Exploring & picking a lockable socket
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
- This is an MK socket with a key operated switch to allow authorised users to power items.
The way they've achieved the key-switch function with standard electrical components is very impressive. But can it be picked?
The part number for this MK socket is K2949BSS if you have a use for one. They're quite expensive due to being a specialist component.
For reference, the key is marked 92304.
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I saw the Lock Picking Lawyer buying an ozone generator last week, this is getting interesting.
I wonder if he is going to see what happens when you touch the bristles with say tus metal file.....
Will he draw a schematic?
@@ernstoud Will he ask for "One moment please." if he does?
Lol !
I’m waiting for the day LPL buys a battery operated ‘lemon squeezer’.
That's all I have for you today, Lockpicking Clive
Or Lockpinking Clive
😁
Handy save on electric
Let's abuse that cheap Chinese multimeter again because it's not a Fluke.
Ha ha 👍
LPL needs to put a 'one moment please' in his next video.
And 'watch your eyes'.
I'd love to see @LockPickingLaywer respond to this vid by our LiveClive and some collabs develop... 🙏
Since his videos have been 90% shameless advertisements for years now, there are only 1 or 2 lines in the script that are not self promotion. No room for references to other channels
... and where's famous schematic wiring?!
@@dotonthehorizon9620 I didn't remember seeing him ever advertise things
Try picking the part on the left,
"im getting a little tingle out of one"
This made me laugh harder than it had any right to xD
Even the original key looks like it may fit in the socket. Better not try to unlock it in the dark.
@@mahekorvenoges550I assume like all British sockets, you can’t insert anything into either mains pin unless you first poke something into the earth pin hole.
@@JasperJanssengood thing they include two keys
Hey wrong channel for this you need Electro bones Channel to almost guarantee this!
That's a pretty smart design. Not only does it re-use mostly standard components to achieve something out of the ordinary, but by doing so, it keeps the average lockpicker from connecting live to ground, possibly through him or herself.
I hear if you put any lock in a dark room and chant "Lockpicking Lawyer" three times, there's a non-negligible chance it'll open on its own.
If its a Masterlock, it will melt and fall apart.
@@michaelmoorrees3585 can confirm this is true
I heard once a year on final appeal Fridays, the Lock picking lawyer gives a free tutorial on handcuff lock picking.
you will hear first : click out of one,two is binding, nothing on three ....
Make sure to say it another time to make sure it isn't a fluke
Useful to prevent someone accidentally switching a socket off, or on, but unfortunately it doesn't prevent the cleaner from pulling the plug out in order to use their vacuum cleaner. But then again, neither does a big label saying DO NOT REMOVE THIS PLUG.
Oh yeah, saw that a few times
Heh, good point. I can imagine an external cover that when locked closed would hold the plug in place, with a gap for the cable to easily pull through. Honestly should be rather easy to implement, I would be surprised if this hasn't been done plenty of times before - both professionally and improvised.
This socket would still be good for *disabling* a socket though - assuming there isn't another socket near enough to make it pointless.
Some strategic removal of insulation on the plug can go a long way to keep that from happening.
Happens in hospitals with life support systems.
I really wonder about that actually happening to any critical systems
Next on the Lock Picking Lawyer we back engineer a 2 quid reindeer light from Temu!
As the soldering iron first hits it just falls apart after into a schematic, instructions for how to make it run on USB and a set of annotated PCB pictures. Somehow the original still works.
@@bethaltair812Or you can just buy a USB soldering iron (yes they are a “thing” and do work for light electronics work).
What is a lpl
@@penguin44ca ruclips.net/channel/UCm9K6rby98W8JigLoZOh6FQ
@@penguin44calock picking lawyer a RUclips channel
I can't be the only one who clicked on the video without paying attention and was surprised to hear Clive's voice, and not the LPL
Lock Picking Bear, the surprisingly well performing third channel.
LPB at it again! lol
Long time picker and locksmith here. What a pleasant surprise to see Clive raking a lock! Well done!
That was less a rake and more a hammering lol
oh my, did not expect that cam and switch.
