Why Russell Westbrook Is Still Not A Championship Point Guard: NBA Basketball 2012-13:
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Coach Nick breaks down the second half of last night's Spurs vs Thunder game, and while Westbrook had a number of good plays, he nullified that by consistently making the wrong decision on both offense and defense.
His defense in particular on the weakside makes him a liability, and against good players like Tony Parker, Westbrook becomes almost singlehandedly responsible for the loss.
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I can see why Durant left OKC left. I'm frustrated with Westbrook after watching this...
This was in 2013. Have you watched the past two seasons? Westbrook has been breathtaking.
2016 diff story.
+Joseph Wheeler nah. he still the same shit.
+Joseph Wheeler: Westbrook's assists per game definitely increased since 2013. But the final gauge of a PG's value is his effectivity in helping his team. Did OKC winning % and chances during the playoffs increase in that time span? NO. And plays like the ones in this video still happened in the 2015-16 season. Nine years was enough for Durant to have waited for Westbrook to mature. I would've bolted after three years.
Real shit some many time he cold of pass it to Kevin Durant
Can’t believe how this still holds
Can’t believe Lebron smart yet dumb
It’s hilarious
Big respect, You foreseen this long time ago. Yet people blame Durant for leaving Westbrook and OKC. Westbrook for too long of a time has shown that he lacks decision making in crunch time.
Yea seeing this now he was way ahead
The worst part is he still does this shit in close games. He tries to take over and fucks his team over.
EGO. There are players who'd be better off passing, but won't acknowledge that their physical talent isn't all there is to winning.
SteezyB 3001 he still does it
Raul Diaz Ehh not really. He basically is the team right now. He's definitely won them FAR more games than he's lost them.
Westbrook is a good player but isn't smart. Takes too many shots dumb shots. OKC is not a championship team and I think if KD stays there he will never win because of Westbrook he thinks he's Lebron or something
hater
dang
true dat
James Hunter Oooh shit a fan that supported KD leaving before even leaving
Damn u was on point fam
9 years later same old shit, I'm pissed Lakers got him instead of Hield and keeping KCP & Caruso
Hey my brother at least he’s gone now. Lebron and Ad would have to play otherworldly to win games for us. Honestly drove both them to the ground with all there injuries. But at least this new team is good very promising. Not sure they can win it all or make the playoffs this year. But next year if they keep the same group I think we’ll be title contenders.
@@yeezusdropout yeah, the moment I saw that Vanderbilt pass to Gabriel against GS (D'Lo, Vando, and Beas 1st game as a Laker) I knew the potential was there I started to believe on this team once again. And look we are 13-7 since trade deadline and Bron barely played because of injuries.
That 18 months wouldn't be depressing if we don't have AD and Bron. But that's a past and here I am, always looking forward to every Lakers game like pre Westbrick trade.
Sorry for the late reply coz I thought this acc was gone
@@eijisawakita1654 hell yeah man. This last year and half of watching the lakers was brutal. Plus we’ve had bad luck with injury’s the last 3 years. I believe if no one got hurt in 2021 we would’ve went back to back. Hell we were 22-4 before all the injuries and undefeated on the road. Yeah man this new team is awesome to watch. And lebron being back is a huge plus. Only thing I dislike about our team is our coach lol. But I expect us to make noise in the playoffs!
@@yeezusdropout bro look we're in a fucking WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS rn after a 2-10 start, aren't you excited? 😭
@@eijisawakita1654 bro it’s amazing 😭
It's crazy how this is still relevant today...
Ikr some people never improve. Make him a shooting guard his iq is a dumpster fire and we need to put the ball in someone else hands
And today!
I face palmed my face so hard at the last play
I face palmed and smh at ALL the plays.
russ is just a really good player that you see at LA Fitness.
Lmao
yeah, and you're not even that.
Lmfaaaaoooooo that was hilarious
Willie Leon westbrook still sucks lol
westbrick is a coaches worst nightmare.
9 years later , same issues
10*
April 2019 still valid. Hes about to lose the first round by himself 4 to 1
I came from 2019, he's wasted his last three seasons trying to average a triple-double in RS, instead of developing his game to try to win a shampionship. Sad
@Domo Jones true he is crazy inefficient
In 2019 he was injured all playoffs hater
Durant needs to leave OKC and get with a TEAM. He deserves better than teammates like Russ. Russ is like Ed Norton in Rounders; fun to be around till you realize he's using ur talent and keeping you down and doesnt give a fckaboutit
novaWRX Yaya you've finally gotten ur wish.
Yeah but on 2K14, they always make that alley oop.
This video aged very well
still true
Still true today, playoffs 2018.
still true
Mo A STILL TRUE IN 2019
Still true
Aaaaand still
A year later after this video he still isn't a championship pg, that last 3 min vs the Spurs...ALL HE DID WAS SHOOT....AND MISS
all kd did was fall and turn it over your point?
