Bill Maher isn't a Fan of Bob Dylan w/ Sammy Hagar
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"..Who is Bill Maher?" - Bob Dylan.
Amazing.
Bob Dylan isn't just "a great lyricist". He's also a great songwriter. Meaning, the actual compositional skeleton of Dylan songs are often BRILLIANT. That's why they're covered all the time ("All Along The Watchtower", "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", "Mr.Tambourine Man" etc. Dylan's whole schtick is understatement. He'll say brilliantly poignant lyrics like a casual hillbilly. He'll present gorgeous chordal structures on a jangly sloppily played guitar. His whole schtick is "casual brilliance", which is why artists regard him as so cool. Instead of being cringey and self-importantly dramatic in his arrangements and delivery, it's like he just casually tosses out the blueprint of utter brilliance that OTHER musicians more into productions and big arrangements can build off. Make no mistake. Dylan is a generational musical talent of the highest order.
I Love the combo of profound lyrics with simple chords.
Love that reference to casual brilliance. Brings to mind the Italian concept of Sprezzatura...brilliant wo the appearance of trying to be so. Dylan will be studied for generations like how Shakespeare is today.
And Bill has proven you don't have to be funny to be a comedian.
Oh snap
I'm conservative, and often don't agree with Maher; but he makes me laugh even when his point doesn't line up with mine. Different strokes.
But he is solving all the world's problems....for free!!
@@ArmorUpPodcast777 Bravo 👏 👏
@@shawnhall5322 I’m a conservative too, but he is funny. He’s a conservative too, but identifies as a liberal😂😂😂. He’s like a transgender, being one thing but identifying as another. He’s clearly in favour of capitalism and free markets, he likes the death penalty. He thinks woke ideology is nonsense. Anyone who even remotely thinks capitalism is good is a conservative.
I just realized I could never have a drink and talk music with Bill
Bill has been really grating lately. I used to like his take on things but these days it's just like...what are you talking about Bill?
@@eltravos99 dylan is king bill dont get no respect from his people his age smh
I like how bill started bashing Dylan and then said he has 20 of his songs on his iPod
Right ....exactly.
Bill does not know anything about music. He has terrible taste. He knows it but his Hubris doesn’t.
Bill Maher trash's Dylan/Sammy Hagar defends Dylan...then Maher goes on to say he even likes his more produced 80's material which Hagar thinks Nashville Skyline came out and Maher knows the year it it did. Then Maher gives Hagar a Dylan history lesson as if he's talking to a first grader and Hagar seems fascinated. Weed is a good drug.
Maher is insufferable
He is painfully pompous and lacks self-awareness. I despise him and have no idea what is appealing about him.
He never got booed of stage Sammy. They booed and heckled and Bob played on and talked shit to them.
Exactly, the booing just made Dylan want to play harder and louder. It amazed Robbie Robertson and I'm sure the rest of the Band. The booing did drive Levon Helm to quit for a while though.
@@NJcruiser Yeah, the video of it shows Bob - amidst the booing - turning to his band and telling them to play it "fucking loud!!!!"🎸
I love how even Maher can’t even make a convincing argument about Dylan maybe not being great. Because that’s how amazing he is.
They dont have souls (the nose tribe)
@@Arthagnou you should...
109 and counting..
Dylan the goat bill a nerd
Well, he said Dylan is not a good singer, I think that's reasonable.
@@77Fortran it is not.
Dylan is so great that even when u try to make a point about how maybe he isn’t you still make him sound amazing.
Bill is clueless
-Bob Dylan is no good
-James Bond movies are no good
-Hitchcock movies are no good
Bond movies do suck! Dylan is a bore!
He said Hitchcock movies are no good?!
Well he's right about James Bond and most Hitchcock.
@@RMT192 psycho and the birds are no good?
It's cool to have your own opinions, but anyone who doesn't like Dylan, and ALSO doesn't like Hitchcock has increased my chances of not liking them by like 80 percent
Dylan changed what a rock song could be. He was a visionary. More innovative than polished. I’m not a huge fan, but without Dylan the history of rock music would be a lot less rich.
Bob Dylan certainly is one of the most influential songwriters of all time.
Even just, the amount of songs sung by other artists where I later on found out that he infact wrote them is amazing:
"If Not For You" - George Harrison, "This Wheel's on Fire" - The Byrds, "The Mighty Quinn" - Manfred Mann etc.
@Niko I'll throw in one extremely important cover; All Along the Watchtower, James Marshall Hendrix. "There must be some kinda way outta here . . ."
mr. tambourine man - the byrds, it aint me babe - Turtles, Knocking on heaven's door - million people.
