The Landcruiser 300 series is sold in the USA in 2023 under these names Sequoia, Tundra and LX 600 which are all built on the same 300 series chassis. Only difference is that only the LX 600 is AWD/ full time 4WD, which nobody living anywhere in the USA actually needs and it absolutely kills your mpg which is why it’s gone, for 5 yrs now everybody bitched about the Landcruiser 13 mpg combined due to its full time 4WD.
@@wrzl1675 People who say the Land Cruiser is the same as any of the other Toyota-built trucks have no idea what they are talking about. The fact you call it a "Landcruiser" further displays your ignorance here. Also, it's asinine to declare what everybody living anywhere in a huge country needs to be driving. Grow up and develop some humility.
@@wrzl1675 The only 300-series that is sold in the US is the LX600. Just because the Tundra and the Sequoia share the same basic platform does not make them a 300-series. The 300-series LC/LX is superior to their American cousin in every way.
Great review. I looked at the dimensions and they’re pretty close to my BMW 5 series (except height) but you point out that this is actually a little bigger inside. It’s fast enough. The engine is pretty much the same as the one in the top of the line Lexus RX but now it’s in a vehicle with a lower price point. To me, luxury is not how buttons work or feel but rather in the opulence of the interior. The RX is luxurious and the Crown is not. In fact, if I expected to see luxury, the Crown’s spartan minimalist functionality would be a disappointment. I showed the car to my wife and she immediately turned her nose up because, to her, it looked like some kind of juvenile muscle car especially with the two tone paint scheme. It didn’t strike me that way. The two tone paint scheme wasn’t my cup of tea but, if my wife thinks it looks like a muscle car, then maybe it is my cup of tea afterall.😂
Toyota did drop the ball on the interior. Interior on this car should have looked much more expensive than it does. I’m not saying the interior is bad but it doesn’t look like a crown or flagship interior.
210 and 220 series Crown interiors are absolutely superior to this, they are also RWD and many have features this Crown doesn't. Just Toyota going backwards and trying to keep profits high in these more difficult times.
I agree MM the interior really needs the two tone colour more than the exterior. I believe the Estate Crown would have received more excitement than the sedan
I believe the same max hybrid powertrain will be the high output option for the upcoming Grand Highlander. I'll be interested in how that drives versus Honda's new V6 Pilot which comes equipped with a smooth shifting 10 speed auto. The Toyota with the max hybrid will have quicker acceleration but will it be as satisfying to drive as the V6 Pilot?
You're not the only one who immediately thought of this. Also, when the trunk release is hit, it does not pop up. That's really going to piss Betty off when she comes out of the greenhouse with a box of Geraniums and has to lift the trunk with her elbow or her knee. Of all things, that freaking metal hood stick put the brakes on my decision to buy and is making me at least consider true luxury options at that $50-60k price point.
I'm probably in the minority, but when I think of "Crown" part of me wants to add "Victoria"; so yes, to your point, I can see how folks aren't going to associate the Crown first hand as a Toyota.
MM, did your last comment perhaps hit the nail on the head, and we should actually be thinking of this as a Prius Crown rather than a true Avalon replacement? While it might pick up where the Avalon left off price wise, it's a substantially different car in nearly every way. Meanwhile, Prius sales have been falling through the floor in lieu of other Toyota hybrid offerings, and I recall repeat business has been a challenge with Prius customers. Perhaps this is a way to retain the Priati as they've aged and grown more moneyed? The interior looks like a downgrade from the Avalon to my eye, but it's undoubtedly an upgrade from the Prius. Toyota announced 4 different vehicles all named Crown in Japan, but decided we would get *this* one. There had to be a reason why...food for thought.
I drove both. The 2.5 with the CVT is noisy and whiney compared to the turbo with the 6-speed, improved hybrid drive and adaptive rear suspension. It's in a different league.
Yeah, but the seat height in the Crown is nice. A lot of people got tired of crawling out of their sedans and switched to SUV's. The Crown is the only crossover-ish option out there.
I want to like this “car” but I don’t. To me it reminds me of the short lived Honda Accord Crosstour. Honda pulled the plug on it after only a few years because nobody bought it since in a lot of buyers minds it was neither a sedan nor a CUV. I think Toyota is going to find the same results with this vehicle.
Pet peeve: I really wish auto manufacturers would stop this silly trend of spelling out the model names on the rear like we’re dyslexic…C R O W N, it’s not special anymore.
The majority of Australians don't actually live that rurally haha, there absolutely are many rural Australians and more people living truly 'ruraly' compared to other countries but arguably the majority of Australians live close to the coast, don't do more than 36km a day, can charge at home in garage and don't live more than 100km from a major CBD and nor do all Australians do roadtrips. Hybrids are great and there is no excuse anymore for manufacturers not to be selling them however, the notion that 'EVs [due to range/charging] cannot yet support Australians' isn't really true, for at least the majority.
