I think the reason that one can created such a loud sound was due to overpressurization or being shaken up at some point. So for me it begs the question, what would it look like to see a line of soda cans where 1 randomly is shaken, as well as every other can being shaken or overpressurized. Bet it would cause some whacky deviations, so I'd probably set up somer extra protection around the sides if you guys end up doing it. Subscribed now btw.
1-12 twist=55 grain and below. 1-7=almost any weight. The projectile length+barrel twist rate combo is what causes key-holing mid air, not the m16 nor the 556 cartridge as a whole.
My SP-1 has a 1:12 twist barrel and can’t stabilize a 62gr bullet so I can only shoot 55gr. So if it is a Vietnam Era M16 that’s probably why it Keyholed.
And going back 150 years, I have a 1830's marksman's muzzleloader, that is a percussion bullet gun, with an incredibly fast for the era 1:12 twist. It shoots a 300 grain pure lead, 1.25" long bullet with deadly accuracy, but over 500 yards, it can tumble end over end.
If it's a very early model m16 like the ones the vets were talking about that was terrible, thoes ones had a 1:14 twist rate extremely slow for how light a round it is. I'm sure the rifle they are using is probably the one that was slightly better with the 1:12 twist but still not the right round weight for that twist rate. My long barrel mossburgh MMR hunter is 1:8 and my shorter eagle arms carbine sized ar15 is a 1:7, but they are both great for heavier rounds and do alright for lighter ball rounds.
What's interesting is your rifle would stabilize a 62gr cup and core bullet, I know I have a 1-12 that does, but if you shoot green tip, they hit the target tumbling. Also a 1-9 will stabilize a green tip, you don't need a 1-7 until over 75gr.
@@wymonwatson1309 it's not so much bullet weight that matters. It's bullet length. A lead 62 gr may stabilize relatively fine. Lead is heavier, so it can be made into a shorter bullet. M855 projectiles have a lot less lead. The only real dimension one can change in a bullet and remain the same caliber is length. It was actually more important to them to have less lead and mimic the profile of a 77 gr cup and core. The penetration benefits were a happy accident.
The note about how Guard Dog's construction of Level IV ceramics is very impressive, never considered spalling and evacuated material from different brands of ceramic plates to be so drastic.
I've shot a large variety of calibers. All the 556s, 25 cals, 7mms, 6mms. I'll take my 30.06 any day. Can I shoot 1000 yards? Nope, not that good. BUT out to 700 yards, you would be in danger. I have a per '64 Winchester model 70 in '06, a Remington 700 BDL IN '06 and my new favorite rifle in '06....a Savage Axis. I have an installed muzzle brake, a trigger kit and a Vortex Crossfire 4x12x50 BDC scope. I can kill milk jugs all day at just shy of 500 yards. I have more invested in the pre 64 Winchester by itself, LOTS MORE than I do in the Savage setup. I love my 06s.
The rifling of an M16 A1 is 1 : 12 suited for 55gr M193 ball. To stabilize the slower 62gr you need a faster twist rate, the minimum being 1 : 10. 1 : 7 is the standard twist rate because it’ll stabilize 55gr, 62gr, and 70, though it is ideal for 70gr Sierra Match King. (Note, spacing in the twist rates is so RUclips doesn’t think I’m typing a time stamp and turn the text blue)
@@buckiesmalls Since the end of WW2 US folks have been told so many different things were allegedly "communism", that's it's somewhat understandable, that they're really confused about what it actually is and don't understand that there is a difference between the ideology of communism and the historical attempts to apply that ideology on societies. To many conservative people from the US "communism" is "everything I don't like", just as "woke" has become their term for "any movement to change society in a way that I don't like".
62 grain green tip will not stabilize in a Vietnam era M16 because the twist rate is too slow. M16's of that era were either a 1/12 or 1/14 twist designed for a 55 grain M193 projectile. M16's of the GWOT had a twist rate of 1/7 to accommodate the 62 grain SS109 projectile.
@@gabewrsewellyes. But at the same time I never get tired of him absolutely dunking on communism. Bully communist sympathizers until they finally give up. They obviously don’t respond to logic. So bullying it is. I’m not saying BHS should be political. It’s fine that they aren’t. But nick has his thing and I’m for it. He is also in the process of getting his degree in history and combats these idiots to their face in academic environments. So they both have their time and place.
The 62 grain 5.56 is tumbling because the Vietnam Era M16 has a 1-in-12" twist and won't stabilize anything heavier than the Vietnam Era 55 grain bullets. Had the range been longer you'd have had trouble just hitting the watermelon with that combo. The introduction of the 62 grain M855 ammo was what prompted the change from 1-in-12" twist rifling to 1-in-7".
@@corwintipper7317 It was the M-16 A2 in the 80s. I don't recall exactly what year it was, but the A2 got a longer stock, a badly designed pistol grip, an adjustable rear sight, new handguards, and the 1-in-7" twist rifling. All versions of the M-16 & M-4 that followed, other than the Mk12 SPR with its 1-in-8" twist match grade barrel, kept the 1-in-7" twist rate.
