Why Floyd Mayweather is NOT the BEST EVER: The TBE Deception part 1 [MINI DOCUMENTARY]
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Floyd Mayweather: TBE?
Floyd "Money" Mayweather [50-0, 27 KOs] claimed that he is TBE, short for The Best Ever. “He [Muhammad Ali] called himself The Greatest and I call myself TBE [The Best Ever]. I’m pretty sure I’ll get criticized for what I said, but I couldn’t care less. I couldn’t care less about the backlash."
Mayweather has won world titles in 5 different weight classes. Winning 26 out of 26 world title fights. The likes of Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton, Canelo Alvarez, Diego Corrales and Manny Pacquiao to name but a few.
After beating Oscar de la Hoya "Money May" became the Pay Per View king holding the record for PPV buys of all time. During 2005-2017 Mayweather was involved in many big events selling a total of 28,867,000 PPV buys.
Floyd Mayweather v Canelo Álvarez - 2.2 million PPV buys
Oscar de la Hoya v Floyd Mayweather - 2.4 million PPV buys
Floyd Mayweather v Manny Pacquiao - 4.6 million PPV buys
Floyd Mayweather v Conor McGregor - 6.7 million PPV buys
Source: bit.ly/31QBmrp
That said Floyd Mayweather is criticized for not taking all comers. He fought Arturo Gatti in June of 2005 at 140 lbs. Although Mayweather said he fought the best he failed to fight 140 lbs' best fighters at the time: Kostya Tszyu and Miguel Cotto
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Just like Lebron James....when ever you proclaim yourself the best ever, it's a good indication that you're not. Best ever is something other people bestow upon you.
Ali called himself the greatest, and people say he is. Mike Tyson said the same thing, and people also put him as their number one.
@@izukumidoriya1766 MJ never did that’s why he’s the true goat of all sports
@@izukumidoriya1766 In Ali's case it was a performance put on for entertainment. His self praise was really extreme and a load of the time, comedic. Don't get me wrong, he was very confident, but the way he expressed it was really exaggerated. He said himself that he never believed that he was the greatest. In Tyson's case it was a way of hyping himself up. He didn't believe it. Mayweather is serious when he says he's the best ever. He maintains that opinions even today.
@@xx622 no mj is not the goat of all sports. Ali is. And he's not even the goat in his own sport so there's that.
@@xx622 If there's one GOAT of all sports that's the only one Lionel Messi
There’s a 50 cent interview were he stated that Floyd cared to much about what his opponent was making and he never wanted to give another great fighter the opportunity to get a good payday .
Thus his rich boy pampered ass and the known slimey side of this sport finally ruined it.
@@k-dogg9086 yup
dogs wanna eat of whos table
That’s why he avoided many big name fighters until they left their prime
@@Jaydubb1031 and also doing up and down catchweight fights
I'm not a fan of Floyd, but Don't get me wrong tho I give him credit that he's a Smart businessman and an exceptional boxer with talent skills especially in defense, slick movement, accurate combinations, Hit and Don't get hit tactics as well as beating big Hall of Famers and 24 world champions but He never actually fought the best of the best in his weight classes, tbh I wouldn't necessarily say it's Cherry picking its just He don't like taking High Risks. He even said and stated to that he chooses certain opponents to fight for an opportunity only to get a good pay, he chooses that over Legacy.
The funniest thing tho about Floyd waiting till fighters past their prime is that Some of the few fighters that he fought Hes actually older then them but for Canelo, He was only 23 when Floyd fought him and Floyd was 36. I agree to that He ducked other fighters like Paul Williams, Winky Wright, and Antonio Margarito
All Mayweather did was run and dodge punches. He knew who to fight and when to fight them. Did he wow us...hell no.
Im sure he cares
@@sirrparker47 he doesn’t care he just did it to get rich and that’s why I along with many others have no/very little respect for may weather
Watch pretty boy Floyd highlights from the early 2000’s he stop hall of famers like Diego Corrals and Ricky Hatton who were undefeated before fighting Mayweather
@@FredDurst1 he cares lol he almost cried when no one wanted to take pics with him…. He cared more about money then legacy ..which is fine if you dint care but he does care .
@@FredDurst1 ruclips.net/video/lY2aaUg_ttg/видео.html&ab_channel=GistArena i think so yeah lol
I agree Floyd's definitelty one of the greatest but TBE? nope the man has never even been undisputed champion and I doubt he would even wanna take that risk to be one lol he's very overprotective for his 0
Didn't Mayweather say that he was the best because he made the most money taking least punishment. If that's the standard then he's right, it's just that almost no one besides him has that standard.
Valid point only if he did it against the best available opposition possible.
Floyd didn't do that. Just his short stay at 140 lbs. was proof of that. And Ring Side hasn't even gone Floyd's career at 147 lbs yet
@@onedone7988 Yeah I completely agree. My point is there's no reason to argue his goat claim this way because he has this approach. If he said I'm the best because I never lost and I'm the ultimate boxer we could say hold on now why not Rocky Marciano then and weren't you ducking people left right and centre. But he's not saying that. Mayweather has no love or passion for boxing, it's about making money and staying healthy and at that he is the goat.
If you want to argue with his claim you have to argue that being a great fighter is what makes you great and making money and staying healthy is what makes you a smart business man.
@@sakketin literally said he not in this business to prove to the boxing fans who the best is literal mayweather quote in his prime
looooooool
I can also change the goal poast and say that Manny is the best ever because he went up the most divisions. Or Klitschko is the best ever because he lasted longer as a heavyweight champ. Or Ali is the best ever because of the success he had OUTSIDE of the ring.
