I bet the entire case acted like an enormous heatsink for the radiator since it's sitting flush and that's why the temps didn't go as high as you thought they would
@@DawidDoesTechStuff having the radiator against the case will distribute heat to the rest of the computer so your motherboard can feel warm and cozy in the winter. 😂
Not to mention just how open it is to the air around it and not being trapped inside a standard enclosed case that requires chassis fans to push cool air through it. I bet you wouldn't even need the radiator fans on it and just having a ceiling fan on circulating air in the room would be enough... maybe lol.
I think the standoffs were for radiator... not motherboard. Standoffs into radiator, screws into standoffs through case. Motherboard directly to case... just a guess. That wobble though!!
This case is a great example of a cool concept that needed more development. Had they made the base connection more stable and soldered standoffs to the chassis for the radiator like they did for the motherboard it would be way better already!
For like the first time ever with one of these cases, when Dawid was done building it I actually said "that's pretty cool looking". I feel dirty and horrible for having said it though.
I am impressed at how beautifully ugly that case is. It honestly feels like something you could find in some of the more "Style over Function" sections of Ikea.
The metal radiator was contacting the metal case and adding enough mass that heat could transfer into. I suspect that eventually, it would have started to get hotter but with standoffs, not a bad option. A nice case but not one for me.
The reason the screws didn't work for you at first is the powder coating on the threads. They technically should have plugged those holes during painting. Eventually you wore it down enough that it worked, hahaha.
Computer cases bore me. Really like seeing something different on the market, but on the same note, want something that works as well. Remember someone saying how dumb it was that I took an old microwave window and mounted it into the side of my beige computer case and painted it. Think it's time for the modding community to take it to the next level again.
Agreed! Now that the days of needing external devices for IO (5.25", 3.5") are gone, there is so much more flexibility in how you can build a case. This case had perhaps the right idea, but very poor execution.
There’s some companies that do a fair number of interesting cases. Of note of the top of my head would be cougar, I have one of their cases and I remember looking at all the options they have on their website when I was chassis-shopping. While mine is just a basic case, they’ve got everything from basic to completely bizarre. And a fair number of SKU’s of said bizarre cases too.
china domestic market is really exciting, and no I'm not talking about the meme-y stuff like the one in the vid, actual serious polished pc case designs. Especially in itx form factor. It's going to be difficult to navigate but try getting an idea of what I'm saying by typing ITX into bilibili and take a look at the thumbnails.
@@1nicube 2 minutes or so doesn't class as most of the video, like example, most of the video being a complaint about lack of clear directions which caused a non stop struggle. That would be more accurate
How would that work though? You can’t screw through the radiator into a stand-off? The plastic spacer I used in the end of the video was from Bequiet cooler mounting, not the from the case.
The radiator doesn't need stand offs if you're running it in a pull configuration. There's always ambient air around, and the fans will be pulling the heat off the fins, and launching it into the abyss if there is room on the other side of the radiator or not
This is an impressive level of innovation they managed to choke off the airflow even on an open air case! :P This case is sort of interesting, but they really need to add in some ventilation holes behind the rad or include standoffs and come up with a way to space out the feet for better stability or add in some T shaped and angled reinforcement on the feet and back plate for better rigidity or just make the back plate and feet 2-3 times thicker.
i have the thermaltake wall mountable "case" i love it and see no reason to ever upgrade. especially with cards getting so big. having an open air case gives al lteh room. the dust is meh, but not as bad as i was expecting. also wll mounting the pc is soooo nice. frees up room, and keeps teh heat away from you.
Either the standoffs we're for the cooler, or the entire center panel acted as a heatsink 😂. Also, if you could somehow weld/glue some rods to connect the top to the base, you could reduce the wobble and it would look pretty cool!
This case is only for use in dust free environments. Imagine having a cat or dog. You would be using air canister to blow dust off every couple of days.
4:20 word has it inside those bags of screws were even more bags of screws. dawid is currently recovering from surgery in hospital after being crushed by 30000lbs of tiny bags of screws. thoughts & prayers.
