Really enjoy your videos, even after 41 years of riding I am still learning helped by the fact your vids are clear, direct and to the point. So thank you for sharing your time and skills it’s really worthwhile what you do to help the motorcycle community.
The Tiger rides with me every day Bash, and in all weathers... he's done over 5,000 miles with us this year and he barely shows any signs of wear or fading ... he's my little mascot and we even call him Bash!
Ayup Duncan, good to hear from you fellah! Simple common sense, if the alarm is switched off and the engine is running (even just the ignition being on) then it'll never go off...!
Just got delivery of my Motobatt battery today, and am about to install my first motorcycle battery. This video is a perfect guide, and you covered everything and more. Great to even hear you talk about recycling responsibility. All the best, and thank you from New Zealand.
Thanks mate, glad the video will help, good luck with your intsall, I think it's important that we all recycle responsibly, epsiceally when so much of what we do with vehicles creates noxious waste, in one way or another... all the best, Del
@@Moonfleet41 Hearing the roar of my engine yesterday after I installed the battery made my heart sing! I followed your instructions meticulously. Thank you *SO* much. And agree with you 100% regarding recycling. Cheers again Del.
@@Sulu-sw3zo Wow that's great news brother, glad to hear it, and I totally agree with you the sound of a fire up when you've fixed a problem is sweet music! Ride safe my friend, and enjoy your bike.
That's a very good point about connecting the bike's main leads first, with any accessory leads on top. Makes good sense but I had not thought of that before. Thanks for that.
At first i always thought your vids were like sketchy and not trustworthy but you are almost like a holy grail of information. Just plain simple explanations with good tips along the way.. thankyou
Just wanted to say thanks. I changed the battery again after several months of no use. I've moved from East Sussex to Cumbria and I was reluctant to say goodbye to the Tiger, same model and colour as yours. Hopefully, dog willing, I'll be able to enjoy the countryside here now. Cheers. Chris
Thanks for this video, I had a dead battery this morning and on the back of this video I have ordered a Motobatt from M&P for delivery tomorrow. Even though I do 60 miles a day the battery wasn't holding the charge and when the temp went below -1c last night it killed off the charge. Thanks for your honest videos, very useful.
I WILL get one...i find if i ride my daytona 12 based fighter after my 12 bandit .the triumph just wants more and delivers it in a brutish rip your arms off way which is great..it also scares people...wheress the bandit is comfy quiet flying sofa experince which i also love...i guess the tiger is a mix of both worlds..cant wait..Masive respect to your time making vids and replying to comments and all the forum stuff ...You deserve only great things...
Cheers Springy, you're very kind mate... it's all good fun and worth every minute, as it's brought us some amazing friends around the world... thanks for joining the forum mate, and taking the time to contribute, it's much appreicated!
Hello I decided when I bought my bike last year was to buy but keep a Motobatt Battery. Seeing your video I decided to take it out of it box Charge it up because its been in the garage shelf and fitted over the Easter weekend. Thanks Del.
Great advice throughout, and a nice bit of kit that. Nothing worse than bump starting a great lump of a bike on a freezing cold, wet morning. How do I know? Yep, like many others, I learned the hard way!
Cheers mate, Angus Classic Bikes sold me one of these as a replacement for a dropping acid battery in a Street Triple so I thought I'd have a quick RUclips before installing it. Learned a few things!
Got my new steed Del and it already had pre-installed a motobatt battery so just getting a bit of a refresher on its maintenance etc. Great video as always God bless you Del and Pen 😀
Aha a Tiger then?! Lots of potential, I had fun making The General... are you taking it to the darkside?! Keep safe my friend and have a blessed Easter weekend, ride safe, D&Px
Bought one 4 my sportster, great battery! Had to call though ,my model wasnt listed on their site but great customer service. Couldnt be more satisfied. Del keep a watch in your mail for an Onionsack!lol Sending u something this Friday, life has a way of delaying things! Great vid and good tip on removing ALL JEWELRY when working on anything! Nothing like drawing back a nub!lol
Ayup Ron, great to hear from you brother, I'll keep an eye on the mailbox and look forward to it! ... always good to hear from you buddy, hope life is treating you over there in the beautiful mountains!
Nice one Tony, still can't believe they sell 'fill yourself' batteries with little plastic bottles of acid in 2014 ... see you soon buddy, all the best, Del & Pennyx
Thanks Del. Learned something new. Always take off the Negative first. On the install the Positive first. Dummy me. Guess I've been lucky all these years. Been doing it both ways.
I think many people have, and its safe as long as you dont touch both at the same time...then it gets sparky.. thanks for watching James... ride safe.. Del.
Cheers buddy, we hear the artic polar vortex is on it's way to the US.... keep warm and keep that beautiful Harley tucked up indoors... it's too fine to take out in the snow!
Hi ,dell watching your video on motobatt,battery swap on a triumph tiger,my brother has one on his ducati 916,I have ordered one for my softail, these as you say,are excellent batteries,especially for big vee twin engines, needing good cranking power,best wishes mike 🇬🇧
Hi Del. I love all your videos. Very helpful. Just wanted to mention that your battery is not gel filled. It is an AGM battery. (Absorbed Glass Mat) Glass mats are soaked in acid and pressed against the plates. This is different to a gel filled product. In general, these batteries should only be used in the upright position unless the manufacturer says they can be used on their side. They are maintenance free and valve regulated. This means they won't go bang if overcharged. A valve will release like a pressure cooker. You will be able to see the valves on top of the battery. Round circles in the plastic top. Still a great battery but not quite as top tier as Gel. Gel is still filled with Acid but the acid is suspended in a special Gel that goes hard. This means it can not spill even if the battery cracks and as you say, can be installed upside down or on its side. Just thought I would mention it. Cheers, Lee @ Exide.
Lee Allen You're very kind Lee, this is why i love YT so much, we can all learn from each other and in so many ways, ive lost count of the things ive picked up from viewers who work in specific fields and have expert knowledge, you can't buy that kind of learning in any school... thanks for watching and taking the time to get in touch, glad you enjoy the videos mate....ride safe aye... Del.
Completely agree with everything here, I've been using Motobatt batteries for a few years now, always very pleased with them. Cost vs quality nothing touches them.
Moonfleet41 anything that can easily hot start a 900 Ducati after a petrol station stop can't be bad, those big high compression twins take some power to start.
I must admit it del..for the extra £12 - £14.. more.. Depending on what size you need.. They are by far a better battery. Top vid as always.. and good safety tips!! Took me back 22 years ago when i had just started out on motorbikes and I arked my 1st battery doing a change over.. A lesson learned once and never forgotten since. It bloody hurt and blew a few things on the bike.. took me ages to sort out.. lol. ride safe... now winter is upon us once again.. is it me or did summer go quick this year??.
I think summer did go quick this year as it still feels like it's raining from last winter... and some of the flood areas where we live still haven't recovered ! Bloody global warming, I blame HAARP ....!!! Ride safe fellah and enjoy the winter riding!
Thank you so much !!!! I have learned a lot from your video I just bought a triumph tiger and the battery was playing games , bought an optimiser but no way battery is 5 years old.DEAD! Thank you again
Could you do a video on brake pad or suggest an upgrade ? Ihave a tiger 800 2015 a basic one and i feel the brakes could be a bit more responsive. I just bought it and the Bike has just been serviced so brakes are good! Saw few video and everybody says that brakes are not really the best on this bike. Just wondering if there is something better then the original one! Anything i can do? Thank you appreciate ur reply and thank you for your time
I replaced my factory fitted battery (yuasa) with Shido LiFePO4 last year. Cost me nearly 3 times more than the acid battery which Triumph sells here in India but a worthwhile "upgrade". Bike cranks much faster and battery drain is a lot slower too. Spec is the same as the battery you installed on your bike.
Sure thing buddy, you can charge them up, put them on an Optimate, or even take them indoors and charge them for a week, but you're only prolonging the inevitable! Good to time to invest in one just as it turns colder, gives an amazing feel of confidence! Ride safe, mate, Del & Pennyx (btw excellent bike mate... imo one of Aprilia's best bikes)
This happened to me the other day on the Enfield and it might be the same on some of the Harleys/cruisers/etc: If your battery is held onto the side of the bike then check the battery strap for nicks, tears and splits. Mine broke, the battery had fallen against the chrome battery cover, melting the Earth wire and producing a sudden urge to swear lots...
Just ordered mine, help for the install tips. After 4 years with my GTX14-BS battery on my Tiger 955i returning from long business trip found it dead, even though it was connected to a charger, but due to mains power failure, the battery dried out totally. I will try the Motobatt, GS was not good, on my other bike i have an odyssey that im very happy with event though is getting old as well.
Great vid i will have a look at those bats may have to spray it black as mine on display ha ha,i do remember you fitting one on the harley but will they be ok for a 1200 as cant remember if mrs pitstop was a 883? many thanks
Ayup Peter, it's the same battery for 883 and 1200... and you save yourself a fat few bob over a genuine H-D one, as they are more than twice the price! As for the colour mate, get on EBay and buy yourself an off cut chunk of decal vinyl in satin black and wrap it round the outside - job done and won't cost you more than a fiver!
Always enjoy your easy to understand videos mate. I've just bought a Motobatt for my 2012 Dyba Fat Bob and the terminals wont allow me to attach my battery leads. I've got 90° arms that attach to each terminal but no matter which way I configure the brass fittings I cant get them to 'inside' front fit the arms as they only 'outside' front fit. Have you come across this before?
In a previous video I fitted one of these to a Sportster, and they have the same fittings as the Dyna, namely on the front face of the terminal, not on top, and I was able to fit it just fine... is it possible they sent you the wrong battery, it's a long shot, but worth checking?? As it worked ok for me...
Congratulations on your block, really nice work. If it is possible maybe you can give us some tips on Triumph Rocket 3 (2007), these bikes do not like cold weather at all and it is really hard to start them, I will appreciate any information about it to fix this problem, anyways I am shopping now for a new gel battery to see if that will take care of the problem. Thank you
Hi Mariano. If you mean that they kill batteries and need more amps....then you can spend a bit more money (usually just over £100) and buy a Lithium-Ion battery, they are reputed to be the best....and make sure you get the right CCA spec for your bike...after all, its practially a car engine..!!
Nice one Jops.....you'll be chuffed with the way it spins it over now...much more confidence inspiring when you drag the bike out for the commute in minus 8 degrees...lol
Good choice buddy, it's worth it with a Harley for nothing more than they are 50% cheaper! And I'll bet Harley buy them in and print their name on them anyway... can't see the MoCo making batteries in-house....!