No specialized switches, no single use devices at all, common socket, common switch and well, a custom cam. If the switch fails, get one off the shelf and pop it in.
Beats trying to get a replacement on a holiday for one with some off the wall customized internals, requiring total replacement of plate, socket, switch and one's GI lining from indigestion. But then, I'm biased toward easy field repair, rather than needing to order a specialized component, as those always fail on holiday weekends on something mission critical, like my television power outlet.*
*OK, more in tune with my luck over the decades, the damned refrigerator outlet would fail, right after a major shopping trip filled the freezer to capacity.
Surprised here too !
Extra points too for being a two pole switch.
I don't work on a lot of receptacles, but at least in US, I find about 10% of whatever I come upon is wired backwards.
I laughed loudly at the reveal. Was not expecting it to be that simple.
@@benjurqunovyes that would be correct oftentimes Things Are miswired oftentimes hot neutral reverse if you're lucky and someone hasn't put hot on the ground I've seen it before but not very often same with neutral and ground reversed again not very often.
Main thing commenting on here is one of the lamps that I had purchased for my place I'm glad I decided to upgrade the socket to a three-way socket I was not aware that the lamp from the factory was Wildwood reverse polarity side note I am in the United States.
And of course this lamp had a modern polarized plug.
For those unaware of this the reason for the specific requirement for lamps to have a polarized plug of course ungrounded ones is so that the switch is in the hot wire and also the screw shell portion of the socket and of course the screw shell on the bulb would be connected to neutral part of the idea behind this is that it's much easier to accidentally touch the screw shell then the bottom of the socket and also with the shoe shopping neutral connection less likely to get zapped.
By the way on The Old Edison face fuses the what would be the hot terminal for a bulb socket would be supply side of things and the screw shell would be load due to similar reasoning.
Have seen quite a few times just a standard bulb socket being used as a fuse holder.
Food places where I've lived that required doorbell Transformers to be fused and oftentimes you'll find a light socket sometimes even with a pull chain switch used as the fuse holder for the doorbell transformer!
Sometimes deliberately using one with a pull chain so as to be able to turn off the doorbell if you have things going on like people deliberately ring doorbell and running I think they call it ding dong ditch nowadays put back in the day not sure if there was a name for it
Even when they weren't confused I'd seen switches connected to the doorbell transformer sometimes either in primary or secondary circuit.
Oftentimes in farms and Barnes and stuff you might see a second white socket somewhere in one of the areas just as fuse holder as well sometimes even using this as the switch.
Saw this once where they had the green and white shades on them in the chicken coop the switch for chain was just outside the door of the coop and yes it was intended to to be used as a fuse holder farmer told me when they first moved in there was scratching their heads why the lights are not working in the tube and realize that this was supposed to be used as a fuse holder when he checked and found it was wired in series what's the chicken coop lights.
There was a similar setup for the electric fence controller.
Except there was a pilot light and a regular standard switch however there were poles throughout the place and even the switch in the house on series and all pilot lights for in parallel my guess was for a safety system or otherwise and the old electric fence Energizer the ones that are no longer permitted.
Basically just a interrupter and a high voltage Transformer.
Does ones like you hear about if someone gets across the electric fence not being able to let go until the power is disconnected.
My grandparents told me about this
Mother remembers as well.
Roderick fence controller was actually in the garage by the house.
The old one was still there apparently used as a backup but I would never use this in modern times too dangerous!
I do remember you almost couldn't get any radio reception on the farm without the constant click like every second or so do to eat the electric fence.
Not sure if this was just due to back EMF or not some of the more common primitive and really not much filtering if any.
I'm curious why they had so many evolves on these as well never really heard as well as often times two fuses.
I'm suspecting something to do with protection regarding potentially lightning or over voltage had seen a few electric fence Chargers at least the aftermath after a lightning strike!
Sometimes pretty much extra crispy!
By the way even Lionel that one point made electric fence energizers and a lot of other Oddball stuff including fishing poles in fishing reels.
Not to mention stuff for wartime was pretty kind of cool that it was not just model trains at one point.