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@@mrwayne5158 No, this simply isn't an issue but this historian apparently doesn't understand why the M16A2 had a 1/7 twist barrel. That's surface level knowledge imo. Literally every one of these guys should have known this lol.
I don't want to be that guy, but. XM193 would be the correct round for the retro AR15 (1:14 or 1:12 twist). The scope Carlos is most known for using is a Unertl. Leatherwood/Hilux makes a replica that isn't too expensive, nor too poorly constructed, if you wanted to get closer to what he had. The version of the Model 70 that was closest to what he used was the Model 70 Target rifle, which can be spendy (One on SimpsonsLTD recently for $3500 and change). I always enjoy your work and new content from you always makes my day better. Thanks so much for posting.
@nermalsturf yeah, he should just let them be ignorant and look like idiots. In fact, him being THAT guy prevents other people from seeing this video and being misinformed about something that most people know as common knowledge.
@@brigidtheirish It absolutely isn't common knowledge for the vast majority of people, but he needs to correct wrong information in a demeaning way by using incorrect information on just how ubiquitous the information is.
Old guns to most people is a muzzle loader or old black powder cartridges such as original 45-70 that is 45 caliber 70 grains black powder! The guns used in this are still modern that use modern ammo!
It is kind of shocking to think about how old the modern guns are. The basic concepts (including simiauto rifles) are over 100 years old, there has yet to be a practical replacement for it even in all that time.
That was my first thought. Yes, it's an old M16, but it's still firing the 5.56 round which 99% of modern ARs also fire so there's literally nothing different about that. 30-06 is also a round that is still quite common. I was hoping for muzzle loaders, maybe an original trapdoor with original 45-70 loads or something. These are somewhat old guns firing the most common rounds still available. I mean, you can just take a modern 20 inch AR and it would do the same thing as the M16. The only difference is the twist rate of the barrel.
Loved my SP1 back in the 80’s,traded in 93. And yes I was amazed that while practicing shooting targets in light brush that the bullets would keyhole after hitting blades of grass or leafs.
So new respect for PewView i know he can shoot but the fact he did it with the 30-06 that im sure he doesn't use all the time was pretty impressive. That was a good shot on the coconut. Being able to time it out in frame and everything not an easy ask. I love the ballistic highspeed guys too, and we got to add a Nick just great.
They are using the wrong ammo for that m16, it has a 1:12 twist rate which is designed to take 55 grain ammo, not 62 grain, that is why the rounds are tumbling.
Since you guys have some great slow mo cameras, you should’ve tested the 5.56 destabilizing from hitting grass myth, using the vietnam era twist rate and bullet. Here’s a free idea, you guys rock!
I am subscribed to at least 5 gun channels and the Slo-mo guys for years now. Why did it take so long for you to show up on my feed. Better late than never, I guess. I get to go binge watch all your vids now. Good stuff!👍
16 Years old, when I went to the war, to fight for a land fit for heroes. My first song was Winged Hussars or Lion from the North. Quickly fell in love due to my enjoyment of history. I wasn't even a fan of metal, didn't care, but the music just hit right.
There's an interesting mechanical difference in the velocity that the water and alcohol can "get out of the way" that isn't related to the boiling point difference - the alcohol mixture is compressible (water isn't) and thus it can transmit the shock in a more elastic manner that should actually be visible if you set back up and drop '06 through a 91%, a 71% and a rinsed and just water filled bottle. 100% isopropyl alcohol also only weighs 785g/L so can carry a much faster acceleration from a shock but as you saw the 91% (~820g/L) expands surprisingly quickly. also, empty plastic isopropyl bottles make EXCELLENT diluted dish soap bottles for the sink
Even a .50 BMG will yaw after hitting a target. I'm curious as to the barrel twist on that Vietnam era M16 Clone..it'll shoot 62gr rounds, but if the barrel twist is 1/12 then it's only supposed to stabilize 55gr.
Assuming that is a Vitenam era M16, it would either have a 1:14 (early M16s) or a 1:12. Neither one of these do well to stabilize a 62 grain projectile. You would need at least 1:10 twist in a 20" barrel to stabilize it (marginal) and as the barrel gets shorter and less velocity, you will need a faster twist. Such as the modern adopted 1:7, 1:8, and 1:9.
I live in a country where gun laws are insanely strict basically nobody has one and the only time I’ve even seen one is on the armed police in airports but for some reason I still love watching you destroy stuff 😂
So you're telling me this video was made by 4 guys who all run gun youtube channels and not a single one of them was aware that the M16/M16A1 had a 1/12 twist barrel that will not stabilize 62gr rounds? Come on dudes, that's surface level knowledge imo. I really would've thought that at least Nick knew that.
62gr projectiles are period correct, that's the whole point here. The m16 was setup to fail as the department didn't want it and changed things so much it pretty much ruined what Stoner designed.
@samuraidriver4x4 no tf they aren't lol, m855 wasn't introduced until 1982, way after Vietnam, and it was used with the M16a2, who had had a 1/7 twist rate, which is much more ideal for a 62 grain bullet. There were a lot of complaints about the m16a1, but the 62 grain round was never used with it in vietnam.
