4:00 OMG that displacement!!! I've been hearing this on Spotify as I'm just now getting into it. I had to see if there was a video for this cause I was crazy trying to figure out those ghost notes on this groove. Straight fire!
I didn't realize how deeply this music only appeals to musicians until I started showing it to all of my friends who don't play music and they kept saying they couldn't feel the beat... WHAT?! Anyways, musicians unite around being able to spot a simple four! Haha.
A lot of people don't 'get' the snare/accent on the 3. I was playing the Purdie Shuffle behind some bluesy stuff and a couple hicks in the crowd decided to be very vocal that they didn't like what I was playing.
IT's got to be the most fascinatingly beautiful piece of music to ever come from humans... the time signature, the profound lyrics, the almost religious harmonisation, the feeling of unease... hauntingly beautiful and stunningly creative.
Just discovered Jose James today, and then I got steered to Richard Spaven. Mind is so blown today. I love everything about this genre. Whatever this is, fusion?
Spaven is playing odd meter which is fairly standard in good jazz drumming. It's not breakbeat at all. Breakbeat is derived from funk which leads with the kick drum on the one of every phrase and is 4/4. What Spaven is doing here is far more complex. Varied sub groups odd meter. In many of his phrases here he leads with the hat and the kick is after the one. (Like many jazz standards) Spaven is a modern jazz drummer first in style and innovation. If you try to count 4 over 4 , you will begin to notice the pattern is off in places by the end of the riff. that's the odd meter. Drum and bass is 4/4 (even) each phrase can be divided equally into sub groups. He's perfectly in time but his internal meter is varying odd meters against the 4/4 of the other players which throws the listener off at times. Makes it far more interesting to listen to again and again. Tony Williams was a master at this in the 1970's. So was ginger, the drummer from Cream who later played with feli kuti. Both considered great Jazz drummers. African rhythms are generally this complex and rotate odd meters, feli kuti's albums are good examples. (also Listen to Miles Davis 'on the corner' album or 'Rated X for some mind bending Tony Williams complex 70's jazz fusion drumming. Producers like Bukem, Adam F, Photek, Goldie, 4 hero were all influenced by Miles Davis fusion records. No doubt Richard was too. SPAVEN is a master at pocket playing and odd meter. The reason why many people cannot feel the pulse in this, (I don't mean you) is because 4/4 is the dominant time signature of modern music and we've all been conditioned to its easy flat even pattern, unless you're from south America where 3/4 salsa is also still a major pop time signature or listen u to a lot of jazz. but back in the 50's 60's 70's 3/4 5/4 7/4 were just as common as 4/4 and jazz drummers could work them easily. Very few pop songs are in odd meter, its not radio friendly or 'catchy' for non muso types. Pink Floyd's money is 7/4 but changes to 4/4. That's an easy one to count off because the bass is the strong 7/4 motif. Listen to Sting, walking on the moon, notice how Stuart copeland switches from offbeat reggae Drum pattern, to onbeat (kick on the one) to shift the pace of the track, not as easy as it seems. Another great jazz taught drummer who can switch meter, tempo or syncopation easily in his head. Adam Neely has done some good videos on explaining complex odd meters recently and his drummer has been experimenting with some odd rhythmic patterns also. Not Drum and bass but worth a listen to expand your listening.
So tell me why this king of music soulful, real music only gets a few views this industry yalll both of my favorites 😍🔥🙌🏾 & also my inspiration hoping on a all album by both of y'all in the works ?? Just vibing together
this may not have the millons of views it should have but still I know a lot of people really enjoy this magic. Super original music. As a drummer he is a great influence.for me . Much love from Argentina!
Snare on 3 helps! I think, the bass lands on the sixteenth after the fourth quarter note (4naN) instead of the 1st quarter note, which throws you off because your brain tries to use the bass to start the count of the measure. Then there's the right hand (high-hat) pattern, which is basically every third 16th, starting on the third sixteenth (second 8th) in the first bar. In other words 1n A n2 N an 3 na N 4n A n. In the chorus the snare lands on the 2nd 8th of the 2nd note i.e. 1nan2n A n... and the right hand pattern is a little different. That gives it the syncopation that makes you feel it as you lift your head while your bobbing.
