I really hope you'll keep pushing Tenshinhan as a hero, Masako. This series is just the perfect opportunity instead of getting "What If Tenshinhan Trained Harder?" etc.
Nah, Goku will be like "He cheated! He didn't earn this power! All he did was copy our DNA! That Dr. Gero.... He should have fought to get stronger instead of just programming strength into these... things!"
You know, seeing Trunks and Piccolo in the Time Chamber would actually be pretty productive for both of them. Piccolo may not have Saiyan Zenkai, but since he's actually strongest than Trunks right now, he might be able to keep pace somewhat with any gains made. And Trunks would benefit from some proper training (unlike the original where he just tried to keep up with Vegeta and not really learning all that much otherwise) since I'm sure Piccolo would make sure Trunks doesn't make the same mistake with thinking the SSJ grade 3 bulky form is anything worth persuing and might even help him get up to Full Power SSJ.
Oh yeah you’re right about him not tolerating grade 3 Trunk’s: hey piccolo check this out… KAKKAROTT *roid mode engaged* Piccolo:… DODGE *fires a ki blast that bounces off Trunks* Trunks: hah! I don’t even need to dodge! Piccolo: Doooodge!!! *fires ki blasts everywhere doing nothing until he fires two stronger ones in Trunks eyes blinding him for a second* I could have been charging a special beam cannon and pierced your heart in that moment, that form is useless *scoffs and walks off to meditate* oh and why did you say Goku’s saiyan name? Trunks: I don’t know.. it just.. felt right
I hope Tenshinhan gets some super form of his own. Maybe getting god Ki someday. More Raditz is always good. I can’t wait for the next part of Raditz on Earth. The thought of evil Krillin, facing an Angry, possibly Super Saiyan Raditz would be fun to see
I may not be remembering this correctly but... I thought Tien trained with Kami in this "What if" and Goku trained by himself in the wilderness Does this not mean Goku didn't get to train in the Chamber when he was a kid?
Probably a mistake, yeah. Oh well... at least this one isn't really important, that Goku knows about the room or not wouldn't change Piccolo bringing it up, he'd just need to explain what it does.
I'm pretty sure that when we hit the Buu saga we're gonna get a Majin Goku scenario. Seeing as how even after Cell becomes Perfect and breaks him both mentally and physically. That there will still be all that ego, bitterness and resentment that'll make him easy pickings for Babadi. I mean if he's gone as far as teaming up with Cell in this iteration, would him turning Majin and even more willingly so than Vegeta in canon really be outside the realm of possibility
I'm convinced that if future trunks sticks around it'll be Majin trunks because of how fed up he was getting with goku and vegeta. That or Majin souped up piccolo for the android hunter debacle
Honestly Goku will become Babidi and the new Supreme Wizard and then go on to team up with Moro and absorb Berrus's powers and become the true God of the Multiverse and then Zamasu will have to team up with all the other mortals and become the holy warrior in order to stop Goku and the resulting chaos will destroy Universe 7 and will scar the other Universes forever, then Piccolo will become the new Zalama once Goku wishes to become the new El Grande Padre and kills the original and then Merged Zamasu and Piccolo Sama will team up and along with Zeno, finally be able to destroy Goku but as mentioned before after the battle the Multiverse will never be the same and Zamasu will become the new El Grande Padre.
Goku in this what if is finally coming to grips with the outcome and slowly learning in a way, there will always be a stronger guy out there.. but in this case: "Always be another guy cheating for power." Might straighten him out a little, but not alot.
@@momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 Nothing that a simple wish (no need of Super/Namekian Dragon Balls) could not fix. Just be careful with the wording (ShenLong is either a jackass, or very literal).
This is nice! I wonder if this Goku will make a dumb decision that dooms his timeline like First Super Saiyan Vegeta. Also on the Caulifla Gohan one, I keep having this idea of a Fighting Scholar U6 Gohan who studied fighting styles and Saiyan biology, which would make him a real threat.
I do say that Goku here may have to get a soul purification pass out of self-sacrifice, if he is broken down *that* much by Cell in the next part(s). He may see it as the thing he deserves, and tbh, it may be what he actually deserves.