I feel like these types of cases are made by some one in a CAD software either for a school project or part of some internship type thing and never meant to be made, but someone decided otherwise and fired up their laser cutter.
Dawid... I don't think you were supposed to mount the radiator on those standoffs because I feel that is just adding propaganda back onto the "100% stable and not a health risk at all" chassis top quality content as always
It might be that the radiator fans blew the air trough the radiator, but the pressure pushed the air backwards trough the fans and into the main airflow of the case. This generally happens when fans are blocked
It's a good example of why some cases that people think have no ventilation, actually have far more than they think. Even pushed up against a flat service airflow is happening at a surprising rate, so a thinnish gap going all the way across the edge can be surprising - as long as the rest of the case is designed well enough to take it into account.
Could always have mounted the fans on the radiator as exhaust that way instead of pushing air through them into a tiny gap it would pull the hot air away from the radiator into an open space.
If the solid AIO mount bothers you, you COULD always just grab a hole saw from your local tool store....... there's enough space on the Motherboard side to pull air that way, and it [mostly] fixes the problem.
@Slywerk it doesn't matter which way the fans are mounted to the Rad, Different case designs have space limitations so sometimes you need the fans to mount infront or behind the Rad as either Push or Pull
David I love every video you make and how goofy it becomes. As you love to buy dumb tech stuff can you buy the Cubeor Kanto case as it is one of the most unique cases I've seen. Thanks
The fact is that most watercooling radiators are mounted the wrong way, so they almost have no air passing through them. If it was mounted horizontally/flat the natural tendancy of hot air to go up would increase cooling properties a lot.
Hey @Dawid I'd love to see you make a video showing "What prebuilt computers SHOULD be like", where you take OEM's to "school" and show them how it's done. Good price/performance, fair/reasonable profit margin, good IO, good ventilation, no over-the-top RGB, etc. Perhaps even show how a de-bloated OS would look like. And then maybe as a second video, "What manufacturers apparently THINK prebuilt computers should be like", where you build a computer like a brain-dead OEM, showing all of the common OEM-like mistakes. A third video might even be able to show what kind of performance gains you can expect by just avoiding building a computer like an OEM would, even with the same parts. "Computer performance comparison: DIY/Custom vs OEM" If somehow you're able to then partner with an OEM or manufacturer to launch a series of prebuilts that actually use your tips and tricks, that would just be icing on the cake as it were. Cheers. :)
According to the product page, there is 80mm of clearance for CPU cooling, and even though they recommend to use an AIO, it still leaves enough room for most top down air coolers, so that alternative should still be possible.
@@alensyhn4850 The most standard towers are about 157mm+ in height so no towers. (Cooler Master 212: the gold standard). It's only usable for box coolers and AIOs.
@@iancurrie8844 which is why I mentioned "top-down", not "towers" :) For instance, a Cryorig C1 is 74mm tall, a Noctua NH-L12s 72mm, and both would perform pretty well in this situation (cooling a Ryzen 3700x in an open air design). Smaller designs are also available, and they're commonly used in SFF builds, though they might lead to compromise in power / thermals. Anyway, I stand by my point : air cooling in this case should be possible.
@@alensyhn4850 Yes indeed. Let's meet in the middle and say that of the really effective cooling methods: AIO is the only viable option. The truly effective towers are a NO_GO.
The reason it's still cool enough is cuz the Radiator is touching a hunk of metal in a semi-open case so the fans are still cooling the rad and the case is like a huge heatsink keeping it cool cuz of the open air. It still would have been smarter to put standoffs in for the radiator though.
Back in the day airflow was a thing, i guess i can throw my clean no rainbow rgb black cooler master case away and just mount everything on a IKEA desklamp to have some sick lights in it🤣👌 great video, keep it up 👌
What about pushing the radiator through the hole rather than the pump head. Also, push config on the radiator. Would that make any difference? It should have enough air as it’s an open case? Just my 2 cents worth
10:05 this design is truly amazing, I would love something like this BUT as a closed case design with black tempered glass, not sure how they are gonna make it work but it has a lot of potential
It looks like you can put the radiator through the slot above it from the front side, and then use the first system you wanted to use, instead of the smaller one.