What Dylan did was open up the subject matter. Before Dylan, the only subjects you were allowed to sing about in rock & roll were girls, cars, and surfing.
don't forget hound dogs!
Bob is one of the greatest songwriters of all times. Love his music, and love him. Don’t see him live much anymore because I don’t like to hear Visions of Johanna in a fast jazz beat, but God Bless the man and everything he has done.
Maybe, but I always found his style of "singing" weird and did not like it, many people say he is great because that's what is cool to say
@@thomasjust2663 so because you find his singing weird, it means others just say they like it to be cool? Ok boss.
His arrangements are like the weather, every day is another adventure...
@@thomasjust2663 Huge Dylan fan, and I don't necessarily blame people if they don't personally like him. I get that the vocals can be a tough pill to swallow.
I hope he gets Penn Jillette on here soon to set him straight on Dylan!
Dylan is probably one of the greatest singers to ever live.
LOL! Singer? come one dude!
@@ricomajestic
Go listen to nashvil skyline for the greatest country singer
Go listen to times they are a changing for the greatest folk singer
Then listen to blond on blond for the greatest rock n roll singer
Then go listen to time out of mind for the most thought provoking singer
Yeah right.
He’s not even top ten
@@maxhammer4067 Dylan isn’t good
Bill Maher is hardly an arts critic. Seriously! LOL. It's 2022 and he's talking about Dylan in the 1960's? WTF. He missed the whole journey.
It’s two old guys talking. What did you expect?
Jealousy!
Bill's opinions are always blowin' in the wind.
I’m sure Dylan has been waiting for Bob Maher to ‘give it to him’.
Man, is this an ignorant discussion of Dylan. Maher can only come up with 20 or 25 Dylan songs that are worthy of his collection? Anyone with a familiarity with Dylan's 60 year recording career could hit 100 in a heartbeat ... and keep going from there. He really shouldn't be opining on stuff he obviously knows very little about. Hey, Dylan did win the Nobel Prize for Literature. That should tip him off that there's a whole ocean of incomparable songs there.
39 albums and Bill can only "cultivate" 20-25 useable tunes. I love to hear hosts talk about music. I'm a lover of art but I don't walk through a museum and critique their ability and say, "not my favorite".
@@slipstreammonkey I watch Club Random and hear a lot of Bill's music comments. He appears to be a typical music 'fan' who knows very little about what he is hearing.
Bill Is one Of Those Guy’s Thats Almost Impossible To Get Along With - But We Tolerate Him For The Entertainment 🤡
@Zachary Sewell i’m a big fan also - i am speaking for myself, and a few others - other than yourself. Relax 😂
@@deanbodishowpodcast9437 no the only person you're speaking for is yourself. Make that known next time
@Zachary Sewell That's objectively not true. I can name 2 senators and several congressman that disproves that. You should be really careful about making easily disprovable blanket statements
@@richardarnez4932 No 😎
@@deanbodishowpodcast9437 And you like your own comment? Yeah that's not strange at all.
I’m no expert but if anything was selling out it was the acoustic period. Going electric was more an attempt to do what he wanted to do not just what would appeal to his already established audience. I think he regularly talked about being a rock n roller in his youth.
Wow, I've never considered it that way before. Interesting take!👍
‘Highway 61 Revisited’ came out in 1965. Listen to other albums from 1965 like ‘Help’ and ‘Rubber Soul’ from the Beatles. Or any of the three Beach Boys albums of that year. In terms of the Rock genre nobody compared to Dylan. ‘Highway 61 Revisited’ was not only a pivotal rock and roll album but one for music. Bill says 80’s Dylan and brings up “Like a Rolling Stone” which clearly shows people are clueless about how good he is. Dylan was one of the best musicians ever and his prime was 1965-1966. What I really mean is ‘Bringing It All Back Home’ ‘Highway 61 Revisited’ and ‘Blonde on Blonde’ are landmarks in music history. Along with ‘Blood On The Tracks’ a decade later.
bill a nerd dylan is the best by far and is still going to this day
Dylan's hit and miss live but I have no issue with his voice it's an authentic voice. There's a lot of people with talent out there but it's not authentic it sounds soulful but has no soul
I've got all of Dylan's studio albums, live albums and bootlegs. He takes up about 1/10 of my ITunes collection. 🤣 His hits like Rolling Stone and Blowin' in the Wind are overplayed. You gotta listen to an entire album and you'll get a real taste of who he is as a musical magician. Just don't use headphones because with his voice, you'll get massive migraine after awhile. Nobody sings like Dylan. Nobody writes like Dylan. Nobody can replicate his genius. The ultimate 'Idgaf' artist! The Band is the best band of all time, full stop!
