the actor who plays that attorney is really good bc every episode he’s in, he drives me up the f*cking wall. he’s so infuriating and gets me actually angry. so good on him for being that good at his job, but man, i really hate that character.
Yup! I was screaming at the tv all he should have done was had an action movie director up there proving that the big difference between rape videos and actual rape is there's a meeting before hand, a director and it's ACTING. Also this judge should be thrown off the bench.
way different scenario... you cant compare... Im not saying a sex worker " deserves" to be assaulted but theres definitely consequences for exposing yourself
The biggest flaw in this episode is that Porn Actresses/Actors have to sign a contract before anything is filmed. There are also heavy regulated laws that protect their rights. I wish this episode touched on that more.
I will make you want to have sex. If a men rapes a women on Ritalin, it will be about sex. Rapist with Ritalin addiction will first ask you if you're single or go on dating flirt site. If you scream at a man that on ADHD drugs, a man will be afraid of you and will go on a dating web site
@@partypiano0729 When words like "no" and "stop" are part of an act, the party playing the victim is given a "safe word" to mean to seriously stop. I would guess the safe word would be in the contract.
I'm sure the actor who plays him is a nice guy. But for my head, Buchanan as a character cancels any kind of niceness out. So cannibal thanksgiving dinner here he comes. As the main course.
@Michael Moretti If you have a girlfriend, does she cheat much? If you have a wife, does she cheat much? *I wouldn't doubt either with a GIRLY-MAN like you...*
Professionally, that's one of the highest compliments one can give an actor who plays an antagonist role. Take Jack Gleeson, who played Joffrey Baratheon in GoT. He's a sweet, caring guy, but he portrayed that sonuvab**ch so well that people freaking hate him.
There was nothing wrong with the judge. There was no evidence to prove that it was truly rape. Her "no" in the video with the two boys was no different from her "no" in all the rape porn videos she had done. Ergo, the boys, or at least one of them, was set free. It is a truly sick thing when justice isn't served, however, proof is everything when in the court room.
+Dahar Nazari yes well the law is the law, if you can't prove your case other than simply he said she said, then sorry you don;t have a case, people should not be convicted of a crime simply from "listen and believe" there has to be actual evidence and that is why the majority of rape cases are so hard to prosecute becasue there is always doubted evidence and a "he said, she said" argument.
I thought the judge would come back for a few more episodes and this crap happened, the writers would've made him a corrupt judge. still, nothing happens
This episode makes me cry every time I watch it. How is it so hard to understand that a person has the right to decide when and where and with who they have sex! Everyone no matter their job or sexual history or anything is less of a person than anyone else. No one is just a sex object to be used.
But there are two points that you're missing the first one which attorney rightfully points out is how can you depict yourself as a victim when you basically allowed yourself to be forced to that on camera over and over again. In the way I think that she kind of deserve that because by doing those films depicting forcible sex in normalizing at its ending the wrong message and it's going to encourage people to do just that. So why is she sending the wrong message all this time? You say no one is just a sex object to be used but that's what her videos are encouraging
@@Ddstairclimber " In the way I think that she kind of deserve that because by doing those films depicting *gun violence* in normalizing at its ending the wrong message and it's going to encourage people to do just that. So why is she sending the wrong message all this time? You say no one is just a shooting target to be used but that's what her videos are encouraging" Do you think people who star in movies with gun violence deserve to be shot?
This actress did such a good job. It's ridiculous to argue these two are the same. In one you call yell cut and it will stop. It's like saying you acted like you were in a fight on tv so why are you mad someone punched you on the street.
@@elisejackson2854 what do you need? A film? Oh, there was one! Electrodes strapped to her head while she gets raped, and an expert to testify that she was being traumatized? May you realize one day what you are criticizing.
Joe Whitehead whether or not he was guilty. If there is any chance of doubt, a person cannot be given a guilty verdict. In order to give a guilty verdict there cannot be any reasonable doubt. There wasn’t enough evidence to point that there was no reasonable doubt, meaning there was still a chance that he was innocent.
I mean, the difference between a customer and a thief is that one paid and one didn’t, but I don’t see anyone acquitting people accused of shoplifting based on that same logic
Regardless of whether or not the young lady was an actress portraying a rape victim or a real victim, it did NOT give the defense attorney license to treat her with such blatent disrespect, whether he gets paid to be cut-throat or not. It sounds like during the times when she was acting and when it happened for real she was saying no anyway, so the defense attorney was out of line.
+rosieandmoka "Regardless of whether or not the young lady was an actress portraying a rape victim or a real victim, it did NOT give the defense attorney license to treat her with such blatent disrespect, " yes it does, in fact that's part of the job, the job of the defense is to tear part and or cast doubt on the story/testimony of the prosecution and it's witnesses, and vice versa, you may not like it but that's the way it goes. "It sounds like during the times when she was acting and when it happened for real she was saying no anyway, so the defense attorney was out of line." No he wasn't, the point is there is no proof and or evidence other than conjecture and accusation that her, "no" in this case was any different than the dozens of other times she said it, hence that the case boils down to her word it is true, and unfortunately your word is not enough to convict someone of rape, allegedly, people seem to not care about the importance of evidence and law and instead think everything should run on "listen and believe". god help us all.