There was some navigational equipment produced during certain years for military.
I can't remember but it may have been Battleship Texas or Battleship Missouri.
Where this was pointed out if you're interested at least on that particular vessel had heard about the other things before sing the video
the security is only limited by the screw head type.
Industrial strength cleverness! And now let's try it once again just to see if it was not a Fluke.
It's not a Fluke. That's a meter.
@@TartyVesthandle back in prehistory, when the Fluke 70 series was introduced, I was working at an electronic component wholesaler and we had a spif on those meters. I cleaned up, as I handed a couple of resistors and maybe a battery to techs at the counter, along with our counter sample meter and let them play with it - the meter sold itself (I knew it would, I was a tech myself and bought two). The owner initially complained that "now it's a used meter and I'll lose money discounting it and those components (yeah, he complained about the cost of a pair of quarter watt carbon film resistors), so I had him look at the sales numbers and he shut up.
I used those meters until the wafer switches literally fell apart decades later.
Darn, you beat me to it!
it wasn't a Fluke, it was an MK.... I'll see myself out
All we need now is for the Lock Picking Lawyer to carbonate a master lock.
😂😂😂
Does freezing it with CO2 count? 😅
and Tom from (Blendtec's Will It Blend?) to blend a carbonated Master lock while picking it.
They recently changed the sockets in the hallways in my building in Dublin to these after a couple other residents were caught running extensions into their apartments
How much do you want to bet the cleaners just leave the switch in the "on" position rather than constantly turning it on and off? For that application, the key needs to activate a timer so the power goes out automatically.
Mmm... free electricity🤤
@bradscott2432 unscrew the faceplate, remove the cam and reinstall. The cleaners will still use the key and will be none the wiser lol.
@@russellhltn1396Or a different mechanism that requires leaving the key in for the outlet to provide power.
How terrible of those residents!
They're supposed to cut in from the other side, run a wire to tap into the existing cabling. None would be the wiser unless the outlet failed and a real electrician came out to replace it.
Oh, was that my outside voice?
the switch inside is pretty hilarious lmao its like finding a power brick inside your soldering iron station
I still remember a desk I had at a previous job. It was easier for me to just pick the lock with a paperclip than it was for me to dig the key out of my backpack 😂
Was my only source of enjoyment at that place anyway.
My greatest source of enjoyment, similar to yours, was to pick all the padlocks on a bank of lockers, then randomly swap them around. Sometimes I would casualy loiter around on Monday morning to watch dozens of students try to work the problem out.
What a crossover, lockpicking and household electronics,wall socket picked and gutted 👌
"This is the Lock Picking Electrical Engineer, and what I have for you today ..."
Why did I read the title as "lickable socket"
Everything is lickable if you're brave (or crazy) enough.
You could I suppose, but at 240v I'd rather not.
@@igmusicandflying I dare you to prove it. Prove that Mars is lickable!
@@NeatNit You've got to take the wrapper off first.
@@igmusicandflyingDamn....missed posting the joke by 30 minutes. Good work! Hahahahaha
Maybe you should send it to the Lock Picking Lawyer to see how quickly he deals with it.
I'm guessing about 0.3 seconds with a wave rake?
it'll be open before he opens he parcel.
Probably about that long, although I suspect he'd not use a rake. I'd use my standard pick, flip it, call it a day, then put a proper lock on out of spite.
"Don't make me pick you" -> Opens in fear
@@spvillanoI reckon this would be a job for a jiggler, those tend to work reasonably well on lots of wafer locks and are conveniently the one lockpicking tool least dependent on a turning tool
First thing that came to mind was "yeah, but how standard is the key", seems that I'm not the first to start thinking about the ubiquitous CH751 key...
It is a standard key, not a 751 though. I believe you can request a non-standard key, but not sure.
@@TestGearJunkie. You know more about keys than me, but I remember using a similar key on an old house alarm panel house alarm. This was back in the day when house alarms were called 'burglar alarms'.