@@samuraidriver4x4No, 62gn greentips are not period correct. 55gn M193 ammo is period correct for Vietnam. M855, or greentips as they're commonly known, weren't a thing till the 80s. By which time the M16 had been updated to the A2 variant which had a higher twist rate barrel that could actually stabilize the heavier projectile.
Modern 30-06 is the poor man’s 300win. Unpopular opinion. If you want 1 bolt action rifle that can hunt any medium to large game in North America (within reason.) 30-06 will do it. From deer to bares moose and elk. It gets it done and can be a good precision/“sniper” round for the average folks who aren’t paying for 300 win 338 LM 300norma or 6.wizzbang whatever tf. 30-06, shot guns and revolvers are under rated. And under appreciated
They make the theory sound very attractive. Then you experience what it actually means in practice. It's kind of like someone saying we need to control population growth. Then you realize they are referring to shooting pregnant woman in the back of the head.
@@gk5891 To be completely fair, that would help combat the issue. It'd just be a really sick and twisted way of doing things, but it would produce results.
The M16 is designed to fire the 55 grain round. The rifling is not designed for the 62 grain and causes the round to be unstable. Try the 55 grain and you'll see a huge difference.
That is the reason I still for a battle rifle is the m-14 with modern polymers and a little work could make the m-14 badass. I still love my A3-03 its just plain nasty
I worked with a Vietnam vet in the early 90s. He was in the service when the switch from the M14 to the M16 happened and he hated the M16. He said about the M14 "when you hit something, it just went down."
Any AR-15 pattern rifle built before the year 1974 is considered a C&R , amusingly enough. This is because the requirement for C&R, unlike antiques (with a set date of 1898 and earlier), is only that the weapon be 50 years or older.
"But.. the ARrrrrrr... " derp derp... always makes me chuckle (in a sad way) when people are scared of 223, when my dad's old Rem 742 deer rifle should be way scarier.
My dad did his part to curtail communism during a 2 year paid vacation in the far east between 1951 and 1953 and helped more than a few heathens to their Valhalla. He didn't talk much about his experience other than wading through human shit and piss fertilized rice paddys holding his Garand over his head while pushing dead, bloated bodies out of the way with his chest while flies covered everyone's faces. While being under fire. One thing he did talk about freely was his M1 Garand serial no 800900 and how brutal the 30.06 round was and how often that platform saved his life. When something literally saves your life repeatedly, it's not difficult to understand why it achieves god status.
I say let’s go farther back in time and see what a old flint lock rifle like a Brown Bess, a 1861 Springfield Rifle musket, and a 1884 trapdoor Springfield Rifle to see what it would do against modern body armor. Although it probably wouldn’t do much, but it would still be cool to see how these old black powder and big bullets would do.
I'm sure someone else has stated this but I don't feel like scrolling down: The M855 Keyholes from a 1 in 12 inch twist barrel because its too heavy for it. 1 in 12 is the sweet spot for 55 grain ammo.
Now let some scrawny sjw tell you that wasn't real communism XD Never understood how they can tell actual victims of it that it wasn't the real thing. Fleeing starvation and oppression is about as real as you can get with communism and still live.
The bullet was NOT stabilized, which means that the barrel twist could be the wrong one for the 62 gr bullet. It could be that the barrel had a fast barrel twist like 1:7, which can cause the bullet to yaw. You may be manufacturing facts to fit your narrative/video.
Yep. Also most bullets destabilize when they hit shit. Also the m16 had many problems, early on. One example was not being able to heat-relieve the barrels.
The opposite is true. Faster twists stabilize heavier bullets. That barrel probably has a slow, 1:12 twist and is unable to stabilize bullets heavier than 55gr.
@@Sidekick_Snowman yeah all bullets destabilize when hitting a target, especially typical rifle FMJs at high speed. M80 ball from an M14/M1A would have behaved similarly when hitting the “ear.”
Awsome work fellas, watched Nic's vid, pews, now yours loved your footage, seen some of your videos before that you did with someone else, you have a new subscriber. Thanks for helping Nic prove those shots were possible. Never had any doubt about Gunny Hathcocks accomplishments. Please dont ever stop. Semper Fi
Buddy when I saw you take a freaking rocket to the face and are still here to tell about it. One couldn't help but be a fan of your channel . You guys rock !!!
You should take the black tip and have it reloaded to modern .30-06 spec or in a .300 win as they are the same diameter and see what happens in slow mo. If I remember right, the black tip is a light load, so it wouldn't damage the op rod on a garand.
Fat Electrician (Nic) the M16a1 is a great rifle. You have to use the correct ammo. It's rifling requires the 55gr. Bullet. It shoots the bullet that it was designed for just fine. The later M4 and other variants have different rifling and require different ammo.
You guys need to make a short with the part about how they want to ban 5.56/.223 and not 30-06, while comparing the 2 rounds. Thanks for the video. Another great one!
30-06 is a really good caliber. I got a Husqvarna 1640 30-06 as my main hunting rifle. I shorted the barrle to 22" and put a Stalon whisper silencer on it and it work so good.
