Something else I’ve noticed is the F-5E/F-5C is a much ‘colder’ aircraft than a lot of other aircraft at their BR. What that means is, unless I’m using an AiM-9L or something with a sensitive seeker, I have to close to within 2km to use a missile, where if it was a MiG-21 I’d be able to shoot within 3-4km. Even if the F-5 is using afterburner.
I play the 5.7 F4u a lot and it feels like the cannons are good again. Granted I only play it in custom battles with friends because it’s at a terrible br, but still they feel good to use again
@@jaydenlee3091 I’m talking about the planes at it’s br. It can fight them but it never gets the chance because the entire enemy team is usually all ju-288s
i love this plane especially when i was grinding the f16. only thing i had to get used to was decelerating enough to get rid of the mach cone during dogfights/any interaction.
Tip in the F5E and F5C from personal experience, I've never had to drop afterburner to flare a missile, it feels like the engines are colder than the game says they are
you haven't played the Draken yet and yes even if it got no flares, it's faster than a F104S so you are going to outpace most missiles, and since it now retains more energy than the MiG19 (bullshit, but J35A sold well) it will even be able to slowly zig zag to deplete the missile's speed
in the 1990s Paraguay almost got 10 F-5Es from the Republic of China Air Force, but our government bought more UH-1Hs instead, as such, the Paraguayan Air Force has never operated supersonic jets rip
Video on f5a? Im going to grind it after i finish the ptz89 and need a cas jet with my ztz99-II, a5c is good but no smart munitions and my potato pc has a hard time rendering tanks, planes and especially helis even at close range
this thing is damn good. i carry the 30 mil gunpod just because it can, and 2 agm's for blind frogfoots or the bot harriers. Yall should try it. just fly from your right base towards the enemy airfield and you can headon lock at least 2 ppl
Tbh 20s bit OS'ing every time is something i'm strating to really like, it feels like the damage models are starting to actually matter, and truthfully it's not like a single 20mm burst is gonna OS it's target IRL either, heck 20s not being reliable enough is the whole idea behind somenations opting for the 30s :/
Somehow I saw your video seconds after release and I was wondering if you look at the comments in the first 20 mins or you wait for people to have the time to watch the video
I just started playing War Thunder and am currently on the F4 in rank 2 and p400 and do not know which route to take any advice on whether i should take the f14 or f16, I'm aware I would also get the f5e if I do go towards the f16 route so I'm not sure because of the iconic tomcat.
You should try climbing at 20 degrees in the F5E. If you do, most of the time you end up above everyone else, and from there you can clean house pretty well. Since it's 10.7 you also don't have to worry much about pulse dopler SARHs or much of any radar missiles beyond the occasional R3Rs.
would not recommend unless you get a down tier, those f4e with sparrows will bully you at high altitudes. and for some reason all the 11.3 games have america on both teams so you will be fighting phantoms (or worse, looking at you f14a at 11.7).
@@nicks1221 I dont stay at high altitude and countering sparrows and dodging fights up there is easy. From there I go down and drop in behind enemies I know are flareless or not paying attention and they will get a 9J up their ass. I do this strat every game and I never die up top. and almost never run into F4Es. Anything you pass up there you just fly straight and they will either ignore you, or bleed all of their speed trying to turn.
@@nicks1221 i do it all the time and the only active fox1 threat up there are r3r from mig21 that prey on clueless folk. maybe if you climb towards the enemy climbing path you'd get fucked by them, but you're pretty much safe against anything that you can't see if you climb to your team climbpath
You see a lot of Kfir, Milan and premium jets bombing and dieing \ running to enemy base because all of them are bots. Bot is huge in the game and will actually kill it in the long run if not addressed. For ARB at that BR, there are 3 to 6 bots every match PER TEAM.
Indeed. It's even worse in naval. Either Gaijin pulls their head out of their asses and starts a crusade against bots, however difficult it may be, or the game will suffer for it...