+TVLubber2 because he wasn't, this is how the job is done, for all i hate about defense attorneys, i have to say they are necessary to the law because they are what keep us from convicting innocent people and or people who did not commit a crime by using such tactics and yes innocent people are and have been convicted, sentenced to life, death, killed in prison etc. on the failures of the system and the testimony of liars and cheats.
End of this episode was so infuriating. They watched her take some sort of drug right in front of them, and that was excuse to simply arrest her and get her out of there.
Even the actors/actresses who portray the bad guys even the defense attorneys in this TV show do a really good job with their acting cause i know they want people to feel the hate in how flawed our criminal justice system is
It's so sad that when defense lawyers are allowed to disrespect the victims just because they are doing their job. I've been watching a lot of these forensic and courtroom episodes the past 10 years and each time I still feel for the victims when the case is one where the defense are allowed to malign the victims just because they are poor, women or engaged in a profession ThAt's not what the society view as right or acceptable. Just like what the victim said... just because she's into adult entertainment industry it does not mean she's a not a person with rights. It's really sad how provisions in the law can sometimes make the aggrieved party suffer more 😢
Menchie, you and your 75 upvoters are snowflakes, I'm sorry. For hundreds of years, the adversarial justice system has worked in the UK and the USA. The tough adversial system with a tough prosecutor and a tough defence lawyer and a tough judge. That system has been successful for the most part, even with its toughness. If you can't handle justice done the hard and right way, then that's your problem, I'm sorry, same goes to your snowflakey upvoters. As long as the lawyers and the judge and the jury are doing everything legal, then it's all good. We don't have time for this new generation of snowflakey softness. The prosecutor is there to bring his all into proving guilt beyond reasonable doubt, the defence lawyer is there to defend his client, that's it. Feelings don't matter.
But it is based in the real world with many situations based on true life events it's not a fantasy or sci fi show stuff depicted in the show happen in real life
Yeah, but the reality is that many women are discouraged to report rape because its been proven anecdotally how they will be received. When you have a drama reinforcing that opinion, even when its purpose is to empower survivors to keep at it, the reality is that actual advocacy needs to be honed. Drama is a tool for fuller perception, and vice versa.
Unless you think all cops and prosecutors are saints and infallible, never do the wrong thing or make mistakes... these lawyers are the people who keep innocent people out of jail.
+Ixchel Juarez yeah what was the judge supposed to base the conviction on, "she said so, therefore believe?" if you have no proof and no evidence you shouldn't even be in a courtroom.
No he didn’t. If she consented to the sex because she was paid, that’s still consent. She didn’t consent to the sex with those two guys because she wasn’t on the job, and she didn’t want to have sex with them. That’s non-consensual sex, aka rape.
I don't think a defense attorney can have that kind of attitude in a real court room. He sure can ask tricky question but he can behave or disrespect any witness or victim
@@HilaryCocciola Why are Lee and MondoBeno surprised? why are your 25 upvoters suprised? this is normal in my opinion for defence lawyers to ask like that.
I remember this episode when the judge overturned the jury decision. Clearly he had a child needing to get into the college. She put herself on the line and the college and the judicial system failed her. I am surprised that barbosa didn't challenge the judges decision and ask him to give a true account of his decision to the judicial committee.
I didn't see the episode but it would have been the best move to have the male actors on the stand. Go over how it was controlled and how they knew what was and wasn't allowed.
There's a fan fiction that serves a sequel to the episode. After dismissing the case, Evie is raped again multiple times. As a result, Barba's appeal of the case is brought to the judiciary disciplinary committee. Judge Briggs is permanently disbarred for abuse of power and accessory to rape, and Pryor is rearrested and retired. That fan fiction will serve as the episodes true ending
As an actress myself I understand what the issue was she goes through in a different route of acting myself it’s understandable how the victim is and to be in the situation it’s heartbreaking.
She should have said there is a code word in the porno movies if she really want it to stop, and have people Who she has worked with testify... but great episode!
I was just saying that! Get a movie director on the stand, both an adult film and like say an action film director and show that wow MOVIES AREN'T REALITY.
This episode well all svu episodes have me on the edge of my seat lol anyway keep up the great work and stay awesome I can't wait to see more videos and episodes 😀
Although the defense attorney is an irritating character. .. I honestly fan the guy playing him for the fact that his a really good actor ...he really can get into the viewer's nerves.
Mr. Buchanan didn't do anything wrong, it's the job of lawyers to be tough. And from a legal point of view, he didn't overstep his boundaries. The judge is a bit of a softie.
