When you believe with such certitude as he did, you can surrender to claim disbelief when challenged. That would make him a liar, a fake, a man with no honor to himself.
Truth is they should have been convicted of war crimes. This dude TU tu did a disservice to the people of South Africa it makes me look like he's is nothing but a pawn of the British crown.
You would rather tell a story of more dead people than the "sacrifice-one pawn," this story of unbelievable pain and forgiveness. Yes, that too is a choice. However, the pawns on a chessboard are not human-they have no power over life, and they can't save lives and set such a high standard for these shares. I understand the pain and the need for a different kind of justice, but I rather the sacrifice and the honor we could represent when asked to sacrifice. Vengeance or justice-the historical example of life over more death served both sides. I don't think I am made of that kind of doing, but I have the ability to admire it for the right reason. Go on, move me!
What a pity that you take the man to be as small minded as your understanding of forgiveness. As far as I understand his message is that he is a humanitarian, and not a political leader favoring a specific group of people.
I was thinking the same thing peoples don’t even look at the people they were killing as human and Tutu is begging them to except their forgiveness . Forgiveness don’t excuse the consequences that should be handed down for the crimes against humanity just listening to these people the are glorified in their actions see nothing wrong except being held accountable sick and sad but praying for peoples like this is much needed because if they don’t change the True God will seek vengeance.
@@tiwonnasims8206 Dont forget that the difference between true justice and "forgive and forget" is the victims level of melanin. Tutu the double agent was used to pacify the victims of apartheid and ensure the criminals kept their farms and ranches.
It is the most horrific thing to imagine he is walking around free to tell this story in exchange for amnesty. It is a nightmare to realize it’s not imagined
This isn't about the man, the TRC is about the victims and their families and the best way for them to heal. Retributive justice wasn't the way to help the victims as it causes a spriral of hate. Reconciliation was the best way to provide closure to the victims and their families.
@@babatunde55who’s to say. Some victims feel as if retributive justice is the only way to move on. Others feel that neither truth nor retributive approaches do enough because the systemic inequalities that have come about do not get addressed in either. How are the victims able to move on if they are in the same disadvantage as they were independent of whether those who victimized them are punished or free.
When perpetrators and those who ordered these atrocious acts are not held accountable and made to face consequences, it encourages other regimes in other parts of the world to commit the same kind of crimes with impunity.
What a visionary. The commission may feel like betrayal and injustice to those who have been terribly pained, but for generations to come, this will result in something positive and far greater than what our revengeful minds can comprehend.
Roy Burnacoven have you ever lived in a communist country? Luckily SA is not that, at all, even though the country has many aspects that’s unfortunately not in good shape.
Disgusting!! Privilege doesn't know what generosity looks like, when that is all they know, established through torture and greed! They'll deflect "look at what the other person is doing" because don't want to be responsible...that means you have to do the work of being accountable and reconcile...Unless your ❤ understands the real meaning of grace...they will see it as a waste of time. This is exactly what's happening in the good ole' 🇺🇲
I’m a Christian, and what comes to mind is this little pray 🙏 God for give them they know not what the do. But true to the light, they know everything that they did. And they knew it was wrong. I’m in that boat also. The dirt that I did I knew it wasn’t right. And I had to pay 💰 the price. They knew it wasn’t right when they was doing it.
I am afraid, I didn't know about the mechanisms of Truth and Reconciliation. While magnanimous at one level, I don't think such a procedure would ensure reconciliation and enduring peace. For that, you first needs justice. While capital punishment would have been state sanctioned violence, taking freedom away in the form of a prison sentence would have at least come close to being commensurate with the seriousness of the crimes. Further more, going through the painful process of recording and investing crimes should have been done. Simply granting amnesty does not ensure closure. It is pretending like wounds don't exist. Enshrining human rights and reconstituting organs of the state should have been ensured. The very perpetrator being interviewed is suggesting his former allies are in the police forces. The little that I know about modern South Africa, I don't think that has been achieved.
They came to our land mercilessly killed our people to occupy and own our land ,they hated our race yet they were the intruders."they had to be taken out and someone had to do it ". The audacity to come from wherever they came from see rightfully owners of the land as threats .God will judge them.
