Hey all - this has been QUITE the month for me, hence the lower output. Expect that to change. I'll be smashing out more stuff this next month and appreciate all of your continued support and patience as always - - If you enjoyed this please HIT the LIKE - - lots on my to do list for the next few months 👍
You can do a vidoe once a year and we still be here man. Take your time, your content is great. Keep your health in high regards. No matter what you do we will be here. So dont worry. Love ya content.
Luetin mate, it’s like 3am in the uk. I’m on a night shift, what’s your excuse man. Go get some sleep mate, rest is important. Thanks for another video though, it’ll make my shift go quicker. Don’t worry about content timeframes, the quality is amazing, people don’t mind waiting for that.
I really like how it just keeps escalating. Tyranids invade, mechanicus send forces, but now the orks are here, so the templars show up, but now the necrons are here because they feel like it, aaaand chaos is here now too.
“Most of the time, though, they [Orks] are basically on a big galactic fighty pub crawl.” This is probably the best one-sentence summary of Orks I’ve ever heard.
@@mongoliandude I personally think the necrons showed up because the realized Kryptman folly had reached critical mass. The Silent King is well aware of the threat they pose.
I really think the Necrons show the most interesting potential here: the Silent King hates the tyranids, and while the purely biological bugs defeated the orks while relying on consuming and recycling them, they can’t do the same with the Necrons as they’re purely mechanical. Remember as well the orks were created to fight the Necrons, while the tyranids have seldom encountered the necrons at all. So the Necrons waited for the orks to be defeated as they posed a comparatively greater threat to them before swooping in to massacre the ill-prepared bugs. Necrons have no psychic ability and ships don’t need the warp so their shadow does nothing, and their obscenely powerful war in heaven era tech will certainly be devastating to the tyranids. The orks had both technology of their own and the ability to scrap Necron tech and use it, tyranids don’t. By stopping the orks it may have led to their own demise at the hands of the necron. Guess we’ll have to wait and see
The necrons must also time it right. If they lose to the tyranids or dont wipe out a hive cluster, they risk adaptation to the tech they bring, which while bad for them, would be disastrous for the universe at large.
Necrons also use gauss weapons which disintegrate biological material. I don't know if the lore mentions if tyranids can recycle whatever is left after that.
Big props to the Ork overfiend that managed to defeat the flipping SWARMLORD in single combat, that thing is immortal and possibly millions of years old, it may well have fought millions of such duels and is probably one of the deadliest beings in the universe at that sort of thing.
@@高若嵩-t6r it is I Cato Sicarius, I heard my name and burst forth, why does you summon I Cato Sicarius... Oh he said cat, not Cato.. Dammit it's happened again" [Knight champion of Macragge has left the chat]
@Luetin09 You make me care more about a game I have never played and books I have never read more then the people that do. As a historian, you are the shit at story telling. Thank You.
2nd this, rather enjoy me some sophisticated brash british guy & the pragmatic dry humor & his narration tone that slaps like cold steel and enraptures one so thoroughly you hardly even notice the mutton chops growing over you’re ears. Edit: Reasons.
I one day saw a couple people online joking about some sort of "blood for the blood god". I see one Luetin video, and now love to occasionally partake in his storytime historical narrative style of voiceover work paired with excellent visuals. He is indeed excellent, and I see many comments like this regarding us folks that just got in via the crazy lore.
The Octarius war is probably my most favorite thing in 40k, more so than just being a fan of both Orks and Tyranids. Its a horrifying crucible of evolution for both species that thrive in war, a swarm from outside the galaxy physically changing and evolving their thinking against an engineered race of dangerously cunning brutes that not only grow bigger as the war grows on but create more and more unhinged warmachines to boot. Its the full WAR part of warhammer distilled into a pure essence even more so than Khorne and his followers in my opinion for the two don't even fight for an ideology, just to either devour the other or just because its fun for the other.
Seriously, I just want an animated series covering these types of battles and stories. I can't even imagine the scale of these battles brought to the big screen. Like holy shit
Daemons must be so frustrating to the Tyranid, you slay an entire hoard of them, and when all is said and done, they just evaporate back into the warp and there's zero biomass gained from it. No wonder they evolved a way to stitch up warp rifts.
When you speak about how the Overfiend kills the Swarmlord,it sounds like how we fight in games,we face a strong opponent and after a hard fought battle and almost winning they kill us only for us to respawn more pissed off than ever with an all encompassing burning thirst for revenge.
the setting works so well for noir its crazy, plus we don't normally get books where things like las rifles, space ships, and space marines are some far off fable.
@@ryleyfell2778 listening to bloodlines at the moment, I've never heard such a humanistic depiction of an average person's life in the imperium. Seriously a great book
Im a sucker for alliances of convenience/necessity. I dont expect any permanent alliances (say Eldari+Imerium) but I do think there are stories to be told how different doctrines are forced to fight together and all the problems that come with it.
some people like alliances in 40k. Meanwhile, I still wonder how the Space Marines and Adeptus Mechanicus manage to fight together without killing each other. Such is the nature of 40k
Colossal unending war and carnage of the most brutal kind. I wonder what Khorne is up to. I'd love to hear the other species/factions take on Octarius. Like Necrons being like 'dam kids are fighting on the front lawn again'. Chaos being pissed that their invitation got lost in the warp. Or Tau being like 'Oct-what?'
If you got a spare audible credit, and want a great warhammer short, might I recommend either: Warmaster or Dark Compliance, both by John French. Amazing writing as well as voice work for Lupercal
The one good bit of news is that the Imperium may not have to contain Octarious. If I recall correctly the Wagh of Gazkull is infact headed to Octarious next because of how good the Krumpin there is. And if any force could hold off the Tyranids there it would be the Orc Wagh closest to reascending back into Kork Hood.
@@mr.revrac5602 I remember reading somewhere that Ghazkull intentionally left the system to keep it boiling so more orks will be draw into the fight, creating a bigger whaagh and more opportunity for new warbosses to rise. He only intervened when they are close to losing to keep the morale.
I really do think that a crusade to purge the Octarius sector would either cripple humanity (military wise) beyond recovery or usher in their complete destruction. Honestly I see this being on scale wit the 13th black crusade or the forming of the great rift
Like you say; it would be great if Ontarius continued serves as more interesting stories of Imperium and Eldar working together. The fall of the Ork overlord could rise to many different ork warbosses who could become akin to chapter masters we have so many stories about for the space marines. Were necrons waiting for the tyranids to dig out the Orks on the planet Ontarius so that they could then fight what they see as an easier foe before they reveal buried tombs beneath the surface? It serves as an opportunity for new lord models and more army models in general for krieg, orks, Nids, necrons and even inquisition. Heck... with the black Templars being there in near full force and the empirial strategy relying on forming a giant bulwark against the multiple flavored waved of xenos it sure would be an interesting time for a certain yellow primarch to re-emerge with some true ideas on how to fortify the emperor loving balls out of the Imperiums border. One can dream.
After finishing the latest Necron books (the twice dead king), I'm dying for Luetin to cover Necrons again. there are soooooo many interesting and new things regarding their technology, society, culture, history, war in heaven...etc Honestly, it made me a bigger fan of Necrons than any other faction currently.
Necrons using gravity to sling shot asteroids light years away to be able to remove stars from the sky. We learn that wih was sustained for 5 million year engagement. Ghostwind the place where c’tan come from the opposite to the warp. Loads of great new info on the necrons.