@@jay-uo2bi yes you have a good take on this , today where's is the electricity coming from to charge in the garages? Mostly not solar , 4 fast charging bots in 20 KLM radius pretty sh!thouse , be realistic wind solar ain't gonna Power much nuclear energy is option, hydrogen transport, , the War in Ukraine ain't doing anything to contribute to global warming
Hood prop rod on a $50k car?, Toyota lost me right there, no sale possibility just for that alone as that type of thing just screams 'there's cost-cutting measure throughout this automobile'.
I’ve been saying that, so I think those things going to be discontinued and two years nobody wants this certainly people that used to own. Avalon are not going to buy this.
EV mandates have nothing to do with life being left in the internal combustion engine. There's better scale to be had with every EV manufacturer making EVs. EV mandates help to achieve this. By the standards of a car enthusiast, I'm a bit more of a radical environmentalist than most in the community. I mean, I know you mention it in each video where you cover an EV, you don't see the need for EV mandates, and that government has no place mandating them. I'm not really sure what other mechanism there is to make the automotive industry shift to EVs aside from government mandates.
I'm stereotyping here, but I just can't get over how douchey bmws look. And most their owners fit that look. Driving a vehicle that's barely premium, but acting like they're in a Bentley.
@@robarmstrong5404 That's a fair stereotype, but that's not all of us BMW owners. I'm middle aged, middle class, family man, and a union Journeyman. I also always use my turn signals and drive defensively. ;)
@@seiph80 Hang in there. Mine was produced in week 38. I should get it any day now as it was just dropped off at the nearest port from Mexico yesterday.
Nope, nope, nope! $53K for this? A prop rod? No opening sunroof? Manual steering column adjustment? Interior that looks a step up from a Camry? 2-way rather than 4 way lumbar for the drivers seat? It’s overpriced like the 21 Venza Limited I own. 38-43K is more appropriate IMO.
Or an ev6 ( basically the same size) with all of the ev power that would smoke even the platinum hybrid max Honestly this car is too expensive and making any cheaper would chew into market of the prius which makes so much more sense than this Heck even the venza and rav4 are way better deal than this.
So ugly, so overpriced and poor MPG's for a "hybrid". PHEV as a minimum. Prop rod made my eyes roll, but the 70 year old that buys these will never open the hood to see the cost cutting.
Bravo, non-CVT hybrid is a step in the right direction of driver feel. A wet clutch is a very interesting approach too.
Hybrid makes more sense than an EV imo
Toyota: "we will stop making the Land Cruiser for the US market. But fear not, we will compensate you Americans with this Crown."
The Landcruiser 300 series is sold in the USA in 2023 under these names Sequoia, Tundra and LX 600 which are all built on the same 300 series chassis. Only difference is that only the LX 600 is AWD/ full time 4WD, which nobody living anywhere in the USA actually needs and it absolutely kills your mpg which is why it’s gone, for 5 yrs now everybody bitched about the Landcruiser 13 mpg combined due to its full time 4WD.
@@wrzl1675 People who say the Land Cruiser is the same as any of the other Toyota-built trucks have no idea what they are talking about. The fact you call it a "Landcruiser" further displays your ignorance here. Also, it's asinine to declare what everybody living anywhere in a huge country needs to be driving. Grow up and develop some humility.
@@wrzl1675 The only 300-series that is sold in the US is the LX600. Just because the Tundra and the Sequoia share the same basic platform does not make them a 300-series. The 300-series LC/LX is superior to their American cousin in every way.
Was very interested in this review because I think this car may indicate Toyotas future direction for most cars.
This kind of future for toyota means rip high sales
Even exotic/hyper cars are going hybrid
It weighs about 500 lbs more than the 1991 Grand Marquis I once owned . I hope it is just as comfortable. 😁
Awesome, i like this car! But it needs a gloss black spoiler on the trunk lid! 😊
Great review. I looked at the dimensions and they’re pretty close to my BMW 5 series (except height) but you point out that this is actually a little bigger inside. It’s fast enough. The engine is pretty much the same as the one in the top of the line Lexus RX but now it’s in a vehicle with a lower price point. To me, luxury is not how buttons work or feel but rather in the opulence of the interior. The RX is luxurious and the Crown is not. In fact, if I expected to see luxury, the Crown’s spartan minimalist functionality would be a disappointment. I showed the car to my wife and she immediately turned her nose up because, to her, it looked like some kind of juvenile muscle car especially with the two tone paint scheme. It didn’t strike me that way. The two tone paint scheme wasn’t my cup of tea but, if my wife thinks it looks like a muscle car, then maybe it is my cup of tea afterall.😂
Toyota did drop the ball on the interior. Interior on this car should have looked much more expensive than it does. I’m not saying the interior is bad but it doesn’t look like a crown or flagship interior.
yeah they are trying too hard to keep it "not a Lexus."