There is a plot hole here. In canon, the main reason why Cell has Frieza's cells was because he and his father, King Cold, went to Earth to get revenge on Goku. After Frieza is defeated by Goku, Gero's Tracking Device had collected Frieza and King Cold's cell in the creation of Cell. Here, since Goku kills Frieza on Namek and King Cold goes to Earth alone to get avenge his prodigy's death, where did Cell got Frieza's dna if Frieza never came to Earth. Second, since Frieza never came to Earth, Cell only has King Cold's dna.
Correct me if I’m misremembering something, but how could this Goku remember the room of spirit and time from his childhood if he never trained with Kami in this scenario?
With Tien being poised as the head of the Z team, like you said. I hope he will be able to shine later in the series. I always wonder about those "God-like" Tri-clops powers Toriyama added in one day, that he said he lost due to his cloudded soul from training under Shen. Also, Rip 16
I can't wait to see Paranoid Gokus redemption arc. Maybe in Buu we will get Ultmate Tien? Little sad we won't get fusion mechanics though as not sure how it could be incorporated other than Potara
Just a reminder: the plan was to use the time chamber 2 parts ago via ten shenhan (goku wouldn't know about the room of spirit and time in this timeline) before they got distracted tracking down the good doctor. Next to raditz turns good, this is my favorite what if, so I only mean this to help you keep your lore on point. keep up the good work Mr. Masakox. You're a master of your craft
Nappa and Raditz will probably only be able to get to SSJGrade 2, probably 3 or an unlikely 4 in this iteration. But, that will probably be good for them, as they’ll wipe Semi-Perfect Cell off the face of the planet since their not Vegeta or Goku. Even if Cell absorbs 18, he’s probably going to be in a rude awakening once either Trunks or Piccolo are done with the Time Chamber, or maybe even Goku has a change of heart to fight Cell himself when he enters with probably Tien. Either way, Cell is doomed if it’s a 7 vs 1.
I'm not saying Goku wouldn't train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber at this time, but I don't think Goku trained there before in this timeline since he didn't train with Kami.
This is one of my favorite what ifs mainly because of how it treats my favorite Dragon ball character tien shinhan but one thing I don't like about it is it keeps changing it's name
Great series as usual, tho you made a small error, 7:01 you say that Goku remembers the chamber from his youth, that can't be since in this what if he never went to kami as a kid
If trunks and piccolo go in i feel like trunks will get Full power SS. If vegeta gets 16 infinite energy he will be bragging constantly And goku will call them all cheats
you said that goku recalled the time chamber from his youth, now maybe i'm forgetting something but didn't goku get turned down for kamis training, and therefor never encountered the chamber?
Goku getting absorbed by buu later on but being able to see Buus actions from the inside while being helpless to do anything about it sounds like it could set him straight. I think he will end up with ultra ego at some point if beerus doesn’t just delete him lol
Oh no Cell betrays Goku for his own game why am I not surprised. Yeah Goku got no one to blame but himself maybe this will finally open up his eyes here. I'm still wondering on why didn't the Senzu Beans regrow Vegeta's limbs here? Anyways another good part, and looking forward to the next part.
The Cell Games would still happened in this what if timeline except Cell wants to win the Cell Games and prove everyone that he is the best there is and the best around. If he loses the Cell Games, Cell will blow up Earth in the name of achieving complete victory.
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What if King Kai got reincarnated
Correction: he couldn't recall the Timechamber, if You remember he never trained with Kami
i have interesting idea for a what if''s Dr. Gero turn good?
Make cell betrays goku and absorb goku!!?
what if kid buu was released early and turn good instead of fat buu
*Semi-Perfect Cell:* _"As a soon-to-be-broken man once said, 'You're either perfect, or you're not me'..."_
makes sense
Such a great tfs reference
Do you really believe your own hype that much?
Oh it's this guy, haven't seen him in a while.
I really hope you'll keep pushing Tenshinhan as a hero, Masako. This series is just the perfect opportunity instead of getting "What If Tenshinhan Trained Harder?" etc.