The sad thing is the judge overturned her victory & tried to shame her for her decision to work in the sex industry & while I hated it, it was very accurate for this episode. Sex workers &people with kinks catch all type of hell for the public's biases & perceptions. Funny enough, it's the people outside those domains that don't understand things like consent, safewords & boundaries
all i can say is he doesnt have a job as a lawyer because he is an ACTOR playing a lawyer. and second a defense attorney's job is to defend his client as long as its not illegial or unethical so the questions he asked considering the story were totally fair
BeyondEnchantment wow somebody’s triggered over someone’s opinion of 1 scene in 1 episode of a 20 season tv series... what’s new in the RUclips comments ? Lmaooo
Why do people dislike John Buchanan for doing his job to defend his client to the best of his ability, a defense attorney is suppose to be aggressive with the person who is accusing his client because they are paid to do that and so I am fine him going after if it is to help his client to be found no guilty, every defendant is USA and every will thinking has the right to have a good defense even if they are scum of the earth and guilty as sin, I love Delaney Williams, he is a very good actor and he does excellent work as Buchanan on Law & Order: Special Victims Unit SVU and he is the best.
Yeah, here's the thing about the end of this episode, remember Libby from Casting Couch, i think this episode took a little inspiration from that and turns out, Libby was never expelled from her university and she even finish her college and success to get her degree or want more 'brutal" one, Asia Carrera was member of Mensa club. So i feel she been dropped out from campus was kinda exaggerating
Because I have not watched every episode, I was always confused about this lawyer because in that mob baby episode, I thought he was found to be part of the mob or their BFF, or was that just a witness being paranoid (as he should have been, tbqh)?
Got to get armor if you choose to go into battle, and you are stepping into a mess of human bleech! Hope you've made a difference and brought some Bensonesque comfort to those who really need it.
I have to wonder about Bucanon as a person. We've seen over and over that he defends scum and acts inexcusably during trials and cross-examinations. But does Bucanon actually believe what he's saying? Does he actually want his clients to get away with rape? Or is it all a defense strategy? Even Olivia once said to him, "I know you're just doing your job." We've seen lighter sides of defense attorneys before. Does Bucanon have one? Will we ever see it?
Well he is doing his job tho, he’s a defence attorney not a district attorney/from the persecution. His job is to prove his clients innocence without knowledge of whether they actually did the crime or not to beyond reasonable doubt
I hope you don't get charged with a crime because if you do you are going to need an attorney who will have your back. Say what you want Buchanan but he's a man who is doing his job. If I'm charged with a crime and if I need a good attorney get me one that's like Buchanan.
As insufferable as the defense attorney is, he's doing exactly what he was hired to do: undermine the prosecution's case. Attorneys get disbarred for telling witnesses to lie, for committing crimes like fraud, and a number of other reasons, none of which this attorney did. What he was saying was, "Even if my clients are guilty as sin, if I can cast this much doubt on the case, was it really that strong?" Most lawyers are actually very respectful, but this guy's shtick seems to be getting the answers he wants on cross by being a jerk. It's not a bad strategy, but it doesn't always work.
not really. his whole argument was that the only difference was that she wasn't paid, ignoring the fact that she did not give consent. that was the striking difference which he completely ignored because "she also said no during the videos" because he apparently doesn't know what safe words are
Because he's a good attorney. Besides, there are hundreds of other defense attorneys like him (or worse) that still have their licenses. Buchanan, who has been a recurring defense attorney for the past *4 years*, did nothing that constitutes disbarment (let alone anything that constitutes a report to the disciplinary committee) throughout those 4 years.
+Dylan Parker the only thing he did was his job, as hard as it is to accept you have to convict people on evidence not just "listen and believe", and there was no support of her no allegation, there were no consent forms and or records to prove those other times were any different than this one, and there was enough reasonable doubt, that's how the system works and thank god, since enough innocent people get convicted under this system already, without turning the whole thing into, she says so so it must be true, evidence be damned!
Now when you choose a law career The moment you embark There is that joke you're bound to hear "A lawyer is a shark" Ignore that, it's simplistic and it's dumb Only some of you will turn out sharks, just some The rest... are chum Our topic is blood in the water Kids, it's time you faced Law school is a waste Oh yes, unless you acquire a taste for blood in the water Dark and red and raw You're nothing until the thrill of the kill becomes your only law
Can't that other lawyer at least pretend that he doesn't want his client to win? Have there ever been lawyers who've had clients so horrible they want to lose?
This was an interesting take on the Belle Knox story. Mainly because it had to eventually paint the girl into the "well I have no choice but to get gang banged by 10 guys" scene at the end....which Ms. Weeks clearly states over and over is NOT the case, but obviously NBC needed to make their view noted on the topic. As for the rest of the episode - i'm glad they stayed out of most of it and were able to have the debate go back and forth without actually picking a side. Its not for them or us to judge and good to see SVU taking up their old writing styles like they did in years ago in the "dating professor" case - where the grad student gets drunk and claims rape, but also is proven to be a little unhinged. Obviously they weren't offering that as an excuse, but they were not allowing an actual guilty/not guilty verdict to be given at the end, whereas here it was a public opinion choice.
the actor who plays that attorney is really good bc every episode he’s in, he drives me up the f*cking wall. he’s so infuriating and gets me actually angry. so good on him for being that good at his job, but man, i really hate that character.