I'm also not a fan of the low headspace, especially for backseat passengers.
210 and 220 series Crown interiors are absolutely superior to this, they are also RWD and many have features this Crown doesn't. Just Toyota going backwards and trying to keep profits high in these more difficult times.
I agree MM the interior really needs the two tone colour more than the exterior. I believe the Estate Crown would have received more excitement than the sedan
best review ever
I believe the same max hybrid powertrain will be the high output option for the upcoming Grand Highlander. I'll be interested in how that drives versus Honda's new V6 Pilot which comes equipped with a smooth shifting 10 speed auto. The Toyota with the max hybrid will have quicker acceleration but will it be as satisfying to drive as the V6 Pilot?
Hey man, thanks for the video, but you said incorrect data about mpg! 42-41mpg is on Regular Hybrid with 2.5, but this Max has lower mpg 29-31
Great points!! Great review!!
Accprding to some leaks the actual sedan of 16th is coming stateside to
Wow I love this video
two ton interior would be great in this vehicle and some ambient lighting.
NICE CAR
A Japanese hybrid with a sunroof!! 👍
A prop-rod in a $40K - $52 car, fine in a low-rent Corolla but not in a car that is in this price bracket,
You're not the only one who immediately thought of this. Also, when the trunk release is hit, it does not pop up. That's really going to piss Betty off when she comes out of the greenhouse with a box of Geraniums and has to lift the trunk with her elbow or her knee. Of all things, that freaking metal hood stick put the brakes on my decision to buy and is making me at least consider true luxury options at that $50-60k price point.
12:22 min - great point Motoman, thank you. 🙂👌
This should’ve just been named The Camry Cross😭.
They should only sell these in the 2 tone paint jobs. Really makes them stand out.
We need the crossover and SUV versions too pls
My my we've come full circle, the Avalon replaced the Crown in my part of the world in the early 90s, & Now the Crown is back to replace the Avalon.
Maybe it's just me, but the cabin seems smaller than I would've expected
I soooo agree with your last point
I'm probably in the minority, but when I think of "Crown" part of me wants to add "Victoria"; so yes, to your point, I can see how folks aren't going to associate the Crown first hand as a Toyota.
Funny, my mind went to Crown Vic as well...lol
MM, did your last comment perhaps hit the nail on the head, and we should actually be thinking of this as a Prius Crown rather than a true Avalon replacement? While it might pick up where the Avalon left off price wise, it's a substantially different car in nearly every way. Meanwhile, Prius sales have been falling through the floor in lieu of other Toyota hybrid offerings, and I recall repeat business has been a challenge with Prius customers. Perhaps this is a way to retain the Priati as they've aged and grown more moneyed? The interior looks like a downgrade from the Avalon to my eye, but it's undoubtedly an upgrade from the Prius.
Toyota announced 4 different vehicles all named Crown in Japan, but decided we would get *this* one. There had to be a reason why...food for thought.
We'll have to come back to this discussion in December . . . we'll know more then.
How are the hybrid crown mpg numbers not noticeably better than the rav4 hybrid? The hyundai large cars are pushing 50+mpg
prop rod for 50K??
its gonna be a flop
Is Lexus getting their hands on this?
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Maybe they should go to vist KIA
My wish list for the Crown was to have gotten the sedan and not the sedanUV.
But its whatever, I’m not yet the target buyer for something like this.
Intrigued to see those in person.
We’re supposed to be getting the sedan version. Idk if its gonna come as The Lexus GS or a Toyota Crown
30mpg? Come on, may as well get the Lexus ES300h ultra luxury for basically the same price.
Best NEW Luxury Sedan, skip the turbo !
Not even close
I drove both. The 2.5 with the CVT is noisy and whiney compared to the turbo with the 6-speed, improved hybrid drive and adaptive rear suspension. It's in a different league.
Grandma mover
its overpriced!!!
you are being too generous !!
For $53k..get an ES for a few grand more…
For 12K less I’d get a Camry XSE v6
I drove an ES300h a few weeks ago. The interior was disappointing for the price.
@@inomad base trim or fully loaded?
Yeah, but the seat height in the Crown is nice. A lot of people got tired of crawling out of their sedans and switched to SUV's. The Crown is the only crossover-ish option out there.
This car 🚗 should do 0-60 in under 5 secs!!!
Toyota needs to have at least one trim that is very efficient. Hybrids cars with sub 40mpg is a joke in 2022
I want to like this “car” but I don’t. To me it reminds me of the short lived Honda Accord Crosstour. Honda pulled the plug on it after only a few years because nobody bought it since in a lot of buyers minds it was neither a sedan nor a CUV. I think Toyota is going to find the same results with this vehicle.