And ignored his detractors
I never did like kriillin being “stronger than tienshinhan” despite all logic pointing towards the opposite
@@MasakoX looking forward to Ultimate/Mystic Tenshinhan
Love this as a Tenshinhan fan so much!
Looks like, for the future, Goku should learn his place, *and wait for the others.*
But. But. TESHINHAN BAD.
Goku: You pressed the others button.... You shouldn't have did that
breaks Goku's spine
Teshinhan bad indeed
Goku: This Cell is comprised of 10.78% of Tien Shinhan's dna. These parameters are acceptable
Finally Goku will finally see the CONSEQUENCES of his action, in his face
Unable to fight back
Nah, Goku will be like "He cheated! He didn't earn this power! All he did was copy our DNA! That Dr. Gero.... He should have fought to get stronger instead of just programming strength into these... things!"
...And his back, well I imagine so anyway. xD
@@TheGuyWhoIsSitting Gero shaking his head at salty Goku: "All I see is a petulant manchild throwing a temper tantrum."
Man, Goku is really being the Vegeta stubbornness of this what if
When Vegeta will be the most sensible one by Buu saga
Oh goodie
Majin Goku will be a thing. I
Sooo
Cant wait…
Wow, you managed to make Semi-Perfect Cell threatening. A bipedal wrinkled frog with lips that got owned by pretty much everybody. Now that's neat
Now i understand what the design is
You know, seeing Trunks and Piccolo in the Time Chamber would actually be pretty productive for both of them. Piccolo may not have Saiyan Zenkai, but since he's actually strongest than Trunks right now, he might be able to keep pace somewhat with any gains made. And Trunks would benefit from some proper training (unlike the original where he just tried to keep up with Vegeta and not really learning all that much otherwise) since I'm sure Piccolo would make sure Trunks doesn't make the same mistake with thinking the SSJ grade 3 bulky form is anything worth persuing and might even help him get up to Full Power SSJ.
Oh yeah you’re right about him not tolerating grade 3
Trunk’s: hey piccolo check this out… KAKKAROTT *roid mode engaged*
Piccolo:… DODGE *fires a ki blast that bounces off Trunks*
Trunks: hah! I don’t even need to dodge!
Piccolo: Doooodge!!! *fires ki blasts everywhere doing nothing until he fires two stronger ones in Trunks eyes blinding him for a second*
I could have been charging a special beam cannon and pierced your heart in that moment, that form is useless *scoffs and walks off to meditate* oh and why did you say Goku’s saiyan name?
Trunks: I don’t know.. it just.. felt right
Cell betrays Goku. What a surprise.
Gasp.
😱😱
It's almost as if EVERYONE saw this coming!
😱 who could see that coming! ?!?!?!?
I remember when this guy was so popular but now I rarely see him, glad to see the dude is back and being a manly bro.
Cell might not school Goku with the power of friendship, but he'll teach him how to spell the word "humility"
VEGETA WITH 16 UPGRADES, HOOOOO
I hope Tenshinhan gets some super form of his own. Maybe getting god Ki someday.
More Raditz is always good. I can’t wait for the next part of Raditz on Earth. The thought of evil Krillin, facing an Angry, possibly Super Saiyan Raditz would be fun to see
The only Super form he should get is Potential Unleashed and God Ki wouldn't be too bad since it might make him powerful enough to beat Buu.
Time patroller Cell sounds like an awesome idea
I may not be remembering this correctly but... I thought Tien trained with Kami in this "What if" and Goku trained by himself in the wilderness
Does this not mean Goku didn't get to train in the Chamber when he was a kid?
I think you’d be right, I believe Masako made a mistake.
Probably a mistake, yeah. Oh well... at least this one isn't really important, that Goku knows about the room or not wouldn't change Piccolo bringing it up, he'd just need to explain what it does.
Was about to write that
I was just about to say that too
Goku was present when Tien brought it up to the saiyans before fighting 19, right?
