Neil Young vs. Lynyrd Skynyrd | Music's Greatest Mysteries
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2020
- When Lynyrd Skynyrd released "Sweet Home Alabama", was it really a diss track towards Neil Young?
In the 1970s, Neil Young started writing protest songs against the south including "Southern Man" and "Alabama" with the lyrics "Now your crosses are burning fast, Southern man" and other lyrics pointing out racism in the South, slaveowners, and the KKK. Many Southerns were outraged by the lyrics and one band decided to fight back. Frontman Ronnie Van Zant decided to escalate the beef by responding to Neil Young with what may be the most famous diss track of all time. They fired back with the Southern rock anthem, "Sweet Home Alabama" and an entire verse pointed at Neil Young. The lyrics were "Well I hope Neil Young will remember a southern man don't need him around anyhow". But was the hatred real or just for show and inspiration? We take a loot at the rivalry on Music's Greatest Mysteries.
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I’ve heard after the plane crash Neil played Sweet Home Alabama at his show. Back before social media when we could politely disagree. I love em both.
Neil’s song Powederfinger was also written for Skynyrd. They were going to record, but Ronnie died.
Now the douche canoe is trying to have Joe Rogan cancelled.
Southern Rock & Roll will last forever through Lynyrd Skynyrd.
It carries on even heavier through bands like Maylene and the Sons of Disaster
I was listening to the radio when I heard about the crash that day ..I didnt know who was lost and who survived until the next day . Steve and Cassie were from my home town and we knew them cause they lived just down the street from my grandmas house . God Bless them and rest in peace
There was no actual feud between anybody. Ronnie respected Neil immensely in fact. It was just a smartass lyric in a smartass song.
true a lennon mccartney feud. all is good
Great lyrics in a great song written by a great songwriter.
And Neil got the joke immediately and also it was Ronnie smartly using the media hubbub about it to get more attention for his band! Social media 40 years before social media lol
Exactly this rumor was debunked long ago.
I am sure he would hate him now.
I've "always" wondered about this feud. Thanks for covering this!!
Ronnie n Neil never let their musical talents get in the way of what became a very admirable friendship n respect for ea. other. It just sad n unfortunate thaty Ronnie's life was cut short.........
That lyric never made any sense, he’s criticizing racism in general not the south. Love them both
Young was also a Canadian lol
The video says this
2:25 specifically
Neil Young said that song Powderfinger was written for Lynyrd Skynyrd and he sent demo tape to Ronnie who apparently agreed to record it for the next album (after Street Survivors).
I read that Ronnie turned it down
@Mario Martin Martinez or were
It would have been great to hear that song played by Lynyrd Skynyrd!
@@greglapointe1311
Myth.
A Canadian and boys from Florida battling it out over the South. How funny...
Dude! That's my man! This is actually a big deal for me, because I love Ronnie Van Zant! I'm from Georgia/Northern FL and Lynyrd Skynyrd was my favorite band, them and the Allman Brothers. My mom's side were all from Upstate NY. When I was little I told her brother, my uncle, I was a skynyrd fan and he said he preferred Neil Young and that I should listen to Southern Man and told me about this feud. It really confused me and I was torn for years. Sure there were some confederate flags in the South but there's so many good people of all different types there. I've really seen a lot of diversity and a lot of harmony there, much more than other places in the country. Nowadays several of my NY family members are openly racist. Go figure! Anyways, I knew Ronnie Van Zant was anti-racist. I think he would have surprised many people with his wisdom if he had more time on this earth. You don't write like that with hate in your heart.
This. Didn’t Jesus once say “First, remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye”. Regardless of whether you are religious or not, it’s good advice. Don’t criticize others of which you yourself are guilty.
*Neil Young logic.
Justin Trudeau wears black face, therefore Neil Young, being from Canada is obviously a blackface enthusiast.
What's funny is he didn't just do it once, he wore blackface multiple times. Justin Trudeau genuinely likes dressing in blackface.
I'm a huge fan of both Neil Young and Skynyrd.
Lynyrd Skynyrd forever 💖💖💖💖💖 until the end of my life 💝💝💝💝Edgar from Belgium 🇧🇪
I live in Kentucky and like many of our people in the South I love Skynyrd and at the same time I love Mr. Youngs music. In fact in my top 5 greatest guitar players of all time I place him at number 3 behind Randy Rhoades at number 1 and DimeBag at number 2🤟
You put Neil at number 3? Along side of Randy and Dimebag? How the heck is he in there with them lol
@@angelone1839
Well check out Neil's catalog of music.