"This wheels on Fire" is my deepcut
Damned Fucking straight man.
Very few of my favourite musicians are singers in the strictest sense of the word. Bob, Neil, Jimi, Jerry Garcia, John Prine, Townes Van Zandt, Steve Earle. Robbie Robertson. But all of them have distinctive voices, both in terms of how they sound as well as the songs that they have written. Those kind of performers do more for me than Frank Sinatra or Michael Bublé ever could. People who get hung up on less-than-perfect intonation are surface listeners and will never be able to appreciate real music preformed by real musicians. They deserve the auto-tuned crap they are force fed on the radio. If someone is unable to appreciate the brilliance of an album like "Blood on the Tracks", even if it might not be exactly their taste, then they are a lost cause. Some folks just like to have music on in the background, and that's OK too.
Dylan is the Picasso of contemporary music
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 great quote!
When Bob Dylan started he was intentionally doing an old folk vocal style called “high lonesome.” He kinda just kept that style and evolved it into his own thing, since that was the style he was known for. When he actually sings it straight, he was technically a pretty good vocalist.
I love this comment section! Dylan is an absolute legend.
Dylan can’t sing….. stoopid statement …… some people just don’t get it ‼️‼️
It's all down to personal taste. I don't like his voice at all
Bob Dylan's lyrics are even worse than his voice.
Sammy Hagar is 74yrs old. He looks great for his age.
it's the tequilla & the fact he never learned how to play guitar!
he has a nice disposition.
Now 76. ⏳
Bill - Blood On The Tracks.
As good as any Beatles album
Great album.
I can't believe Sammy is 75... This really makes me feel old. I'm only 44 but the fact that he was huge when I was growing up and is now so much older throws me for a bit of a loop. I'll be happy to even make it to 75, but it's just so nuts how fast time flies.
Seize the day, young man. Best regards, from a 54-year old (to whom 44 feels like it was just a few weeks ago) ⏳
It’s obvious that Bill can’t play an instrument, or can he?, Dylan is a fantastic singer end of story…
Not The band, it was Al Kooper on organ and The Paul Butterfield Blues Band that backed Dylan at Newport!
Without doubt, Dylan has been a great songwriter for several decades. Many of his songs are amongst my favorites.
I love dylans voice and music and he has never been a sellout
Did I hear Bill equate Woody Guthrie to Burl Ives?? I guess it shows that some who are really smart in some areas can also be massively ignorant in others. After that, i would not be surprised if he also compared Freddie and the Dreamers to the Beatles.
Bill Maher knocking Leadbelly. The ignorance.
His Dylan impression made me laugh so hard it’s so funny
its actually pretty bad - seen many better impersonations.
It’s funny that Bill thinks there’s a bunch of kids listening to him and Sammy Hagar talk about Bob Dylan
Dylan is the greatest living writer on the planet. Other musicians may be more aesthetically pleasing but don’t come close to possessing Dylan’s intellectual talent.
He’s not better than any hip hop artist
@@The_king567 you're absolutely correct with that statement. He isn't better than any hip hop artist. He's better than EVERY hip hop artist.
@@guillermo3564 nah he’s not better than any none of his songs are good there’s a reason y only white baby boomers like Dylan
@@The_king567 Calm down, Ari Melber
@@leilanisimmons8431 it’s true
no matter how hard Bill tries.....he ain't getting many views on his lil' podcast
Bill should listen to Ballad of a Thin Man, because it’s about a guy just like him🎶🎶🎶
another reason for liking Burl Ives- he would rid the the world of the pompous and moronic Bill Maher
"Love and Theft, " coincidentally, released September 11th, 2001... is freaking phenomenal .
Slayers God hates us all was released on 9-11-2001 also
@@jlobiafra Interesting!
Yes, my favorite of Bob’s “recent” albums.
And eerily prophetic to be released on 9/11: “Sky full of fire, pain pouring down…” (Mississippi)
There's nothing more head shaking than being trashed for not loving every single bit of work an artist ever put forth. I can't think of one band/performer that has 100% approval of the audience for 100% of their entire catalog.
People also need to grow up and realize that the rest of the world is not required to love the same artists as you. If you can't get through life knowing that many people have different tastes than you, the problem lies with YOU.
@Roger W well said, my friend, very well said.