Alright, Del? Just an old subscriber here. You saved me bacon soo many times before, unreal. Really enjoy your videos. I got this issue and dunno how to fix it. Maybe you could help. I got a street triple 575 - 08 plate. This thing was trouble since I got it. I broke down more times than I can count. It has its regulator rectifier and stator changed - It was faulty as they all are from the factory - common fault. One day I tried to start the bike to go to work, the bike did not start. I'm thinking, dead battery. Changed the battery 3 months ago, and bought a YOUASSA, you'd like to think that should work fine, so it did, for 3 months, but I now got the same problem again. Before when I jump-start it, it showed me on the multimeter 14V, banging innit. Yesterday I took the bike out for a ride, and the engine just stopped as I was riding. Pushed it back home, 3 miles :O jump-started it again. It now only shows me on the multimeter 10.5V while running. What do you think? Surely I cannot have two faulty batteries one after another. Worth mentioning that I disconnected my heated grips and any extras. How can I check the stator or the regulator in order to eliminate them one by one? Any ideas? Kind regards mssieur :D
Hey Del, ... I bought a Yuasa (very good but not the best) battery for the Triumph last month. Cost me $89.00 over here! Just curious, do you see yourself having the same 4 bikes in your garage a year from now? ..... Paint update on the rear cowl coming soon ..
Hi Jeff, Yuasa batteries are pretty good, been around for decades... as for the 4 bikes, the Bandit is going not long after it's finished, for myself the Scrambler and the Tiger are the best combination of two bikes to cover every application of my usage that I've ever had... but I cannot speak for Penny, that's her choice, she loves her Bonneville, so who knows!... how about you?
I may consider selling the Harley in the spring. If I do, I will look to buy another but I will take my time and wait until something knocks me down. I am enjoying the Bonneville, I just wish it had more low end power. It is a fun ride though.
Vanrocco66 Sounds like a plan buddy, i remember your white Fatboy when we first heard from you.... as for power on the Bonneville..even in factory trim they can loose any harley round the streets as they weigh half as much, and can go round corners...lol
True but the difference in low end power between my 1200 and the Bonny is noticeable for sure. .... Is it possible to increase the rear sprocket to a 45 tooth and decrease the front as well? Or is it usually only one or the other?
Vanrocco66 Your Harley is 300cc bigger, but 65lbs heavier...you've taken weight off both bikes so the difference will be about the same, the weight differnance amounts to a small person on the back...plus the suspension in the Bonneville works...and harleys just dont, even my XR1200X stuggled to steer even half as good as a Thruxton...its this flexibility that makes the Triumph such a fun bike to ride...i ride mine everywhere like i stole it..all i did on my Dyna was scrape the frame and fear hedges... power is nothing without control aye..! when i get another Harley it will be 'aswell' as the Scrambler, i cant give up that swervery for anything..its just too much fun! You can buy a 19 tooth front sprocket from TEC as a simple upgrade to gearing, and it'll give you a more relaxed top speed...but it then wont launch off the line with as much gusto...its always a trade off.! here;- www.tecbikeparts.com/triumph_parts_page4.html
Great info there Del, exactly what it says in the Harley owners manual....all I can add is if you still have a slow cranker the starter motor is suspect, and if you have a scrap metal yard near by they will give you a few quid for the old battery (lead) ;-)
Happy New Year Del Greetings from Vancouver Island, Canada. Oil coolers. Have you installed the HD version on a Sportster? I have a 2012, XL 1200 C, and I need to get the heat down. Or Do you have knowledge of similar oil coolers that might be better. I'm needing the I tire kit and not just the coolest. Anyways thought I'd drop a line to get your spin on it. Thanks Dennis
Nice one matey, usually get what you pay for with batteries so happy to pay that bit extra =) Out of curiosity though why must the battery tabs be on the terminals before any auxiliary stuff?
If you haven't already found out The leads go on first because they will make a better connection with the terminals so starting the bike would be easier. Any accessories go after the main leads because you don't really need then as they aren't important.
Hi Del once again a superb detailed video... Need a clarification. Can I use a 9 amps battery in my Bonneville SE. The original 10 Amps battery is currently not available in n my country. Thanks
Hi Prasad, if you're in a warm climate, and you keep the battery on a tender when not in use, or alternatively you use it regularly every day, then the 9amp should be fine... it's only in cold weather or long periods of lay up that it may struggle... as long as it's kept fully charged, it should be fine!
@@Moonfleet41 thanks for the prompt reply Del. I live in a place where it's warm all round the year. I have my battery hooked to the battery tender also. I'm happy that I can fix a 9 amps battery. You are simply awesome 👍
Ayup Springy, you know what mate, since riding this for the first time earlier this year, and 5000 miles ago, I can't stop enjoying it! It can cruise me and Penny up the motorway, hoon through the bends like a yobbo and still gave me 12's on the strip, it's the bike that just keeps giving!
Hey , how are you? me again , just to let you know that I serviced my front brakes and they are working like a champ !!! Thank you so much for all the info . Quick question for you , Because the lack of knowledge on how to use a torque wrench , I Realized that went over the 40 N the calipers are suppose to get then I readjusted them again to the right spec with lock threat . Do you think this can be an issue? Just thinking that if you go over the right amount of force maybe it will never be the same if you readjust to a less force .... Thank you for your time
Hi Mariano, You must NOT use thread lock on your caliper bolts, it can cause them to jam in there and damage the thread whne you take them out later...the heat of the brakes will bake the thread lock hard and make it solid....best thing is to take them out, clean the bolts and use copperslip on them....and buy a small torque wrench to do the job right....its a wise investment as you will use it again and again... hope that helps.. Del.
Nice video. I'm curious though, since these batteries have a extra set of terminals, why not attach the wires for the battery minder on them and not bother connecting them with the main power cable for the bike?
These batteries are unique in that they have two sets of terminals allowing you to use them regardless if your old battery has the + on he right or left just by turning the battery around (as you did to make sure you were setting it up correctly to match your old one at 8:54). After you have connected your battery to the bike you still have the two plugged & unused terminals in the back that are free. The manufacture actually mentions in their own videos that you can use these for accessories. My question was, why not remove those plugs and, with another pair of screws, attach your minder to those? A resourceful fellow like yourself could come up with the means to make a protective cover for them. Perhaps, since this would only be for a trickle charger with low voltage/amps, you can use a non-conducting nylon bolt, with a nylon washer under the head, covering the eyelets to your minder. It appears from the video there is a sufficient area on the terminal for the eyelet from the minder to make contact without the need for a metal bolt. This may then act as a means of both fastening the wires and covering the contact point. Just a thought.
OOOh the back terminals... lol... i haven't laid hands on a motobatt for a year or two and sold this bike a while ago... Yeah, of course, i forgot about the "Four" terminals...i was thinking you meant just tab them through the side hole of the one you use... and of course, you could use those back holes for any accessories connections like charger, heated suit plug, the new battery tabbed hot grips etc etc.. and just keep the main ones free for the bike only... good thinking... you see thats why i like RUclips... thanks foroyur input buddy.. take care.. Del.
I had a faulty rectifier miles from home so the battery kept charging and the acid kept boiling ! Not a good smell didn't notice till we pulled up the battery had swelled up and cracked so I guess a gel one would be much safer in this situation. Cheers Del
There is a lot of worry in batteries with them cracking, but i have to say, that in 33 years and god knows how many miles, ive never had it happen, and ive ridden some right piles of shite in my time too..lol.. have heard about the Reg-Rec issues with the big triples, guess ill keep a watch on mine... thanks Rich... appreciate you watching.. Del.
Nice video man quick unrelated question, I've "wrapped" my bike like yours any way I could make it more durable? My pillion scuffed it near the handles cheers for your time, keep it going awesome channel you've got going
Hi Tom....what about carefully pealing out a square of the wrap where it gets scuffed, just to make it neat....then just stick some actual real vinyl in its place...the proper stricky backed plastic stuff....you can buy offcuts of 'decal vinyl' from ebay for pennies, and in satin black too.....hope that helps matey, thanks for watching aye... Del.
Del , Just bought a tiger and i am shocked , the engine sounds like its going to explode and sounds awful but i am told that is the sound . I will have to get use to it or ship it for a 4 pot .
thanks for another great video Del .. just one thing.. does it really matter having all the lights on then cranking it over, I was told to have them off when starting, but I know you would have the answer. Thanks for the info & cheeRS Lee...
Common sense tells me to have lights turned off while firing up; especially with older battery on board. Now my lights are automatic so I have no choice.
As said above mate....modern bikes have lights wired on all the time...but a bike with a good healthy battery will only be about 30% into its capacity while cranking, so lots left for a couple of bulbs...
Awesome stuff,..just bought one off of fleabay for mine! had nowt but trouble lately and im informed its a dead or dying cell in the stock battery!! ride safe Del...bizz
Hey delboy. My rocket 3 is hard starting atm.. Has been for couple weeks now..before this it would start just like that so..i have bought a new battery and still the same problem..i tested the old battery before i purchased the new 1 and the voltage did drop to about 9.7v on the crank up hence why i bought the new 1 coz the old was on its way out i felt.. I also have changed spark plugs about 2000kms ago..i suspect a fuel issue as the fuel pump does sound abit sketchy when priming before start..everything is there its jus cranking alot before it fires..if there is any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated..
Hi mate, just found this channel. Excellent video, well done. Just wondering, how have the Motobatts been for you guys so far? I've ordered one but not sure if I should return for a Yuasa as i''ve heard of a lot of reliability issues.
Hi There... personally i have never had a single issue with any of the Motobatt batteries we have used. and im on about the fifth one now.. the only issues that have ever got back to me from viewers was a guy who (along with two of his mates) bought three of them that all failed.. and when i questioned him, apparently they all came from an unnamed seller on china.... so maybe they were copies or something.. but ive always bought ours from Wemoto, never had a single issue like i said, and if i ever do in the future, i know that Wemoto will stand by the warranty and replace it if its faulty..! sorry i can't be more help mate, i can only impart my own experiences.. good luck with your choice.. Del.
Hi again, thanks a lot for the thorough and detailed response. I actually ordered this one from Busters and is being delivered today. I may just keep it and see how it goes. Cheap anyway. It's for my GSX1400. Here's hoping for a mild winter! :) EDIT: Oh yeah, picked up some of that Dragon's Blood nail varnish for when I do a chain replacement - Haha.
