Should I use The chisel Bevel Up or Bevel Down
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- The age old argument. Bevel up or bevel down.
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This man knows a lot about his paint can opener.
Oh boy... So true... I did open my share of paint cans with chisels, screwdrivers and many other "non can opening" devices :D
@@ogi22are you implying that a flat blade screwdriver isn't the correct tool for opening paint cans?
I worked construction for 20 years and have never seen anyone use anything else to open paint cans.
@@iwontliveinfear Nope, If it works, then it's up to you my friend 😁
😂
Well actually you’re supposed to lose all of your actual openers then you use your screwdriver/chisel, or if the can opener is more than 5 feet away, whichever is closer.
as a chiseled woodworker once said: “it’s your choice if tou want to go up or down.”
That’s bloody big-ender talk
That's what both grandfathers taught me. There's times when you use both ways. Granted they were born before power tools.
@@Klaaismjoke went over your head
@@zimzimph Did it? XD
"Its your choice if you want to go top or bottom"
Personally I like to flip it around, and rub the handle on the wood
The chad option
The trickster chisel
🤨📸
I put my chisel in a vice and take the block of wood to it.
Same, I love it when the chisel cuts my hand open, the blood really adds colour to my projects
You're coming at this from a good angle
I was gonna say he’s being obtuse, and you are being acute 😂
@@Nogdog945 acute girl? where?!
Back in the early 80’s, my high school woodwork teacher explained it like this. Both ways are right. He then got us to make a housing joint to show what he meant. Bevel down while hacking out the majority of the recess, then bevel up, and lay the chisel flat to finish off the bottom of the recess. First for the control and speed, second to ensure a level cut.
“The only people who are wrong are the people arguing about it saying one is better than the other” Love this.
You missed a golden opportunity for that bowl to be full of cereal and water, or even more trolling.. orange juice. 😂
Soda water and powdered milk (for potion of instant spoiled milk) and rice crispies for "Angry Spoiled Cereal".
Chuck Norris puts the soda then the powdered milk then the cereal then placed the bowl....
@@arceejackson8936 and they knew better than to spill, because it was Chuck Norris, so it all made it into the bowl.
The bevel is in the details😳
You realize that by saying that he will use this joke later right?
are you a father? because that is a dad joke if I've ever seen one
🤣🤣 There are so many great comments here, this is my favorite!
And ironically all the details are held within the bevel. We've come full circle lads!
That’s the best advice about hand tools anyones ever said. I honestly want to do more with them.
I switch based on what I need the chisel for :3
Bevel up for rough and wide spaces, bevel down for small and precise cases.
Yup same here.. bevel up for trimming dowels or bow ties and such.. a good razor sharp chisel will work either way
Same here too. Bev up rough cut with big chip removal. Bevel down for final surfaces.
Usually bevel down for fast removal, bevel up,for finishing?
There is one time when it is acceptable to put milk in first. If you don't have enough milk for a full serving, put thw milk in and then add cereal until there's the right ratio.
Na man, poor the whole bowl, add the milk. Eat from the bottom while tipping excess milk back into the bowl and regretting not going to the store earlier.
I'll allow this method ONLY in these circumstaces. Even then, I'll have you know that plain dry cereal is preferable to putting the milk first.
@@Ares_V I eat cold quick oats, which are inedible dry...
Bruh, this is exactly why people put milk first at all. You always get a good ratio, always have a manageable amount of cereal in the bowl to eat before it gets soggy, and you can still portion your breakfast by how much milk you pour because once it gets to a certain point you can't add any more cereal and have it still get fully wet by the milk.
@@kcj1993 heyyy man you didnt have to go n call em poor like that! I like a good pun but that was just dirty dude lol
You are absolutely correct. The only thing I care about is if my chisel is sharp and has been taken care of
This is the best answer to almost every question… “Depends.”
Ahh, ya beat me too it.😂😂
I don’t know much more than you’ve taught me about woodworking, or the tools themselves that you use while, but I enjoy watching your videos more than I do watching things about hobby’s or interests of my own. I thank you for your contributions and applaud your efforts.
I trained (and failed) to be a carpenter for 2 years, and you explained it better in a minute than anyone else who was supposed to train me.
I said that as soon as you asked the question "either way, depending on what you are going to do"
Great explanation! I use them so rarely that like a USB cable, i flip it multiple times before I get it "right". But now I learn the real difference and why both are correct. Thanks!