Dylan went electric with the paul Butterfield blues band
Yeah, i was gonna say...later on he started looking for a backing band.
This should be called "Bill Maher invites famous people to listen to him talk."
blood on the tracks is a great album! all tracks good!
Not that Bill's about to start nootropic micro-dosing for memory (nevermind studying Dylan's 63-years-long music career) but Bob didn't play his electric set at Newport with The Band. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band backed him up, with Al Kooper and psych-blues guitarist Mike Bloomfield knocking out the decibels. Months prior, when he first recorded electric, it was John Hammond, John Sebastian, and other studio musicians for Side 2 of Bob's fifth album. When he was later called "Judas" by an audience member in May 1966 on his UK tour (by that point touring with The Hawks), he did something Maher couldn't. Maher isn't even a Mr. Time Magazine, he's a "just play the hits" guy. When Bill Maher gets even muted responses by people supposedly there to laugh at and applaud every statement, he whines his way through repeating his point. He may as well be complaining to his agent. Dylan turned to Robbie Robertson and the rest - Garth Hudson, Richard Manuel, Rick Danko, and Mickey Jones - and shouted "PLAY IT FU**ING LOUD!" And they did.
Bill is great, but he's over his head when it comes to music.
Bob Dylan , “Walls of Red Wing” makes me cry when I think of so many young people who have had and continue to have this experience.
DYLAN
Smoke you're pot And disregard a true Genius,,, something you are far from,,,
And Kim Kardashian proved you don’t have to have a personality to be a personality
Bill is not a music aficionado...to say the least.
He never said that he didn’t like Dylan
poor sammy cant even talk. Hoily shit he has some patience.
If Bob Dylan were playing in my backyard I’d call the cops. AWFUL.
So often I tune in to listen to Bill Maher , due to his reputation as an intelligent satirist of contemporary culture, but once again he has disappointed me. Let me just start with the old worn out trop "Dylan can't sing". What a drag. Next to his lyrics, anyone who is even slightly familiar with his career will say, 'oh, its his phrasing, its his phrasing that is second to none'; which is a huge part of what singing is all about. Then there is the melody. Just listen to his songs covered by other artists, this is when you hear the melody clearest due to it being disconnected from the man himself, giving the listener the opportunity to hear he melody for what it is. Back to Maher; to say he's "not great", then back track by saying well he has 25 songs on my iPod, clearly demonstrates he doesn't know what he is talking about. Just listen to any of the "Greatest Hits" albums. Listen to Dylans 3 CD box set "Anthology", which was released in the mid-80's, there for not even halfway through his career, but has close to 50 songs on it, all of which are great. Maher is the con.
One of my favorite aspects of being a fan of Bob is listening to people tell me why they don’t like Bob.
Everybody is scared to say what they think!!!not me!! Not you!!!
Going to a gig with Bill Maher would be hell
I honestly agree with bill
The audience couldn't hear him so they booed.
Happened in movie theaters when something goes wrong with the sound or the visuals.
Dylan calls himself a song and dance man.
He moves awkwardly on stage and now, he barely moved at all because of mobility issues.
I love his voices
Bill's favorite band is Green Day.
There are a few things in music. Fun, looks, technical
or originality
or just plain odd or gifted songwriters or a little of all.
Bob dylan is originality and songwriting. On those, he is a genius.
For someone who doesn't like Bob Dylan, he sure seems to know a lot about him.
This title might be misleading. It sounds like Bill has a ton of his music on his iPod but that it can be hard to find versions of him he likes to consistently listen to.
Bill has a problem with Dylan that's so brave
Maher's podcast is really growing on me
"The cold blooded Moon, the Captain waits Above the celebration sending his thoughts to a Beloved Maid whose Ebony face is beyond communication. The Captain is down but still believing that his Love will be repaid. They shaved her head. She was torn between Jupiter and Apollo when a messenger arrived, with a Black Nightingale. I seen her on the stairs. And I couldn't help but follow. Follow her down, past the fountain. Where they lifted her Veil! - Changing of the Guards
There isn’t a problem in the world Bill Maher cure. That a quote from Norm MacDonald. The guy has got all the answers.
Bob Dylan > Bill Maher
Put down the splif Bill it’s affecting your auditory nerves
They Booed him because they were ignorant Bill...Dylan's brilliance continues to shine...
Bill Maher still uses an iPod?
Well I doubt if Dylan is much of a fan of Bill Maher either! Maher tends to get a little tanked up on these shows but that’s ok.