Floyd is a great fighter overall, but isn't tbe. I have at least 15 fighters greater than him all time.
Want to name them?
@@a.chavez5808 Greb, Armstrong, SRR, Duran, Ali, Pep, Fitzsimmons, Ezzard Charles, Jofre, Harada, McGovern, Barney Ross, Benny Leonard, just to name a few
@@TheFearUnlimited I got Chávez over him…Floyd isn’t even top 20 lol
@@DannyCosmos Ye tho i think 30-40 is reasonable for him
@@TheFearUnlimitedOnce he said Sugar Ray Robinson, I already knew this list was some bullshit
The illegal tactics he uses in every fight should have him disqualified within a few rounds.
He elbow smashed all the time
Pig..weren't his opponents the ones who were head butting him in fights, low blood and getting caught for steroids?
@@DannyCosmos When did he elbow smash? F**l, out here lying..You won't talk about the low blows, head butt's and steroid use of his opponents..
@@nananyantakyi1549 RUclips it…
floyd actually "retired" when coto was undefeated and when asked why not fight him, he said cotto was not worthy. i remember that like yesterday. i wonder if someone can find it. floyd actually announced he was retired
Yeah when Berto and Cotto were undefeated and Pacquiao was on a tear he took a 2 and half year layoff for some odd reason
@@OldChanCharlie And Moseley was still around
And Margarito
And Paul Williams
And Winky Wright who he just walked away from @charlie And Moseley
@@OldChanCharlienot odd. He had severe hand issues. It’s like having bad hamstrings.
@@eyeballwarrior3745do u understand how boxing works? Paul Williams was a nobody up and coming. He never had a chance to fight Shane, because Floyd was a nobody. He fought Shane when he became some body and everyone started riding Floyd’s wave.
Floyd was a great fighter, absolutely top draw but the GOAT? Not a chance. Problem is most of his fan club don’t know the history of boxing & are not willing to dig into it to have a broader perspective. What can you do. It’s an argument you’ll never win.
Great reply. There exists an entire pantheon of nasty lethal bastards who would school Mayweather. Chief amongst being Ray Robinson
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Good job . Tired of Floyd triyng to force himself has TBE . TBE is recognition that his given by the public and by his peers.
@@firefx99 the worship of Floyd is worse. The current pathetic state of boxing is due to the cherry picking blue print that Floyd ruined the sport with. As a real fan and not a casual, I see the slow death of the sport that I have followed for over 30 years ever since I was a kid.
@@firefx99 Well a lot of guys are trying to be like Floyd theres a reason Crawford vs Spence hasn't happened yet and probably never will
Floyd may be the smartest boxer ever as far as career choices and promotion and what not. as far as the "actual" best boxer ever, he's very far from the top.
@@firefx99 Floyd had all the skills to beat all those fighters he ducked , I favored Floyd in a lot of those fights but did he fight them ? No he picked the best paydays for himself . He even said it “ legacy doesn’t pay bills” is he wrong ? No . But he’s not TBE , hell no .
@@firefx99 sugar ray robinson is better and more prolific imo
@@firefx99 Floyd definitely has a case as the best ever. He has perfected the sweet science of the sport like no other, best defense ever and one of the smartest boxers ever. I have him 3rd after Sugar Ray Robinson and Hagler, imo they are more complete. Floyd didn't have bad power, but it wasn't great. He wasn't a great inside fighter either. Robinson and Hagler in their primes had pretty much no weaknesses
@@godfather53 If he perfected boxing then he’s the best boxing to ever live, you literally just stated that. So what’s the conversation here?
@@micahcotlong720 I didn’t say he perfected boxing. Mentioned that he perfected the sweet science of the sport, meaning the fundamentals/technical side of boxing. He wasn’t as complete though as Sugar Ray Robinson and Hagler though imo. Floyd wasn’t a great inside fighter and didn’t have great power. Robinson and Hagler had in their primes no weaknesses, they’re more complete and why I rank them best wise above Floyd
Floyd Mayweather ain't the best....he wasn't undisputed in his prime and didn't fight the best in the division and get all the belts to be undisputed.......so he's a good fighter not the TBE of all time.....he ducked fights from other division
"not the the best ever of all time" lmao
@@firefx99 everyone I could mention from the past has beaten more hall of famers and more all time greats, as well as having fought more and with better records overall.
@@firefx99 note "best of his era" isn't TBE kiddo. His era of uncontested, weak champions? They didn't fight enough, and Floyd ducked several fighters as well, tarnishing his name in my opinion. And he ducked absolute clowns! Again, he lost 8 fights in the 134 he had. Ali has him beat there. Where are the fighters that Floyd beat ranked at, as for ATG? Not out of ATG of current or in this era, I mean of all time? Robinson is still top of the list, and had a winning streak of 90 wins before he got the title.
@@firefx99 how many fights have these ATG had then ass clown? Floyd is great, one of the best even. But really the best of this era is not saying much. Name what he accomplished exactly that no one else has?
Floyd beat 2 undisputed champions back to back baldomir and Zab Judah
Baldomir beat Judah for all the belts
But then don king came into play with his corruption and somehow Zab still had the IBF after loosing the fight meaning Baldomir had the WBA & WBC
and this was the 3 belt era still btw FYI (WBA,WBC,IBF)
So Floyd fights Zab Judah next beats him for the IBF then beats baldomir Straight after that meaning Floyd is undisputed champion in that division (147) and the lineal champion in fact ..