What's that have to do with anything? You want go back to innocent people being tortured and execution like before? Those dead, tortured souls don't mean more to you than home invasions?
When your country is built on deceit, evil and violence and no justice is forthcoming you can expect the same to continue. It isn't hard to figure out.
The debate is for me at least one of the most interesting and one I will forever come back to: is truth and reconciliation enough to call justice for genocidal atrocities. I don’t know the answer but the case studies are both devastating to read and impossible to not think about. 60 minutes used to be so much better.
I don't think this has ever happened in the history of the world or will ever happen again. If someone from South Africa here can elaborate on how things are today, it would be useful to know if the sacrifice of the victims was worth it.
The sacrifice of those victims were not in vain. I know many may look at the current situation in RSA and say it has gotten worst but things do take time and there is change. There are areas that are still affected by some of the laws inflicted during Apartheid but there is plans and actions taken towards that. There is multiple programs in action that aim to battle things such as crime, education and unemployment but not just the government but NGO’s. RSA is still united and we still doing what needs to be done in order for things to get better. Hope this clears things up❤️🇿🇦
What is the value of a apology when victims have to ask for one? Justice comes to all. The biggest thing in the world isn't the world! Say it ain't so.
We humans under the pressures of nature's laws only attempt reasoning to act or react to our moments realized of a moment as fate over and done. Never ever will change that in what is good and that to which is evil will forever be. Our struggle is not in each believing we know truth but rather convincing others to sense the same. Deliberate torture done upon another from one to the other will always be real EVIL!
The enemy has captured Captain Keyes, and are holding him aboard one of their cruisers, the Truth and Reconciliation. The ship is currently holding position approximately three hundred meters above the other end of this plateau - Cortana
Vicious mass murderers judging the crimes of others isn't scary at all. And you can guarantee part of the deal was the criminals keeping their mouths shut about the crimes of their captors.
I just walked out of the Apartheid museum in Johannesburg. As a Black American, from my point of view, this was like American segregation on steroids. What our South African brothers and sisters experienced were nothing less than crimes against humanity.
Our communities have a lot of similarities in our issues which I think might have to do with our similar histories, for example the broken families and the large disparities in income between blacks and whites
I posted them. I don't know what happened to them. 1. Pro Abortion 2. Pro Homosexuality 3. Pro Trans 4. Pro Gandhi (which was stupid). Gandhi was an anti-black racist
Raphael Sphesihle no you said that. What I’m saying is the pot should’ve never called the kettle black. Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s common sense so I’m sure you don’t understand.
There is no redemption for the one commanding. And that sacrifice is their own to pay for. You dont get away from the final judgement, even with your fake narratives, and media liars, and textbooks, and hiding in the shadows. Nope. Payment is always due.
Africa is the second largest continent in the world, an incredible land mass that coukd hold the U.S. more than three times over, and has the richest mineral deposits on Earth. Do you really think the entire place is how you described it?
@@abinsurly2910 East Africa is in blood bath because of Abiy of Ethiopia (second populace failed state of Africa) and Isaias of Eritrea aka North Korea of Africa. I know that for sure. North and North East Africa is no different.
@@abck23 I have family in Kisumu Kenya and Nairobi, friends in Uganda, and even West African friends who tout the economic boom all the way in Rwanda. Kenya. Rwanda. Uganda. All east African nations. All.prosperous and not at war. You seem to not know what you're talking about - or seem to think that truth can actually be found on either end of some white a**hole's camera. Or worse: reports of bloodshed in East Africa are all you see because that's what you want to see.
@Stopbanningme RUclips yikes so not the heathens who ripped out the tongues of people? Did you even watch the video?? So I have never killed anyone, but a man... on video admitted to killing 20 plus people .. and I’m a heathen? Ok
@@jojo777304 he called you a heathen because you are just demonizing a race. Every racial group had a history of sin. Quit thinking you are some holy person. You are just as bad as the white supremacist.
@@historyboy08 you watched a video that featured the war crimes of people who killed thousands and said I’m a heathen. Shameful. I made an observation of Tutu and you called me a black supremacist when I never asserted race. I said he was an apologist for apartheid criminals. Why are you so quick to make this about race when I was speaking about the men mentioned in these videos?