Finally someone who sees the difference between the actor and a caracter
From what I've read the ACTOR doesn't really like his character either--but he still gives the role his best.
@@tlc6845 damn, he plays him very well though!
I was actually getting angry at him too.
And it's not just about just his character it's wt are preascuters r in general (I have to quteo him) that wt they r paid for😅🤣
Saying a sex worker deserves to be assaulted is like saying an action movie star deserves to get shot because there’s guns in the movie
Alex Larson I know I’m late but great analogy. I never thought to use that one
Alex Larson 100% right. You don’t see people arguing you can punch a stunt double because that’s their job (I’m late I know)
Yup! I was screaming at the tv all he should have done was had an action movie director up there proving that the big difference between rape videos and actual rape is there's a meeting before hand, a director and it's ACTING. Also this judge should be thrown off the bench.
THIS
way different scenario... you cant compare... Im not saying a sex worker " deserves" to be assaulted but theres definitely consequences for exposing yourself
The biggest flaw in this episode is that Porn Actresses/Actors have to sign a contract before anything is filmed. There are also heavy regulated laws that protect their rights. I wish this episode touched on that more.
I will make you want to have sex. If a men rapes a women on Ritalin, it will be about sex. Rapist with Ritalin addiction will first ask you if you're single or go on dating flirt site. If you scream at a man that on ADHD drugs, a man will be afraid of you and will go on a dating web site
So once a person signs that contract, there's no turning back? They can do everything they want to you? I mean hey you signed for it.
@@partypiano0729 When words like "no" and "stop" are part of an act, the party playing the victim is given a "safe word" to mean to seriously stop.
I would guess the safe word would be in the contract.
@@partypiano0729 that's why we have safe words and regular check ins from crew honey
Biggest flaw is everyone watching knows what happened, then compares this to real life and judges those that don't know, just speculates
God I hate the over weight attorney, he's always getting under my skin good actor/acting tho
Everyone agrees that Buchanan is irritating. But the actor playing him is excellent.
I'm sure the actor who plays him is a nice guy. But for my head, Buchanan as a character cancels any kind of niceness out. So cannibal thanksgiving dinner here he comes. As the main course.
That's actually Detective Sergeant Jay Landsman of Baltimore City homicide. ruclips.net/video/u5obDMFMFxQ/видео.html
@Michael Moretti If you have a girlfriend, does she cheat much? If you have a wife, does she cheat much? *I wouldn't doubt either with a GIRLY-MAN like you...*
emnat321 I hate him because he’s a G** damn good lawyer
If I ever were to meet that attorney guy, I’d be like, “I really hate your character on SVU. Don’t worry. It means you’re a damn good actor.”
Ya his name is Delaney Williams
Professionally, that's one of the highest compliments one can give an actor who plays an antagonist role. Take Jack Gleeson, who played Joffrey Baratheon in GoT. He's a sweet, caring guy, but he portrayed that sonuvab**ch so well that people freaking hate him.
Good ! It refers to the same issues. !
This was one of the most unfair episodes EVER!! Never hated a fake judge so much in my life, he was disgusting
This one and the one called "Legalized Rape just pissed me off to no end!!!! Both of them made me sick to my stomach!
There was nothing wrong with the judge. There was no evidence to prove that it was truly rape. Her "no" in the video with the two boys was no different from her "no" in all the rape porn videos she had done.
Ergo, the boys, or at least one of them, was set free.
It is a truly sick thing when justice isn't served, however, proof is everything when in the court room.
+Dahar Nazari yes well the law is the law, if you can't prove your case other than simply he said she said, then sorry you don;t have a case, people should not be convicted of a crime simply from "listen and believe" there has to be actual evidence and that is why the majority of rape cases are so hard to prosecute becasue there is always doubted evidence and a "he said, she said" argument.
This was great actually
I thought the judge would come back for a few more episodes and this crap happened, the writers would've made him a corrupt judge. still, nothing happens
I remember my dad telling my teen brother that! No means No! So grateful for my dad ♥️
This episode makes me cry every time I watch it. How is it so hard to understand that a person has the right to decide when and where and with who they have sex! Everyone no matter their job or sexual history or anything is less of a person than anyone else. No one is just a sex object to be used.
But there are two points that you're missing the first one which attorney rightfully points out is how can you depict yourself as a victim when you basically allowed yourself to be forced to that on camera over and over again. In the way I think that she kind of deserve that because by doing those films depicting forcible sex in normalizing at its ending the wrong message and it's going to encourage people to do just that. So why is she sending the wrong message all this time? You say no one is just a sex object to be used but that's what her videos are encouraging
Ddstairclimber I can see where you’re coming from and agree except for the she deserved it part, that not cool
@@Ddstairclimber "allowed yourself" That's the difference.