I'm pretty sure that when we hit the Buu saga we're gonna get a Majin Goku scenario. Seeing as how even after Cell becomes Perfect and breaks him both mentally and physically. That there will still be all that ego, bitterness and resentment that'll make him easy pickings for Babadi. I mean if he's gone as far as teaming up with Cell in this iteration, would him turning Majin and even more willingly so than Vegeta in canon really be outside the realm of possibility
Feel it makes a lot more sense than in the Vegeta Super Saiyan first what if, I'm still so annoyed by how that ended up finishing ^^
I'm convinced that if future trunks sticks around it'll be Majin trunks because of how fed up he was getting with goku and vegeta. That or Majin souped up piccolo for the android hunter debacle
Honestly Goku will become Babidi and the new Supreme Wizard and then go on to team up with Moro and absorb Berrus's powers and become the true God of the Multiverse and then Zamasu will have to team up with all the other mortals and become the holy warrior in order to stop Goku and the resulting chaos will destroy Universe 7 and will scar the other Universes forever, then Piccolo will become the new Zalama once Goku wishes to become the new El Grande Padre and kills the original and then Merged Zamasu and Piccolo Sama will team up and along with Zeno, finally be able to destroy Goku but as mentioned before after the battle the Multiverse will never be the same and Zamasu will become the new El Grande Padre.
If Prideful Goku become majin in this what if, it will be similar to What If Vegeta Was The First Super Saiyan where Goku became a Majin.
@@michaelsarmiento3057 Less Justice and righteous.
Gotta admit, I feel bad for goku in this what if. Such an iconic character becoming a paranoid mess because of one simple win
Goku in this what if is finally coming to grips with the outcome and slowly learning in a way, there will always be a stronger guy out there.. but in this case:
"Always be another guy cheating for power."
Might straighten him out a little, but not alot.
He and Hercule will get along juuuuuust fine
*thumbnail*
Semi-Perfect Cell: "Dodge!"
Goku: "What?" *gets decked in the schnoz!*
Darn it, Goku! I warned you not to trust Cell!
Perfect way to start of the work day, thanks Masako!
I'm honestly rooting for this Goku to ultimately end up with Launch.
Ditto
That just might work, never thought of that.
@@momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 based on?
@@momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085
Nothing that a simple wish (no need of Super/Namekian Dragon Balls) could not fix.
Just be careful with the wording (ShenLong is either a jackass, or very literal).
I still think the senzu beans can regrow limbs considering they regrew Yamcha's entire chest cavity.
That's just because he didn't have a spine to begin with
@@derianvandalsen I don't think I senzu bean is going to heal that either
@@derianvandalsen True but they don't heal bruised egos, sadly.
@@KaiserMattTygore927 only therapy can do that
@@derianvandalsen I pity the poor soul that gets to be goku's therapyst
Petition for what if Launch was a Z Fighter for December 2022.
One day, hopefully…
Megatron: YEEEEEES...!
Watch Masako explore the two launch personalities teaming up in the climax
Just had a thought about the Buu Saga- instead of Ultimate Gohan, we get Ultimate Tien.
I think there’s a What If comic out there that does that
Wouldn't surprise me. Tien would be perfect for the role. Especially since I don't see anyone else getting it in this timeline.
we might end up with four Majin Sayains too.
This is nice! I wonder if this Goku will make a dumb decision that dooms his timeline like First Super Saiyan Vegeta.
Also on the Caulifla Gohan one, I keep having this idea of a Fighting Scholar U6 Gohan who studied fighting styles and Saiyan biology, which would make him a real threat.
Goku and Cell went from shaking hands to throwing hands pretty quick.
Goku really pulling a vegeta here
Oh most definitely.
@@MasakoX Well hopefully Goku gets the A. Think Mark moment or B. finally getting his sense in the Buu Saga
@@OathKeeperRiku07 the way things are going, do you really expect the buu saga to play into this one?
Finally, something that seem like a redemption arc is about to begin for this Goku.
I do say that Goku here may have to get a soul purification pass out of self-sacrifice, if he is broken down *that* much by Cell in the next part(s).