But with just a little more thought that case would be amazing, add a cut-out for the radiator, plus if they break up the stand design to use those supports the rest of the panels use to separate them and make it space out for rigidity it would also have the added advantage of allowing it to be really flat packed and sent in a really compact box, cutting down transportation costs.
@@--_DJ_-- possibly, I commented while I was watching, it just struck me as the sensible thing to do in that situation and I couldn't imagine him not thinking of it too.
@@SteveBBR We all do it, it's just funny when you read them. I think he was just following the instructions which showed it plastered to the back of the case.
5:52 well you could try it the other way. Dissassemble those fans from the radiator and then push the radiator through the cutout from the motherboard side.
That big AIO the top part comes off. It is basically decoration. I know because I used one of those for a mini ITX build and I ended up having to just ditch it because it was too big.
in my opinion that is a really unique case and the only downside I don't like is the unstable legs but with a few modifications of the structure its possible to make some crazy build. 6/10 on the rating for me.
And after BeQuiet saw the abuse of their AIO, they asked for all of them back in order to save them from more abuse LoL. I just don't see how long term that's gonna work if there's no air flow from both sides. Thanks for saving us from yet another bad Amazon case.
the wobble seems to be mainly caused by the bottom not being perfectly flag, so like adding some rubber feet to it or something might fix the wobble, and then this would actually would be a great case.
I think there were enough tiny gaps around the radiator for some air to squeeze through. A cool experiment would be to seal the entire perimeter of the radiator with silicone to stop any air flow
Fans were blowing air into the radiator and air just escaped any way it could, through some gaps, blowback, that also provided a bit of cooling. Without fans it would overheat eventually I think.
4:$0 Because of the threading being powder coated over. You have to break the "paint" coating that had filled the holes for the screws. You see this often on car parts and such. Careful doing so though has it can cause the screws//bolts to cross thread easily.
I have to say, Dawid, that intro was flawless. Straight to the point, tells us all we need to know. And what a case! Surprisingly good quality components, with surprisingly good performance. Just need to fix that wobble. Lol
While watching this video and seeing Dawid struggle with the case instructions I had this thought - people do give crap to IKEA about their furniture quality, that's fair, but where they do excel is their dumb-proof instructions - without using a single word they make them really understandable.
Dawid, you're right about the radiator, looking at the Amazon reviews, people were saying they had to go to the hardware store to buy standoffs for their AIO rad.
I have had this case for almost 13 months now (just over a year) I havent suffered any problems yet. I Have an Ryzen 7 5900x with a 240mm rad with constant 54-60 c and rtx 3070(before the price drop) that also stays in the high 50's to mid 60's with no other problems and yeah it has a wobble from the top but unless you force this case over it will not fall the foot base is like thick/solid steel and heavy as hell.
3700X on an Asus prime mobo and a 3060? You just built the first prebuilt PC I bought about a year and a half ago. Still rocking the 3700X in a new build with a 3070ti.
What's funny to me is how the GPU extends even further that the glass and could have been easily solved by including a riser cable and turning it sideways
I _just_ put this case on a wishlist a few days ago because I thought it looked pretty sweet. I wouldn't water cool it though, I was thinking air cooler. But I can't find info anywhere (I've posted a question on the Amazon listing) about what cooler height it can take. The wobbling doesn't really bother me, I don't live in an environment (no kids or jumping animals) where that would be a problem.
Wow. I was seriously looking at this case for an open loop I could be ok with having to mod to get a better radiator airflow solution. But, damn, that wobble! That's a no deal for sure
At 6:29 one can clearly see three standoffs with one probably being covered by that metal plate. But, it wouldn't be Dawid if he would have used the standoffs in the first place :)
That TUF RTX 3060 has been through a lot of systems. I'm curious what will happen to it when you finally find the case that will choke it. Can't you take and angle grinder or what ever it's called to make some perforations to the case?