Bigger than both Rhoades and Dimebag combined.
@@artvallejos1460 pretty sure it is, but I'm talking guitar skill wise.
@@angelone1839
All 3 have different styles. Neil's is more versatile, variety, valuable, from easy guitar to difficult guitar. Neil a better overall musicians, take note, guitar, piano, banjo, harmonica, organ, etc....
Also frontman for numerous bands.
Networth $200,000,000.
Turn it up
When I play Southern Man (on guitar) I sing it in the same key as Sweet Home Alabama, so I cut to the other, pretty cool to do.
Both are important to culture
Both songs = Rock N Roll
Skynyrd and Young are both brilliant. What a fabulous CD that could have been.
Skynyrd was a more intelligent human!
Young is brilliant? surely that's the reason he cancelled himself on Spotify for trying to censor people unlike he always advocated for "freedom", or the reason he sold the rights to his music after advocating so much about not selling out to the system, but the real IQ test is the praises he gives to the senile tool that is now the US POTATO... about his music, freaking 80's metal bands have 100 times more composition and interpretation skills than this sad excuse of a musician, what the f is that "voice", sounds like a sheep "singing"... Neil Young, the idol of the people who will like just any tacky crappy product the industry pushes on them
@@artzreal Separate the art from the artist. Fuck his hypocrisy, but his music lives on
@@milkboi2386
Skynyrd is a band not a person
Neil Young gave Skynyrd Powderfinger but they didn't have time to record it - they loved each other
My fav artist and band respectively
Skynyrd the greatest rock band ever
Crazy Horse!!!
@L S
If it wasn't for Neil Young
Sweet Home Alabama
would have never been written.
Tuesday's Gone With The Wind.
@@artvallejos1460 That is true and SHA is maybe their greatest song.
That all that needs to be said.the greats band ever
Everybody everywhere check out Neil Young and Crazy Horse live vrs Lynyrd Skynyrd live.
I’m from Canada and skynyrd is my favourite band . Not a young fan at all actually .
I do have to say, everyone has their own option on everything in life. Though, did love to hear this
AWESOME
Truth hurts. More musicains should have stepped up & followed Youngs lead & spoken out against institutional racism which is still prevalent in America today, & not only in the south.
There’s a song titled “Ronnie and Neil” by drive by truckers
I liked this song when I was young till a family member told me it was racist and I shouldn't listen to it I watched Forest Gump the other day and this song was played so decided to do some research whiched lead me here glad it's not what I was told it was so now I can play this classic to my hearts content
It isn’t racist. Quite the opposite, in fact. If anything it denounces racism, as Young apparently stereotyped the South as being made up of nothing but racists, when their were good people like Ronnie. So Sweet Home Alabama was a rebuttal.
Let me tell you something...let me tell you true...what might be right for me....might not be right for you...you live your way...ill live mine...and I hope you're happy..all the time....RONNIE VAN ZANT......shame the world don't live by these words ANYMORE....
I Was Born To Rock I'll Never Be An Opera Star.
Poor response. The best response would have been to acknowledge the bad history but to praise the good things about Alabama. Nuance is difficult for the big audience to grab but a simple message saying "We're not all bad." would have been good enough.
That's how I point out black culture in America to those who are stuck in an angry mindset. We have been through a lot but we have made so much that makes us unique to other black people around the globe. Southern cooking, HBCUs bands, football, slang, dress, etc. I say all that to just say that we can acknowledge the bad history, work towards improving, and acknowledge what has been created from those bad times.
It doesn't matter where your from. It's what's inside that matters.
Happy 73rd Birthday Ronnie! We all miss you!
I imagine what you could be doing now.
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Neil Young is brilliant. As for the song Southern Man, I love it. The part that gets to me is when he sings about Lillie Belle. She visited York, PA, with her parents and younger sister from Aiken, SC. Her sister was driving and turned the car onto Newberry St., looking for a grocery store, when she saw a man with a gun leaning out of a second-story window. Multiple members of two all-white gangs, the Newberry Street Boys and the Girarders, were on the street that night, and many were armed. Dickson began to turn around at the intersection of Newberry Street and Gay Avenue, but the car stalled.