But Floyd didn’t receive all the belts
So don’t lie
Floyd was the Only legit champion at welterweight at the time the lineage has a big Importance especially when he was robbed of all 3 belts so yes he was undisputed
"To be the best you gotta beat the best."
23+world champions are not the best, according to your logic..Clown
He did lol.
@@dwil204 LOL You wish he did. He's a B+ Fighter at best. Never fought a fighter in his prime in his entire career. He ducked Amir Khan!!! 🤣
@@PARZ90s Amir khan 😂😂😂😂. Yea ok lol.
@ watch this. Tell me the year he was suppose to fight Khan. Give me the year he should have fought him. 👀👀👀. Be careful I’m good at this shit lol.
There are just so many other fighters before him and now who make him look plain. Ali, Tyson, RJjr., Duran,Pac man, Forman, Holmes, Hearn, Hagler,Hollyfield etc.Floyd is his biggest fan and a bunch of hype.
Don't forget Sugar Ray Robinson
Chavez but I guess you discriminate
One of the best.
Y’all buggin this is ridiculous video
Duran with his 16 Ls. Your comparing his skills to heavyweights? Thats laughable. And Hearns and Hagler are fair they both phenomenal.
Floyd is not 50-0, he’s not the goat. He’s good but not the best not even close. Just by his pick of opponents @ the times that he fought them really disqualifies him from being the best.
No fam he’s good cuz he cheats. And idk what you on about his opponents being low tiered fighters. Canelo Alvarez, best defensive boxer I know, and most of his opponents being power punchers who’ve guaranteed fallen into mayweather’s robbery trap. And Fights he’s definitely lost were up against Pac man Pacquiao. Mayweather even stated Pacquiao was the best fighter he ever fought. His ego just cockblocks all the scams he has pulled off.
Sorry didn’t mean to imply he fights low tier boxers I meant to say he has fought high tier fighters but he only fought them when they were out their prime. He never fought fighters when they were in their prime. He picks his opponents, he has judges paid off, he never fights outside his “backyard” any fighter that wants to fight him has to come to his weight which can have consequences when it comes to how well the fighter has to adjust. he picks his opponents the ones with injuries, or fighters coming off injuries. Either way his opponents are not @ 100 percent like he was all those fights. Knowing all that I can see why he’s 50-0. He’s not the goat for those reasons and he’s not undisputed either.
@@RingSideStories all those fighters paqiuo fought were in their prime. They were @ their best. Floyd had some of the same opponents as paqiuo but they were all out their prime, had injuries, etc. that’s how he maintained that 50-0 record.
@@Rvainlefty De La Hoya and Maidana beat Floyd too.
Whether you like Floyd or not (and personally I've always loathed his behaviour outside of the ring) there's no doubt he's a virtuoso between the ropes. Not TBE but certainly one of the best of his generation P4P and an all-time great.
I've had this conversation more times then I want too and what I have found is that when you talk to older fans that watched boxing prior to the Mayweather era you tend to agree on the criticisms of Mayweathers career and its lack of substance, when you talk to fans who came into boxing on the Mayweather train they are defensive and argue for him not only to be great but the Greatest of all time. So the ranking of Floyd is almost always based on frame of reference. I mean even during Floyds era he was not the best, my pick for the best of that era is Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao, and prior to that Roy Jones Jr.
People who know the sport and the greatest fighters of all time and compare em to Floyd, Floyd don't have a chance all these gen z babies just know Floyd, pacman, tyson, and Ali they don't know about tank Dempsey rocky Marciano sugar Ray Robinson sugar Ray Leonard Roberto Duran etc etc etc Floyd doesn't come close to these LEGENDS he's all hype
@@yourdad1601 did u just say Floyd is all hype?
@@yourdad1601 how mayweather dont come close when mayweather was the longest reigning champion then it was joe louis
@@deshawnstewart460 actually vlad klitschko holds that distinction .... me personally though i prefer joe louis as greatest heavyweight ever or tied with ali/lewis hard to commit when they areall great
@@Fathervinyard joe lewis and jack johnson is my favorite heavyweights
Castillo beat him he lucked out on that fight
Yep Castillo beat him first time round
Same with Maidana
Mayweather beat Castillo with 1 hand I really use to think Castillo won but you got to watch the fight multiple times for me I watch it 3 times
No he did not. The rematch exposed Castillo and there was no Doubt about that.
Watch it again with the biased turned off
Y’all haters of the highest degree he beat most champions with highest landing percentage and lowest opponent landing percentage
Floyd ran off into retirement and passed up on his 2nd Oscar payday to avoid Cotto. After he beat Hatton and Cotto beat Shane, that was the fight they were expecting once Floyd vs Oscar II was out of the way. You could tell in the interviews that he had no intention of fighting that man. Tried to use the fact that Cotto lives too far away. 😂
Floyd isn't even in my top 50
You sound goofy as hell
I absolutely love this documentary! Beautiful job!
Deontay Wilder is a product of Mayweather's blueprint. Same adviser. Nuff said
Difference is: Floyd was a legit boxing champion
Str8 up......Mayweathers career was a success and since then Haymon has tried to replicate it with good/decent fighters and it doesn't work...... You need real skills to play that game and stay relevent/interesting.
legit ?? he is never ever try to unify titles,just pick soft fights.
@@Voibor That's one opinion...... A fairly popular one at that......but the names on his resume are exemplary even if he fought them at seemingly favourable times and his skill and talent have never been in question.