I mean, it looks kinda cool but considering how much money they are asking for that thing I would have expected it to be a bit better thought out for things like the Rad mount and the overall stability. That seemingly rather thin stand for that case seems like something that might be prone to material fatique from stress after a while.
Putting the rad fans on exhaust (flip them) would certainly have helped thermals as well Regarding coolant temperature rising I've noticed in my systems that it was only +6 to 8 degrees no more
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I bet the entire case acted like an enormous heatsink for the radiator since it's sitting flush and that's why the temps didn't go as high as you thought they would
That is a good point! I guess the radiator mounting does make sense. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff having the radiator against the case will distribute heat to the rest of the computer so your motherboard can feel warm and cozy in the winter. 😂
Not to mention just how open it is to the air around it and not being trapped inside a standard enclosed case that requires chassis fans to push cool air through it. I bet you wouldn't even need the radiator fans on it and just having a ceiling fan on circulating air in the room would be enough... maybe lol.
3700x also doesn't get very hot. I have a thick 120 AIO and it's plenty to keep mine cool on a open air rig. It has a pretty low TDP
It’s clearly shown in the case diagram that this is built for a custom water cooled gpu
I think the standoffs were for radiator... not motherboard. Standoffs into radiator, screws into standoffs through case. Motherboard directly to case... just a guess. That wobble though!!
the white ones for the radiator, black ones for the motherboard, and that is why the screws didnt fit, probably correct
am pretty sure he knows he just like sh*tting on products for the vids. wouldn't base my shopping off is reviews
I think the no standoff approach was dumping heat into the chassis through contact.
The aio pump will die, Dawid should be in jail for that installation
@@xMaFiaKinGz It depends whether the actual pump is in the block or the radiator itself though.
This case is a great example of a cool concept that needed more development.
Had they made the base connection more stable and soldered standoffs to the chassis for the radiator like they did for the motherboard it would be way better already!
For like the first time ever with one of these cases, when Dawid was done building it I actually said "that's pretty cool looking". I feel dirty and horrible for having said it though.
there was standoffs for the rad, it shows them clearly in the instructions.
Concept 9/10, execution 4/10.
If the brackets for the base were steel instead of aluminum this would likely be more stable and not wobble so much.
@@cv990a4 LOL yeah but the case structure is somewhat weak.
When i look at that case i feel like i have 10 seconds to comply
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I truly like these videos. And even after watching every video you have made, watching them a 2nd, 3rd even 4th time they are still fun to watch.
indeed
Very true
you are correct.
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I’m really glad to hear you enjoyed it. 😃
I am impressed at how beautifully ugly that case is. It honestly feels like something you could find in some of the more "Style over Function" sections of Ikea.
The metal radiator was contacting the metal case and adding enough mass that heat could transfer into. I suspect that eventually, it would have started to get hotter but with standoffs, not a bad option. A nice case but not one for me.
idk man
bro there a gap between the radiator fins and the case
It's a great day when Dawid uploads lads.
indeed
amen, awomen and a-people!!
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Especially when there a death match arena of death..
@@bonganihalimani9572 Dude that's the best lol 😂
The reason the screws didn't work for you at first is the powder coating on the threads. They technically should have plugged those holes during painting. Eventually you wore it down enough that it worked, hahaha.
you thought only ikea made wobbly flat pack you thought wrong🤣🤣
Computer cases bore me. Really like seeing something different on the market, but on the same note, want something that works as well. Remember someone saying how dumb it was that I took an old microwave window and mounted it into the side of my beige computer case and painted it. Think it's time for the modding community to take it to the next level again.
Agreed! Now that the days of needing external devices for IO (5.25", 3.5") are gone, there is so much more flexibility in how you can build a case. This case had perhaps the right idea, but very poor execution.
There’s some companies that do a fair number of interesting cases. Of note of the top of my head would be cougar, I have one of their cases and I remember looking at all the options they have on their website when I was chassis-shopping. While mine is just a basic case, they’ve got everything from basic to completely bizarre. And a fair number of SKU’s of said bizarre cases too.
china domestic market is really exciting, and no I'm not talking about the meme-y stuff like the one in the vid, actual serious polished pc case designs. Especially in itx form factor. It's going to be difficult to navigate but try getting an idea of what I'm saying by typing ITX into bilibili and take a look at the thumbnails.