Check out the full recreation of the Carlos Hathcock scope shot here! ruclips.net/video/oWy3hWqpeFU/видео.html
Do yall throw the patreon episode on pepperbox?
I had to re subscribe?? spooky.
I think the reason that one can created such a loud sound was due to overpressurization or being shaken up at some point. So for me it begs the question, what would it look like to see a line of soda cans where 1 randomly is shaken, as well as every other can being shaken or overpressurized. Bet it would cause some whacky deviations, so I'd probably set up somer extra protection around the sides if you guys end up doing it. Subscribed now btw.
Congrats on passing 800k! You guys deserve it and 10000x more.
I hope you both reach the 1,000,000 million mark soon.
You've deserved it for a very long time.
that coconut trickshot is probably the coolest real slowmo footage of someone shooting that ive ever seen, its really like a movie man
Absolute highlite of the videao
Yes, the coconut slowmo was so unique
Insane shot
I have to agree about that coconut shot, it was like time was frozen until the bullet ripped through, AMAZXING SHOTT!
I agree that should just be a whole program
1-12 twist=55 grain and below. 1-7=almost any weight. The projectile length+barrel twist rate combo is what causes key-holing mid air, not the m16 nor the 556 cartridge as a whole.
Ikr??? Why no XM193? 855 is notorious for lackluster terminal ballistics.
1/9 shoots 62's just fine as well as 69 HPBT. I have been for years.
It's either the twist rate or the rifling in that particular barrel is fucked.
ah you see thats not the car and gas that is bad, its just engine and octane number.
PewView acknowledges the issue when they bring out the Radian rifle.
My SP-1 has a 1:12 twist barrel and can’t stabilize a 62gr bullet so I can only shoot 55gr. So if it is a Vietnam Era M16 that’s probably why it Keyholed.
And going back 150 years, I have a 1830's marksman's muzzleloader, that is a percussion bullet gun, with an incredibly fast for the era 1:12 twist. It shoots a 300 grain pure lead, 1.25" long bullet with deadly accuracy, but over 500 yards, it can tumble end over end.
Damn, beat me to it. Lol I think we're gonna see a LOT of people commenting this 😄
If it's a very early model m16 like the ones the vets were talking about that was terrible, thoes ones had a 1:14 twist rate extremely slow for how light a round it is. I'm sure the rifle they are using is probably the one that was slightly better with the 1:12 twist but still not the right round weight for that twist rate. My long barrel mossburgh MMR hunter is 1:8 and my shorter eagle arms carbine sized ar15 is a 1:7, but they are both great for heavier rounds and do alright for lighter ball rounds.
What's interesting is your rifle would stabilize a 62gr cup and core bullet, I know I have a 1-12 that does, but if you shoot green tip, they hit the target tumbling. Also a 1-9 will stabilize a green tip, you don't need a 1-7 until over 75gr.
@@wymonwatson1309 it's not so much bullet weight that matters. It's bullet length. A lead 62 gr may stabilize relatively fine. Lead is heavier, so it can be made into a shorter bullet. M855 projectiles have a lot less lead. The only real dimension one can change in a bullet and remain the same caliber is length. It was actually more important to them to have less lead and mimic the profile of a 77 gr cup and core. The penetration benefits were a happy accident.
The note about how Guard Dog's construction of Level IV ceramics is very impressive, never considered spalling and evacuated material from different brands of ceramic plates to be so drastic.
30-06 teaching people the difference between cover and concealment for more than 70 years.
118 years really
I've shot a large variety of calibers. All the 556s, 25 cals, 7mms, 6mms. I'll take my 30.06 any day. Can I shoot 1000 yards? Nope, not that good. BUT out to 700 yards, you would be in danger. I have a per '64 Winchester model 70 in '06, a Remington 700 BDL IN '06 and my new favorite rifle in '06....a Savage Axis. I have an installed muzzle brake, a trigger kit and a Vortex Crossfire 4x12x50 BDC scope. I can kill milk jugs all day at just shy of 500 yards. I have more invested in the pre 64 Winchester by itself, LOTS MORE than I do in the Savage setup. I love my 06s.
And how fuzzy the line between the two can become when 30-06 enters the chat.
@@jimmywalker2429 .308 can do 1000+; .30-06 has more ass behind it with a ~25% bigger case.
@@Borderline5440 only if you have the skill. As I said I can't do 1000. But out to 750...I'm trouble for a target...
The rifling of an M16 A1 is 1 : 12 suited for 55gr M193 ball. To stabilize the slower 62gr you need a faster twist rate, the minimum being 1 : 10. 1 : 7 is the standard twist rate because it’ll stabilize 55gr, 62gr, and 70, though it is ideal for 70gr Sierra Match King.
(Note, spacing in the twist rates is so RUclips doesn’t think I’m typing a time stamp and turn the text blue)
Yes
Looks like it works!
Came here to say this
The fact he hit the coconut with that gun in frame is crazy
It's nuts
@@PsycordeI see what you did there!😉😄
One second in and Nic is already talking about communism 😂
And doesn't even know what it is. Typical.
I just want to go back in time to a point where politics weren't in every aspect of daily life.
@@Hawaiishelldiver Right. One of the main reasons I sub here. But here it is. Now second guessing.