@Jeh Dee He was the biggest promoter when he had Mayweather ruling the sport.......
But how is that possible now, when the 2 biggest draws in boxing are with Matchroom or fight exclusively on Dazn who Hearn also has a hand in?........make that make sense!.........who is the biggest draw with Haymon/PBC now? Wilder probably?......and his sales are less than great..... his marquee value would have dropped even less now he's without a title that was bitchslapped out of him..... and the evident psychological damage that he's been showing since. Haymon wants to start his new exclusive boxing club like the UFC only with boxing where you have to be signed up to him to compete and he can then force them when, where and who to fight. Dana wants to do the same thing called Zuffa Boxing.
@Jeh Dee Where was I schooled and my arguement debunked?......please tell me.......You cant school someone by just telling them they've been schooled.... you need to form a strong factually based arguement that refutes my claim.......you havent....and I certainly won't be beaten by your intellect alone.
Did you ever even go to school by the way?
Ducked Baldomir? He fought Baldomir next and destroyed him. This video has some gaps, bruh.
Baldomir was a bum. He got his title by upsetting Zab who became a stepping stone for many.
He isn't making any sense
Please see the short clip when Margarito went to him and directly challange him for a fight.. and observe mayweather facial expresion. He was scared and nervous. That is NOT what TBE should have reacted. 🐤💩🐥👈
He ran tf up outta there so fast
Yep, I agree Ouattara.
FLOY: Catch them Green, or fight them old... I always say this to his cheerleaders.
You and I both know Floyd was pouncing on Gatti calling him ‘C’ Level and a paper champ because he was known for his trash talk bravado. I think Floyd paid for Gatti’s funeral expenses and paid his respects after the fact. There’s no need to continue to trash talk on someone you’ve already beaten, what’s done is done and that’s how Floyd approached it.
Kostya Tszyu fight definitely should have happened no doubt, there’s no excuses for that one but Floyd did fight Hatton who was undefeated, there was no blueprint on Hatton and he knocked him out, the guy who beat Tszyu. If you’re implying he ducked Tszyu then I don’t get your case, because he should have ducked Hatton then who obviously was a tougher challenge at that time and Floyd did announce retirement after the De La Hoya bout. He could have easily said I’m retired and I’m not fighting Hatton but he did anyway.
Cotto situation was on Bob Arum, Arum wasn’t giving Mayweather the fights he deemed were best for him, and that INCLUDES the Cotto fight at the time. Arum was stopping Floyd from getting the major money fights, as you can recall he was calling out Mosley and Oscar at 147 but he didn’t fight Oscar till they both left Top Rank. Arum said Cotto was too green for Floyd, you gotta do your research on these things man.
Insinuating that he priced himself out on the Winky Wright fight might be fair AT THE TIME, but clearly he did not because Floyd became the biggest PPV star EVER. Arum looked like a fool not getting the 50/50 split for Floyd, let’s be honest with ourselves because this is the truth, Arum held Floyd back. After he left Arum he became a megastar and that’s a fact.
Argument on the Margarito fight is simply he didn’t want to negotiate with Arum, let’s be real Floyd would have beat the brakes off Margarito, and I firmly believe Margarito DID cheat against Cotto and he obviously TRIED against Mosley. To put plaster in your wraps in order to gain the upper hand on someone in a fight where you put your life on the line is disgusting, and definitely showed weakness on Margarito’s behalf by doing that weak shit.
You can try and explain away why Floyd never wound up in the right fights at the right time, but that doesn’t change the facts. Whether he was a ducker or not, his career and record is largely smoke and mirrors. He never once had an exciting fight that public was paying any attention to.
@@collinsmcrae well you can say the same for Pacquiao then and that was the fight people most clamored for. All of Pacquiao’s opposition were largely similar to Floyd’s, and he fought them AFTER Floyd beat them. With the exception of Cotto and Marquez who he fought four times. So who at that time period had the most exciting, timely fights that people wanted then?
Spot on 💯
It's common knowledge Floyd used all the classic tricks, such as,, ducking fights, making them wait, taking on shot fighters, forcing weight and all the other contract wrangling an unscrupulous lawyer would be proud of. Great defensive skill no question but the goat,,, meeerr I think not.
Exactly
Making them wait?? Floyd must be a Mutant then cause I guess he don't age then..
@@TheDslick1 his trash talk was aweful,,,, bring me the bag!
Greatly boring defensive skill. Anybody can run away. Doesn't make you a fighter. It makes you a runner. If you run away from someone you're just scared 😨😳
You forgot Olympic style drug testing because you’re fuckin scared!
Floyd's next opponents,, the Logan brothers,,, 51 and 52 in the bag 💪
@@makhtar6029 lol you were saying
@@NewAgeSlaves as I said, 51 and 52
@@wayneorourke6207 50-2
@@dakprescott12hunnitnfceast54 wouldn't that be funny 🤣🤣👏👏
@@wayneorourke6207 Floyd’s washed, son. Listen to the expert. All he got his running, he’s to old to actually box. Since the fight is only 6 rounds, Floyd gonna have to face-to-face box with Logan. If he chooses not to, Logan will win by decision. You hearin me boy?
Mayweather fan but canelos prime will kills mayweathers prime
We don't care about who makes the most money in boxing we just care about who is the best fighter and Floyd is not the best a lot of people really don't know boxing they just know the show they don't follow boxers from the beginning of their careers it's after they hear about the hype then they take interest 😒
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Been telling folks, for years; that he is no GOAT. All of his fights were fixed for him to win. But tell this to his die hard fans, and they just about have an aneurism.