Been having a bit of trouble with my tiger battery,after looking online it seems that Triumph wiring to the r/r etc is not the best in the world, am still not sure if I have a r/r problem or if in fact triumph have set it up so it just about charges the battery,would be interested what multi meter readings you are getting off that battery specifically at idle and maybe around 3 to 4,000 revs
Dont have a multimeter mate, never had cause to use one, if your battery is more then 5 years old, there is every chance it may just need replacing....check it for voltage if you have a M/M, if you're getting anything less than 11 volts on drain down, then you probably have a dead cell..
Hi Del, have you had any problems with the motobatt? I've just done a search as I'm in the market for a new battery and like the idea of AGM, but loads of guys in Oz have had big problems with their Motobatt's going flat or even splitting !!!!
Hi David....ive had three of these now, and not a single problem, all i can do is go by what ive found myself in use.....it spinns the motor way faster then the OE battery, even when it was new..and as for going flat...i always use a better minder as i use heated grips most of the time, and short'ish trips...plus alarms can drag them down too.... they are well warrantied so if i had any issues id just send it back.. but not had to so far mate..
hi del i have a yamaha xjr1300sp 2003 model that i need to buy new battery for i want the motobatt battery but the one for my bike is a mbt14b4 and only comes with 2 terminals NOT 4. i am running lots of acc to my old battery. i found another motobatt battery that has the 4 terminals for fitting extras to it but the size is 15mm wider this is no problem as there is plenty of room after i remove the rubber block i found in my battery box. but my question is the battery number is mbyz16h. so i am guessing its a higher amp age, a extra 2 amp i think going by the 2 types . is this safe to change to the higher one as i really like the idea of 4 terminals not just the 2 . thanks del great videos by the way love watching them
Hi John, increasing the ampage of your battery by two is no problem, but it's not necessary either, am sure there is an equivalent ytx14 with 4 terminals, all the Motobatts I've ever seen have 4 terminals... why not check with Wemoto to see if they have a 4 terminal version for your bike?? Am sure that if Motobatt make one, which am sure they do, then Wemoto can get you one if they don't already have it... after all it's better to fit the correct battery if possible... let us know how you get on, would be surprised if they don't have a14amp with 4 terminals... (by the way also, the term Quadflex on the battery name I believe indicated 4 terminals, so if the 14amp you're looking at is a Quadflex battery, then it obviously has 4 terminals... perhaps check the battery again,as they always cover two of them up with plastic caps) - once again, let us know how you get on mate !
cool vid Del as per usual :) Thanks for the tip on the alarm/battery. my new bike has an alarm, and i had thought about how to change it. but didnt mind more than that as it was changed when i bought the bike (supposedly) lol Anyhoo thanks again :)
+Moonfleet41 Hey Del how goes it? I was just wondering if you have any issues with your mottobatt battery? i bought one for my bike in march and it stopped working properly recently. I got in touch with the company i bought it from and they replaced it, but the current on isnt really working either. fully charged it goes up to just over 12V but as soon as i try and start the bike it drops to 5V. gonna have to try and get another battery but not sure whether to go for motobatt again, or another brand. between batteries and FI indications coming up on the dash , im going mental trying to figure it out,
+bigoz1977 Not sure mate, all i can do is tell you that ive not had a single thing go wrong with any of the Motobatts ive had... have you checked your bike with a regular Yuasa battery?... perhaps you have a bad short draining the power..?
i put my old battery back in today and same thing. i put the bike in dealer mode to see what the error was but it came up as -COO which means not errors detected but the bike wont start. few other things i will have to look at. want it running before the winter comes in.
Hi Delboy, any thoughts (or experience) on these Lithium-Ion batteries I've been reading quite a bit about recently. Less weight, quicker charge times and slower drain? Apart from needing a dedicated charger, they seem like a good deal.
Im not so sure they're a good eal really are they mate?... they cost a fortune with the charger included (which as you said, you HAVE to buy), and what benefit is there other then the smaller size.. i looked at them for the current fighter build im doing, and i may go that way so i can tuck it out of sight...but its always going to be a lot of money when you can buy a Motobatt for £50...!!! had one in my Tiger for 10 miles and two years now and its like new, never missed a beat..!
Hi Del, I'm in Canada and like to ride whenever the snow stops and the temperature creeps above freezing. My bike(2012 Triumph Scrambler) won't turn over after a couple of days in the cold and stalls easily once started. The battery is old but rather than replace it with a stocker, I'd like to replace the battery with something a bit stronger. I was wondering about Lithium Ion? Do you have any experience with these? or advice? You and Penny do an absolutely fantastic job. I've watched all of your scrambler/bonnie vids now (and most of the others, also). And while I have only tackled small projects like bar-end mirrors and a BC seat, the videos are great tutorials. My goals are to fit a lighter exhaust, the TEC shocks and prog springs (TEC won't ship to Canada, unfortunately, and I have to order from the States for much more $), and because I am short, would like to find a way to lower a couple of inches. Well enough rambling... great job and thanks for any advice.
Hey buddy.. good to hear from you... With your battery, yes the Lith Ion batteries offer one great feature... "size".. see, a regular battery cannot be upgraded to one with much higher 'cold cranking amps' because the battery itself actually gets much bigger... and then they wont fit in the battery tray for the bike... But as the Li Ion batteries are so much smaller, you can buy one for a much bigger bike, something rated for a 1450cc Harley will have a hell of a lot more CCA than your Triumph needs.. and as they are miniaturized, it will still fit in the battery box with ease... then you can pack around the battery with dense sheets of foam to insulate it from the cold too... that would certainly work for your application... I have just taken my TEC shocks off today,. not because there is anything wrong with them, far from it.. but after 3 years with them, we have upgraded to some YSS Gg shocks, and they are awesome by comparison.. lost of money, over £500 over here.. but available from Wemoto.com, they may be the answer if they will ship to Canada, also, if you have to pay so much extra for the TEC shocks, then they wont be that much more expensive in the end... have a watch of the video we post tomorrow, and you can see them for yourself, maybe you'd upgrade to those instead... Thanks so much for your kind support, buddy.. its good to know we have been of help all the at from England.. taker care, soon be spring.. Del.
hi del once again an excellent video.. all your videos are so informative.... can I fix a 14amp battery in my bonnie instead of the 10amp. it's of the same size but costs 1/4th the price.
Hi Kumara, usually a 14mp battery would be physically bigger, but if it's the same size as the 10, and the same polarity, it will be fine mate... are you having starting problems then, or using lots of accessories??
Moonfleet41 .. thanks for the prompt reply... my bike is 2 years old but has done only 1300km. battery has been neglected by the previous owner. I have starting issues with it... it has a pair of denelli led lights and data tool security system.
OK, you didnt mention the alarm, any security system will drain your battery, and it makes no difference how many amps it has, the alarm will still drain it.. so maybe invest in a battery minder so you can leave it on charge all the time and keep the battery topped up.. that will cure the issue my friend.. Del.
Hi Del, I have a '16 Triumph Scrambler and enjoyed many of your videos. Thanks for sharing your expertise! Quick question for you: It's been only 6 months since I bought my bike, but the stock battery died just this morning. This week, I rode it daily until 7pm last night with no problem. My situation: - I've been riding everyday for the past few weeks for my 5 mile, 15 min (round trip) in-town daily commute with it. So a total of 10 miles per day. - I don't do many long rides. - The only accesory attached to the battery is the 12V cigar jack for charging my phone. - I had no issue turning it on in the last five mornings this week. This happened just this morning. - I HAVE once let the battery die... This past summer I was abroad for a month without charging it. With all the information above, do you think it is the problem of the battery or am I not riding enough? I would love to hear your insight. Thanks!
Hello my friend, it's good to hear from you... I don't think there's anything wrong with your battery, it's more likely to be your usage... it is generally accepted that it takes about 5miles riding to replenish the battery power from one start up of the engine on a cold morning and that's without any accessories included... but as you have a phone charger, they can be notoriously heavy on the battery, because rather than just powering a device, such as a sat nav, you are actually using the bike's battery as a battery charger, so it's quite juice on power... So it's more than likely that you would need to ride at least 10miles if your phone is on charge at the same time to re-charge from your start up, and that's your entire commute.... I would imagine the best thing to do is buy a 'battery minder' of some description, and keep it plugged in when not using the bike... if you can't do this due to no power in your garage, then even just taking the bike for a good 20mile ride once every couple of weeks will be fine to recharge the battery fully, but before you do anything else, perhaps test the battery just to make sure it doesn't have a dead cell.. it should be reading almost 13volts at rest, and at least 12.5 with the engine running.... if it's reading less than 10, then you do, indeed, have a dead cell, but this could have been caused by the constant heavy use on it, and lack of charging.... hope that helps you, all the best, Del
Moonfleet41 Okay, I see how powering and charging can be different in terms of load on the battery. I'll try not to charge as much unless I go on a long ride. Gotta get a multimeter as well :) Thanks a lot for the help, Del! By the way, does the battery in this video (MBTX12U) also fit in the Scrambler?
Hi quick question I fitted the same battery - that's all good - I also purchased the MotoBatt PDC Series Water Boy Battery Charger which comes with an SAE to Terminal connector. I hooked this up on my BMW G650GS and it doesn't appear to charge up via this connection point. Checked the fuse and it's ok. Only difference with your video is the order of the connectors on the battery terminals... I have tested the charger itself and it works fine on my spare battery. Any ideas ???
+David Benzal Hi mate, have you run the battery on the bike yet?? They come fully charged and don't need charging before first use... am not quite sure what you are describing when you say 'SAE' connector... but I just use an Optimate and connect in the normal way and it works fine... I can't really help as I don't know that charger you mentioned.. .more importantly, how is the battery working??
Seem to be ok so far mate, there's also the fuel pump weakness which likes to strand you in the middle of nowhere, but then all bikes have their gremlins, all in all, the Tiger is an amazing, do everything, bike... even gave me consistent low 12's on the drag strip at the Bulldog Bash! What more could you want from a big adventure barge eh?!
Great vid as ever Del - out of interest why does the main positive lead from the bike need to be the first one to connect up to the battery post, what difference could it possibly make?? Always learning great stuff from you! Cheers 'n' thanks - TMF
Its all about preventing an accidental arc accident.... if you touch both terminals at the same time "Bridge", you'll be in for a nasty jolt.....if the earth is connected to the frame...then the bike becomes a giant battery terminal....think about it, if the earth is connected, then the frame becomes part of the battery....and If you accidently arc against the frame (which is right next to it) while connecting the live...it'll be exactly like bridging both terminals at the same time....but.if you leave the earth lead till last, then you cannot arc out the live if you touch the frame...so the frame is isolated from the battery while you connect the live...then connect the live last as you cannot arc the earth to the frame..its the same polarity..... got it..?... lol Hope that helps mate.. Del.