@@Ddstairclimber " In the way I think that she kind of deserve that because by doing those films depicting *gun violence* in normalizing at its ending the wrong message and it's going to encourage people to do just that. So why is she sending the wrong message all this time? You say no one is just a shooting target to be used but that's what her videos are encouraging" Do you think people who star in movies with gun violence deserve to be shot?
Ddstairclimber wow dude you need to calm down with the “ I think she deserved that”
This actress did such a good job.
It's ridiculous to argue these two are the same. In one you call yell cut and it will stop. It's like saying you acted like you were in a fight on tv so why are you mad someone punched you on the street.
I started crying at the same time as the girl, woow imagine the trauma for actual victims
And people wonder why more victims don't come forward
Fear of ridicule, backlash, shame, etc.
@@withlove2963 this makes no sense. there was no actual proof. why can't you people understand that?
@@elisejackson2854 what do you need? A film? Oh, there was one! Electrodes strapped to her head while she gets raped, and an expert to testify that she was being traumatized? May you realize one day what you are criticizing.
To think, that judge seemed to naturally dislike that SOB Bucanon, but he still overturned that completely accurate & fair verdict
Joe Whitehead he must not beat his meat
There wasn’t enough evidence to justify the jury’s verdict. There was still way too much doubt.
Blazzered Doubt about what?
Joe Whitehead whether or not he was guilty.
If there is any chance of doubt, a person cannot be given a guilty verdict.
In order to give a guilty verdict there cannot be any reasonable doubt. There wasn’t enough evidence to point that there was no reasonable doubt, meaning there was still a chance that he was innocent.
Blazzered What about the fact that his friend admitted that they both raped her?
I mean, the difference between a customer and a thief is that one paid and one didn’t, but I don’t see anyone acquitting people accused of shoplifting based on that same logic
Adam J Yes!
Nice analogy...
and consent
Regardless of whether or not the young lady was an actress portraying a rape victim or a real victim, it did NOT give the defense attorney license to treat her with such blatent disrespect, whether he gets paid to be cut-throat or not. It sounds like during the times when she was acting and when it happened for real she was saying no anyway, so the defense attorney was out of line.
But not "out of line" enough to even get reported to the disciplinary committee.
+rosieandmoka
"Regardless of whether or not the young lady was an actress portraying a
rape victim or a real victim, it did NOT give the defense attorney
license to treat her with such blatent disrespect, "
yes it does, in fact that's part of the job, the job of the defense is to tear part and or cast doubt on the story/testimony of the prosecution and it's witnesses, and vice versa, you may not like it but that's the way it goes.
"It sounds like during the times when she was acting and when it happened
for real she was saying no anyway, so the defense attorney was out of
line."
No he wasn't, the point is there is no proof and or evidence other than conjecture and accusation that her, "no" in this case was any different than the dozens of other times she said it, hence that the case boils down to her word it is true, and unfortunately your word is not enough to convict someone of rape, allegedly, people seem to not care about the importance of evidence and law and instead think everything should run on "listen and believe".
god help us all.
+TVLubber2 because he wasn't, this is how the job is done, for all i hate about defense attorneys, i have to say they are necessary to the law because they are what keep us from convicting innocent people and or people who did not commit a crime by using such tactics and yes innocent people are and have been convicted, sentenced to life, death, killed in prison etc. on the failures of the system and the testimony of liars and cheats.
+5.56 Only
You must be a republican.
Unfortunately in many Rape cases the victim often becomes the one on trial. .
She looks like she could be Rowan blanchard's sister
A Lil Bit Of Everything That’s what I said 💯
Yea I thought the same thing
At first I thought she was lol
A Lil Bit Of Everything That's exactly what I thought.
❤
No always means NO!
but how would they know?
@@elisejackson2854 They aren't deaf.
@@prideguy3233 did you even watch it?
@@elisejackson2854 Sorry but last I checked no means no.
@@prideguy3233 and last i checked you're an idiot since you still don't understand my comment.
That wasn't a "getting paid" situation tho it was RAPE smh
Yea but he used that logic to say she cried rape BECAUSE she didnt get paid
@@markelabanks4808 Yeah, and the unfortunate thing is, it worked.
Well , how can the they prove it ?
End of this episode was so infuriating.
They watched her take some sort of drug right in front of them, and that was excuse to simply arrest her and get her out of there.
I thought that was birth control.
HindsightPOV I assumed it was something to help her relax, that probably Valium or something.
so many days affter? it has no sense
I never noticed that. I just always look at her fantastic rear!
Probably a benzo or ghb
gotta give credit to the defendants attorney because he’s such a good actor and he makes me hate his character because he is so good
Even the actors/actresses who portray the bad guys even the defense attorneys in this TV show do a really good job with their acting cause i know they want people to feel the hate in how flawed our criminal justice system is
It's sad how many professional people in real life have such a brain dead understanding of how sexual abuse works.
