History Primer 164: US Colt 1907/09 Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2022
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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Additional reading:
Colt .45 Service Pistols: Models of 1911 and 1911A1
Charles W. Clawson
Colt Automatic Pistols
Donald B. Bady
The Colt Model 1905 Automatic Pistol
John Potocki
U.S. Military Automatic Pistols: Vol 1 1894-1920
Edward Scott Meadows
The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols: Vol 1-3
Joachim Gortz & Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess
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Wow! Truly the pinnacle of the .45 ACP pistol. The concept cannot possibly get better than this. It's nice to have the entire development arc for this bad boy finally complete.
A most remarkable development. It will be a great weapon for the next war, after which it will surely be replaced with newer and even better technology!
Yup, definitely no future model would have to be developed.......
Sassy
Lol
The 1910 was almost perfect in my opinion
In the mirror universe, clean-shaven Othias is leading us through the development of the Savage 1911 and occasionally peppering in factoids about Colt's failed entry to the competition.
And in another one, Othias with long hair and a mustache is telling us about the 45 ACP Luger.
@@CloudCobra22 isn't that just ian aka gun Jesus
Parody videos of these alternate universes would be hilarious.
I dread to think what a ginger-haired Othais would present...
@@vaclav_fejt my first thought was a .45 Nagant (a reduced power, recessed bullet cartridge adapted from .45 LC, naturally)
hmm. maybe a more cursed cartridge...
This is a certified Colt classic
DAMN SON, WHERE YOU GAT THAT?
Before M1911
The colt of personality surrounding this gun is unreal.
You could say it's a Colt leader.
As a foreigh audience, I found these comments Coltured.
Huzzah, the men of Colture!
Just two more years to go and will finally make it to the year of 1911
regarding that 1 screw takedown, I had a professor say, "If you want to be a good engineer, design it life you have to build it. If you want to be great, design like you have to FIX it."
As an aircraft mechanic, I was always told that aerospace engineers build things to work, not be worked on.
@@kirkmooneyham My proff was a physicist and electrical engineer who spent some time in automotive.
@3:15 don't try and sneak that past us! I want to know more about that 476 caliber explosive bullet they trialed. Actually a whole special just on the Thompson-LaGuarde test would be amazing.
It would be an interesting one but I suspect not RUclipsable unless they really skimmed the details.
@@tenofprime a Patron special would also be possible.
@@tenofprime People have done videos on explosive bullets and bloody anatomical details before with little to no issues except for sometimes no monetization.
I gotta admit that I really enjoy when there are multiple videos of a single 'families' of firearms. Always starts to feel like a real story as opposed to just getting facts.
I was first made aware of the whole evolutionary process that went into the Colt m1911 after hearing about the 1900 in a book and watching Ian's videos on the 1907, 1909, and 1910. I really appreciate the more in depth detail you go into that makes the story that much more understandable
I learned something today. Didn't know you can decock a 1911 variant one handed, by pulling the hammer all the way back into the safety. Just tried it on my Norwegian 1914, it works.
As someone who works at a gunshop being able to one handedly decock 1911s is incredibly convenient
WE'RE GETTING EVER CLOSER BOYS!!!
Yeah, getting closer to the Kongsberg M/1914 we've all been waiting for
Another 3 months of obscure European big bore revolvers please!
EVENTUALLY
I think its fitting my paternal grandmother was born in 1911, owned a 1911, with which she shot a home intruder in 1976.
My grandmother shot a peeping Tom in the ass in 1961 with a Colt 38 revolver
All of these colt models eventually lead up to...thats right...the Steyr M1912. 😉
Imagine a world where fudds swear to god you don't need a magazine because "Muh 1912"
@@PedroHenrique-dh3bq oh god. Those fudds do exist, though. They swear by the revolver.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 I'm not afraid because I understand how semiautomatic pistols are better than revolvers but come on man you got to know that a revolver is a beautiful thing
@@1TruNub Swords are beautiful things but I wouldn't carry one around or put it in my car :D
@@PedroHenrique-dh3bq Grendel P10 is peak performance
I'm appreciating the Luger a lot more. I definitely would have passed on these early Colts.
Fascinating how all these John Browning Colts leading up to the 1911 look like how kids draw guns
You draw them like that because it's iconic to you, I'm sure kids in say an early German childhood are going to draw stuff that looks more lugery
@@beargillium2369 Or P38…
Message of this episode. 'This is how friendship happen' as Mae, rubs two historic artifacts together.
Thanks for another great episode. Really hope someone in the collector community steps up and let's you guys put your hands on the next gun in this series. It will probably be the best value increase they can ever imagine for their piece exposing it to a much wider community and garnering interest in rare bits of history like these.
I love old men thirsting after Mae, really makes the comments for me tbh
Othias, your information on this was super - having a 1911 i never thought what it took to get there. Your research is more than fantastic. Maes insight into how well they shoot and the ergonomics is always welcome. ..I am always amazed at the vast amount of history you provide. On my recent vacation I stopped at Virginia Military Institute and visited the museum, you would love seeing there collection that was provided by a graduate of the institution. Plus it has various weapons that were used by graduates, like General Patton. A must to see if your ever in the area. Great stuff.