Moonfleet41 Cheers Del for the full reply - I completely get the whole arcing risk thing (learnt the hard way on a Range Rover!), my point is, on whichever terminal +ve or -ve, why do you connect the bike main wires before any ancillaries (heated grips, etc)?? That's the ordering I don't get.....sorry about that! ;0) Lovin' your work as ever, do keep it up!! - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer Oh sorry,,,duh.. i get it now...(told you i was an idiot..lol) Ok, you connect the power supply leads to the battery first to get the best and most direct connection....the current doesnt have to pass through other layers of steel (washers) before it gets to the power lead... just good practice mate..
just got to know if you have to keep it top up if you park up for a week or so as i don't have any power were i park the bike but i have been using a oxford solar charge thing and if i do would the oxford charge be ok
+simon deedman HI Simon, as long as you have some kind of maintaining battery minder in place then it should be fine for a week laid up buddy.. as long as your battery itself is healthy..
its funny you mention about bottles of acid... we use rob hunter batterys for our school bikes... when they arrived i was shocked that i got quite a sizable bottle of sulphuric acid to put into them... i assumed health and safety laws wouldnt allow any old bod like me to be playing with bottles of acid... if anyone is to get that style of battery be bloody careful when filling them! to be fair to them though they work fine with all the bikes...
They do work fine mate, but the difference is they only last about 2-3yrs, yet they cost about 75% of the cost of this thing and worst of all, they can explode in a fire... it's not that the acid is explosive, as it's not, but acid filled batteries are meant to be open and vented to allow fumes to escape on hot days and if there is a fire and the pressure builds up, they vent safely, but with a sealed battery that contains acid, the pressure builds with the heat of the fire until they blow the top off, spraying acid everywhere... makes me wonder why the hell they're legal! (and before you ask, the gel batteries have no air in them, they are illed to the top and don't emit gas when charging, so if they melt, they just melt)...
Moonfleet41 i totally agree with you mate... the last bit of my comment was more of a way of saying im not picking on hunter batterys solely... as far as acid batterys go they are just as good as any of the others... for my pride a joy i would use a gel one
Hi Curt.. i haven't had a 1050, and not familiar with any of the known issues.. can i maybe suggest the Triumph Rat forum, they have a wealth of ex[experience with all Triumphs between them, and if its a thing.. then they will have discussed it on there for sure..! Sorry i can't be more help buddy.. Good luck with it..!
Hi I am looking for new battery, and I found Motobatt in Poland with good price. But Polish reseller have Motobatt with (Jacksonville FL and Made in China) signs. I am worried about the quality??? What do you think?
Don't know fellah, why not contact Motobatt direct and ask if you can buy direct from them, or at least find out from them if this seller is an authorised seller???? Good luck!
And sometimes it would try and fire but then cut out again? Maybe being starved of fuel? Once its going its going good.everything operates good..its just the start up..
Hi Del, I'm baaaack lol I've got a few weeks off starting Saturday when I get new tires, touring scottoiler and a brake strip clean (Getting a garage to do as they have the wheels off anyway and I CBFA as they're a good bunch of lads) lol. Have you ever used ACF50? I know you like the scottoiler stuff but last year I had issues on the pan with it being washed off as its water based, ACF being oil based not so much on the bandit so far (and when rubbed in creates a nice polished look). Project lemon bandit lasted 2 months before I got sick of it, not impressed with plastidip to be honest, blaze yellow faded quite quickly into the frost yellow, so when I get the RT12 I'll be getting professional decals done (plus "emergency warning equipment" aka blues and twos) for the local blood bikes. Also going through the process of RoSPA so I can ride for staffs and shrops blood bikes (I just do fundraising and dispatch at the moment). My instructor is insanely smooth and fast (ex police examiner for 20 years and IoM TT racer). Learning so much from him about how to ride the bike but I learnt how to look after my bike thanks to your videos. If I ever find a sound setup I like within my helmet for vlogging you'll defiantly get a big shout out
Hi Mark, sounds like you're having fun mate, and a worthy cause too. With the ACF50, yes ive used it in the past, but its not right for bikes, if used on a motor it cooks on and cracks off...then when you do want to clean off the crap, it takes paint with it in worst cases....also on cold parts it sets like wax and takes parafin to clean it off again, its never good to leave a bike dirty all winter with so much salt about, if the weather gets through (and it will) then it festers till you get to clean it in spring, then you have horrible corrosion.... Best route if you want a bike that still looks nice in the spring is a daily pre-ride coat of WD40 and a weekly clean off with hot soapy water, and re-apply.... that way you keep a watch on the damage that the winter is doing every step of the way and can deal with tiny chips as the appear... many will praise it...but usually those who dont care to clean thier bike and want an easy solution... Ride safe buddy, and dont place too much praise in fancy qualifications, certificates make rubbish body armour..!
I gently pressure washer the 'safe' areas of the bike every 2 weeks anyway, then get the sponge and muc off on the rest of it, trying to keep it in 'show' ready condition for any stalls I attend on behalf of SSBB, does mean I'm very busy anyway. And when he first told me all the things he'd done I took it with a pinch of salt (I remembered the FRO) until he did a commentary ride. He was seeing and dealing things I hadn't even considered looking for lol. The certificates aren't good body armour, but the training to get them can be if they aren't used arrogantly (He accepts constructive criticism from me which I find amazing considering his experience and my lack of in comparison). We got on straight away because the first thing he said to me after listing everything he's done was "they mean nothing without experience., and even less on the slab". I Didn't think RoSPA had such realistic instructors or whatever they call themselves these days. Anyway, have a great and safe winter, and look after yourself and pitstop. I'll try and pop up now and again when I'm not rushed off my feet with everything lol
Hello, I am French and I use a MotoBatt MBTX9U battery for my motorcycle (very good battery) I would like to know if it is possible to use the two + terminals and the 2 - terminals + and - on one side for the general supply of the motorcycle and for example the + and - on the other side for accessories thanking you in advance Best regards
Bonjour monsieur, thank you for your message, and yes indeed, you can use those extra terminals for anything you like... that is why they are there... just be conscious not to overload the battery with directly wired parts, anything too heavy should go through a relay, which I'm sure you know, but to answer your question, the extra set of terminals can be used for accessories!
@@Moonfleet41 Good evening sir, Thank you for your reply. You confirm my thought, so I am reassured. I will be able to use the other two terminals for the accessories, the only problem that remains for me to solve is to find a seller of the kit supplementary " MPT2-K Motobatt Terminal Kit because in France it cannot be found." Concerning overloads, I am very aware of it, there is no problem for me thanks again Best regards
Why not use the one in this video Rajesh.. the Motobatt batteries are great for Harleys, just order the correct specification for your Fatboy.. Good luck with it.. Del.
Really enjoy your videos, even after 41 years of riding I am still learning helped by the fact your vids are clear, direct and to the point. So thank you for sharing your time and skills it’s really worthwhile what you do to help the motorcycle community.
Thank you my friend, thats very kind of you, and i salute your experience... Have a good weekend. Del.
I like the way you explain about small things, which people ignore. And I been learning a lot from your channel, keep it going mate.
I'm happy to see the little tiger found a good home on the mirror.
The Tiger rides with me every day Bash, and in all weathers... he's done over 5,000 miles with us this year and he barely shows any signs of wear or fading ... he's my little mascot and we even call him Bash!
Wow! thanks
Nice one Del. I love these simple fixes. and the Alarm tidbit is gold.
Ayup Duncan, good to hear from you fellah! Simple common sense, if the alarm is switched off and the engine is running (even just the ignition being on) then it'll never go off...!
Just got delivery of my Motobatt battery today, and am about to install my first motorcycle battery. This video is a perfect guide, and you covered everything and more. Great to even hear you talk about recycling responsibility. All the best, and thank you from New Zealand.
Thanks mate, glad the video will help, good luck with your intsall, I think it's important that we all recycle responsibly, epsiceally when so much of what we do with vehicles creates noxious waste, in one way or another... all the best, Del
@@Moonfleet41 Hearing the roar of my engine yesterday after I installed the battery made my heart sing! I followed your instructions meticulously. Thank you *SO* much. And agree with you 100% regarding recycling. Cheers again Del.
@@Sulu-sw3zo Wow that's great news brother, glad to hear it, and I totally agree with you the sound of a fire up when you've fixed a problem is sweet music! Ride safe my friend, and enjoy your bike.
OMG! Brilliant ! Just about to buy an acid battery, not now! You explained that so easily anyone can do it... thanks for the VERY helpful tips!!
I agree with Vikrahm...Delboy"s adds depth to simple installs. Makes the whole process efficient and safe.
That's a very good point about connecting the bike's main leads first, with any accessory leads on top. Makes good sense but I had not thought of that before. Thanks for that.
At first i always thought your vids were like sketchy and not trustworthy but you are almost like a holy grail of information. Just plain simple explanations with good tips along the way.. thankyou
Just wanted to say thanks. I changed the battery again after several months of no use. I've moved from East Sussex to Cumbria and I was reluctant to say goodbye to the Tiger, same model and colour as yours. Hopefully, dog willing, I'll be able to enjoy the countryside here now. Cheers. Chris
Best of luck with your new beginnings, it's always great to have a fresh start, thanks for your support watching the videos, and ride safe!
All good info Del, I had one of these Motobatt batteries on my last bike and I was well chuffed, the cranking power definitely went up, RSMF.
Ayup Skeggy... I noticed that too, spins the motor like a top, which inspires so much more confidence once the snow comes! Ride safe matey!
Thanks for this video, I had a dead battery this morning and on the back of this video I have ordered a Motobatt from M&P for delivery tomorrow.
Even though I do 60 miles a day the battery wasn't holding the charge and when the temp went below -1c last night it killed off the charge. Thanks for your honest videos, very useful.
+Red Thunder Good move mate, the Motobatt is a good cheap alternative!
A very thorough presentation. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I WILL get one...i find if i ride my daytona 12 based fighter after my 12 bandit .the triumph just wants more and delivers it in a brutish rip your arms off way which is great..it also scares people...wheress the bandit is comfy quiet flying sofa experince which i also love...i guess the tiger is a mix of both worlds..cant wait..Masive respect to your time making vids and replying to comments and all the forum stuff ...You deserve only great things...
Cheers Springy, you're very kind mate... it's all good fun and worth every minute, as it's brought us some amazing friends around the world... thanks for joining the forum mate, and taking the time to contribute, it's much appreicated!