There's a necron dynasty that controls the celestial orrery. It's a device that displays a holographic image of every star in the cosmos. If anything or one were to snuff out one of the stars on the map, then the actual star in real space will go supernova swallowing every planet and moon orbiting it. Luckily the Royal Court of Thanatos see themselves as the Gardners of Creation and only use the device to prune the galaxy to prevent it from being overgrown. The Oruscar Dynasty have used it also to prevent the device from falling into the hands of other Necron and alien races.
I love these long lore videos and i watch them over and over. The only thing i would change is the music volume in between segments because there is a large volume difference between the intence music and your voice. Other than that these videos are perfect and i will keep coming back for more regardless. Keep up the good work 😊
@@ragmt09 but the music really works with the video, and for the most part its only the very beginning and end. Most of the music mid video is perfect still
Awesome, perfect timing, I tend to fall asleep listening to your videos. Not sure why but it's awesome. This is one of the craziest wars in 40k. I wonder if GW are going to further it towards it's finish or just let it stand for another 40 years lol.
I've become part android... falling asleep with my ear peice nestled at my pillow... the sweet, macabre of endless war echoing in my mind like a spell spoken by a true, master.
Lately my warhammer content has been tabletop focused and hearing some rants. That’s important of course, but I didn’t realize until now how exhausting it got. So thanks for the lore, it’s a needed breath of fresh air.
Although the biggest factions involved are clearly the tyranids, imperium and orks, it seems that the inclusion of chaos, necrons and potentially eldari may mean they have a bigger part to play going forward in octarius. If you are right about tiamat then the story has written in a way to maintain the tyranid threat from there, or even step up the threat, while they could establish the power and threat of the necrons to a greater degree. If tyranids are developed through tiamat, necrons are established with the silent king having a victory in octarius and chaos obviously overcame the meme of the first 12 black crusades with the results of the 13th then all the "bad guys" have spent the last years significantly turning up the danger levels. Unless there is a significant necron development that i have missed.
Great video! I am curious how a Drukhari Haemonculus got captured. Those are very valueable members of the Dark Eldar. I would imagine Asdrubael Vect is pretty pissed about that. All in all I think it could be clever way by the writers to get the Dark Eldar involved in all this.
It's a ploy by the dark eldar. The mere idea of torturing information out of a haemonculus is absurd, and whatever he tells them will serve his own purposes. Those might align with the Imperium's current needs - Tyranids are probably boring and annoying to his kind and setting the idiot mon-keigh to fighting them a bit more effectively would be amusing. But in the end he's doing it for himself, and will just die and respawn back home when he's done fooling around. Hell, given how stupid the mon-keigh are, letting them "torture" info out of him might be the only way a dark eldar could get them to believe even part of what he's saying.
Seems to me, the imperium ought to eliminate the Tyranids with brutal cunning at the first opportunity. It's a story though, so I imagine that won't happen. Weird that Warhammer is offering an opposition story to Enders Game. The 'Bugs' of Enders Game didn't realize they were killing sentient beings and tried to change their ways because they didn't know initially. The Tyranids know and actively use sentience to manipulate from within, in order to weaken their target. Honestly, an Ork universe sounds preferable to a Tyranid one.
There’s no comparison because a Tyranid universe is no universe at all. If they win all that’s left is oblivion. An Ork galaxy however would be the ultimate galactic kraterocracy. An entire galaxy ruled by the concept that might and might alone makes right. A brutal, uncompromising ideology. However it’s a largely equal opportunity one that encourages excellence and rewards the strongest.
It still boggles my mind how any chapter believes the Emperor is a god. I know the Black Templars don’t follow the Imperial Truth and I can understand if the Grey Knights or some recent 20th whatever founding chapter believe he’s a god, but a second founding chapter? Did the Black Templars believe the Emperor was a god since Sigismund? Do they understand that other chapters don’t believe The Emperor is a god, and if they do, how do they react? Do they think less of them or just don’t think much of it? What about Grimaldis? Is he just an exception or and is the larger Black Templars aware of his non-belief the Emperor is a god? So many questions.
Generally, Marines don't see the Emperor as a God - they see him as the pinnacle of Mankind, the creator of their gene seed. But, as with all Chapters, each is different - the Space Wolves see the Emperor as the All-Father, the sire of all. I think the Grey Knights see him as definitely NOT a god (their Gene-seed is taken from the Emperor, not a Primarch), but he is somehow tied to their ability to fight Chaos. The Black Templars are one of the chapters that do revere him as God-like, but I'm pretty sure they're in the minority of chapters in that respect (Also remember, the Black Templars were formed from the most fanatical of the Imperial Fist Legion, and 10,000 years of crusading has only made it more pronounced).
I think for 10000 years fighting against Chaos, Orks and Tyranids, many of original member from the legion is death. And new generation replace, drive from kids of normal citizens that worship Emperor as a god. The remaining simply cannot stop the tide anymore.
Dude the Emperor was 10 feet tall, radiated golden light, and was probably the single strongest being in the materium in a universe where gods exist for sure it's not that hard to rationalize
@@andrew3606 The point being is that those chapters existed (well at least their parent chapters) when the Emperor was still walking around. And while he was walking, he was telling everyone with ears that he was not a god, and such worship was dangerous.
I saw these warzones are "excuses" for tabletop conflict settings. An attempt to recapture the way it used to work, unshifting battle grounds feature most if not all the sides. THis allows them to push the main story with the usual suspects while not making the universe feel small. It also allows them to answer "what has X group been doing" (in octarius case, the black templar). I expect to see more warzones, each involving many factions, with one in the lead, with a cameo from a group or minorish character or chapter like Crimson fists.
awesome stuff mate. I freaking love the orks, besides having a jolly good time, are not scared to try and rear and tame captured tyranid bioforms. LOL, never change Orks..
Man! I don't care to play the game, but gosh DAYUM is the lore amazing! And Luetin!!!! Yours has become my favorite voice to hear while sharing this lore. New fav channel all day long!!!!
I'm really loving how insane this conflict has gotten and I really hope it escalates even further. I'm almost certain this would never happen, but Imagine if someone shows up with another Blackstone Fortress and uses it to annihilate Tiamat. That'd be sick.
I've been slowly getting into your videos over the last 6 months or so and I really love them. Oddly enough, I don't think I have ever played a warhammer game, 40k or otherwise. This lore is so fun to experience, and you really add to that. Thanks you for all your videos.
While I understand 40K's primary purpose as a tabletop game means that it's in GW's interest to keep as many things as perpetual as possible, it really is so enjoyable to actually real STORIES out of it when we can. I still remember being annoyed with how long it took to conclude the active story arc of Warhammer Fantasu back in the day. And it'd be really neat to get more actual lore development in the current state of the 40K universe.
I know this is more a comment on your audible ad, but your statement about how lore reignites your passion really clicked with me. Often times, the 40k books feel almost operatic in nature, exaggerated examinations of the human condition. Within that, I'll often connect with certain characters or situations in stories, which can be helpful in hard times. Good vid, like the Octarius update! I think this is like my 3rd or 4th watch lol.
You should be proud man. Deep down inside so many people in the comments just love your video's and lore. Thanks so much man. It means alot just to relax and listen.
This is all i wanted, massive mashup between orks and tyranids, hummies and korn are bonus ofcourse .D i Wonder if they pack a battlebarge full of nukes towards the tyranid beacon ...
I love your videos! You are one of few channels I actively await your next video, and watch them multiple times as they help me fall asleep😊 Tyrannids are my favourite faction in 40K and the Octarius war is so interesting! You covered it well, and have inspired to buy my first miniatures!😍 I can't wait to wreak havoc with my tormagants, gene stealers and trygon😆
Unlike your other supportive long term fans, I discovered you about a month ago and have already gone through a solid 80% of your lore content, so I appreciate the new vids
All of your videos are amazing, and they just keep getting better and better! Your voice is transporting me right into the grim and dark, dark future. But then again, every time you narrate an Urk, it is impossible to contain the bursting laughter. Love that contrast. at 22:40 it gave me chills, not because of the horrific shriek, but because of the production value itself - right there with Jeff Wayne's War of the worlds, only in a galactic scale! Thank you, Lore Master.