@@jojo777304 he wasn't an apologist. He was optimistic for the future, hoped that people would see the good that can come from the dissolution and removal of the evil that was apartheid. He did not turn his back on anyone, and held the same view before apartheid was dissolved. He felt and openly weeped with the people, but he still hoped. The heathens are those who call him a traitor or an apologist, the ones who still victimized themselves, despite being given a chance to speak up. Justice and goodness are not about revenge and retribution, and that is what a lot of you people don't get. He wanted to hope for good to come out of this, try and mend race relations, but the self-victimizing and self-pity expressed by you and the lot of the people who shunned the commission only made things worse.
*Tutu is Taboo* *And Evil too!* *"possibility of changing"???* *He's an idiot because true "Christian" change begins with heart felt remorse & empathy toward one's victim & a desire to atone for one's crime/sin. There was none of that here & Tutu failed the victims by ignoring true biblical standards.*
“I’ve been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa.” A few years later he was even more direct. “I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”
@Nitro Martini , can you please elaborate me in detail about Tutu's stance on Jews ...I really appreciate if you share some light on me ..I genuinely wanted to know more please 🙏
It takes one bad man to get power. Look at Hitler. So many thought they were patriotic and the Germans were victims to Jewish migration. What a joke . Look at mexico now or some countries in Asia. Cartel or government good people are sometimes blind and overly forgiving. Never forget the Holocaust never forget 9/11 and so much more even way way way back in history
@@barrontrump9917 except the jewish people practically did run germany in the weimar age the germans reacted as badly as they did for a reason they didnt just suddenly decided one day everything that had ever went wrong was the jews fault, even hitler would call you an idiot for thinking like the way you are.
As Christian these people should have paid the price for their crimesit doesn't matter if they had orders they were human beings they killed not dogs tutu is wrong every body involved should pay their are people who didn't pull the trigger but they get life or death these guys did the worst and got nothing
“I’ve been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa.” A few years later he was even more direct. “I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”
pray for yourself buddy, Anglicanism is heresy and a heretic is what you are, so pray all you want but just know that it will do nothing unless you convert to one of the legitimate branches of christianity.
Or maybe see brandon doze off every couple of minutes….totally sleep through it like he did on the world stage. I mean, she’s obviously got better things to do since she can’t even make it down to the border.
“I’ve been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa.” A few years later he was even more direct. “I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”
Sometimes in life we come across people who are one in a million. And if we're lucky we'll come across people who are one in a billion. This man was one in a billion for sure. A true gent and a stalwart. God rest you Sir. Your legacy will last for many years to come. RIP. From Ireland
We no longer deal in millions or billions, we deal in trillions and quadrillion. Desmond Tutu stepped into the quantum spectrum of being one in a quintillion. His passion, his intuitive wisdom, his forgiveness, his relevance, his reverence, and most of all his consistency. If there is no God, we should use our minds to create one to welcome him on his continued journey. You made this race proud--we, the human race. Thank you!
@@koalabear1984 The guy who denied Jesus three times? The opposite of a rock? Called 'little rock' by Jesus? That Peter? Yes, I know Peter. Jesus is the rock, our firm foundation on which our salvation stands. Jesus is our high priest. Catholicism is pagan.
@@koalabear1984 Jesus is talking to everyone, not just Peter. Jesus says you are peter. Upon myself I will build the church. I will give all of you the keys.. because 'whatever is bound on earth is bound in heaven' is not solely for Peter, it's for literally everyone.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu is a man of God but he was not the right man to head the TRC, I fail to understand why couldn't it had been a black lawyer or judge to head the TRC?
@@thesonsdaughtersofliberty5770 their history was destroyed, that is the reality. It wasn't even recorded until anthropology developed into the field it is today.
Man, I really miss that Bob Simon. I always thought he died a mysterious death. Faked maybe? He knew to much maybe? Got a new identity maybe? I mean, you never know.
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The repulsive smirk on his face has no remorse. Justice comes on judgement day. God is greater. To the survivor of all, peace be with you.