Lock picking. Is there anything you can't do, Clive? 😉
The Lock Picking Lawyer is pretty awesome. I've never actually tried to pick, nor do I have any tools, but after watching him for a while I feel like I would know what to do if I wanted to attempt it.
I strongly recommend getting yourself a cheap set of lock picks on eBay, and having a go with an equally cheap padlock. It raises your awareness of the need for good quality door locks.
Also a very addictive sport. Like a physical logic puzzle. Very satisfying when they pop open. You can also easily make your own (thus customizable) tools. A short piece of coathanger bent at the end, smashed flat, and cleaned up with a file, makes a great tension wrench. And the wide bobby pins called roller pins make excellent pick stock.
Just about every common lock I've seen can be opened by raking.... it's pretty sad. You CAN try picking each pin, but when raking works so well almost all the time it kinda' gets.... boring? Pointless? Terrifying? hehehehe
@@sometimesleela5947 I use the metal stiffener bit from old windshield wipers: most have a nice stainless-steel 3-4mm wide, 1mm thick flexible steel core inside the rubber. Pulls right out. Use a small file to add a tooth for picking.
@@bigclivedotcom Sad thing... in some places (Like Canada) it is illegal to have lock picks unless you are a licensed lock smith...
Nice use of that switch internally!
Yes, I was surprised, I'd expected a standard Micro-Switch style to be there.
@@cameradoctor205 if it were from china I'd expect the key to be the part that completes the circuit.
I originally thought it was to keep something on. But that would require some mechanism to keep the plug locked in place. So it makes sense after reading some comments that these are for shared hallways where it's for the cleaners to plug in vacuum cleaners without George running his space heater of the buildings power with 20 extension cords.
It's rather meant to be used at public places where they don't want random people to use the sockets.
My favorite part of this video is that very satisfying click that switch makes. Love it. If you can't tell from some of my comments on this channel I love switches that make nice satisfying clicks. I've used some switches as a fidget toy. LOL
Wafer locks are generally pickable by anyone. There's not much to them.
One thing I do like is the way you can earth the metal panel/lock body. That is good thinking, and keeps the zapping bits well away from the finger-poken. That said, encouraging people to prod metal objects (keys) toward power sockets is... not smart.
1:37 "Reckless Bear smashing in random directions"
glorious
Ohhh we so need LPL to now do an electronics teardown video :P
"Teardown video (with schematic) using a piece of coke can"
@@oohshiny8713 coke can and a piece of string, with the handy assistance of ElectroBOOM...
When I refurbished my house, I used all top end MK switches and sockets….that was 12 yrs ago, not one single issue with any of them…quality gear….👍👌🇮🇲
You forgot to do it a second time, to show it wasn't a fluke.
Or better yet, pick it using a multimeter to show that it _is_ a Fluke!
(To be honest, I'd bet it'd be quicker and easier to just rake it open, though..)
Definitely a well built and well engineered item only for Certain Personnels to use high powered items.😎👍💯
wafer locks, easiest to pick.
I'm surprised you didn't say that's I have in this, thanks for watching and have a nice day.
Got a super cheap filing cabinet given to me, it had the absolute worst lock in the known universe. Wafer lock with all wafers already aligned, save one, the only one moved by the key. Seriously, why even bother with a lock?
@@spvillano Reminds me of some videos from LPL showcasing gun safes.
He also forgot to pick it a second time to make sure it wasn't a fluke.
Well done Clive!
You are a man of many talents.
That looks to be a 400 series key, common one was 455. During Thermographic inspections I had to open hundreds of Rittel cabinets and sub boards and got fed up when my 'Escort' could not find the keys. On several occasions the locks would miraculously open after a subtle rake attack or a quick tap on a Master lock. I still have my old bunch of cabinet keys. Before anyone pipes up, No I would never remove a lockout.
I acquired (officially) a 92 series master key whilst working in the entertainment industry many years ago, and still have it. Once I frightened a HR manager by unlocking her filing cabinet for her when she’d left her keys at home.