December 1980 I was at a Bob Dylan. He did not have a singing voice
Ok Bill, I'm born in '85 and people my age and younger all know what Hagar meant when he said The Band lol. No need to clarify lol
Obviously can’t begin to understand the complexity and depth of Dylan’s talent. To say he can’t sing is alone enough to disqualify you from speaking his name.
The amusing thing here is that Maher is exactly the kind of reactionary who would have disapproved of Dylan going electric
I don't think anyone watching this is young enough to NOT know who the Band are/were.
Love you Bill - human. Remember!?!
Dylan's great on record. On stage not so much. I say that as a fan. His ricketiness live is legendary and hilarious.
For the most part, I would agree with you. First of all, Dylans 's band, after 1997 or so, has been his best the best since "The Band." I Have seen Dylan at least 25 times since then. I have seen him great, mediocre and straight out contemptuous of the Midwestern audience who still want to hear acoustic folk Dylan.
@@ryanenlow2687 Oh, man, I've seen Dylan at least 50 times in the past 20 years and he's pretty much always amazing. The audiences and the settings might not always be, but he is. I feel really badly for all these people who've bought the myths about him not being utterly amazing in concert. He's a realy artist always in the process of creating something new, not a has-been out to entertain people with replicas of this old hits just like on the album decades ago. Everything is changing with Dylan.
Rickety for sure! Great way to describe him live. I saw a couple of concerts in the 90's when G.E. Smith was playing with him. And I swear G.E. was leading the whole thing. Dylan looked confused and as though he was struggling with what was going on, like he was following G.E. on what chords to play etc. Many, maybe even most of the songs bordered on being unrecognizable because of the way he was singing. Still, cracking band and great show.
@@mitchsmeyer Can't argue with Truth my man 😁
Im a music first lyrics later kinda guy, in the same group as Cobain...but come on Bill, "Tangled up in Blue"?....lemme put it this way, Dylan packs so much more in 6 minutes than most screenwriters do in 2 hours
Judging by the comments here, Dylan fans are very very devoted to the dude and will brook no criticism. Bill Maher just said, "I like a lot of people better than Dylan." This is not blasphemy and Dylan is not a religious icon.
And his comment that he "proved you don't have to sing to be a singer" is dead on. Dylan's value, imo, is that he inspired rock lyricists to be more ambitious. And he's also responsible for the singer-songwriter movement of the late 60s and the 70s.
dylan the goat bill the goat of what nothing
Part of the premise of this podcast ("Club Random") and other podcasts is the spontaneous nature of the conversation. However, one big risk of this format is that someone is likely to talk out the ass, especially under the influence.
Yeah, Bill will tell you he prefers Sinatra, Streisand, and Billy Joel. You need to know where he’s coming from.
"'Cause something is happening and you don't know what it is. Do you, Mr. Jones?" Listen to Bill and you will learn to shut up, when you don't understand the subject. Now, listen to Bob. )
Someone sound the boomer alarm!!!
If Bill Maher has 20 songs of Sammy Hagar in his iPod and he's arguing about Dylan's greatness, he needs to smoke A LOT more pot.
I feel the same way about the Beatles, I am sorry I just never got the appeal, Queen on the other hand I think were beyond incredible.
There is nothing that can be done for people like you.
Bill is artistically incompetent. Imagine hearing some of Dylan's EPIC early acoustic stuff ("Masters Of War", "A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall", "Mr. Tambourine Man", etc.), and thinking you "can't stand that stuff". And trying to separate "lyrics" from "music" isn't how music works. The lyrics and delivery informs the melodies and chords, and vice versa. Some of Dylan's early acoustic stuff is amongst the most piercing acoustic folk ever recorded.
Can Grandpa Bill go 5 minutes without talking about how clueless young people are? Most of the changes in this country that he hates were caused by his generation, not ours. Used to be a big fan, but Jesus Christ.
Ok so the end Bob Dylan is good? I’m confused by what Bill said.
Dylan is the greatest artist of the last hundred years
That’s cap
Taylor Swift is giving all of them a run for their money.
Welcome to real life BILLY !!!!
"Kids, there was a band called The Band." LOL Hey Bill, that kid was me in the late 70s going to see The Last Waltz. Who is the band???
Bill , Steve Jobs created that IPOD with Dylan in mind ...
Yes he that is a KUKUSTIC guitar Maher! (2:01); He used to play KUKUSTIC then he went MLECTRIC!
Bill making himself out to be a fool
He hasn't listened to Idiot Wind or Romance in Durango or something
Dylan is not a great poet. He just ripped off other poets.