When you believe with such certitude as he did, you can surrender to claim disbelief when challenged. That would make him a liar, a fake, a man with no honor to himself.
Barb you are 500% absolutely correct
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I trust you’re talking about Dirk Coetzee?
Victims deserve justice not reconciliation.
Regardless of your politics, I think we can all agree that Truth and Reconciliation was a great level in Halo.
What was so great about it?
Probably the best level in Halo!
"Imagine some people are in jail for stealing chocolate..."
But these terrible people deserve amnesty? 🙄
Truth is they should have been convicted of war crimes. This dude TU tu did a disservice to the people of South Africa it makes me look like he's is nothing but a pawn of the British crown.
You would rather tell a story of more dead people than the "sacrifice-one pawn," this story of unbelievable pain and forgiveness. Yes, that too is a choice. However, the pawns on a chessboard are not human-they have no power over life, and they can't save lives and set such a high standard for these shares. I understand the pain and the need for a different kind of justice, but I rather the sacrifice and the honor we could represent when asked to sacrifice. Vengeance or justice-the historical example of life over more death served both sides. I don't think I am made of that kind of doing, but I have the ability to admire it for the right reason. Go on, move me!
Learn to have respect for a Nobel laureate peace maker for his whole life .
What a remarkable man you will be missed♥️ You changed the lives of so many people.
These people don't deserve amnesty. They should all rot in prison. I don't know how South Africans can be so forgiving....
it was forced down their throats by their clownish
They should have all been MURDERED. The same way they did the murdering.
Monsters. Absolutely dead inside.
All should be chucked in concentrated acid.
He has children I am sure
What evil MF
Tutu took a check and betrayed his people. Without restitution, forgiveness and reconciliation is meritless.
What a pity that you take the man to be as small minded as your understanding of forgiveness. As far as I understand his message is that he is a humanitarian, and not a political leader favoring a specific group of people.
I was thinking the same thing peoples don’t even look at the people they were killing as human and Tutu is begging them to except their forgiveness . Forgiveness don’t excuse the consequences that should be handed down for the crimes against humanity just listening to these people the are glorified in their actions see nothing wrong except being held accountable sick and sad but praying for peoples like this is much needed because if they don’t change the True God will seek vengeance.
@@tiwonnasims8206 Dont forget that the difference between true justice and "forgive and forget" is the victims level of melanin. Tutu the double agent was used to pacify the victims of apartheid and ensure the criminals kept their farms and ranches.
The current South African government is busy taking white farmers land. If that's what he worked for he got it.
This is so deeply sadistic, and disturbing, this man and others who are responsible should be in jail.💔🇿🇦😔 #Unimaginable
It is the most horrific thing to imagine he is walking around free to tell this story in exchange for amnesty. It is a nightmare to realize it’s not imagined
This isn't about the man, the TRC is about the victims and their families and the best way for them to heal. Retributive justice wasn't the way to help the victims as it causes a spriral of hate. Reconciliation was the best way to provide closure to the victims and their families.
@@babatunde55who’s to say. Some victims feel as if retributive justice is the only way to move on. Others feel that neither truth nor retributive approaches do enough because the systemic inequalities that have come about do not get addressed in either. How are the victims able to move on if they are in the same disadvantage as they were independent of whether those who victimized them are punished or free.
When perpetrators and those who ordered these atrocious acts are not held accountable and made to face consequences, it encourages other regimes in other parts of the world to commit the same kind of crimes with impunity.
When the the government can convince a population to believe lies freedom dies.
In post-Apartheid South Africa, terrorist home invasions are a daily occurrance.
No, it doesn't.
Or it exactly those same regimes commit more crimes in order to hold on to power because they feel they have no other choice
What a visionary. The commission may feel like betrayal and injustice to those who have been terribly pained, but for generations to come, this will result in something positive and far greater than what our revengeful minds can comprehend.
A communist dump? Because that's what SA has become.
Preemptive empathy for gaining generational wealth in forgiveness. If there is no God, we'll have to invent one.
Roy Burnacoven have you ever lived in a communist country? Luckily SA is not that, at all, even though the country has many aspects that’s unfortunately not in good shape.