It’s a nice change of pace to see other Xenos tear each other apart instead of just humans It reminds me of a tenebrious king of the hill fighting match
An HOUR and quarter so worth the wait will have to watch 3 or 4 times today, too relaxing and exciting at the same time that rocks me to sleep, i have a broken back and medication is not very helpfull😉 thank you sir
Cheers mate, I too have a smoked back and listen to Leutin while staring at the ceiling trying to pretend I'm not in my body. Hope your condition gets better
I can honestly say, this s*** better than netflix. Been bingeing or weeks and finally caved; I just have to add my name the legions of fans expressing how amazing this entire channel is. My favourite 'show' right now in the world. Keep it up man - and I can't wait to see what happens next! This Tyranid problem is really concerning!!!
A look at the initial assault on octarius by the nids would be a great vid, as I remember the initial fleet was entirely destroyed at one point and it was only the use of clever tactics on behalf of the remaining Tyranid ground forces. Could be a shorter video I think
45:10 this is very, very new to me. I was not aware that Tyrranids possessed the will and independent thought for a swarmlord to 'focus in' on details, and become aware of things that its predecessors had missed, and accordingly 'devise' strategies. It's almost like...it has evolved an 'individuality'. I know they can adapt, and here it seems they've literally adapted to 'think' rather than just rely on instinct. Almost like they're developing the ability to plan and counter specifically in response to their failures against the Orks.
Nids could away do this, but they prefer to "bury them in body's" and infestation cults then other tactic's tho this don't stop them form being more tactical minded with those strategy and more. The only reason why their where being more tactfully is that their usually strategy's just don't work with these heavily fortified and hyped up orks in this scenario, thinks like these requires more intelligent and sleight of hand then just brute force. And so after a whole bunch of trail and error the hive tyrant (not Swarm lord, which is the special character for the hive tyrant like Guilliman and blitzkrieg Ghazghkull) finally got the idea for being more cunning after the many deaths of it predecessor.
Just finished the 2 old vids about the rise and fall of the emperor and you sir are an excellent story teller. I got shivers and almost had tears in certain parts. And all this hasn't even happened yet!
It seems like GW consistently disregards their own lore when it comes to plots involving the Tyranids. It has long been established that warp travel is rendered impossible in proximity to a hive fleet due to the shadow in the warp. And yet, somehow the imperium always seems to manage to get troop through to save the day (never mind how a chaos incursion could even manifest). I guess plot armor must prevail, even when it must amputate itself to do so.
Tyranids are heavily nerfed within the universe, they would be waaay stronger, specially if they adapt ork spore reproduction for themself! wich would happen if the hive can really adapt to whatever it finds!
What matters most is "How can we just make a buncha people fight" regardless if it makes sense. Just enjoy the ridiculousness of the entire universe as a whole haha
I have recently been challenged by a conundrum. When I watch your videos, I feel inspired for a new Stellaris run. When I play Stellaris, I just want to continue watching your videos. The result is that I can't focus much on either. Woe this time of relative plenty.
Warhammer needs to have bundles on audible. There is no war in hell anyone is going to spend hundreds of dollars to listen to all the warhammer books. Most of them are really really short.
I literally cannot express how awesome your videos are and how much they help me with laundry, sleep, dishes, driving, fucking everything man. Keep up the good work!
First, I LOVE these videos. Thank you for them!!! From a lore perspective, I’m getting pretty sick of Tyranids. They’re basically the Grey Knights of xenos. Physically unstoppable, immune to psychics, free from infighting, if their leaders die they instantly get new better leaders, their setbacks just lead to more and bigger hive fleets from offscreen, and they can plan and learn and invent as much as they need to for whatever conflict they’re involved in, while given all the privileges of being mindless monsters when they need those. They have no flaw that can be exploited, and therefore no way to lose that’s dramatically resonant. They’re basically a metaphor for inevitable death, which would be fine except that they have all the advantages and characteristics of being alive with none of the downsides (like caring about pain or even being able to die) so they’re bad even as a metaphor. The one dramatic purpose I can see them serving in a way that isn’t just “Tyranid plot armor destroys the galaxy” is this: they finally force humanity to allow research again, or maybe force the Orks to think again. Which could both go horribly wrong, of course, and still lead to cosmic destruction, but I’m pretty sick of humanity fighting these dei ex machina with one hand tied behind its back. Basically my problem is this: if the Tyranids overrun the galaxy, there’d be no reason they did, no decision by any group that mattered. It’d just have been the writers deciding there was no way to stop them.
You forgot about the shadow of the warp which lets them fight Imperial forces without the threat of reinforcements. Also because of that most of their victory's are not recorded. So even for a nids fan its frustrating seeing them lose most on screen battles.
I also think that genestealers should have been separate from Tyranids just for lore reasons. Why can their claws rip through terminator armor but most other Tyranid forms of similar size can't
I don't see them being alive as problematic for the metaphor of the inevitable death. They're literally a Force of Nature, unable to be reasoned with or gotten out of the path of. Much like a Hurricane, but on a galactic scale. Originally they might no have meant to be so terrifying, but they're the end of this universe, as they have already been of others, as how the writing is progressing. This is all due tto GWs choice to make the setting progress, rather than an explored setting. You can't have the Tyranid Galactic Invasion progress without showing how utterly unstoppable such a premise is.
@@shadowrobot7708 I think nids fans should always be thinking that because their army has infinite points and no one else’s does, every loss is really a victory.
@@kangtheknightx Bit of a rant here. It’s not directed at you; your point is very reasonable. Just trying to explain myself. The problem is that having such a perfect, unstoppable, limitless force that is also intelligent runs counter to everything else in 40k. Tyranids can think; they can understand and leverage emotions and social connections, as seen in genestealers and in their frustrated scream mentioned in the video; they can work together and plan; they can invent. But they never infight, they have no pride, and they ignore the Warp (the supposed consequence of being both intelligent and alive in the 40k verse) entirely, at least its negative effects. They’re not death at all, or the inevitability of death. They’re just the most awesome and awesomely boring group alive, able to kill everything else just because they inexplicably overcome all the other thematic problems of being alive via perfect universe-wide instant telepathy and accord, all the intelligence they need, unlimited resources, lack of any consequences for failure and therefore lack of fear, and the power to repurpose any resource to do whatever they need to at speed. A universe in which the Tyranids win is one of eternal cosmic harmony, one in which all of life is in constant communion with itself, infinite in variety and potential, perfectly adapted to every situation and environment, free from conflict but also without the restrictions of uniformity or stagnation. Heck, they’re probably immune to entropy somehow to boot. They are, frankly, the stupid happy ending of the story, implying that all the troubling questions and tensions the history of life in 40k has posed have answers, but all those answers come down to “have the writer fix that for you with magic.” There is one dramatic reason I can see for the Tyranids to exist: to highlight that humanity is refusing to use the one canonical way it might have to effectively fight them, that being actually doing science (or at least allowing themselves to think new ideas) again. New Men of Iron could conceivably clean house and make the Tyranids run back home to mommy (right before said Men wiped out humanity themselves, probably). But then, why wouldn’t the ‘nids just “evolve” even more awesome super-anti-Men of Iron, or overwhelm whatever got invented with infinite biomass from offscreen, like they can do with everything else? To get to the point: the Tyranids are proof that the downsides of all the other factions and species are BS, not actual problems. Tyranids have *desire* and *intent* without *any drawback*. If other species wanted to overcome infighting, Chaos, sadness, fear, the pain of loss, whatever, they totally could. Just do a Warp-free universal mind hug like the ‘nids do, and then magically acquire infinite resources. No problem. Really, by this point, the Tyranids should have by all rights “evolved” to transform inorganic elements into carbon or whatever they consider biomass and not even be worried about going after just living things any more. Their entire home galaxy should be a big fat totally organic Dyson sphere powered by an ultramassive central star perpetually rejuvenated by their super-intelligent yet still somehow mindless evolutionary magic. Like a huge Pac-Man, it should just eat the whole 40k galaxy in one bite, leading to perfect endless joyful boredom. You know, after writing this, I’m weirdly kinda rooting for them. Maybe I’m a genestealer at heart 🙂
It seems to me the possible reason they believe they may be able to get something useful out of the captured dark eldar may have something to do with gaining the knowledge of how to create the glass virus that you mentioned in another video could be very useful against tyranids and their ships. Be interested to know what others think?
