard
RCM Beckham
CAM Lampard
FWD Rooney
FWD Owen
Not a bad idea starting Rooney on the left, he did a job out there often enough for United but it went terribly wrong in the 1st half as he looks to have something of a meltdown out there. I dont think Sir Alex wouldve accepted that. Foreshadows what happened against Carvalho and Portugal in Germany the following summer.
2:09:51 if Feeney's shot was more accurate it could've definitely been 2-0.
Or James Quinn's early in the second half.
Bloody brilliant goal
I would like to think the Northern team would celebrate if we do well because we are happy when they do well.
I was very glad to see both teams make it to the Euros in 2016. Hopefully one day we can have an all ireland team just like the Rugby.
@@Ilovecats1236Perhaps you should stop singing Up 'RA and instead sing Zombie.....you might have a chance
I have seen precious few RoI fans celebrate any NI success and I don't think any NI fan cares what anyone in the south thinks.
For me, I'm delighted when the RoI lose and Thierry Henry is an all time legend. May the RoI's harvest be forever nothing but tares.
@@markchambers3833 are you just filled with hate?
@@Ilovecats1236And, if you knew your history, you'd know that the reason there isn't an "all Ireland" team is because the Republic of Ireland team exists. There was one Ireland team but the big Dublin clubs didn't want to play for an association based in Belfast.
No NI fan wants an all-Ireland team, we're very happy having our own wee team representing our own wee country. Thanks for the offer but we're grand as we are. 👍
Even the players were too ashamed to sing the anthem. They were like: "why should we sing the same anthem? There is no UK in footbal"😅
Can you do Germany vs. England WC2010?
First time Sweet Caroline was ever sung by the NI Fans. So Good So Good So Good, you hear it near the end of the Video. 2:14:05
Ruined by the guy singing the anthem, leave the crowd to it
Linekar’s intro at 2:05
Wtf?
Only 2005 as well
What’s the problem? He’s white and Wrighty is black. Is it racist to state a fact now? Christ.
@@cmcg3738 not racist. Just a bit weird, and I doubt you’d see him introduce in a similar way nowadays.
Different times, even in the early to mid 2000's
He was talking about Owen joining Newcastle a week before and mimicking the Geordie accent, nothing to do with colour of skin.
Long live Sir David!
No anthem?
Just one anthem.
@@csenterprises9632 didn’t hear it
@@kjdempsey turn your sound on because the national anthem was played on this video.
If I'm not wrong the only two teams in the world with the same anthem?!!!
Greece and Cyprus too. Also, when England or Northern Ireland play against Lichtenstein the same instrumental anthem plays twice because they have the same melody but different lyrics, so technically is a different anthem.
Not really
Yeah greece and cyprus to also Korean teams
@@ervinhysenaj4125 ROK and the DPRK have two separated anthems
Scotland? Wales? Do they not have the same anthem?
Great strong questions at the end from garth crooks 2:20:44 . Nothing like the media friendly questions of today.
The cubic Zirconian generation ...
Was are cup final
Northern Ireland might have won this game but they didn’t qualify Lol. as there was 3rd in the group. England came top
This isn't the flex you think it is.
Easy!!! ⚽️💚😁👍
The golden generation who achieved nothing
YES NORTHERN IRELAND
Lets split Ireland in 2 so they can't share resources to beat us in football.
Well that worked.
it was an all ireland team well after the split
got the same national anthem 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 pathetic
No shit Sherlock
Same country (UK), same anthem. How exactly is that pathetic?
England and NI are constituent nations of the same country, the United Kingdom. Of course they use the same anthem.
You're showing your ignorance laddie.
Wee huns can’t think for themselves always following England around like an annoying little brother 🤣🤣🤣🤣
John Motson is deluded Northern Ireland not Irish 🙈🙈
That ones up for debate. Identify is a VERY confusing thing in NI. Also anytime I go abroad and tell people I'm from Northern Ireland they say 'Oh you're Irish'? What's even weirder is Ian Paisley, ex leader of the DUP Identified as Irish.
Before partition, many unionists identified as Irishmen despite rarely being ethnically Irish. Almost all unionists were of British descent, primarily Scotstish and English and to a much smaller extent, Welsh.
The question is, what matters more, ethnicity or geography? You can't say that the unionist British in Northern Ireland can be fairly represented as Irish.
Today, I definitely wouldn't call your average Unionist 'Irish' because that's not how probably 98% of Unionists today would see themselves. However I think it was fair at the time for unionists before partition to identify as Irish because some did have irish Catholic roots, and others who possibly didn't were born and raised in Ireland and obviously felt Irish to identify as that.
Unionists born after partition most likely stopped seeing themselves as Irish due to them not identifying with the irish nationalist majority in Ireland and I think the final nail in the coffin for any 'Irish Unionist' was the beginning of the troubles.
Every replay of Englands game I watch is a loss or tie against weaker country ahhahahah
Only time Northern Ireland beat England.
Only time they will ever beat us. They should treasure this video.
Not true. Northern Ireland beat England in 1972 and 1957 and a few draws in between. They also beat England in 1927 but back then Northern Ireland didn't play under the name 'Northern Ireland' they played just as 'Ireland' until 1954.
@@Ilovecats1236NI played as Ireland until the late 1970s in British Championship matches. It was only FIFA (and later UEFA) matches that were affected by FIFA's ruling in the mid-50s.
Something to do with our friends in the south trying to steal our name (as well as our history!). FIFA did at least recognise the IFA as the legitimate custodians of the Ireland team. Hence the quirk that Northern Ireland are the fourth oldest international football side in the world, even though the country was only founded in 1921.
No, it's not. We've had several wins down the years. And of course you should remember, NI are the reigning British champions, having won the last two British Championships held in 1980 and 1984.
Still British Champions. England don't want to play us, must be scared or something. 😂 I don't believe NI and England have ever played a friendly match.
But we're still British Champions. I'm sure we'd be happy to put our title on the line. But your lot don't seem to be up for the challenge...
Imagine England fans coping about a loss 20 years ago by stating their superior head to head record against Northern Ireland. You might consider expectations here folks!
What's next? Bragging about beating Tonga in the rugby world cup?
David Healy was an awful awful player but always came up with important goals on the international stage.
Really? An "awful, awful player"? 😂
He was a technically accomplished player, an excellent finisher with a good long range shot on him. He just lacked pace which is why he never made it in the premier league.
He's highly regarded at Leeds and Preston where he spent most of his career.
I have no idea why you think he's awful. But we can safely assume he's a better footballer than you.
Healy was class
Stevie Gerrard was so toxic to the England team. Always trying the spectacular. Always going to get a ball that's not his.
2.15 straight up racism from Gary
No it isn't
Ruthless
North of Ireland 🇮🇪👍
2 of worse teams in the world
Worst*
You silly goose
Lol..on paper that England team was class..just not on the pitch