@@buckiesmalls Since the end of WW2 US folks have been told so many different things were allegedly "communism", that's it's somewhat understandable, that they're really confused about what it actually is and don't understand that there is a difference between the ideology of communism and the historical attempts to apply that ideology on societies. To many conservative people from the US "communism" is "everything I don't like", just as "woke" has become their term for "any movement to change society in a way that I don't like".
As it should be.
62 grain green tip will not stabilize in a Vietnam era M16 because the twist rate is too slow. M16's of that era were either a 1/12 or 1/14 twist designed for a 55 grain M193 projectile. M16's of the GWOT had a twist rate of 1/7 to accommodate the 62 grain SS109 projectile.
What an excellent series of collaborations. This channel is doing big things and I'm here for the ride.
The .30-06 helped win WWI, was a major factor in winning WWII, and Korea. In 1971 my boot camp company shot the M-1 Garand.
Are you sure it wasn't the M-14? I thought the Garand was retired by '71.
@@blacksheep_edge1412 enblock clip.
What these plebeians can't figure out yet is we haven't won a war since we quit the 30 cal. Lost every one since Korea.
@@MrCobb-rq8iv correlation is not causation.
@@MrCobb-rq8iv what about Gulf War? That one you won
00:01 Nic brings up communism
Because the weapons they are using were used to fight communism
really reminded me to appreciate how non political and objective/science focused ballistic high speed has generally stayed, it’s much appreciated
F communists 💯
@@gabewrsewellyes. But at the same time I never get tired of him absolutely dunking on communism. Bully communist sympathizers until they finally give up. They obviously don’t respond to logic. So bullying it is. I’m not saying BHS should be political. It’s fine that they aren’t. But nick has his thing and I’m for it. He is also in the process of getting his degree in history and combats these idiots to their face in academic environments. So they both have their time and place.
@@thomasmarchese2808ok, but so you even know what communism is? I'm Polish, that should suffice
The 62 grain 5.56 is tumbling because the Vietnam Era M16 has a 1-in-12" twist and won't stabilize anything heavier than the Vietnam Era 55 grain bullets. Had the range been longer you'd have had trouble just hitting the watermelon with that combo. The introduction of the 62 grain M855 ammo was what prompted the change from 1-in-12" twist rifling to 1-in-7".
What modification introduced 1 to 7?
@@corwintipper7317 It was the M-16 A2 in the 80s. I don't recall exactly what year it was, but the A2 got a longer stock, a badly designed pistol grip, an adjustable rear sight, new handguards, and the 1-in-7" twist rifling. All versions of the M-16 & M-4 that followed, other than the Mk12 SPR with its 1-in-8" twist match grade barrel, kept the 1-in-7" twist rate.
I've said it once and I'll say it again......best gun channel on RUclips hands down.....every upload is top notch so thank you and look forward to what you guys put out in the future, remember when I first came across your page not even a year ago and since then I think you guys have 3 times as many followers so congrats on that, the way you guys are going I bet you will have 1 million by end of this year and well deserved!!!
1-12 doesn't stabilize 62 grain projectiles.
May be a historian, but not as educated on ballistics, barrel twist, etc.
Most people arent. Plus 5.56 has to many variables for a bullet. This is why most prefer the 7.62 variety
@@mrwayne5158 No, this simply isn't an issue but this historian apparently doesn't understand why the M16A2 had a 1/7 twist barrel. That's surface level knowledge imo. Literally every one of these guys should have known this lol.
@@mrwayne5158 If sticking with the Vietnam era theme M193 55 grain FMJ should've been used instead of the M855
Pushing too much weight too fast. There's a joke in there, but I just got out of utube jail and want some freedom for awhile.
What does it mean to have a 1/7 or 1/12 twist?
I don't want to be that guy, but. XM193 would be the correct round for the retro AR15 (1:14 or 1:12 twist). The scope Carlos is most known for using is a Unertl. Leatherwood/Hilux makes a replica that isn't too expensive, nor too poorly constructed, if you wanted to get closer to what he had. The version of the Model 70 that was closest to what he used was the Model 70 Target rifle, which can be spendy (One on SimpsonsLTD recently for $3500 and change). I always enjoy your work and new content from you always makes my day better. Thanks so much for posting.
Doesn't want to be that guy, yet proceeds to become THAT guy 😅
@nermalsturf yeah, he should just let them be ignorant and look like idiots. In fact, him being THAT guy prevents other people from seeing this video and being misinformed about something that most people know as common knowledge.
@@anameofsomesort959 Uh, who knows this kind of detail about historic guns as *common knowledge?*
@@brigidtheirish It absolutely isn't common knowledge for the vast majority of people, but he needs to correct wrong information in a demeaning way by using incorrect information on just how ubiquitous the information is.
@@Chillz_OG What you just said makes *zero* sense.
"I basically converted it to liquid" - Every Ballistic High-Speed video
You’re not wrong!
That coconut trick shot was SO COOL.
I've watched all three channels' takes on this and am suitably impressed by all of y'all. What a stellar set of collabs! Thank you very kindly.
Communism
Communism
Communism!