That awkward moment where you're so quick to prove someone wrong that you actually make yourself look stupid.
1) we're talking about Russell Westbrook being a championship point gaurd, yet you bring up KD, who unlike Westbrook is playing his correct position
2) Scott Brooks system, if you can call it one, basically is one v one offense, with KD playing in the perimeter as a jump shooter most of the time. To make matters worse Westbrook shoots MORE than KD....what?!
Bottom line you can't win chips with Westbrook at point gaurd.
One year later he's still playing Championship playoff like a streetball tournament.
DopeDiamondz KD lost that game on his own, scoring champ should be able to close that out. Like how is falling on the ball playing the correct position?
The thunder have 3 capable scorers (if Ibaka's right) and the rest aside Reggie Jackson are below average role players. If Westbrook was a traditional PG, they wouldn't win games, especially with Perkins, Collison, Thabo giving you NO scoring. with or without Westbrook on the floor. You can't have any type of good system without good players which is why the Lakers don't run triangle anymore and the Suns don't run SSOL.
George Olumba
U have a point but the fact remains the Thunders have grown used to relying on KD and Westbrook. Steve Adams is another capable player and is under ultilised. Look someone is good enough to get paid to play in NBA he is a capable basketballer, just find ways to make the most of out the players.
This video is so ahead of it's time.
Wow, I need to rewatch this
That last play -_________________________________- really
This video was made nearly 4 years ago and Russ is still doing the SAME EXACT THING IN 2016! People were so enthralled by the triple doubles and use that a some sort of rebuttal whenever you point out the obvious. Whether its the full steam ahead drives into the lane with no numbers. The multiple and often consecutive shot no pass possessions. The gambling on D and then yelling at a teammate when its his man getting the bucket. I could go on and on. What is even more frustrating is the amount of times he looks off KD just so he can get the glory play in. It's selfishness on full display. Look off Dion Waiters, ok, KD??? The learning curve is over, and its obvious now that in his mind he has to be the reason they win. His lack of basketball IQ, selfishness, with no repercussions from the coaching staff equals KD to San Antonio or GS.
Bro you was right
Not only right, but spot-on, 100% correct! This was the most logical thing to happen indeed!
it's now 2018 and still
Vangidism C 2019 and he’s trying to change but it might be too little too late
@@louiswilliams984 It's the playoffs and it's still the same!
Thanks, Coach! 6 years on, still holds true.
Still true today lmao
Great talent horrible baseball player. The bad thing is 35 years from now people who didn't watch him play will look at his stats and try to argue he's the 2nd greatest pg behind Magic.
Luckily he's a basketball player and not a baseball player
this dude takes too many shots. give some to durant.
Nah that last play was wild😂😂😂😂
Lmaoo bruh on the game winner his brain cooked
For some reason I just can't imagine Westbrook looking at game time footage with his coaches, he just doesn't strike me as that kind of player.
Douglas Quaid he will go to his closet and try to be a fashion model.
Official PG's that are better than Westbrick:
1. Cury
2. Parker.
3. Cp3
4. Irving
5. Rondo
6. A dead Derrick Rose
Cury
Curry the sniper...
Russ still doing this thing on this year's laker seasons 2021-2022😩
I'm a Westbrook and OKC Fan but I find this true and just opinion.
this is why KD left
+Good Man This was 2013. Lmao
+i Maestro I've watched russ for 6 years as an OKC fan
"this is why kd left " Westbrook's gets more assist than he did back then and kd is the reason okc lost vs gs he decided to play iso ball in the 4th quarter of game 6 and went cold
ClutchWestbrook yeah and who turned the ball over 3 times in the LAST 4 MINS? Choking ass
speaking facts since 2012 Russ will never change
It's 2021 and he's on the Lakers, along with Bron, AD, Rondo and Dwight Howard and he's still doing the same thing.
That's crazy. 10 years later and doing the same thing. Coach Nick just made another video just an hour ago about Russell again. So ironic
8 Years later, this is still true.
it’s 2018 and he still the same
it’s 2019 and he still the same
Its 2021 and he still the same
The lakers made the worst trade for a super star 2022
5 years later, this video is still valid
8 Years Later: Wstbrook is still not a Championship player😂😂
Westbrick is the worst starting PG in NBA History.
Damn this aged well coach😅
He hasn’t changed😭😭😭
"Is Roberson the new Kendrick Perkins? Keep watching to find out!"
You were spot on about Russ. He still hasn't fixed his awful style of play 10 years later
People still defending Westbrook. I don't get it.
Same.
he switched onto kawhi lmaoo his iq is something else
I think Reggie Jackson did better than Westbrook while Russel was injured. Westbrook should be sg and Jackson at PG. Plus, Russel Westbrook is losing Tony Parker so much, SGs dont have to guard guys like Parker or Paul.