He may see it as the thing he deserves, and tbh, it may be what he actually deserves.
He's Buu
Buu
Buu
@@Alovon Buu
Is Vegeta getting the Vader Treatment?
Oh dear he'll be both livid and terrified.
"Trunks, I am your father"
Really liking this Goku in this version of the what if it's very interesting
Goku forgot that Cell is part-Frieza and Frieza played him around for a fool
There is a plot hole here. In canon, the main reason why Cell has Frieza's cells was because he and his father, King Cold, went to Earth to get revenge on Goku. After Frieza is defeated by Goku, Gero's Tracking Device had collected Frieza and King Cold's cell in the creation of Cell. Here, since Goku kills Frieza on Namek and King Cold goes to Earth alone to get avenge his prodigy's death, where did Cell got Frieza's dna if Frieza never came to Earth. Second, since Frieza never came to Earth, Cell only has King Cold's dna.
I hope when Cell becomes Perfect, he breaks Goku's spine and ego
“Ahhh curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!”
Correct me if I’m misremembering something, but how could this Goku remember the room of spirit and time from his childhood if he never trained with Kami in this scenario?
With Tien being poised as the head of the Z team, like you said. I hope he will be able to shine later in the series. I always wonder about those "God-like" Tri-clops powers Toriyama added in one day, that he said he lost due to his cloudded soul from training under Shen.
Also, Rip 16
Once more I suggest: Capsules full of food to provide the needed supplies for multiple Room Users XD
What if mr. Popo and Bulma rebuilt the Room together?
I can't wait to see Paranoid Gokus redemption arc. Maybe in Buu we will get Ultmate Tien? Little sad we won't get fusion mechanics though as not sure how it could be incorporated other than Potara
Just a reminder: the plan was to use the time chamber 2 parts ago via ten shenhan (goku wouldn't know about the room of spirit and time in this timeline) before they got distracted tracking down the good doctor. Next to raditz turns good, this is my favorite what if, so I only mean this to help you keep your lore on point. keep up the good work Mr. Masakox. You're a master of your craft
You just pressed the Goku button. You shouldn't have done that.
(Sees the thumbnail) Sigh, well that’s not surprising.
Nappa and Raditz will probably only be able to get to SSJGrade 2, probably 3 or an unlikely 4 in this iteration. But, that will probably be good for them, as they’ll wipe Semi-Perfect Cell off the face of the planet since their not Vegeta or Goku. Even if Cell absorbs 18, he’s probably going to be in a rude awakening once either Trunks or Piccolo are done with the Time Chamber, or maybe even Goku has a change of heart to fight Cell himself when he enters with probably Tien. Either way, Cell is doomed if it’s a 7 vs 1.
I'm not saying Goku wouldn't train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber at this time, but I don't think Goku trained there before in this timeline since he didn't train with Kami.
*sees the last thumbnail* WHET THE HELL YOU DOING GOKU?!?!
*This thumbnail*
Vegeta: well that didn’t last real ***king long…
Top 10 Anime Betrayals
Just look at that almost perfect jawline. Masakox great work
Goku: "You want reality Cell? Reality is; you are an android! I AM A MAN!"
(An old reference to Linkara quoting Earth's End Superman xD)
This is one of my favorite what ifs mainly because of how it treats my favorite Dragon ball character tien shinhan but one thing I don't like about it is it keeps changing it's name
*Cell beating Goku to a pulp because of the consequences of his own actions*
Vegeta: First time, huh?
You're semi perfect cell impersonation sounds like the Grinch 😂
Trust nobody, not even your Cell-f.
Points for puns.
Oh how the turns have tabled Goku is pulling a Vegeta
How would Goku know about the Room of Spirit and Time? He never trained with Kami and Mr. Popo on the Lookout in this story. That role went to Tien.
This Goku needs a Muffin Button. Might help him relax if he had infinite muffins.
Big Green starts beating on 17.
18: “let that teenager alone!”