@@royburnacoven3559 South Africa isn't communist.
@@BobBob-wb2ld The SACP calls all the shots with help from the ANC and trade unions. It's a red toylet.
Disgusting!! Privilege doesn't know what generosity looks like, when that is all they know, established through torture and greed! They'll deflect "look at what the other person is doing" because don't want to be responsible...that means you have to do the work of being accountable and reconcile...Unless your ❤ understands the real meaning of grace...they will see it as a waste of time. This is exactly what's happening in the good ole' 🇺🇲
I’m a Christian, and what comes to mind is this little pray 🙏 God for give them they know not what the do. But true to the light, they know everything that they did. And they knew it was wrong. I’m in that boat also. The dirt that I did I knew it wasn’t right. And I had to pay 💰 the price. They knew it wasn’t right when they was doing it.
Your prayer is right and just.
yeah but your a heretic if you're anglican
They should be forgiving but placed OUT OF AFRICA and anything they gained of wealth given back to the African People
I like this approach.
Literally the nazis mindset before they got pushed into the war
I like the approach of that
tragic to see people so pure they can't fathom that these people will not feel remorse, no matter how nice they are
Whatever is in your heart comes out, people can do such heinous crimes, have the devil of darkness in theirs.
White South Africans are evil
I am afraid, I didn't know about the mechanisms of Truth and Reconciliation. While magnanimous at one level, I don't think such a procedure would ensure reconciliation and enduring peace. For that, you first needs justice. While capital punishment would have been state sanctioned violence, taking freedom away in the form of a prison sentence would have at least come close to being commensurate with the seriousness of the crimes. Further more, going through the painful process of recording and investing crimes should have been done. Simply granting amnesty does not ensure closure. It is pretending like wounds don't exist. Enshrining human rights and reconstituting organs of the state should have been ensured. The very perpetrator being interviewed is suggesting his former allies are in the police forces. The little that I know about modern South Africa, I don't think that has been achieved.
Stated everything I was thinking perfectly. It's no wonder our crime rate as a nation is so high. We are a nation that is still not at peace.
How are these folks able to laugh during this interviews including Tutu? Imagine if this was holocaust being discussed, it would be an outrage.
Tutu was a sell out
They came to our land mercilessly killed our people to occupy and own our land ,they hated our race yet they were the intruders."they had to be taken out and someone had to do it ". The audacity to come from wherever they came from see rightfully owners of the land as threats .God will judge them.
Deadly home invasions have been a daily occurrence since the end of apartheid.
What's that have to do with anything? You want go back to innocent people being tortured and execution like before? Those dead, tortured souls don't mean more to you than home invasions?
Fake News
When your country is built on deceit, evil and violence and no justice is forthcoming you can expect the same to continue. It isn't hard to figure out.
The debate is for me at least one of the most interesting and one I will forever come back to: is truth and reconciliation enough to call justice for genocidal atrocities. I don’t know the answer but the case studies are both devastating to read and impossible to not think about. 60 minutes used to be so much better.
So, his life's work was getting war criminals off the hook, and you try to tote him as a good guy?
Media is so sick.
This amnesty really helped the remains of my father uncle we found in cape town in 2003
Mr. Tutu, those dead warriors and their families will never forgive you.
I don't think this has ever happened in the history of the world or will ever happen again. If someone from South Africa here can elaborate on how things are today, it would be useful to know if the sacrifice of the victims was worth it.
Would you still like that update?
@@Appolis786pls give it
Not much has changed today. 98% of the land and wealth in my country🇿🇦 is still owned by whites
The sacrifice of those victims were not in vain. I know many may look at the current situation in RSA and say it has gotten worst but things do take time and there is change. There are areas that are still affected by some of the laws inflicted during Apartheid but there is plans and actions taken towards that. There is multiple programs in action that aim to battle things such as crime, education and unemployment but not just the government but NGO’s. RSA is still united and we still doing what needs to be done in order for things to get better.
Hope this clears things up❤️🇿🇦
This happen when people wanted to be God’s.
What is the value of a apology when victims have to ask for one?
Justice comes to all.
The biggest thing in the world isn't the world!
Say it ain't so.