@@hydrovacattack6269 They boost your K\D at the price of economy. Don't know what you do with your K/D honestly, and you also know that they are not players so you cannot even feel good about it.
@@OzzyTheWild It doesn't matter, it destroys the economy. Before we had RP and SLs for passive actions, being alive on point, near enemies, landing and taking off without time limiters. The rewards of kills\assists\captures are now CAPPED as well. The Medals gave more points, all of those got lowered substantially because (or with the excuse) of botting. The game is balanced on statistics, and 300.000 bots every day do a huge dent on the statistics of the game. And we don't even talk about the "feeling" side of things, when you pop out a 500% RP\SL boostersd and you spawn only to see that half your team is a bot 2S38 staying in base waiting to lock on the first helicopter\plane that pops out (Just to get bombed and killed because high tier CAS is done from way more than only 2.5km) For the same action, now you are getting extremly less compared to what it was, because (or with the excuse) of botting. But hey, as long as you got your dopamine because you see a "Target Destroyed" against a macro that needs to go from point a to point B and press space.
I have always thought the high tier U.S. HE rounds have been dogwater, so I stay away from them as much as possible. I was using the universal belts (2x API, 1X HE) with the F-5E and it felt NUCLEAR! Things were just melting in front of me.
I remember when they first added the F5E and it was a beast. It basically wouldn't die until the pilot was killed, it could beat any plane in a dog fight, and it was sublime in a ground attack capacity
my memories of getting the F-5 twins is their cannons were dogwater (it was still red skies update). it was still insane even if i don't know about the 0.9 mach trick
Had my best air rb game ever yesterday in the f5e, 9 players kills, 6 of those kills were when i was the last one left... It wont surprise anyone to know that i did still lose that game because I ran out of fuel dogfighting the last 2 enemies. Heartbreaker
I almost exclusively play the F-5E since it got the 10.7 downtier. I have at least 4 days of in game time play in it. Here lately there's been a good amount of downtiers to 9.7-10.3. Some occasional 11.3's with very rare full uptiers, but you will occasionally see F-14's on your team. I find the cannons to be kinda reliable. I've definitely noticed that they do actually 1 shot more than they used to, but with that said, they're still far more reliable fire starters. Plenty of times people will steal a kill from me because the cannons just didn't bop hard enough. I use universal belt for more ap rounds, as real shatter is unreliable, to say the least. My strat for this jet is to go up to just below contrail height with my radar off (I don't usually use it unless I'm looking for the last guy) for a bit of extra stealth, and dive in on unsuspecting jets. It's an amazing dogfighter as well with great low speed handling, just don't be slow around a lot of people because you won't get speed back fast. TLDR: I really like this jet.
Cannons reliable very Gsh23L: One shots you and even if it doesn't you go down in 10 seconds Colt Mk11: One shots you 100% ADEN: removes your wings MG151: still best gun AN-M: better damage per hit than most stuff lol.
also do the climb to below contrail, but instead of pouncing down i look for enemy contrails and try to get behind them as they're definitely jousting my team' contrails too. easy kills most of the time, and when they're not i've saved a teammate and forced a high-priority target down to the deck
I barely understand props after 3 years. I simply don't have a clue on jet combat and all my kills are luck. Any general tips from you all would be great.
"why are so many people bombing in kfirs?" Cause even with a full bombload that thing is fast enough to nearly gaurentee that you are 1st to the bases, so consistent points for grinding.
yoo indonesian air force skin let's gooo. also yeah, the guns on F-5 are weird to aim like to the point i can barely score hits on targets flying straight and and can only hit if i'm doing leading shots. they are definitely an upgrade to when i first use F-5 tho, the guns used to be literal peashooter and you'd never get any instant kills with it. you used to have to wait for the enemy to crash from aerodynamic faliure
The poor little premium kids were getting annihilated on their little Su-25s, A-10s and A-6s...so good, merciful Gayjin nerfed the missiles resistance to flares. That didn't work, so they nerfed the missiles range. That didn't work, because guns still existed. So they nerfed gun ballistics. That also didn't work, so they nerfed gun damage. Which also didn't work. Next step is making guns susceptible to flares...