As more armed white men started coming onto their porches, Dickson panicked. Her parents, who were in the back seat, began praying. Her older sister, Lillie Belle Allen, jumped out of the car to get to the driver's seat and take the wheel. She flailed her arms, screaming, "Don't shoot!" Multiple shooters opened fire from the street, rooftops and windows, fatally wounding Allen. Over one hundred rounds were fired at the car, and several bullets shot Allen. A state of emergency was called the next day. I always think of her on my birthday, July 21, since that was the day Lillie Belle was killed during the York riots of 1969. I was born seven years later in New Orleans. In 2001, ten men were arrested. Seven reached plea deals, and three went to trial. Two were found guilty of second-degree murder by an all-white jury, and a third, former police officer and York City Mayor Charles Robertson, was acquitted. Four other members of the gang responsible for killing Lille Belle committed suicide in 74, 79, and 88 and on April 11, 2000, Donald Altland, 51, committed suicide, a day after prosecutors interviewed him about Allen's death. Before killing himself, he recorded two tapes, one in which he described Allen's murder and the other in which he begged his family for forgiveness. Before shooting himself, he wrote on a napkin, "Forgive Me God." Lucky for him, there is no God.
This isn't the same Lilly Belle that Neil sings about in Southern Man.Sorry Sweetheart.
There was never no feud of theses songs ever , but some rock n rollers who took it very seriously had their own fingers up you know what, in the 70s back then
Man, take a minor quibble with Skynyrd answering a couple of Neil Young songs and drop some dramatic music behind some people talking about it and it sounds WAY more serious than it actually was. LOL.
I’m building a guitar from wood from the Hell House original Dock, and foundation from Hell House, and incorporating metal from the plane. Once it’s complete we will loan it out to touring musicians so those timber’s will continue to sing and vibrate. LLLS.
Long Live Lynyrd Skynyrd.
...SouthernFried Rock & Roll...
God bless you Neil Young. Rest in peace Ronnie Van Zant.
Initially a misunderstanding. Grew into a deep friendship.
These two were actually friends. And they wanted to make it on Songwriting
It’s only rock ‘n’ roll but I like it like it yes I do
Ed King is pro George Wallace. Everyone seems to leave that out. He thought he stuck up for the average white southern man. He is a cowriter so its worth noting. So i wouldnt say its as simple as this. King contradicted Van Zants explanation of the song. As for who actually wrote the line and knows what theyre talking about who knows. Probably Van Zant since their current band cant write a song half as good as their songs from the 70s with him.
Skynyrd best band ever,,FREEBIRD!!!!!
Best Band is pretty subjective. It's like arguing what's the best favor of ice cream
@@richardleewagner3939 Nope,I said to me,and I'd say it proud,and yes,Im from the south,there's a bunch that believe it to!!!
@@midniterider6656 *you post cringe bro*
@@djdhsjjwkefkw you think
"Well I heard Mr. Young sing about her
Well I heard old Neil put her down
Well I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around anyhow
Swee Home Alabama"
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Alabam You Got The Rest Of The Union To Help You Along.
Neil Young.
i hope neil young will remember - a southern man don't need him around anyhow
Alabam You Got The Rest Of The Union To Help You Along.
I recalled Neil Young being and feeling complemented by having his name in Sweet Home Alabama
Everyone including their Mothers can say what they want. But Ronnie van Zandt stated how he felt about the situation and Neil young. And I do think Neil young was generalizing the south. Good for standing up.
people who make up non existent controversies piss me off..so there!
Yet most people know of neil young and go who? When those other blokes are mentioned. All good musicians. Love them all.
Neil Young known worldwide. Millions of fans waiting for his next move.
Neil Young hasn't been minding his own business for quite some time, apparently.
That politics mate, worryingabout the enterity of the society you are in instead of just yourself, I you fell something is wrong and unffair, there is nothing more noble than to express it, mainly through art.
Minding his own business as black men and women were being lynched
@@rodrigocosta3764 neil does it well
Good.