@@SteveW139 Not locked Miss, just a bit stiff. I still have key's to 'special places' ooops
I used to have an override key for the lifts in the building I used to work in. Very useful if you wanted to go 10 floors and didn't want to share the lift with 20 spotty and smelly herberts.
@@TestGearJunkie. Very handy key to have to gain access to the directors washroom or better the tea trolly.
I seem to recall DeviantOllam doing a video on (if I remember correctly) Ford fleet keys and explaining how the vast majority of Crown Victoria police vehicles manufactured from, like, 1990-~2008 or so are pretty much entirely keyed-alike.
Just double-checked and the key's the "1284X."
Edit: Apparently it's not limited to the Crown Vics. Seems the vast majority of Ford fleet vehicles take one of the following six keys:
1284X
0576X
0151X
1435X
0135X
1294X
1111X
That is such a beautifully elegant solution.
Oh how clever! I love the fact it's got off-the-shelf components in it. Throwing out an entire assembly just because some contacts are getting unreliable is such a waste.
I enjoy picking locks. It's very satisfying!
How about representing clients in court?
Very nice open there!
You sir are a man of many talents
That really is clever and well built.
That was the wrong kind of tension tool, too much tension for a wafer lock (judging from how much the tension tool indented the skin of Clive's finger), and a less than optimal pick for wafer locks, and it STILL opened. This is why wafer locks are more for theater than security.
The cleverest solutions are always the simplest, it takes a special kind of clever to not over complicate things
I'm not the Lock picking lawyer so this might not go great..... finally a man who admits he's not flawless
Yeah, well I am indeed a perfect 10. Alas, that is on the Richter scale...
Thank you, keep working.
Indeed, a very simple yet clever design. MK have been the high end for a very long time, and rightly so.
This is a crossover I didn't think we need
Considering the quality of some of the electronics you deal with, I'm slightly disappointed that the locking mechanism wasn't live. If nothing else that would be a very unique trap for pickers.
Saves recertification using standard parts as seen from working with major manufacturers. It did puzzle me as all the resources were there but it was just the paperwork was easier!
I did think it saved recertification.
Awesome Video Big Clive🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
Nice to see that so many other people are familiar with the dulcet tones of The Lockpicking Lawyer, which in turn makes me glad that I rely on very few locks!
There are only two proper defenses in life. High current and high explosives.
@@spvillano Intelligence can be used as an highly effective defence mechanism.
Example: _Having the intelligence to understand that people who reduce any situation to a binary solution are always wrong on both counts, can be used as a defence against being misled by a fool who only thinks in black and white while existing in a world of infinite shades of grey._
Hope this helps.
@@meh3247 I've always said, there are two kinds of intelligence, both need to be synergistically used together to be effective. There is the intelligence of intellect. There is the intelligence of information. Those with an excellent intellect can and have refused to utilize accurate information and thereby made phenomenally stupid decisions that were unbelievably destructive to their conditions. There are those of average to excellent intellect, who not only refuse to utilize accurate information, but instead willfully embrace deficient and inaccurate information, again, resulting in woefully deficient decision making. Then, there are those who can range from below average through higher than normal intellect who utilize accurate and timely intelligence, thereby arriving at superior and successful decisions.
That said, binary solutions do exist to relatively simple and rarely, complex problems. A building is on fire or it is not. If one's nation is being invaded, well, that's a complex problem, but if one wishes to retain one's sovereignty as a nation, there is only a binary solution. A meteor explodes over a city or it didn't. All readily apparent in a binary solution. A pandemic is present and active, now it's getting more complex in how to appropriately and effectively manage, contain and recover from it.
The problem in the US is, an addiction to simple and fast solutions to complex problems. If one is being attacked by a bear, there's really only one solution that doesn't involve being eaten, but the quick fix approach gets the bear to go away, then ignores the massive bleeding. This leads to predictable results, scavengers eat you instead.
But, let's look at an infinite shades of grey problem from relatively recent history. It's actually a fascinating problem, given the realities involved.