*Nic magically appears behind me*
It's Iowa State Fair season. He also responds to "Corn, Buttercow, Turkey Leg" for the remainder of the month.
Remember if ur not making fun of communism ur not doing it right
@@25xxfrostxxadd in 'funnel cake' and everyone's checking their calendars
Autism
Autism
Autism 🎉
Stop it
What an epic collaboration!! I started with the scope story and had dessert here on this video. Amazing guys! Thank you for doing these!
Old guns to most people is a muzzle loader or old black powder cartridges such as original 45-70 that is 45 caliber 70 grains black powder! The guns used in this are still modern that use modern ammo!
It is kind of shocking to think about how old the modern guns are. The basic concepts (including simiauto rifles) are over 100 years old, there has yet to be a practical replacement for it even in all that time.
Thank you for the comment. French Fusil D and Colonial .62 cal swamped and rifled "widowmaker" are amonst my collection.
That was my first thought. Yes, it's an old M16, but it's still firing the 5.56 round which 99% of modern ARs also fire so there's literally nothing different about that. 30-06 is also a round that is still quite common. I was hoping for muzzle loaders, maybe an original trapdoor with original 45-70 loads or something. These are somewhat old guns firing the most common rounds still available. I mean, you can just take a modern 20 inch AR and it would do the same thing as the M16. The only difference is the twist rate of the barrel.
Hell I have a russian rifle that's just as lethal and older then both those rifles put together
@@Foxhound141_67 Let me guess: Mosin-Nagant?
Nic with his Intro then being stopped by the high-speed guys, now that's a nice touch😂😂😂
Best slowmo channel with guns❤ ty Boys
Loved my SP1 back in the 80’s,traded in 93. And yes I was amazed that while practicing shooting targets in light brush that the bullets would keyhole after hitting blades of grass or leafs.
So new respect for PewView i know he can shoot but the fact he did it with the 30-06 that im sure he doesn't use all the time was pretty impressive. That was a good shot on the coconut. Being able to time it out in frame and everything not an easy ask. I love the ballistic highspeed guys too, and we got to add a Nick just great.
And the trifecta is complete. I loved seeing this from all 3 angles of the story.
They are using the wrong ammo for that m16, it has a 1:12 twist rate which is designed to take 55 grain ammo, not 62 grain, that is why the rounds are tumbling.
This.
4:28 the shockwave in the condensation on the 30-06 watermelon was awesome!
Since you guys have some great slow mo cameras, you should’ve tested the 5.56 destabilizing from hitting grass myth, using the vietnam era twist rate and bullet. Here’s a free idea, you guys rock!
I am subscribed to at least 5 gun channels and the Slo-mo guys for years now. Why did it take so long for you to show up on my feed. Better late than never, I guess. I get to go binge watch all your vids now. Good stuff!👍
8:45 this is why coconuts dont migrate anymore
9:46 - What a sick series of camera shots!
Not to mention the rifle shot! 😄
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Years old, when I went to the war, to fight for a land fit for heroes.
My first song was Winged Hussars or Lion from the North. Quickly fell in love due to my enjoyment of history. I wasn't even a fan of metal, didn't care, but the music just hit right.
There's an interesting mechanical difference in the velocity that the water and alcohol can "get out of the way" that isn't related to the boiling point difference - the alcohol mixture is compressible (water isn't) and thus it can transmit the shock in a more elastic manner that should actually be visible if you set back up and drop '06 through a 91%, a 71% and a rinsed and just water filled bottle.
100% isopropyl alcohol also only weighs 785g/L so can carry a much faster acceleration from a shock but as you saw the 91% (~820g/L) expands surprisingly quickly.
also, empty plastic isopropyl bottles make EXCELLENT diluted dish soap bottles for the sink
If you're not picking up what Nic [HUSKY electric Expert] is putting down, "communism is bad MKAY".
No it’s very good if you want to take down your own country
He also says nobody messes with America's boats but then I bring up the USS Liberty & there's nothing but crickets. So there's that.
@ruger8412 crickets about what? Israel was very quick to admit the mistake, publicly apologies, and paided compensation to those sailor's involved
Then why Vietnam win war?
The rubbing alcohol shot with the fire was epic. The table bending was crazy😮
Even a .50 BMG will yaw after hitting a target. I'm curious as to the barrel twist on that Vietnam era M16 Clone..it'll shoot 62gr rounds, but if the barrel twist is 1/12 then it's only supposed to stabilize 55gr.
Everyone has been making videos with the 20mm except you guys, this is frustrating. You are the best in quality and slow motion.
Assuming that is a Vitenam era M16, it would either have a 1:14 (early M16s) or a 1:12. Neither one of these do well to stabilize a 62 grain projectile. You would need at least 1:10 twist in a 20" barrel to stabilize it (marginal) and as the barrel gets shorter and less velocity, you will need a faster twist. Such as the modern adopted 1:7, 1:8, and 1:9.
I live in a country where gun laws are insanely strict basically nobody has one and the only time I’ve even seen one is on the armed police in airports but for some reason I still love watching you destroy stuff 😂
When they said, "historic" I thought it would be black powder so we could see what might happen when they no-knock a felon's house. 🤣
As someone who shoots a 30-06, you sold me on the body armor as well!