I'm almost positive you're supposed to mount the AIO on standoffs so that it can suck in air from the sides
Like Dawid did in the end of the video
most of the video was im complanong about the case because he made an error and after make it the right way.
@@1nicube 2 minutes or so doesn't class as most of the video, like example, most of the video being a complaint about lack of clear directions which caused a non stop struggle. That would be more accurate
@@xSkittlesxNewbx yup, sign of a good case is being intuitive to work in. This is definitely not
How would that work though? You can’t screw through the radiator into a stand-off? The plastic spacer I used in the end of the video was from Bequiet cooler mounting, not the from the case.
They could've made the case way more stable by having the PSU go in the base at the bottom
That case somehow looks like a skeletal bird who has to pee quite urgently. And for all its faults, I think it looks rather neat.
The radiator doesn't need stand offs if you're running it in a pull configuration. There's always ambient air around, and the fans will be pulling the heat off the fins, and launching it into the abyss if there is room on the other side of the radiator or not
This is an impressive level of innovation they managed to choke off the airflow even on an open air case! :P This case is sort of interesting, but they really need to add in some ventilation holes behind the rad or include standoffs and come up with a way to space out the feet for better stability or add in some T shaped and angled reinforcement on the feet and back plate for better rigidity or just make the back plate and feet 2-3 times thicker.
i have the thermaltake wall mountable "case" i love it and see no reason to ever upgrade. especially with cards getting so big. having an open air case gives al lteh room. the dust is meh, but not as bad as i was expecting. also wll mounting the pc is soooo nice. frees up room, and keeps teh heat away from you.
Gonna be a child for a second and say. The one thing I got out of this video is Dawid doesn't know how to screw!
Either the standoffs we're for the cooler, or the entire center panel acted as a heatsink 😂.
Also, if you could somehow weld/glue some rods to connect the top to the base, you could reduce the wobble and it would look pretty cool!
maybe both🤣
This case is only for use in dust free environments. Imagine having a cat or dog. You would be using air canister to blow dust off every couple of days.
4:20 word has it inside those bags of screws were even more bags of screws. dawid is currently recovering from surgery in hospital after being crushed by 30000lbs of tiny bags of screws. thoughts & prayers.
These cutaways to a dramatic scene always crack me up. Definitely the highlights of the videos for me! 🤣
I love the GTX30 series it is truly a great addition to NVIDIA’s lineup
Aside from the wobbly stand and having to install stand-offs for the AIO, the case looks pretty cool
Looks like a cyber head
Looks absolutely awful if you ask me. Like a bunch of random parts in random places with some rgb in the middle. 2/10.
@@gundalfthelost1624 yea, it has no substance to it
That’s fair! I think I prefer that Tiki head case from AliExpress. 😅
I feel like these types of cases are made by some one in a CAD software either for a school project or part of some internship type thing and never meant to be made, but someone decided otherwise and fired up their laser cutter.
12:20 - Might need to keep an eye on Neko around that case. That wobbling is WAY too tempting for him...
Dawid... I don't think you were supposed to mount the radiator on those standoffs because I feel
that is just adding propaganda back onto the "100% stable and not a health risk at all" chassis
top quality content as always
Top quality comment 😂
It might be that the radiator fans blew the air trough the radiator, but the pressure pushed the air backwards trough the fans and into the main airflow of the case. This generally happens when fans are blocked
It's a good example of why some cases that people think have no ventilation, actually have far more than they think. Even pushed up against a flat service airflow is happening at a surprising rate, so a thinnish gap going all the way across the edge can be surprising - as long as the rest of the case is designed well enough to take it into account.
You probably needed to put standoffs on the AIO but maybe putting the fans in a "one in, one out" configuration would've made it slightly better?