Y'all done a great video on the Colt 1907/09 it's easy to see how the 1911 came from that design I think I'm excited to see what y'all do next time
Same here, I am keeping my own play list of the development to the 1911 so I can binge it later and watch things develop.
AHHHH, it's close! Only 2 years left!
At approx. the 39-40 minute mark... That theory absolutely makes sense and like any other piece of history, you cannot fully comprehend or understand it without 1st immersing one's self into that particular time. Our modern brain and even our modern mores keep us from being able to understand so much of history.
I want to see the Colt New Service with the 476 Caliber explosive projectile, please! ( 3:14 )
Carried a 686 for 21 years. Started with 6 round dump pouches, we later updateded to speed loaders. Can "Single" load a 686 very quickly. We finally switched to .40 sw Glocks in my last year.
Shoot one from time to time with my range buddy. The 686 hands down is probably the only wheel gun I'd carry if given the choice of only a revolver.
I carried a 38 special 2.5 inch colt diamondback mainly for a while. Very well used when I got it. V spring is weak now so I'm primarily carrying a G20 or G29 love 10mm
Love the video love the show thank you for all the hard work that this takes to turn out this kind of product
Now I can show off to all the local fudds! Thanks for showing us how to one hand hammer drop 👌
Your group continues to impress me with your research and production skills. Bravo/Brava
In 1908 $19.50 is equivalent to $627.75 and $1,644 is equivalent to $52,500.21
back with another awesome piece, i say this every episode but i absolutely love this series
Glad the Colt series is back, been waiting on this one for a while!
Well done guys. Another excellent episode. Keep up the good work.
Can you get Ian to distract the fireplace guy long enough to film his Colts?
awesome work. Thank you for all your hard work
Yay, we can finally get back to the revolvers! Thanks for the Colts Sven.
Nice work Otha’s! Bruno’s modeling is outstanding!
It's criminal how few views this has a week later with how popular/long-lived the 1911 is.
Mae is such a good presenter! Her cadence and enunciation are outstanding. She could make a fine living with her voice alone. Consider auditioning for Audible, Mae.
46:25 Ask Ian to ask fireplace guy. He seems to have one of everything 😂
3d experience is bang on (pun intended). Both yourselves and Ian are another level
Once again Mae proves Davy Crockett is not the only one loaded for Bear!!! Sweet shooting!!
Given the quality and accessibility of your documentaries I'm amazed museum's aren't queueing up to let you feature the guns in their collections.
The probable reason would be that the museum's and collection's curators "had to work hard for their history degree", and the fine folks at C&Rsenal did not, and therefore aren't REAL historians, so no access to the collection. At this point, it would be like denying Ian from Forgotten Weapons access to a collection because he didn't go to college for history, but some other degree, even though a walkthrough from Ian could triple foot traffic for a year or two. I think it is just for spite, sometimes, they are mad because Othias and Mae are doing what they, the curators wanted to be doing, instead of babysitting a bunch of relics.
@@Operator8282 I suppose that might be true in some cases but I doubt it will be true in all cases. My somewhat limited personal experience is of only receiving positive responses when interacting with various museum staff, especially when I have been able to bring something that can enhance a museum's collection or their knowledge and understanding of artefacts within it.
A lot of curators can become really precious with their artefacts. It has nothing to do with being bitter, and more to do with a fundamental mistrust of people that are outside of their particular community, even people from other museums or collecting groups. It's easy to be convinced that something so old and rare is untouchably delicate; and so you get a situation where, even though the collectors/curators themselves are usually glad to talk about the items in question all day long, asking to handle it oneself, or god forbid to actually use it like it was intended to be used, is almost taboo because there's that constant air of "what if they damage it, we spent years/decades and a lot of money tracking that thing down and it's such a rare piece that it'd be impossible to repair or replace". Which I understand to an extent, though it can get ridiculous at times, such as in this case of not letting the C&R crew access it.
Nobody ever asks for a review of the 1911. You guys are KILLING ME! I've been waiting since 2017 for that review!
Great video you guys!!
Thank you. Great video.
Thank you so much for this Next level content !
Upside, Ian has gotten to see both the 1909 and 1910 models. I think the following videos can be filmed.... maybe.
I’m excited to see this one!
I like that 1909 hammer/safing setup. Pretty slick.
I trust Mae's opinion because she actually fires all those firearms, and because she has fired so many different firearms. She thus has real-world experience and a good frame of reference, as much as anyone can with those old firearms.
hahaha, Mae's expression when talking about going back to revolvers.
Thank you for creating this great series.
Thank you!
Hooray! a video on the 1907!
Mae is very knowledgeable. Love it.
Miss Mae makes shooting even the big stuff look so easy. Plus she is pretty as well.
Still good on the rewatch!
Let's see some more .32s. I miss those. ;)
Perfect bed time 🥱 🛌 story from Othias!!!