It is overpowered if I don’t get 2-3 kills on a game I’ve had a bad time this thing out turns 90 percent of planes and keeps energy better than anything at this BR has good enough missiles and a great cannon it’s a premium slammer
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Finally I can watch something while I eat my breakfast
i think we’re ipad kids bro
Same dude lmao
Nah iPhone kids are better
Same
@@bluefish_1242IPads were a lot of kids childhood. How is iPhone better
“More fragmentation my ass” *while shooting at the A-10 warthog’s bathtub*
10.7 is a crazy mm, It gets loads of downtiers to 10.0/10.3 and gets to club premiums. Essentially, if it’s 10.7, it’s good.
10.3 Planes are really good too, MF, F8E, F5C
Agree, this is the same for 10.7 ground RB and 10.7 air RB
and now i found you here
still gets wrecked by magic missiles and migs that are all both faster and more manuverable.
I am always getting uptiers now after the sales
The 5.7 Ki84 feels like it's guns got buffed too, even with default belts it feels much better then before.
Something else I’ve noticed is the F-5E/F-5C is a much ‘colder’ aircraft than a lot of other aircraft at their BR. What that means is, unless I’m using an AiM-9L or something with a sensitive seeker, I have to close to within 2km to use a missile, where if it was a MiG-21 I’d be able to shoot within 3-4km. Even if the F-5 is using afterburner.
"why is everybody in the sky? Maybe cuz we're in airplanes" goated line @Joob
saw thumbnail thought you uploaded 2 videos already on the new plane
That no fuel, low ammo kill is the reason why i still come back to play War Thunder 🤣
I play the 5.7 F4u a lot and it feels like the cannons are good again. Granted I only play it in custom battles with friends because it’s at a terrible br, but still they feel good to use again
its at a good enough br, it can outrun, outturn or outclimb most things at a similar br, while having really good guns
@@jaydenlee3091 I’m talking about the planes at it’s br. It can fight them but it never gets the chance because the entire enemy team is usually all ju-288s
@@jaydenlee3091and amount of ammo that is corsair carrying is just insane, you can just spam 20mm
F-5E my beloved
The odd thing is I found using ground belts on air-craft doing more damage then air
i love this plane especially when i was grinding the f16. only thing i had to get used to was decelerating enough to get rid of the mach cone during dogfights/any interaction.
Yeah I hate the shock cone
lol first world problems 😂. i mean i get it but .. jeez man, thats a nice problem to have tbh
@@ImAzraa you're coping...in a war thunder comment section.
Did yall not have difficulty aiming the nose guns?
you can delete mach cone on effects so u wont ever see a cone :)
TNI AU Les go🔥, love that most ppl use this skin for the F-5 or the Marinir skin for the PT-76
Tip in the F5E and F5C from personal experience, I've never had to drop afterburner to flare a missile, it feels like the engines are colder than the game says they are
BEYOND IIINNNSSSAAANNNEEE OUTRO!!!
Joob is a true Chad. Got the good music taste and knows his cars 💯
you are like my favorite warthunder youtuber
4:50 was a very based R530 kill and cinematic AF too
It was actually my intention to miss all of my shots to watch him do that 😎
@@_Joobpls play the f4f early so I can learn from your playstyle I'm using it to grind my rank 6 aircraft
certified F5E moment
The lower tiered F-16
The early TNI-AU camo looks nicer than the current one with Su-27 and F-16C
nice skin (im indonesian), love your playing!