Being brought up by a cabnetmaker, and, a carpenter, and now I work machine maintenance for a living, I love your hammer😅
All techniques have their proper application was one of the very first things i was taught as a machinist honestly. Good points all around buddy.
This was a fabulous lesson! use the "Right way" for the job you are doing!
Both are good. I've always learned to use the flat side for digging deep and the bevel side for riding along the surface.
As a dentist, we use a scaled down version of this to smooth after using the drill. 10-7-14 enamel hatchet if you're curious. We're taught bevel down only, I often start bevel down and swap. Makes it even more consistent
Great short!! Good editing, well-written, personal touch as a creator, excellent and useful information. Keep more coming, if sustainable.
Just had this argument at work the other day. I like bevel down for the control and majority of the work and bevel up for the tight finish and making initial cuts.
I'm unsure why I'm getting so many woodworking recommendations lately, but I sure as heck am not complaining. Nowadays I really wish that I had focused on all the times we did woodwork back in school, but I was a hyperactive child that could never focus on anything and got easily bored. Woodwork feels like such a Zen thing to do. I hope I get the chance to do some (at the very least as a hobby) in the future again.
I never would have thought you could use it bevel down but that makes so much sense actually 😂
Different techniques for different tasks
I have never seen a chisel used like that.
I have learnt something today.
that explains a LOT about what went wrong last time o used a chisels for a project. ty
I agree. The bevel is there to give the tool more functionality. You want a straight cut downwards, you should have bevel towards the area of wood being removed so that the downwards cut is straight and smooth. However, once one removes most of the wood, then one should go bevel down to level off the bottom of the cut to avoid gouges. Also bevel down helps ply the wood upwards. Each side has it own application.
Glad i finished the short. I was about to open the comments and write, what are you talking about, it depends on what youre doing
Depends of what you want to do.
I preffer bevel down for rough work and bevel up for fine one. (When i'm making hole or similar, center of opening is up, wood i want to keep is down)
No shit, this somehow never occurred to me. Thank you, sir
same. was never taught this in shop class at school so just never even considered that it was an option.
ahhhh. NICE check mate!!!! well said and now I have something to ponder about!!!!!!!
This was great! I've seriously wondered this many times. Makes complete sense. Thanks
I asked myself this question a two days ago.
My head said it depends on what you’re carving for.
As someone that took shop class in highschool my teacher always told me both ways works it's all about the skill of the user this was a old timer now probably in his 80's so there way of doing things sometimes seems unconventional but their methods actually work well
I like to use my chisel sideways. This confuses the wood so much which makes the fibers lower their guard, making the cut easier.
That shirt is awesome and the cereal and milk hack only works for certain cereals. For example if the cereal has a lot of air pockets in it like Captain Crunch - I will apply milk first because I will continue to add more as I go. If it’s a heavy cereal - I will apply the cereal first and then milk 🥣
I just use it however I feel most comfortable on the project I'm working on.. when I hand carved a sakazuki out of mahogany I used bevel up to carve out the inside of the bowl and bevel down to help shape the outside easier
The jokes at the end keep me coming back. Content is great and I've learned a lot. But the jokes are just peak dad.
U made me interested in wood working, thanks dad
Competition will prove who style wins, but like you said, all depends. Have fun, nice video 🙂
Bruh. I thank you for this advice. I've never questioned bevel down as a way before now.
chisel is a small knife blade on the end of a stick at a slight angle from the length of the stick, it does not matter which face of the blade faces the wood, as long as the edge is digging into the wood. use the chisel in whichever way is most optimal for the purpose at hand, and always consider which way will be most mechanically advantageous
there is a thing tho, if you need to make hole like for latch keep, use bevel up on surface you need to remove. As bevel will lift material, and wrong way it will damage the part you want to be nice. Learned it hard way myself :D
I have used my chisel your way for years. I also use a draw knife the same way because it allows me to control the depth of the cut.
Ty for the knowledge I plan on doing kumiko and this actually helps a lot so thank you very much good sir
Thanks for explaining.
I had no clue Bill Burr was such a skilled carpenter. Good on ya Bill!
I do metal most of the time, but that bevel down rising up out of the wood....holy crapoli how did I miss that
Your one liners are great 😂
The best method: Whatever one is the right one for the job at hand.