Plus he isnt much of a passer for an allstar pg
Trent Middlebrough I don't understand you people. Russell averages 7 APG for his career and 7.1 this season. That is more than other elite point guards Stephen Curry, Damian Lillard, Kyrie Irving, Kyle Lowry, Jeff Teague, Mike Conley.
Smallie Bigs first of all, its not more than Curry or Lowry. Also, his high assist numbers might be a result of him having the ball in his hands to much, making every shot the Thunder take either a shot that he takes or a bad shot he passed to when he is out of options and the shot clock is winding down.
Hop Hopsen He has higher career averages than all of those players I mentioned. If you watched OKC games which I presume you don't you would know he is not the stereotype that people claim him to be.
Well, well, it is now 2021 and he is still the same risky player. The difference is that now everyone knows Russell Westbrick is the lowest IQ point guard. Skip Bayless is correct!
I think coach nick is just frustrated that all the talent of RW is not being utilized to his full potential just because of bad decisions. I am not a fan of his but i respect his athletic abilities.
that last Defence,,hahahahha
He wants all the glory and credit to himself. That's his problem. Selfish point-guard like Westbrook can lead the team to nothing but defeat. He needs to correct his attitude first to win a championship.
exactly
+Namgay Tshering I haven't been watching basketball closely for years, but whenever I did watch Westbrook play, he's been a major BALL HOG.
+G Ryen ikr I never noticed that before
+G Ryen Ball hog, he was like 2nd in assists
Birdman Respeck Like I said, I have only seen a handful of his games each season and he was mad-ball hoggin' each game even if he was having a bad shooting night. I would definitely not want to be his teammate.
Westbrook love his passion, scary talented but decision making is awful and frustrating especially 4th quarters
2022 still the same...
it 2019 and still true "when are you going to learn that your actions have consequences"
You frighten me when you say I'm a Skip Bayless wannabe.
Coach I'm from the future it's been 9 years since this video, he's the same exact player 😂😂😂 and guess what he's playing on the Lakers with LeBron 🤣😂🤣😂 and they're struggling.
Yeah young kobe was like him, when he was young right?
Westbrook is not a rookie anymore, he is not young for those kind of things.
martincho rios he still does this shit and he aint that young anymore
This holds true even in 2017...
Westbrook is so underrated I'm no fan of him but you see what happened to the Thunder on this year's Playoffs? No once could control the offense but it just proves that he knows how to play point. Just give him time Westbrook knows the play point but sometimes Scott Brooks asks Westbrook to score more.
Kind of hard to consider him a point guard when all he does is think shoot before running a play.
At least my head isn't so narrow.
Westbrook Russell I'm dead yo you funny asl lmaoooo
Westbrook Russell im dead
Westbrook Russell a least kevin Durant does not shoot a 3 like you
But your mind is even more narrow than his head....
it's kinda sad cuz this was 9yrs ago and he still plays like that lol
and this is why KD left
He still makes these mistakes
I like how there's a date on this vid's title, because there's going to be a 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 ect version of this video.
Who else is here after his - 46 effort vs The Heat
Nothing has changed in 2022
Everyone makes mistakes and he's not the best he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head but he's one of the best for a reason
As a pointguard decision making is very important. I think he would be more successful as a SG.
+sk8mafia97 shooting gaurd is his main position anyway
+mooKie mooKie No he's always been a point guard
you're right. and what coach nick is saying isn't that they don't need him, it's that his skills aren't suited to being a point guard. in fact, in one of his videos(i can't remember which one) he says westbrook should move to the shooting guard spot. his main value to them comes as a scorer, and the thunder got hurt in these playoffs because they didn't have a secondary scorer to take some pressure off durant. so you're right about them needing him, but it doesn't make him a good point guard.
of course hes not a championship PG. He's like a really athletic allen Iverson that passes just a smidge more
Robert ルナ Iverson was a ball hog, but in his defense he didn't have a top 5 player to pass the ball to. Westbrook wants to be the man so much that it sometimes hurts the team's flow. It should be him and Durant leading the way, not him vs Durant.
+MrMike25896 AI was a two gaurd
ルナロバート Iverson didn’t gamble as much on defense. Iverson was the better defender.
@7:59. Game time!!! I now know why I dislike RW so much...
so you disliked him before for no reason makes sense
Cause he's a basket case.. thanks for your comment. .
I would like to correct some people's comments; Coach isn't 'hating', he is analyzing. There's a difference.
2:38 ibakas block though lol
Interesting....😭
I am a die hard drose fan and I just want to say that u can't judge if a player is "championship material" just by one game. Despite his flaws (which every player has) he is an outstanding guard who puts up incredible numbers
***** to show I'm not bias
+Max Barton Numbers don't show Basketball IQ...LOL
You must not have watched the full video. Coach Nick even said multiple times that Russell was going out of control to the basket, wrong footed, etc., which results in him not finding his teammates. Coach Nick also admitted that Russell is a very good on ball defender, and shouldn't be losing his man on cuts, etc. and he points out multiple times that it's his decision making that costs the thunder games.