When goku tried to punch cell all I could think was
STANDING HERE I REALIZED THAT YOU WERE JUST LIKE TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY
Super Saiyan Cyborg Vegeta!?!?!
interesting so far. Love that Tenshinhan is the 'savior of earth' while goku is the jerk we love to see fight.
Not sure why I'm so hyped to see Mecha-Vegeta in action, but I certainly am.
Thumbnail says:
Semi-Perfect Cell:Thanks for being a dumbarse,Goku! (Punch to the face)
😂😂
I love this story . But give me dumb sweetheart Goku any day of the week
So Vegeta is going to be getting a kind of a "growth spurt"
I wonder how Cell would react if someone genuinely liked being around him.
Great series as usual, tho you made a small error, 7:01 you say that Goku remembers the chamber from his youth, that can't be since in this what if he never went to kami as a kid
Goku’s hubris has gotten him beaten.
Piccolo being everyone’s dad since Gohan isn’t here.
When there’s no Upload Schedule posted and then you’re hit with the Darkest What if. Talk about a Rocket Punch to the face.
Cell sounds like Bane
If trunks and piccolo go in i feel like trunks will get Full power SS.
If vegeta gets 16 infinite energy he will be bragging constantly
And goku will call them all cheats
Vegeta with Rocket Punch!?
1:55 Hah, Roundtable call back! We need more of the Legendary Man!
you said that goku recalled the time chamber from his youth, now maybe i'm forgetting something but didn't goku get turned down for kamis training, and therefor never encountered the chamber?
11:30 and it was done dirt cheap
Big green woke up and chose violence
Cool! I got here fast! ...now, Goku...how are you gonna play this one out, hmm?~
Me and piccolo: THEN WHOS GOING TO STOP HIM GOKU WHO WHOOOOOO
3:39
Wait, how does Cell still have Freeza's DNA here?
This would be good animated.
Jerk Goku: " this is horrible., your plan is horrible , Your horrible!"
Semi perfect cell: " ooooooh, took you long enough IDIOT" smacks him away
Make cell betrays goku and absorb goku!!?
Sounds like we may be seeing another appearance of majin goku eventually
If ten shin Han still has his amazing beat down of cell I’d adore Goku actually learning something from it. I’m interested to see what happens next :)
Tein should go in with goku to try and repair the relationship
The ultimate man? Saiy-an? Super Saiyan man? You could say, some kind of Great Saiyaman?
Goku's overdue for a spanking in this timeline.
I don't know if you did this already but a "what-if Goten was the older brother" would be a fun what-if.
Goku would do good to go to Yardrat and learn forced spirit fission
Where is piccolo's kioken? He had it against freeza and I guess forgot it apparently
Goku pulled a Vegeta. I’m not surprised. So we can potentially see an androidish form of the Saiyan Prince huh?
This is gonna be so freaking cool!
i know some might not like it, but I'm waiting for the day goku becomes a hero again.
These Whatifry are always intriguing. Wish Toriyama would allow fan universes to become Canon, or make his own spin on them.
next up we get cyber-Vegeta
See what happens when you have your ego stroked Goku..... you paint yourself into a corner
man Goku can not catch a brake.. XD
You know, expecting Cell to perform a bane moment from batman.
Goku getting absorbed by buu later on but being able to see Buus actions from the inside while being helpless to do anything about it sounds like it could set him straight. I think he will end up with ultra ego at some point if beerus doesn’t just delete him lol
Can't believe it's been 2 weeks since the last one, felt like it was a couple of days ago
super saiyan android vegeta, wonder if a mechanical body will eventually be able to handle god ki
It was at this moment Goku knew he screwed up. Again.
Oh no Cell betrays Goku for his own game why am I not surprised. Yeah Goku got no one to blame but himself maybe this will finally open up his eyes here. I'm still wondering on why didn't the Senzu Beans regrow Vegeta's limbs here? Anyways another good part, and looking forward to the next part.
I feel Vegeta will go the Android route so he can join the fight.
The Cell Games would still happened in this what if timeline except Cell wants to win the Cell Games and prove everyone that he is the best there is and the best around. If he loses the Cell Games, Cell will blow up Earth in the name of achieving complete victory.