I usually put my milk in a cup, and then add cereal. Usually in small increments, so I don't loose any milk, and keep adding till there is no more milk.
His joke reminded me of that guy who does the movie prop videos lol I like it
Bevel side is my personal favorite to confuse anyone
It really depends on application. Like for pairing and taking out material for dovetails I tend to do bevel up. But but for taking out waste on mortises for door hinges or making a wall bevel cut for inlay I’ll do bevel down. Honestly if you just practice enough your mind will automatically switch and it’ll turn into a muscle memory thing of knowing when to switch back and forth
'dig or scrape' is how I was taught.
tbh the only job I have for a chisel is cleaning off old gaskets
I had a feeling this was one of those "depends what you wanna do with it" situations
I'd say that deciding which is better is pretty situational, as going bevel down will most likely give better control, bevel up would probably allow you to dive down at a steeper angle, like when cutting the fitting tabs on a part of a chair or looking to bore out a socket for said tab.
Depends on what you want I use it bevel down because it's easier to carve sheaths that way
Perfect explanation!
It all depends on the work you're doing at the time, that's what knowing your tools will do for you!
Thanks for the information.
That is a weird question to ask. There are a lot of different uses for a chisel and each use you're going to switch it for what you need.
Dr. Seuss covered this topic perfectly in his "Bevel Battle Book."
I put the milk into the bowl first, so I can roughly measure out how much milk I'll have and so the milk is out of the fridge for less time. I like to pour smaller portions of cereal, so it stays crunchy longer and makes it feel like I've eaten a lot, since I've gone back for additional "servings"
I’ve always been curious about this, it’s pretty cool!
my teacher taught me how to use it both ways i didnt know people thought there was a "right way" to it
Some nuggets of understanding there. Many thanks for the share!
Quick answer, depends on what you're trying to do with the chisel.
Sometimes in certain circumstances for certain uses, it needs to be used in both ways.
And now, after listening to the rest of the short, I'm happy to see he agrees with me.. 😁😁
yeah i've always done both depending on what i'm working on. the job dictates not me.
As someone who has had to chisel things and learn by doing, I was wondering why it was a question and if I had missed something. It's happened before.
Bevel up for planing and cutting corners 😊
This was once upon a time how we were taught in woodwork class at school .
I was quite literally thinking this 2 minutes ago then this short popped up.
I like mind reading!
I've got forty years in on figuring that out and both are the right way
Now I need to test this with my wax carving.
Same thing with the cereal, it just depends on whats best, if I eat rice crispies or mini wheat, I do milk first cause itll mess up the cereal if it sits longer than 3 seconds in the milk
This is also how I feel about what color tennis balls are
I use both; depending on the need.
Thanks for bevelling up our game...
You know what they say: “It’s your choice if you want to go top or bottom”
Use it how you see fit. If you get better results one way, then use it that way. Obviously as long as it's safe.
I've always been taught it depends on how you want to do your cut.
"If you're arguing, you're wrong."
Damn, didn't expect to have an existential crisis from a woodworking channel, but here we are 😂
So application is determination of the way you should use it.
Bevel up or down depending on the type of cut you need to make (it is a two sided tool).
Milk: put cereal in first, pour milk until the cereal just begins to float or is covered, milk to cereal ratio is now optimal.
"That boy puts the milk into the cereal before the bowl." Sound like an old saying.
I always was told it depends on the job or the situation
To those who don’t get it, the tool is how use it for the purpose you need it to do. You need it to dig, use it to where it digs; if you need control, adjust it so you yourself can control it to your liking.
iE don’t got to impress people who don’t care Or really watch you work.
This was everything and I love you for it 😂
🎵 rise up when you're livin on your knees you risee up🎶
Depends on what I’m doing tbh, cleaning out a joint bevel up, chiselling out bulk bevel down just depends on the application I’m using it for
I like bevels on both sides tbh lol different angles on each
I fully endorse what ever method you think is wrong.
To sum this video in one statement: Going bevel up or down is always situational as to which is best falling to whether or not you need a strong force but fine control or a light touch.
I use it sideways to split the wood in half then chuck it into the fire
Same line as right tool for the job, orientation depends on the application
I hold the blade and smoosh the handle in to my workpiece. Takes longer but provides a more accurate rate of angle.
Depends on if I'm digging in or shaving off.