Russell Westbrook was the whole reason OKC got to the 3rd round last year😂
Russell Westbrook was the whole reason why OKC ONLY GOT to the 3rd round last year.
And you coach on what level......?
Thank you @DapperDan. You're a coach on a youtube channel.......
he knows what hes talking about though, did you even watch the video? Everyone knows Westbrook has crazy athletic ability, but his basketball IQ is very low
Tony Parker is averaging 7.3 assists this season.. 5.9 career and Steve Nash avg is about 3 turnovers in his career. I wouldn't get too hyped up over those numbers. And a number that really matters is the fact that he has never missed a game.. not even in college. Russ is a great player thats still improving & with the contract extensions KD & RW signed.. these guys will be the strongest 1-2 punch in the league for a very long time.
The euro steps were not off the wrong foot. They actually teach you to go same foot same hand sometimes. I agree with everything else though. Didnt realize how undisciplined he was on defense
Criticize the 100 things he does bad, but what about the 1000000 other things he does well lol
The things he does bad might cost okc a championship one day
tommybcuzz he already has
Shaquille Siyam True that, but being young hopefully Russ can improve
More like 100 things wrong, and only 10 things right
u was right fam
Rose knows what he's doing. He can always find the open man, but when he has a GOOD look, he'll take it. Rose has an amazing floater and mad handles as well, and while its true that they can both score very well, D-Rose actually is in control and can play the point.
The legend says Westbrook is still looking for Parker.
That's why there are 'positions' in basketball. No matter what type of teamwork a coach preaches, if he doesn't have the right personnel to fill in the spots, the team will lose.
Not everyone can be centres, guards or forwards. Not everyone can handle the ball and set up teammates. Not everyone can shoot.
Teamwork is not just about passing and defending. Don't get me wrong because those things are also important. What I'm saying is that teamwork is also about doing your role right.
Doesn't matter who you're playing, bad decision making is bad decision making, Not to mention the things that coach nick talks about here were huge in the playoffs last year as well.
That last play - that defense by Westbrook is atrocious like gah damn bro you really like lost him 🤣😂
Most fans forgot that Rondo was a key component to the Celtics championship run back in 2008.
Agreed he should be a SG have been saying it for years. A good PG with a high IQ would make them so much better.
this was the first game of the season. he is playing great now
In 2020 there's a small improvement in his shot selection in the rockets, but it's still our Westbrick in the heart.
first of all look at the upload date. second, what do you mean by little mistakes? DID YOU NOT SEE THAT DEFENSE!?
His offensive rating has been average this year, so... meh
Its weird not seeing coach's smooth seat geek ad transition
CIKEDEES maybe he was so depressed after seing those westbrick plays. Haha
You're confused. I love Westrbrook, I just asked in which game was he so dominant because I missed a few Thunder games.
this criticism is pretty much on point, all coach nick is sayings is westbrook can be a greater pg than he is right now.
Dude Russel Westbrook is a good point guard and a great player. He's one of main the reason why the Thunder went to the finals last year. He just needs to be smarter with the ball because we all know that he always tryna be the super hero or whatever y'all call that. Basically he just needs to mature.
three years later spurs have another ring and okc is below .500 half way through the season sitting at 10th in the west lol
well, maybe because westrook and durant were injured the first 2 months of competition? holy crap
***** 2 months isn't that much of the season, Russ and Kevin are great players. But they lost a lot of key players that made their team unique and better. So now they are struggling to stay at .500. But they are only one game behind phoenix for 8th. So golden state better watch out!
Did you honestly just say 2 months of a season is not that much... When the NBA season is only 6 months long.... Just saying
I see your point jmoney911zzoz
***** haha season over
....this was the first game of the season and first game without james harden.
Westbrook Career high assists 8.9
4.7 RPG
Career low turnovers 3
Still scoring 21 ppg
Thunder now on 12 game win streak
whenever westbrook drives or gets an iso, hes always intent on scoring even with a double team and doesnt even think of the possibility of an open guy beyond the arc
This was very well made
7 years later and the furthest he made it was 2 WCF with KD and losing a 2020 SF in 5
Agreed, Westbrook is a score first point guard and he becomes redundant when you have KD on the floor. With Rubio, the Thunder would have a lot more assists and would be a great floor general, especially at this time when the Thunder had Harden
Everything about his game is amazing, except his IQ. Scary thing is, he's improving every year, he's still young.
As a Celtics fan i really like what Rondo brings to the team, he is one of the few pass first point guards. It's a little sad that there isn't more pass first point guards in the league.