Yaaay, octarius, been looking forward to this . Change of plans for tonight now. Not watching Spiderman no way home, chilling and listening to this while painting my custodes 😁😁😁
Don't wanna call myself an OG but I've been around since about 150k. And I've gotta say, you continue to blow me away with your content. Keep up this amazing content and good luck with all your endeavors!!
Honestly I was following the lore pretty at the start of eight. But now with all the weird time jumps I would love to see a timeline of everything that happend from the fall of cadia to where we are now. Not requiring that much detail of the events just what happend when.
As always the content is excellent. I've rewatched your videos from years back and don't care one bit if I have to wait longer for a new video. Your health takes precedent and you should take the time you need regardless how long it is, we will still be here
"Octarius" Eight Factions 1. Imperium 2. Orks 3. Tyranids 4. Chaos 5. Aeldari 6. Drukhari 7. Tau 8. Necrons I think this is going to grow into a Gettysburg of sorts, a seemingly small fight that leads to a massive convergence of forces that makes a decisive turning point.
Been listening to your stuff for a few years now. Love it. Finally hitting the like and subscribe button. Your content is enjoyed by way more than the analytics suggest. Keep up the good work! Any less unthinkable, any more, impossible.
I'm going to watch this after part 1 tomorrow because for some reason I love listening to these videos whilst not being a warhammer fan myself. Gotta get up early, head into town and continue my course for some qualifications in some stuff.
I really doubt that the Octarius war is over. Though the Octarius system has fallen and the Overfiend lies dead I think that we will see something that will slow the nid onslaught long enough for the orks to regroup. I enjoyed the series overall and agree that we needed more books to give a deep dive into this conflict. Keep it up Luetin, you madlad!!
its hard for me to see how and why the imperium can have any say in how this war can end,best case scenario,they fight forever and there is no victor,worse case ,an amalgam of orc and tyranid,so strong ,even imperium in its prime with the emperor and his primarchs ,losing a war of galactic scale,but my bet ,the silent king will enter the story
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Hey all - this has been QUITE the month for me, hence the lower output. Expect that to change. I'll be smashing out more stuff this next month and appreciate all of your continued support and patience as always - - If you enjoyed this please HIT the LIKE - - lots on my to do list for the next few months 👍
You're doing great man. Thank you.
Take however long you need man. Your content is always worth the wait.
You can do a vidoe once a year and we still be here man. Take your time, your content is great. Keep your health in high regards. No matter what you do we will be here. So dont worry. Love ya content.
Luetin mate, it’s like 3am in the uk. I’m on a night shift, what’s your excuse man. Go get some sleep mate, rest is important. Thanks for another video though, it’ll make my shift go quicker. Don’t worry about content timeframes, the quality is amazing, people don’t mind waiting for that.
You are the king of lore videos, Luetin! Don't worry a second about it, everyone respects the time needed for your craftsmanship.
I really like how it just keeps escalating. Tyranids invade, mechanicus send forces, but now the orks are here, so the templars show up, but now the necrons are here because they feel like it, aaaand chaos is here now too.
*The Necrons are here, because nobody heeded the "Keep off the Tomb World" signs.
I know right?! It's a true melee, which is really saying something in the world of 40k!!!
Finally true 41k
@@henryviiifake8244 Really hoping they're sautekh necrons because imotekh and helbretch has a history
Then Tau 5th expansion got in aswell and they won, cause fuck the Tau..
“Most of the time, though, they [Orks] are basically on a big galactic fighty pub crawl.”
This is probably the best one-sentence summary of Orks I’ve ever heard.
Meanwhile: Ork CITY LITERALLY WALKS AWAY WITH ALL DA LOOT!
@@JeanLucCaptain So basically the ork steals the other factions beer during the pub brawl
@@cyrolocker1229 smash ta ummy take their Beer.
Like a soccer hooligan riot, that never ends and extends galaxy wide.
Like English Hooligan, But instead it's eternal with literal super weapon and overpowered spore
Amazing how the Octarius War canonically work towards showing the scale, and validate the multi factions conflicts within the board game.
Galactic Smash: Ultimate
Ngl, personally started to find it a little corny when Luetin mentioned that the Necrons had turned up on the scene, you know, just because..
@@mongoliandude we ho says " corny " anymore lol
@@mongoliandude I personally think the necrons showed up because the realized Kryptman folly had reached critical mass. The Silent King is well aware of the threat they pose.
@@scottdodge6979 Best reason I've read here so far!
I really think the Necrons show the most interesting potential here: the Silent King hates the tyranids, and while the purely biological bugs defeated the orks while relying on consuming and recycling them, they can’t do the same with the Necrons as they’re purely mechanical. Remember as well the orks were created to fight the Necrons, while the tyranids have seldom encountered the necrons at all. So the Necrons waited for the orks to be defeated as they posed a comparatively greater threat to them before swooping in to massacre the ill-prepared bugs. Necrons have no psychic ability and ships don’t need the warp so their shadow does nothing, and their obscenely powerful war in heaven era tech will certainly be devastating to the tyranids. The orks had both technology of their own and the ability to scrap Necron tech and use it, tyranids don’t. By stopping the orks it may have led to their own demise at the hands of the necron. Guess we’ll have to wait and see
I love this insight.
The necrons must also time it right. If they lose to the tyranids or dont wipe out a hive cluster, they risk adaptation to the tech they bring, which while bad for them, would be disastrous for the universe at large.
For years I've been telling people, that the Necrons are actually the best card to use against the Nids and Chaos. And I don't even play Necrons.
Necrons also use gauss weapons which disintegrate biological material. I don't know if the lore mentions if tyranids can recycle whatever is left after that.
They even have the tesseract labyrinths to capture the Swarmlord and Norn Queens and the Trancedent Ctan to unleash on the swarms.
Big props to the Ork overfiend that managed to defeat the flipping SWARMLORD in single combat, that thing is immortal and possibly millions of years old, it may well have fought millions of such duels and is probably one of the deadliest beings in the universe at that sort of thing.
wait im confused, the swarmlord killed the overfiend and devoured his brain
Sadly the Swarmlord gets beaten by every named Space Marine and their cat these days
@@高若嵩-t6r Dante and Marneus Calgar
@@Lost7one they had two fights, swarmlord lost one and won the other
@@高若嵩-t6r it is I Cato Sicarius, I heard my name and burst forth, why does you summon I
Cato Sicarius... Oh he said cat, not Cato.. Dammit it's happened again"
[Knight champion of Macragge has left the chat]
Octarius: Exists
Literally every Xeno in the universe: It's free real estate
@Luetin09 You make me care more about a game I have never played and books I have never read more then the people that do. As a historian, you are the shit at story telling. Thank You.