Already liked cause I know I'm getting quity content
Floyd has the greatest record and career choices.
The greatest boxer ever was the cus-trained Tyson.
The boxer who fought and beat the most dangerous fighters ever was ali.
Ok the greatest record is debatable but yes he’s has a GREAT record.
Lol..Tyson? The guy who only beat trash cans and was loosing to bums? Mention 3 people Tyson beat
@@JonP1245 He has the greatest record..5 weight classes, 15x world champion, beat 23+world champions, 49-0
I noticed everybody uses this argument but fails to consider the fact that floyd was universally agreed to have been out of his prime past 2001. You're making great points, I'll give you that, but since there's no sympathy for the Victor, no one mentions the fact that floyd wasn't in his prime while he was fighting "everyone out of their prime". Floyd (OUT OF HIS PRIME) STILL dismantled everybody he came across. Why don't yall talk about that????
Floyd lost to Pacman. There's a fantastic video that takes the entire fight, and runs back every punch in super slow Mo and tallies every blow. Boxrec failed to count I believe over 60 of Pacman hits, yet over counted Floyd's by a wide margin. 0 doubt, Manny won that fight. That same video also shows every broadcast of the fight around the world, and as the fight was finishing, every country was stating how Floyd lost, and Pacman won. Everyone was shocked, and laughing "which fight were the judges watching"? Its clear as day the judges screwed that one up big time.
Where was this video? Sounds fascinating
Every fighter ducked fights. Floyd was older than most the fighters he fought. And he still fought everyone. May not be when you wanted but he fought everyone. People keep saying pacquiao is a better fighter... Floyd beat him twice. I think if floyd wasn't so cocky and people liked his personality, people would love to say he's the best. But people are biased partial to people they like
@Al Marcel Mosley and pac ducked floyd so that's on them
@Al Marcel exactly, pac man came fresh out of being knocked out by jmm
As a Mayweather Fan and a boxing Fan these are 100% facts and for people who can't look at this objectively and can't take the context of what your saying it just proves there biased and are haters. Much respect brother ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
A Mayweather fan with some sense? I like you
I think Floyd is the smartest boxer ever and a technical wizard but it’s hard to say he’s the greatest when he didn’t really test himself for the majority of his career and even avoided some elite competition.
100% facts ruclips.net/video/Na2T9xYVv0g/видео.html
does this make sense ruclips.net/video/Na2T9xYVv0g/видео.html
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Bro love the channel, spitting the facts. Unfortunately a lot of people dont like to hear the truth.
Ey it is what it is
Too many people drunk on Floyd yet NO ONE considers him the best
Nobody cares about May's legacy...
your entire argument for floyd ducking tszyu is that he didnt fight him. it takes two to tango. floyd always call out tszyu and tszyu never tried to fight floyd. but of course idiots in the comments are going to eat this video up
Here's the issue with boxing fans who don't' fully grasped the fact that boxing is also very political, what you see is not always what you get from both sides not just Floyd. I respect your documentary because it came of as an impartial breakdown but you conveniently left out a few things that nullify your argument. First let's acknowledge that boxing is unfortunately political. You don't know what Bob Arum was thinking at the time. Its not black and white to say oh well Floyd and Cotto were at Top Rank therefore its super easy make the fight now its all up to Floyd... No it was not all up to Floyd it was up to Bob Arum.... Floyd only had control after he left Top Rank and even then it was only if the other party were willing to fight. Floyd called out De la hoya, Mosley, Kotsa Tzu and they all said no except De La hoya later down the line. Bob never let Cotto Face Mayweather and it was only after Cotto got out of Top Rank that he was able to make the fights he wanted as well and the mayweather fight was made. Same thing with Manny, Bob kept Manny from fighting Floyd and I believe that Manny wanted Floyd just as bad as Floyd wanted Manny back in 2010 but Arum was always in the way...As soon as Manny left Bob ...BOOM the fight was made. Also you conveniently left out the fact that Floyd fought Carlos Baldomir immediately after he fought Zab who Kenny was critizizing him for and out boxed him handedly ...I find it a little decieving that you did'nt even play the video highlight or mention that he fought him. Kenny then critizied floyd for not fighting hatton and then floyd fought hattan right after de la hoya. Also Gatti was a PPV attraction and that was a road you needed to take to become a PPV star (Remember boxing is political also a prize fighting business where you need to find ways to increase your public profile).... just like what De La Hoya did. Once again i respect the research but I feel that without the context of boxing politics (On both sides as well as promoters) its a misleading argument. For example why isn't the question why did cotto not face Mayweather why is it under the assumption that Floyd was the one who didn't want the fight... none of them had power at the time only Bob Arum did
Haters choose to hates.
TGE Pretty Boy Money Mayweather
Also, and very important tp mention is that Castillo actually beat Meywather but the judges robbed it from Castillo and give it to Floyd. If one watches that fight, it is easy to se that Castillo beat him.
Fraudfloyd, the corrupt judges stole the fight from Castillo but at least Castillo gave him a good ass kicking !
Castillo was a saprring for Julio Cesar Chavez. And also Castillo himself has said that he never really had boxing as his number one passion. He just kind of did it and did not care too much for it. Unlike Mayweather who gave his whole life to boxing and still go bested by Castillo.
Your breaking the fanboys heart by exposing him
Every time the Fraudfloyd fan boys hear the name Castillo and that Fraudfloyd has lost some fights they get butt hurt and start crying with their crying emojis !!