..."I thought of it at Wallmart"..... Good thing, you did not perform it at Wallmart 👍👍👍
Great video, as always.
Outstanding video of the shot of the coconut tossed in the air. Great job guys!
Hahahaa Nick is always a birght light of humor😂.
I love you made a video with Nick and this guy! They make awesome content as well
So you're telling me this video was made by 4 guys who all run gun youtube channels and not a single one of them was aware that the M16/M16A1 had a 1/12 twist barrel that will not stabilize 62gr rounds? Come on dudes, that's surface level knowledge imo. I really would've thought that at least Nick knew that.
Yeah that's surface level stuff, the fact that they didn't bring it up is incredibly disappointing.
62gr projectiles are period correct, that's the whole point here.
The m16 was setup to fail as the department didn't want it and changed things so much it pretty much ruined what Stoner designed.
@samuraidriver4x4 no tf they aren't lol, m855 wasn't introduced until 1982, way after Vietnam, and it was used with the M16a2, who had had a 1/7 twist rate, which is much more ideal for a 62 grain bullet. There were a lot of complaints about the m16a1, but the 62 grain round was never used with it in vietnam.
@@samuraidriver4x4No, 62gn greentips are not period correct. 55gn M193 ammo is period correct for Vietnam. M855, or greentips as they're commonly known, weren't a thing till the 80s. By which time the M16 had been updated to the A2 variant which had a higher twist rate barrel that could actually stabilize the heavier projectile.
@@anameofsomesort959 my bad, was stuck with the SS109 in my head for some reason.
Modern 30-06 is the poor man’s 300win. Unpopular opinion. If you want 1 bolt action rifle that can hunt any medium to large game in North America (within reason.) 30-06 will do it. From deer to bares moose and elk. It gets it done and can be a good precision/“sniper” round for the average folks who aren’t paying for 300 win 338 LM 300norma or 6.wizzbang whatever tf. 30-06, shot guns and revolvers are under rated. And under appreciated
I’ve seen 3 people trying to defend communism here and that’s 4 too many
It’s really starting to be a problem with how stupid people are nowadays
Smh! They must be getting paid like Biden!
If it wasn't for freedom.and capitalism they wouldn't be making money doing this stupid stuff!
They make the theory sound very attractive. Then you experience what it actually means in practice.
It's kind of like someone saying we need to control population growth. Then you realize they are referring to shooting pregnant woman in the back of the head.
@@LordHoth_90 commies aren't people.
@@gk5891 To be completely fair, that would help combat the issue. It'd just be a really sick and twisted way of doing things, but it would produce results.
Vietnam era M16s had a 1/12 twist rate in the barrels. Modern M4 rifles have a 1/7 which stabilized the round. No tumble.
The 30-06 is gods caliber
I thought that was 45
@@BouncingZeuswell in pistol caliber its 10mm
@@BouncingZeus That's the Lord's caliber.
(Before nerds say it, I already know it's the same thing.)
@@Castigar48the Lord's caliber is 45. Odin's caliber is 10 mm.
@@beardedslavbrew615 ....acceptable compromise
Watching the brassfetcher slowmo gel videos of many different calibers and then seeing the one with 30-06 put everything into perspective for me.
The infamous "Not gonna spoil it but the sponsored optic did deflect 30-06 90 degrees in an inch" after an sdi ad.
9:52 is quite possibly the coolest shot I’ve ever seen. Feels straight out of sniper elite.
The M16 is designed to fire the 55 grain round. The rifling is not designed for the 62 grain and causes the round to be unstable. Try the 55 grain and you'll see a huge difference.
Yes.
They literally say this in the video. Pay attention lol
@@thegroundhurts but they were dumb enough to do the thing in the first place. Makes no sense or it’s trolling.
That is the reason I still for a battle rifle is the m-14 with modern polymers and a little work could make the m-14 badass. I still love my A3-03 its just plain nasty
I worked with a Vietnam vet in the early 90s. He was in the service when the switch from the M14 to the M16 happened and he hated the M16. He said about the M14 "when you hit something, it just went down."
Coconut shot was incredible!!! Great video!
I could listen to nic bad mouth communism with pure facts all day long.
The Hornady Super Performance is considerably hotter load than the M2 Ball (30-06) used in the Springfield 03 and M1 Garand.
Saw "old guns" and expected flintlock or some old paper cartridge guns :(
Any AR-15 pattern rifle built before the year 1974 is considered a C&R , amusingly enough. This is because the requirement for C&R, unlike antiques (with a set date of 1898 and earlier), is only that the weapon be 50 years or older.
It is good to see Adam is healed and having fun. ❤
"This is your brain on COMMUNISM..." absolutely based intro.
5.56 is great until the trees start talking. 🤠
The soda explosion from the 30-06 was freakin rad. Some crazy physics as the soda acted like a cinder block
3 seconds in and I'm already Laughing my ass off. Awesome job to whoever edited this video. Nick is freaking awesome
Bloody heck that mid air coconut shot was epic!!