When is bro going to go viral, he deserves it man 😫
Idk if this is the best option for ammo types but i actually use API or AP belts because of realshatter and they actually feel amazing
I do this for pretty much every belt in game
i gave up on the belts and use air targets to fuck up their FM so they can't escape if they're still not dead
f5e is the probably one of the most enjoyable planes in the entire game btw
you haven't played the Draken yet
and yes even if it got no flares, it's faster than a F104S so you are going to outpace most missiles, and since it now retains more energy than the MiG19 (bullshit, but J35A sold well) it will even be able to slowly zig zag to deplete the missile's speed
Whenever I’m engaging someone in the F-5E, I just get off WEP..the AMOUNT OF KILLS I’ve missed because of that damn super sonic cone is immeasurable
I just want a short of that outro, that shit is Incredible
i love that ahhhhhh onnnnnn
6:03 mans really been waiting a long time for the 2nd episode💀
I mainly use AP ammo with the F-5 I think it do more damage and very effective against the SU-25
Over all very good video, i also keep dying to the mach cone which sucks.
Gunpod on f5e can get you some nutty kills.
I love ur videos joob
in the 1990s Paraguay almost got 10 F-5Es from the Republic of China Air Force, but our government bought more UH-1Hs instead, as such, the Paraguayan Air Force has never operated supersonic jets
rip
Video on f5a? Im going to grind it after i finish the ptz89 and need a cas jet with my ztz99-II, a5c is good but no smart munitions and my potato pc has a hard time rendering tanks, planes and especially helis even at close range
You play high tier jets like its flawless
I just got the F-5E, its one of thosenplanes that isnt torture at stock and is insane when spaded
Nice Video..
What belts are you using as armoured targets work wonders
OMG THAT WAS ME ON MY HUNTER F.58 WHO GOT TEAMKILLED BY THE A10 :D
I’m a big fan of putting as much AP-I in the 20mm as I can.
I use the gun pod on the f5e, it goes brt and things just die, its pretty nice 👌
Can you play the Ariete at 9.3? Love that plane. Quite fun to dodge R60's and AIM9-L
I’m trying to get better with the F-5E every time I turn a quarter of the way in this jet I black out so fast. What should I do?
Me when I Bucket we fall
this thing is damn good. i carry the 30 mil gunpod just because it can, and 2 agm's for blind frogfoots or the bot harriers.
Yall should try it. just fly from your right base towards the enemy airfield and you can headon lock at least 2 ppl
Tbh 20s bit OS'ing every time is something i'm strating to really like, it feels like the damage models are starting to actually matter, and truthfully it's not like a single 20mm burst is gonna OS it's target IRL either, heck 20s not being reliable enough is the whole idea behind somenations opting for the 30s :/
that 7k feels like PvE
Somehow I saw your video seconds after release and I was wondering if you look at the comments in the first 20 mins or you wait for people to have the time to watch the video
I just started playing War Thunder and am currently on the F4 in rank 2 and p400 and do not know which route to take any advice on whether i should take the f14 or f16, I'm aware I would also get the f5e if I do go towards the f16 route so I'm not sure because of the iconic tomcat.
F14 is good but not that great, the entire line (rank 7) are missile buses so yeah the f16 is the better option
You should try climbing at 20 degrees in the F5E. If you do, most of the time you end up above everyone else, and from there you can clean house pretty well. Since it's 10.7 you also don't have to worry much about pulse dopler SARHs or much of any radar missiles beyond the occasional R3Rs.
F-4E reaching 11K with a 50 degree angle: 👁️👄👁️
would not recommend unless you get a down tier, those f4e with sparrows will bully you at high altitudes. and for some reason all the 11.3 games have america on both teams so you will be fighting phantoms (or worse, looking at you f14a at 11.7).
@@nicks1221 I dont stay at high altitude and countering sparrows and dodging fights up there is easy. From there I go down and drop in behind enemies I know are flareless or not paying attention and they will get a 9J up their ass. I do this strat every game and I never die up top. and almost never run into F4Es. Anything you pass up there you just fly straight and they will either ignore you, or bleed all of their speed trying to turn.
@@nicks1221 i do it all the time and the only active fox1 threat up there are r3r from mig21 that prey on clueless folk. maybe if you climb towards the enemy climbing path you'd get fucked by them, but you're pretty much safe against anything that you can't see if you climb to your team climbpath
Every F-5 gansta 'til a J35 shows up. ;)
I pretty much always bring max since whenever I land I always end up with only 2 minutes left.