Your nation is in a state of Total War. During this, refugees from friendly, overpowered allies arrive with accurate intelligence revealing a major ethnic cleansing campaign involving millions of people, extermination camps are busily working to eliminate this group. There is photographic, video and document based evidence fully supporting this activity. Public knowledge would trigger a demand to stop this, despite your nation currently being in a purely defensive position. Indeed, public outrage would be so severe, there would likely be a demand that the exterminating group be exterminated themselves.
Over time, additional allies join in the fray, the odds are now in your side's favor. Do you reveal to a war weary populace this horrific campaign and spur anew dedication to the cause at a a risk of demands for extermination of the exterminators? Do you continue your advances and try to suppress this information, even when the initial extermination camps are liberated? Do you bypass those camps, as they're unnecessary to your goals long term?
I'm sure you are familiar with that specific problem set I'm speaking of, it was WWII's German concentration camps, the intelligence was present in painful detail since the first Polish camp was built and entered operation.
The problem is one of practicality, morality and reality. No solution was possible initially, regardless of one's desires. Later, one could ignore the problem and dispatch the remainder of one's morality or modestly hamper one's war effort in relieving the camps. Gradually, if relatively accurately reveal what was being discovered allowed emotional adjustment to the realities that the less informed could accommodate while continuing the war effort and well, victory made the entire mess dissolve, save for the dead.
And along the way, the Allies hastily changed their concentration camps signs to read internment camps, as initially their official names were concentration camps...
I've also dealt with a real world opposite the fog of war situation, where an excess of information via novel means created its own fog of confusion. Where we literally went from at best a squad radio to full tilt squad level full C4ISR packages, complete with platoon level drones, satellite access for imagery and communications and a lot more. Now, commanders and NCO's were inundated with information, from precise location of each and every squad member (it was a prototype system, with spinning wheels, bells, whistles and more), point and click artillery, automated sentries, pretty much every toy that DARPA was considering fielding was folded into the platform. Introducing a new concept, information overload. Some filtering was added due to that and a lot of additional training for the now current platform provided and some platforms, well, quietly pushed to the back burner (specifically, a sentry platform, which still isn't quite a production model yet, as I'd predicted that a half dozen men stomping around could fool it into thinking an entire platoon or more was present, largely due to one indicator based alerts).
Laughably, a lieutenant had grave trouble initially with the overload, while I was able to sort through and well, mentally filter noise from content. But then, I had children and one learns to track more than one or the cat will suffer and I also was accustomed to reviewing in realtime dozens of logs to track down a problem and resolve it. Hence, the suggestion for those filters and "oh, the routing protocol you chose was the least appropriate for the conditions anticipated in operations that you could possibly select, might I suggest xxxxxxxx?" I didn't have their routing information, save based upon the intelligence of settling time of a changed route, that specific protocol taking precisely that amount of time and hence, being quite distinctive. A help, operating under conditions that were far from ideal for communications, as the vegetation was of a type infamous for absorbing signal, yielding spectacularly useful information that improved the platform, once that was pointed out.
One takes one's information, finds deficits in one's approach and adjusts accordingly, one also plans ahead for further impediments to one's plans on objective and has contingencies. Or one adopts the idiot's approach and tries to blunder one's way through. After all, it worked at Leyte. Yeah, no let's try it the smarter way this time...
i used to 'pick' these style of locks as a child (many many years ago) with just a paper-clip. didn't do anything fancy just took a medium size paper-clip and squished the eye's/ends of the paper-clip a little smaller to fit in the slot and shove it in there , jiggle it around while twisting, and presto you were in... (mainly to get into the lock-box of uumm "special diskettes" used for pc's at the time:)
LPL would be very impressed with your lock picking skills 👍
Interesting idea, and reasonably easy to pick if needed. 2x👍
When I saw this it reminded me of some light switches I saw in a disability group home; one of the residents liked to continually flick light switches to the annoyance of the other residents, so all the light switches in common areas were only operable by key. I say "key", but it was just a standard tool that looked like a church key can opener. It wasnt intended to be pick proof or anything like that.
commonly called a fish key. Usually used for places where you dont want people switching stuff off, or emergency lighting test switches.