Floyd Mayweather Jr is not TBE never that he lossed 3 times and somehow he undefeated .
He wins all of his fights by lightly tapping his opponents on the fights, clinching whenever someone gets close, and sometimes hitting hard
@@hypnoticskull6342 don't forget the running!! Oh the running....
He didn't lose, tf you talking about clown, no losses on his record,
@@antboi0673 you’re going by record clown 🤣 boxing is corrupt kiddo , if you believe the list then you’re in trouble , watch some of his old fights, like him against Jose Luis Castillo , he didn’t win all his fights dummy.
@@BaawBee And the hugging !
Why people always say fight boxers at this time an time floyd older than all the fighters this dude is talking about hahaha
He also cheated the shit out of Hatton and every other top fighter he faced.
Floyd would've never beat the 4 kings in 80s or 90 greatest Tito or Delahoya in there primes
Looking forward to this one Ringside ;)
You take half of his comments out of context. Floyd talking shit about a fighter before a fight and acknowledging their skill after the fight is a misrepresentation of what actually happens. He’s promoting a fight and then had to remind the media on what they themselves were saying, the opponents were legit champs and fighters. He has done this is whole career until he became the cash king and then he talked about how good his opponents were to pump up the fight.
Floyd is the Lebron James of boxing.
26 championship fights not 27.
Who gives a shit
I personally don’t care for Floyd or rocky Marciano they both fought fighters past there prime
Mayweather fought fighter past their prime, while he stayed in his prime forever right? Id*ot
Floyd is the GOAT when it came to making money...that's it. As far as being the GOAT in boxing, it's a delusion created by him supported by his loyal black fan base. To dispute that fact shows lack of boxing knowledge.
That’s ignorant to say. Floyd has a HUGE Mexican fan base. And how does that show a lack of boxing knowledge?
@@lilsaff21 Floyd's claim to fame is his so called 50 and 0 record....which included his last bout against a non contender from a different sport. It's an insult to the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson and Julio Chavez who had better stats and who fought anyone without the influence of cherry picking. Floyd was a great defensive boxer, but to say he was the GOAT is just plain ludicrous. He made the most money and can claim the most successful, but that doesn't make him the greatest boxer when it comes to wins.
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I agree, the 50-0 is ridiculous. It’s 49 if anything else. But his claim to TBE, will always be in the discussion. Whether we like it or not. So many professionals in the boxing world talk about how great he was. They have much more insight than the fans. So who are we to say he’s not as great as he actually is in their eyes. 🤷🏾♂️ and to say he was a great defensive fighter without acknowledging his overall career actually shows a lack of boxing knowledge.
@@lilsaff21 The argument is about being The Greatest Of All Times not about his personal attributes or accomplishments. There's a big difference. Equally, there are many professionals and past champions who ranked him in the top 5-10, but are adamant in saying he's no where near being number 1. Boxing knowledge is tied in with historical facts supported by recorded stats. It doesn't take a genius to point that out unless you choose to be bias in your thinking.
Lol..Rac*St clown, this prove the only thing you have against him is his race
Floyd Mayweather (🇺🇲) outclassed Carlos Baldomir (🇦🇷) for a consecutive 11 rounds
He beat everyone.Hatton. Pacquiao, Zab, Cotto, ect ect..boxing wise. He is great.You can't deny facts.
He didn't fight Mundine
@@patrickgrant6389 Stop with the nonesense..Mention one fighter in the history of boxing that has fought more World champions and Hall of famers than him, mention!!
i think the problem with you floyd haters. is that the only case you have for floyd not being the best ever is tearing him down to the level of other fighters. you basically compare him to god, because when we compare him to other greats, ray leonard, ali, jones, etc, he more than stacks up. he has a better resume than all of those guys. instead of trying to make a case for ray leonard or ali or manny or jones OVER floyd you instead just tear down floyd because in the back of your mind you know that there is no case to be made for most of those fighters over floyd. the only one i could MAYBE see an argument for is ray leonard. but the rest floyd is easily greater than those guys, and i mean no offense but he just is. he has a better resume than they do and he also is better boxer than those guys so to me i have no idea where the arguement for floyd not being at least top 3.
He is above all as the GROAT !!
Tell these f**ls! 🔥
Lol...50-0. Nobody beat him. Please keep quiet.
Rocky Marciano was also undefeated is he better then Ali??
Lenorad or hagler would have killed him!
Beating 50 sheep and not losing doesn’t mean anything.
@@Jason26k Exactly. But beating 50 sheeps and wolves is something special. He did it.
@Serve & Protect The end justifies the means. He won...he did what needed to be done. Not for you, but for him. Nothing else matters. He got rich while people paid to see him lose. He won them too. Lol
@@michaeltabor9596 Haglar had 3 losses and 2 draws. We will never know who would win between the 2. But as Money would say, he has 5 ways to get the result he wants...an adjusted action to get that result is foreseeable. Want that fight? Pay the money! Lol
Given the boxing environment during their career, I classed HAGLER above FM. If catergorised by achievements, Pacman is well above FM. FM was awesome only within his comfortable division. Only ELITE FIGHTERS like Pacman broke division barriers & conquer the unthinkable. Pacman went from 140lbs to 154lbs & brutalised Margareto who was 20lbs heavier fight night ( 148lbs against 168lbs ). That was insane ???? An ELITE SOLDIER operates in any environment. They do not choose ??
Never undisputed, never fought a champion in ‘their’ prime and optimum weight! Period.