You gotta use armoured targets for the F-5. Full incendiary belt no HE.
The mach cone made me use cockpit view a lot more, could it be snail's plan to get people back into sim?
I’m so close to just using ULQ. There’s no reason not to anymore. You get loads of advantage in ground - and it get rid of that stupid mach cone
Give us Canbruh game play next. So many Doritos in this round.
The HE just feels like it lights things on fire better which is fine i guess.
Hey joob I have an idea for a future video
YOU should play the A6M2-N as it is the funny hydroplane
Ada indonesia cuy (nice decal btw, where can i get it?)
F-5E is the only plane i had a positive K/D while grinding modifications. Insanely strong at 10.7 and a lot of fun
Feel like you haven't played the F8e, have a 5 or 6 kd in that near bone stock in 10 matches
@@saturnascension Yeah F-8E is better IMO
Classic A-10 flaring bullets
Can you try to play the Mystere IVA? It’s kinda pain but it’s able to turn fight a Sabre. But it shits it’s speed
I agree!
I use armor target and I see good preference
8:00 LIL UZI is the 🐐 of Philly rap
You see a lot of Kfir, Milan and premium jets bombing and dieing \ running to enemy base because all of them are bots. Bot is huge in the game and will actually kill it in the long run if not addressed. For ARB at that BR, there are 3 to 6 bots every match PER TEAM.
Indeed. It's even worse in naval. Either Gaijin pulls their head out of their asses and starts a crusade against bots, however difficult it may be, or the game will suffer for it...
i love bots cause they boost my K/D lol
@@hydrovacattack6269 They boost your K\D at the price of economy. Don't know what you do with your K/D honestly, and you also know that they are not players so you cannot even feel good about it.
@@aldocarulli3054still gives the same amount of rp and sl
@@OzzyTheWild It doesn't matter, it destroys the economy.
Before we had RP and SLs for passive actions, being alive on point, near enemies, landing and taking off without time limiters.
The rewards of kills\assists\captures are now CAPPED as well. The Medals gave more points, all of those got lowered substantially because (or with the excuse) of botting.
The game is balanced on statistics, and 300.000 bots every day do a huge dent on the statistics of the game.
And we don't even talk about the "feeling" side of things, when you pop out a 500% RP\SL boostersd and you spawn only to see that half your team is a bot 2S38 staying in base waiting to lock on the first helicopter\plane that pops out (Just to get bombed and killed because high tier CAS is done from way more than only 2.5km)
For the same action, now you are getting extremly less compared to what it was, because (or with the excuse) of botting. But hey, as long as you got your dopamine because you see a "Target Destroyed" against a macro that needs to go from point a to point B and press space.
I have always thought the high tier U.S. HE rounds have been dogwater, so I stay away from them as much as possible.
I was using the universal belts (2x API, 1X HE) with the F-5E and it felt NUCLEAR! Things were just melting in front of me.
I’m glad they buffed the us 20 mm guns the f5c used to have to dump the entire mag into a plane to even get a crit
I remember when they first added the F5E and it was a beast. It basically wouldn't die until the pilot was killed, it could beat any plane in a dog fight, and it was sublime in a ground attack capacity
Pretty the same now
There are no opps for it till 11.3+’s sarh spammers
my memories of getting the F-5 twins is their cannons were dogwater (it was still red skies update). it was still insane even if i don't know about the 0.9 mach trick
gg
could you play the sabre with the 20mm?
Cool video.