Hello I decided when I bought my bike last year was to buy but keep a Motobatt Battery. Seeing your video I decided to take it out of it box Charge it up because its been in the garage shelf and fitted over the Easter weekend. Thanks Del.
Great advice throughout, and a nice bit of kit that. Nothing worse than bump starting a great lump of a bike on a freezing cold, wet morning. How do I know? Yep, like many others, I learned the hard way!
Me too buddy... and when you live on a hill you only get one chance to get it right otherwise it's the bus to work lol!
Cheers mate, Angus Classic Bikes sold me one of these as a replacement for a dropping acid battery in a Street Triple so I thought I'd have a quick RUclips before installing it. Learned a few things!
Thanks mate, glad it helped you !
Makes my day when you upload a vid. Great one, cheers
Thanks mate, that's very kind of you to say, glad you enjoy!
Got my new steed Del and it already had pre-installed a motobatt battery so just getting a bit of a refresher on its maintenance etc.
Great video as always God bless you Del and Pen 😀
Aha a Tiger then?! Lots of potential, I had fun making The General... are you taking it to the darkside?! Keep safe my friend and have a blessed Easter weekend, ride safe, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks Del and God bless you, Mx
Bought one 4 my sportster, great battery! Had to call though ,my model wasnt listed on their site but great customer service. Couldnt be more satisfied. Del keep a watch in your mail for an Onionsack!lol Sending u something this Friday, life has a way of delaying things! Great vid and good tip on removing ALL JEWELRY when working on anything! Nothing like drawing back a nub!lol
Ayup Ron, great to hear from you brother, I'll keep an eye on the mailbox and look forward to it! ... always good to hear from you buddy, hope life is treating you over there in the beautiful mountains!
thanks again del and pen I forgot about being able to mount them laying down. this will make the little xs look a little better/cleaner happy days
Nice one Tony, still can't believe they sell 'fill yourself' batteries with little plastic bottles of acid in 2014 ... see you soon buddy, all the best, Del & Pennyx
Motobatt been using them for years utterly top shelf kit can't recommend them enough
There's always something new on your video. Keep it up and can't wait to watch the next one
Thanks Steven, appreciate you watching..
Thanks Del. Learned something new. Always take off the Negative first.
On the install the Positive first. Dummy me. Guess I've been lucky all these years. Been doing it both ways.
I think many people have, and its safe as long as you dont touch both at the same time...then it gets sparky.. thanks for watching James... ride safe.. Del.
Great info, esp. the safety tips. I follow instructions but I didn't know how great the hazard.
Very nice upgrade !!! Good info to get also. It is that time of year.
Ride Safe,,,
Cheers buddy, we hear the artic polar vortex is on it's way to the US.... keep warm and keep that beautiful Harley tucked up indoors... it's too fine to take out in the snow!
Yes, its headed this way. NO WAY will that Harley be outside !!!
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Glad to hear that brother....ride safe aye... Del.
Hi ,dell watching your video on motobatt,battery swap on a triumph tiger,my brother has one on his ducati 916,I have ordered one for my softail, these as you say,are excellent batteries,especially for big vee twin engines, needing good cranking power,best wishes mike 🇬🇧
Good choice Mike, thanks for your feedback.
Hi Del. I love all your videos. Very helpful. Just wanted to mention that your battery is not gel filled. It is an AGM battery. (Absorbed Glass Mat) Glass mats are soaked in acid and pressed against the plates. This is different to a gel filled product. In general, these batteries should only be used in the upright position unless the manufacturer says they can be used on their side. They are maintenance free and valve regulated. This means they won't go bang if overcharged. A valve will release like a pressure cooker. You will be able to see the valves on top of the battery. Round circles in the plastic top. Still a great battery but not quite as top tier as Gel. Gel is still filled with Acid but the acid is suspended in a special Gel that goes hard. This means it can not spill even if the battery cracks and as you say, can be installed upside down or on its side. Just thought I would mention it. Cheers, Lee @ Exide.
Thanks Lee, nowt like the word of the experts, cheers for the set straight..
I have learnt way more from you than you will ever learn from me Del! I look forward to your vids every week. Simply brilliant.
Lee Allen
You're very kind Lee, this is why i love YT so much, we can all learn from each other and in so many ways, ive lost count of the things ive picked up from viewers who work in specific fields and have expert knowledge, you can't buy that kind of learning in any school... thanks for watching and taking the time to get in touch, glad you enjoy the videos mate....ride safe aye... Del.
Completely agree with everything here, I've been using Motobatt batteries for a few years now, always very pleased with them. Cost vs quality nothing touches them.
Too right, have yet to have a problem with one, and yet to match the price on one with any other known brand !
Moonfleet41 anything that can easily hot start a 900 Ducati after a petrol station stop can't be bad, those big high compression twins take some power to start.
I must admit it del..for the extra £12 - £14.. more.. Depending on what size you need.. They are by far a better battery. Top vid as always.. and good safety tips!! Took me back 22 years ago when i had just started out on motorbikes and I arked my 1st battery doing a change over.. A lesson learned once and never forgotten since. It bloody hurt and blew a few things on the bike.. took me ages to sort out.. lol. ride safe... now winter is upon us once again.. is it me or did summer go quick this year??.
I think summer did go quick this year as it still feels like it's raining from last winter... and some of the flood areas where we live still haven't recovered ! Bloody global warming, I blame HAARP ....!!! Ride safe fellah and enjoy the winter riding!
Just bought a CBR 600 with 20k running original battery. Slow at firing so going to change the bat. Gonna try one of these. Good video
Thank you so much !!!!
I have learned a lot from your video I just bought a triumph tiger and the battery was playing games , bought an optimiser but no way battery is 5 years old.DEAD!
Thank you again
Could you do a video on brake pad or suggest an upgrade ? Ihave a tiger 800 2015 a basic one and i feel the brakes could be a bit more responsive. I just bought it and the Bike has just been serviced so brakes are good! Saw few video and everybody says that brakes are not really the best on this bike. Just wondering if there is something better then the original one!
Anything i can do?
Thank you appreciate ur reply and thank you for your time
I replaced my factory fitted battery (yuasa) with Shido LiFePO4 last year. Cost me nearly 3 times more than the acid battery which Triumph sells here in India but a worthwhile "upgrade". Bike cranks much faster and battery drain is a lot slower too. Spec is the same as the battery you installed on your bike.
nice bit of advice Del, notice the Caponord struggling a bit to start when not used for a few days. Next stop e bay.
Regards to Penny and ride safe!
Sure thing buddy, you can charge them up, put them on an Optimate, or even take them indoors and charge them for a week, but you're only prolonging the inevitable! Good to time to invest in one just as it turns colder, gives an amazing feel of confidence! Ride safe, mate, Del & Pennyx (btw excellent bike mate... imo one of Aprilia's best bikes)
This happened to me the other day on the Enfield and it might be the same on some of the Harleys/cruisers/etc: If your battery is held onto the side of the bike then check the battery strap for nicks, tears and splits. Mine broke, the battery had fallen against the chrome battery cover, melting the Earth wire and producing a sudden urge to swear lots...
Just ordered mine, help for the install tips. After 4 years with my GTX14-BS battery on my Tiger 955i returning from long business trip found it dead, even though it was connected to a charger, but due to mains power failure, the battery dried out totally. I will try the Motobatt, GS was not good, on my other bike i have an odyssey that im very happy with event though is getting old as well.
Good luck with the change, buddy - hope it all goes well!
I have just fitted a Motobatt battery a few weeks back, I have USB socket with voltmeter, it shows 14.3 volts!!, that's the extra punch right there!!
Great vid i will have a look at those bats may have to spray it black as mine on display ha ha,i do remember you fitting one on the harley but will they be ok for a 1200 as cant remember if mrs pitstop was a 883? many thanks
Ayup Peter, it's the same battery for 883 and 1200... and you save yourself a fat few bob over a genuine H-D one, as they are more than twice the price! As for the colour mate, get on EBay and buy yourself an off cut chunk of decal vinyl in satin black and wrap it round the outside - job done and won't cost you more than a fiver!
Great idea with the wrap,looking forward to next vid..thanks
Always enjoy your easy to understand videos mate. I've just bought a Motobatt for my 2012 Dyba Fat Bob and the terminals wont allow me to attach my battery leads.
I've got 90° arms that attach to each terminal but no matter which way I configure the brass fittings I cant get them to 'inside' front fit the arms as they only 'outside' front fit.
Have you come across this before?
In a previous video I fitted one of these to a Sportster, and they have the same fittings as the Dyna, namely on the front face of the terminal, not on top, and I was able to fit it just fine... is it possible they sent you the wrong battery, it's a long shot, but worth checking?? As it worked ok for me...
Congratulations on your block, really nice work. If it is possible maybe you can give us some tips on Triumph Rocket 3 (2007), these bikes do not like cold weather at all and it is really hard to start them, I will appreciate any information about it to fix this problem, anyways I am shopping now for a new gel battery to see if that will take care of the problem.
Thank you
Hi Mariano. If you mean that they kill batteries and need more amps....then you can spend a bit more money (usually just over £100) and buy a Lithium-Ion battery, they are reputed to be the best....and make sure you get the right CCA spec for your bike...after all, its practially a car engine..!!
thank you so much for the info, I will do so and then let you know how it goes....
I also have ordered a motobatt battery for my Yamaha, a good investment for the colder weather. The price was excellent and delivery in two days.
Nice one Jops.....you'll be chuffed with the way it spins it over now...much more confidence inspiring when you drag the bike out for the commute in minus 8 degrees...lol
Moonfleet41 Right on😊
Great video! definitely will be going gel when it comes time to replace the battery in the Dyna
Good choice buddy, it's worth it with a Harley for nothing more than they are 50% cheaper! And I'll bet Harley buy them in and print their name on them anyway... can't see the MoCo making batteries in-house....!
Moonfleet41 Oh yeah, I'm sure they buy them from China, slap a logo on there, and charge another $50 for them...that's the Harley way!
wyotana
Yeah i guess so, but Bonnevilles are being made in Thailand now...i guess there's no escaping it..!
Alright, Del?
Just an old subscriber here. You saved me bacon soo many times before, unreal. Really enjoy your videos.
I got this issue and dunno how to fix it. Maybe you could help.
I got a street triple 575 - 08 plate. This thing was trouble since I got it. I broke down more times than I can count.
It has its regulator rectifier and stator changed - It was faulty as they all are from the factory - common fault.
One day I tried to start the bike to go to work, the bike did not start. I'm thinking, dead battery. Changed the battery 3 months ago, and bought a YOUASSA, you'd like to think that should work fine, so it did, for 3 months, but I now got the same problem again. Before when I jump-start it, it showed me on the multimeter 14V, banging innit.