Spadafora, casamayor or Freitas to name but 3
Case closed
Diego Corrales Ricky Hatton and Canelo Alvarez were undefeated when they fought Floyd
Optimum weight was one of the caveats which is truth. Weight draining has a detrimental effect on a fighter. Just like when Floyd chose to pay the penalty for refusing to make the contract weight of 144 lbs against Marquez who was older and jumping up 2 weight classes. Floyd instead fought at 146 lbs and didn’t even bother to make weight and still didn’t knock out and older, smaller Marquez. Canelo should have done the same unprofessional tactic and came in 154 lbs in their fight instead of being a professional and honoring the catch weight contract of 152 lbs. I believe the weight drain had more to do with Canelo’s loss than inexperience.
Alot of fighters before him tarnished their legacy by fighting on to long Ali, Roy Jones, Tyson, sugar ray robinson lost 5 of his last 11 fights. Etc and so on. Mayweather is one of the best, Tbe is subjective however
Great stuff, dude!
i always wanted to see floyd fight paull williams
According2 floyd paul Williams was 2 big even tho both were welters
@@smok3som3b1tch7 Everybody did except team Mayweather. They basically ran Paul Williams out of the division
good news his fight is against paul! logan paul LOL
Lol👍
He ducked ANTONIO MARGARITTO (🇲🇽) SO SAD
Would have beat him anyways
The prime is definitely age bro go back to school. So you out yo prime at 30 31 no your not stop he beat everyone period. An he beat canelo a young bull
You whole argument even make Floyd Mayweather Jr. the best ever.
So basically Floyd is kinda "immortal" who was never out of his prime. Say what you gonna say Floyd is the best ever.
Floyd is older than a lot of the guys u guys say he ducked. I don’t get it. So I could be older than you by a few years and ur old and past your prime but I’m not because I fight defensively and not based on my attributes?
Well look at it like this. Pacquiao is about to fight Errol Spence jr. one of the best p4p fighters rn.
On the other hand we have Floyd the self proclaimed TBE getting in street fights with youtubers.
Lagan hasn’t even won a match 🤣🤣🤣 mayweather=🤡
Mayweather knows how to market hes all about money he give two shits about his legacy. He knows dam well what he's doing and saying
Even Michael Jordan doesn't consider himself the best even though he is most definitely one of the best.
Exactly bro
Floyd never lost after fighting the most champions..He is the best
usain bolt considers himself as the goat and number 1. so is he egoistic or is he j telling the truth like mayweather
Floyds amature career is mad better than his pro career.
This video is spitting nothing but pure facts. Well said Ring Side Stories, I completely agree with you.
Excuses/wrong. Floyd proved his the best, outside the ring actions means nothing
Haters are emotional and irrelevant they cant help it
Muhammad Ali is The Greatest of All Time! Floyd Mayweather couldn't even shine Ali's shoes...
Floyd never thought he was TBE, it was just a great marketing comment to piss everyone off. Everyone fell for Floyd’s trick and made him rich.
But just like other great fighters can do things others can't floyd has abilities and work ethic that others don't.
Floyd is the best. Stop it wit the bull shit 51an0 is still more impressive than an other boxer he the best ever period at 140 147 sorry when you go undefeated aint nothing you can say bro
I’ll give credit for his ok Defense,but by tapping,hugging,and barely getting ko punches in matches then just getting the judges decision to win,is nowhere near the same level as the legends of boxing like Mike Tyson,Muhammad Ali etc.there’s reasons why most boxing fans aren’t the biggest fan of him
Floyd fought a lot of older Champions that were already passed their primes with multiple loses. Not only did Floyd duck fights but he made sure to take the easiest road to the top possible. Somehow Floyd thought fans wouldn’t notice
Floyd is the best prize fighter ever.
😆🤣😂😹 floyd is a beast. You made some points but I can make s podcast against Ali and make some points also. Hardly Every story of a man is perfect
Exactly I try to make this same point
Their hatred is so deep towards Floyd
The double standards he's held at a higher standard than any other fighter
ever
They really expect Floyd to fight who they want, when they want, how they want or he's a pussy & he's ducking them
I can say Ali lost to a fighter with 7 fights
Also, there are at least 3 fights that were given to Mayweather, even though he lost. Jose Luis Castillo 1, Marcos Maidana 1, and Manny Pacquiao.
De La Hoya could have been a draw or even a Floyd loss too.
Most people come to the sport beat people up and get beat up, like other sports boxing should be an art. if you want to call yourself the greatest of all time the you should bring in something that no one else has done what people like kenny wanted the wanted so badly for floyd to loose one thing I've noticed if you can walk on water you haters will say it's because u can't fucking swim, well there you have it
Floyd is TBE at his style because there is absolutely no one who has done what he has done the way he has done
Personally I have Mayweather as the 2nd Greatest Fighter Of All Time. I also have him as The Best Ever cause Mayweather had the best career ever. He fought the best coming off their biggest win or when they had momentum, got hit less than any other fighter which is what boxing is all about, became a mega star, made the most money, & is a 1st ballot Hall Of Famer.
He also robbed Castillo. Castillo beat him.
Lol..Delusional clown , all it takes is for someone to win 3 or 4 rounds against Floyd and you fools will say he won.