Thanks :)
You cannot get better than MK.
Simple idea, but makes the lock replaceable etc. MK equipment is good stuff in my opinion. I’ll look forward to seeing more lock videos from you in the future!
I love the design, using a cam to switch an actual switch... it's almost almost brazen and beautiful in its simplicity and effectiveness.
Of course one could complain about the lock's core, because you probably could open it with a waverake as fast as using the keys. But then again, you could open it using a Philips screwdriver. Though, depending on where it placed (i.e. in a public area), that could result in questions being asked.
Nevertheless, a slightly more challenging core (i.e. disc detainer, like in good bicycle locks) to make picking too time consuming and/or require specialised tools could make this perfect.
I picked up lockpicking as a hobby. Fun!!
Beautifully production engineered using stock parts and as you say tamperproof, otherwise you could slacken off the fascia screws, pull the plate forward and operate the switch with a screwdriver poked down the back.
That's a pretty neat socket
Oh Clive... I am glad you are so picky!
I have a need of one of them 😊
All the LPL jokes notwithstanding, and I do love them, you might try a bit less tension on wafer locks. They are always going to be dead cores so you aren’t pushing against a spring. And yes, trying to get a tension tool in there is always a challenge. Try an old school bottom-of-keyway wiper insert that is wide enough to bind in there before it impinges on the first wafer. Or if you have one of those funky Y-wrenches you get with the cheap Chinese pick sets, those work well.
Idea: electrify the inside of the lock for lockpickers
Lock picking Clive ... lol you did as good as I could have !
The internals seem to be well made. 👍
My critic from a German standpoint is the metal housing of the socket. The rest seems fine. 😃
this is very intresting
Always good.👍 👍 👍 👍
Clive picking locks? *YES PLEASE*
LPL beware - Big Clive is after your job 🙂
Interesting switching socket!
Looking at that lock, I wouldn't be surprised if a wave rake wouldn't have done the job really. Still, nicely picked!
He did rake the lock he just didn't have one to hand I think.
Great to see you doing lockpicking.
And here in France they tend to use Legrand Soliroc sockets with a lock on the cover rather than a switch for the power itself.
Soliroc meaning literally solid as a rock by the way.
There are special tension wrenches that are made to engage in what LPL calls the top of the keyway (but which in e.g. Germany would be at the bottom - Americans install their locks the wrong way round), which is achieved by having a ledge so they only go a few mm in. I think that would have helped you here.
Also, I personally can't pick wafer locks either. I outright can't. I just never get the wafers were I want them in order. However, I can rake them with basically everything (my favorite tool for that is a random other key that happens to fit in the hole, but a standard pick will do as well - BTW sometimes easier when held upside down).
Interesting socket. I can imagine locations where this might come in handy. Sockets only to be used by cleaners for example.
Yeah, that's a nice socket right there, the electrical separation (insolation) for the key (which is conductive) is cleaverly done :)
i was expecting a safety nightmare - disappointed. elegant but slightly brutal.
Impressive lock picking.
cool I will try picking my own plug next
send it the LockPickingLawyer for added fun: probably a simple rake job, sub 30s including intro and outro.
Very clever! I bet they spend half as much as if they'd built a special mechanism, while still delivering the quality you want and expect.
Also, you should see if you can do a crossover with LPL, that would be great :)
Glad to see someone using my type of picking techniques!
Random jiggling more or less...😂
I find for a tight keyway you can use a less curvy pick to still get the tensioning bar in there.
Thats an interesting gadget ...