Stupid cases, be they criminal or computer. are always interesting content in videos.. :)
Whch one is this though? 😁
@@shannonrhoads7099 Why not both?😆
Could always have mounted the fans on the radiator as exhaust that way instead of pushing air through them into a tiny gap it would pull the hot air away from the radiator into an open space.
There is nothing I don't hate about this case except that I was able to watch Dawid build it.
If the solid AIO mount bothers you, you COULD always just grab a hole saw from your local tool store....... there's enough space on the Motherboard side to pull air that way, and it [mostly] fixes the problem.
That is a great idea, but I would have the fans pulling through the Rad so you are drawing cool air behind the Mobo & exhausting away on the Rad side
He could use motherboard standoffs when mounting the radiator…
…and he did later in video.
It’s kinda common sense
@Slywerk it doesn't matter which way the fans are mounted to the Rad,
Different case designs have space limitations so sometimes you need the fans to mount infront or behind the Rad as either Push or Pull
@Slywerk Yes Dawid admits he does do a lot of dumb stuff in his videos, but it is Sooooo Funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
David I love every video you make and how goofy it becomes. As you love to buy dumb tech stuff can you buy the Cubeor Kanto case as it is one of the most unique cases I've seen. Thanks
The fact is that most watercooling radiators are mounted the wrong way, so they almost have no air passing through them. If it was mounted horizontally/flat the natural tendancy of hot air to go up would increase cooling properties a lot.
Hey @Dawid I'd love to see you make a video showing "What prebuilt computers SHOULD be like", where you take OEM's to "school" and show them how it's done. Good price/performance, fair/reasonable profit margin, good IO, good ventilation, no over-the-top RGB, etc. Perhaps even show how a de-bloated OS would look like.
And then maybe as a second video, "What manufacturers apparently THINK prebuilt computers should be like", where you build a computer like a brain-dead OEM, showing all of the common OEM-like mistakes.
A third video might even be able to show what kind of performance gains you can expect by just avoiding building a computer like an OEM would, even with the same parts. "Computer performance comparison: DIY/Custom vs OEM"
If somehow you're able to then partner with an OEM or manufacturer to launch a series of prebuilts that actually use your tips and tricks, that would just be icing on the cake as it were. Cheers. :)
It looks like the “glass installation” doesn’t leave enough room for a tower cooler so it’s AIO or nothing!
Just put a tower fan next the PC and all will be well 😂
According to the product page, there is 80mm of clearance for CPU cooling, and even though they recommend to use an AIO, it still leaves enough room for most top down air coolers, so that alternative should still be possible.
@@alensyhn4850 The most standard towers are about 157mm+ in height so no towers. (Cooler Master 212: the gold standard). It's only usable for box coolers and AIOs.
@@iancurrie8844 which is why I mentioned "top-down", not "towers" :)
For instance, a Cryorig C1 is 74mm tall, a Noctua NH-L12s 72mm, and both would perform pretty well in this situation (cooling a Ryzen 3700x in an open air design). Smaller designs are also available, and they're commonly used in SFF builds, though they might lead to compromise in power / thermals.
Anyway, I stand by my point : air cooling in this case should be possible.
@@alensyhn4850 Yes indeed. Let's meet in the middle and say that of the really effective cooling methods: AIO is the only viable option. The truly effective towers are a NO_GO.
The reason it's still cool enough is cuz the Radiator is touching a hunk of metal in a semi-open case so the fans are still cooling the rad and the case is like a huge heatsink keeping it cool cuz of the open air.
It still would have been smarter to put standoffs in for the radiator though.
Back in the day airflow was a thing, i guess i can throw my clean no rainbow rgb black cooler master case away and just mount everything on a IKEA desklamp to have some sick lights in it🤣👌 great video, keep it up 👌
8:45 it supports all GTX 30 series cards? How many GTX 30 series cards even exist? I thought 30 series was RTX only
What about pushing the radiator through the hole rather than the pump head. Also, push config on the radiator. Would that make any difference? It should have enough air as it’s an open case? Just my 2 cents worth
"Open the box"
10/10 instructions, I'm surprised the instructions weren't taped to the outside so you could properly follow the instructions
Can't get it together? Do what I do. Call the grand kids.