2nd this, rather enjoy me some sophisticated brash british guy & the pragmatic dry humor & his narration tone that slaps like cold steel and enraptures one so thoroughly you hardly even notice the mutton chops growing over you’re ears.
Edit: Reasons.
@@cjclark2002 did you edit that to put the typo in or fix a different one?
Same here never played don't even know anyone who plays lol
I one day saw a couple people online joking about some sort of "blood for the blood god". I see one Luetin video, and now love to occasionally partake in his storytime historical narrative style of voiceover work paired with excellent visuals. He is indeed excellent, and I see many comments like this regarding us folks that just got in via the crazy lore.
He's not a historian
The part where Luetin talks about Mechanicus guys getting swallowed whole by nids to attempt to cut their way out is the most 40k shit I ever heard
“For the orcs, the invasion of the trynids has been seen as a jolly good time”
This line had my laughing out loud and I woke up my wife.
Did she understand that it was Luetin's fault? 😄
I was at work and now everyone thinks there boss is crazy for randomly laughing
@@ryanotte6737 the fact he never responded means nope. She killed him :(
Tell your wife of the glories of the orks.
I saw your comment on the other vide0
New luetin video? Hol up. Lemme just drop all of my plans for the night
When a 3 minute news bulletin is too long but a new 1 hour video from Luetin is an instant click.
Amen!
I have to try to remember to eat....
The Octarius war is probably my most favorite thing in 40k, more so than just being a fan of both Orks and Tyranids. Its a horrifying crucible of evolution for both species that thrive in war, a swarm from outside the galaxy physically changing and evolving their thinking against an engineered race of dangerously cunning brutes that not only grow bigger as the war grows on but create more and more unhinged warmachines to boot. Its the full WAR part of warhammer distilled into a pure essence even more so than Khorne and his followers in my opinion for the two don't even fight for an ideology, just to either devour the other or just because its fun for the other.
It's evolution for both! I'm not surprised if we see some Kroks/Beasts at the end of this conflict...
Me thinks they read Cold Shoulder and decided it should be cannon. Just missing, what, the tau? To complete the ensemble.
111z
Seriously, I just want an animated series covering these types of battles and stories. I can't even imagine the scale of these battles brought to the big screen. Like holy shit
LORE MASTER LUETIN HATH RETURNED WITH THE MOST MASTERFUL OF CONTENT!!!! Glad to see you back sir. Your coverage of the lore is exceptional
Calm yourself and enjoy in reverent silence, ya savage! 😅
Praise be to Lord Loremaster Leutin
GLORY TO HIS HOUSE!
Indeed
*Bell chime*
*Gregorian chant*
Yay he hath given content
Praise be to the loremaster.
Daemons must be so frustrating to the Tyranid, you slay an entire hoard of them, and when all is said and done, they just evaporate back into the warp and there's zero biomass gained from it. No wonder they evolved a way to stitch up warp rifts.
And that's why Hivefleet Kronos exists. The Hivemind got really annoyed with Chaos.
When you speak about how the Overfiend kills the Swarmlord,it sounds like how we fight in games,we face a strong opponent and after a hard fought battle and almost winning they kill us only for us to respawn more pissed off than ever with an all encompassing burning thirst for revenge.
Ah thank the emperor, I had some painting to do and usually wait until I have some quality lore to listen to.
Same. Just got a whole new 2500 points of Death Guard. Now I can lose myself in the lore and go wild painting all these Death Shroud and Blight Lords.
Dude! That’s a great idea! How did i not think of this?
I'll be sleeping like a rock tonight. Thank you Luetin
This right here.
sleep aid gaaang
G'night boys. G'night Luetin.
I’d listen to Luetin read a cookbook
Agreed on the Crime series. Love them so far - and I'd love to hear your take on Varangatua!
the setting works so well for noir its crazy, plus we don't normally get books where things like las rifles, space ships, and space marines are some far off fable.
I personally like the bloodlines book by Chris Wright the setting in this book made me like crime novels
@@ryleyfell2778 listening to bloodlines at the moment, I've never heard such a humanistic depiction of an average person's life in the imperium. Seriously a great book
@@dfgndfghdfghdfgh I definitely agree it's almost like a normal day in everyday life hahah
Im a sucker for alliances of convenience/necessity. I dont expect any permanent alliances (say Eldari+Imerium) but I do think there are stories to be told how different doctrines are forced to fight together and all the problems that come with it.
some people like alliances in 40k. Meanwhile, I still wonder how the Space Marines and Adeptus Mechanicus manage to fight together without killing each other.
Such is the nature of 40k
@kaczok _Mechnicum 99% of the time:_ 🤖
_Mechanicum when they find an STC for a teaspoon:_ 👹👹👹
Imperium chaos alliance: the second the last cell is destroyed I am killing you, but you are still human.
@@henryviiifake8244To be fair, One fragment ended up with knifes that became space marine standard knifes so that teaspoon might actually be useful
Colossal unending war and carnage of the most brutal kind. I wonder what Khorne is up to. I'd love to hear the other species/factions take on Octarius. Like Necrons being like 'dam kids are fighting on the front lawn again'. Chaos being pissed that their invitation got lost in the warp. Or Tau being like 'Oct-what?'
The Necrons are probably pissed they rather hate Kids and The Hungry Oversized bugs on there lawn
If you got a spare audible credit, and want a great warhammer short, might I recommend either:
Warmaster or Dark Compliance, both by John French. Amazing writing as well as voice work for Lupercal
The one good bit of news is that the Imperium may not have to contain Octarious. If I recall correctly the Wagh of Gazkull is infact headed to Octarious next because of how good the Krumpin there is. And if any force could hold off the Tyranids there it would be the Orc Wagh closest to reascending back into Kork Hood.
He already went there, killed a lot of tyranids and then Left
@@mr.revrac5602 I remember reading somewhere that Ghazkull intentionally left the system to keep it boiling so more orks will be draw into the fight, creating a bigger whaagh and more opportunity for new warbosses to rise. He only intervened when they are close to losing to keep the morale.
I really do think that a crusade to purge the Octarius sector would either cripple humanity (military wise) beyond recovery or usher in their complete destruction. Honestly I see this being on scale wit the 13th black crusade or the forming of the great rift
Like you say; it would be great if Ontarius continued serves as more interesting stories of Imperium and Eldar working together.
The fall of the Ork overlord could rise to many different ork warbosses who could become akin to chapter masters we have so many stories about for the space marines.
Were necrons waiting for the tyranids to dig out the Orks on the planet Ontarius so that they could then fight what they see as an easier foe before they reveal buried tombs beneath the surface?
It serves as an opportunity for new lord models and more army models in general for krieg, orks, Nids, necrons and even inquisition.
Heck... with the black Templars being there in near full force and the empirial strategy relying on forming a giant bulwark against the multiple flavored waved of xenos it sure would be an interesting time for a certain yellow primarch to re-emerge with some true ideas on how to fortify the emperor loving balls out of the Imperiums border.
One can dream.
One can dream... :'(
After finishing the latest Necron books (the twice dead king), I'm dying for Luetin to cover Necrons again. there are soooooo many interesting and new things regarding their technology, society, culture, history, war in heaven...etc Honestly, it made me a bigger fan of Necrons than any other faction currently.