To explain briefly . It is a binary 4/4 but the key is that most of notes on the hi hat and snare ghost notes are in another feel , a ternary subdivision . It is like a kind of 4 against 6 but since the snare backbeat is always here , we have a feeling of a regular 4/4.
Actually before i read the comment i realized it's on 4/4 when it came to chorus.. And i was like holy sh8 all this time lololol so yeah i think he gives 4/4 reference with surprise
so funny how some people count differently :) I'm a drummer, you seriously can count however the fuck you want to count. Truth is though that the pulse is 4/4.
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Has anyone else watched this like a hundred times?
Totally.... On repeat on Spotify...
Yes me bro. Can't stop Jordan singing and rhythm technique is amazing. And spaven is just blazing on a whole another level on the drums
Only 1000 times...
@@johnmadison267 1001 right now
i cant get enough of it.
5th March 2023. My soul led me here again and I just realized this is probably one of my all time top 5 songs.
I love this so much.
how about taking P4 down this route? :D
hiya misha! P4 is the bomb!!! big love from singapore come back soon!
Any time I hit a rough patch in life, I come back to this song and it always helps. Thank you for this. 🙏
That ghosting effect in the chorus is brilliant. amazing song, awesome video. 10/10
Thank you Richard and Jordan, for showing us what alignment sounds like.
4:00 OMG that displacement!!! I've been hearing this on Spotify as I'm just now getting into it. I had to see if there was a video for this cause I was crazy trying to figure out those ghost notes on this groove. Straight fire!
God keeps on bringing me here🕯️
The more I listen to this piece the less simple it is. The very reason for coming back to it time and time again. Pozdro666
I had forgotten how great this song is!
Richard Spaven is economy of motion incarnate! Great tune and playing
Those ghost notes is what I'm grooving to! Is that normal? I love it!
I didn't realize how deeply this music only appeals to musicians until I started showing it to all of my friends who don't play music and they kept saying they couldn't feel the beat...
WHAT?!
Anyways, musicians unite around being able to spot a simple four! Haha.
Yeah... and to DJs like me who are loved by musicians and hated by mainstream crowds.
I also am *very* cool.
Bryant McNamara I too, am very cool
A lot of people don't 'get' the snare/accent on the 3. I was playing the Purdie Shuffle behind some bluesy stuff and a couple hicks in the crowd decided to be very vocal that they didn't like what I was playing.
Bryant McNamara “only” is a strong word dontcha think?
Holy sht...two of my favorite artists...
Time Signature is: f(x)=a_0+∑_(n=1)^∞(a_n cos〖nπx/L〗+b_n sin〖nπx/L〗 )
hahahahahaaha!
Fourier is always the answer...
It’s 4
HAHAHAH love it.
its actually 4/4 that makes it even cooler
IT's got to be the most fascinatingly beautiful piece of music to ever come from humans... the time signature, the profound lyrics, the almost religious harmonisation, the feeling of unease... hauntingly beautiful and stunningly creative.
both the vocals and the drumming soothing love it!!
Just discovered Jose James today, and then I got steered to Richard Spaven. Mind is so blown today. I love everything about this genre. Whatever this is, fusion?
Jazz with grime vibes?
Best tune I've heard in a very long time! Great job Richard Spaven!
It's so haunting.... because of all the ghost notes.
djrabalais228
..what
LOL
Get out of my house
brilliant time .......things to come
time signature is 4/4 but odd meters and patterns appear over 4
Whoa i was way off, best i could count was 25/16😅
I caught that....took awhile
More people need this in their life
DESTROYING the repeat option...!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So...Zero 7 featuring Jacob Collier, meets Snarky Puppy-esque...???