A big part of me wants the truth to come out, but to learn of how wicked this Coetzee white guy was, it shows that apartheid should never be returned.
In Iran they have a better justice system. When the family of the victim forgives the murderer, then the murderer will not be punished.
We humans under the pressures of nature's laws only attempt reasoning to act or react to our moments realized of a moment as fate over and done. Never ever will change that in what is good and that to which is evil will forever be. Our struggle is not in each believing we know truth but rather convincing others to sense the same. Deliberate torture done upon another from one to the other will always be real EVIL!
The Archbishop will ALWAYS be one of my true heroes, to admire!
Next to Christ, of course. ✝️🔥👍❤️
Absolute Legend, icon, scholar, humanitarian and all around good human being. You will be greatly missed 🙏🏽
@Nitro Martini and loved abortion for HIS people
The Arch will never be forgotten!
I don't really believe the death penalty... But that guy needs to go
That only makes you no better than him
The enemy has captured Captain Keyes, and are holding him aboard one of their cruisers, the Truth and Reconciliation. The ship is currently holding position approximately three hundred meters above the other end of this plateau - Cortana
Vicious mass murderers judging the crimes of others isn't scary at all.
And you can guarantee part of the deal was the criminals keeping their mouths shut about the crimes of their captors.
Literally what are you even talking about.
I just walked out of the Apartheid museum in Johannesburg. As a Black American, from my point of view, this was like American segregation on steroids. What our South African brothers and sisters experienced were nothing less than crimes against humanity.
Our communities have a lot of similarities in our issues which I think might have to do with our similar histories, for example the broken families and the large disparities in income between blacks and whites
Congratulations for getting out of Ormonde alive.
Let's go Brandon,.#FJB
The evilness angers me although I agree with Desmond Tutu...
And now this Bolshevik will have to answer to God.
Desmond Tutu may have done some superficially good things, but he had committed some major, major sins.
Thank you so much.
Idiot
He was just on the wrong side of the truth a few times. I don't think he was an idiot.
Major sins?? Like what
I posted them. I don't know what happened to them.
1. Pro Abortion
2. Pro Homosexuality
3. Pro Trans
4. Pro Gandhi (which was stupid).
Gandhi was an anti-black racist
Would be great to learn more about the CIA's involvement in establishing and maintaining the Apartheid regime.
All this is really helping them in South Africa. Their people are now oppressed by themselves. I bet that makes them feel better.
Yep but theyll still blame whites and Britain because its easier then accepting their own endless faults
So you're saying what happened in SA during Apartheid was better than what's happening now?
Raphael Sphesihle no you said that. What I’m saying is the pot should’ve never called the kettle black. Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s common sense so I’m sure you don’t understand.
There is no redemption for the one commanding. And that sacrifice is their own to pay for. You dont get away from the final judgement, even with your fake narratives, and media liars, and textbooks, and hiding in the shadows. Nope. Payment is always due.
A life well lived. God bless him. Now there is famine, civil wars in Ethiopia and elsewhere in Africa, talk about that.
Africa is the second largest continent in the world, an incredible land mass that coukd hold the U.S. more than three times over, and has the richest mineral deposits on Earth. Do you really think the entire place is how you described it?
@@abinsurly2910 East Africa is in blood bath because of Abiy of Ethiopia (second populace failed state of Africa) and Isaias of Eritrea aka North Korea of Africa. I know that for sure. North and North East Africa is no different.
@@abck23 I have family in Kisumu Kenya and Nairobi, friends in Uganda, and even West African friends who tout the economic boom all the way in Rwanda.
Kenya. Rwanda. Uganda. All east African nations. All.prosperous and not at war. You seem to not know what you're talking about - or seem to think that truth can actually be found on either end of some white a**hole's camera.
Or worse: reports of bloodshed in East Africa are all you see because that's what you want to see.
Same thing Israeli forces are doing to Palestinians... But the world chooses its issues
Fave : Amen for that, well said
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Bishop Tutu such an incredible human being... this was ingenious way to begin healing.
Best way to begin healing is with Justice. Not even God forgives the unrepentant.
If TRC worked why don't black people own their land and economy!