Necrons using gravity to sling shot asteroids light years away to be able to remove stars from the sky. We learn that wih was sustained for 5 million year engagement. Ghostwind the place where c’tan come from the opposite to the warp. Loads of great new info on the necrons.
@@supremercommonder and the name of the bone king as well..... if that's true
There's a necron dynasty that controls the celestial orrery. It's a device that displays a holographic image of every star in the cosmos. If anything or one were to snuff out one of the stars on the map, then the actual star in real space will go supernova swallowing every planet and moon orbiting it. Luckily the Royal Court of Thanatos see themselves as the Gardners of Creation and only use the device to prune the galaxy to prevent it from being overgrown. The Oruscar Dynasty have used it also to prevent the device from falling into the hands of other Necron and alien races.
I love these long lore videos and i watch them over and over. The only thing i would change is the music volume in between segments because there is a large volume difference between the intence music and your voice. Other than that these videos are perfect and i will keep coming back for more regardless. Keep up the good work 😊
I want to reupload these videos with the music removed so I can fall asleep to them
@@ragmt09 but the music really works with the video, and for the most part its only the very beginning and end. Most of the music mid video is perfect still
An absolutely insane conflict. The best part is that "Orkeosaurus" is a thing.
I can only imagine the excitement of the Black Templar as they saw the sheer qauntity of Melee combat ahead of them
These videos might take a while to do but are worth the wait 👍
Awesome, perfect timing, I tend to fall asleep listening to your videos. Not sure why but it's awesome. This is one of the craziest wars in 40k. I wonder if GW are going to further it towards it's finish or just let it stand for another 40 years lol.
I've become part android... falling asleep with my ear peice nestled at my pillow... the sweet, macabre of endless war echoing in my mind like a spell spoken by a true, master.
This nasty thing is very hard to solve. A Tyranid hive fleet with unlimited access to biomass can doom entire galaxy.
Another 40k* years ;) hehe
Bruh i literally put on Evasor assissins Video from Luetin every time i got to bed
and wake up listening to the daemonculaba hell of a Wake up call
I just want to say it was the Forge Spire's Machine Spirit that kept it from being breached not just the Templars.
Lately my warhammer content has been tabletop focused and hearing some rants. That’s important of course, but I didn’t realize until now how exhausting it got. So thanks for the lore, it’s a needed breath of fresh air.
It’s a dangerous and easy cycle to get into it can destroy your enthusiasm as happened to me with battlefield
@@Luetin09 amen. Keep up the amazing work.
This commentary and storytelling leaves me breathless beyond recovery. As a massive fan of the black templars that mid-segment was simply glorious.
Although the biggest factions involved are clearly the tyranids, imperium and orks, it seems that the inclusion of chaos, necrons and potentially eldari may mean they have a bigger part to play going forward in octarius.
If you are right about tiamat then the story has written in a way to maintain the tyranid threat from there, or even step up the threat, while they could establish the power and threat of the necrons to a greater degree.
If tyranids are developed through tiamat, necrons are established with the silent king having a victory in octarius and chaos obviously overcame the meme of the first 12 black crusades with the results of the 13th then all the "bad guys" have spent the last years significantly turning up the danger levels.
Unless there is a significant necron development that i have missed.
The sheer amount of artwork alone is astonishing. The lore just makes it all fall together!
Great video! I am curious how a Drukhari Haemonculus got captured. Those are very valueable members of the Dark Eldar. I would imagine Asdrubael Vect is pretty pissed about that. All in all I think it could be clever way by the writers to get the Dark Eldar involved in all this.
Or it was gifted- can't get more slaves for the pits if they're all eaten by Tyrranids, right?
It's a ploy by the dark eldar. The mere idea of torturing information out of a haemonculus is absurd, and whatever he tells them will serve his own purposes. Those might align with the Imperium's current needs - Tyranids are probably boring and annoying to his kind and setting the idiot mon-keigh to fighting them a bit more effectively would be amusing. But in the end he's doing it for himself, and will just die and respawn back home when he's done fooling around.
Hell, given how stupid the mon-keigh are, letting them "torture" info out of him might be the only way a dark eldar could get them to believe even part of what he's saying.
Luetin the Lore Master videos=Perfect mini painting time.
Please do more lore videos on the Primarchs. This channel is awesome for listening on long drives
The King has returned!!! And as always, nothing is ok in 40k. Glad to have you back.
Seems to me, the imperium ought to eliminate the Tyranids with brutal cunning at the first opportunity. It's a story though, so I imagine that won't happen. Weird that Warhammer is offering an opposition story to Enders Game. The 'Bugs' of Enders Game didn't realize they were killing sentient beings and tried to change their ways because they didn't know initially. The Tyranids know and actively use sentience to manipulate from within, in order to weaken their target.
Honestly, an Ork universe sounds preferable to a Tyranid one.
There’s no comparison because a Tyranid universe is no universe at all. If they win all that’s left is oblivion. An Ork galaxy however would be the ultimate galactic kraterocracy. An entire galaxy ruled by the concept that might and might alone makes right. A brutal, uncompromising ideology. However it’s a largely equal opportunity one that encourages excellence and rewards the strongest.
It still boggles my mind how any chapter believes the Emperor is a god. I know the Black Templars don’t follow the Imperial Truth and I can understand if the Grey Knights or some recent 20th whatever founding chapter believe he’s a god, but a second founding chapter? Did the Black Templars believe the Emperor was a god since Sigismund? Do they understand that other chapters don’t believe The Emperor is a god, and if they do, how do they react? Do they think less of them or just don’t think much of it? What about Grimaldis? Is he just an exception or and is the larger Black Templars aware of his non-belief the Emperor is a god? So many questions.
Generally, Marines don't see the Emperor as a God - they see him as the pinnacle of Mankind, the creator of their gene seed. But, as with all Chapters, each is different - the Space Wolves see the Emperor as the All-Father, the sire of all. I think the Grey Knights see him as definitely NOT a god (their Gene-seed is taken from the Emperor, not a Primarch), but he is somehow tied to their ability to fight Chaos. The Black Templars are one of the chapters that do revere him as God-like, but I'm pretty sure they're in the minority of chapters in that respect (Also remember, the Black Templars were formed from the most fanatical of the Imperial Fist Legion, and 10,000 years of crusading has only made it more pronounced).
I think for 10000 years fighting against Chaos, Orks and Tyranids, many of original member from the legion is death. And new generation replace, drive from kids of normal citizens that worship Emperor as a god. The remaining simply cannot stop the tide anymore.
Dude the Emperor was 10 feet tall, radiated golden light, and was probably the single strongest being in the materium in a universe where gods exist for sure it's not that hard to rationalize
@@andrew3606 Exactly
@@andrew3606 The point being is that those chapters existed (well at least their parent chapters) when the Emperor was still walking around. And while he was walking, he was telling everyone with ears that he was not a god, and such worship was dangerous.
I'm retired. So I stop everything and launch Luetin09 content as soon as I see it. Cheers.
Haha me too 🤣
old and bald lmao
I didn't think they'd let Nick Fury retire
@@johngavin2570 i get it because Nick Fury's bald lmao
I saw these warzones are "excuses" for tabletop conflict settings. An attempt to recapture the way it used to work, unshifting battle grounds feature most if not all the sides. THis allows them to push the main story with the usual suspects while not making the universe feel small. It also allows them to answer "what has X group been doing" (in octarius case, the black templar). I expect to see more warzones, each involving many factions, with one in the lead, with a cameo from a group or minorish character or chapter like Crimson fists.
awesome stuff mate. I freaking love the orks, besides having a jolly good time, are not scared to try and rear and tame captured tyranid bioforms. LOL, never change Orks..