It's so sad that when defense lawyers are allowed to disrespect the victims just because they are doing their job. I've been watching a lot of these forensic and courtroom episodes the past 10 years and each time I still feel for the victims when the case is one where the defense are allowed to malign the victims just because they are poor, women or engaged in a profession ThAt's not what the society view as right or acceptable. Just like what the victim said... just because she's into adult entertainment industry it does not mean she's a not a person with rights. It's really sad how provisions in the law can sometimes make the aggrieved party suffer more 😢
@Billy Hill Woah was that really necessary? It maybe fake, there are some grains of truth to it.
Menchie, you and your 75 upvoters are snowflakes, I'm sorry. For hundreds of years, the adversarial justice system has worked in the UK and the USA. The tough adversial system with a tough prosecutor and a tough defence lawyer and a tough judge. That system has been successful for the most part, even with its toughness. If you can't handle justice done the hard and right way, then that's your problem, I'm sorry, same goes to your snowflakey upvoters. As long as the lawyers and the judge and the jury are doing everything legal, then it's all good. We don't have time for this new generation of snowflakey softness. The prosecutor is there to bring his all into proving guilt beyond reasonable doubt, the defence lawyer is there to defend his client, that's it. Feelings don't matter.
@@aspiknf Really bad take bro🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
The problem with your comment is that you've already assumed who the victim is. Before the verdict.
When you see episodes like this, always remember that Law & Order is a drama show, not a reality show.
But it is based in the real world with many situations based on true life events it's not a fantasy or sci fi show stuff depicted in the show happen in real life
Yeah, but the reality is that many women are discouraged to report rape because its been proven anecdotally how they will be received. When you have a drama reinforcing that opinion, even when its purpose is to empower survivors to keep at it, the reality is that actual advocacy needs to be honed. Drama is a tool for fuller perception, and vice versa.
Tell that to actual victims
"You hoped it would remain private, on the Internet?!" Haha
he was so right !
5.56 Only very naive and dumb to think that😒
What's terrifying is that there are real lawyers that would do that in court because it's their job. I just don't know how they sleep at night.
Who said they do? There are, however, a great number of people who readily disassociate themselves from their own actions.
Unless you think all cops and prosecutors are saints and infallible, never do the wrong thing or make mistakes... these lawyers are the people who keep innocent people out of jail.
Did you say no? Yes. Did they do it anyway? Yes. Guilty.
It's her word against theirs. Hehe sorry i know its an old comment. Think of it if she was actually lying. Then this wouldn't work right ?
What about the cases where the girls lie. That's the thing about these cases, to all outsiders is he said, she said.
@@mirkoathukorala
There’s a confession and they filmed it all…..
What the defense attorney did is nothing compared to the judge's final veredict
That verdict was not final. He only overturned a conviction, but did nothing else after Barba said he would appeal.
The prosecution had no evidence, no tangible evidence, to prove her "no" truly meant no. Ergo due to the lack of evidence, the verdict was overturned.
+Ixchel Juarez yeah what was the judge supposed to base the conviction on, "she said so, therefore believe?"
if you have no proof and no evidence you shouldn't even be in a courtroom.
It's actually pretty hilarious
*****
all circumstantial, nothing was a smoking gun...
This episode made my blood boil, I really hope they bring back Evie in order for her to get the justice she deserves.
They never did.
That last line was brutal!
Damn, the defense attorney is good. He made one hell of a convincing argument
Wat episode is this
@@monikaedwards9310 Season 16, Episode 5: Pornstar's Requiem
no he didnt
@@itstaylor2137 Yes he did.
No he didn’t.
If she consented to the sex because she was paid, that’s still consent.
She didn’t consent to the sex with those two guys because she wasn’t on the job, and she didn’t want to have sex with them. That’s non-consensual sex, aka rape.
This is one episode I have never watched again
This episode messed me up! I couldn't believe this
Cierra Foster yep
Only snowflakes get messed up from this.
Buchanan makes Roger Kressler look like a saint
I'm surprised a defense lawyer can ask questions like these.
A defense lawyers job is too fast doubt.
Oh u'll be surprise!
I don't think a defense attorney can have that kind of attitude in a real court room. He sure can ask tricky question but he can behave or disrespect any witness or victim
@@HilaryCocciola Why are Lee and MondoBeno surprised? why are your 25 upvoters suprised? this is normal in my opinion for defence lawyers to ask like that.
I remember this episode when the judge overturned the jury decision. Clearly he had a child needing to get into the college. She put herself on the line and the college and the judicial system failed her. I am surprised that barbosa didn't challenge the judges decision and ask him to give a true account of his decision to the judicial committee.
Me: Enjoying SVU
Me: -Squints- Something's wrong
Me: EW iTS A BUCHANAN EPISODE.
I didn't see the episode but it would have been the best move to have the male actors on the stand. Go over how it was controlled and how they knew what was and wasn't allowed.
He Does Realize That Rappers Don’t Use Their Real Names Either, Doesn’t Make It Illegal
There's a fan fiction that serves a sequel to the episode. After dismissing the case, Evie is raped again multiple times. As a result, Barba's appeal of the case is brought to the judiciary disciplinary committee. Judge Briggs is permanently disbarred for abuse of power and accessory to rape, and Pryor is rearrested and retired. That fan fiction will serve as the episodes true ending
Can you link this?