LOVING it...
I've always been a drum n bass fan but this is nudrumnbass...never thought about putting break beats like this to music with a singer.
Spaven is playing odd meter which is fairly standard in good jazz drumming. It's not breakbeat at all. Breakbeat is derived from funk which leads with the kick drum on the one of every phrase and is 4/4. What Spaven is doing here is far more complex. Varied sub groups odd meter.
In many of his phrases here he leads with the hat and the kick is after the one. (Like many jazz standards) Spaven is a modern jazz drummer first in style and innovation.
If you try to count 4 over 4 , you will begin to notice the pattern is off in places by the end of the riff. that's the odd meter.
Drum and bass is 4/4 (even) each phrase can be divided equally into sub groups.
He's perfectly in time but his internal meter is varying odd meters against the 4/4 of the other players which throws the listener off at times. Makes it far more interesting to listen to again and again.
Tony Williams was a master at this in the 1970's. So was ginger, the drummer from Cream who later played with feli kuti. Both considered great Jazz drummers.
African rhythms are generally this complex and rotate odd meters, feli kuti's albums are good examples.
(also Listen to Miles Davis 'on the corner' album or 'Rated X for some mind bending Tony Williams complex 70's jazz fusion drumming.
Producers like Bukem, Adam F, Photek, Goldie, 4 hero were all influenced by Miles Davis fusion records. No doubt Richard was too.
SPAVEN is a master at pocket playing and odd meter. The reason why many people cannot feel the pulse in this, (I don't mean you) is because 4/4 is the dominant time signature of modern music and we've all been conditioned to its easy flat even pattern, unless you're from south America where 3/4 salsa is also still a major pop time signature or listen u to a lot of jazz.
but back in the 50's 60's 70's 3/4 5/4 7/4 were just as common as 4/4 and jazz drummers could work them easily.
Very few pop songs are in odd meter, its not radio friendly or 'catchy' for non muso types.
Pink Floyd's money is 7/4 but changes to 4/4. That's an easy one to count off because the bass is the strong 7/4 motif.
Listen to Sting, walking on the moon, notice how Stuart copeland switches from offbeat reggae Drum pattern, to onbeat (kick on the one) to shift the pace of the track, not as easy as it seems. Another great jazz taught drummer who can switch meter, tempo or syncopation easily in his head.
Adam Neely has done some good videos on explaining complex odd meters recently and his drummer has been experimenting with some odd rhythmic patterns also. Not Drum and bass but worth a listen to expand your listening.
@@ljt3084 On the corner has al foster and billy hart it think and rated x def has Al laying that fat groove
@@ljt3084 Ridiculously pretentious reply to a simple comment that was making an observation.
Addicted, love the combo, it's a beautiful song!
has a bit of a Zero 7 vibe to it. Love it!!!
So tell me why this king of music soulful, real music only gets a few views this industry yalll both of my favorites 😍🔥🙌🏾 & also my inspiration hoping on a all album by both of y'all in the works ?? Just vibing together
I so wanna learn this groove! omg
this may not have the millons of views it should have but still I know a lot of people really enjoy this magic. Super original music. As a drummer he is a great influence.for me . Much love from Argentina!
Crack mal el loco spaven
Now This hits different
Goosebumps, every time.
loving this sound
Love it! Would love to hear a remix as well.
Geez, incredible ♥️♥️♥️
Mr. Spaven killin it again!
Brilliant!!!
my brother told me to listen to this. Thanks brother!!!
Jordan is one of a kind 💯💯
Between those epic ghost notes and Jordan's dark vocals, this track is straight haunting 👻 🔥
yesssssssssssssssssssss the best combination
top most anticipated releases of the year
Nice, I hope the album has some instrumentals on it as well, though.
започва като ръченица, свършва като хипноза 🌏
can someone please explain the time signature.. my brain is melting...
He's singing on the beat from 1:38 if that helps to decode it for you
Another helpful tip is the snare for the majority of the song lands on 3 (2 & 4 depending on how you count it).