Yesterday I took the bike out for a ride, and the engine just stopped as I was riding. Pushed it back home, 3 miles :O jump-started it again. It now only shows me on the multimeter 10.5V while running.
What do you think?
Surely I cannot have two faulty batteries one after another. Worth mentioning that I disconnected my heated grips and any extras.
How can I check the stator or the regulator in order to eliminate them one by one?
Any ideas?
Kind regards mssieur :D
Hey Del, ... I bought a Yuasa (very good but not the best) battery for the Triumph last month. Cost me $89.00 over here! Just curious, do you see yourself having the same 4 bikes in your garage a year from now? ..... Paint update on the rear cowl coming soon ..
Hi Jeff, Yuasa batteries are pretty good, been around for decades... as for the 4 bikes, the Bandit is going not long after it's finished, for myself the Scrambler and the Tiger are the best combination of two bikes to cover every application of my usage that I've ever had... but I cannot speak for Penny, that's her choice, she loves her Bonneville, so who knows!... how about you?
I may consider selling the Harley in the spring. If I do, I will look to buy another but I will take my time and wait until something knocks me down. I am enjoying the Bonneville, I just wish it had more low end power. It is a fun ride though.
Vanrocco66 Sounds like a plan buddy, i remember your white Fatboy when we first heard from you.... as for power on the Bonneville..even in factory trim they can loose any harley round the streets as they weigh half as much, and can go round corners...lol
True but the difference in low end power between my 1200 and the Bonny is noticeable for sure. .... Is it possible to increase the rear sprocket to a 45 tooth and decrease the front as well? Or is it usually only one or the other?
Vanrocco66
Your Harley is 300cc bigger, but 65lbs heavier...you've taken weight off both bikes so the difference will be about the same, the weight differnance amounts to a small person on the back...plus the suspension in the Bonneville works...and harleys just dont, even my XR1200X stuggled to steer even half as good as a Thruxton...its this flexibility that makes the Triumph such a fun bike to ride...i ride mine everywhere like i stole it..all i did on my Dyna was scrape the frame and fear hedges... power is nothing without control aye..! when i get another Harley it will be 'aswell' as the Scrambler, i cant give up that swervery for anything..its just too much fun!
You can buy a 19 tooth front sprocket from TEC as a simple upgrade to gearing, and it'll give you a more relaxed top speed...but it then wont launch off the line with as much gusto...its always a trade off.! here;- www.tecbikeparts.com/triumph_parts_page4.html
Great info there Del, exactly what it says in the Harley owners manual....all I can add is if you still have a slow cranker the starter motor is suspect, and if you have a scrap metal yard near by they will give you a few quid for the old battery (lead) ;-)
I think these days you'll have a job getting any money for an old battery, i just take mine to the local recycle place...
Happy New Year Del
Greetings from Vancouver Island, Canada.
Oil coolers.
Have you installed the HD version on a Sportster?
I have a 2012, XL 1200 C, and I need to get the heat down.
Or
Do you have knowledge of similar oil coolers that might be better.
I'm needing the I tire kit and not just the coolest.
Anyways thought I'd drop a line to get your spin on it.
Thanks
Dennis
So the safest way of putting a new battery is not getting married LOL :P
Yeah, or marry a cheap old tart who wont buy you a ring...!
Nice one matey, usually get what you pay for with batteries so happy to pay that bit extra =)
Out of curiosity though why must the battery tabs be on the terminals before any auxiliary stuff?
If you haven't already found out The leads go on first because they will make a better connection with the terminals so starting the bike would be easier. Any accessories go after the main leads because you don't really need then as they aren't important.
Makes sense, thanks mate coulda told me this _last_ year ;)
Nicely done Del 😊
Cheers Boycie!
Hi Del once again a superb detailed video... Need a clarification. Can I use a 9 amps battery in my Bonneville SE. The original 10 Amps battery is currently not available in n my country. Thanks
Hi Prasad, if you're in a warm climate, and you keep the battery on a tender when not in use, or alternatively you use it regularly every day, then the 9amp should be fine... it's only in cold weather or long periods of lay up that it may struggle... as long as it's kept fully charged, it should be fine!
@@Moonfleet41 thanks for the prompt reply Del. I live in a place where it's warm all round the year. I have my battery hooked to the battery tender also. I'm happy that I can fix a 9 amps battery. You are simply awesome 👍
@@prasadk5125 ...and you are most welcome sir.. !
Ooooooooooooooooh..Tiger!!...
Dear Santa !!!
Great Vid Rock on Matey!
Enjoyed......Springy....
Ayup Springy, you know what mate, since riding this for the first time earlier this year, and 5000 miles ago, I can't stop enjoying it! It can cruise me and Penny up the motorway, hoon through the bends like a yobbo and still gave me 12's on the strip, it's the bike that just keeps giving!
Hey , how are you? me again , just to let you know that I serviced my front brakes and they are working like a champ !!! Thank you so much for all the info .
Quick question for you , Because the lack of knowledge on how to use a torque wrench , I Realized that went over the 40 N the calipers are suppose to get then I readjusted them again to the right spec with lock threat .
Do you think this can be an issue?
Just thinking that if you go over the right amount of force maybe it will never be the same if you readjust to a less force ....
Thank you for your time
Hi Mariano, You must NOT use thread lock on your caliper bolts, it can cause them to jam in there and damage the thread whne you take them out later...the heat of the brakes will bake the thread lock hard and make it solid....best thing is to take them out, clean the bolts and use copperslip on them....and buy a small torque wrench to do the job right....its a wise investment as you will use it again and again... hope that helps.. Del.
Nice video. I'm curious though, since these batteries have a extra set of terminals, why not attach the wires for the battery minder on them and not bother connecting them with the main power cable for the bike?
Thinking a out it buddy.. that means poking a second screw through the plate which will hit the first one inside..!.!!!!
These batteries are unique in that they have two sets of terminals allowing you to use them regardless if your old battery has the + on he right or left just by turning the battery around (as you did to make sure you were setting it up correctly to match your old one at 8:54).
After you have connected your battery to the bike you still have the two plugged & unused terminals in the back that are free. The manufacture actually mentions in their own videos that you can use these for accessories.
My question was, why not remove those plugs and, with another pair of screws, attach your minder to those?
A resourceful fellow like yourself could come up with the means to make a protective cover for them. Perhaps, since this would only be for a trickle charger with low voltage/amps, you can use a non-conducting nylon bolt, with a nylon washer under the head, covering the eyelets to your minder. It appears from the video there is a sufficient area on the terminal for the eyelet from the minder to make contact without the need for a metal bolt. This may then act as a means of both fastening the wires and covering the contact point. Just a thought.
OOOh the back terminals... lol... i haven't laid hands on a motobatt for a year or two and sold this bike a while ago... Yeah, of course, i forgot about the "Four" terminals...i was thinking you meant just tab them through the side hole of the one you use... and of course, you could use those back holes for any accessories connections like charger, heated suit plug, the new battery tabbed hot grips etc etc.. and just keep the main ones free for the bike only... good thinking... you see thats why i like RUclips... thanks foroyur input buddy.. take care.. Del.
I had a faulty rectifier miles from home so the battery kept charging and the acid kept boiling ! Not a good smell didn't notice till we pulled up the battery had swelled up and cracked so I guess a gel one would be much safer in this situation. Cheers Del
There is a lot of worry in batteries with them cracking, but i have to say, that in 33 years and god knows how many miles, ive never had it happen, and ive ridden some right piles of shite in my time too..lol.. have heard about the Reg-Rec issues with the big triples, guess ill keep a watch on mine... thanks Rich... appreciate you watching.. Del.
Nice video man quick unrelated question, I've "wrapped" my bike like yours any way I could make it more durable? My pillion scuffed it near the handles cheers for your time, keep it going awesome channel you've got going
Hi Tom....what about carefully pealing out a square of the wrap where it gets scuffed, just to make it neat....then just stick some actual real vinyl in its place...the proper stricky backed plastic stuff....you can buy offcuts of 'decal vinyl' from ebay for pennies, and in satin black too.....hope that helps matey, thanks for watching aye... Del.
Del , Just bought a tiger and i am shocked , the engine sounds like its going to explode and sounds awful but i am told that is the sound . I will have to get use to it or ship it for a 4 pot .
thanks for another great video Del .. just one thing.. does it really matter having all the lights on then cranking it over, I was told to have them off when starting, but I know you would have the answer. Thanks for the info & cheeRS
Lee...
Common sense tells me to have lights turned off while firing up; especially with older battery on board. Now my lights are automatic so I have no choice.
As said above mate....modern bikes have lights wired on all the time...but a bike with a good healthy battery will only be about 30% into its capacity while cranking, so lots left for a couple of bulbs...
Love the video what is your opinion in lipo battery's
Thanks, Del! Somebody once told me that a gel battery requires a different sort of minder than a lead-acid battery. Is that a thing?
Dunno mate, never heard that one... always just use an Optimate3 and it's been fine on mine!
Gel batteries can require different voltage pattern when charging but this is an AGM glass Mat battery so no different to flooded lead acid
Agm and gel are different types of battery
Awesome stuff,..just bought one off of fleabay for mine! had nowt but trouble lately and im informed its a dead or dying cell in the stock battery!! ride safe Del...bizz
Hey delboy.
My rocket 3 is hard starting atm..
Has been for couple weeks now..before this it would start just like that so..i have bought a new battery and still the same problem..i tested the old battery before i purchased the new 1 and the voltage did drop to about 9.7v on the crank up hence why i bought the new 1 coz the old was on its way out i felt..
I also have changed spark plugs about 2000kms ago..i suspect a fuel issue as the fuel pump does sound abit sketchy when priming before start..everything is there its jus cranking alot before it fires..if there is any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated..
Hi mate, just found this channel. Excellent video, well done. Just wondering, how have the Motobatts been for you guys so far? I've ordered one but not sure if I should return for a Yuasa as i''ve heard
of a lot of reliability issues.
Hi There... personally i have never had a single issue with any of the Motobatt batteries we have used. and im on about the fifth one now.. the only issues that have ever got back to me from viewers was a guy who (along with two of his mates) bought three of them that all failed.. and when i questioned him, apparently they all came from an unnamed seller on china.... so maybe they were copies or something.. but ive always bought ours from Wemoto, never had a single issue like i said, and if i ever do in the future, i know that Wemoto will stand by the warranty and replace it if its faulty..! sorry i can't be more help mate, i can only impart my own experiences.. good luck with your choice.. Del.