Sounds like something off Wattpad.
So, to get "Justice" they have her raped multiple more times?
Damn i remember watching this on TV like it was yesterday.
No always means no, not "no, well okay lol". If you say "no", then mean "no" and stand by that "no", ALWAYS.
Delaney Williams gives a great amount of edge and then some for Mr Buchanan.
NO MEANS NO!
NO MEANS NO!
This episode was soooooooooooo upsetting
OBJECIOON !!! este fue el mejor capitulo de la temporada duelale a quien le duela
Que capitulo es
I don't care what anybody says Buchanan is one of the best characters in svu
100% True
I agree
Facts
As an actress myself I understand what the issue was she goes through in a different route of acting myself it’s understandable how the victim is and to be in the situation it’s heartbreaking.
She should have said there is a code word in the porno movies if she really want it to stop, and have people Who she has worked with testify... but great episode!
I was just saying that! Get a movie director on the stand, both an adult film and like say an action film director and show that wow MOVIES AREN'T REALITY.
Even that can be argued since you never actually here "cut" or "that's a wrap" in pornos just like you wouldn't hear it in the rape video
She should have brought up that she had a contract to be paid
This episode well all svu episodes have me on the edge of my seat lol anyway keep up the great work and stay awesome I can't wait to see more videos and episodes 😀
I love Olivia Benson she is so beautiful
Which season and episode is this?
Although the defense attorney is an irritating character. .. I honestly fan the guy playing him for the fact that his a really good actor ...he really can get into the viewer's nerves.
18 with a BANGGGG
Mr. Buchanan didn't do anything wrong, it's the job of lawyers to be tough. And from a legal point of view, he didn't overstep his boundaries. The judge is a bit of a softie.
However, of course I sympathize with the woman here, she was crying and if she indeed was raped then rape is a horrible crime.
Buchanan is a digusting pig.
Many people think empowering victims means never cross examine them or verify their stories for accuracy.
Love me some mean dose of Buchanan
It be some good character on these episodes that makes you interested in the episodes.
That guy LOOKED like Ted Bundy bro.
The sad thing is the judge overturned her victory & tried to shame her for her decision to work in the sex industry & while I hated it, it was very accurate for this episode. Sex workers &people with kinks catch all type of hell for the public's biases & perceptions. Funny enough, it's the people outside those domains that don't understand things like consent, safewords & boundaries
all i can say is he doesnt have a job as a lawyer because he is an ACTOR playing a lawyer. and second a defense attorney's job is to defend his client as long as its not illegial or unethical so the questions he asked considering the story were totally fair
BeyondEnchantment wow somebody’s triggered over someone’s opinion of 1 scene in 1 episode of a 20 season tv series... what’s new in the RUclips comments ? Lmaooo
New episode of SVU featured a judge that made an even worse call then the one here
what ep you talking about
What season and episode is this? Would like to watch it
i love the courtroom setting
what episode is this?
Why do people dislike John Buchanan for doing his job to defend his client to the best of his ability, a defense attorney is suppose to be aggressive with the person who is accusing his client because they are paid to do that and so I am fine him going after if it is to help his client to be found no guilty, every defendant is USA and every will thinking has the right to have a good defense even if they are scum of the earth and guilty as sin, I love Delaney Williams, he is a very good actor and he does excellent work as Buchanan on Law & Order: Special Victims Unit SVU and he is the best.
If I'm charged with a crime I want an attorney just like Buchanan.
in real life this would be an easy case there is a big difference between reality and fiction
We say this, but people like Brock Turner still roam our streets even when clearly guilty.
@@xElmaniix Hell four of our last seven presidents have been Rapists🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤢🤢🤢🤢
This episode made me so mad. this whole case could've been rectified if they produced a contract or payment records for the videos she'd done.
Yeah, here's the thing about the end of this episode, remember Libby from Casting Couch, i think this episode took a little inspiration from that and turns out, Libby was never expelled from her university and she even finish her college and success to get her degree or want more 'brutal" one, Asia Carrera was member of Mensa club.
So i feel she been dropped out from campus was kinda exaggerating
First time I watched this episode i was absolutely fuming at what happened near the end
Why is the judge Shelia’s husband from why did I get married?💀
Telly M you mean her ex
Lol what
Lmfaoooo
Yep I said the same thing
He probably was cured from cancer and became a lawyer Lmfaoooo
WHO HURT AMANDA FROM DIRK GENTLY?!
Because I have not watched every episode, I was always confused about this lawyer because in that mob baby episode, I thought he was found to be part of the mob or their BFF, or was that just a witness being paranoid (as he should have been, tbqh)?
Awesome episode
I’m training to work for SVU and honestly some of the things I hear and have to learn and study are horrible and just disturbing.
JJ Owens Good for you!!
Want a cookie for that
Got to get armor if you choose to go into battle, and you are stepping into a mess of human bleech! Hope you've made a difference and brought some Bensonesque comfort to those who really need it.