You know the answer to that. Leave your bias at the door.
i AM waiting 😉😎
Absolutely shameful, no wonder white people loved Tutu he was an apologist for these heathens
@Stopbanningme RUclips yikes so not the heathens who ripped out the tongues of people? Did you even watch the video?? So I have never killed anyone, but a man... on video admitted to killing 20 plus people .. and I’m a heathen? Ok
@@jojo777304 he called you a heathen because you are just demonizing a race. Every racial group had a history of sin. Quit thinking you are some holy person. You are just as bad as the white supremacist.
@@historyboy08 you watched a video that featured the war crimes of people who killed thousands and said I’m a heathen. Shameful. I made an observation of Tutu and you called me a black supremacist when I never asserted race. I said he was an apologist for apartheid criminals. Why are you so quick to make this about race when I was speaking about the men mentioned in these videos?
@@jojo777304 he wasn't an apologist. He was optimistic for the future, hoped that people would see the good that can come from the dissolution and removal of the evil that was apartheid. He did not turn his back on anyone, and held the same view before apartheid was dissolved. He felt and openly weeped with the people, but he still hoped. The heathens are those who call him a traitor or an apologist, the ones who still victimized themselves, despite being given a chance to speak up.
Justice and goodness are not about revenge and retribution, and that is what a lot of you people don't get. He wanted to hope for good to come out of this, try and mend race relations, but the self-victimizing and self-pity expressed by you and the lot of the people who shunned the commission only made things worse.
60 Minutes is the morally poor man's Project Veritas.
Inhumane and sickening 😡
GOD HAS REMOVED HIM> WATCH AS OTHER WICKED LEADERS START BEING REMOVED HERE AND AROUND THE WORLD
*Tutu is Taboo*
*And Evil too!*
*"possibility of changing"???*
*He's an idiot because true "Christian" change begins with heart felt remorse & empathy toward one's victim & a desire to atone for one's crime/sin. There was none of that here & Tutu failed the victims by ignoring true biblical standards.*
2022(G) “Respect and dignity.”
TUTU was a Jew hater, let's see if 60 minutes shows that?
he went to Israel and understood the treatment of Palestines was a form of apartheid
“I’ve been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa.”
A few years later he was even more direct. “I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”
@@ioxa8049 There you go..he was a Hamas supporter and fool.
@@ioxa8049 Then he "understood" nothing but supporting Hamas.
The power of truth.to gain power over life now .
SELLOUT!!!!!
The beauty of propaganda is you end up believing it
I am humbled by the actions of Late Desmond tutu.." To forgive is a Divine thing" ..
@Nitro Martini , can you please elaborate me in detail about Tutu's stance on Jews ...I really appreciate if you share some light on me ..I genuinely wanted to know more please 🙏
@@nyimatsering2757 tutu doesn’t like bagels.
It seems like the perpetrators showed no remorse
Oh my Lord
Tutu deserved a necklace for turning his back on his ppl.
yeah.. i agree
How could they be so heartless!! OMG OMG 😱😱😱😱😱😱
It takes one bad man to get power. Look at Hitler. So many thought they were patriotic and the Germans were victims to Jewish migration. What a joke . Look at mexico now or some countries in Asia. Cartel or government good people are sometimes blind and overly forgiving. Never forget the Holocaust never forget 9/11 and so much more even way way way back in history
He even talks like he admires his history. It's no different than a serial killer.
When you're a demon who can't see other people as people, it's easy.
@@barrontrump9917 except the jewish people practically did run germany in the weimar age the germans reacted as badly as they did for a reason they didnt just suddenly decided one day everything that had ever went wrong was the jews fault, even hitler would call you an idiot for thinking like the way you are.
@@barrontrump9917 yeeeeees just like donald Duck Suck tRump.
It takes one bad man 👍🏼👍
They stole the name from the famous Halo 1 mission
As Christian these people should have paid the price for their crimesit doesn't matter if they had orders they were human beings they killed not dogs tutu is wrong every body involved should pay their are people who didn't pull the trigger but they get life or death these guys did the worst and got nothing
When Treason is the topic such a move is no longer acceptable...when the World Crime threatens human life and the planet...