10:05 this design is truly amazing, I would love something like this BUT as a closed case design with black tempered glass, not sure how they are gonna make it work but it has a lot of potential
It looks like you can put the radiator through the slot above it from the front side, and then use the first system you wanted to use, instead of the smaller one.
The RGB in the acrylic actually looked pretty sweet.
But with just a little more thought that case would be amazing, add a cut-out for the radiator, plus if they break up the stand design to use those supports the rest of the panels use to separate them and make it space out for rigidity it would also have the added advantage of allowing it to be really flat packed and sent in a really compact box, cutting down transportation costs.
My guess is the partial digestion feature of the box is a new attempt at "easy open packaging". Probably targeted at the older generation
So just a quick note. The radiator could be mounted with standoffs, giving the air a place to actually, ya know, go.
Gotta watch the whole video before you comment.
@@--_DJ_-- possibly, I commented while I was watching, it just struck me as the sensible thing to do in that situation and I couldn't imagine him not thinking of it too.
@@SteveBBR We all do it, it's just funny when you read them.
I think he was just following the instructions which showed it plastered to the back of the case.
These videos are just great. I love the cheap PC callout videos
I think the radiator is dumping heat directly into the case, considering the thermal mass that might be enough.
5:52 well you could try it the other way. Dissassemble those fans from the radiator and then push the radiator through the cutout from the motherboard side.
That big AIO the top part comes off. It is basically decoration. I know because I used one of those for a mini ITX build and I ended up having to just ditch it because it was too big.
6:59 it probably would’ve made more sense to have them push in this configuration youre not pulling any air through it
I can't decide what would happen faster with this case: my cats knocking it over, or something dying from cat hair since it's all open.
Reminds me of a self-assembly model of a dinosaur skeleton I got from a museum when I was a kid. Looks about equally robust, too.
in my opinion that is a really unique case and the only downside I don't like is the unstable legs but with a few modifications of the structure its possible to make some crazy build. 6/10 on the rating for me.
And after BeQuiet saw the abuse of their AIO, they asked for all of them back in order to save them from more abuse LoL. I just don't see how long term that's gonna work if there's no air flow from both sides. Thanks for saving us from yet another bad Amazon case.
the wobble seems to be mainly caused by the bottom not being perfectly flag, so like adding some rubber feet to it or something might fix the wobble, and then this would actually would be a great case.
A nut or two for the radiator mount holes (and screws to accommodate) might be all the case needs.
I am simple man. I see Dawid. I click Dawid. I watch Dawid. I press like on Dawid. I am simple man.
Love the Commentary on your videos! Keep it up!
I finally have something interesting to watch while eating, thanks for the video!
About the screws, I was going to say I would just use the tight screws, they probably make their own threads as they go in.
This is what you get when you describe an AT-ST Walker from Empire Strikes Back to a blind PC case designer.
@3:05
"just as smooth as a freshly shaved bal.."
My mind - "ballsack"
Reality - "...bald head"
I think there were enough tiny gaps around the radiator for some air to squeeze through. A cool experiment would be to seal the entire perimeter of the radiator with silicone to stop any air flow
Easier way to get better cooling with that AIO would have been to play on a winter map.
Clever
that thing is the Ultimate Airflow case, except the Radiator mounting method xD
lol i live in Vegas and dust gets absolutely everywhere indoors regardless if you want it to or not. no way i could do an open air unit like this.
Recently discovered your channel. All of your videos are great to watch.
wow, that thing is done as soon as your cat jumps on the desk and rubs against it too hard. holy crap that wobble is terrifying!
I love that you read those nonsensical instructions as normally as possible.
Fans were blowing air into the radiator and air just escaped any way it could, through some gaps, blowback, that also provided a bit of cooling. Without fans it would overheat eventually I think.
I love all of theses videos, and the rewatchability is so amazing! Thanks Dawid!
4:$0 Because of the threading being powder coated over. You have to break the "paint" coating that had filled the holes for the screws. You see this often on car parts and such. Careful doing so though has it can cause the screws//bolts to cross thread easily.