Hi again, thanks a lot for the thorough and detailed response. I actually ordered this one from Busters and is being delivered today. I may just keep it and see how it goes. Cheap anyway. It's for my GSX1400. Here's hoping for a mild winter! :) EDIT: Oh yeah, picked up some of that Dragon's Blood nail varnish for when I do a chain replacement - Haha.
I never did put anything on battery terminals other than being cleaned every year, but having electronics for a hobby might have biased my choice.:-)
Cheers mate, good to hear from you!
Been having a bit of trouble with my tiger battery,after looking online it seems that Triumph wiring to the r/r etc is not the best in the world, am still not sure if I have a r/r problem or if in fact triumph have set it up so it just about charges the battery,would be interested what multi meter readings you are getting off that battery specifically at idle and maybe around 3 to 4,000 revs
Dont have a multimeter mate, never had cause to use one, if your battery is more then 5 years old, there is every chance it may just need replacing....check it for voltage if you have a M/M, if you're getting anything less than 11 volts on drain down, then you probably have a dead cell..
1:03 Haha Delboy in Yoda mode "read what tells you the bike you will mhm"
Great video as always, good sir.
Ha ha, comment very kind you make...mhm..!
Hi Del, have you had any problems with the motobatt? I've just done a search as I'm in the market for a new battery and like the idea of AGM, but loads of guys in Oz have had big problems with their Motobatt's going flat or even splitting !!!!
Hi David....ive had three of these now, and not a single problem, all i can do is go by what ive found myself in use.....it spinns the motor way faster then the OE battery, even when it was new..and as for going flat...i always use a better minder as i use heated grips most of the time, and short'ish trips...plus alarms can drag them down too.... they are well warrantied so if i had any issues id just send it back.. but not had to so far mate..
hi del i have a yamaha xjr1300sp 2003 model that i need to buy new battery for i want the motobatt battery but the one for my bike is a mbt14b4 and only comes with 2 terminals NOT 4. i am running lots of acc to my old battery. i found another motobatt battery that has the 4 terminals for fitting extras to it but the size is 15mm wider this is no problem as there is plenty of room after i remove the rubber block i found in my battery box. but my question is the battery number is mbyz16h. so i am guessing its a higher amp age, a extra 2 amp i think going by the 2 types . is this safe to change to the higher one as i really like the idea of 4 terminals not just the 2 . thanks del great videos by the way love watching them
Hi John, increasing the ampage of your battery by two is no problem, but it's not necessary either, am sure there is an equivalent ytx14 with 4 terminals, all the Motobatts I've ever seen have 4 terminals... why not check with Wemoto to see if they have a 4 terminal version for your bike?? Am sure that if Motobatt make one, which am sure they do, then Wemoto can get you one if they don't already have it... after all it's better to fit the correct battery if possible... let us know how you get on, would be surprised if they don't have a14amp with 4 terminals... (by the way also, the term Quadflex on the battery name I believe indicated 4 terminals, so if the 14amp you're looking at is a Quadflex battery, then it obviously has 4 terminals... perhaps check the battery again,as they always cover two of them up with plastic caps) - once again, let us know how you get on mate !
cool vid Del as per usual :) Thanks for the tip on the alarm/battery. my new bike has an alarm, and i had thought about how to change it. but didnt mind more than that as it was changed when i bought the bike (supposedly) lol Anyhoo thanks again :)
Good to hear from you mate... thanks for watching, really appreciate it, ride safe!
+Moonfleet41 Hey Del how goes it? I was just wondering if you have any issues with your mottobatt battery? i bought one for my bike in march and it stopped working properly recently. I got in touch with the company i bought it from and they replaced it, but the current on isnt really working either. fully charged it goes up to just over 12V but as soon as i try and start the bike it drops to 5V. gonna have to try and get another battery but not sure whether to go for motobatt again, or another brand. between batteries and FI indications coming up on the dash , im going mental trying to figure it out,
+bigoz1977 Not sure mate, all i can do is tell you that ive not had a single thing go wrong with any of the Motobatts ive had... have you checked your bike with a regular Yuasa battery?... perhaps you have a bad short draining the power..?
i put my old battery back in today and same thing. i put the bike in dealer mode to see what the error was but it came up as -COO which means not errors detected but the bike wont start. few other things i will have to look at. want it running before the winter comes in.
+Moonfleet41 sorry forgot to say thanks for getting back to me so quick mate :-)
Bought one on the strength of this video, great battery
Hi Delboy, any thoughts (or experience) on these Lithium-Ion batteries I've been reading quite a bit about recently. Less weight, quicker charge times and slower drain? Apart from needing a dedicated charger, they seem like a good deal.
Im not so sure they're a good eal really are they mate?... they cost a fortune with the charger included (which as you said, you HAVE to buy), and what benefit is there other then the smaller size.. i looked at them for the current fighter build im doing, and i may go that way so i can tuck it out of sight...but its always going to be a lot of money when you can buy a Motobatt for £50...!!! had one in my Tiger for 10 miles and two years now and its like new, never missed a beat..!
What is the second set of wires on your bike. I didn't catch what you called it to make the battery life longer.
Hi There.. the second wires are for the "Battey Minder".. it plugs in while you are not using the bike and keeps the battery charged..!
Hi Del, I'm in Canada and like to ride whenever the snow stops and the temperature creeps above freezing. My bike(2012 Triumph Scrambler) won't turn over after a couple of days in the cold and stalls easily once started. The battery is old but rather than replace it with a stocker, I'd like to replace the battery with something a bit stronger. I was wondering about Lithium Ion? Do you have any experience with these? or advice?
You and Penny do an absolutely fantastic job. I've watched all of your scrambler/bonnie vids now (and most of the others, also). And while I have only tackled small projects like bar-end mirrors and a BC seat, the videos are great tutorials. My goals are to fit a lighter exhaust, the TEC shocks and prog springs (TEC won't ship to Canada, unfortunately, and I have to order from the States for much more $), and because I am short, would like to find a way to lower a couple of inches. Well enough rambling... great job and thanks for any advice.
Hey buddy.. good to hear from you... With your battery, yes the Lith Ion batteries offer one great feature... "size".. see, a regular battery cannot be upgraded to one with much higher 'cold cranking amps' because the battery itself actually gets much bigger... and then they wont fit in the battery tray for the bike... But as the Li Ion batteries are so much smaller, you can buy one for a much bigger bike, something rated for a 1450cc Harley will have a hell of a lot more CCA than your Triumph needs.. and as they are miniaturized, it will still fit in the battery box with ease... then you can pack around the battery with dense sheets of foam to insulate it from the cold too... that would certainly work for your application...
I have just taken my TEC shocks off today,. not because there is anything wrong with them, far from it.. but after 3 years with them, we have upgraded to some YSS Gg shocks, and they are awesome by comparison.. lost of money, over £500 over here.. but available from Wemoto.com, they may be the answer if they will ship to Canada, also, if you have to pay so much extra for the TEC shocks, then they wont be that much more expensive in the end... have a watch of the video we post tomorrow, and you can see them for yourself, maybe you'd upgrade to those instead...
Thanks so much for your kind support, buddy.. its good to know we have been of help all the at from England.. taker care, soon be spring..
Del.
Moonfleet41 j
hi del once again an excellent video.. all your videos are so informative.... can I fix a 14amp battery in my bonnie instead of the 10amp. it's of the same size but costs 1/4th the price.
Hi Kumara, usually a 14mp battery would be physically bigger, but if it's the same size as the 10, and the same polarity, it will be fine mate... are you having starting problems then, or using lots of accessories??
Moonfleet41 .. thanks for the prompt reply... my bike is 2 years old but has done only 1300km. battery has been neglected by the previous owner. I have starting issues with it... it has a pair of denelli led lights and data tool security system.
OK, you didnt mention the alarm, any security system will drain your battery, and it makes no difference how many amps it has, the alarm will still drain it.. so maybe invest in a battery minder so you can leave it on charge all the time and keep the battery topped up.. that will cure the issue my friend.. Del.
Thanks Del i too figured it out.. i've ordered for the battery tender charger.. Hope that,ll solve the issue..
Awesome dyi vid!
Thank you! 😊
Hi Del, I have a '16 Triumph Scrambler and enjoyed many of your videos. Thanks for sharing your expertise! Quick question for you: It's been only 6 months since I bought my bike, but the stock battery died just this morning. This week, I rode it daily until 7pm last night with no problem. My situation:
- I've been riding everyday for the past few weeks for my 5 mile, 15 min (round trip) in-town daily commute with it. So a total of 10 miles per day.
- I don't do many long rides.
- The only accesory attached to the battery is the 12V cigar jack for charging my phone.
- I had no issue turning it on in the last five mornings this week. This happened just this morning.
- I HAVE once let the battery die... This past summer I was abroad for a month without charging it.
With all the information above, do you think it is the problem of the battery or am I not riding enough? I would love to hear your insight. Thanks!
Hello my friend, it's good to hear from you... I don't think there's anything wrong with your battery, it's more likely to be your usage... it is generally accepted that it takes about 5miles riding to replenish the battery power from one start up of the engine on a cold morning and that's without any accessories included... but as you have a phone charger, they can be notoriously heavy on the battery, because rather than just powering a device, such as a sat nav, you are actually using the bike's battery as a battery charger, so it's quite juice on power...
So it's more than likely that you would need to ride at least 10miles if your phone is on charge at the same time to re-charge from your start up, and that's your entire commute.... I would imagine the best thing to do is buy a 'battery minder' of some description, and keep it plugged in when not using the bike... if you can't do this due to no power in your garage, then even just taking the bike for a good 20mile ride once every couple of weeks will be fine to recharge the battery fully, but before you do anything else, perhaps test the battery just to make sure it doesn't have a dead cell.. it should be reading almost 13volts at rest, and at least 12.5 with the engine running.... if it's reading less than 10, then you do, indeed, have a dead cell, but this could have been caused by the constant heavy use on it, and lack of charging.... hope that helps you, all the best, Del
Moonfleet41 Okay, I see how powering and charging can be different in terms of load on the battery. I'll try not to charge as much unless I go on a long ride. Gotta get a multimeter as well :) Thanks a lot for the help, Del! By the way, does the battery in this video (MBTX12U) also fit in the Scrambler?
Hi quick question I fitted the same battery - that's all good - I also purchased the MotoBatt PDC Series Water Boy Battery Charger which comes with an SAE to Terminal connector.
I hooked this up on my BMW G650GS and it doesn't appear to charge up via this connection point. Checked the fuse and it's ok. Only difference with your video is the order of the connectors on the battery terminals... I have tested the charger itself and it works fine on my spare battery. Any ideas ???