1:03 inspirational words. "fuck it we ball and ball we fuck it." will go down in history along with Socrates
Had my best air rb game ever yesterday in the f5e, 9 players kills, 6 of those kills were when i was the last one left... It wont surprise anyone to know that i did still lose that game because I ran out of fuel dogfighting the last 2 enemies. Heartbreaker
I almost exclusively play the F-5E since it got the 10.7 downtier. I have at least 4 days of in game time play in it. Here lately there's been a good amount of downtiers to 9.7-10.3. Some occasional 11.3's with very rare full uptiers, but you will occasionally see F-14's on your team. I find the cannons to be kinda reliable. I've definitely noticed that they do actually 1 shot more than they used to, but with that said, they're still far more reliable fire starters. Plenty of times people will steal a kill from me because the cannons just didn't bop hard enough. I use universal belt for more ap rounds, as real shatter is unreliable, to say the least.
My strat for this jet is to go up to just below contrail height with my radar off (I don't usually use it unless I'm looking for the last guy) for a bit of extra stealth, and dive in on unsuspecting jets. It's an amazing dogfighter as well with great low speed handling, just don't be slow around a lot of people because you won't get speed back fast.
TLDR: I really like this jet.
Cannons reliable very
Gsh23L: One shots you and even if it doesn't you go down in 10 seconds
Colt Mk11: One shots you 100%
ADEN: removes your wings
MG151: still best gun
AN-M: better damage per hit than most stuff lol.
also do the climb to below contrail, but instead of pouncing down i look for enemy contrails and try to get behind them as they're definitely jousting my team' contrails too. easy kills most of the time, and when they're not i've saved a teammate and forced a high-priority target down to the deck
I barely understand props after 3 years. I simply don't have a clue on jet combat and all my kills are luck. Any general tips from you all would be great.
And do you like the block 10 netz or mig-29 better
"why are so many people bombing in kfirs?" Cause even with a full bombload that thing is fast enough to nearly gaurentee that you are 1st to the bases, so consistent points for grinding.
pink tape is the only thing i’ve been listening to while getting shafted with stock jets. lil uzi vert makes it a tad more tolerable
yoo indonesian air force skin let's gooo.
also yeah, the guns on F-5 are weird to aim like to the point i can barely score hits on targets flying straight and and can only hit if i'm doing leading shots. they are definitely an upgrade to when i first use F-5 tho, the guns used to be literal peashooter and you'd never get any instant kills with it. you used to have to wait for the enemy to crash from aerodynamic faliure
Yes it is!
thats the indonesia f-5 btw
Dat Indonesian Air Force camouflage tho
the onoly reason i watch video is that livery that he use
M1A1, A7E, F5E, main 10.7 lineup
aa, light tank your choice 11
W for being a lil uzi fan
This plane used to require a lot of stealth to play against tomcats and mig 23's. Now it just clubbs everything it gets it's grasp on
I love the F-5E till they increased the rep cost. Idk what the rep cost now tho
U used to hate it at 11.0 before i got smacked at top tier now its such a good jet deacent missiles for br
fav old uzi snippet?
Yesterday I uploaded a video of mine and when I rewatched it I had similar vibes to you (but worse in the game)
wait there TNI AU F5-E skin in Gaijin store?
those 5 people that disliked, what they doin
Can’t wait to get my 10.7 sea harrier
Love 10.7 BR range, shit gets wacky at 11.0
The poor little premium kids were getting annihilated on their little Su-25s, A-10s and A-6s...so good, merciful Gayjin nerfed the missiles resistance to flares.
That didn't work, so they nerfed the missiles range.
That didn't work, because guns still existed. So they nerfed gun ballistics.
That also didn't work, so they nerfed gun damage.
Which also didn't work. Next step is making guns susceptible to flares...
I feel like its great at 10.7 but not over powered at all. Just enjoying it right now.
It is overpowered if I don’t get 2-3 kills on a game I’ve had a bad time this thing out turns 90 percent of planes and keeps energy better than anything at this BR has good enough missiles and a great cannon it’s a premium slammer
"Why are so many people bombing in Kfirs?" Those are bots. Unfortunately.
5:33 you were with my friend in game lol he is that hunter
Its the Best plane at 10.7. i have no premium ACC, but that plane allows me to farm Silver lions with no problem. Averaging 2 to 3 Kills for each game