I have to say, Dawid, that intro was flawless. Straight to the point, tells us all we need to know.
And what a case! Surprisingly good quality components, with surprisingly good performance. Just need to fix that wobble. Lol
While watching this video and seeing Dawid struggle with the case instructions I had this thought - people do give crap to IKEA about their furniture quality, that's fair, but where they do excel is their dumb-proof instructions - without using a single word they make them really understandable.
That is very true! IKEA is a way better at making instruction manuals.
I think the radiator needed something between the case and itself because the instructions show some kind of spacer or stand off
Dawid, you're right about the radiator, looking at the Amazon reviews, people were saying they had to go to the hardware store to buy standoffs for their AIO rad.
After watching this video, I am sold for this case. This is the case that I have always wanted but never knew it existed!
I have had this case for almost 13 months now (just over a year) I havent suffered any problems yet. I Have an Ryzen 7 5900x with a 240mm rad with constant 54-60 c and rtx 3070(before the price drop) that also stays in the high 50's to mid 60's with no other problems and yeah it has a wobble from the top but unless you force this case over it will not fall the foot base is like thick/solid steel and heavy as hell.
@@jessepy6981 how did *you* mount the radiator?
3700X on an Asus prime mobo and a 3060? You just built the first prebuilt PC I bought about a year and a half ago. Still rocking the 3700X in a new build with a 3070ti.
The case is probably made with aluminum which would act as a big heat sink for the radiator that's probably why its temps stayed relatively good
Aaah yes, the ID-10T error. We used to say that the problem was a picnic to fix.
Problem In Chair, Not In Computer
I actually like this case! At least the concept. It's original, without being too over the top.
Other than the questionable radiator airflow, and the wobbly base, this isn’t too bad. Definitely LOOKS really nice!
I’ve been rewatching all your old videos and they’re just as hilarious a second time!
What's funny to me is how the GPU extends even further that the glass and could have been easily solved by including a riser cable and turning it sideways
I _just_ put this case on a wishlist a few days ago because I thought it looked pretty sweet. I wouldn't water cool it though, I was thinking air cooler. But I can't find info anywhere (I've posted a question on the Amazon listing) about what cooler height it can take.
The wobbling doesn't really bother me, I don't live in an environment (no kids or jumping animals) where that would be a problem.
Wow. I was seriously looking at this case for an open loop
I could be ok with having to mod to get a better radiator airflow solution. But, damn, that wobble! That's a no deal for sure
Really cool looking case. Really impractical design.
At 6:29 one can clearly see three standoffs with one probably being covered by that metal plate. But, it wouldn't be Dawid if he would have used the standoffs in the first place :)
That TUF RTX 3060 has been through a lot of systems. I'm curious what will happen to it when you finally find the case that will choke it. Can't you take and angle grinder or what ever it's called to make some perforations to the case?
That case lowkey looking like the msi prebuilt you killed
Crossed with the aliexpress uwu prebuilt system that came in like 2 pieces
I've got an open air Thermaltake P3. Just get one of those if you want an open air rig.
I mean, it looks kinda cool but considering how much money they are asking for that thing I would have expected it to be a bit better thought out for things like the Rad mount and the overall stability. That seemingly rather thin stand for that case seems like something that might be prone to material fatique from stress after a while.
i do think the concept of that case is kinda neat, needs some more engineering tho. but it may be a good candidate to do some case modding with
1:35 the difusion looks like its going to be terrible
Putting the rad fans on exhaust (flip them) would certainly have helped thermals as well
Regarding coolant temperature rising I've noticed in my systems that it was only +6 to 8 degrees no more
I think that doing a push/pull would work even better since it would allow for recirculation of (some) air
The only thing I didn't like was the wobbliness, I can imagine it moving like crazy while I'm typing or doing something on the desk.
If you have HDDs in that case the wobble could kill your hard drives if you game too hard. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff OMG the rattling sound would be louder than the fans.
What if you set some thin thermal pads between the radiator and case?