What happens in the end? Is there another clip from this episode?
no means no
sergeant grey from the rookie's playing the judge
I have to wonder about Bucanon as a person. We've seen over and over that he defends scum and acts inexcusably during trials and cross-examinations. But does Bucanon actually believe what he's saying? Does he actually want his clients to get away with rape? Or is it all a defense strategy? Even Olivia once said to him, "I know you're just doing your job." We've seen lighter sides of defense attorneys before. Does Bucanon have one? Will we ever see it?
Well he is doing his job tho, he’s a defence attorney not a district attorney/from the persecution. His job is to prove his clients innocence without knowledge of whether they actually did the crime or not to beyond reasonable doubt
I hope you don't get charged with a crime because if you do you are going to need an attorney who will have your back. Say what you want Buchanan but he's a man who is doing his job. If I'm charged with a crime and if I need a good attorney get me one that's like Buchanan.
@@AlexKS1992 why are you acting like im criticizing him?
0:37 That’s Demi Lovato’s ex-fiancé, the guy portraying the r*pist.
oh my
His name is max
Awesome!
As insufferable as the defense attorney is, he's doing exactly what he was hired to do: undermine the prosecution's case.
Attorneys get disbarred for telling witnesses to lie, for committing crimes like fraud, and a number of other reasons, none of which this attorney did. What he was saying was, "Even if my clients are guilty as sin, if I can cast this much doubt on the case, was it really that strong?"
Most lawyers are actually very respectful, but this guy's shtick seems to be getting the answers he wants on cross by being a jerk. It's not a bad strategy, but it doesn't always work.
He still is a pile of garbage.
I love Barba's clothes!
Rick Bignall He has the best fashion
93ers should have each other's backs. Don't worry, Hannah. Your character got a paradox eater to protect her in TARDIS Adventures Episode 143.
damn....he had a point
not really. his whole argument was that the only difference was that she wasn't paid, ignoring the fact that she did not give consent. that was the striking difference which he completely ignored because "she also said no during the videos" because he apparently doesn't know what safe words are
They need to do a update on this, i actually felt for her. I know its only a show
WAITA MINUTE THAT RIGHT THERE IS SERGEANT GREY FROM THE ROOKIE
yoooo I think ur right
Can someone tell me what happened at the end of the episode?
They found the men not guilty so they walked out free!
@@ivanniamejia1522 thanks, I hate it.
@@dianaandreagarzar312 he was founded guilty but the jury but the judge find him not guilty
What’s the name of this episode ? I gotta see how it plays out
DID YOU FIND??
She didn’t call the cops that night
All I can say is...HOW DOES THIS DEFENSE LAWYER STILL HAVE HIS LICENSE TO PRACTICE LAW?
Because he's a good attorney.
Besides, there are hundreds of other defense attorneys like him (or worse) that still have their licenses.
Buchanan, who has been a recurring defense attorney for the past *4 years*, did nothing that constitutes disbarment (let alone anything that constitutes a report to the disciplinary committee) throughout those 4 years.
Didn't he do his job though?
+Dylan Parker the only thing he did was his job, as hard as it is to accept you have to convict people on evidence not just "listen and believe", and there was no support of her no allegation, there were no consent forms and or records to prove those other times were any different than this one, and there was enough reasonable doubt, that's how the system works and thank god, since enough innocent people get convicted under this system already, without turning the whole thing into, she says so so it must be true, evidence be damned!
Because he tells it like it is
Because he's good at his job.
Now when you choose a law career
The moment you embark
There is that joke you're bound to hear
"A lawyer is a shark"
Ignore that, it's simplistic and it's dumb
Only some of you will turn out sharks, just some
The rest... are chum
Our topic is blood in the water
Kids, it's time you faced
Law school is a waste
Oh yes, unless you acquire a taste for blood in the water
Dark and red and raw
You're nothing until the thrill of the kill becomes your only law
Can't that other lawyer at least pretend that he doesn't want his client to win? Have there ever been lawyers who've had clients so horrible they want to lose?
Which season is this from
This is either about James dean or Ramon IRL
What season is this??
Which season and episode was this?
John Buchanan is my favorote attorney to hate
What was the verdict in this case?
I need a full episode
Didn’t know Sam Allardyce became a defence lawyer
Defensive manager maybe lol
This was an interesting take on the Belle Knox story. Mainly because it had to eventually paint the girl into the "well I have no choice but to get gang banged by 10 guys" scene at the end....which Ms. Weeks clearly states over and over is NOT the case, but obviously NBC needed to make their view noted on the topic. As for the rest of the episode - i'm glad they stayed out of most of it and were able to have the debate go back and forth without actually picking a side. Its not for them or us to judge and good to see SVU taking up their old writing styles like they did in years ago in the "dating professor" case - where the grad student gets drunk and claims rape, but also is proven to be a little unhinged. Obviously they weren't offering that as an excuse, but they were not allowing an actual guilty/not guilty verdict to be given at the end, whereas here it was a public opinion choice.