No one should hang someone else. Will the person that hangs the other person be consider a murderer? Will God forgive that person? I think not!
RIP DESMOND TUTU❤️❤️🙏
He was a racist like you
He was a bigot and an anti Semite . Some hero .
“I’ve been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa.”
A few years later he was even more direct. “I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”
Anti semite? Stop lying idiot
Bishop Tutu's life was a living, breathing, walking, talking, preaching example of 7 x 7000 forgive my brother. 🕊️
@Hispanic Causin' Panic 3.0 And just like Bishop Tutu, I shall pray for you my child.🙏🏾
pray for yourself buddy, Anglicanism is heresy and a heretic is what you are, so pray all you want but just know that it will do nothing unless you convert to one of the legitimate branches of christianity.
I, True Messenger Of Peace !!!
Never heard of him.
How was this possible
Wanted to hear Kamela giggling at the funeral. Guess she had something better to do.
Or maybe see brandon doze off every couple of minutes….totally sleep through it like he did on the world stage. I mean, she’s obviously got better things to do since she can’t even make it down to the border.
All the sudden she can dust off her indian accent.
@@Frankybeanselevators that's racist
Disgusting!
One of the most antisemitic figures of the last century
“I’ve been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa.”
A few years later he was even more direct. “I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”
You used "and" twice. Replace the first one with "on" or "in"
God bless bishop tutu.
LESAN Love 🆗
Remarkable man
Just proves how stupid Christianity is. The notion that you can do as you please because Jesus has paid for your sins is insanity.
he's Anglican so Anglicanism is stupid, not Christianity, Catholicism and Orthodoxy are based bud.
Very interesting
VENGEANCE BELONGS TO JEHOVAH!!!
Amazing
Sometimes in life we come across people who are one in a million.
And if we're lucky we'll come across people who are one in a billion.
This man was one in a billion for sure.
A true gent and a stalwart.
God rest you Sir.
Your legacy will last for many years to come.
RIP. From Ireland
We no longer deal in millions or billions, we deal in trillions and quadrillion. Desmond Tutu stepped into the quantum spectrum of being one in a quintillion. His passion, his intuitive wisdom, his forgiveness, his relevance, his reverence, and most of all his consistency. If there is no God, we should use our minds to create one to welcome him on his continued journey. You made this race proud--we, the human race. Thank you!
Yes of course
Catholicism is pagan, not Christian. there is no pope in The Bible.
Ever heard of peter?
@@koalabear1984 The guy who denied Jesus three times? The opposite of a rock? Called 'little rock' by Jesus? That Peter?
Yes, I know Peter. Jesus is the rock, our firm foundation on which our salvation stands. Jesus is our high priest.
Catholicism is pagan.
@twsartadventures3660 Never denied Jesus is our only lord, Peter has been given the key by him
@@koalabear1984 Jesus is talking to everyone, not just Peter. Jesus says you are peter. Upon myself I will build the church. I will give all of you the keys.. because 'whatever is bound on earth is bound in heaven' is not solely for Peter, it's for literally everyone.
@@twsartadventures3660 are you a protestant
Please subtitles for the deaf
Desmond tutu betrayed the nation
Archbishop Desmond Tutu is a man of God but he was not the right man to head the TRC, I fail to understand why couldn't it had been a black lawyer or judge to head the TRC?
That man makes me vomit
Challenge: With out searching, try to list just 10 Great People of African Descent that were born over 300 years ago.
How when their history is destroyed?
@@queene813 Lol, cant face reality huh?
@@thesonsdaughtersofliberty5770 their history was destroyed, that is the reality. It wasn't even recorded until anthropology developed into the field it is today.
Nice
Very radical 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Man, I really miss that Bob Simon. I always thought he died a mysterious death. Faked maybe? He knew to much maybe? Got a new identity maybe? I mean, you never know.
Car accident?
🤔 maybe a sharp pain in his leg . Maybe
@@suzanne296 cut break lines are easy enough to do
Unfortunately, Tutu was a heretic, so...
OMG --- this is a mess!!
Who cares - history moving forward !
Pray for us to the LORD our GOD Bishop Tutu🕊❤