Snare on 3 helps! I think, the bass lands on the sixteenth after the fourth quarter note (4naN) instead of the 1st quarter note, which throws you off because your brain tries to use the bass to start the count of the measure. Then there's the right hand (high-hat) pattern, which is basically every third 16th, starting on the third sixteenth (second 8th) in the first bar. In other words 1n A n2 N an 3 na N 4n A n. In the chorus the snare lands on the 2nd 8th of the 2nd note i.e. 1nan2n A n... and the right hand pattern is a little different. That gives it the syncopation that makes you feel it as you lift your head while your bobbing.
To explain briefly . It is a binary 4/4 but the key is that most of notes on the hi hat and snare ghost notes are in another feel , a ternary subdivision . It is like a kind of 4 against 6 but since the snare backbeat is always here , we have a feeling of a regular 4/4.
This song is amazing.
give the drummer some!!!
Beautiful
love it!
Incredible. Took me a tiny bit to get cadence but this is elevation of rhythm. Instant fan!
imma crave the spave again.
very cool song
Absolutely stunning!!
ritmo divino
Sublime.
beautiful!!!!
Shit, that was unbelievably tight. Fucking awesome song.
Awesome! Anyone else thinking hihats are little too loud in the mix?
Came back for the umpteenth time!
amazing!
4:32 endless churros
anyone got the lyrics?
I'm SPEECHLESS...♥
amazing groove)
Yes indeed!!
dope!!!!
❤
so sick!
This is so good its scary.
This!!
Gone with the groooooove!!!! Catch me if ya can....
TIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn...this is bad ass super cool and quite tight 😁👌🇩🇰
Anyone know where I can find the lyrics?? Dope song
Richard Spaven is like asmr to me
could any body put the lyrics?!!
Keep it up dude lol this is pretty damn good.
Bliss.
Fodaaaaaaa
I'm drown in it, hundred percent
The voice is SEAL
brain just exploded
What the time signature in this song?
4/4
4/4 with a lot of creativity/subdivisions. snare pretty much stays on beat 3 the whole time, maybe you can try counting it with that in mind
Thanks RUclips for the loop button 😊❤🎉
Sicker then sick ;).
Ruling !!
Is there an isolated drums and vocals version out there.....?
In Spaven's website there is drumless track, but the other way around..... idk
holy hell..pure honey
fuck yes
∞
That introduction is so fucking Gentle Giant reference
totally about eating mushrooms
mushrooms are good with spaghetti.
Barbeque fish stuffed mushroom
I guess this is a mixture of dream pop and prog pop.
What say?
Drummer sounds like Eric Hardland
perfectly sparse, tap dancing intricately around simple meters. thumbs way up
It's clever, sure, but why not start simple, give the listener point of reference, and then go from there? It would have been way more satisfying.
Actually before i read the comment i realized it's on 4/4 when it came to chorus.. And i was like holy sh8 all this time lololol so yeah i think he gives 4/4 reference with surprise
Bahahaha no one cares how clever it is not . Judging by the comments people just enjoy the tune.
Well guys don't count the syncopations. on the start counting 123, 456 and you will see 6/8 syncopated. period!!!
so funny how some people count differently :)
I'm a drummer, you seriously can count however the fuck you want to count. Truth is though that the pulse is 4/4.
Definitely 4/4. If it helps you, make the snare the third beat.
The song is in 4/4!!!! Where do you get syncopated 6/8 from??
It's a 3 bar loop (for the verse at least) in 4/4 time. And the grid is clearly sixteenth notes. PERIOD!!!! hahaha
@@AJBooker there are no triplets anywhere in this song haha, all straight 16th notes
bruh
Naaah* Spaven isn't Yussef Dayes, he doesn't drop it, to its full potential * and Rakei, is better on a soulful/emotional tip* i ain't buying this
Fine
I'm drown in it, hundred percent