Man! I don't care to play the game, but gosh DAYUM is the lore amazing!
And Luetin!!!! Yours has become my favorite voice to hear while sharing this lore. New fav channel all day long!!!!
I'm really loving how insane this conflict has gotten and I really hope it escalates even further. I'm almost certain this would never happen, but Imagine if someone shows up with another Blackstone Fortress and uses it to annihilate Tiamat. That'd be sick.
I've been slowly getting into your videos over the last 6 months or so and I really love them. Oddly enough, I don't think I have ever played a warhammer game, 40k or otherwise. This lore is so fun to experience, and you really add to that. Thanks you for all your videos.
Thank you Luetin for this lore. Truly we are blessed by His grace.
Nothing like late night building and painting when a notification for Luetin pops up.
While I understand 40K's primary purpose as a tabletop game means that it's in GW's interest to keep as many things as perpetual as possible, it really is so enjoyable to actually real STORIES out of it when we can.
I still remember being annoyed with how long it took to conclude the active story arc of Warhammer Fantasu back in the day. And it'd be really neat to get more actual lore development in the current state of the 40K universe.
I know this is more a comment on your audible ad, but your statement about how lore reignites your passion really clicked with me. Often times, the 40k books feel almost operatic in nature, exaggerated examinations of the human condition. Within that, I'll often connect with certain characters or situations in stories, which can be helpful in hard times.
Good vid, like the Octarius update! I think this is like my 3rd or 4th watch lol.
You should be proud man. Deep down inside so many people in the comments just love your video's and lore. Thanks so much man. It means alot just to relax and listen.
This is all i wanted, massive mashup between orks and tyranids, hummies and korn are bonus ofcourse .D i Wonder if they pack a battlebarge full of nukes towards the tyranid beacon ...
I love your videos! You are one of few channels I actively await your next video, and watch them multiple times as they help me fall asleep😊 Tyrannids are my favourite faction in 40K and the Octarius war is so interesting! You covered it well, and have inspired to buy my first miniatures!😍 I can't wait to wreak havoc with my tormagants, gene stealers and trygon😆
I accidentally turned my volume all the way up at 26:21 and it shook my very soul.
Unlike your other supportive long term fans, I discovered you about a month ago and have already gone through a solid 80% of your lore content, so I appreciate the new vids
All of your videos are amazing, and they just keep getting better and better!
Your voice is transporting me right into the grim and dark, dark future. But then again, every time you narrate an Urk, it is impossible to contain the bursting laughter. Love that contrast.
at 22:40 it gave me chills, not because of the horrific shriek, but because of the production value itself - right there with Jeff Wayne's War of the worlds, only in a galactic scale!
Thank you, Lore Master.
Luetin you bloddy mad lad. What a great video. Definitly best WH40k Lore narrator on yt. Goosebumbs.
It’s a nice change of pace to see other Xenos tear each other apart instead of just humans
It reminds me of a tenebrious king of the hill fighting match
Got off work and checked my phone to see a very nice treat. Thank you for the work you do.
*puts down my last tasty cube of corpse starch" Thank you for all your research and hard work, Luetin!I always love your vids!
An HOUR and quarter so worth the wait will have to watch 3 or 4 times today, too relaxing and exciting at the same time that rocks me to sleep, i have a broken back and medication is not very helpfull😉 thank you sir
Cheers mate, I too have a smoked back and listen to Leutin while staring at the ceiling trying to pretend I'm not in my body. Hope your condition gets better
I can honestly say, this s*** better than netflix. Been bingeing or weeks and finally caved; I just have to add my name the legions of fans expressing how amazing this entire channel is. My favourite 'show' right now in the world. Keep it up man - and I can't wait to see what happens next! This Tyranid problem is really concerning!!!
Nice to see the master of 40K lore is back!
A look at the initial assault on octarius by the nids would be a great vid, as I remember the initial fleet was entirely destroyed at one point and it was only the use of clever tactics on behalf of the remaining Tyranid ground forces. Could be a shorter video I think
21:05 NO Drax NO! it's just as thick from the inside!
You are one of the MAIN Sources of Warhammer 40k i follow and inspired me to also start listening the audiobooks. Thank you.
45:10
this is very, very new to me. I was not aware that Tyrranids possessed the will and independent thought for a swarmlord to 'focus in' on details, and become aware of things that its predecessors had missed, and accordingly 'devise' strategies. It's almost like...it has evolved an 'individuality'. I know they can adapt, and here it seems they've literally adapted to 'think' rather than just rely on instinct. Almost like they're developing the ability to plan and counter specifically in response to their failures against the Orks.
Well some bio forms return and become recurring creatures like Old one Eye
Nids could away do this, but they prefer to "bury them in body's" and infestation cults then other tactic's tho this don't stop them form being more tactical minded with those strategy and more. The only reason why their where being more tactfully is that their usually strategy's just don't work with these heavily fortified and hyped up orks in this scenario, thinks like these requires more intelligent and sleight of hand then just brute force. And so after a whole bunch of trail and error the hive tyrant (not Swarm lord, which is the special character for the hive tyrant like Guilliman and blitzkrieg Ghazghkull) finally got the idea for being more cunning after the many deaths of it predecessor.
The Swarmlord has been able to do this for a while.
Did you forget how the Swarmlord made a trap for Calgar during the First Tyrannic War?
Just finished the 2 old vids about the rise and fall of the emperor and you sir are an excellent story teller. I got shivers and almost had tears in certain parts. And all this hasn't even happened yet!
One of my favourite warhammer RUclips Creators. Thank you Luetin!
I once make the mistake of sleeping hearing your stories cuase they relax me I ended up waking up to a headache and a history of the demonculaba
It seems like GW consistently disregards their own lore when it comes to plots involving the Tyranids. It has long been established that warp travel is rendered impossible in proximity to a hive fleet due to the shadow in the warp. And yet, somehow the imperium always seems to manage to get troop through to save the day (never mind how a chaos incursion could even manifest). I guess plot armor must prevail, even when it must amputate itself to do so.
Tyranids are heavily nerfed within the universe, they would be waaay stronger, specially if they adapt ork spore reproduction for themself! wich would happen if the hive can really adapt to whatever it finds!
What matters most is "How can we just make a buncha people fight" regardless if it makes sense. Just enjoy the ridiculousness of the entire universe as a whole haha
@@anthon0360no
I have recently been challenged by a conundrum. When I watch your videos, I feel inspired for a new Stellaris run. When I play Stellaris, I just want to continue watching your videos. The result is that I can't focus much on either. Woe this time of relative plenty.
Warhammer needs to have bundles on audible. There is no war in hell anyone is going to spend hundreds of dollars to listen to all the warhammer books. Most of them are really really short.
Spot on man almost $40
I literally cannot express how awesome your videos are and how much they help me with laundry, sleep, dishes, driving, fucking everything man. Keep up the good work!
Well so much for going to bed. Thanks Luetin!
The occasional switch into talkin' orky is so funny. Also I'm glad to know wurldkilla is spelled with a u.
End of the imperium? Sounds like heresy to me!
As a dark pointy ear, I welcome the fall of the mon-keigh. I shall harvest
Yes, this is the end of entire galaxy. The one lead to this should be turned into servitor and launch into Dark Eldar capital.
I love how this whole sector wide war is a literal embodiment of "and then it got worse" bloody amazing..
First, I LOVE these videos. Thank you for them!!!