As someone who was trained to pick locks by a professional locksmith. Let me give you a few pointers. For a wafer lock like that you want very light tension. You then want to drag your pick all the way in and all the way out, that makes sure that you hit all the wafers with each pass. Applying top the keyway tension with a bottom of the keyway tensioner never goes very well so you should either use a top or the keyway tensioner or modify, make or buy a smaller bottom of the keyway tension wrench. Applying tension to the bottom of the keyway is usually always easier than applying tension at the top the only reason you’d want to apply tension at the top of the keyway is because there’s very restrictive warding at the bottom of the keyway that won’t let you get a tensioner in the bottom of the keyway and give you enough room to not overset pins with your pick. Tensioners are really easy to make. When I was being taught to pick locks, I was taught to make my own picks and tensioners rather than buy them. They are actually really easy to make, you can make picks out or windshield wiper insert or feeler gauge and with a bench grinder and some sandpaper you can make some pretty decent picks. You can make tensioners out of just about anything, my 2 favorites happen to be hex keys or windshield wiper insert. If it’s a skill you want to get better at I highly recommend either making a decent set of picks and tensioners or buying a set from one of the major pick manufacturers, Sparrows, Southord, or Peterson, multipick might be easier to get your hands on in the UK because they are European based and southord and sparrows are US based. My EDC set happens to be a custom set with Southord case, picks, and tensioners along with some sparrows top of the keyway tensioners, when I put together my set I knew exactly what picks and tensioners I wanted so I ordered just bare picks from Southord because they happened to be the cheapest picks I could get at the time from a company that makes locksmith equipment. But a basic as set from any one of those manufacturers should be just fine, it’s really hard to learn to pick locks with crappy picks and tensioners like the ones that come in those cheap Chinese sets.
Clive, the Scottish LPL. Love it.
My Mom warned me about hanging around the wrong kind of VideO channels. I'm starting to understand On the flip side -> that is VERY clever! I was alread to wince & hurl at the shody mechanism hiding behind that plate. Then you go and show us a stroke of genius. Yeah.. Mikey Likes! Thank you for the video. You RoCk (don't let that go to your head, again)
I think you have the pick upside down: you should be using the end to push each pin up, not the "bendy bit" - you'll get better feedback that way and that makes the picking easier. It's called "top of the keyway tension" by the way. :D (Yes, I watch LPL as well!)
As much as I hate RUclips shorts, they brought me here; bravo for managing an ad that doesn't feel like clickbait.
It looks like a Filing cabinet lock. when I worked at Staples on the furniture department I rang the manufacturer up and ask them to send me a master key and they did. The Weekend staff would always sell the display units because they couldn't be bothered to go in the back and find one. So I started locking the keys in the Filing cabinets this soon put a stop to it. I still have the key.
The covert instruments picks are really nice and cheap. They work much better than cheap eBay or Amazon ones
You know all of your comments now are gonna be about the 'lockpicking lawyer'... ofc you do, good marketing :)
Should I try it ?
One moment please...
There was one of those in my hotel room in Germany , I it was locked off I managed to pick it with the little nail file in my nail clipper. As I didn’t have an Uk to Europe adapter and I needed to charge my laptop and phone .
Why would a hotel room come with locked sockets ?
The hallway or dining room would make sense but the room ?
Is it not normal to be able to charge your phone, laptop, shaver etc... ?
There are hotels where you have to put your room card in a reader on the wall to switch on the power but that only to make sure the lights get turned off whenever the guest leaves the room to go somewhere.
I have seen these in some train stations, most of the time switched on. I suspect the main purpose is to just deter casual use to charge phones etc so the lack of pick resistance is unlikely to be a big concern.
An interesting product. Yes, it's perhaps easy to pick, but presumably it's not intended to be mega-secure. My guess is that it's just for discouraging casual unauthorised use of electricity or for preventing children playing with it. One thing that I would like to see on it is an indicator light because as it is, it's not easy to tell whether it's on or off, unlike with normal sockets where you can just look at the switch position.
Here in France I have only seen locked sockets at public places where they don't want random people to have access to the power.
So you're right I guess.
Child protection on the other hand is accomplished through the shutters in the holes.
Even simpler, unscrew the socket from the wall, disassemble the locking tab, and unscrew the lock retainer ring. You’re left with a switch inside a reach-through hole. Locks are for keeping honest people honest.
Yes we can.!
I have a Very Large Slide Hammer that says, Access All ...
Think I'll rename it, The BIG Clive 😆
They have those installed in the bus shelters in partick bus station, buchanan bus station has an older design, easily picked with the right tools