+David Benzal Hi mate, have you run the battery on the bike yet?? They come fully charged and don't need charging before first use... am not quite sure what you are describing when you say 'SAE' connector... but I just use an Optimate and connect in the normal way and it works fine... I can't really help as I don't know that charger you mentioned.. .more importantly, how is the battery working??
7 months on and the battery is still working great :)
Thanks for your reply and time
I like the way do you explain everything in your videos I have a 2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250 R and I'm going to be posting videos I like to be creative to
Thanks mate, good luck with it! Ride safe, Del
Hope you don't have the cursed Triumph regulator/rectifier problem Del!.Keep up the good work,I have watched most of your uploads with interest!
Seem to be ok so far mate, there's also the fuel pump weakness which likes to strand you in the middle of nowhere, but then all bikes have their gremlins, all in all, the Tiger is an amazing, do everything, bike... even gave me consistent low 12's on the drag strip at the Bulldog Bash! What more could you want from a big adventure barge eh?!
Great vid as ever Del - out of interest why does the main positive lead from the bike need to be the first one to connect up to the battery post, what difference could it possibly make?? Always learning great stuff from you! Cheers 'n' thanks - TMF
Its all about preventing an accidental arc accident.... if you touch both terminals at the same time "Bridge", you'll be in for a nasty jolt.....if the earth is connected to the frame...then the bike becomes a giant battery terminal....think about it, if the earth is connected, then the frame becomes part of the battery....and If you accidently arc against the frame (which is right next to it) while connecting the live...it'll be exactly like bridging both terminals at the same time....but.if you leave the earth lead till last, then you cannot arc out the live if you touch the frame...so the frame is isolated from the battery while you connect the live...then connect the live last as you cannot arc the earth to the frame..its the same polarity..... got it..?... lol Hope that helps mate.. Del.
Moonfleet41 Cheers Del for the full reply - I completely get the whole arcing risk thing (learnt the hard way on a Range Rover!), my point is, on whichever terminal +ve or -ve, why do you connect the bike main wires before any ancillaries (heated grips, etc)?? That's the ordering I don't get.....sorry about that! ;0) Lovin' your work as ever, do keep it up!! - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer
Oh sorry,,,duh.. i get it now...(told you i was an idiot..lol) Ok, you connect the power supply leads to the battery first to get the best and most direct connection....the current doesnt have to pass through other layers of steel (washers) before it gets to the power lead... just good practice mate..
just got to know if you have to keep it top up if you park up for a week or so as i don't have any power were i park the bike but i have been using a oxford solar charge thing and if i do would the oxford charge be ok
+simon deedman HI Simon, as long as you have some kind of maintaining battery minder in place then it should be fine for a week laid up buddy.. as long as your battery itself is healthy..
+Moonfleet41 thanks i think i got one and see how it goes
its funny you mention about bottles of acid... we use rob hunter batterys for our school bikes... when they arrived i was shocked that i got quite a sizable bottle of sulphuric acid to put into them... i assumed health and safety laws wouldnt allow any old bod like me to be playing with bottles of acid... if anyone is to get that style of battery be bloody careful when filling them!
to be fair to them though they work fine with all the bikes...
They do work fine mate, but the difference is they only last about 2-3yrs, yet they cost about 75% of the cost of this thing and worst of all, they can explode in a fire... it's not that the acid is explosive, as it's not, but acid filled batteries are meant to be open and vented to allow fumes to escape on hot days and if there is a fire and the pressure builds up, they vent safely, but with a sealed battery that contains acid, the pressure builds with the heat of the fire until they blow the top off, spraying acid everywhere... makes me wonder why the hell they're legal! (and before you ask, the gel batteries have no air in them, they are illed to the top and don't emit gas when charging, so if they melt, they just melt)...
Moonfleet41 i totally agree with you mate... the last bit of my comment was more of a way of saying im not picking on hunter batterys solely... as far as acid batterys go they are just as good as any of the others... for my pride a joy i would use a gel one
Hey del what do you know about the tiger 1050 triumph starting issues when hot?
Hi Curt.. i haven't had a 1050, and not familiar with any of the known issues.. can i maybe suggest the Triumph Rat forum, they have a wealth of ex[experience with all Triumphs between them, and if its a thing.. then they will have discussed it on there for sure..! Sorry i can't be more help buddy.. Good luck with it..!
Hi I am looking for new battery, and I found Motobatt in Poland with good price.
But Polish reseller have Motobatt with (Jacksonville FL and Made in China) signs.
I am worried about the quality??? What do you think?
Don't know fellah, why not contact Motobatt direct and ask if you can buy direct from them, or at least find out from them if this seller is an authorised seller???? Good luck!
Moonfleet41 I bought MBTZ10S without 'Made in China" signs and works well.
Hey, Delboy! I have question! I ride RSV Mille 1999 and the Motobatt battery screws come loose. It is a totally new battery. What should i do? Thanks!
hi there - nice one fella - been looking for a new battery - guess i know where im looking - heh - have fun keep safe- cheers Nige
Hi Nige, good to hear from you mate..
Brilliant Vid. Thank you! 👍👍👍👍👍
And sometimes it would try and fire but then cut out again? Maybe being starved of fuel? Once its going its going good.everything operates good..its just the start up..
Winter - Salt and battery lol
Great vid as usual buddy which means another week is nearly done, where do they go?
Dunno buddy, but hey, soon be Christmas...baah humbug..!
I don't often comment but don't you need a special battery charger for those type batteries?
Had three of these batteries over the years, and always used the Optimate...no issues so far..!
Hi Del, I'm baaaack lol
I've got a few weeks off starting Saturday when I get new tires, touring scottoiler and a brake strip clean (Getting a garage to do as they have the wheels off anyway and I CBFA as they're a good bunch of lads) lol. Have you ever used ACF50? I know you like the scottoiler stuff but last year I had issues on the pan with it being washed off as its water based, ACF being oil based not so much on the bandit so far (and when rubbed in creates a nice polished look).
Project lemon bandit lasted 2 months before I got sick of it, not impressed with plastidip to be honest, blaze yellow faded quite quickly into the frost yellow, so when I get the RT12 I'll be getting professional decals done (plus "emergency warning equipment" aka blues and twos) for the local blood bikes.
Also going through the process of RoSPA so I can ride for staffs and shrops blood bikes (I just do fundraising and dispatch at the moment). My instructor is insanely smooth and fast (ex police examiner for 20 years and IoM TT racer). Learning so much from him about how to ride the bike but I learnt how to look after my bike thanks to your videos. If I ever find a sound setup I like within my helmet for vlogging you'll defiantly get a big shout out
Hi Mark, sounds like you're having fun mate, and a worthy cause too.
With the ACF50, yes ive used it in the past, but its not right for bikes, if used on a motor it cooks on and cracks off...then when you do want to clean off the crap, it takes paint with it in worst cases....also on cold parts it sets like wax and takes parafin to clean it off again, its never good to leave a bike dirty all winter with so much salt about, if the weather gets through (and it will) then it festers till you get to clean it in spring, then you have horrible corrosion....
Best route if you want a bike that still looks nice in the spring is a daily pre-ride coat of WD40 and a weekly clean off with hot soapy water, and re-apply.... that way you keep a watch on the damage that the winter is doing every step of the way and can deal with tiny chips as the appear... many will praise it...but usually those who dont care to clean thier bike and want an easy solution...
Ride safe buddy, and dont place too much praise in fancy qualifications, certificates make rubbish body armour..!
I gently pressure washer the 'safe' areas of the bike every 2 weeks anyway, then get the sponge and muc off on the rest of it, trying to keep it in 'show' ready condition for any stalls I attend on behalf of SSBB, does mean I'm very busy anyway.
And when he first told me all the things he'd done I took it with a pinch of salt (I remembered the FRO) until he did a commentary ride. He was seeing and dealing things I hadn't even considered looking for lol. The certificates aren't good body armour, but the training to get them can be if they aren't used arrogantly (He accepts constructive criticism from me which I find amazing considering his experience and my lack of in comparison). We got on straight away because the first thing he said to me after listing everything he's done was "they mean nothing without experience., and even less on the slab". I Didn't think RoSPA had such realistic instructors or whatever they call themselves these days.
Anyway, have a great and safe winter, and look after yourself and pitstop. I'll try and pop up now and again when I'm not rushed off my feet with everything lol
Hello, I am French and I use a MotoBatt MBTX9U battery for my motorcycle (very good battery)
I would like to know if it is possible to use the two + terminals and the 2 - terminals
+ and - on one side for the general supply of the motorcycle
and for example the + and - on the other side for accessories
thanking you in advance
Best regards
Bonjour monsieur, thank you for your message, and yes indeed, you can use those extra terminals for anything you like... that is why they are there... just be conscious not to overload the battery with directly wired parts, anything too heavy should go through a relay, which I'm sure you know, but to answer your question, the extra set of terminals can be used for accessories!
@@Moonfleet41 Good evening sir,
Thank you for your reply.
You confirm my thought, so I am reassured.
I will be able to use the other two terminals for the accessories,
the only problem that remains for me to solve is to find a seller of the kit
supplementary
" MPT2-K Motobatt Terminal Kit because in France it cannot be found."
Concerning overloads, I am very aware of it, there is no problem for me
thanks again
Best regards
put one in my SFV, dead easy and works really well!!
Good to hear from you Aryel, glad you found this up-grade too, are we gonna see you at The Ace on 14th??
Moonfleet41 Found it thanks to you, ye the 14th sounds good, cant confirm for sure yet , but i hope so.
Hi dell just a quick question this battery you have would it work in my Yamaha YZF R6 2001 has I need a new one cheers bro
Yes mate, just order the right one for Your bike...
Where did you get this battery again I need one for my bike!
+MuYa437 Search eBay and your bike spec...they'll have one..!
Did you have to charge this battery???
No buddy, they are sent out ready to use... you can top it up if you wish, but it'll work straight out of the box..
Thanks!! What say about lithium batts?
Got one in my Street Fighter.. never let me down, and never caused a single problem..!
hai ...I am looking for a good battery for my Harley fatboy .. the stoke battery is not good ..please advice a good one..
Why not use the one in this video Rajesh.. the Motobatt batteries are great for Harleys, just order the correct specification for your Fatboy.. Good luck with it.. Del.
do you have a video on replacing the tiger alternator?
NO buddy, never needed to do it... so sadly, don't have a video... good luck with it !
ok is this guy physically in the UK or US? i looked for bike license plates to tell but found none lol
Accent doesnt give it away then..?