From a lore perspective, I’m getting pretty sick of Tyranids. They’re basically the Grey Knights of xenos. Physically unstoppable, immune to psychics, free from infighting, if their leaders die they instantly get new better leaders, their setbacks just lead to more and bigger hive fleets from offscreen, and they can plan and learn and invent as much as they need to for whatever conflict they’re involved in, while given all the privileges of being mindless monsters when they need those. They have no flaw that can be exploited, and therefore no way to lose that’s dramatically resonant. They’re basically a metaphor for inevitable death, which would be fine except that they have all the advantages and characteristics of being alive with none of the downsides (like caring about pain or even being able to die) so they’re bad even as a metaphor.
The one dramatic purpose I can see them serving in a way that isn’t just “Tyranid plot armor destroys the galaxy” is this: they finally force humanity to allow research again, or maybe force the Orks to think again. Which could both go horribly wrong, of course, and still lead to cosmic destruction, but I’m pretty sick of humanity fighting these dei ex machina with one hand tied behind its back.
Basically my problem is this: if the Tyranids overrun the galaxy, there’d be no reason they did, no decision by any group that mattered. It’d just have been the writers deciding there was no way to stop them.
You forgot about the shadow of the warp which lets them fight Imperial forces without the threat of reinforcements. Also because of that most of their victory's are not recorded. So even for a nids fan its frustrating seeing them lose most on screen battles.
I also think that genestealers should have been separate from Tyranids just for lore reasons. Why can their claws rip through terminator armor but most other Tyranid forms of similar size can't
I don't see them being alive as problematic for the metaphor of the inevitable death. They're literally a Force of Nature, unable to be reasoned with or gotten out of the path of. Much like a Hurricane, but on a galactic scale.
Originally they might no have meant to be so terrifying, but they're the end of this universe, as they have already been of others, as how the writing is progressing.
This is all due tto GWs choice to make the setting progress, rather than an explored setting. You can't have the Tyranid Galactic Invasion progress without showing how utterly unstoppable such a premise is.
@@shadowrobot7708 I think nids fans should always be thinking that because their army has infinite points and no one else’s does, every loss is really a victory.
@@kangtheknightx Bit of a rant here. It’s not directed at you; your point is very reasonable. Just trying to explain myself.
The problem is that having such a perfect, unstoppable, limitless force that is also intelligent runs counter to everything else in 40k.
Tyranids can think; they can understand and leverage emotions and social connections, as seen in genestealers and in their frustrated scream mentioned in the video; they can work together and plan; they can invent. But they never infight, they have no pride, and they ignore the Warp (the supposed consequence of being both intelligent and alive in the 40k verse) entirely, at least its negative effects. They’re not death at all, or the inevitability of death. They’re just the most awesome and awesomely boring group alive, able to kill everything else just because they inexplicably overcome all the other thematic problems of being alive via perfect universe-wide instant telepathy and accord, all the intelligence they need, unlimited resources, lack of any consequences for failure and therefore lack of fear, and the power to repurpose any resource to do whatever they need to at speed. A universe in which the Tyranids win is one of eternal cosmic harmony, one in which all of life is in constant communion with itself, infinite in variety and potential, perfectly adapted to every situation and environment, free from conflict but also without the restrictions of uniformity or stagnation. Heck, they’re probably immune to entropy somehow to boot. They are, frankly, the stupid happy ending of the story, implying that all the troubling questions and tensions the history of life in 40k has posed have answers, but all those answers come down to “have the writer fix that for you with magic.”
There is one dramatic reason I can see for the Tyranids to exist: to highlight that humanity is refusing to use the one canonical way it might have to effectively fight them, that being actually doing science (or at least allowing themselves to think new ideas) again. New Men of Iron could conceivably clean house and make the Tyranids run back home to mommy (right before said Men wiped out humanity themselves, probably). But then, why wouldn’t the ‘nids just “evolve” even more awesome super-anti-Men of Iron, or overwhelm whatever got invented with infinite biomass from offscreen, like they can do with everything else?
To get to the point: the Tyranids are proof that the downsides of all the other factions and species are BS, not actual problems. Tyranids have *desire* and *intent* without *any drawback*. If other species wanted to overcome infighting, Chaos, sadness, fear, the pain of loss, whatever, they totally could. Just do a Warp-free universal mind hug like the ‘nids do, and then magically acquire infinite resources. No problem.
Really, by this point, the Tyranids should have by all rights “evolved” to transform inorganic elements into carbon or whatever they consider biomass and not even be worried about going after just living things any more. Their entire home galaxy should be a big fat totally organic Dyson sphere powered by an ultramassive central star perpetually rejuvenated by their super-intelligent yet still somehow mindless evolutionary magic. Like a huge Pac-Man, it should just eat the whole 40k galaxy in one bite, leading to perfect endless joyful boredom.
You know, after writing this, I’m weirdly kinda rooting for them. Maybe I’m a genestealer at heart 🙂
47:53 I don't know why but the phrase: "Gork's Bonce," had me giggling hysterically.
It seems to me the possible reason they believe they may be able to get something useful out of the captured dark eldar may have something to do with gaining the knowledge of how to create the glass virus that you mentioned in another video could be very useful against tyranids and their ships. Be interested to know what others think?
Down of War chant at the beginning of the video.It is so good.Keep up the good work.
Yaaay, octarius, been looking forward to this . Change of plans for tonight now. Not watching Spiderman no way home, chilling and listening to this while painting my custodes 😁😁😁
Thank you so much for covering events involving my Templar bois. Been so ready for you to talk about them!
Video is an hour+ long, video has been up for 15 minutes, video has 200+ likes. Well done brothers
Don't wanna call myself an OG but I've been around since about 150k. And I've gotta say, you continue to blow me away with your content. Keep up this amazing content and good luck with all your endeavors!!
Honestly I was following the lore pretty at the start of eight. But now with all the weird time jumps I would love to see a timeline of everything that happend from the fall of cadia to where we are now. Not requiring that much detail of the events just what happend when.
As always the content is excellent. I've rewatched your videos from years back and don't care one bit if I have to wait longer for a new video. Your health takes precedent and you should take the time you need regardless how long it is, we will still be here
"Octarius" Eight Factions
1. Imperium
2. Orks
3. Tyranids
4. Chaos
5. Aeldari
6. Drukhari
7. Tau
8. Necrons
I think this is going to grow into a Gettysburg of sorts, a seemingly small fight that leads to a massive convergence of forces that makes a decisive turning point.
Been listening to your stuff for a few years now. Love it. Finally hitting the like and subscribe button. Your content is enjoyed by way more than the analytics suggest. Keep up the good work! Any less unthinkable, any more, impossible.
You need Necron Weapons to stop them
So you can get rid of the Biomass
I'm going to watch this after part 1 tomorrow because for some reason I love listening to these videos whilst not being a warhammer fan myself.
Gotta get up early, head into town and continue my course for some qualifications in some stuff.
I really doubt that the Octarius war is over. Though the Octarius system has fallen and the Overfiend lies dead I think that we will see something that will slow the nid onslaught long enough for the orks to regroup. I enjoyed the series overall and agree that we needed more books to give a deep dive into this conflict. Keep it up Luetin, you madlad!!
This came out just as I was setting down to get an urgent assignment for my ICT Course finished.
Truly,I am blessed by the God-Emperor
its hard for me to see how and why the imperium can have any say in how this war can end,best case scenario,they fight forever and there is no victor,worse case ,an amalgam of orc and tyranid,so strong ,even imperium in its prime with the emperor and his primarchs ,losing a war of galactic scale,but my bet ,the silent king will enter the story
*cough* virus bombs*cough
I love/hate how human the Tyrranid frustration scream sounds
How's your voice doing Luetin? You sound great these days and the pace of your video releases is a blessing indeed!
What an absolute epic tale of battle! Perfect delivery as always, Luetin.