Ronnie wore a Neil Young Tonight’s the night t shirt on the street survivors album cover. Neil wrote Powderfinger for Skynard to record but then the plane crash happened.
if you use head phones when listening to Sweet Home Alabama you can hear Al Kooper (producer) singing southern man during the neil part
If you play Abby Road backwards, You can hear someone Say "Paul is Dead"
Yes, you can barely hear it, even on the radio, if you listen and are waiting for it. Kooper wanted to do it all throughout the song, and more noticeably, but Ronnie wouldn't go with that, and you notice is is not prominent at all in the form released
Southern Man vs. Sweet Home Alabama sound like a hip-hop battle to me.
What does the lyric “a southern man don’t need him around anyhow” mean?
Ronnie is completely right don't judge everyone from the south
Neil Young invited Skynrd to Farm Aid. So this beef 🥩 was over a long time ago.
@Mario Martin Martinez learn how to spell "were"
@Mario Martin Martinez Illiterate keyboard warriors really scare me.
Listen to the Drive by Truckers song Ronnie and Neil. Good summary.
Neil is the best! ♥ He can admit, if he is(was) wrong. "And for what it's worth, Young came to regret the song that started it all. "'Alabama' richly deserved the shot Lynyrd Skynyrd gave me with their great record," he wrote in his memoir, Waging Heavy Peace, in 2012. "I don't like my words when I listen to it today. They are accusatory and condescending, not fully thought out, too easy to misconstrue." Peace
Neil Young live long enough to show his true colors. He went from speaking out against the establishment to demanding that those who criticize it be silenced.
Not really
criticizing the establishment and blatantly lying public about public health issues are not the same thing.
@@bobdick815 when did Joe Rogan lie about public health issues?
@@snakey934Snakeybakey
feeding bugs to people can cause health issues.
My mom went to school with Neil Young in Winnipeg MB
Not quite right. Focus on their “mysterious” verse “Watergate does not bother me / Does it bother you, now tell me true” - they sure as hell weren’t thinking of Watergate. That’s an obvious sub for something somebody felt they could not dare put in there. What word would work in this verse? What’s Southern Man about? Think.
I definitely dont agree with Niel I'm a Kentucky born boy but Neil was a talented writer. And I would have loved to hear the songs that they would have wrote together
Lynyrd Skynyrd >>>
im racist tho
Neil's songs were not just about the racism of a few, but mostly about the laws in southern states, where the civil rights were not the same for the black people. The Civil Rights Act was signed a couple of years before, in 68, but things didn't change so fast actually, for the southern white men.
Also, the song uniting Neil Young and Lynyrd Skynyrd exists : It's Powderfinger. But the band never had the opportunity to record it, you know the story...
I'm a huge Skynyrd fan, and would have been really cool to see how they would have done Powderfinger. Not sure Skynyrd would have beaten Young's version. And I'm not a big Neil Young fan. But Rust Never Sleeps is one of my all-time favorite albums because of Powderfinger
I love Skynyrd and Neil ! One thing I do know is Skynyrd fans are ROWDY A.F. (still) I love it!
Lynyrd skynyrd unas de las mejores bands de rock que a esistido con Ronnie van zand no la imitasion Que tienen ahora con El hermano
Or as Gary Rossington would say about Neil Young, "He's from Canada, so what does he know about the south no how." lol
Neil's Mother's side of the family had many ppl in the US, and in the South. As a little kid, Neil's family would regularly take summer trips driving down through the US to Florida
@@blindriv3r Yeah, but Neil wasn't from the south. I think that was Gary's point. Just saying.
Neil Young still Rockin after all these years.
@@artvallejos1460 That he is!
this aged well HAHAHAHAHHA
A Canadian from the north talking about the southern USA is like a overweight person talking about their vegetarian diet!
I 💟Neil Young. ☮️💟
Both bands were progressive in their politics.
Neil Young is a brilliant songwriter and a performer. I really enjoy his artistry.
Outside of that, he’s just like most of his ilk, a hypocrite.
How so?
Well said !
@@atzengruber Hypocrite? Nah, he puts his money where his mouth is. Ask Spotify.
@@guerrillajack1451 he puts his money where his mouth is, like when he sold the rights to his music after all the talk about not selling to the system, or like when he tried to censor Rogan after all the talk about freedom?
@@artzreal
Don't mention Neil Young and Rogan together. Neil makes music. Rogan makes people eat bugs and worms.
Matt Pinfield!
I bet Neil Young never turned down one dollar from a fan south of the Mason Dixon Line....