I expect to see Remi here soon.
Agreed. Seems like she is slowly making a name for herself in the gun Tube world.
@@DutchTraveler our cute Gun Goblin.
@@plotfinder5640 basically.
I really enjoyed seeing how much the coconut moved from the first second/ milli second of that shot
"But.. the ARrrrrrr... " derp derp... always makes me chuckle (in a sad way) when people are scared of 223, when my dad's old Rem 742 deer rifle should be way scarier.
My dad did his part to curtail communism during a 2 year paid vacation in the far east between 1951 and 1953 and helped more than a few heathens to their Valhalla. He didn't talk much about his experience other than wading through human shit and piss fertilized rice paddys holding his Garand over his head while pushing dead, bloated bodies out of the way with his chest while flies covered everyone's faces. While being under fire. One thing he did talk about freely was his M1 Garand serial no 800900 and how brutal the 30.06 round was and how often that platform saved his life. When something literally saves your life repeatedly, it's not difficult to understand why it achieves god status.
My dude the "lectric lard ass" baby!!🎉
I've said it before about some of you guys, but you guys together look like a good time.
I say let’s go farther back in time and see what a old flint lock rifle like a Brown Bess, a 1861 Springfield Rifle musket, and a 1884 trapdoor Springfield Rifle to see what it would do against modern body armor. Although it probably wouldn’t do much, but it would still be cool to see how these old black powder and big bullets would do.
That coconut shot Was pretty sick. 💯
Finally seeing the Fat-Man shoot???
I'm sure someone else has stated this but I don't feel like scrolling down: The M855 Keyholes from a 1 in 12 inch twist barrel because its too heavy for it. 1 in 12 is the sweet spot for 55 grain ammo.
Do you guys think nic likes communists?
He might have a slight rivalry with them
Bunk mates in undergrad from what I understand
He likes his commies like he likes his fascists....old and fricking dead!
Yes the dead ones.
He might take umbrage with the entire ideology as a whole
A most well deserved Hell Yeah, Son!
Just think, young people will be looking at you the way we've been looking at Jerry all these years.
Our family fled Communism.
I can confirm that this is a good representation of your brain on Communism.
Now let some scrawny sjw tell you that wasn't real communism XD
Never understood how they can tell actual victims of it that it wasn't the real thing. Fleeing starvation and oppression is about as real as you can get with communism and still live.
From Iran thanks for your great video ❤
If you're claiming to be a gun historian, one of the most basic knowledge is that the Vietnam era M-16s don't stabilize 62 grain bullets.
The coconut shot was amazing!
The bullet was NOT stabilized, which means that the barrel twist could be the wrong one for the 62 gr bullet. It could be that the barrel had a fast barrel twist like 1:7, which can cause the bullet to yaw. You may be manufacturing facts to fit your narrative/video.
Yep. Also most bullets destabilize when they hit shit. Also the m16 had many problems, early on. One example was not being able to heat-relieve the barrels.
The opposite is true. Faster twists stabilize heavier bullets. That barrel probably has a slow, 1:12 twist and is unable to stabilize bullets heavier than 55gr.
@@KB3AOL length not weight a 50 grain all copper wouldn't stabilize in that 1:12 either
@@Sidekick_Snowman yeah all bullets destabilize when hitting a target, especially typical rifle FMJs at high speed. M80 ball from an M14/M1A would have behaved similarly when hitting the “ear.”
08:04 SICK... you can actually see the shadow of the shockwave, just before impact!!
The footage was cool, but these guests are dumb and bad for your clean image.
Tankies being mad gives me life.
Awsome work fellas, watched Nic's vid, pews, now yours loved your footage, seen some of your videos before that you did with someone else, you have a new subscriber. Thanks for helping Nic prove those shots were possible. Never had any doubt about Gunny Hathcocks accomplishments. Please dont ever stop. Semper Fi
The editing around the coconut shot was insane!
Buddy when I saw you take a freaking rocket to the face and are still here to tell about it. One couldn't help but be a fan of your channel . You guys rock !!!
You should take the black tip and have it reloaded to modern .30-06 spec or in a .300 win as they are the same diameter and see what happens in slow mo. If I remember right, the black tip is a light load, so it wouldn't damage the op rod on a garand.
Pretty cool stuff. I don't think anyone expected the 30-06 to be beaten by the smaller round. Impressive footage.
Wow! That is some of the most amazing slomo footage, and great experiments, bar none!
Great vid collab!! Proud to be one of the 30-ish percent of subscribers!!
Another great video. Nice shot on the cocoa nut!
Fat Electrician (Nic) the M16a1 is a great rifle. You have to use the correct ammo. It's rifling requires the 55gr. Bullet. It shoots the bullet that it was designed for just fine.
The later M4 and other variants have different rifling and require different ammo.
You guys need to make a short with the part about how they want to ban 5.56/.223 and not 30-06, while comparing the 2 rounds.
Thanks for the video. Another great one!
You gotta love Nick's consistency.
30-06 is a really good caliber. I got a Husqvarna 1640 30-06 as my main hunting rifle. I shorted the barrle to 22" and put a Stalon whisper silencer on it and it work so good.