Pet peeve: I really wish auto manufacturers would stop this silly trend of spelling out the model names on the rear like we’re dyslexic…C R O W N, it’s not special anymore.
Have to agree.
For about 6 grand over the cost for a platinum, you could get a base Porsche Macan.
Hybrid hybrid, keep up the good job Toyota , EV are not realistic living in a country like Australian suburb , or most Countries
The majority of Australians don't actually live that rurally haha, there absolutely are many rural Australians and more people living truly 'ruraly' compared to other countries but arguably the majority of Australians live close to the coast, don't do more than 36km a day, can charge at home in garage and don't live more than 100km from a major CBD and nor do all Australians do roadtrips. Hybrids are great and there is no excuse anymore for manufacturers not to be selling them however, the notion that 'EVs [due to range/charging] cannot yet support Australians' isn't really true, for at least the majority.
@@jay-uo2bi yes you have a good take on this , today where's is the electricity coming from to charge in the garages? Mostly not solar , 4 fast charging bots in 20 KLM radius pretty sh!thouse , be realistic wind solar ain't gonna Power much nuclear energy is option, hydrogen transport, , the War in Ukraine ain't doing anything to contribute to global warming
Don't know how to adjust a headrest?
Hood prop rod on a $50k car?, Toyota lost me right there, no sale possibility just for that alone as that type of thing just screams 'there's cost-cutting measure throughout this automobile'.
Seems like Toyota has been using prop rods in everything lately. I still have hood struts in my older Camry.
The struts go bad after 3 years anyway
Not for 54k. Not happening.
Should have been a lift back imo.
I’ve been saying that, so I think those things going to be discontinued and two years nobody wants this certainly people that used to own. Avalon are not going to buy this.
Sunroof layout is laughable.
It’ll bomb, Americans don’t want lifted sedans. Yoda or not.
EV mandates have nothing to do with life being left in the internal combustion engine. There's better scale to be had with every EV manufacturer making EVs. EV mandates help to achieve this.
By the standards of a car enthusiast, I'm a bit more of a radical environmentalist than most in the community.
I mean, I know you mention it in each video where you cover an EV, you don't see the need for EV mandates, and that government has no place mandating them. I'm not really sure what other mechanism there is to make the automotive industry shift to EVs aside from government mandates.
For about $7K less (fully loaded, after tax credits), I still prefer the 2023 BMW 330e xDrive that I ordered and should get in a few weeks.
My 5 series at this typing still shows "order received"; production still slated for week 50 (i.e., sometime in December).
I'm stereotyping here, but I just can't get over how douchey bmws look. And most their owners fit that look. Driving a vehicle that's barely premium, but acting like they're in a Bentley.
@@robarmstrong5404
That's a fair stereotype, but that's not all of us BMW owners.
I'm middle aged, middle class, family man, and a union Journeyman.
I also always use my turn signals and drive defensively. ;)
@@seiph80
Hang in there. Mine was produced in week 38. I should get it any day now as it was just dropped off at the nearest port from Mexico yesterday.
@@RobertLeBlancPhoto How exciting! What color did you order yours in?
Nope, nope, nope! $53K for this? A prop rod? No opening sunroof? Manual steering column adjustment? Interior that looks a step up from a Camry? 2-way rather than 4 way lumbar for the drivers seat? It’s overpriced like the 21 Venza Limited I own. 38-43K is more appropriate IMO.
Why would you buy this when a Camry Hybrid is $12-15k cheaper?
Or an ev6 ( basically the same size) with all of the ev power that would smoke even the platinum hybrid max
Honestly this car is too expensive and making any cheaper would chew into market of the prius which makes so much more sense than this
Heck even the venza and rav4 are way better deal than this.
Fuel economy disappointing for a hybrid. 😞
I still don't understand the logic behind Toyota's decision to use this as the replacement for the Avalon. 🤔
Makes no sense. It looks like a Subaru outback legacy from 2000.
At over 4000lb, should have made it a wagon.
The wagon made its debut at the same time at Toyota HQ. The question is whether we get it over here.
Boy, that thing is ugly front and rear. Not much of a flagship vehicle for Toyota.
A car that starts at $40,000 and doesn't even offer a leather seat? Toyota is famous for the good quality of its cars but terrible in refinement.
Toyota is just getting skimpier and skimpier
So ugly, so overpriced and poor MPG's for a "hybrid". PHEV as a minimum. Prop rod made my eyes roll, but the 70 year old that buys these will never open the hood to see the cost cutting.
That's not a Crown, they've sold out the Crown heritage with this tarted up Venza / Camry freak.
It's ugly.
The Emperor has no clothes but at least he has a Crown. 🚗🌬️💤🥱