And there were plenty south who went to see him. So it's a beat up.
Skynyrd is the best American band of all time
They're german ackshually
considering ohio came out after southern man.
As big Ronnie fan (have a tattoo) I never really like Sweet Home Alabama. It always sounded like a pop song.
The racism of a few?? Racism, especially back then, was downright institutionalized! Birmingham, Alabama: never forget.
Alabam You Got The Rest Of The Union To Help You Along.
I’d love to hear the modern story of the feud between Neil Young and Joe Rogan. I mean it’s not really a feud because Joe couldn’t care less about a has been, but seriously. Let’s hear Neil’s story of virtue signaling in the modern era.
There's a story told by Joe Rogan working as a security guard at a Neil Young concert. He talks about it on his Instagram.
Don't mention Neil Young and Rogan together. Neil makes music. Rogan makes people eat bugs and worms.
"There are "things goin' on" that you don't know." By Lynyrd Skynyrd
Propaganda is “Think of the mainstream media as a great stage on which government can play.”
A southern man don't need him around anyhow! who who the black man coming around not young...
Uh Young is a Canadian.. if you traveled down south in the 1970s you were greated everywhere with Beauty and kind people , the most of the rich Northerners changed everything
The wrong person died.
Neil Young still Rockin.
How bout you?
“Ohio” has some of my favourite guitar licks
Neil Young is sounding just a bit pretentious to me.
I love Ronnie and I love Neil who cares Rock on
Both Rock!!!!
Neil's protest against racial hatred & white supremacy seems absolutely ON POINT again after the January 6th insurrection at the United States Capitol. THAT's classic art.
Facts
But it wasn’t ‘’the few’’ it was and is the majority or at least a big minority, but definitely not ‘’a few’’ Him saying that’s, tells us all what he really means!
Young wrote powder finger for Ronnie to sing
Battle Flag will live on as long as I live
... Confederate Flag?
I live in Indiana and my ancestors fought in the 7th IN cavalry. But I put a bust of Stonewall on my mailbox in reaction to the removal of statues of Confederate generals. I don't care what anyone thinks. It's wrong to take down those monuments .
@@Cincinnatus1869 "I don't care what others think"
Do you think?
@@richardleewagner3939 I think so
@@Cincinnatus1869 Buhahaha.
How come you don't have any video of Neil Young talking? I would of liked to hear what he has to say now that Ronnie is no longer alive. I love Skynyrd and I feel Neil young isn't even on their level!
HEY WHAT'S THAT SOUND ...... ?
Stephen Stills song....not Neil, Neil only did the guitar on that
Pretty brave of Neil Young to come from Canada and denigrate an entire region AND Joe Rogan
rogan makes people eat bugs and worms. Neil makes music.
@@artvallejos1460 yah... cat music
@@chrisdalpetz2284
Neil =$200,000,000 networth.
how bout you?
I love both, but Skynyrd can kick ass and make soft songs. Neil Youngs heavier music just isn't the same.
The same guy who invented grunge? The same one.
his music is dull and his voice is complete crap, he only made it because "don't underestimate the power of stupid people in big numbers"
Ever hear Neil "Goin 'Home " multiple live versions on RUclips.
Check out "Down By The River "
Live with Phish. Rock.
Just curious... I'm only familiar with a few Skynard songs... did they ever write any pro civil rights songs? Just asking...⁉
Probably not
The south is still like that… the confederate flag is a racist symbol on par with the nazi flag. He also says on the song sweet home Alabama “now watergate does not bother me, does your conscious bother you tell me true…”. Dude was a Nixon supporter and Nixon is the one who implemented the the “southern strategy” I.e near overt racism to appeal to racist southerners and bring them to the Republican Party. That is where the parties flipped. Skynard is as typically southern as anything else. I’m from the south and the majority of white southerners are indeed overtly or subconsciously racist. It’s plain as day
EXACTLY
skynard was right. we dont need Neil young around.
Alabam You Got The Rest Of The Union To Help You Along.
This is Neil Young gangster crip on mine, dont ever slide through 53th street with a Lynrd Skynrd shirt of or they gonn get 30 off of this 40
Listening to the lyrics, and none of them referenced fucking family members. Neil Young and Lynyrd Skynyrd would never do that. Where did this rumor even come from?
Neil young sabotaged the plane
Lies.