@@nananyantakyi1549 Castillo won the first fight and got robbed
To be the best youve gotta beat the best
I can’t give you Miguel Cotto fam. Cotto had the weight advantage of that fight. Hatton retired kostya tszyu so how would Floyd fight him. 🤷🏾♂️
They always say black fighters duck fights. 😂👌🏾
Floyd could’ve fought Tsyzu back in 2004, when he was campaigning in Super Lightweight instead of Corley. He could’ve fought Cotto or Paul Williams instead of Hatton in 2007 when he was at welterweight after he beat De La Hoya and the list goes on.
@@lulusolomon2720 Ricky Hatton was undefeated when he fought Floyd….Floyd earned more money fighting Hatton than Paul Williams made his entire career.
Top Rank was holding Cotto back just like every other boxer they promote ( Andre Ward ….Terrence Crawford) Cotto left top rank just like Floyd did cause Bob Arum is a 🐍
@@brandonbarnes9681 it’s not supposed to be about money, to call yourself the greatest your supposed to test yourself.
@@lulusolomon2720 like I said Ricky Hatton was undefeated he retired Tszyu…How can you say Floyd ducked Tszyu when Floyd beat the man that retired him. Maybe Tszyu didn’t want to fight Floyd?
Floyd fought more champions than anyone y’all just like to hate
@@brandonbarnes9681 I didn’t say Floyd ducked him, I said Floyd didn’t go out of his way to fight the toughest competition available, Tszyu didn’t fight Hatton till 2005 and in 2004 Floyd and Tszyu had free schedules, Floyd calls himself the greatest but did he really prove it?? Most of the Champions he beat could’ve been beat by anyone.
Seeing it broken down like this is good. The fact the he fought broken Gatti instead of Cotto is pretty great point.
2 mins and 25 seconds in my bro and you’ve already earned a sub from this vid alone 😎
Y’all realize someone can make one of these on anybody.
Exactly, he makes stup*d arguments too
Thank you sir for unfolding the blind
Hatton was beat @147 by collazo first before floyd just got robbed
Self proclaimed tbe, incredible boxer though.
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Iron Mike is my favourite 19-22 years old. But tbe or goat no, Marciano 49-0,,, but the real goat is sugar Ray Robinson 200 bouts no loss until his 118th.. I could go on all day 😂😂
That was in the 50s before blacks were really allowed
What i dont get is WHY he keeps having to address his greatness. Yes may..your one of the best ever if not the best. But why do we need to bow daily? No one is hating. I would think at 43 yo, he would be at peace.
He’s definitely not the best wth. You ran from the other great fighter in your era because you thought he was taking PED’s lol. Doesn’t sound like the greatest to me.
Tyson Fury will retire as one of the sports GOAT.
He has beat all put in front of him . Himself and AJ will be both in their prime when they FINALLY meet next year.
He is the #1 business man in boxing. I understand a win is a win don’t get me wrong. But once he realized that PPV loved him and Vegas loved him. It was all marketing from there. You can take a good fighter and promote him to make him look like he stands a chance. But let’s be real here. He refused to go to war. His whole thing was hit and don’t get hit. He waited and waited for many not all but many of the big name fighters to age out of their prime. And then promote the hell out of them to sell tickets and PPV sales.
His defense was amazing I will not take away his technical ability. However it was never really put to the test. And everyone wanted a piece of him. That’s how he was able to pick. Because there was no shortage of fighters who wanted to fight him. He knew which ones to pick and when.
#1 business man. Yeah I’ll say that.
You know when you played tag as a kid ..He was like the dude that stays by the base and never left and never got tagged…and claims he’s the best at tagged… floyd punched hugged and ran a good chunk of his later career
This guy is gonna be the same guy who makes the “Why Michael Jordan ISNT THE BEST” or “Why Tom Brady ISNT THE BEST” videos in the future.
Theres always gonna be someone who does X better then Y. There will always be someone who has more this, then the other person has that. The arguements will never end due to this.
At the end of the day, the people who get all the glory, are the guys who have the records to prove it. Also, part of what makes a GOAT, is the times, and the situations they have been put it. Its about how they transend the sport, and bring it more life, more fans, and more respect.
Put Tom Brady against Joe Namith, Lebron against Jordan, Tiger against Palmer, etc. When its all said & done, the people conisdered the greatest, are the ones who made the average person look and say “Wow, that guy is amazing!” that guy that deserves the GOAT title. Each generation will have their own GOAT, but if there can only be one....records are the only thing that will stand the test of time...
There may be a day when some kid looks back and says “Hey dad, the 1972 Dolphins were the only undefeated team to win it all! That means there the best; RIGHT?”
And the father will chuckle and say “Oh son, when the hell are you ever gonna learn TO CLEAN YOUR GODDAMN ROOM YOU SACK OF SHIT!!!”
Ahhhh.... That’ll be the day.
Saying you depend on “facts”
But absolutely ignore the most important one.
Yeah, and nobody ever looked at Floyd and thought anything like that. Only late career bandwagon jumpers think he’s had this mythic career. Floyd’s had nothing but a bunch of boring ass fights with the wrong people at the wrong times, and everyone who followed his career for a long time knew it. He never had an exciting fight. Sure, he looked slick and his defense was great, but that can be said about a lot of fighter.
Mayweather is a textbook paper all time great, and nothing more.
Collin McRae if u watch boxing and think what floyd does is boring, ur not watching right
Undefeated just means you didn't stick around long enough to get your first loss. Additionally, the term "GOAT" was coined by an imbecile. It implies you will live forever and no one will ever exist in the future that can beat you or that no one has ever existed that can beat you. Its one of the most idiotic phrases ever coined in boxing.
One of the best not the best
Neither one !
TBE is just a sales pitch, Floyd skills was unmatched in his day tho