Thank you for last few lines. I had wondered how May handles the reprobate members of the male sex.
Always informative and interesting.
John Browning was a genius but seeing the progression makes one appreciate how hard he worked to get it right. Genius takes a lot of thinking and hard work.
Nice presentation from the guys.....the model has promise.
at this stage I am sure that this point they will find a 1910 and 3/4s and a 1910 and 7/8th just to stop us seeing the 1911
This is like becoming the Half Life if Osias was Gabe Newell.
Savage .Should Come Out ,With All Those Great Guns They Made
Great show. Looking forward to the 1911 episode. Also, are you ever going to do one on the Colt 1851 Navy revolver?
The discussion of not trusting the internal workings of the safety mechanisms made me think of the Mauser HSc. With the safety on safe, you cannot cock the hammer. On fire, you cock the hammer. Then set the safety to safe. Then pull the trigger. The hammer falls. That is how it de-cocks. Scary.
Well, golly gee! This sure must be the final iteration of Browning's semi-auto pistol design, it's just so perfect. I can't imagine there could be several more iterations ahead, ultimately leading to the most well-known handgun in human history!
Another great entry ... but where is the expand version of the discussion of shooting in your underwear? It sounds funny, and all I can add is that I am not a man made of stone, nor am I blind and I think we would all enjoy a video of O in his briefs, and glorious beard showing us this difference of power from the 38 to 45. Maybe I'm alone or too facetious for my own good. Keep the up the strong work
I always thought the competition between the savage and colt was a lot tighter up to this point but the colt was really the only horse in the race by 1910.
just when I thought I was going to get to bed on time
Magazine fed handguns were rare at the time, however magazine fed rifles and shotguns were at the time very popular among civilians. And have the same safety issues. But I still agree revolvers are safer.
I have not got psst the introduction and know that this will be great
Good Video
I recently purchased a colt 1911 from World War I that was nickel plated in Europe. The patent dates on the gun are 1909 to 1913 And it’s an excellent condition. I understand that having a nickel plated decreases the value but that’s all right with me. It’s a beautiful gun.
Yea no more obsolete revolvers. Love the Repro percussions series though. Love the channel
With all these previous iterations, no wonder the M1911 was bug free enough to last a century and change!
"How much are you sweatin?"
"a lil bit, am swehtn a lil bit, a lil bit"
I'm dying 🤣 for not being a comedy channel that got me good
You guys are so goofy and fun together I sometimes suspect that you've weeded up before you go on camera.
cool love it😄😄
Cool!
Oh hell yeah !
One thing to consider about the grip used by Cav Troopers are the big leather gloves they would still have been wearing.
I NEED A "WAR WERE DECLARED!"!!! IM IN WITHDRAWL!!!
You must remember that the US Army before WWI (and then again between the World Wars) was an all-volunteer force whose enlisted men were mainly drawn from the lower end of the population. The army didn't pay their enlisted men very much in those days, so you had to be pretty desperate and pretty much of a failure in civilian life to sign up. Given this, the skepticism of officers about the skill and intelligence of the average pre-WWI solider was well justified.
Finnaly!
Let’s go!!!!!!!!!
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
1:22 what’s the winchester 1911 got to do with colt pistols? Everyone knows there isn’t any 1911 model colt pistol
Parallell rulers are used for navigation at sea, but perhaps JMB had one on the drawing table?
What a nice thing to wake up to.
It is great series .... one of my very first autos... Dad's 1911A1
Man, just imagine how different the pistol world would be if we had adopted the Savage instead of the venerable Colt?
We'd still be using revolvers.
I still think the Luger is better than both.
Omg getting closer
Very cool to see how, "hey, can't you mash together all the good features from all these disparate designs into the perfect wonder-gizmo?" actually worked out perfectly and produced something that was a classic for (perhaps?) good reasons. Especially when we've seen that go wrong before on this very show. (Maybe the trick is just the keeping that one or two steps further back from the actual engineers?)
...wait, did you just say, "automatic fire of two OR MORE shots"? 😳
If you watch this as a drinking game, where you take a shot every time they mention their desire to get ahold of a 1909/10, then you should start with a gallon of booze. 😂
Very coo! Oh, & sometimes that one screw from hell is the most memorable screw 🤔 🤦
Oh God please let May and Othais find a 1909/1910 that they can film so we might be graced with the historical knowledge that blesses you , for these humble servants truly are doing your work .
Amen .
27:53 Recoil and muzzle flip still seem excessive compared to the adopted version, the M1911. I wonder how JMB addressed that shortcoming. I'm eagerly awaiting the next installment of this series.
The Army's continued dislike of anything that would allow troops any sort of rapid fire could still be seen in the Springfield 03 still having a magazine cut off lever.
A gun that's 100 years old and still works.
This was definitely not made in China.
This is the quality that America was known for back in the day.
do you really think a chinese sks isn't going to be functional in 100 years left in a closet?
We are getting closer and closer...
We are one step closer to the much fabled and anticipated 1911 episode...I hope its not the zenith for the channel.